[N] Uninspired Mafia

On May 01 2019 09:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

So do you think Grack has the wrong idea with voting him?

On May 01 2019 07:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Pandain should actually be pretty easy to read judging from the last two games he played. He was a lot more held back in the scum game and in the town game I thought he was a pretty easy town read.

On May 03 2019 08:22 Grackaroni wrote:
lol one time he fake claimed a check as the real cop.

So we lynched a townie and then lynched him as the cop.

On May 03 2019 08:25 Grackaroni wrote:

I think scum is just in MZ/FF/Rels with an off chance of HF.

On May 03 2019 08:25 Grackaroni wrote:

I think scum is just in MZ/FF/Rels with an off chance of HF.

On May 03 2019 08:30 Grackaroni wrote:

I got a good feel from him earlier when he was spamming posts but he needs to pick up his game too. Sheeping his vote based on Rayn is shitty.

On May 05 2019 01:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm sorry guys. Some real life stuff came up yesterday.

I'm here now and I'll read through but my gut reaction is that we should be lynching into a lurker right now rather than the most active players.

On May 05 2019 03:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Is Koshi going to show up today?

On May 05 2019 02:16 Grackaroni wrote:
I think we should lynch Pandain.

After rereading his filter I don't like that he makes such a hard turn into being super sure Vivax is the best lynch at the end of the day and tries to milk the credit for voting him for all that it's worth. Rayn put him in a spot where he pretty much had to vote Vivax but there wasn't much chance of Vivax actually dying at the end of the day when the only people posting were me/Pandain/Rayn.

On May 04 2019 12:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Why HF over say VE?

As of this moment I feel VE has the closest thing to thread control.

On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me.

On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now?

On May 04 2019 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:


HF is the only person in the thread who has consistently managed to get a wagon going. Jock, myself, Pandain.

On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now?

On May 04 2019 12:27 wherebugsgo wrote:


He doesn't seem to be aggressive in pushing to me, no. I'd classify his play as opportunistic in this game.

On May 05 2019 04:04 wherebugsgo wrote:


I mean, this would ordinarily be an amazing fucking argument. Like, I actually was on board with "nah HF would never fake claim here as scum" and 100% believed the claim when you made it because I was like he has to be a cop here.

But of course, you have a history of fake claiming. and you know that.

Which makes all of these completely alignment non-indicative because you and I both know, as some of the better scum players on these forums, that in order not get lynched for a deviation between your town and scum plays you have to do exactly what you would do as town. Or at least, you need to try to do exactly what you think others would expect you to do as town. And in your case, that's fake claim.

On May 05 2019 04:12 Grackaroni wrote:

lol the last time you said this you linked me to a filter of your scum QT to prove it and in the QT you were like "I'm going to claim cop lolololol."

On May 05 2019 04:15 Holyflare wrote:


I literally don't remember. It's certainly not the norm for people to do.

On November 02 2017 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax came to the thread sheeped a really obvious read and grumbled about being a pro sheep and that's about it. The read itself is imo bad because he's posted since then and vivax didn't use any of that and then he continued to do nothing. Didn't even grumble about me and lynching me which is his favourite pastime.

Damerion, as explained, jumped on specifically one shockeyy post and voted to lynch him which is totally out of character from his meandering walls of narrative that eventually lead to a vote in previous games and that instantly jumped out. I don't think he'd do that as town.

Ticktock I feel like he comes into the game to make comments that aren't particularly difficult and sounds arbitrary and made up and then he leaves again after "contributing". It feels very artificial to me and I have no idea why so many people say they like it.

On May 11 2017 21:19 Holyflare wrote:
Well grack definitely can be. I just haven't really looked into anything. Everything he does is weird though. He says df/vivax definitely contains mafia, spends no real time talking about them and votes you instead.

He was super submissive to rayn.

He spent all that time basically trying to outline to me that your and df's points were different and he had no conclusion on me, you or df other than "people's conclusions can be different" and was just basically arguing for the sake of it.

His interactions with me are all defensive.

Underwhelming, definitely, scummy motivation, maybe? You've definitely got under his skin at least.

On June 05 2018 07:39 Holyflare wrote:
I find it incredibly hard to think there's been any mafia motivation in my play. All I've done is call it like I've seen it. If I was wrong then fair enough, I was wrong but just because I haven't had the time to play nor come back with ferocity that you "think" I should have does not make me mafia.

It's tough for me to decide what alignment you are though because there's so much stacked up against you. I have a feeling that you're stuck in a corner and instead of natural reevaluation you did the typical mafia scenario of doubling down on your read on me because it makes the most "sense" from your perspective. The problem is it doesn't make sense. Everything you write tries to paint me as some mastermind that played for the long game yet I haven't even really been playing the game so I don't understand how you can simultaneously think both things.

It's also quite telling that you said my partner was darthfoley but didn't even look at the vote count last cycle (which you afked your vote on me in) where I actually tried (and almost succeeded) to kill darthfoley, my alleged partner as a shenanigan. What would be the point at all?

It's this lack of critical analysis combined with the most posts that I've ever seen you write (and all the day 1 vote crap) that leads me to think you are mafia.

On May 05 2019 04:33 Grackaroni wrote:

Shit.

#1 I'm pretty sure HF was town and Damerion was different but I think he was also town that game and that I totally called it too.

#2 probably HF is town and I am mafia? It sounds a lot like I was mafia.

#3 HF mafia?

Tbh I probably played in all of these games and still could be wrong.

On May 05 2019 04:37 Grackaroni wrote:

What's the correct answer?

On May 04 2019 12:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think VE also has influence because he seems to be universally town-read. I just don't think anyone in this game is unquestionably leading town.

On May 04 2019 08:49 Pandain wrote:


No my point is that only one person died. So are we just assuming that mafia has one kp? Probably not, then town would be hugely advantaged. So the fact that only one person died suggests there was a medic save or a vet got shot.

On May 06 2019 05:18 Grackaroni wrote:
I doubt we have three blues that would be unbalanced.

On May 05 2019 03:15 Grackaroni wrote:



You asked Rayn if he would switch to Rels. He said he the only vote he would switch to was Vivax. It would look really strange imo if you came out against lynching Vivax after expressing interest in switching up the vote, so I don't see you ever not voting Vivax as scum in that position. If you wanted a WBG lynch then conceivably you would have voted him already.

On May 06 2019 08:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah I was reading and then I ran out of time before end of night. I think that was pretty clear.

Your shit reads super opportunistic to me.

On May 07 2019 16:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think the disproof of that argument isn’t far though, it’s name is Vivax the...godfather? wtf even happened there anyway



This post has been bothering me ever since I read it. Maybe I’m thinking too hard but what townie ever finds themselves thinking this deeply about this?

And in a semi-open setup how often does that actually happened? Just cause Koshi got sort of burned by it it’s on his mind?

On May 07 2019 22:56 VisceraEyes wrote:

Keep reading bby

On May 08 2019 09:44 Grackaroni wrote:
I want it to be Grack too.

On May 05 2019 04:56 Grackaroni wrote:
lol HF if you flip mafia I am going to look sooooo shitty.

On May 05 2019 04:56 VE saw Grackaroni write:
lol HF when you flip town I am going to look sooooo gooooooooood.