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[KGS]Slacker
Profile Joined November 2009
Denmark82 Posts
January 24 2012 02:47 GMT
#101
EG - oGs will be really exciting. oGs without MC just doesn't seem as scary for some reason. Regardless I think oGs will take this. Go Supernova all-kill!!
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
January 24 2012 02:48 GMT
#102
love team leagues.

I hope this means we can bring back fantasy sc2 team league too! zomgggggg
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 24 2012 02:54 GMT
#103
On January 24 2012 11:38 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 11:29 TheDougler wrote:
Edit: Rather than reading the following you might as well read Final Boss' predictions above. They're well worded and make sense... Though I stand by the following predictions:

Mousesports 5-2 Quantic
New Star HoSeo 5-2 Dignitas
EG 5-4 oGs
coL.MvP 5-2 Liquid
TSL 2-5 ReIGN
FXO 5-1 Vile
Startale 5-2 ZeNex
Prime 5-4 Empire

The reasons for these for the most part are below:

On January 24 2012 07:51 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Some of the worst predictions I have seen from a writer in a while

Mousesports 5-3 Quantic
New Star HoSeo 5-3 Dignitas
EG 5-4 oGs
coL.MvP 4-5 Liquid`
TSL 2-5 ReIGN
FXO 5-2 Vile
Startale 5-2 ZeNex
Prime 3-5 Empire


My predictions
+ Show Spoiler +

Mousesports 3-5 Quantic
New Star HoSeo 5-1 Dignitas
EG 1-5 oGs
coL.MvP 5-2 Liquid`
TSL 5-1 ReIGN
FXO 5-2 Vile
Startale 5-2 ZeNex
Prime 5-2 Empire


I agree with you on some parts but you are DEAD WRONG on a few of them. Most notably TSL vs ReIGN.

Strait up, ReIGN is going to MOP THE FLOOR with TSL. Well.. ok maybe not "Mop the floor" ReIGN will win pretty damn convincingly. There are two reasons for this:

1. TSL is in complete turmoil. Their coach seems more keen on griefmongering than coaching, and there's no way he can know the strengths and weaknesses of his perpetually shifting roster.

2. ReIGN is really REALLY good. Their whole team is kind of based completely around THIS team league. This is THE event that they focus on and they take it very seriously. They live in a pretty strict team house, and have a complete understanding of their strengths and weaknesses. If you want me to name specifics, no protoss on TSL will even come close to beating Inori. That dude is a PvP machine, that's what he was heralded as and he's proven it beating oGsMC and HuK (I think? Might've been Hero) at IPL3 as well as numerous PvP victories last season. So they can beat P, and Artist can easily beat any Zerg, that just leaves Polt. Polt might take a game or two off of ReIGN, but I don't think he can all kill them which is what he'll need to do.

The closest this match will be is 5-3 ReIGN.

Can't disagree with you on Col.MVP vs Liquid... Never bet against a team that includes DRG in a teamleague match.

Mouz losing to quantic? I find your abundance of faith in Naniwa disturbing... Sase too I guess, but Mana can certainly beat Sase... In fact, I really don't see where your prediction here comes from, please explain because I just strait up don't understand it. I think you just might not know anything about Mouz... the Silver Medalists from last season.

I agree that Prime will beat Empire but having watched with great anticipation all of MKPs matches, and agreeing that his TvT is not as bad as some people claim, I'm pretty certain Kas will beat him, the dude's a great player and a TvT monster. And then they've got violet... This one will be AT LEAST 5-3 Prime.


Lol and your most ridiculous opinion of all is this:
EG 1-5 oGs.

I mean COME ON! God I want to flame you so bad right now but instead I'll just tell you why you're wrong:

HuK
JYP
Puma

all three have proven themselves BIG TIME. HuK is, the second most consistent protoss in the world. He's been in the GSL for OVER A YEAR. No other protoss can say the same, even MC dropped out briefly (though he's still the most consistent protoss). But guess what? MC ISN'T HERE!

JYP is no slouch either man, and Puma has beaten plenty of top players before, Korean and foreigner alike. One of the best things is that if HuK can be said to have a weak matchup it's still PvP. So lets say a toss takes him out? Puma will DESTROY him.

On a tier just below those three is IdrA. You can bet he is PRACTICING hard now to stay in Code A at the very least. He can pull out wins, but EG can't rely on him.

So that's four pretty top notch players. If you're going to WIN a Bo5 Teamleague match, that's how many you need, sure a fifth would be nice, but four of this caliber can easily go the distance.

I'll let the results speak for themselves but I can't BELIEVE you think 1-5 oGs. It's going to be 5-4 I'm pretty sure, one way or the other.


Who cares if Inori is good against Protoss? TSL only has 1 toss so it doesn't matter. No one on reign is good enough to beat polt or revival.

