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As for me, my next target is Koshi as of right now. But, I will have to do some leg work.
Lol auto corrected it to keg work. Might have to do that too.
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On March 15 2024 13:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2024 13:36 iamperfection wrote:On March 15 2024 13:35 Vivax wrote:
6 v 3 tomorrow
If there‘s traitor 5 v 4 lylo
fun it dosnt work that way I hope it doesn‘t. Jealous is auto might as well just shitpost tomorrow
If you think scum!Jealous spent 3 cycles* voting for a 1 for 1 with CopCake you need to find an adult.
*caveat being I switched from Cop to Oats.
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On March 15 2024 11:29 Vivax wrote:
Jealous can you do self-wagon analysis? If you know your alignment you should be able to discern where the mafia is somewhat?
Because it's TvT, I don't think there is much analysis to be done to be honest. I was hoping that there would be some pattern to how votes moved throughout the day, but I am becoming more and more convinced that scum just mixed themselves in well in between townie waves of votes. Furthermore, because of the rapidly changing wagons yesterday, some people have been on just about every wagon, which makes it even more difficult.
Notable exceptions:
1. Palmar never jumped on my wagon.
2. JAT never jumped on CopCake.
Overall, because of the rampant tomfoolery, I think most of the votes are NAI. However, if I had to guess and going by my prior reads, I'd say most of the scum is on me. In my mason chat with DP, I mentioned that I feel like I might just be a useful idiot for scum, but I would think that when presented with the option of lynching either me or Cop, most sane individuals would choose to lynch me because I am actually invested in playing and make more posts that make more sense. So, I think it has to be between Palmar, Koshi, JAT, and Rels at the moment.
Previous analysis would point to Koshi, but I am starting to think that Rels' clean play in the first few days as more indicative than I previously did. I'll have to dive both to decide which I think is more likely to be scum at this point, but I am fairly sure there is at least one between the two of them.
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Should have been CopCake wagon like point 2, I'm hung over and I fucked up.
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On March 16 2024 02:14 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2024 02:11 Vivax wrote:On March 16 2024 01:02 Jealous wrote:
Notable exceptions:
1. Palmar never jumped on my wagon. ??? he literally ended on your wagon. Maybe the plan in the discord wasn't to.
Iamp confirmed town for me for trying to find the most charitable interpretation of my fuck up.
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On March 16 2024 02:23 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2024 02:21 Jealous wrote:On March 16 2024 02:14 iamperfection wrote:On March 16 2024 02:11 Vivax wrote:On March 16 2024 01:02 Jealous wrote:
Notable exceptions:
1. Palmar never jumped on my wagon. ??? he literally ended on your wagon. Maybe the plan in the discord wasn't to. Iamp confirmed town for me for trying to find the most charitable interpretation of my fuck up. what im saying the same thing as vivax
Iamp confirmed town for correcting me here.
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On March 16 2024 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Because I don't think what you did is a 1 for 1. It was just a convenient tunnel if you are mafia.
In the world where I am scum and get lynched for pushing for a CopCake ML, then that's a 1 for 1, no?
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On March 16 2024 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2024 03:13 Jealous wrote:On March 16 2024 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Because I don't think what you did is a 1 for 1. It was just a convenient tunnel if you are mafia. In the world where I am scum and get lynched for pushing for a CopCake ML, then that's a 1 for 1, no? Yeah, but why would you assume that you get lynched for pushing 1 mislynch alone?
I guess because I thought it would look really bad on me, but in retrospect it just looks like I'm really stupid, which I seem to be proving over and over in the past 24 hours.
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On March 16 2024 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2024 10:43 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 15 2024 10:40 Rels wrote:On March 15 2024 10:38 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 15 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:On March 15 2024 10:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 15 2024 10:04 iamperfection wrote:
maybe we just lynch cake and pick up play next cycle. She has to be dealt with in some way and we will know 100% what happened in ve cop with rels talking to me right near the hammer.
