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On January 24 2012 13:27 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:04 Whatson wrote:
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea) Hi, i run marketing for Liquid`. That means its my job to make sure they look good all the time - even I think this prediction is crazy. The nature of TL though is that we have a lot of writers with a lot of different opinions. Remember when Wax made bad predictions last season and then got smashed for it publicly? Feel free to do that if TH is wrong. At the end of the day, it's just video games! No BS: It really depends how seriously MVP takes the match but id say it ranges from 35-45% for Liquid. MVP could pull out DRG really early, or they could just send practice partners, or it could be half of coL. FWIW I really hate these team partnerships combined in team leagues.
When did I ever make bad predictions? I'm kinda awesome.
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On January 24 2012 13:27 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:04 Whatson wrote:
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea) Hi, i run marketing for Liquid`. That means its my job to make sure they look good all the time - even I think this prediction is crazy. The nature of TL though is that we have a lot of writers with a lot of different opinions. Remember when Wax made bad predictions last season and then got smashed for it publicly? Feel free to do that if TH is wrong. At the end of the day, it's just video games! No BS: It really depends how seriously MVP takes the match but id say it ranges from 35-45% for Liquid. MVP could pull out DRG really early, or they could just send practice partners, or it could be half of coL. FWIW I really hate these team partnerships combined in team leagues.
Zenio can definitely beat DRG and Genius, but the MvP Terrans will prove too much of a problem for him.
Also, TH didn't write that prediction ^^
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On January 24 2012 13:30 The Final Boss wrote:
Zenio can definitely beat DRG and Genius, but the MvP Terrans will prove too much of a problem for him.
Also, TH didn't write that prediction ^^
No man, Zenio has little chance against DRG.
The most recent team event was KSL MVP vs Startale
and DRG literally wiped the floor with the entire startale team.
He kicked Curious's butt so hard...
and Curious's Zvz is no slouch
not to mention Curious is miles above Zenio in terms of ELO
The only person I can see taking out DRG is Hero...
poor Hero is slightly inconsistent though...
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On January 24 2012 13:37 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:30 The Final Boss wrote:
Zenio can definitely beat DRG and Genius, but the MvP Terrans will prove too much of a problem for him.
Also, TH didn't write that prediction ^^ No man, Zenio has little chance against DRG. The most recent team event was KSL MVP vs Startale and DRG literally wiped the floor with the entire startale team. He kicked Curious's butt so hard... and Curious's Zvz is no slouch not to mention Curious is miles above Zenio in terms of ELO The only person I can see taking out DRG is Hero... poor Hero is slightly inconsistent though...
Zenio has a 75.00% win rate in ZvZ. If you don't include NesTea, he's got a 90.00% win rate (18-2). First off it's ZvZ, so it's already kind of crazy as far as who wins. Secondly, it's a Bo1. Zenio definitely could beat DRG in a ZvZ Bo1.
EDIT: Also, I know that everybody talks about how DRG's ZvP is his weakness, which I definitely used to see, but now that he's got a 70% win rate against the best Koreans and--as you said--after beating PartinG and Squirtle in the KSL, can we finally drop this nonsense that DRG is "BAD" at ZvP? He currently holds the third highest ELO in the match-up...Like come on, what does the guy have to do to be "good" at ZvP?
HerO doesn't even have a positive win rate in PvZ, how on earth do you expect him to beat a monster like DRG? I know stats aren't everything, but I think you really need to reconsider your perception of Zenio, HerO, and DRG.
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On January 24 2012 13:20 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 12:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
The fact that you think Artist can handle Symbol and Polt is laughable to me. In his last 40 TvZ's he's lost 4 games. And the people he's played against includes DIMAGA, Lucky, sLivko and Sheth. Lucky's ZvT is better than Symbol's and any of the other ZvTs on TSL for that matter. The fact that you can somehow blow that off as not being a big deal is laughable to me. And Polt is pretty inconsistent in TvT. His style is pretty cheesy so I think that Artist definitely could beat him. I'd still favor Polt in that match-up, but I wouldn't say that there is no way that Artist could handle Polt. EDIT: Also RevivaL only has 6 first place finishes in Playhem Daily, where as Artist has 15... just sayin' ^^
Lucky's ZvT is not that good. I don't know why you insist on saying that. It's actually pretty mediocre. Just because he gave MvP a good run in Ro32 doesn't mean he's magically good at the matchup these days. Virus did the same thing against Nestea and...oh wait, he's still mediocre in TvZ.
