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On March 07 2019 12:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:54 Grackaroni wrote:On March 07 2019 12:46 Rels wrote:On March 07 2019 12:40 Grackaroni wrote:On March 07 2019 12:17 Rels wrote:So: On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think if you lean red on everyone it's only slightly better than leaning green on everyone. I'd almost call it a scum play Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean Oats because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.
On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. On March 06 2019 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
There's actually two parts missing. "I'd almost call it a scum play [but] Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean [red on] Oats because even with..."
That being said, it's the slightest of scum leans and I never grouped him in my lynch targets like Trfel, LS, etc.
meh. Maybe. It's kinda weak Honestly I've been mostly going just off Palmar/Marv's take on Sentinel for my read so far but I'm wading into his filter now and it's really not pretty. Read here: On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case? His read on TT is In line with thread sentiment as he said in the post. Later in his big reads post he drops a scum read on TT based off the same early game posts that he already read when he called TT town the first time. (note the timestamps.) + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:7) TictockI'll be happy voting for him if only to get him to stop putting all his reads in spoilers Here are some of his noteworthy takes Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind
Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall. I agree with this for the same reason. More on this in my Meapak DD in the next post Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Ehh, I can't make up my mind what I want to say about this, I agree with him (which typically gives me townfeels for Damdred) but this feels like an easy, "free" read and post from Damdred. For some reason was noteworty to me... idk. Dam Trfel... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
For real though trfl why do you say 7? Honestly, just guessing. Seems like the right number, that or six, I'd rather overestimate than underestimate. As to why, I figured it would be eye-catching  You said(typed) it with such confidence though, I Believed... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
You got that from him saying that he's always town? I know because I'm masons with ls. Ok... Damdred Probs town. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+ I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. Holyflare, Great detective work! I would love to have you on my team as lead investigator! I will be sure that the corporate office hear of this amazing discovery! Best, ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/vDCUUiL.png?2) Chezinu Isunizehc Why does this game irrelevant post get praise from you Chez? + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons  Honest to a fault... Totes town.
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet. What's interesting here is that the foundation of all of this is LS's first three posts. I don't know which three posts qualify but up to the "me and Damdred aren't masons" LS has posted nothing of substance, town or not. Damdy is town because he agrees with LS. He's masons with LS and LS is town so they can't be scum together. Oops LS isn't a mason but LS is town and Damdy is still town because he said LS is town. His justification is Show nested quote +LS can be a hard player to read, but all these posts are honest sadness that people are starting to play for real and not just joke around and shoot the breeze as many recent games have started.
Not saying I have some kinda God-Read on him or anything, but that is how I try to and what I get from those posts. So all of his town reads by association come from a belief that LS is honest. And that belief is predicated on the fact that LS was joking around. Show nested quote +HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
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HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) I think this is colored by TT's dislike of HF Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch. I don't like this post because he started with a gutread on her and acted off that information throughout the game, leading to the conclusion: rsoultin is town. It cheapens the value of all the evidence he posts afterward to support the fact rsoultin is town. Leaning red man did TT really post nothing between these 2 posts ??? this is looking mych better Everything that Sentinel later quotes for TT being scum occur before Sentinel town reads him. The one thing I'll say is that he takes a hard stance towards LS in his big post and maybe that causes him to re-evaluate, but I'm still pretty suspicious of his town read in the first place then if he dislikes those posts so much. Okay that is quite damning. Sentinel explain?
It was a one off post before I read my PM after mostly skimming the thread. Taking a look into TT when I was compiling my reads made me change my mind. Grack is definitely reading too much into that first post where I call TT town
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On March 04 2019 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP: I put thoughts on Ace before he returned to the thread. Obviously now I'm going to have to reevaluate him.
then you didn't? Like, ever
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you seem so careful about how you handle Ace! It's so weird
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On March 07 2019 13:10 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP: I put thoughts on Ace before he returned to the thread. Obviously now I'm going to have to reevaluate him. then you didn't? Like, ever
Someday. Probably Friday when I stop getting barraged by homework and exams. I still have to do a proper Acro read as well.
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On March 03 2019 08:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote:
I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations.
Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check). This is the 6th post Ace has made in the thread Is this a really oblique way of saying "you guys should nominate me for mayor"?
On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
32) Ace
The only thing of substance he's done in the thread so far is propose to nominate a lurker for mayor before disappearing from the thread. But it also does carry the cost of another NK. The lurker doesn't even have to show their hand since there's a lot of plausible deniability between "I haven't been keeping up with the thread" and "In the 30 minutes I've been here I think [suspicious townie] is scum". This gives me red vibes but Ace hasn't been here long enough for me to say for certain.
On March 04 2019 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP: I put thoughts on Ace before he returned to the thread. Obviously now I'm going to have to reevaluate him.
These are weirdly cautious, like you're afraid of talking about Ace. If you're town, why? I can imagine why if you're scum (afraid to talk about your partner, or afraid to get Ace's attention)
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On March 07 2019 13:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 13:10 Rels wrote:On March 04 2019 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP: I put thoughts on Ace before he returned to the thread. Obviously now I'm going to have to reevaluate him. then you didn't? Like, ever Someday. Probably Friday when I stop getting barraged by homework and exams. I still have to do a proper Acro read as well.
looking forward to it!