It will clear up the thread and just be good for a purity mindset. Lets make her wish come true. I still believe now after the mason that she is just a depressed Townie. On March 15 2024 10:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
I really feel bad about voting her, while seeing her finally as Town. But she doesn´t fell happy here anymore and she is self voting as well. So what else could we do? Let her be? And vote for your scumread? lol Opportunistic mindset from DMB, following DP/iam so I should vote you?! like just a wasted single vote on you? How does that help Town? Interesting post. So in your worldview, both Jealous and Palmer are town? There is no good option for a vote? Yes I Townread Palmar Jealous is scummy for me but not enough for a vote. Still thinking about rather vote CC (who wished do die in the mason) and hope she is lonly treator and tired of non stop selfdefending instead of depressed town. I really dislike this post. Before this dmb called cake town and basically advocated for a mercy kill. That alone I could have bought. But the overjustification in the quoted post just looks like mafia to me. If she is mafia with jealous this is absolute classic play. He is scummy but not scummy enough to vote him. Instead she votes cake. But also feels the need to include some kind of weird justification of a potential traitor so it does not look like she is blatantly lynching a townread.
This post is less than an hour later and she says "you don't post this as scum" about me:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=443#8848
Then the very next post she buckles under the tiniest bit of pushback on her read:
On March 15 2024 11:51 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2024 11:38 Rels wrote:On March 15 2024 11:36 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 15 2024 11:33 Rels wrote:On March 15 2024 11:31 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 15 2024 11:28 Rels wrote:On March 15 2024 11:25 die_meatbaby wrote:
I WOULD HAVE VOTE YOU OVER HER ANYTIMES. But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.
Dropping the "CopCake told me" stuff, but this though I don't see it. Can you explain further? you were not a wagon. Should I just let my vote on you and waste it, when I can make differnce with just one fucking vote? I want and really hope that she will join a future game and if she wish do die then pls fucking let her die before she never joins again for feeling so unhappy in this game. Sorry are you a player controlled by ai bots?? that would explain why you have emotion like a sheldon cooper and the jackpot Filter ?????????? Can you expand on this sentence?
But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.
Why did you think that? I had the opposite reaction, and I wasn't the only one He did not ask do die. Second On March 15 2024 09:07 Jealous wrote:On March 14 2024 09:22 Jealous wrote:Did a quick dive on Palmar before I have to head out again. Based on D1 alone, I think he basically has to be town. I'll explain my thinking in the form of questions: 1. Would scum!Palmar immediately bus scum!Oats and scum!TTS practically out the gate?
2. Would scum!Palmar go along with town sentiment to elect Vivax mayor instead of what he claims is his preference, which is to lynch him for the claim?To make an addendum to #2, if we believe what Palmar is saying about wanting to lynch Vivax for the claim, I think the only world in which scum!Palmar simply gives up and lets Vivax have the election without offering resistance is if it's scum!Palmar and scum!Vivax, and if it's scum!Vivax then it basically has to be scum!DP and they bussed TTS. So, I think this is practically impossible. Therefore, I think based on this foundation, scum!Palmar is incredibly unlikely to me at this juncture. I'll refine further when I get back but this is what I have so far. Quotes for reference, non-exhaustive list (he makes other posts re: Vivax running for mayor, Oats, etc): + Show Spoiler +On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote:So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about. OatsmasterBoth initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this: Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing. Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town. Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives? I don't think pushing for it actually does anything. You don’t seem to even want to be mayor There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor". It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything. VisceraEyesPart of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read. But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him. Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game. I have zero interest in lynching VE today. DMBSo I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 05 2024 06:13 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 06:10 Palmar wrote:
Good morning, I see we're up to a casual 60+ pages. Where did you wake up from??? It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about? Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game. She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though. But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed. On March 05 2024 10:07 Palmar wrote:
If I was less lazy I would basically force everyone into either voting vivax mayor or voting to lynch him. Fencesitting on a blue claim is just bad.
