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France2061 Posts
Thanks for this sub team!
So much of what they said was aimed at Savior, with Um talking about whether he was even embarrassed about it, about tearing down his poster, about still believing in him and defending him when he was slumping... the fact that the leading figure of the scandal is a fucking OSL champion is just terrible. Not just a few mediocre, easily forgotten players but Ma Bonjwa himself 
In a way I'm glad he never embodied esports the way Boxer does -- Boxer, always playing for the fans. His interview seemed very understated but it was the most emotional moment of the show.
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Thanks for the translation guys!
Now I can realize the whole impact of this scandal
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I'm actually a little disappointed in how butthurt these guys seem to be. 7 or so progamers were poor and underpaid, so they took the money where they could get it. Personally, I would prefer the glory of winning, but I can understand the players motivation. I can't see how these commentators couldn't sympathize with them.
Also, living in America, I've grown slightly apathetic towards big scandal such as this. If anything, the idea that someone felt it was worth it to break he law to fix SC games for money shows SC's legitimacy as an e-sport.
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To the people who think that the progamers are overdramatizing this situation, seriously you need to realize something before you say those kinds of things. As mentioned before, respect in Korea is extremely important along with the public self-image. The reason why the commentators' discontent with this whole scandal is reasonable is because these progamers have LOST the respect of their fans, other progamers, and the commentators as well. Losing one's trust is, as Kim Carrier points out, devastating because it's hard to earn that trust back. That is why this scandal is such a big deal. Most of these progamers have to be hard-pressed to earn the trust of the fans and the public again and the same goes for every progamer as well. How can anyone trust the progamers to maintain their integrity and honor when playing matches when something like this happens? Therefore, there is a rationale for the commentators to be extremely upset with this scandal.
Not only that, but E-Sports also has not fully blossomed into a true part of Korea's culture yet. One can't really compare the E-Sports scene with other competitive activities such as Soccer and Basketball, because these competitive scenes have been around much longer than E-Sports has. The impact of this scandal on E-Sports clearly has had a much more devastating effect because it hasn't been around long enough.
In a way though, I believe the scandal has some positive aspects despite the blatantly obvious negative effects it has had on people's views towards E-Sports in general. Because this scandal has happened, the E-Sports scene can now develop a system to prevent any further scandals from happening in the future. I believe it's better that the E-Sports scene was exposed to this kind of corruption, so that they may develop better prevention from it and as a result, "learn from mistakes". It still clearly is unfortunate though that this had to happen now, where E-Sports was just beginning to expand and become a big part of society.
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Lalalaland34500 Posts
On May 25 2010 04:43 rockon1215 wrote:
I'm actually a little disappointed in how butthurt these guys seem to be. 7 or so progamers were poor and underpaid, so they took the money where they could get it. Personally, I would prefer the glory of winning, but I can understand the players motivation. I can't see how these commentators couldn't sympathize with them.
Some were underpaid, maybe, but Savior was definitely not. These people are also 'butthurt' because they compare the environment of gamers now to in the past (when Boxer etc were first starting out) and commenting on how lucky current progamers already have it.
Also, living in America, I've grown slightly apathetic towards big scandal such as this. If anything, the idea that someone felt it was worth it to break he law to fix SC games for money shows SC's legitimacy as an e-sport.
The culture in Korea is different from America. Honour, honesty etc are all valued above all in Korea and most Asian countries. If this sort of thing happened in America, no one would care. It is because it happened in an Asian society where it had maintained such a good reputation that caused all the sadness.
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Man his chewing is soo annoying, please just wait like 20 minutes after the show is over to eat. Can't take things seriously with his loud mouth noises.
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On May 25 2010 07:09 rbkl wrote:
Man his chewing is soo annoying, please just wait like 20 minutes after the show is over to eat. Can't take things seriously with his loud mouth noises.
i think the point is that this is "after the show" and they're just chillaxin talking about what went down
i really liked watching this, thanks for to the subs team. gives hope that there's still people like these 3 with passion for e-sports, and it won't die as long as there's people behind it
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I hope BW doesn't get overshadowed by SC2 
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Bisutopia19300 Posts
Watched the whole thing! Thanks for the translation. E-sports is still amazing and will never die. Long Live BW! Long Live SC!
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On May 24 2010 18:00 RA wrote:
They are too emotional about the situation, it's over-dramatizing and doesn't perceive as natural.
As a guy who speaks to an audience regularly, I can tell you there is a certain air of unnaturalness when performing for a camera/microphone that is very difficult to get rid of, unless you're a naturally bombastic person. They're speaking their minds, but they have to project their thoughts through their TV personalities, which may sometimes come off as ungenuine, but I absolutely believe this episode showed how they feel about the scandal.
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Didn't watch all of it, but watched some sections of it. Really puts SC in a different perspective for me now.
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pocari sweat is sponsoring skt t1?
lol, flash. wrong team
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God damn that food looked good.
Very good watch, thanks for subbing this. Should be placed in spotlight if not already.
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Thank you for subbing  !
E-Sports hwaiting~
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Fuck SC2. Go Brood War!!! Blizzard's SC2  Really ruined my year for me and many other people, too.
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On May 25 2010 07:57 Lightningbullet wrote:I hope BW doesn't get overshadowed by SC2
A little off topic.
Anyway, the video was great. I for one, will do my best to be a strong root.
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Wow!
The subtitles were amazing.
It's so interesting to see the culture difference between Korea and the United States. Those commentators really took the scandal upon themselves, like they were being held accountable along with the 9 players.
Interesting, very interesting.
Thanks again for the translation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Easily the best post all year.
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Thanks for subbing this. It definitely showed just how large of an impact the scandal might have on the fragile BW scene. Very emotional episode. I hope the sponsors stick around for years to come.
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On May 25 2010 04:43 rockon1215 wrote:
I'm actually a little disappointed in how butthurt these guys seem to be. 7 or so progamers were poor and underpaid, so they took the money where they could get it. Personally, I would prefer the glory of winning, but I can understand the players motivation. I can't see how these commentators couldn't sympathize with them.
I think they made that pretty clear. The whole part about "eating ramen"... maybe it was lost in the translation, but all three lived through harder times than progamers now, all just to build the scene into what it is. Hard to have sympathy for kids who have it better than you did when they've just fucked over the whole of e-sports for personal gain - e-sports that these commentators, and others, sacrificed with blood sweat and tears to help create.
ps : Many thanks again, sub-team. This was a very insightful episode for too many reasons to count.
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Thanks so much for the translation.
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