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On March 06 2019 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meapak, if youre town (which is someghing i am willing to entertain) then acrofales must always be mafia.
What's the reasoning for this? If already explained I missed it.
On March 06 2019 11:20 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 10:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:BC is a scummers. This post before deadline reeks:+ Show Spoiler +On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else. Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you. So no I am not down for lynching him -_- If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison. We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing. So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. How about instead we look into this pool. Onegu Why? 1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt. 2) Reads currently given have no substance to them 3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements 4) Basically just has posts with 0 content Iamperfection I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it. Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons. He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum. He gets to come in, yell at town, and then set himself up to look vindicated if Palmar dies. No comments on any of the active wagons of which we know two (trfel, conv) were town, and says he disagrees with some of Palmar's reads without going into specifics. Very easy way to posture for 'town points' without needing to commit to anything. Besides that he's jumped on a couple other points but hasn't accomplished any real scum hunting in thread. This is plaigarism lol. Exact same word choice as Ace.
ooooooo.
On March 06 2019 11:28 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 11:18 Tumblewood wrote:On March 06 2019 11:15 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 11:13 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i have concluded that HF is mafia. because how bad does mafia have to be to get 0 scum in contention for mayor Do you think mafia are going to win against a palmar/hf mayor campaign? I don't think so. i find it hard to believe that with probably 6 or 7 votes mafia could not even get someone in contention. because other than you and confirmed flipped townies the highest vote getter was literally chezinu you say literally chezinu... I'm sooo torn.... compliment or insult.... TROLOLOLOL I thought Chezinu's honesty was a sure town tell. You know how he admitted how he run for mayor solely because of the title and not necessarily because he had a great plan to lead the town. But.. yeah.. At least HF said he was go with the majority of town with his vote. He was playing it politically. You see Palmer actually had stances. Unless this chanced. I haven't read too much of the new pages. But yeah, Chezinu's purpose is more fully fulfilled in a non-mayoral role. He is the bait.
What's going on homie? I know you usually only respond to poetic motions or role play, but if you're not scum we'll need you. The bolded tho? Was that his actual stance at any point Day 1?
On March 06 2019 11:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 11:31 Mocsta wrote:On March 06 2019 11:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 06 2019 11:20 Grackaroni wrote:On March 06 2019 10:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:BC is a scummers. This post before deadline reeks:+ Show Spoiler +On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else. Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you. So no I am not down for lynching him -_- If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison. We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing. So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. How about instead we look into this pool. Onegu Why? 1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt. 2) Reads currently given have no substance to them 3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements 4) Basically just has posts with 0 content Iamperfection I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it. Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons. He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum. He gets to come in, yell at town, and then set himself up to look vindicated if Palmar dies. No comments on any of the active wagons of which we know two (trfel, conv) were town, and says he disagrees with some of Palmar's reads without going into specifics. Very easy way to posture for 'town points' without needing to commit to anything. Besides that he's jumped on a couple other points but hasn't accomplished any real scum hunting in thread. This is plaigarism lol. Exact same word choice as Ace. On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote:On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else. Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you. So no I am not down for lynching him -_- If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison. We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing. So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. How about instead we look into this pool. Onegu Why? 1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt. 2) Reads currently given have no substance to them 3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements 4) Basically just has posts with 0 content Iamperfection I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it. On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons. He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum. This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here. HAHAHA HOLY SHIT. Grack are you actually town? what do you think about ace though in that chained quote? I dont beleive he ever did ANYTHING with that. He didn't but it's funny how he said this: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:58 Ace wrote:
@BC: where did I say I want Palmar killed???
@trfel: I think you should seriously claim if lynch noise bout to drop. And then voted for HF lmao
Yea :/. Was having this exchange with BC because I definitely did not see HF doing what he did. I actually thought Palmar had way too much sway for that move not to be met with instagib and also he didn't appear as scum to enough people for it to even be approachable. BC took my HF vote as a Palmar supported kill because he obviously believed the threat and was correct in the end.
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Well going to bed since noone really wanted to talk to me but when I wake up I will check everything!
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On March 07 2019 12:06 Ace wrote:Holyflare is Scum https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27283802 <---bullshit filter dive in fact, there are just too many posts that show he isn't scum hunting. It's either a lax attempt to show what someone else did wrong, asking "what should we do now?" type questions, or just filler. Outside of this, he killed Palmar. The entire reason behind my Day 1 post was to tie any mayor candidate to their lynch choice. It's not just that he didn't lynch Sentinel - if he had justifiable reasons then so be it. But he lynched Palmar and his reasoning rests on because he thought he was scum. Seriously. This guy should be the obvious lynch. How many people really thought Palmar was scum? He just did it because he could.And even if you somehow don't believe he's Scum he is clearly a net negative for the Town. He literally has done nothing - and this is coming from a guy who's been afk, caught up on only 30 pages or so and sees the nonsense plain as day. The nightkills - 3 dead. All Town. I refuse, literally refuse to think a vigilante shot any of them over Holyfield. Like it seems unfathomable that the targets would end up at Marv, Iamp, or Koshi (lol wut?). Especially with one being Vet and dying (maybe Rb + shot). If there's a third party out there, I think it goes without saying you should start shooting scum or clashing flips from now on  Lastly, I saw something about marv playing cop wrong. I actually think he made himself "obvious town" or whatever you want to call it and should have drawn night protection. Especially since he was a replacement with fresh eyes into the game. Maybe we have no more docs or the kill went through somehow. Either way I think it's worth backtracking him and iamps posts (-2 nightlife means very desperate kill) especially.
