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On May 19 2023 07:28 Vivax wrote: Alles Gute/happy bday KOShi On May 19 2023 23:57 Grackaroni wrote: Happy birthday Koshi! thx ![]() On May 20 2023 03:59 Vivax wrote: + Show Spoiler + When mario left him for dead and falling down a ditch, Yoshi‘s intense feeling of betrayal made him convert to Judaism which saved his life since Adolf didn‘t want him in hell, so he kicked him out and he landed in purgatory instead. Nowadays known as Belgium. Thus he became Koshi and learned everything he could about chainsaws so one day he could exact his cold plated, kosher Koshi‘s revenge. Funny because I work for the world top-selling chainsaw company. | ||
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On May 23 2023 18:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: - Slam can spam now two pages by himself instead of one - Koshi is even better D1, "random" gutreads always good, almost always mafia - Idk what else, i didn't roll town for almost two years i think ![]() the pressure is real. Copcake was a good find last time. But we rarely play so not sure if it was luck or my raw and vast intellect & deduction skills. | ||
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On May 23 2023 19:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I never doubt your skills, you found Rels too. Just to have some other dummies to prevent from lynching them for some time. The buddying is working. ❤ | ||
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On May 23 2023 19:31 Vivax wrote: Yeah I'm hiding in the kitchen-livingroom while you hide in the bedroom. Where's my morning mojito, miss bartender? Koshi dared to challenge the Chez rule first, could make him town, or we apply the rule. Let's see. I forgot about the Chez rule. Is it the first to call for Chez his lynch or to call him mafia? Because I am advocating for him to be our placeholder vote. | ||
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On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote: The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here. Just so you know. There is a voting thread. As a welcome gift in your first game here, you can cast the first vote in this game. Personally I would vote Vivax. He got you into this game, only fair you vote him out. Balanced. | ||
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On May 23 2023 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think she got 2 out of 2 wrong though. And? She thinks you 2 are mafia, she can vote. | ||
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Also, Vivax and rayn aren't posting together anymore. They probably discussed this on Discord after you caught them. | ||
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lol protecting mafia is a towntell for you. So if he flips mafia you are town. Good good. PS: The meta question pinged me. | ||
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Can you vote first so I can vote marv after you? It is very unfriendly of you to not accept my gift of voting first. | ||
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On May 23 2023 20:15 DarthPunk wrote: Ok die meat baby is a hard town read at this point fwiw. Not sure. Was there TMI that she and Vivax are different alligned? | ||
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Yes. | ||
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On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote: I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too Why not carry Vivax to a town victory? Feels so opposite and the italic part reads as justification for being opposite. Can she really feel so strong on Mafia!Vivax? | ||
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Or you go full Darth Vader but with slick and evul moves. Not this you posted together and also on discord stuff. | ||
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On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote: ##Vote: marv | ||
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On May 23 2023 21:01 die_meatbaby wrote: Koshi could be mafia as well but I am not quite sure yet... I am waiting and watching before voting on him. I think Koshi is pretty town. | ||
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On May 23 2023 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Koshi, if ms die_antwood is mafia you think; marv mafia? dp town? vivax town? ve? yes | ||
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On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote: I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway ![]() If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me. After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have: 1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere 2) a cautious playstyle 3) a small filter | ||
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On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Happy 40k!!! | ||
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On May 23 2023 21:22 marvellosity wrote: I said I wasn’t going to get into this but as you all know I can’t help myself. 3. I’m actually conscious of the fact I already have quite a large filter. I’m going to have points (assuming I survive long enough) where I’m unable to be too active, so it’s in my best interests that the thread doesn’t explode too much. And I’m too good at making large threads. I think I am bang on that if town make a concerted effort to discern meatbaby’s alignment early on, that will be a good result for town. Because I do not understand why it is in future you his best interest to have less than half a page filter at this point on D1. I will translate your answer to: 3 reads to me as "I am mafia and my plan is too fade away when I NK'ed all the good people. So it is best for me to post as little as possible now to make it more believable later." | ||
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On May 23 2023 22:01 marvellosity wrote: It’s a fair interpretation so I shan’t argue! thank you for your cooperation | ||