Polt cheesy in TvT? You must be talking about some other player.
On January 24 2012 13:30 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:27 Kennigit wrote:On January 24 2012 13:04 Whatson wrote:
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea) Hi, i run marketing for Liquid`. That means its my job to make sure they look good all the time - even I think this prediction is crazy. The nature of TL though is that we have a lot of writers with a lot of different opinions. Remember when Wax made bad predictions last season and then got smashed for it publicly? Feel free to do that if TH is wrong. At the end of the day, it's just video games! No BS: It really depends how seriously MVP takes the match but id say it ranges from 35-45% for Liquid. MVP could pull out DRG really early, or they could just send practice partners, or it could be half of coL. FWIW I really hate these team partnerships combined in team leagues. Zenio can definitely beat DRG and Genius, but the MvP Terrans will prove too much of a problem for him. Also, TH didn't write that prediction ^^
Zenio cannot win a ZvP against any decent Korean Protoss. Check his TLPD for proof. He's as bad in ZvP as JYP is in PvT.
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On January 24 2012 13:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:20 The Final Boss wrote:On January 24 2012 12:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
The fact that you think Artist can handle Symbol and Polt is laughable to me. In his last 40 TvZ's he's lost 4 games. And the people he's played against includes DIMAGA, Lucky, sLivko and Sheth. Lucky's ZvT is better than Symbol's and any of the other ZvTs on TSL for that matter. The fact that you can somehow blow that off as not being a big deal is laughable to me. And Polt is pretty inconsistent in TvT. His style is pretty cheesy so I think that Artist definitely could beat him. I'd still favor Polt in that match-up, but I wouldn't say that there is no way that Artist could handle Polt. EDIT: Also RevivaL only has 6 first place finishes in Playhem Daily, where as Artist has 15... just sayin' ^^ Lucky's ZvT is not that good. I don't know why you insist on saying that. It's actually pretty mediocre. Polt cheesy in TVT LMFAO. Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:30 The Final Boss wrote:On January 24 2012 13:27 Kennigit wrote:On January 24 2012 13:04 Whatson wrote:
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea) Hi, i run marketing for Liquid`. That means its my job to make sure they look good all the time - even I think this prediction is crazy. The nature of TL though is that we have a lot of writers with a lot of different opinions. Remember when Wax made bad predictions last season and then got smashed for it publicly? Feel free to do that if TH is wrong. At the end of the day, it's just video games! No BS: It really depends how seriously MVP takes the match but id say it ranges from 35-45% for Liquid. MVP could pull out DRG really early, or they could just send practice partners, or it could be half of coL. FWIW I really hate these team partnerships combined in team leagues. Zenio can definitely beat DRG and Genius, but the MvP Terrans will prove too much of a problem for him. Also, TH didn't write that prediction ^^ Zenio cannot win a ZvP against any decent Korean Protoss. Check his TLPD for proof. He's as bad in ZvP as JYP is in PvT.
A lot of those matches are old, though he does have a bad record. Last thing I saw of Zenio was him crushing NaNiwa at IEM, though. Maybe you missed that, but NaNiwa is actually pretty damn good at PvZ (even though he claims it's his "weakest" match-up, his play at MLG Prov. was really impressive and he has continued to get better and better, until he met Leenock he looked unstoppable at MLG Providence and at the Global Invitational).
And it's a well known fact that Polt's play is based around a plethora of various Ee Han Timings. There not all cheesy, but he certainly is not some "macro Terran." Especially in TvT, don't you know, Polt loves Marauders and Tank Pushes.
And as far as Lucky goes, the second Bo3 he played against Mvp was really impressive. Mvp played well and Lucky pushed him to the brink. Perhaps I'm being a bit too optimistic of his ZvT abilities, but he's good at ZvT.