Thank you ace
Thank you for coming back
It surprises me.
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https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27285311
Mocsta I like your post :D
Firstly, I got mod prodded.
Regarding Mayor, I was never going to run. However, you're idea that I didn't "care" about who got Mayor is spot on. I really did not care whether HF or Palmar got it. I was more so interested in binding them to an opinion on who to lynch. If they deviated from that without sensible reasoning or flip/flopped I would find it extremely suspect.
Asking about lynching Palmar is not the same as saying I definitely want Palmar lynched. I also did not have a strong opinion on scum read till BC near EOD. I screwed up in not moving my vote before deadline but I was wishy/washy on Trfel.
Also, I tend to not give strong opinions on people until I'm ready to do so. I've also been out of the thread for long periods of time so some of my posts may seem disjointed - I'm trying to play catch up and will not voice every thought that comes to mind or may even forget some conversations. But really, I do like the post!
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On March 07 2019 13:32 Ace wrote:https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27285311Mocsta I like your post :D Firstly, I got mod prodded. Regarding Mayor, I was never going to run. However, you're idea that I didn't "care" about who got Mayor is spot on. I really did not care whether HF or Palmar got it. I was more so interested in binding them to an opinion on who to lynch. If they deviated from that without sensible reasoning or flip/flopped I would find it extremely suspect. Asking about lynching Palmar is not the same as saying I definitely want Palmar lynched. I also did not have a strong opinion on scum read till BC near EOD. I screwed up in not moving my vote before deadline but I was wishy/washy on Trfel. Also, I tend to not give strong opinions on people until I'm ready to do so. I've also been out of the thread for long periods of time so some of my posts may seem disjointed - I'm trying to play catch up and will not voice every thought that comes to mind or may even forget some conversations. But really, I do like the post! ohh man cant afford to lynch. town needs all the spare bullets we have left
##Unvote
Work with us on acro pls
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On March 06 2019 17:19 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 05 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
I've been keeping up but not posting.
Shouldn't trfel be here defending himself if he's scum instead of that 'take it or leave it' bullshit? On March 05 2019 07:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm voting trfel because so many people have reads on him and I'm not sure what's going on with BH at all. Soo post one suggests that you think trfel is town and then you decide to vote for him as scum bc "you don't know whats going on with BC" HMMMMMM Also you're one of those HF lurker voters... On March 05 2019 18:37 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 05 2019 18:29 rsoultin wrote:
i'm done with you acro. go back to something interesting, if you can manage it. calling your maybes in your reads list bad was a good start
@jock uhhuh...yeah i don't get how you read this game and claim that hf didn't have a scumread on palmar that he made overwhelmingly clear multiple times including his intention to use the mayor lynch to vote him. if your uncommitted to any pov is your way of saying he's scum i guess that makes some sense but it's a lot of words just to nullread someone At one point he said he wasn't going to lynch palmar and was just using the platform to find out who would go for it. The he said that was a lie. This is the post that is making me question his motives and how genuine his palmar read was. This is literally hours after the flip dude. What about him literally killing palmar is making you question his motives. Jock you've waffled so many times on HF in the last 24 hours I can't help but feel like you're setting yourself up for either side of an HF lynch and you're just waiting to see which way the thread goes. You also ask a lot of questions and push very few reads. You have only one substantial post detailing who you think is scum and have done nothing to advance your case... my goodness we're gonna have quite the docket of scum once I'm done sifting through the HF voters. Yeah but this is a stupid case, and heavily cherry picked. Unfortunately you accidentally cherry picked the part that shows exactly why I did what I did. I'm sure you'll be gone for a week or whatever now though so you just left this here like a fart before you left. Great job. Is there anything about my explanation for my questioning of hf yesterday that doesn't make sense? I had him as a townread and he's probably the most influential guy in the game at the moment. The way he went for the will I/won't I that you quoted here with Palmar and then explained it as just trying to have a laugh and inject fun into the thread (which is his explanation for all his anti-town actions) was something that got me thinking... So given that during the night phase I have nothing pressing to take care of I thought I'd try and get more information to try and see where he's coming from (this is also why I'm didn't make alot of reads yesterday - no-one's listening to me anyway so it wouldn't help with town decision making either). You guys read each other and make cases based off years of meta knowledge (which probably explains this weakass shit I wake up to), I only have people's actual posts to go off, and HF's were something I found a little weird. He is by no means the most suspicious guy in the game to me, but he's the most important at the moment so I don't want to be caught with my pants down accidentally townreading him. Same goes for rsoultin. My thinking was exactly the same - although as the day went on it became clear that no-one's really paying her any attention so I dropped it. When it comes to the trfel vote I was mostly concerned with making sure acro didn't get voted out as he's definitely town and useful. I wanted to get on a wagon and BH seemed like an interesting guy to keep around which was enough to go on for what was basically a coinflip.
yikes
On March 06 2019 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
The people voting me are on the biggest cop out lynch of 2019. I bet they're the same people that whined that BH didn't get shot too.