I haven’t read his filter but my instinct is to mayor Vivax. On March 05 2024 22:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 22:37 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 22:36 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 22:31 Palmar wrote:
So thoughts on Vivax
1) His claim is dumb as shit and he shouldn't do it as town or mafia.
2) He did claim so we work with what we got
3) He didn't hide behind his claim which points to townie, he posted like 6 pages since that claim, so whatever the point was with his claim at least it wasn't "I'll just claim this and chill"
4) He is actually trying. Now I know I was wrong last game when I lynched him for not trying, but I still think there is merit in that kind of read with Vivax
In conclusion, I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, so I'm just gonna vote him for mayor.
There's also the completely stupid reason that absolutely no one seems to be calling him mafia, [/]and a bunch of people call him town but don't want to vote him as mayor. That's an indicator (admittedly a terrible one) of his sort of general standing within the town. It's like a minor town point.
That solves that problem for me.
I honestly don't feel like I know enough about the game to direct Vivax' lynch. Maybe I'll gather enough info today to help though. I think, I said, he can do this as mafia. Oh he can, what Vivax lacks in brains he has in balls. I just don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is. Like make a case on him if you think this is wrong. That's a false dichotomy. You don't have to think he is mafia in order to prefer someone else as mayor. You don't have to, I'm not your mom. But it's still stupid. Like it or not, by claiming Vivax made the game about himself. The objectively correct play as town here is to lynch him. That is literally the best play. But we've decided not to do that and I kinda think that's the right call. Essentially we assume Vivax is bad town and not mafia. If that's the case he has a very, very strong power role and we think he's town, so we just make him mayor. I really can't think of why we would not do one or the other if we're playing logically. We can always force him to kill whoever we want dead, he's not without responsibility as mayor. On March 05 2024 23:05 Palmar wrote:
Dumbest scumread ever is that TTS just casually assumed he'd be alive by day 4 or something.
Also even talking about a random voting stage like we're some plebeian third world mafia site is pretty scummy.
But he's done nothing so there's no read. Good policy lynch though. Going further on into D1, Palmar had some good reads. Sheeped Sandro. Outlook positive on VE (did mention they "looked at little worse" eventually though). But, they haven't all been consistent. He pulled back on Oats being bad a bit. He also thought marv was looking scummy, too. So, more of a mixed bag than my early analysis showed. Example:On March 06 2024 06:56 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:53 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:48 Koshi wrote:On March 06 2024 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Uuuh, exciting. Is it? I think it is. The post itself is disappointing though. Smells like desperation and OMGUS. hahaha. Yeah. It's a big nothing burger.
It's a "when I die post"
You can ignore it for now.
I'm going to be so mad if marv is alive by day 4 after this shit.
Like he can lynch me, but he KNOWS he should not be doing that unless he has a really good reason to, which he doesn't. His lynch list at EOD1 isn't looking too hot: On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote:
This is just random and for post-game purposes.
We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).
1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question
2) TTS - Complete inactivity
3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia
4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why
But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad. Final list post isn't great, too. Oats is now a TR. So maybe it was fake pressure all along? Still SRing TTS though, but that's not exactly gold-star-worthy play at this point IMO. But does he bus this hard on D2? On March 06 2024 19:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 14:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Vig shot on TTS btw.
This is a good call.
Wonder what happened to this: On March 06 2024 19:16 Palmar wrote:
I hate pretty much all of your takes CopCake This didn't age well, feels like a retaliatory SR: On March 07 2024 00:31 Palmar wrote:
So like preemptively, I'm trying to come to a conclusion why rayn wouldn't open up my filter and ctrl+f Vivax while shouting in caps at me and I just really can't think of one.