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On January 24 2012 14:04 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 24 2012 13:20 The Final Boss wrote:On January 24 2012 12:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
The fact that you think Artist can handle Symbol and Polt is laughable to me. In his last 40 TvZ's he's lost 4 games. And the people he's played against includes DIMAGA, Lucky, sLivko and Sheth. Lucky's ZvT is better than Symbol's and any of the other ZvTs on TSL for that matter. The fact that you can somehow blow that off as not being a big deal is laughable to me. And Polt is pretty inconsistent in TvT. His style is pretty cheesy so I think that Artist definitely could beat him. I'd still favor Polt in that match-up, but I wouldn't say that there is no way that Artist could handle Polt. EDIT: Also RevivaL only has 6 first place finishes in Playhem Daily, where as Artist has 15... just sayin' ^^ Lucky's ZvT is not that good. I don't know why you insist on saying that. It's actually pretty mediocre. Polt cheesy in TVT LMFAO. On January 24 2012 13:30 The Final Boss wrote:On January 24 2012 13:27 Kennigit wrote:On January 24 2012 13:04 Whatson wrote:
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea) Hi, i run marketing for Liquid`. That means its my job to make sure they look good all the time - even I think this prediction is crazy. The nature of TL though is that we have a lot of writers with a lot of different opinions. Remember when Wax made bad predictions last season and then got smashed for it publicly? Feel free to do that if TH is wrong. At the end of the day, it's just video games! No BS: It really depends how seriously MVP takes the match but id say it ranges from 35-45% for Liquid. MVP could pull out DRG really early, or they could just send practice partners, or it could be half of coL. FWIW I really hate these team partnerships combined in team leagues. Zenio can definitely beat DRG and Genius, but the MvP Terrans will prove too much of a problem for him. Also, TH didn't write that prediction ^^ Zenio cannot win a ZvP against any decent Korean Protoss. Check his TLPD for proof. He's as bad in ZvP as JYP is in PvT. A lot of those matches are old, though he does have a bad record. Last thing I saw of Zenio was him crushing NaNiwa at IEM, though. Maybe you missed that, but NaNiwa is actually pretty damn good at PvZ (even though he claims it's his "weakest" match-up, his play at MLG Prov. was really impressive and he has continued to get better and better, until he met Leenock he looked unstoppable at MLG Providence and at the Global Invitational). And it's a well known fact that Polt's play is based around a plethora of various Ee Han Timings. There not all cheesy, but he certainly is not some "macro Terran." Especially in TvT, don't you know, Polt loves Marauders and Tank Pushes. And as far as Lucky goes, the second Bo3 he played against Mvp was really impressive. Mvp played well and Lucky pushed him to the brink. Perhaps I'm being a bit too optimistic of his ZvT abilities, but he's good at ZvT.
Zenio is actually really bad at ZvP. He was bad at it when the metagame heavily favored zerg players (I remember one particularly horrific game against HongUnPrime) and he's bad at it now. He won his ZvP games at IEM simply because he was better than those players, and he didn't look particularly look good at it either. Subpar control, floating money all the time, bizarre inefficient army compositions...
Naniwa is not good at PvZ at all. He beat a slumping Nestea and a DRG who just threw up before the match, then Leenock rocked him and everyone figured him out. He sticks to the same stubborn builds and has zero confidence in the matchup, so he does massive 2 base pushes without much planning into the late game. Plus he got mindgamed so badly by Zenio at IEM he had no chance at winning even if his builds all clicked.
No, that is a well-known myth circulated by people who think he plays like he did in January. He likes to use timing pushes in early-game TvZ and TvP, but he mostly uses his knowledge of timings for defense in TvT. He prefers marine/tank TvT unless he sees mech, then he uses heavy marauder compositions and tries to control the map for flanking maneuvers. If your cutoff point for a macro player is "a playstyle based around timings" then feel free to discount MvP, MMA, sC, MC, and every other competent Korean progamer. And yes Polt certainly counts as a macro Terran: watch him outmacro Hero badly in the NASL showmatch for starters.
That is not what ee han timing means.
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Didn't even mention DeMusliM for team EG. I think he can take a game or two off some of the early oGs players.
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On January 24 2012 13:20 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 12:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
The fact that you think Artist can handle Symbol and Polt is laughable to me. In his last 40 TvZ's he's lost 4 games. And the people he's played against includes DIMAGA, Lucky, sLivko and Sheth. Lucky's ZvT is better than Symbol's and any of the other ZvTs on TSL for that matter. The fact that you can somehow blow that off as not being a big deal is laughable to me. And Polt is pretty inconsistent in TvT. His style is pretty cheesy so I think that Artist definitely could beat him. I'd still favor Polt in that match-up, but I wouldn't say that there is no way that Artist could handle Polt. EDIT: Also RevivaL only has 6 first place finishes in Playhem Daily, where as Artist has 15... just sayin' ^^
Lucky's ZvT better than Symbols? Ok, sure.
Lucky wouldn't even be on the map for ZvT if he didn't abuse Roach timings against Slayers Terran's hellion builds at IPL.