What benefit does my flip bring other than drawing you closer to end game? BH at least gives you the information about wagons. I'm also pumping out content comparatively to BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him. You may not agree with what I'm writing but that's your choice.
You can look at MZ's spreadsheet to see how stupid lynching palmar would have been if I was mafia. I'm not stupid as mafia, I demand thread consensus and people town reading me because it's the path of least resistance.
I will look into you Holyflare voters and if I see that you complained that BH isn't dead I will know your motivation about lynching me is completely feigned.
R.O.F.L.
That second bolded though. Explain. Really :D. I don't see how a person who mostly wanted to kill himself would reveal more information on someone with strong opinions and an actual action we can tie to them.
On March 06 2019 17:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 17:28 Mocsta wrote:
Hf
Some point this cycle. Preferably after ace responds. I want ur take on my ace case I don't agree with it. Why would someone fabled for being so good at mafia make such blatantly false accusations? If he doesn't come up with some read based on those posts then yeah, probably mafia.
You definitely did not read Mocsta's post then. How many accusations did I make, to whom?, and how would you know they are false?
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On March 07 2019 13:42 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 13:32 Ace wrote:https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27285311Mocsta I like your post :D Firstly, I got mod prodded. Regarding Mayor, I was never going to run. However, you're idea that I didn't "care" about who got Mayor is spot on. I really did not care whether HF or Palmar got it. I was more so interested in binding them to an opinion on who to lynch. If they deviated from that without sensible reasoning or flip/flopped I would find it extremely suspect. Asking about lynching Palmar is not the same as saying I definitely want Palmar lynched. I also did not have a strong opinion on scum read till BC near EOD. I screwed up in not moving my vote before deadline but I was wishy/washy on Trfel. Also, I tend to not give strong opinions on people until I'm ready to do so. I've also been out of the thread for long periods of time so some of my posts may seem disjointed - I'm trying to play catch up and will not voice every thought that comes to mind or may even forget some conversations. But really, I do like the post! ohh man cant afford to lynch. town needs all the spare bullets we have left ##UnvoteWork with us on acro pls
I'm currently on page 202 lol. I doubt I will catch up. But I will definitely try to vote before deadline which is 7PM ET I think (about 19 hours from now). In the event I don't can you link me to the relevant posts on Acro and/or summarize. Really not trying to be lazy but this is a lot to wade through and take notes on with my limited time.
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On March 07 2019 13:46 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 13:42 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 13:32 Ace wrote:https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27285311Mocsta I like your post :D Firstly, I got mod prodded. Regarding Mayor, I was never going to run. However, you're idea that I didn't "care" about who got Mayor is spot on. I really did not care whether HF or Palmar got it. I was more so interested in binding them to an opinion on who to lynch. If they deviated from that without sensible reasoning or flip/flopped I would find it extremely suspect. Asking about lynching Palmar is not the same as saying I definitely want Palmar lynched. I also did not have a strong opinion on scum read till BC near EOD. I screwed up in not moving my vote before deadline but I was wishy/washy on Trfel. Also, I tend to not give strong opinions on people until I'm ready to do so. I've also been out of the thread for long periods of time so some of my posts may seem disjointed - I'm trying to play catch up and will not voice every thought that comes to mind or may even forget some conversations. But really, I do like the post! ohh man cant afford to lynch. town needs all the spare bullets we have left ##UnvoteWork with us on acro pls I'm currently on page 202 lol. I doubt I will catch up. But I will definitely try to vote before deadline which is 7PM ET I think (about 19 hours from now). In the event I don't can you link me to the relevant posts on Acro and/or summarize. Really not trying to be lazy but this is a lot to wade through and take notes on with my limited time. lol... i take no acknowledgement, as a sublte acknowledgement Love it
+ Show Spoiler [Rayn case] +On March 06 2019 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:I really think we should lynch Acrofales and i don't think anything is going to change my mind this phase anymore. He has now given himself a perfect narrative to do absolutely nothing than sound like a broken record repeating Holyflare is mafia because he did a stupid thing. The problem is if you don't kill him right now even if we lynch another mafia after N2 too many influential players are going to be dead and he will simply yell over anyone who's left and town and you will get irritated and lose interest to play. I know this because it's how i used to play as scum. Here is a list why Acrofales is mafia: - He called out Grackaroni for making a useless list post and then continued doing nothing but listing lurkers / low volume posters for like next 24 hours. Neither of those are in itself necessarily scummy but saying someone is scum for doing a "universal mafia trait" -thing and then doing the same thing yourself is scummy as fuck and never comes from town, you'd have to be the biggest fucking hypocrite on earth to do that.
- He scumread iamperfection for too long, he should know wayyyyy better regardless of the fact iamp made a case (that everyone should read) on him.
