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On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
A little summary of my thoughts on the start of the game before I went to bed, before i have look at the rest.
Overall thoughts on dandel ion's start:
I often end up in exchanges like that on day 1. For some reason people tend to post stuff that doesn't make sense from a town perspective, be openly and obviously evasive about answering questions, and invariably end up being town.
He certainly doesn't appear to be 'hiding' the way i would expect mafia to, but I just can't get over how scummy some of his reasoning is.
? What would be that way?
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On August 31 2022 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i don't even know what Rels is but he can die because the only reason i am playing this game is because he asked me to and i said yes while working basically 2,5 jobs and then he is not even playing.
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Caught up.
Top town Koshi and rayn for sure
Townie, maybe HF and MZ?
##Vote CopCake
Other candidates are Jock, Slam
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This post by Koshi is basically spot on.
On August 31 2022 05:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
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Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb  What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated The nested quotes are interesting conversations pushing the game forward. You question is super random. You ask who was in the game? Why? Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
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did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. So did you ask specifically to know HF was in there? If so, why not explain what you thought about HF's reaction? Such passive play. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
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Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
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But responded to the very next one:
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But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't. How did HFs reaction made sense? rayn mistyped and said something incomprehensible. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb I assume he meant 'this game has a mafia rb that does actually rb. But that doesn't matter. The "What?" from HF was warranted because rayn was talking gibberish. So I still don't know why you asked the player list and didn't just participate with the conversation that was happening right there in the thread. I still don't know why HF reaction was potential scummy (you claimed it would have been scummy if he wasn't in the game) And I still think you invented a reasoning after rayn pressured you about Jock and HF. Can you explain the bolded? I am still curious.
I can't imagine the mindset of CopCake there.
rayn posts a cryptic post. HF posts "What?". Later, it's revealed that rayn was talking about another game, and that it was a trap for Vivax.
Now in CopCake's mind, if HF was in that previous game, he shouldn't have posted that because he should have remembered that previous game? But that makes no sense. rayn's post was cryptic, and the game was from 2020 anyway.
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Like this:
On August 30 2022 19:42 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 19:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 19:06 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
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What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
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Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. -- On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
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He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
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I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
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What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't. Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure. Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting. So Copcape I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed" D:< If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason. Explain why please. Because it would have been dumb/odd of him to continue to tunnel rayn on that if he was in the game, specially when he explained it was a phone derp. And I will continue to ask questions, for example: Is it my meta to do this as mafia? How is the "town copcake"?
What HF can't be called tunnel though??
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Meh I guess it can be called a tunnel
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What?
On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol.
On August 30 2022 04:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 04:21 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:16 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 04:15 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:12 deconduo wrote:
Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia The question is, if you've noticed this pattern before, didn't you just vote for the people whose posts you liked? How did it go? Don't remember, its been years Fair enough. On August 30 2022 04:17 deconduo wrote:
My old rule was always vote Palmar day 1 Oh its ok the rule is vote palmar day 1 or if he's not there vote holyflare. On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol. His post makes sense after the clarification. It didn't before, I assume that why you posted 'what?'. Why does saying this game has a rber that doesn't rb make any sense? Can't find anything about it in the OP.
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Her question comes after those 3 posts
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
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On August 31 2022 10:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
While we're both here rels let me get to your question
Thanks. I have some posts of yours in a separate tab too :p
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Meh I was wrong. CopCake makes sense. This is her reasonning:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 19:42 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 19:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 19:06 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
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What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
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Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. -- On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
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He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
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I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
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What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't. Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure. Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting. So Copcape I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed" D:< If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason. Explain why please. Because it would have been dumb/odd of him to continue to tunnel rayn on that if he was in the game, specially when he explained it was a phone derp. And I will continue to ask questions, for example: Is it my meta to do this as mafia? How is the "town copcake"?
And at the time of her asking rayn the question, HF only had 3 posts, all 3 related to rayn:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol. On August 30 2022 04:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 04:21 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:16 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 04:15 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:12 deconduo wrote:
Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia The question is, if you've noticed this pattern before, didn't you just vote for the people whose posts you liked? How did it go? Don't remember, its been years Fair enough. On August 30 2022 04:17 deconduo wrote:
My old rule was always vote Palmar day 1 Oh its ok the rule is vote palmar day 1 or if he's not there vote holyflare. On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol. His post makes sense after the clarification. It didn't before, I assume that why you posted 'what?'. Why does saying this game has a rber that doesn't rb make any sense? Can't find anything about it in the OP.