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On May 23 2023 15:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: My work week ends tomorrow 10 am so i am also around for EOD1. D2 i am dead or conf town anyways so i dont care about later atm ^^ On May 23 2023 18:33 Vivax wrote: Tell that to my ass + Show Spoiler + I don't even know why it hurts so much after a bit of woodchopping Nice to see you all again! Good thing you stick to TL when it comes to me then. I have seen unimaginable things while offsite. Depends, really. It's not that spammy, but you can hear a few joints creaking here and there. ಠ_ಠ On May 23 2023 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I gotz eyed by Vivax, uh-oh... On May 23 2023 18:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: - Slam can spam now two pages by himself instead of one - Koshi is even better D1, "random" gutreads always good, almost always mafia - Idk what else, i didn't roll town for almost two years i think ![]() On May 23 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh i have been lurking all the time i just didnt have anything to say. x amounts more of rayn posts On May 23 2023 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: A) he doesnt actually want to lynch marv, just pressure because it would: , but.. B) he doesnt want to pressure marv either Oo On May 23 2023 19:16 Vivax wrote: Thread volatility no one can handle while sober + Show Spoiler + ![]() Rayn pinged me as a bit short breathed vibe-wise, but I'd rather not latch onto any reads this early On May 23 2023 19:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Care to elaborate why though? I don't agree with a lot in the content of the post but i have a similar conclusion about DP's alignment atm. I would rather call him mafia (as i would you as well), than town. Vivax has 2 posts in the first 7-8 hours in this game. rayn a lot. I dont even understand the posting at the same moment thing. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh We should stop talking about this. Let her do other things. But sense it makes none. | ||
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On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote: Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? | ||
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On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote: It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... nope | ||
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Mafia Vivax is not scary at all. | ||
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On May 23 2023 23:37 LightningStrike wrote: Been to long man! My last game was in 2020 how you been? Life is good. How are you? I remember a hospital visit back in 2020? 🤔 | ||
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On May 23 2023 23:52 LightningStrike wrote: Been doing good I been trying to finish University but still got a few semesters left and no i didn't need a hospital visit if I remembered? You might of been thinking of someone else unless I forgot. Hmm maybe Onegu. | ||
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Ah true. Marv probably told her in Discord. Brb checking their posting times. | ||
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On May 24 2023 00:15 Koshi wrote: Ah true. Marv probably told her in Discord. Brb checking their posting times. Checked it. They post at different times and ignore each other to make it less obvious they are plotting on Discord. | ||
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On May 24 2023 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you don want to lynch EITHER of your scumreads, but instead follow a total newbie even onto one of your townreads? On May 24 2023 03:47 marvellosity wrote: So you’d follow a newbie you are pretty sure is townie over a vet (yourself) who you presumably know is townie? Okay VE Did you guys plan this mindmeld in mafia!Discord? | ||
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I am saving the last pages for work. Because it is late and I dont want to think. ##unvote ##Vote: mebaby Tbh I am not super duper happy with Vivax I think but this scumread from mebaby is totally insane. Like Vivax didnt even post a lot. Twice. And rayn was more active and was in the thread at the same time. I can only imagine this is some weird crossover shit from irl mafia where the mafia has to fake reads in a fast pace game. | ||
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On May 24 2023 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote: Your loss. Koshi town for like, very obviously trying to understand DMB point and then obviously getting it and joking about it later. Koshi if I try and lynch marv today do I have your sword? Because everyone's calling me scum for wanting to lynch Onegu with you and now he won't even watch my video. Meh. I hope everybody knows the game started. Because I wasnt told and was lucky to check it. Could have easily missed 24 hours. I read some things about 1 out of dp and marv being mafia? Was that you? I will reread tomorrow. | ||
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On May 24 2023 05:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Bullshit. I'm going to work then. ![]() I can always lynch marv but the mindmeld with rayn was a total win. That is so hard to do as mafia. | ||
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On May 24 2023 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote: rayn: The sky is blue marv: The sky is blue koshi: :OOOOOOOOOOOO 🤣😅 Tis true but it also involved critical thinking about what you wrote and I appreciate that more than a bartender having sass as a newbie. Her omgus on me is the only slight towntell I want to give her because I can understand a newbie going "hey this guys calls me mafia and I am town so that is suspect and I will look into that more" | ||
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I need somebody smart analyzing that. | ||
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On May 24 2023 06:24 die_meatbaby wrote: Sorry was working last few hours... You really think they going to make a new girl directly mafia? I heard most of you weren't playing in years in this game is like legendary rematch after years... you think they taking the chance to ruin this game and make a new member (who never played) a mafia? It is random. Random.org and then roll 3 times between the participants. | ||
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Sharing is caring and can help us read you better. | ||
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So this 1 mafia in marv/dp theory is not so horrible. | ||