- During the EoD he wasn't actively trying to do stuff, all he did was yelling and causing chaos. The most notable thing is he perfectly knew both Palmar's and Holyflare's mayor lynch choices don't align with his reads yet never ever during the whole time the debate was on tries he convince either of them to agree on a different lynch. Especially Palmar when they both share a scumread on Mocsta. There is simply no reason why a townie shouldn't care about this.
- Fake anger after D1 flips and anger directed at wrong place. Tubesock had a good post about this.
- After D1 Acrofales hasn't done a single productive thing. He has given himself a narrative in calling Holyflare mafia, hiding behind it, and doing nothing else. Even if he genuinely thinks Holyflare is mafia for doing a bad / stupid thing (which isn't even a good reason to scumread someone) it's simply pure mafia play to excuse yourself for not doing anything other than calling him mafia and everyone stupid and bad.
I encourage everyone to put your votes on Acrofales. All these Lighntingstrikes and Alakaslams need to get their heads out of their asses. Wave if you want to spend the rest of the game with scum 5-years-ago-rayn then be my guest and have your vote on HF as policy but don't complain after the game, especially in case Acrofales at some point decides to call you mafia and wants to have you lynched. You will not like it a single bit. The truth is Holyflare executing his scumread Palmar, however bad or stupid you may think that is, isn't actually even close to a good reasoning of him being mafia.
I agree on the case on Ace. I had more thought on it and i think the fact that he was actually aware of Trfel (or at least looked like he is) suggests that it is more likely he did in fact know what Holyflare was about to do. I know a lot of people are saying Ace is too good as scum to do something like that but i don't believe that is the case. I think Ace decided he can use his activity as an excuse to "not know HF is gonna lynch Palmar", aka that he didn't see it, and did the numbers and thought he can get away with it. Also Ace is not like some fucking mafia god that doesn't make any mistakes. + Show Spoiler +I caught him once because scum nuked meapak and i went to fakeclaim the nuke when for any player who doesn't have TMI that nuke never comes from mafia. Ace got confused and started gunning on me being mafia completely ignoring the fact before. And he couldn't even keep his story straight. So yeah, it's not like Ace alwasy does the most optimal play as mafia. Mr.Wiggles is also mafia but that's for tomorrow.
Relevant D1 timestamps
Some counters from observers
Acro Response 1
Acro response 2
Acro response 3
Acro response 4
Acro Response 5
Acro case on HF
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On March 07 2019 12:57 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 10:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:BC is a scummers. This post before deadline reeks: + Show Spoiler +On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else. Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you. So no I am not down for lynching him -_- If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison. We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing. So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. How about instead we look into this pool. Onegu Why? 1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt. 2) Reads currently given have no substance to them 3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements 4) Basically just has posts with 0 content Iamperfection I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it. Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons. He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum. He gets to come in, yell at town, and then set himself up to look vindicated if Palmar dies. No comments on any of the active wagons of which we know two (trfel, conv) were town, and says he disagrees with some of Palmar's reads without going into specifics. Very easy way to posture for 'town points' without needing to commit to anything. Besides that he's jumped on a couple other points but hasn't accomplished any real scum hunting in thread. Wiggles, not sure of the timing of the vote nor do I really disagree with this post. But I just checked the voting thread quickly and see BC has a vote on HF. Unless he finds reason to move, do you think BC + HF is a possible scum team? I also called BC scummy for the post near last EOD but outside of this do you sense scum motive from him?
Hmm, could BC + HF be a possible scum team? I guess it's possible. I've had a town read on HF, but if that's wrong and he were to flip red, I don't think that clears BC. A bus of HF today would be pretty easy to support for scum, considering all the people lusting after his blood coming out of N1.
I find BC to be a relative non-entity in this game who comes in long enough to throw around some accusations and act holier-than-thou before going to ground again. I think the exchange with Jock is a decent example of this.
When Jock comes in with a weird post about HF, BC jumps on it but ends up mostly just berating Jock. BC's points don't do much to advance the case on HF itself but do allow him to blow up on what Jock is attributing as motivation to HF. Before BC came in there's been other people town reading HF, but BC doesn't try to address any of those points, instead he just hops on Jock's bad point because it's easy.
For example, I'd contrast his play with yours right now. You're coming back into the thread after some time away, but you're adding comments about stuff you've read along the way. This is helpful and advances the thread. BC on the other hand comes in, plops down a post and then interacts with a couple people present in the thread (usually in a confrontational/negative way) before leaving again. It's obvious he's read the thread because he's putting forward a couple cases, but out of everything else that happens he seems to have basically no comment.
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On March 07 2019 12:43 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Oatsmaster wrote in asking: Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2019 01:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 07 2019 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think this should be a goal for the day.
I want people to commit to something.
NOW.
