• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:40
CET 19:40
KST 03:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC28[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video Starcraft:Brood War Discord Servers [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away.
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc Nintendo Switch Thread List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Can Game Data Analytics Help Players Improvements
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
VCT 2027 America Kickoff LAT…
anakin.
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11979 users

[SC2B] Battle.net - 1 Step Forward, 2.0 Steps Back - Page 3

Forum Index > News
204 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Piousflea
Profile Joined February 2010
United States259 Posts
February 24 2010 17:45 GMT
#41
I don't mind the lack of chat channels as long as they let us create private chatrooms and invite friends and "recently played" players. After all, Xbox Live does not have chat channels and it's a perfectly viable social network.

On the other hand, the lack of online replays is flabbergasting. Anyone who's played Halo 3 can tell you that replays are way more fun to watch together.
Seek, behold, and reveal the truth
Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
February 24 2010 17:52 GMT
#42
sure bnet is great for playing games
but without chat lobbies, its sorely lacking in the social department

its prob one of the two reasons why i still play (the other being UMS games)
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 17:56:44
February 24 2010 17:53 GMT
#43
On February 25 2010 02:45 Piousflea wrote:
I don't mind the lack of chat channels as long as they let us create private chatrooms and invite friends and "recently played" players. After all, Xbox Live does not have chat channels and it's a perfectly viable social network.

On the other hand, the lack of online replays is flabbergasting. Anyone who's played Halo 3 can tell you that replays are way more fun to watch together.

Omg no, Xbox Live or Windows Live totally suck ass compared to bnet 1.0. Judging from your post content and postcount you must be a console gamer...

Additionally, using halo 3 as an example why online replays are much more fun on the biggest SC1 fansite around doesnt seem like a clever way of arguing
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
February 24 2010 17:56 GMT
#44
On February 25 2010 02:45 Piousflea wrote:
I don't mind the lack of chat channels as long as they let us create private chatrooms and invite friends and "recently played" players. After all, Xbox Live does not have chat channels and it's a perfectly viable social network.

On the other hand, the lack of online replays is flabbergasting. Anyone who's played Halo 3 can tell you that replays are way more fun to watch together.

no its not
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
February 24 2010 18:02 GMT
#45
The reason why xbox live doesn't have chat channels is because xbox live doesn't have a keyboard. That is a design decision they went with because it made sense on that platform. On the PC, that's ludicrous. It is the stupidest, most short-sighted thing I could imagine.

I don't have a single friend right now on battle.net because the only way to get them is to either have someone in real life who is in the beta, or find one on a forum I happen to frequent.
cbpye
Profile Joined September 2007
United States5 Posts
February 24 2010 18:02 GMT
#46
Awesome, my website got quoted and linked! Pity I couldn't get in the beta to bitch about this myself.
http://cbpye.net
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 24 2010 18:07 GMT
#47
[image loading]

Don't dissapoint us...
wwww
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
February 24 2010 18:09 GMT
#48
They can't include all battle.net features right at release. Who would buy Heart Of The Swarm and Legacy Of The Void if Wings Of Liberty already contained all the basic features people expect to get for their money?
phexac
Profile Joined March 2004
United States186 Posts
February 24 2010 18:09 GMT
#49
Agreed on every single point. Chat channels is a huge and completely inexcusable omission. No online replays is only a few steps behind. A huge part of the community interaction on b.net in BW was watching replays together. Taking that away is a serious blow to the game. Additionally I can't see that as being that hard to implement or being all that resource-intensive. So wtf?

Overall rankings are also a big deal. Being ranked solely in tiny little groups really does nothing, as I cannot see that rating as having any real meaning. 100 people when b.net will have 50k+ players playing SC2 at the same time? Great I am ranked in a group of people most of who I have never played before (because what are the chances that of all the players on the ladder you will get to play one of the 100 in your specific division?). Yeah that's really great way to see how I am ranked. Makes no sense what so ever.

No game names is also an inexplicable step backwards. Combined with no lobby chat it becomes far far worse.

I hope Blizzard fixes these issue before release. As is, the new B.net sounds barely usable.
Altair
Profile Joined August 2009
243 Posts
February 24 2010 18:16 GMT
#50
Feels lonely? Battle.net is lonely too you know, nothing new here. T T
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
February 24 2010 18:16 GMT
#51
oh FA.. thank god you wrote this.. I agree with all the points