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On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote: Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me ![]() Ok. So the people who gave marv a hard time because they were afraid of him being mafia are not townreads of you? Because that was most likely rayn, dp and me? Or who was it? Because it makes no sense that mafia would be afraid of marv rolling mafia. Also Chezinu and Sentinel havent posted at all yet. You can check player specific filters in the OP. | ||
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On May 24 2023 07:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I will have to reread DarthPunk, I remember seeing some stuff I liked but I'll give it a second pass. I know marv is trying to give off the impression of soaking up knowledge but I would really like to see some actual rain before I give him credit for his strategy because until then I'm not buying it. If you're thinking in the same direction as VE with the 1 town 1 scum, what do you think of him not wanting to lynch into that group D1? I can understand his point of wanting to lynch inactives on d1. Him befriending you indicates some sort of lost townie needing a friend. | ||
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On May 24 2023 07:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: The bolded part is bad since I can easily see a brand new scum player using that as a reason to defend themselves before learning that the roles are randomized. This is the kind of stuff that's made me go back and forth with my read of meatbaby so far. Why was mebaby bolded green if she is a back and forth? | ||
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On May 24 2023 07:51 die_meatbaby wrote: First of al his testicals are mine now no matter if in rl or online. I think he would not scumread me ever, because he would be scared to cook and feed the snake every day on his own.. Ok. So him being meek is NAI ( not allignment indicative). Did you see me proof that Vivax and rayn didnt leave together and that rayn was active continiously and Vivax only made 2 posts? So rayn being there when Vivax made those 2 posts is just a coincidence? And how did you "feel" that they were hiding and posting together when you were sleeping at that time? | ||
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On May 24 2023 08:09 die_meatbaby wrote: yeah and I know you guys played this game sence years but and you have different techniques to play, and you already played with each other and know how they played. I just try my own style to get a win for als Townies But still i feel not good about Vivax in the game he is just to quiet to be town and he just write safe phrases. Like he realyy suspect for me I know. It is hard to come into this new and not knowing us while we have played for years together. I just want you to know that I am lynching you for TMI. So please feel honored if you are town. It is just beyond brilliant that you see 3 people attacking marv and read that as townies attacking marv for his superior mafia playstyle. To me that reads as mafia with TMI ( too much information) seeing 3 townies attacking another townie and trying to make sense of it and explaining like you did. It is, like I said, beyond brilliant that you deducted this as a newbie. Especially because you dont read the people attacking marv as town and not have a strong townread on marv. You could have deducted so many different things but you go with the scenario everybody is town being afraid of town!marv being potential mafia. So dont be mad at me. If you are town I have only mad respect. | ||
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On May 24 2023 08:25 Koshi wrote: I know. It is hard to come into this new and not knowing us while we have played for years together. I just want you to know that I am lynching you for TMI. So please feel honored if you are town. It is just beyond brilliant that you see 3 people attacking marv and read that as townies attacking marv for his superior mafia playstyle. To me that reads as mafia with TMI ( too much information) seeing 3 townies attacking another townie and trying to make sense of it and explaining like you did. It is, like I said, beyond brilliant that you deducted this as a newbie. Especially because you dont read the people attacking marv as town and not have a strong townread on marv. You could have deducted so many different things but you go with the scenario everybody is town being afraid of town!marv being potential mafia. So dont be mad at me. If you are town I have only mad respect. Best case. I also thought of something else while driving to work that I need to check. | ||
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On May 24 2023 13:31 Alakaslam wrote: Ok wait then what did I miss? Why is there 2 onegu votes and like some Koshi vote? Not "some" Koshi vote. This vote is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering— | ||
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It's way better than expected. Disappointing. rayn so smart. | ||
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She deducts a situation where 3 to her unknown allignments attack another unknown allignment as people attacking a townie due to mad respect for a previous scum game. Which indicates that she reads the situation as towns going for each other throaths otherwise she would deduct something like marv is town because out of these 3 attackers 2 are mafia so ergo the person attacked is most likely town. And funny thing is. She kinda had me in "need to look at", rayn as 100% mafia and you as null. So it does not compute that she says " new game guys, no need to be hateful that marv beat you last time" | ||
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On May 24 2023 17:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: LS should maybe himself answer about the Vivax read, other than that i don't think there is anything that looks other than townie from him. Like the dude is always about 95% of meta in his reads, right or wrong, he still does that every time. I can understand him not having a read on mebaby just because there is no meta to go on with. I mean like if someone seriously claimed they have a cop check on N0 in this game LS would probably go if they have ever been a cop before and checked anyone N0 before coming to conclusion that they have to be lying. :D I think this is actually one of the very rare cases where, if mebaby is mafia, she spewed Vivax town. The tinfoil is that Vivax his "relax guys she is just trolling" is rooted in truth because the ridiculous "YOU CAN NEVER WIN AGAINST ME VIVAX" spiel she did was in fact trolling as they are mafia together. As you know. My tinfoil is always strapped on firmly. | ||