Hey Wiggles, you're here, where's your vote going, buddeh? Let's kill BH. I'd rather see that flip than kill HF right now. He doesn't give good vibes with how he's playing. I'm OK sheeping this: On March 05 2019 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Bh is unacceptable and he has had plenty of time to do something productive he is scum On March 05 2019 05:12 iamperfection wrote:
Kill bh he is full of crap he is scum On March 05 2019 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
My phone is gonna die vote bh Little bit of why bh doesn’t give you good vibes please wiggles? Well dear caller, our read on BH is coloured most by the flip-flopping about actually playing in this game. Will he or won't he? He comes in, says, "Kill me! Lynch me! Vig me and spit on my grave!". Then the next day he comes back and says, "I'm not dead yet. Maybe I'll start playing the game! Here's the start of some analysis.". Then he decides to give up and goes back to asking for the sweet release of death. This is when the vicious cycle begins once again. Fundamentally, this is anti-town, and I have been reading it as scum. Reading through the thread, the posts in the last few hours look to have improved at least, but that also happened during N1 for a while before BH went back to martyring. If the wagon on HF goes through and he flips town like I'm thinking, I give it a good chance BH goes back to asking to die. Assuming there's no vig shots available we'll have the BH issue distracting from D3 as well.
Day 1 I wanted to get p-lynched, it's true. N1 I was contributing, while at the same time also asking to be vigi shot. My stance will be to continue contributing (though do not expect me to read the first 100 pages of course), but at this point it's no longer rational to ask to be p-lynched and the vigi(s?) have decided, for whatever stupid reasons, not to shoot me. Don't expect me to stop my level of contribution.
I'll be here sporadically for a few hours, then I have sleep and work (which will mean phonebosting only), but I'll be around for 2-3 hours leading up to the deadline.
On March 07 2019 12:58 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:54 Rels wrote:On March 07 2019 12:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I am around was playing some scbw with my friend after playing pokemon if anyone wants to talk. Also I saw your answer rels and fair play. I got some more questions for you and it same ones I gave tina:
lWhat you think of EoD in terms of like spread of the mafia votes on the following scenarios:
If BH is Town?
If BH is Scum? given BH begged to be lynched, there is anything worthwhile to analyze in the vote. If he's scum, his team has known for a long time he's a likely D1 lynch and has planned accordingly. If he's town, well, same thing. THe only thing is that scum probably didn't vote en masse for the same guy, but that's not specific to this vote, more of a general rule Noted. I think if BH was scum then could have a few on both of the main wagons and maybe a outlier vote? If BH is town mafia had a field day and laughed their asses off I think.
Oh, I'm sure Mafia is laughing either way. Look at how D1 and N1 turned out.
On March 07 2019 13:53 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 13:46 Ace wrote:On March 07 2019 13:42 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 13:32 Ace wrote:https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27285311Mocsta I like your post :D Firstly, I got mod prodded. Regarding Mayor, I was never going to run. However, you're idea that I didn't "care" about who got Mayor is spot on. I really did not care whether HF or Palmar got it. I was more so interested in binding them to an opinion on who to lynch. If they deviated from that without sensible reasoning or flip/flopped I would find it extremely suspect. Asking about lynching Palmar is not the same as saying I definitely want Palmar lynched. I also did not have a strong opinion on scum read till BC near EOD. I screwed up in not moving my vote before deadline but I was wishy/washy on Trfel. Also, I tend to not give strong opinions on people until I'm ready to do so. I've also been out of the thread for long periods of time so some of my posts may seem disjointed - I'm trying to play catch up and will not voice every thought that comes to mind or may even forget some conversations. But really, I do like the post! ohh man cant afford to lynch. town needs all the spare bullets we have left ##UnvoteWork with us on acro pls I'm currently on page 202 lol. I doubt I will catch up. But I will definitely try to vote before deadline which is 7PM ET I think (about 19 hours from now). In the event I don't can you link me to the relevant posts on Acro and/or summarize. Really not trying to be lazy but this is a lot to wade through and take notes on with my limited time. lol... i take no acknowledgement, as a sublte acknowledgement Love it + Show Spoiler [Rayn case] +On March 06 2019 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:I really think we should lynch Acrofales and i don't think anything is going to change my mind this phase anymore. He has now given himself a perfect narrative to do absolutely nothing than sound like a broken record repeating Holyflare is mafia because he did a stupid thing. The problem is if you don't kill him right now even if we lynch another mafia after N2 too many influential players are going to be dead and he will simply yell over anyone who's left and town and you will get irritated and lose interest to play. I know this because it's how i used to play as scum. Here is a list why Acrofales is mafia: - He called out Grackaroni for making a useless list post and then continued doing nothing but listing lurkers / low volume posters for like next 24 hours. Neither of those are in itself necessarily scummy but saying someone is scum for doing a "universal mafia trait" -thing and then doing the same thing yourself is scummy as fuck and never comes from town, you'd have to be the biggest fucking hypocrite on earth to do that.
- He scumread iamperfection for too long, he should know wayyyyy better regardless of the fact iamp made a case (that everyone should read) on him.
- During the EoD he wasn't actively trying to do stuff, all he did was yelling and causing chaos. The most notable thing is he perfectly knew both Palmar's and Holyflare's mayor lynch choices don't align with his reads yet never ever during the whole time the debate was on tries he convince either of them to agree on a different lynch. Especially Palmar when they both share a scumread on Mocsta. There is simply no reason why a townie shouldn't care about this.
- Fake anger after D1 flips and anger directed at wrong place. Tubesock had a good post about this.