please for the love of god Blizzard just implement the absolutely amazing features/platform that Heroes of Newerth uses! and also the ability to reconnect after crashing/disconnecting would be great (mostly useful for custom games, but on occasion if you can come back fast could be useful on ladder too)
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 24 2010 18:24 GMT
#52
The other thing that I would like to see is the ranking of your opponent in the game loading screen. Sure the favored/not favored tracker at the bottom helps, but i think it would be fun to know exactly who you were facing, without having to ask.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Dr.Frost
Profile Joined April 2009
United States389 Posts
February 24 2010 18:27 GMT
#53
@the original poster. I agree with everything. One thing though you CAN reply to a private msgs in. Game very simply. Press eneter to type and press tab to cycle through recent people you've communicated with. Anyone who has an open conversation with you while Your in a game can be responded to by just hitting the tab key after pressing enter to change the recipient.
They are here to right our fall, they have heard someones troubled call???
lgn!
Profile Joined February 2010
Italy224 Posts
February 24 2010 18:30 GMT
#54
100% agreed
화이팅
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 24 2010 18:30 GMT
#55
On February 25 2010 02:44 valleyatsc wrote:
lol! go play the game! go play for free man! YOU PLAY FOR FREE and i cant play at all! so wait for fucking release with social complain

So, the concept of a beta must have eluded you.

They don't play for free. They pay with constructive criticism.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
February 24 2010 18:37 GMT
#56
Good read and I agree with many of the things addressed.

However, Blizzard has always done a great job of implementing features/fixes post-release. All of these features probably can and will be implemented with enough beta feedback. Keep in mind features are limited because this is, in fact, a testing phase.

In SC, the replay feature was not released until 1.08 and other little enhancements were added in the original battle.net interface as things progressed.

This is not an accurate representation of the finished battle.net 2.0, nor will it be when the product ships.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
MartT
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom88 Posts
February 24 2010 18:39 GMT
#57
On February 25 2010 02:44 valleyatsc wrote:
lol! go play the game! go play for free man! YOU PLAY FOR FREE and i cant play at all! so wait for fucking release with social complain


It's called feedback, that's what beta is all about, the dev's getting feedback from various sources.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9593 Posts
February 24 2010 18:45 GMT
#58
FA you make it all sound soo dreadful =(. I'm seriously doubting Blizzard right now in the regards of being able to deliver a good gaming platform. After reading your article it seems that the new b.net is a huge disappointement and has more design flaws that a swiss cheese has holes!
I'm starting to lose faith in B.net 2.0 =( hope they'll do something about it.
Is it official and permanent that chat channels will be out? Or can we at least hope for their implimentation? Same question for reps online?
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
February 24 2010 18:51 GMT
#59
On February 25 2010 02:16 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2010 01:53 RANDOMCL wrote:
Uh, yeah, I think it is common sense that chat channels will be implemented. I'm confused as to why this is such a big issue at the moment. Obviously, they aren't going to release a game without them.

You realize, of course, that they said at Blizzcon that there would be no chat channels for the game at launch? Like, they said literally just that. I even linked to a post about it.

.


You make it sound like you're the only one following the game. Your post links to information saying that the traditional chat channels won't be there, but:

"Because we have something much bigger planned, chat channels are messy".

It is common sense that there is going to a way to mass communicate with people. Maybe it won't be called a "channel", but it is ridiculous to think they won't allow players to communicate with ease.

You are going off what Blizzard says as fact, right? "You realize, of course, that they said at Blizzcon that there would be no chat channels for the game at launch?" So, you managed to take half of what they said, and misconstrue it. You are part of the reason people are getting so much false information. If such an article, loaded with misinformation, is allowed to be posted on the front page of the premier foreign SC site, what does that say?

Just stop, breathe, and think. Blizzard has already promised an alternative. It is confirmed in your own post.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 24 2010 18:54 GMT
#60
i love tl cause they know whats important for a competitive gamer whos been around for years on bw/wc. unlike blizzard ppl
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
02:00
Replay Cast Not-Summer Invite
TaKeTV 370
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 381
BRAT_OK 51
MindelVK 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3373
Rain 1406
Mini 311
Dewaltoss 97
HiyA 91
hero 81
Hyun 55
Pusan 48
ggaemo 42
sorry 15
[ Show more ]
Shine 11
yabsab 8
Dota 2
Gorgc8146
qojqva2083
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2407
gobbtv218
jkaem129
zeus92
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby1804
Liquid`Hasu157
Trikslyr151
Other Games
singsing1702
Beastyqt711
ToD191
XaKoH 156
ArmadaUGS131
QueenE89
C9.Mang082
Chillindude11
Railgan5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1117
StarCraft 2
angryscii 15
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 38
• Hinosc 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix13
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV444
League of Legends
• TFBlade1028
Other Games
• imaqtpie648
• Shiphtur613
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 50m
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
15h 20m
WardiTV Invitational
17h 20m
ByuN vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Solar
Clem vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Lambo vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
IPSL
22h 20m
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
1d 1h
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 15h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 17h
IPSL
1d 22h
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
2 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.