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On May 24 2023 17:07 DarthPunk wrote: There are context clues. What you were posting about with Rayn being 3/3 or whatever. I can’t say I’m a fan of the tendency for people to be deliberately vague that has seemingly developed over the years. His 3 mafia reads? Mebaby slam and MZ? Then add Vivax, Onegu and Sentinel and you have 3 out of 6 being mafia. But now I see I forgot Chez so it is 3/7 | ||
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On May 24 2023 17:12 DarthPunk wrote: I don’t think slam is mafia but thanks for clarifying. Btw off topic: what part of Belgium are you from? my partner is from Antwerp and I really love visiting belgium. My mother now lives in central Antwerp. I always went to school between Antwerp and Brussels in a city called Mechelen. And now I bought a house closer to my wife her family close to Brussels, on the Flemish side. So central Belgium Flemish side. | ||
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On May 24 2023 17:18 DarthPunk wrote: I really hate this Ls town read stuff. He has barely posted about the game. Either you have all developed hyper accurate meta reads on each other because of small player pool. And these never change or are meta gamed. or it’s just bad habits. I’m leaning towards the latter. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On May 24 2023 17:39 marvellosity wrote: Can we get some MZ discussion up in here? Promise we can still talk about MB too… MZ is the most obvious mafia misslynch if he is town. Everybody is going to agree so no need to discuss it. rayn said MZ is mafia, I said MZ is mafia, Vivax said it, you said it. Like... What else do you need? | ||
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On May 24 2023 18:22 die_meatbaby wrote: No still not happy about rayn but could change depends on his next votes And if you try to fuck me up more i will find Koshi´s terraium and pet his snake + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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On May 24 2023 18:23 DarthPunk wrote: Nice. I love Brussels. I actually love the beer in Belgium too. We bring westmalle and duvel back every time we visit ( once a year roughly) Good choices ![]() I am pretty sure you could drink a different Belgian beer each day for a year and never be disappointed. Crazy how many we have and there are some gems between them based on what you like. | ||
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This anti thread & anti town behaviour is icing on the cake. | ||
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Yes. Nothing changed except she threw a tantrum and can now also be policy lynched on top of the greatest case of all time. | ||
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And he flipped mafia bonder D1. Something actually saucy | ||
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You guys are so gullible or just mafia. Holy mozes. She reads rayn and vivax mafia for the dumbest reason - gets a pass cuz new - She meta reads a situation perfectly if all protagonist are town even though the persons in this situation are mafia in her head. -She gets some flak finally- She invents a reason why she meta read like she did "research and reading filters" - she gets a pass for trying- lolololololololol fml | ||
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On May 24 2023 19:34 die_meatbaby wrote: Not shure yet. I got out from the first pages here that some of you Koshi and forgot the second one (will check later again) that you where directly a little scared of him. Scared like he scamed you guys in an old game. I checkd his profil and games where he was in i was right and Koshi answerd that the fact i just got in my head was true so he won in an old game. he like switch for me. He´s silend and write less than you or koshi. writing less is for shure more safe as mafia and i would write less as well. But right now i don´t want to make an opinion on him, because he not that super active. If if he almost ignores my random bullshit and just don´t give a fuck seems suspicious. Because he didn´t got triggerd. I wanted to trigger you all, to see who is town. becauce nonsence trigger all kind of people and function very well and easy at the same time. You and Koshi but so much engerie to understand my nonseense writing, meanse you are town. Hope this helps you made up 100% | ||
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The other person must be rayn or DP and they were not town for her at that time. So she went to check some magical previous game in which she found the exact scenario in which mafia!marv owned us and we are still butthurt about it and she writes "new game guis don't be buuthurt" which fucking indicates she reads the attackers as town. | ||
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On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote: end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit. did you fucking fact check this DP??? Or are you just being lazy mafia? I won that game as mafia and marv was owned On October 15 2016 06:01 beentheredonethat wrote: Endgame scott31337, Vanilla Town, has been lynched. The mafia is victorious! Congratulations to a flawless victory to... Oatsmaster (Roleblocker) justanothertownie (Goon) Koshi (Framer) A big thank you to my co-hosts, first of all Rels, and thanks to everyone who played and commented in obs QT! ![]() Observer QT Scum QT Both QTs are worth a read! On October 15 2016 08:01 Skynx wrote: Koshi your scumplay is about to reach Superbia levels of out-thereness ![]() On October 15 2016 08:25 Half the Sky wrote: gg wp scum......koshi....you're tearing it up. Reading your filters, it'd been hard to make a case on either you or JAT the way it was going, only thing noticable is that you weren't driving lynches like you normally do as town. But IDK that argument alone would have ever gotten you lynched esp before the lynchbait. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia FYI, next game up for signups will close Monday or Tuesday if you are up for a themed game. Other factors like Palmar and Marvellosity being afk for long times also nurtured the scum win but especially Koshi played a great game in my perception. Regarding justanothertownie: being the most active scum by far, I think he did a good job in driving a mislynch and averting lynch attempts that were aimed towards him. Still, having access to host QT, I think it would help jat to take a step back from the game and not be ad hom towards his teammates but that's just my impression. | ||