There's this guy named Artist who's really good. And you never know with somebody like KiWiKaKi in a Bo1 format. He beat GuMiho the other day. Both of them stand a chance at taking down Polt, and Artist definitely can beat RevivaL.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 24 2012 02:56 GMT
#104
Yayyyy <3

So excited for this
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
January 24 2012 03:01 GMT
#105
I totally tuned in at the right time...Got to watch Select manhandle NSHS hehe. Can't wait to see Reign and Vile prove themselves. And hopefully the start of a strong liquid showing. <3
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
January 24 2012 03:04 GMT
#106
Sick lineup of teams, looking forward to
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
January 24 2012 03:31 GMT
#107
Perfect prediction NSGS vs Dignitas... o_o
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 03:34:46
January 24 2012 03:34 GMT
#108
1/1 Predictions so far. Even got the score exactly on. Not bad.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 03:47:07
January 24 2012 03:46 GMT
#109
3...2....1.....TeamLiquid Fighting
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 24 2012 03:49 GMT
#110
The fact that you think Artist can handle Symbol and Polt is laughable to me.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Reval
Profile Joined January 2012
United States297 Posts
January 24 2012 04:02 GMT
#111
NSH v Dignitas.

I'm just imaging a Sage all-kill in all honesty

Some of these predictions are very optimistic
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
January 24 2012 04:04 GMT
#112
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea)
¯\_(シ)_/¯
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1738 Posts
January 24 2012 04:07 GMT
#113
Well, I enjoyed the read, but these are some strange predictions :/

I can understand EG > oGs, since it might happen if all the EG players are able to play their best,

but MVP > Liquid in a team league?

ReIGN > TSL? Hmm.
phANT1m
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
South Africa535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 04:16:17
January 24 2012 04:13 GMT
#114
OMW things just got real. Also just saw results from Dignitas and was interesting.

Agree with WhatsOn. I dont think TL can take on MVP. MVP has way too much power flowing through it at the omoment, they might have a good chance for an upset but the edge should go to MVP who have more Code S players atm which is no easy feat.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33483 Posts
January 24 2012 04:16 GMT
#115
Psh, I think no one actually read the text and just looked at numbers :o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 24 2012 04:18 GMT
#116
On January 24 2012 13:04 Whatson wrote:
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea)

If I read one more post like this, I'm going to jump Wax, I'm gonna do it.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 04:28:49
January 24 2012 04:20 GMT
#117
On January 24 2012 12:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
The fact that you think Artist can handle Symbol and Polt is laughable to me.

In his last 40 TvZ's he's lost 4 games. And the people he's played against includes DIMAGA, Lucky, sLivko and Sheth. Lucky's ZvT is better than Symbol's and any of the other ZvTs on TSL for that matter.

The fact that you can somehow blow that off as not being a big deal is laughable to me.

And Polt is pretty inconsistent in TvT. His style is pretty cheesy so I think that Artist definitely could beat him. I'd still favor Polt in that match-up, but I wouldn't say that there is no way that Artist could handle Polt.

EDIT: Also RevivaL only has 6 first place finishes in Playhem Daily, where as Artist has 15... just sayin' ^^
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 24 2012 04:21 GMT
#118
On January 24 2012 13:16 Waxangel wrote:
Psh, I think no one actually read the text and just looked at numbers :o

I read the text...
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
January 24 2012 04:22 GMT
#119
On January 24 2012 08:26 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 07:58 Corsica wrote:
On January 24 2012 07:51 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Some of the worst predictions I have seen from a writer in a while

Mousesports 5-3 Quantic
New Star HoSeo 5-3 Dignitas
EG 5-4 oGs
coL.MvP 4-5 Liquid`
TSL 2-5 ReIGN
FXO 5-2 Vile
Startale 5-2 ZeNex
Prime 3-5 Empire


My predictions
+ Show Spoiler +

Mousesports 3-5 Quantic
New Star HoSeo 5-1 Dignitas
EG 1-5 oGs
coL.MvP 5-2 Liquid`
TSL 5-1 ReIGN
FXO 5-2 Vile
Startale 5-2 ZeNex
Prime 5-2 Empire


Your predictions are worse some of em are very outdated and dont recognize recent transfers.

I find it funny that you think Quantic will beat Mouz. Even with Nani and Sase, it's entirely possible they get all killed. Empire is also incredably strong, but I don't want to put too much hope on them. If Prime plays a zerg player, I could see that giving them the most trouble, however Kas is favored against most of the players on that list.


Where did you see me say that? I think Mouz>Quantic (once they snipe nAni + SaSe its over) , and Empire>Prime (Kas is in great shape i see him beating at least 3 players)
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 05:53:00
January 24 2012 04:27 GMT
#120
On January 24 2012 13:04 Whatson wrote:
Teamliquid over coLMVP? Um, I understand that this is a Team Liquid sponsored website, but can we make these predictions slightly more reasonable? You don't mess with DRG in a team league. EVER. Also, Genius is a pretty beastly as well, great at PvP and above average at PvZ. Liquid right now is relying on HerO and Zenio. Well, Zenio's ZvT is pretty weak, and sC has proven to be really great at TvZ (he brought DRG to the last set in a bo7, can't get much better than that), or Noblesse/Keen could step up. HerO could very well fall to DRG or Genius, or even lose to sC (who has a ~67% win rate against Protoss in Korea)

Hi, i run marketing for Liquid`. That means its my job to make sure they look good all the time - even I think this prediction is crazy. The nature of TL though is that we have a lot of writers with a lot of different opinions. Remember when Wax made bad predictions in GSL a 1 or 2 seasons ago and then had to eat humble pie?? Feel free to do that if Deezl (who wrote them) is wrong. At the end of the day, it's just video games!

No BS: It really depends how seriously MVP takes the match but id say it ranges from 35-45% for Liquid. MVP could pull out DRG really early, or they could just send practice partners, or it could be half of coL. FWIW I really hate these team partnerships combined in team leagues.
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