You want to talk ZvT? Polt's recent wins are over NesTea, Leenock, and LosirA, players that are miles ahead of Dimaga, Lucky, sLivko, and Sheth
Polt, a GSL Champion from his TvT, is miles ahead of Artist who doesn't even have any games on record in Korea. I can't believe you'd call Polt cheesy when comparing him to a master of fine fromage like Artist.
TSL won't lose to ReIGN, and I'd bet on that too if I were you. ReIGN is a strong foreigner team, but they're nothing compared to a Korean team, especially TSL. I wouldn't even be surprised if Symbol all-killed them the way he's been playing lately.
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On January 24 2012 14:28 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:20 The Final Boss wrote:On January 24 2012 12:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
The fact that you think Artist can handle Symbol and Polt is laughable to me. In his last 40 TvZ's he's lost 4 games. And the people he's played against includes DIMAGA, Lucky, sLivko and Sheth. Lucky's ZvT is better than Symbol's and any of the other ZvTs on TSL for that matter. The fact that you can somehow blow that off as not being a big deal is laughable to me. And Polt is pretty inconsistent in TvT. His style is pretty cheesy so I think that Artist definitely could beat him. I'd still favor Polt in that match-up, but I wouldn't say that there is no way that Artist could handle Polt. EDIT: Also RevivaL only has 6 first place finishes in Playhem Daily, where as Artist has 15... just sayin' ^^ Lucky's ZvT better than Symbols? Ok, sure. Lucky wouldn't even be on the map for ZvT if he didn't abuse Roach timings against Slayers Terran's hellion builds at IPL. You want to talk ZvT? Polt's recent wins are over NesTea, Leenock, and LosirA, players that are miles ahead of Dimaga, Lucky, sLivko, and Sheth Polt, a GSL Champion from his TvT, is miles ahead of Artist who doesn't even have any games on record in Korea. I can't believe you'd call Polt cheesy when comparing him to a master of fine fromage like Artist. TSL won't lose to ReIGN, and I'd bet on that too if I were you. ReIGN is a strong foreigner team, but they're nothing compared to a Korean team, especially TSL. I wouldn't even be surprised if Symbol all-killed them the way he's been playing lately.
First off I didn't question Polt's TvZ, I wouldn't because I recognize that it's good.
I also didn't necessarily say that Artist is a straight up player in TvT either, in fact that makes the whole Bo1 scenario between the two of them even harder to predict.
And personally I don't think that TSL will lose to ReIGN, but with the recent commotion that's been going on, saying that Artist will do well against TSL Zergs is not stretching the truth at all. I never said that I would favor ReIGN over TSL. I never said that I would favor Artist over Polt. What I did say is that given the format and recent conditions it would not be completely unheard of it Artist were to pull out a crazy (yet unlikely) win.
What I did say is that Artist could pose a problem for TSL if he takes out too many of their Zergs. Artist is a ridiculously good TvZer, and is 2-0 all time against Symbol.
You're selling ReIGN too short, but perhaps I'm being a bit optimistic about certain players. One thing that I will stand behind though is that Artist is good at TvZ. His stats and performance in general speaks to that, I really don't see how you can say that he can't hold his own against TSL's Zergs, none of whom are even Code S yet. Also, I think that TSL will win, but it's going to be a lot closer than everybody is saying it will be depending on how many Zergs Artist gets to face before he gets taken down.
(I still think that Lucky is good at ZvT and that Polt's style of TvT tends to be more cheesy or at the very least more aggressive; and that a Tank Push in TvT is a form of an ee han timing, don't really see how I misused that one there??)
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coLMVP’s roster is larger by far, but despite last season's tremendous inspiration from Keen, the limited consistency of Noblesse and everyone else means they lack aces outside of their team league standby, DongRaeGu.
lol, this is because DRG is so good that the other MvP guys get overshadowed. If sC, Keen, Genius were on TL, they would be aces
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On January 24 2012 13:27 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:04 Whatson wrote:
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea) Hi, i run marketing for Liquid`. That means its my job to make sure they look good all the time - even I think this prediction is crazy. The nature of TL though is that we have a lot of writers with a lot of different opinions. Remember when Wax made bad predictions in GSL a 1 or 2 seasons ago and then had to eat humble pie?? Feel free to do that if TH is wrong. At the end of the day, it's just video games! No BS: It really depends how seriously MVP takes the match but id say it ranges from 35-45% for Liquid. MVP could pull out DRG really early, or they could just send practice partners, or it could be half of coL. FWIW I really hate these team partnerships combined in team leagues.