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blahblahblah I am afk till after lynch. | ||
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On May 24 2023 21:12 die_meatbaby wrote: Yeah I saw he didn't win, but you still going hard on him when you go through the posts their. Def. not lazy Who was going hard on marv? Nobody. On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote: It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... THIS DOES NOT COMPUTE WITH READING CRUISE MAFIA. SHE IS LYING 1) Shown potential TMI twice 2) Shiting up thread 3) Lying 4) trash reads that don't get updated when confronted | ||
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On May 24 2023 21:14 DarthPunk wrote: I didn't read the game if that is what you were asking, I checked if it was a game that marv played in. I don't think not reading the game causes me to be lazy, or mafia FWIW. This is the post right. You are saying that she said we were afraid of scum!marv and that this means that she implicated some extra information about alignments. But I also think she could be saying that we are holding a grudge from previous games as any alignment. It really isn't that clear to me. He scammed us as town???????????????????????????????? | ||
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She gets called out on X She says I read cruise mafia and people were angry at marv and that is why I wrote X When looking at it, it doesn't make any sense why she would write X after reading cruise mafia. DP and marv: "seems legit, super town, wouldn't lynch, effort was shown" | ||
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On May 24 2023 21:18 Vivax wrote: That was a good post about marv though. Mafia marv while less motivated always was a super tough lynch. I don‘t know how she would know that but in case of a genuine guess it was spot on. Probably from seeing him get pressured for no reason, which is also why I thought mb scum = marv town. Not uncommon that mafia go against the grain when they see a townie under pressure for what they know is nothing. Instead she says she made the read because she read cruise mafia in which marv was afk town and I won as mafia. So how does it compute that I am angry at marv for scamming me ??? Lies lies lies lies lies lies lies | ||
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On May 23 2023 21:16 Koshi wrote: I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me. After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have: 1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere 2) a cautious playstyle 3) a small filter | ||
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On May 24 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote: I agree with this… at no point Koshi did I indicate I suddenly thought MB was “super town” Yes. I potentially overstated it a bit. | ||
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On May 24 2023 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can someone explain to me what this is about? On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote: It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... The question is if what she wrote here is saying that marv scammed us means that marv was mafia and we were fooled. On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote: end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit. Then there is this. Which may or may not tie to her previous comment but here she says that in cruise some people were pissed of at marv. So I do 1+1 and tie both comments together and see the second comment as some sort of explanation why she made the first comment. Then I checked the cruise game. And the explanation doesn't hold water because marv wasn't even mafia that game and lost as inactive town. | ||
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On May 24 2023 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Which game is World Party mafia because i can't find it in marv's database entry? I checked the cruise game. I don't know. | ||
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On May 25 2023 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Why are you just randomly throwing suspicion on them, do you think they're not town? What purpose does this serve other than to do exactly what I accused you of doing yesterday which is muddle up the thread. My aggression from you stems from frustration because I know you good enough as a town player to have real reads at this point in the game and instead all you've got is a weak ass case against me which you're now defending with yet more WIFOM. I'm really left with no other conclusion that you're scum. Also your VE progression is terrible, going from "not suspicious" to "something's not right" without explaining what you think about it isn't right is just more of the constant baseless and vague accusations I've come to expect from you this game. I'm not really interested in reading any more posts by you unless they contain clear cases backed up with explanations to your thought process as to why you find someone scummy. I'm tired minimal effort. This is a pretty townie post regardless of marv his alignment. MZ is like dafuq dude I am town and I am all you got? | ||
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On May 25 2023 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened. Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him. Facts | ||
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On May 25 2023 03:43 marvellosity wrote: Do you have anything else on MZ town-wise. I’m fairly keen not to spend my time tunnelling a townie for however long if that is indeed the case. No sadly not. I don't think he is townie tbh. I just think he is such an obvious lynch that I don't know if he was mafia he would just open so badly we all gut read him mafia. | ||
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He is pretty ok now that I think of it. | ||
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On May 25 2023 04:04 marvellosity wrote: All I will say is that it didn’t feel like he was trying to figure me out when we were interacting. Although I am biased ![]() My brain was off when reading it and also skipped the VE interaction with him till later so again I can't be too sure. | ||
