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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On September 14 2009 20:20 tirentu wrote: I'll keep it simple. Fuck KeSPA! It's not that type of discussion anymore, stupid. It used to be korean vs korean. Now it's a foreign interest vs korean protecting their homegrown interest. There's an element of identity here now. Blizzard makes the game but they don't control the players. The players are the real value here, the game's just a platform. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
On September 14 2009 20:25 .risingdragoon wrote: It's not that type of discussion anymore, stupid. It used to be korean vs korean. Now it's a foreign interest vs korean protecting their homegrown interest. There's an element of identity here now. Blizzard makes the game but they don't control the players. The players are the real value here, the game's just a platform. Players can be found everywhere. If people like Ret and Nony become the new stars of SC2 instead of Bisu and Jaedong, all the better for us TBH. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On September 14 2009 20:26 motbob wrote: Players can be found everywhere. If people like Ret and Nony become the new stars of SC2 instead of Bisu and Jaedong, all the better for us TBH. I said identity haven't I? Who in korea's gonna watch the subpar performance of ret and nony? That's like Americans watching countries weak in basketball playing eachother. Never gonna happen. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On September 14 2009 20:30 .risingdragoon wrote: I said identity haven't I? Who in korea's gonna watch the subpar performance of ret and nony? Who cares lol? Let Bisu and Jaedong play their games on whatever Korean game developers whip up. I'll be happy watching the foreign scene. EDIT: the above is missing the point. I'm sorry. Let me write another post that's more accurate. | ||
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Vex
Ireland454 Posts
On September 14 2009 20:30 .risingdragoon wrote: I said identity haven't I? Who in korea's gonna watch the subpar performance of ret and nony? does it matter? | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On September 14 2009 20:33 motbob wrote: Who cares lol? Let Bisu and Jaedong play their games on whatever Korean game developers whip up. I'll be happy watching the foreign scene. EDIT: the above is missing the point. I'm sorry. Let me write another post that's more accurate. Foreign scene is not korean scene. Last I checked nobody's fighting over international broadcasting right here. That's cus everything's already in place in korea. If Bliz just wanted international there wouldn't be all this BS. They want korean. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On September 14 2009 20:18 .risingdragoon wrote: First of all, I don't know why you think they want the broadcast rights, that's never gonna happen. I always figured they're in it for a slice of the profit. Esports is a homegrown industry made possible by years of continuous efforts, broadcast is the fruit of those efforts, it's what makes 2 stations and various internet stations possible. Taking that means taking everything. And the korean government has Kespa's back. They know what's at stake here. If activisionBlizzard forces their hand, they'll give it a deathrole rating like AO or some such, making it near impossible to do real business there. Not to mention there won't be enough fans to support any type of leagues. KeSPA did a lot for E-Sports in the past. They added some of the much needed professionalism in E-Sports, but ever since Starcraft's popularity in Korea peaked (around 2006 or so) they seem to do their best to do as much harm as possible to E-Sports. KeSPA has desperately in the last couple of years tried to find alternatives to Starcraft without major success. Games like Sudden Attack is getting more popular but it is far from Starcraft's level, and I'm not sure KeSPA will be able to operate as they have in the past without Starcraft 2. I also wonder how strong the government backing of KeSPA is. Last time I checked Korea was a member of WTO, and getting a complaint there is quite a big deal. Activision-Blizzard is owned by Vivendi, which isn't a small company, and that have plenty of contacts if needed. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On September 14 2009 20:39 Eury wrote: If this happened, the drama would just hit epic levels.I also wonder how strong the government backing of KeSPA is. Last time I checked Korea was a member of WTO, and getting a complaint there is quite a big deal. Activision-Blizzard is owned by Vivendi, which isn't a small company, and that have plenty of contacts if needed. | ||
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ChewbroCColi
Denmark108 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
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Kuma1
4 Posts
Up until recently, no games company has tried to actively participate in broadcasting e-sports. This has been left up to the community as a whole, with the attitude that games developers are there to make games. It was also a case that most events are not profitable enough to justify doing this. Blizzard has been the first to really change the trend with World of Warcraft, and now it seems with Starcraft. However, there has also never been a monopoly on e-sports such as Kespa holds over SC in Korea. This is likely due to how advanced e-sports is there compared to anywhere else in the world. As there is no precedent, it's really hard to say who is "right" or "wrong" here. However, it would be nice to see cooperation between the two to provide an even better service than currentlly. | ||
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
KeSPA stooge #1: "So, SC2 is almost out. Suggestions on how to generate the most hate, and make things as complicated for ourselves as possible?" KeSPA stooge #2: "War with Blizzard?" KeSPA stooge #1: "Love it!" I'm sure this is how it happened. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On September 14 2009 17:24 Chrispy wrote: Well then. I think I speak for the entirety of Foreign Broodwar fans when I say... Fuck you, Kespa! Speak for us all, and I hope KeSPA eventually feels it and realizes how fucking stupid they are. | ||
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