- After D1 Acrofales hasn't done a single productive thing. He has given himself a narrative in calling Holyflare mafia, hiding behind it, and doing nothing else. Even if he genuinely thinks Holyflare is mafia for doing a bad / stupid thing (which isn't even a good reason to scumread someone) it's simply pure mafia play to excuse yourself for not doing anything other than calling him mafia and everyone stupid and bad.
I encourage everyone to put your votes on Acrofales. All these Lighntingstrikes and Alakaslams need to get their heads out of their asses. Wave if you want to spend the rest of the game with scum 5-years-ago-rayn then be my guest and have your vote on HF as policy but don't complain after the game, especially in case Acrofales at some point decides to call you mafia and wants to have you lynched. You will not like it a single bit. The truth is Holyflare executing his scumread Palmar, however bad or stupid you may think that is, isn't actually even close to a good reasoning of him being mafia.
I agree on the case on Ace. I had more thought on it and i think the fact that he was actually aware of Trfel (or at least looked like he is) suggests that it is more likely he did in fact know what Holyflare was about to do. I know a lot of people are saying Ace is too good as scum to do something like that but i don't believe that is the case. I think Ace decided he can use his activity as an excuse to "not know HF is gonna lynch Palmar", aka that he didn't see it, and did the numbers and thought he can get away with it. Also Ace is not like some fucking mafia god that doesn't make any mistakes. + Show Spoiler +I caught him once because scum nuked meapak and i went to fakeclaim the nuke when for any player who doesn't have TMI that nuke never comes from mafia. Ace got confused and started gunning on me being mafia completely ignoring the fact before. And he couldn't even keep his story straight. So yeah, it's not like Ace alwasy does the most optimal play as mafia. Mr.Wiggles is also mafia but that's for tomorrow.
Is this all I need to read to understand the Acro case?
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On March 06 2019 18:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 18:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:he did have this to say HF On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote:
Well that was terrible.
@Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette.
There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow.
Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar.
side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop.
Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around.
That's not what I'm talking about though. He needs to answer why he didn't vote you over koshi and also how he got my stance on palmar so incredibly wrong. If he knew I had a "not good" reason to lynch palmar then he knew I scum read palmar all along and would likely follow through with the lynch. After all, he's who I wrote the most about in my reads list.
On March 06 2019 18:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 18:23 Mocsta wrote:On March 06 2019 18:17 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 18:05 Mocsta wrote:On March 06 2019 18:00 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 17:59 rsoultin wrote:
real talk HF is part of why you think Ace isn't scum because it's mocsta bringing the case? No I just think Ace isn't stupid. so to confirm Ita got nothing to do with that i initiated.... Cos its funny u can apply heuristics to him and then expect diff from me Cos ur case on me was about "stupid" inconsistencies Again. Its yes or no Do u really see town motivation in his 2page filter? My case on you was about something you said that didn't appear in any of the filters i read and also the total disconnect between you voting conversion with palmar (for a really bad case) after just raging at palmar and then having no qualms being on my mayor wagon when I said I'd lynch palmar My read on ace is that he's up to something and the negative points on him are either him not reading the thread or him playing some kind of reaction test. The point i do follow is his koshi vote which was bad. I want to see what he has to say. understood Im curious why u state he may not be reading the thread. His position on trfel jndicates hr was reading very closely? As for me.. why cant i just have not read carefully. I was equally busy and entered the gamr at a much higher page count Dont tell me its forum vet special pass... You said you didn't read the thread and only filter dived and then magically came out with a read on acro that didn't exist in any of the places you said it appeared. That's completely different. Ace is reading the thread but doesn't know I said I'd lynch palmar over sentinel? Does that make sense to you?
Oh hi. Just because you [b]have a reason[b] for calling someone Scum doesn't mean it's a sensible reason. I really may have missed the connections that outlined it but for argument's sake just direct me to where it was laid out.
Also I'm willing to blank out all of Day 1. But you're play Post Night 1 also screams scum to me. So there's that issue. I can abandon the Mayor thoughts entirely and you still don't fit the "this is Town" puzzle for me.
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On March 06 2019 18:27 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him. A) I actually have not asked to be lynched today B) the only extra information I have is that I'm town, and presumably people fall into two categories: 1) people who think I am town and so have just as much information as I do 2) people who think I am scum, and i'm not sure i'd convince such people that I have "more information" than them just by asserting I am town
I just caught this, and I feel like this is a needle in townish direction, especially since I read it after the post I made quoting this from HF. Could be scum BH but way more probable a Townie makes this most post. Fuck, I feel like most of my posts are anti-HF and I'm tunneling too hard and looking for confirmation bias :/
*sees HF reply to this post*
So much WIFOM spam, Town hero fallacy, and guilt tripping. Nah fuck that. Keep the lynch train going. Just too many things that push HF into obvious scum.