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On May 25 2023 04:06 die_meatbaby wrote: also can i get lynched 4 hours early so i am not getting out vodet by my bf for personal reasen on my birthday. I have already 3 votes so def. out or loss or what ever you guys mean with lynched after lynching you see just activ new townie who tried to play but never play with people who take things personal. This is the only thing i got out of this game so far. And i am not thinking V is mafia because I want to lynch him. I know how he plays differnt games. He acts to differnent to be town Happy birthday btw. I am somewhat sorry that I have to lynch you. Next game we play I will be able to place things better if you flip town here. Just drop your reads and I will take them into consideration as a confirmed townie after the flip. You can be sure Vivax will get a lot of heat next couple of days. So if you are sure. You can expect us to not just waste your effort from today. | ||
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On May 25 2023 04:12 marvellosity wrote: Meatbaby, can you vote someone not-Onegu? Yeah like Chezinu. Like I said from the start. Perfect placeholder. | ||
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On May 25 2023 04:17 Vivax wrote: Could do Chezinu. But just cause you are suggesting it and became some sort of bodhisattva of mafia on D1s according to last game. Let's be honest. Last game was most likely luck. I prefer somebody that posts and wants to try over this Chezinu any time. | ||
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On May 25 2023 04:18 die_meatbaby wrote: I would but I already voted its to late to unvote when i voted this on D1 You can vote as many times as you want. | ||
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On May 25 2023 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's me you and marv here and every fucking other soul disappeared when we were lynching mebaby and marv said if it comes to that he agrees. Why? Look. I want her flipped. The closer to deadline the more she changed her "fuck you all" attitude and started to post reasonable and asked town a couple times to not vote her out. Then as soon as I opened up to not get her lynched, she left while basically emotionally blackmailing town with the exact thing I was advocating for her not to get lynched. (birthday) I mean... That is pretty treacherous or what's the word. I can see her last 12 hours giving it all after getting some positive feedback in mafia QT and her not wanting to let her taemmates down. As town, I more likely would expect her to continue to be vicious and angry. She would be alone and why break character? Or maybe Vivax his vote and some posts made her revisit her actions. Like... I don't want to not lynch her for some off chance VE and MZ are mafia together or something. LS felt ok. He always does the meta stuff. I think he would feel slightly more off as mafia? Not so friendly maybe? Also the pushback on him feels mafia panicking that there are too many confirmed townies. I am fine with Vivax, rayn, marv I don't know about VE. My head doesn't want to understand MZ for some reason. Only surface. DP could be a very good mafia. Active and doing slight modifications on thread sentiment. (Like not letting LS be easy townread and was quickly to call Mebaby town, just to 180 as soon as I pushed back on the idea; then hid behind the 180 because you also did an 180) Then there is the lurkers and slam. | ||
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##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh Ok I am following daddy marv. I am too lost and I don't feel good anymore about lynching mebaby. | ||
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On May 25 2023 06:09 marvellosity wrote: I know I am very late here, but how do you feel about VE atm? I don't know. honestly. I quckly read MZ again and his opposition to chez lynch and aiming for LS And then his mebaby is a total crapshoot comment made me say fuck it. I follow marv. | ||
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Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok. Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. | ||
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But you did it. Even more amazing if you did this with 3 mafia on MZ and MZ town. That's sickly amazing. To fuck over town leaders and most active people and get the town doctor lynch. Amazing. | ||
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On May 25 2023 16:00 Koshi wrote: I must thank you for making this game memorable. This is truly amazing. Never could I have imagined that a wagon with marv, koshi,rayn and Vivax could be overtrown after the D1 we had. But you did it. Even more amazing if you did this with 3 mafia on Vivax and MZ town. That's sickly amazing. To fuck over town leaders and most active people and get the town doctor lynch. Amazing. ebwop | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote: What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:29 DarthPunk wrote: The problem is I am town, so if you are town, then this is going to be pretty awkward at some point. Nope. Town kills Vivax train. Mafia kills MZ train. We will never meet. It is ride or die with rayn and marv now. LS will be our Robin. | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:35 DarthPunk wrote: Can you seriously explain this Koshi if it was so obviously bad? And its not like you thought MZ was obviously scum either. This does not scream obvious lynch or extreme confidence , at all and now you are trying to lynch 6 or 7 players because we were wrong. OK I actually revoke my town read on you. This is too bad. wow what shall I do. No more townread from DP. lolololololololololololol | ||
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Even when I read a game perfectly I still have the other voices in my head talking about 3 other scenarios that I must ignore. That and actually lynching Vivax with VE, mebaby, MZ, Onegu which are your fucking townreads and town leaders most questionable people in the game is HILARIOUS | ||