Secondly I already explained to him as confirmed town (last game) how I differ in my approach to people's alignment. I don't tie them together like that.
raynpelikoneet
Nested quote from rayn here about how Palmar's progression on VE was scummy is interesting in retrospect. Palmar feels like he is just all over the place now, this is what sowing chaos looks like to me, especially given what was said before, especially about sandroba: On March 07 2024 01:02 Palmar wrote:
I think it's possible that marv, rayn and sandroba are mafia (varying degrees of possibility) and I don't care who masoned who. Still, can't deny that he is pushing hard on the Oats wagon. I think scum!Palmar would be content to be more half-hearted about it and sheep a VE vote relatively quietly when it was gaining momentum. Notable that Koshi was one of the driving forces for the VE lynch, but I'm starting to understand that this is just Koshi things (not that I like it though). --[b]Intermission-- So far, everything from the mid point to the 3/4 mark of Palmar's filter is just a big fat nothingburger. Granted there was some drunkposting in the middle and I really sympathize with that, but it was almost all entirely lazy one-liners. Definitely "coasting" until some semblance of pressure mounted on him: On March 12 2024 22:09 Palmar wrote:On March 12 2024 21:54 justanothertownie wrote:
But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy. Yeah no worries. It's actually kinda fun. The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind. The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly. Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread. The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try. That won't be the case if I'm the target. Instead what ended up happening is he just posted reasons why others were scum, so it felt like just fulfilled his town!Palmar obligations and went back to relative chill hard mode. I don't think that should be too difficult to do as scum, especially since just about everyone has some unfortunate/wrong/bad-looking stuff in their filters to latch onto, read in the most negative way, or misrep. So, I don't think that his activity today gives him all too many townie points because in the end he is just hopping from one wagon to the next, either as scum or as town for scum. -- "Conclusion"-- I think that Palmar is pretty hard to put a finger on. Did he type a lot of things? Yes. Were some of them good-sounding? Assuredly so. Does he have strong convictions, drive, and does he ever put himself into any significant danger? No. I haven't had the chance to filter JAT recently so I'll probably do that next while out, but I won't make a post like this. If I had to go off of my overall gut feeling throughout the game, I'd say that they were even more wishy-washy than Palmar, but I don't want to discredit JAT before I actually do the work, so take that with a heavy grain of salt. When done with JAT's filter, I will just insert them into my current list of scumminess (left is most town, right is most scum): Iamp > Palmar > Koshi > Cake DP and Vivax are not present because I am still operating in conftown! world for both of them, similar for DMB but obviously much less so to keep it clean and easy. PS: It seems I fucked up the bold tags somewhere but fuck it, it's legible. You don´t post this as mafia. Like come on that is townie under pressure Really disagree. Posting a big post under pressure near the deadline is not townie specific Okey yes then maybe I should have taken this post more seriously and sorry that I didn´t get how scummy that actually was. But I only had one thing on my mind and that is more personally important than J at the moment. This game takes a lot of time, nerves and energy. If you don't enjoy it anymore. No more energy and always on the verge of being lynched but not lynched. If you always have to defend yourself for 30 pages and therefore can't really try to find scum, then it's really depressing. I want Cake to come back in future games and not give up playing here. I just wanted the best for her, even if it wasn't the best for Town. I rather lose as Town as losing a player for ever Hope you're doing better in obs <3
That's scummy af.
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On March 16 2024 07:42 iamperfection wrote:
Jealous if your town couldn't dmb just lurk?
They lynch town either way, CopCake's flip makes me look bad, she got the opportunity to call me scummy to boot, and she wasn't even the one that hammered CopCake. I think it works out pretty well in scum!DMB's favor.
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On March 16 2024 09:19 Vivax wrote:
Enough lynchbait for this entire game Jealous.
It was hard enough to argue in favour of VE and Cop but dmb is off limits before you.
So what do you make of that series of posts I shared by DMB?
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On March 16 2024 09:33 DarthPunk wrote:
I think DMB is out of her scum range jealous FWIW.
In other words that is a totally normal read progression for her?
DMB: "I think this post is townie."