On March 06 2019 18:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 18:39 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 06 2019 18:37 Acrofales wrote:On March 02 2019 10:31 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:29 kitaman27 wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+ I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. He had to drop out. Trust me, if I abandoned somebody it would be Koshi. Well at least he's confirmed town now This?! Thanks for pointing it out. I don't understand the jump unless you already know koshi is town. I thought it was a joke being returned at Kita. But you were serious? TMI shining through. Add it to the many small reasons you a re mafia and we really need to kill you. I think he's town and just doing some little anti-town things. Seems like the kind of guy who has to be the centre of attention and that would fit. Please for the love of god explain to me how lying multiple times is only a little anti town?
Legit LOL. I know for a fact BC nearly slammed his skull into the computer. Even if he's scum writing this he's like WTF?
On March 06 2019 18:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 18:43 Mocsta wrote:On March 06 2019 18:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On March 06 2019 18:37 Acrofales wrote:On March 02 2019 10:31 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:29 kitaman27 wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+ I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. He had to drop out. Trust me, if I abandoned somebody it would be Koshi. Well at least he's confirmed town now This?! Thanks for pointing it out. I don't understand the jump unless you already know koshi is town. I thought it was a joke being returned at Kita. But you were serious? TMI shining through. Add it to the many small reasons you a re mafia and we really need to kill you. .... That is why he thought it was a mod confirm? Seriously? whats ur read on ace He calls u scumclobber TBH I think he looks like shit. But I tend to have a hard time reading Ace and usually want to off him because his scum play fucked me hard ages ago. As I am pre disposed to always killing him I am giving him into today to give me more to work with.
What when? Really I can't remember 
On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
I’m 180ing on my Acrofales townread. I think the anger at HF is faked and made to look like he has a legitimate reason to lynch HF. I don’t see how someone can be that angry about something that they knew would happen. HF said he’d kill Palmar most the day, it was pretty clear. I’d expect the anger at the HF voters, where it should go. (Exactly like the trump wall).
People often say that people do things are either stupid or mafia. If Acrofales really thought HF was mafia, he’d just be spouting how HF is mafia with evidence, and the voters are the retards. But no, he knows HF is town, so he’ll say let’s kill him for being antiTown. I’d rather a town HF that fucks up, than a dead town HF. Plus, that would have been such a great play if Palmar was mafia. Would have been an epic play in the last tl game.
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense.
Clearly I'm reading this after asking for Acro case so I know some people think Acro is scum. However, I can't wrap my head around the first part of this post. Acro being angry at the guy who carried out the action more than the voters is pretty logical for a Townie to do. I myself have currently not mentioned the HF voters even though I'm aware they should be scrutinized even if HF flips Town (scum believing he would really kill Palmar and pile on).
Besides, you are also on the HF Mayor wagon. In fact, you're #1 . You want Acro to be angry at you? Because if he did show anger at you post vote this is downright alarming post central.
On March 06 2019 18:54 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
I’m 180ing on my Acrofales townread. I think the anger at HF is faked and made to look like he has a legitimate reason to lynch HF. I don’t see how someone can be that angry about something that they knew would happen. HF said he’d kill Palmar most the day, it was pretty clear. I’d expect the anger at the HF voters, where it should go. (Exactly like the trump wall).
People often say that people do things are either stupid or mafia. If Acrofales really thought HF was mafia, he’d just be spouting how HF is mafia with evidence, and the voters are the retards. But no, he knows HF is town, so he’ll say let’s kill him for being antiTown. I’d rather a town HF that fucks up, than a dead town HF. Plus, that would have been such a great play if Palmar was mafia. Would have been an epic play in the last tl game.
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense. What a worthless post, lol.
It actually isn't. You of all people should get the most out of it.
Page 206 is a shitfest.
On March 06 2019 20:01 Jockmcplop wrote:Ace looks like someone who's encouraging everyone to meta read him as town. Just from subtle posts like this: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:08 Ace wrote:On March 05 2019 05:01 Blazinghand wrote:On March 05 2019 04:59 iamperfection wrote:
Even you aren't this bad you have to be scum On March 05 2019 04:59 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 04:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.
##Mayor Palmar Catching up but nearly everything in this post is either wrong or disingenuous BH isn't in this game and unless this is some sort of last minute ploy to get him to come out, seeing as we've got 4 hours to deadline I don't approve of wasting a vote on a player who isn't even around to defend himself Turns out he was here all along, lurking until his train took out from the station. If he flips scum, I'm looking at you next. I just didn't expect this game to be so high in activity. I gave up on reading the thread and just did a couple searches of my name to see who was talking to me. Since I don't have an important role and I don't think I'll ever be able to catch up with all this, I figure I might as well be lynched first. Even if I'm spared, how will I catch up on these scores of pages? I don't know how I did this in the past, tbh. Dang homie. I remember you being fun to play with. Don't give up so early ^_^ Don't do it. Just look at the filter. The guy is scum.
If there is one person on this forum who will not play by meta it's me. I don't encourage anyone to meta read me.
Going to stop at page 207. Tomorrow I'll answer anything from my comeback in the thread around page 239 or so. I doubt I need to move my vote from Holyfield, but I am interested in hearing other cases (will read Acro stuff tomorrow).
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Ace should be mayor, if we remayor when mayor is lynched
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On March 07 2019 14:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Ace should be mayor, if we remayor when mayor is lynched i suspect you knew ace wasn't scum
you just didnt know he wasn't town.
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EPT