Also reading her filter, this post is pretty townie. She was pushed for reads but it doesn't feel like she felt pressure manufacturing reads, just said whatever she was thinking. This doesn't feel like a prepared post. Especially the last line.
On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube
Neutral:
Rels
Matt
People who are not fun:
Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ
Chezinu:
Chezinu this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh your last list was better, you fell off It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes. I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much " feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive. Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet? I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself. I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation. You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town. I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers. I want more HF but overall Rels tho. And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time. Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
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I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel.
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On August 31 2022 10:25 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 09:29 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
A little summary of my thoughts on the start of the game before I went to bed, before i have look at the rest.
Overall thoughts on dandel ion's start:
I often end up in exchanges like that on day 1. For some reason people tend to post stuff that doesn't make sense from a town perspective, be openly and obviously evasive about answering questions, and invariably end up being town.
He certainly doesn't appear to be 'hiding' the way i would expect mafia to, but I just can't get over how scummy some of his reasoning is. ? What would be that way? I'm looking for certain things that indicate town on day 1: -Blatant, simple scumhunting -Tunnelling in a productive way -Getting people to share their thought process to help catch scum later. DI's posting looked like it fit into the third category to me. He was posting nonsense, but in doing so he was also provoking people to show why they thought he was wrong and not backtracking or diverting attention away from it like i would expect from mafia. Compare his posts to Vivax, my scumread, and you can see how dandel's posting seems to have a point and is geared towards eventually finding scum whereas Vivax isn't really doing anything like and just jumped on the first possible vote and stayed there. Vivax is also posting enough to not die but hasn't posted anything really that will get people talking. He's hiding, like i would expect mafia too. DI isn't, his posts provoke conversation about DI and his posts.
Meh, I really disagree. Don't think there is a significant difference between both TBH. DI is posting random shit and is proud of it yeah, but I don't see any attempt to get useful info. That doesn't make him anything apart from useless.
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I have this post saved on a tab by Slam, that I thought was very scummy:
On August 30 2022 13:35 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Lol until I saw this shit I was gonna SR you by pointing out you were too fucking bitter but then remembered that bitterness is not alignment indicative 
It's extremely forced, for a player that I think always posts random stuff without thinking about it. I don't believe he really had the thought process he described.
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Reading Slam's filter, nothing else really jumps as scum or town. Makes sense, I have a very hard time reading Slam usually.
HF on your case, I don't think most of it makes Slam scum. The only thing that does in my mind is the post I've talked about, and yeah maybe the other ones in the same paragraph:
On August 31 2022 00:11 Holyflare wrote:His further posts don't really lead to any kind of evaluation either. He was going to scum read Rayn but remembered Rayn was just bitter as either alignment, he gets into some weird mechanics argument with Dandel in #263 for a while (and actually in this post hesitates in scum reading Dandel?) Then he circularly references his original suspicion in #269 saying he has no scum reads and that maybe Rayn is just mafia after all? It doesn't read like a genuine thought process and I think he was afraid to push too far onto Dandel for fear of repercussions, rather than a genuine intent to solve Dandel's alignment.
They also feel kind of fabricated. Less so than the one I've quoted above but a little bit.
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On August 31 2022 10:40 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rels:
First DI said he was lynching me because i was scum. He then had that exchange with me and switched and said he was lynching decon.
The progression there reads to me like he's provoking reactions from players to try and get a read on them.
I agree with him that decon is at least a bit scummy so it makes sense that he would go there next.
Of course, to read him town based on this depends on his futureposting too and whether the progression continues, but it looks to me like a townie player getting info and finding a target.
meh. Rereading it again, I don't see it. He's reacting to your posts, you're the one driving the conversation. He's just responding with shit and having fun.
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I'm very sorry, also while rereading the exchange I still don't like your posts. I really don't like how it seems that you want to grab an easy win while fearing to be too obvious
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For example, the second one in that back to back pair of posts:
On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch In what way?
On August 30 2022 05:04 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch Also I will infer from this that your mind is close to made up and that you actually are trying to lynch me.
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Vivax, want to talk about the game?
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On August 31 2022 10:49 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 10:46 Rels wrote:
I'm very sorry, also while rereading the exchange I still don't like your posts. I really don't like how it seems that you want to grab an easy win while fearing to be too obvious You don't have to apologize.
I live in Canada now, I heard I have to now!
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On August 31 2022 10:49 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 10:46 Rels wrote:
I'm very sorry, also while rereading the exchange I still don't like your posts. I really don't like how it seems that you want to grab an easy win while fearing to be too obvious What do you think i was trying to win?
Something like, the justification for an easy scumread / vote
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