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But my ego aside I hope he is town and voted with 3 mafia on town doctor Vivax, and the next couple days he is going to scumread me and we will antagonize each other till the brink of WW3. | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:42 DarthPunk wrote: OK then, so you decided to sheep marv, and I considered it and then read the thread and obth the lynch targets filters again and made a decision to lynch the one I thought looked less actively town at the time. How does that make me mafia? Also you were not that helpful if I recall I literally do not care about words, filters and logic anymore when talking to you. You voted Vivax when rayn, marv and myself were on MZ and we had a great time during D1. | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:44 marvellosity wrote: Can you quote what you’re talking about here Koshi? From my filter or his? I mean 4-5 people were townreading LS without any real basis and DP came back with a gigant post saying LS isn't as townie as we should think. | ||
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On May 25 2023 05:39 Koshi wrote: Look. I want her flipped. The closer to deadline the more she changed her "fuck you all" attitude and started to post reasonable and asked town a couple times to not vote her out. Then as soon as I opened up to not get her lynched, she left while basically emotionally blackmailing town with the exact thing I was advocating for her not to get lynched. (birthday) I mean... That is pretty treacherous or what's the word. I can see her last 12 hours giving it all after getting some positive feedback in mafia QT and her not wanting to let her taemmates down. As town, I more likely would expect her to continue to be vicious and angry. She would be alone and why break character? Or maybe Vivax his vote and some posts made her revisit her actions. Like... I don't want to not lynch her for some off chance VE and MZ are mafia together or something. LS felt ok. He always does the meta stuff. I think he would feel slightly more off as mafia? Not so friendly maybe? Also the pushback on him feels mafia panicking that there are too many confirmed townies. I am fine with Vivax, rayn, marv I don't know about VE. My head doesn't want to understand MZ for some reason. Only surface. DP could be a very good mafia. Active and doing slight modifications on thread sentiment. (Like not letting LS be easy townread and was quickly to call Mebaby town, just to 180 as soon as I pushed back on the idea; then hid behind the 180 because you also did an 180) Then there is the lurkers and slam. | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:47 DarthPunk wrote: This is so arrogant it's distasteful, just because you three had iron clad scum reads on MZ (hint only marv did) and made such strong arguments like, then I should not have the gall to come up with my own analysis of the game? I should have bowed down to your obvious (to you) prowess. That's not really fun, nor is it convincing. The fun is over when you fuck over your 3 townleaders friends. | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:49 DarthPunk wrote: He wasn't and isn't. I'm glad you acknowledge that. I know. That's why it was a good play by you my mafia friend. | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:50 DarthPunk wrote: The fun is over when you behave like this honestly. Yes it is the egg en chicken story. You betrayed us. Now there is this. marv is a gentle soul. Talk to him. He is way less vindictive than I am. Well he isn't at all. And I am 101% | ||
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On May 25 2023 18:45 die_meatbaby wrote: If you or Koshi are Mafia i am goeing to take the toilette and throw it out of the window. The mafia would be the 2 most activ writer here. I would be so pissed of about that screams lurker | ||
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Only read the spoiler if you are marv + Show Spoiler + Careful, If you say "yes" he is going to nk you. | ||
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Do you think there was some hypnotic message hidden behind that message that made others vote Vivax? | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:15 marvellosity wrote: Can I just note for one moment that confirmed town Vivax had almost the exact same case on MZ that I did. Give it a think. It was the reason you 3 were in my townpile. Both mindmelded with you. was a no brainer. | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:04 Grackaroni wrote: TankTopTiger has replaced [UoN]Sentinel Welcome. Please become TankTopTiger the TipTopTown. No pressure. | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:15 die_meatbaby wrote: no not really. Was smart from him. At the start of the game when I was saying he and V are mafia. He was never saying something that make people think about V as m. After we talked at this point i was writing somewhere that i would easy switch my opinion from him to town just need more writing stuff. after that he going to post this and all people start to be against V I wonder what rayn his secret is. I typed Vivax is town and for some reason that didn't stop 6 people to vote for him. Do you think rayn arranges his words in a special way to make it more convincing? | ||
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On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day. Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it. On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know. I will need to analyse this further. So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient. So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful? I shall need to contact the Brown for this. | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote: So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? He didn't get a free walk. We attacked marv and then welcomed him in the town circle after vetting him. It's ok if you missed that. You might have read discussions about a mebaby post saying marv looked town that scammed people in a previous game and now everybody is attacking him. Also. You say some people feel fake (because we force reads most likely), and then you don't like marv for "not exerting" any influence. That is a contradiction you should try to get rid of. marv is indeed a calm player, and is not yelling and swearing. But he did get his preferred target 5 votes. So he influenced at least that. Or was that somebody else his doing? | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote: The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts. I am glad we kept you. | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote: Have you read all the posts yet? I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end. The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush. I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch. | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:45 die_meatbaby wrote: just because i said you are one of the strongest player. I just repeat V´s words with the first sentence here. You found a great partner in V. A very intelligent man. | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote: Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it. Or ask questions about it Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it. Not having read it and all. Half of the town (the bad part) and all the mafia. | ||
