EPT[SC2B] Battle.net - 1 Step Forward, 2.0 Steps Back - Page 2
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Spook
Romania72 Posts
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zeox
Norway314 Posts
Good read though, I agree with most of it. Hoping that blizzard will see this and atleast take it into consideration | ||
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FreshNoThyme
United States356 Posts
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
Maybe thats just because I'm used to finding scrims etc on IRC as I wasn't that active in broodwar rather than the channels on bnet / the abyss. | ||
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carwashguy
United States175 Posts
On wanting to know where you stand sever wide, assuming you're assigned divisions at random, your rank in your division should tell you more or less where you stand server wide. If you're ranked 50th, that should mean you're better than about 50% of all players on, say, Gold. Although, knowing my "true rank" out of millions of players would be interesting. A compromise could be implementing the same thing that Tetrisfriends.com does. They tell you your percentile straight up (comparing your high score to others). That info would be even more interesting. (Ranking out of millions doesn't tell me much, but knowing I'm in the 75th percentile tells me a great deal.) | ||
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
But remember, its only been out for a week - if its all the same in 3 months time, then I'm sure everyone will start to get pissed off. | ||
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Scourge
Romania14 Posts
On February 25 2010 01:19 Kaniol wrote: I absolutely agree, no chat channels (as well as online replays) is just such a nonsense, i just don't see a reason why did they take step back, if they implemented these features in SC1/Bnet1.0 then why can't they do the same now? :| cause a change dosent mean all stuffs+new one means new thinks wich can have no relate to the original ones | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On February 25 2010 01:18 damenmofa wrote: agree with you completely, although the inactivated "channels" tab seems to be what ur looking for when it comes to chatting. I dont see anything hinting at online replays being implemented though and that really sucks huge monkey balls. Its really shitty to be like "omg I just beat XYZ in this epic game, you gotta watch this... oh nvm 8[". Sending the replay via email or icq and then timing the replay start together to be able to have a somewhat similar experience is obviously a crappy solution. One more thing Id like to add that you didnt mention: Why on earth is voice chat deactivated in custom games? Its totally bollocks if you play a casual 1on1 just to test things out or smth against a friend whom youve invited to your party and then when ur ingame playing against each other, voice chat is automatically deactivated. Ahhh, where's that channels tab? I haven't seen it. If they do have that, it would take care of my biggest criticism. On February 25 2010 01:53 RANDOMCL wrote: Uh, yeah, I think it is common sense that chat channels will be implemented. I'm confused as to why this is such a big issue at the moment. Obviously, they aren't going to release a game without them. You realize, of course, that they said at Blizzcon that there would be no chat channels for the game at launch? Like, they said literally just that. I even linked to a post about it. On February 25 2010 01:56 bmml wrote: I only agree with the chatrooms and replays and afaik due to all the complaints on their forums chatrooms will probably be in on release, I actually prefer the division based ranking - as someone who isn't anywhere near the top of the SC crème de la crème I couldn't care less that im 1 millionth in the world, being xth of the y division gives me something close and achievable rather than some high up distant and the idea that there will be automated tournaments with other people from my rank level is great. However I hope that the post release "pro" division championships will be more transparent and hopefully they will enable some sort of observing for the top division's championship games. Maybe thats just because I'm used to finding scrims etc on IRC as I wasn't that active in broodwar rather than the channels on bnet / the abyss. But you can still have division rankings, you just have to have an overall ranking as well. For instance, let's say I'm #10 in divsion 3, then if I click "Overall rankings" I'd see that hey - I'm #80 ovrerall. Or whatever. | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5472 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On February 25 2010 01:20 oberon wrote: Umm...race-picking wouldn't work. Let's say you pick ZvP, ZvT, TvZ. Your opponent picks ZvZ, PvT, PvP. Now what? --oberon You need to specify a race vs. random too. I think that in the absence of otherwise agreeable matchups it just sticks both players with their vs. random race. This seems fine to me. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On February 25 2010 01:20 oberon wrote: Umm...race-picking wouldn't work. Let's say you pick ZvP, ZvT, TvZ. Your opponent picks ZvZ, PvT, PvP. Now what? --oberon You both default to your vs Random choice. So the ZvP ZvT TvZ guy probably is ZvP ZvT TvZ ZvR, the ZvZ, PvT, PvP guy probably is PvR. EDIT: What crate said, at the same time as me  I'm glad someone noticed  | ||
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Islandsnake
United States679 Posts
And I don't see why in a ladder situation you should be able to pick and choose your matchups... if you play zerg you shouldn't get a scape goat on your worst matchup its a random ladder with random maps and players...not iccup. I didn't get this option in war3 and I wouldn't want it. I wish I could watch replays with friends >< I really do hope they figure that out. | ||
diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On February 25 2010 02:16 FrozenArbiter wrote: Ahhh, where's that channels tab? I haven't seen it. If they do have that, it would take care of my biggest criticism. You realize, of course, that they said at Blizzcon that there would be no chat channels for the game at launch? Like, they said literally just that. I even linked to a post about it. But you can still have division rankings, you just have to have an overall ranking as well. For instance, let's say I'm #10 in divsion 3, then if I click "Overall rankings" I'd see that hey - I'm #80 ovrerall. Or whatever. oopsie, meant the social tab. I just naturely assumed it would have channels and it was such a given to have channels for me that I apparently renamed it to "channels" in my mind. Now that Ive followed your link and read they said they wouldnt implement it for retail im pretty much blown away by their idiocy. I cant understand how you can come up with an awesome game like SC2, where you put ages of development time into and then totally fail at basic Interface shit that has been standard since a long time. So far that makes the following features not being available _at shipping date_ (from various interviews): Customizable Hotkeys Online Replays Chat Channels Honestly, even one of these features not being in a RTS retailing 2010 would be a huge WTF for me, but if they really go through and implement none of these.... No, I cant put into words how that would make me feel t.t | ||
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MannerMan
371 Posts
I really hope they fix that. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
They know that as soon as they do that, even if it's temporary, there's going to be huge backlash when they swap it out for something different. And it does take man hours to implement that: hours that they could invest into more enduring features. So the fact is that what they said at Blizzcon about something better than chat channels is indeed relevant. As opposed to the huge backlash they are going to get at release when there's no chat channels and no substitute? I mean, if what they have planned is so great, then I'd much rather take the backlash when they replace channels, rather than suffer the negativity of saying "oh, well, we have nothing but just you wait! In a few months..." At least when they come out with something better to replace channels, they can call it an upgrade. | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
On February 25 2010 02:16 FrozenArbiter wrote: For instance, let's say I'm #10 in divsion 3, then if I click "Overall rankings" I'd see that hey - I'm #80 ovrerall. Or whatever. Well I imagine that is the kinda small easily fixed change they can make in the beta at least I hope it is ;p. | ||
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zeppelin
United States565 Posts
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valleyatsc
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