I have to say, I haven't been excited since the teaser trailer in 06 until right now. Cool stuff!

Also that writeup that someone posted in the SC2 forum from that other site? You made them look like they didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. Hats off to ya!

toopham

United States551 Posts

September 02 2009 23:36 GMT

#23

good writeup. very interesting.

I am confuse about 1 part though.
In the Macro section you wrote:
"With Zerg you select your hatches, hit "S" to select all the larvae, and press "H" 10 times to make 10 hydralisks. Easy."

In BW you select the hatches, press S and it selects ALL the larvae. So why would you have to press H 10 times to make hydras?
Did they change it in SC2 where pressing H only use up 1 larvae?

talismania

United States2364 Posts

September 02 2009 23:38 GMT

#24

I imagine that Spawn Larvae is deliberately OP right now... Blizzard in the past has repeatedly said how they tend to make new abilities and units initially too powerful in order to encourage their use, and then pare them back over time as needed. Given this report and corroborating accounts, I can easily see Blizzard scaling back Spawn Larvae in terms of either mana cost, refresh time, or # of larvae produced after a few weeks of serious beta testing.

Mutaahh

Netherlands859 Posts

September 02 2009 23:38 GMT

#25

What an awesome read!

Is there any good yt vid, about this 1 hatch-queen?

After this read, i think a nerf is needed... but who know's maybe the P and T have a secret strength early game.

crate

United States2474 Posts

September 02 2009 23:40 GMT

#26

Hopefully something will change by release, either someone figuring out why 1hat queen isn't imba or the queen getting fixed if it is.

Sort of hoping for the second personally since it seems there is zero decision making as far as how to use the queen's energy goes anyway

Archerofaiur

United States4101 Posts

September 02 2009 23:45 GMT

#27

Can you tell us about the Obelisk?

Motiva

United States1774 Posts

September 02 2009 23:46 GMT

#28

Really good read yo

Even if it's not totally overpowered, I would like to see some change that makes builds other than 1hatch Queen just as viable

aqui

Germany1023 Posts

September 02 2009 23:49 GMT

#29

On September 03 2009 08:38 talismania wrote:
I imagine that Spawn Larvae is deliberately OP right now... Blizzard in the past has repeatedly said how they tend to make new abilities and units initially too powerful in order to encourage their use, and then pare them back over time as needed. Given this report and corroborating accounts, I can easily see Blizzard scaling back Spawn Larvae in terms of either mana cost, refresh time, or # of larvae produced after a few weeks of serious beta testing.

In an earlier build i played in cologne the injection would just create 3 drones and even then it seemed overpowered. Apparently they did not see it back then, even further overpowering it at the later blizzcon build.

uSiN

United States208 Posts

September 02 2009 23:58 GMT

#30

I wasn't really excited about SC2 until after reading this article. Great writeup and wants me to play SC2 already.

I am pretty sure if this is a problem Blizzard will "fix" it in the Beta whenever that is starting. I have faith in Blizzard for a good game.

FabledIntegral

United States9232 Posts

September 03 2009 00:01 GMT

#31

I still don't understand why they can't just either have the queen require gas to build, or have "inject larvae" as a tech to research at the hatchery (or even potentially lair). Thus the queen would still be viable to hold off rushes but the inject larvae ability would be more midgame, and you wouldn't have to worry so much about early game balance.

Mykill

Canada3402 Posts

September 03 2009 00:02 GMT

#32

dayum!
looks like 1hatch play can win all MUs...
from your strats zerg sounds imba
try beating SC2 Bonjwa david kim with that

ArvickHero

10387 Posts

September 03 2009 00:08 GMT

#33

You should've challenged David Kim to a Bo5 with that build. I have extreme doubts that Blizzard even knows how overpowered 1 Hatch hydra is, and that most of them are even decent players themselves :l Maybe this is a sign they should hire new playtesters..

ReketSomething

United States6012 Posts

September 03 2009 00:12 GMT

#34

This is such an awesome SC2 article! So in depth and a lot about zerg! =)

Nal_rAwr

United States2611 Posts

September 03 2009 00:12 GMT

#35

this was a very good article one of the best i've read in a long while imo

fanatacist

10319 Posts

September 03 2009 00:12 GMT

#36

I agree whole heartedly. Larva inject was simply monstrous. If you had the presence of mind to do it on every hatch late game, you could be at 200/200 with like 70 larva on 6 hatches. You exchange armies, then you rebuild it 5 times faster than the enemy. It's destructive.

Vasoline73

United States7801 Posts

September 03 2009 00:14 GMT

#37

Lol I wish I could have seen the WTF LOL reactions to all the busts 5 min into the game. I for one know that even reading about it makes me laugh at the ridiculousness of expanding, putting down a bunker with 4 marines in it and watching 25+ hydraling stream into my base lol

Kazius

Israel1456 Posts

September 03 2009 00:20 GMT

#38

These things will get sorted out sooner or later - that's what betas are for!

Anyways, did you guys try proxy rax/gate builds in order to snipe the queen early on?