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On May 25 2023 20:50 TankTopTiger wrote: Can you give me a time frame for when this vetting occurred? Because IMO that early nonsense where people push and pull based on nothing but farts means zero so establishing someone's alignment forevermore during that primordial soup is not a strong foundation for a town. RE: Contradiction It's not a contradiction. Having genuine reads is not the opposite of passivity. He asks a lot of questions (good), but then doesn't seem to take them anywhere in service to anything but his survival. I don't like fake reads, I think they muddy shit up. They're necessary to get the ball rolling, but once the ball is rolling I expect genuine reads not empty accusations. The ball is rolling and has been for a while, so IMO we don't need them. 10-24 hours into the game. Don't agree with "his survival". But ok. fake reads are bad. I wonder what you define as fake though. Anyway. marv is a big boy. Good to have you for secret reasons. | ||
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On May 25 2023 21:01 die_meatbaby wrote: sorry postet it in the quote not after my mistake i think you are right koshi should read what was writtin at this time take 10 min maybe. instead of decorating your shit like a litte princess you could read that. I won't do both most likely. | ||
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On May 25 2023 21:15 die_meatbaby wrote: if you are town you will die in the first night for shure. Mafia are to scared of good players like you, so they make you die, because they know people would vote me out directly and so we lose 3 town people in D1 N1 and D2. If you don´t die in this night you are more likly to be mafia (for me) and people would vote on you on d2 ... ... ... Can I please get shot so I can see marv defending himself against MZ, TTT and Mebaby while DP is cackling maniacally in the corner? | ||
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On May 25 2023 21:23 TankTopTiger wrote: That seems a tad hyperbolic to me. I thought asking questions was good? I am saying that I don't understand why you are grilling marv while there is somebody in the thread that has the EXACT OPPOSITE of your opinion and you don't talk to her. | ||
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On May 25 2023 21:55 TankTopTiger wrote: Okay so what I've got is that: Rayn made a meta-claim about MZ's behaviour. (what was this claim?) Marv slept on it and woke up agreeing with Rayn. Marv then built on this, saying the case was too clean/obvious, and doesn't look like he was trying to discern Marv's alignment. Everyone then sheeped Marv's compelling claim. Is this a fair summary of why everyone thinks Marv is town? yes. very fair. | ||
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On May 25 2023 21:58 TankTopTiger wrote: Koshi, can you not think of a single reason why I would ask Marv to defend himself instead of asking the first-time player? To a newcomer, you people are acting in lockstep with no rhyme or reason. I don't understand, and I don't expect someone who is also new to the scene to understand. So I'm asking the people I most expect to be able to answer my questions. That would be the people who apparently have it all figured out. Can you please jump off Marv's lap if you're not going to help me? Thanks. True. I am just wondering why you are so focussed on marv and ignored the person saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you claimed only moments later. | ||
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Last game he kept repeating Rels was town (he wasn't) and that we should lynch decundou, and then after he lynched decundou and he flipped town. He was mad at HF and I for not being around while we were voting mafia Rels. This is not the same MZ. | ||
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On September 01 2022 03:02 Grackaroni wrote: \Day One Vote Count Deconduo (5): Meapak_Ziphh (4): Holyflare, Rels(3): Koshi, Raynpelikoneet(1): Mattchew CopCake (1): Alakaslam (0): Chezinu(0): Dandel Ion (0): Vivax (0): Not Voting (0): With 5 votes, Deconduo is lynched! Please let me know if you notice any mistakes small lie. HF was also voting for town. But yeah. Now I remember MZ that game. Not 100% but I think there is a differencE. | ||
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Onegu voted off wagon. I didn't even see that. Fuck. So if he is mafia they didn't even vote together and there is no mafia on the MZ train. awwwww | ||
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On May 25 2023 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah townies do all kind of stupid shit all the time, just look at the last game vote count, Koshi town leader has good reads anmd what the fuck townies do? They develop not one but TWO shit wagons in the last hours and mafia!rayn is happily sitting with angry Koshi on his scumbuddy ![]() tbh that was less bad than this. How this happened is a mystery to me. | ||
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On May 25 2023 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Couldnt even lynch Rels D2 lol. Yeah but they still did D3 after Koshi and DI got NK so there is that. | ||
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On May 25 2023 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have no idea. Is Darthpunk semi blaming me(????) for his vote? Yup it is extremely special. You opened the gate bro. You let it happen. I don't know how you will sleep tonight knowing you killed Vivax. | ||
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On May 26 2023 00:03 marvellosity wrote: Rayn or Koshi, can you remind me your reasoning why MZ/VE isn’t a likely team? For me it was because MZ talked to him and his attacks/replies went from soft to hard. But now that I reread it, MZ then brushed it off saying VE wasn't a high priority and put him as null in his next list post. | ||
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