Ahh okay I respect that, I think I went a little overboard, and I do agree that TL is such a great website because of the variety of opinions.
And to Waxangel, TreeHugger, and any other writer I might've offended or annoyed...SORRY 
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I laugh at ppl saying Polt's TvT is inconsistent and cheesy. His engagement timing is second to none. Go watch him demolishing forgg recently for more info. Maybe MMA/mvp/someone else can exploit Polt's weakness but Artist who ? some random code B ? I know he played in MLG months ago but I dont watch enough playhems to get an idea of how boss he is (I can named 10 GSL terrans that have awesome vZ/vT though)
Inori ? Is the last time that hes revelant half a year ago? Maybe he can coinflip a PvP (I doubt TSL would field more than one toss)
Axslav? Iirc hes pretty gosu in 2v2 back in wc3 days
I dont mean to bash Reign. But those no-names have absolutely no chance against TSL's lineup.
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On January 24 2012 14:49 Arceus wrote:
I laugh at ppl saying Polt's TvT is inconsistent and cheesy. His engagement timing is second to none. Go watch him demolishing forgg recently for more info. Maybe MMA/mvp/someone else can exploit Polt's weakness but Artist who ? some random code B ? I know he played in MLG months ago but I dont watch enough playhems to get an idea of how boss he is (I can named 10 GSL terrans that have awesome vZ/vT though)
Inori ? Is the last time that hes revelant half a year ago? Maybe he can coinflip a PvP (I doubt TSL would field more than one toss)
Axslav? Iirc hes pretty gosu in 2v2 back in wc3 days
I dont mean to bash Reign. But those no-names have absolutely no chance against TSL's lineup.
It's sad how ignorant you are.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=2744&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z
He also currently holds the highest ELO vZ.
EDIT: Just for clarification, NeeL is TSL Symbol. Artist beat him in the big Playhem tourney.
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Empire prime and Qunatic mouz gonna be the matches to watch, rest of them are kinda predictable.
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On January 24 2012 13:42 The Final Boss wrote:
I think you really need to reconsider your perception of Zenio, HerO, and DRG.
Reconsider that DRG's probably the best mechanical player of starcraft 2 by a large margin and is the most awesome human being in the world?
I think not!
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On January 24 2012 14:53 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 14:49 Arceus wrote:
I laugh at ppl saying Polt's TvT is inconsistent and cheesy. His engagement timing is second to none. Go watch him demolishing forgg recently for more info. Maybe MMA/mvp/someone else can exploit Polt's weakness but Artist who ? some random code B ? I know he played in MLG months ago but I dont watch enough playhems to get an idea of how boss he is (I can named 10 GSL terrans that have awesome vZ/vT though)
Inori ? Is the last time that hes revelant half a year ago? Maybe he can coinflip a PvP (I doubt TSL would field more than one toss)
Axslav? Iirc hes pretty gosu in 2v2 back in wc3 days
I dont mean to bash Reign. But those no-names have absolutely no chance against TSL's lineup. It's sad how ignorant you are. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=2744&part=games&league=standard&vs=ZHe also currently holds the highest ELO vZ. EDIT: Just for clarification, NeeL is TSL Symbol. Artist beat him in the big Playhem tourney.
told ya before I dont give a damn about playhem/xilence/whatever nor international tlpd. The guy got ZERO recorded games in Korean tlpd. Is he some hidden bonjwa training in a cave or what? I bet hes gonna royal-walk the next GSL with that 72% winrate and gldk TvZ holy jesus
btw PuMa must be the second best player in the universe too, according to international TLPD. He just failed to make to a single Code fuckin A
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On January 24 2012 15:11 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 13:42 The Final Boss wrote:
I think you really need to reconsider your perception of Zenio, HerO, and DRG. Reconsider that DRG's probably the best mechanical player of starcraft 2 by a large margin and is the most awesome human being in the world? I think not!
He's not the 'best mechanical player.' That title can't be given out yet since a lot of players seem to have similar skill sets.
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On January 24 2012 15:18 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 15:11 neoghaleon55 wrote:On January 24 2012 13:42 The Final Boss wrote:
I think you really need to reconsider your perception of Zenio, HerO, and DRG. Reconsider that DRG's probably the best mechanical player of starcraft 2 by a large margin and is the most awesome human being in the world? I think not! He's not the 'best mechanical player.' That title can't be given out yet since a lot of players seem to have similar skill sets.
Do not argue with a rabid DRG fan!
they might act like zerglings and bite you!
rawr
lol
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