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Pretty interesting to see how beat up they all were about it, especially Kingdom (dude looked like he was really let down. Not his usual self at all).
I think a lot of people didn't realise the potential for disaster that the whole scandal caused and, although the commentators were talking quite emotionally, the points they made were, for the most part, sound.
With the release of SC2 on the ever-approaching horizon, SC progamers must have been feeling a little bit on edge anyway, with no one knowing exactly what would happen and how clean the transition will be, but this just must have come as such a blow.
I'm sure that a lot of members of the esports scene must be really unsure of their future for a lot of reasons right now. Which must really really suck (to say the least).
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The long term effects of this have yet to be seen, but all I can think of is how will these young adults fair in the world when E-sports actually dies out? They tailored their lives on this game, they worked their hearts out just to fulfill this dream long long ago watching their idols play the game.
It just kills me to see people like Kim Carrier actually feel what I thought I felt, that these rotten bunch just ruined it for the young upcoming stars that are yet to be discovered. It completly ruins the potential trust of the fans to new stars, as well as it makes a unstable base for these new stars to play on.
I can't help but wonder how will these players live if they don't have E-sports? They can't support themselves because they've already sacrificed this much. I can't understand why they would match fix if they went through the same thing, and knew of such circumstances if they were to get caught. Seriously, those riggers didn't think this shit out.
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It's heartbreaking seeing kim carrier ask for the forgiveness of fans when savior and the other match fixers should be the ones doing it. yes, if esports goes down the commentators are out of a job, but they care a lot more than that. they've spent years building the image of the esports scene only to find out there are people who will sell off all their hard work, just like that.
seeing kim carrier and the other commentators, boxer and oov was like watching a delinquent kid's parents have to go and beg for another chance for him, while the kid doesn't even care how much he hurt the parents. but they're willing to swallow their pride because they love him enough even though it's not their fault.
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OMG BISU WILL BE ON OLD BOY EP 10?? OH YA
SORRY FOR CAPS LOLOLOLOL
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On May 24 2010 19:02 aimaimaim wrote:
OMG BISU WILL BE ON OLD BOY EP 10?? OH YA
SORRY FOR CAPS LOLOLOLOL
Are you slightly retarded?
On topic, this was really a tragedy that affected the pillars of ESports, and this is the first time it's been made so painfully clear to me. Hopefully the players realize just how dire their situation is (unlike that little shit go.go whose attitude completely appalled me in Old Boy episode 9) and at least UNDERSTAND that their image has collectively been tarnished and that they learn from this tragedy.
On a brighter note, there was quite a crowd at the OSL finals, and I have high hopes for the MSL finals as well.
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On May 24 2010 19:19 LunarC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 19:02 aimaimaim wrote:
OMG BISU WILL BE ON OLD BOY EP 10?? OH YA
SORRY FOR CAPS LOLOLOLOL Are you slightly retarded?
On May 24 2010 17:10 Roffles wrote:
Don't worry about Bisu, I'm pretty sure he's legit, as he's in Oldboy Ep 10, which was aired immediately after this show was.
ya slightly ..
OT: anyways im just wondering when did the Old Boy was taped? was it before or after the confirmation was casted on the 9pm news? so that we can know what the fuss was all about when the other commentators were talking about Nal_ra's cursing ..
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I honestly think this is the end of starcraft progaming because the sponsors are not going to be that interested next season, after all of this shit happened 
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Few koreans know or use the ID's of players. None of the people I know can recognize a single ID except for Boxer's. Not even the famous ones like Flash, Bisu or Savior. I don't believe they are trying to hint something.
Thanks for subtitles. Really appreciated!
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Every where there is a gambling system there is a scandal like that, too bad still there a lot of people want to make money with their luck
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I like the things the fat commentator (dunno his name) had to say.
Let's be the deep and strong roots people!
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I feel really sorry for Oov and especially Boxer...they're the ones who built this up and now they have to beg to the fans...it's sad.
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Damn the commentators seem very pissed off. Forgot how deep this thing goes. Talk of teams dispanding seems very bad.
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Thanks for subs, you guys are champs for doing it and letting us see how damaging the scandal is in hindsight. It's a real shame Nal_rA wasn't there because I really wanted to hear his thoughts but they did say he was swearing on that shinae show.
It's such a shame that they stooped so low and even more so that likable players did this and we won't be able to see them play again or even see how far they could have gone >< aside from their crimes, I'll still miss seeing them. (players I liked)
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On May 24 2010 16:49 Lawliet wrote:
I'm a little troubled by what the guy on the left says. When he says a what these cheaters did was like stabbing the community he specifically uses the word "bisu". It's not inappropriate or anything but it is a big archaic for casual conversation..... kind of feels like he uses that word specific as a hint... This would really suck because he was the guy who inspired me to play tos.....
If he even hinted at the player it'd have been censored. It just means "Hidden Dagger" in this case. You generally don't need to worry about homonyms having multiple meanings in this case I think.
OT: anyways im just wondering when did the Old Boy was taped? was it before or after the confirmation was casted on the 9pm news? so that we can know what the fuss was all about when the other commentators were talking about Nal_ra's cursing ..
The 10th Episode? May 13th~19th.
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Thanks for subbing this, awesome to have an insight on what the commentators think about the whole situation.
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Thanks for the translation. This was realling interesting (and somewhat depressing) viewing.
Like many others have said here it really opened my eyes to certain aspects of this that hadn't even occured to me. Like how the creation of ACE really helped legitimise ESPORTS to the general public.
The most scary part for me is the sponsor issue. While the OSL seems to have had less problems, It's no secret that the MSL has struggled a little recently to find a sponsor on time, this can only make things even harder for both leagues. At the end of the day, no sponsors, no programing.
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Thank you for subbing this. I sure hope that the sponsors don't quit on a whim like they talked about :<
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so this is the request Kim Carrier made. Damn it.
Damn you all involved in the scandal.
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konadora
Singapore66201 Posts
Oh god.. Boxer now.
It's really tough to watch through this. fuck.
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Thanks very much for the translation, really appreciated.
I think Jaegyung is probably correct in his assessment compared to Kim Carrier.
Also I loved the Boxer/iloveoov interviews at the end. It seemed like Boxer was holding back tears at times but it might just have been the impassioned way he was speaking. Also, loved how positive iloveoov was. Great spirit.
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