Someone else: "No, it's scummy."
DMB: "Oh you're right, it's scummy."
???
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On March 16 2024 09:54 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2024 09:35 die_meatbaby wrote:I filterd Cc On March 13 2024 16:04 CopCake wrote:On March 13 2024 15:57 DarthPunk wrote:
FFS cake are you scum claiming here again.
Like Koshi is your mafia read and you are asking why he was not killed by mafia. No, the answer here is Koshi didnt get killed because he is mafia. Why is it so difficult to understand me? Do i phrase things weirdly or something? I am just asking you those questions to see if we go to the same conclusions. I will filter koshi again but first CC On March 14 2024 04:46 CopCake wrote:
Would be stupid of mafia koshi to push mafia palmar.
On March 14 2024 05:56 CopCake wrote:On March 14 2024 05:36 iamperfection wrote:
And I feel like you just went through koshis filter trying to find any inconsistency possible. Also not explaining why said inconsistency makes koshi mafia - Koshi says I am unreadable and then says he can read me, then even dares to say he tone reads me. - Koshi is like Oats I need to kill you and then says “yes, I was wrong about Oats” Oats also wanted to mayor Koshi. - He hardcore townreads DP but suspects Jacob??? Even when he claimed gunsmith? He even says “Is jacob even the gunsmith?” Post #4745 so you can see his reads before Is Jacob confirmed blue gunsmith? Because I also think he might be mafia. Bit if he is blue that is wrong ofc Like I said, if he hardcore reads DP as town, why is he questioning jacob? Like if he thinks DP is town, shouldnt he believe Jacob’s claim? - Many of his decisions are based on dead players: Marv would have liked, Sandro this, Rayn that. I didnt went with the eyes of: I must find scum in Koshi. I didnt like how he reacted to me being lynched then no then yes. Felt like he was trying to prepare the scenario of “I told you so”, which I know, it will happen because I am VT. There are more things quoted, and I am phoneposting atm. I dont think I am going to get on the computer because I am tired and almost midnight. If you think is worth to talk to me please do so. If you think my case is trash ignore me. fuck why didn´t I see that oats wanted to vote koshi as major On March 05 2024 02:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Mayor
raynpelikoneet (4): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet
Koshi (1): Koshi
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Vivax (0): raynpelikoneet
Not Voting (15): First both voting for themselfs I did not found him voting Koshi as mayjor as CC told us but he (lynch)vote out of nothing Koshi You look in his filter page 4. There is no reason explained why he votes Koshi. Like really nothing. On March 05 2024 04:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
##vote koshi few hours later he posts this and unvote Koshi. Since that time Koshi got a Townread from him. How is this a Townread and what fucking kind of play is this. On March 05 2024 06:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 05:53 Koshi wrote:
So I am on page 36 and I am going to call marv mafia.
and I am calling sandroba & rayn dummies for pushing the marv is town shit into this thread with literally nothing to back it up.
Fuck your shit.
town!marv is very capable to play this game and get mayor. He would be a good mayor and this game could be easy and fun.
The shit you 3 are doing is horrible and against town wincon. I also play against town wincon on purpose in previous games and marv was the one complaining and saying I shouldn't do it.
Well he is doing just that.
Now what mafia!marv would do this is an entire other story. And a very believable one.
I also dislike sandroba.
I probably like rayn but not enough to say he is for sure not mafia. But ok. I can work with him most likely. I do actually like this post from koshi And then that: On March 05 2024 10:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway here’s where I’m at
Town: koshi, iamp, rayn
Mafia: VE, jacob, He never explained the Townread on Koshi. But come on thats not a post where you gonna townread somebody or am I really this stupid???? This is by the way all on the same day. Oats filter page 4 and 5 and in between this quotes there are almost no posts or questions. This Townread from Oats on Koshi looks sus for me. Then I made my list post what was requested by Rels. My list posts are bad and always looks scummy. I still do not know who to make a non sus listpost and I am sorry for that. I will try to figure that out for future games. Rels was co hosting games where I was in and had always the same problem as soon as I had to make a list post i got votes on me. So rels asking for that, maybe remembering that from last games and make me do it. Oats started to make this votedmb shit now. On March 05 2024 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thinking about it more, that dmb list is terrible Town pls tell me that I am not goeing paranoid on Oats filter here! Jealous analyse this post for me please.
Minus the self-meta analysis, I like it. I was already pretty ambivalent about Koshi, but I'll have to skim his filter now to be sure.
As for what this post says about DMB, I like that too tbh. It seems like she's trying to tie strings together and point out inconsistencies, which I'm a fan of.
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On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 02:35 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m currently not looking outside my mason partners for mayor. Sandro is scummy though He’s townie. He has pursued me in the chat in a very townie way. Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb. Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16. Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves.
Lol what if DMB was right all along?
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On March 05 2024 05:14 Koshi wrote:People who ask mundane questions to end their first visit to the thread should be lynched and or shot. New to mafia playbook: First throw out some not fleshed out reads to pretend they are helping town. Secondly ask a question so the thread helps them be active and do something because they don't know what to do as mafia. Seen it too much. Should be red throughout the game unless miracle play happens.
WIFOM but does scum!Koshi go this hard against TTS so early into the game?
On the one hand, D1 so stakes are low, also creates distance. On the other, why even put them on full blast like this when there are other non-bus targets to discredit? It's not like scum!TTS is a prevalent narrative at this point.
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On March 16 2024 10:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2024 10:15 Vivax wrote:On March 16 2024 10:14 Rels wrote:On March 16 2024 10:09 Vivax wrote:
We know that many weren't killed for their reads at this point but if that was the driver for the NKs, Rels should be among them.
What's his NK history as town btw? When I started I was NK pretty often. Then it stopped happening, partly because my scum game is pretty good and partly because I became super lazy as town early game. I can't remember the last time I've been nk as town, I've been lynched or survived lately I think You had very good reads this game what's your current guess? I saw dmb but that doesn't scratch my itch. Palmar jealous dmb is my current team
This team makes no sense to me tbh.
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On March 05 2024 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:04 Vivax wrote:
So maybe I just have to accept the fact that if rayn and iamp are actually town like I had in mind earlier, they prefer to annoy the hell out of you instead of actually finding scum and cause a massive unhelpful distraction that makes me reconsider their alignments.
Either way, not helpful.
I still want to kill Trfel. That's where my head is at.
Going to hedge on sandro.
VE/MZ worth looking into more deeply imo.
But Trfel first. I'm not going to repeat the mistake of trying to kill multples. i am 100% with you. rayn marv tfrel can die. We shouldn't do tfrel first. rayn or marv. Let's go big.
Oof.
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On March 06 2024 07:35 Koshi wrote:
DP just stay the course on Hapa and Palmar.
If they are mafia or even 1 only, we get a lot of information. Lynching tfrel does not do that.
Palmar town is not horrible. Palmar mafia is great.
Hapa is a good shot. I am proud to be in a town that shoots idiots.
Big WIFOM for me here. Is this scum!Koshi just manufacturing a strong stance on a 4 town pile? Or is this town!Koshi not knowing anyone's alignment and genuinely going off of his own thoughts on the matter?
Really hard to say IMO.
Overall I think D1 Koshi was pretty strong though. Some tragically bad reads but overall *feel* I got was town. Definitely more so than his play during the middle of the game thus far IMO, he kinda fell off and got lazy and more crazy/Koshi, if memory serves.
I'm gonna stop filtering now because it's going OD slow, but I will finish up later, because let's be real, I'll probably be around given how Vivax has been pushing my scum case for the past 28 hours or so.
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On March 16 2024 10:51 Koshi wrote:
Oh. And the biggest thing on MZ is still his halleluyah moment on Oats.
What are hallelujah moments?
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