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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 03 2019 18:49 GMT
#1241
On March 04 2019 03:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah, but Sentinel what does YOUR role pm say?

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm VT btw



Yeah but YOURS.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2019 18:49 GMT
#1242
On March 04 2019 03:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Becuase rels is being a piece of shit I did give my own reads too. I done playing I thoguht I wasn't goign to ruin into brickwalls but no I facing brickwalls in Tina, Hf, Rels, and you FF go fuck yourselves.


While it's nice to know certain ways of reading people remain reliable, lol >< I don't get this Tina is a brick wall thing.

-pokes- Chill. You're nowhere near topping the lynches.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 03 2019 18:50 GMT
#1243
On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 04 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah, but Sentinel what does YOUR role pm say?

On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm VT btw



Yeah but YOURS.

On March 04 2019 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
You're VT btw
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 03 2019 18:51 GMT
#1244
Oh come on please don't do that
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2019 18:52 GMT
#1245
On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
I think ls is mafia but I really don't like rsoul's massive 360 on him when I pointed it out.


-thumbs nose at-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 03 2019 18:52 GMT
#1246
It was a fucking joke dude jesus christ.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 03 2019 18:56 GMT
#1247
Acrofails is mafia.

I have mentioned his first post but i will mention it again because it makes my case longer and you guys like cases longer so it is easier for you to sheep

On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.

Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.

Thanks.

Acrofales, the townie.


Playing thread cop when announcing that your going to be away is illogical especially for someone like acro. This is a person that has had a 50 page filter before and he was also full of shit he has come back to the thread to post drivel several times. It also shows he isn't reading the thread correctly because he is scum. Thoses " claims" were clearly jokes and acro cant understand that because he knows who is scum.

He is also making reads but they aren't really reads.

On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-

Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?


100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.

Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.


Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.

I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.

HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:

You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.

And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.

Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.

#540
Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.




Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
Meap
Grack
Jock
Mr. Wiggles
Acro
Bloddy
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)

Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.


I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post.

1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material.

2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive.

3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications.

Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.

Does he think rsoultin is mafia i dont know can you tell? i certainly cant he is just showing shade without taking any real stance. Mafia hate making real reads because its hard when you have to "make them up" . Same think with cobbler he makes a somewhat read but its nothing if you really read.

He then goes into coaching and then makes a scum read but has to add some nonsense he dosent really want to convince anyone to do anything really.

On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 16:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.

Summary of the night:

##mayor Palmar


zzz

this is why the sent push is pointless

Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders.

And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town.


36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy.

And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit?

Though props for not being that guy at least.


People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO.

Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information.

Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above.

Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.





This post is ultra scummy. His stance on palmar reeks of having extra information one way or another. Palmar saying he is going to just policy lynch and fuck off should be called out by acro but instead he takes a wait and see approach because he dosent really care how it turns out. Acro is good player and he should be shitting on palamr for saying he is going to fuck off. Instead he says we will figure it out but dosent really suggest how to do it. Shouldnt he be puhing palmar now? why wait. he dosent really want to figure out palmars alignment because he already knows what it is.



On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


not really pushing anything and has several other posts where he attacks low hanging fruit just to feign activity. Acro is mafia and that is who i will vote for.

I want all of you to comment on my case and vote acro.



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2019 18:57 GMT
#1248
Not gonna lie, having trouble finding scum. Just a lot of could bes :/

Which Damdred has joined rather than being just null now so that's great lol >< blaaaah

Also not feeling a sentinel lynch so can we not just kinda leming that one through like mindless zombies and actually discuss it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 03 2019 19:00 GMT
#1249
i think its obvious that im town as well so just vote me for mayor. i don't think i've ever made a case as mafia.

Ill use the ability as another lynch during the night phase where we have to do votes and shit.
and lynch whoever we vote " although i would probably do what i want and just use it as a vig shot because im a dictator.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 03 2019 19:00 GMT
#1250
where you fuckers run off to comment on my case.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 03 2019 19:01 GMT
#1251
I'm reading it now perfection.

Give me a moment
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2019 19:02 GMT
#1252
On March 04 2019 03:56 iamperfection wrote:
Acrofails is mafia.

I have mentioned his first post but i will mention it again because it makes my case longer and you guys like cases longer so it is easier for you to sheep

Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.

Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.

Thanks.

Acrofales, the townie.


Playing thread cop when announcing that your going to be away is illogical especially for someone like acro. This is a person that has had a 50 page filter before and he was also full of shit he has come back to the thread to post drivel several times. It also shows he isn't reading the thread correctly because he is scum. Thoses " claims" were clearly jokes and acro cant understand that because he knows who is scum.

He is also making reads but they aren't really reads.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-

Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?


100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.

Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.


Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.

I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.

HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:

You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.

And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.

Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.

#540
Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.




Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
Meap
Grack
Jock
Mr. Wiggles
Acro
Bloddy
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)

Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.


I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post.

1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material.

2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive.

3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications.

Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.

Does he think rsoultin is mafia i dont know can you tell? i certainly cant he is just showing shade without taking any real stance. Mafia hate making real reads because its hard when you have to "make them up" . Same think with cobbler he makes a somewhat read but its nothing if you really read.

He then goes into coaching and then makes a scum read but has to add some nonsense he dosent really want to convince anyone to do anything really.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.

Summary of the night:

##mayor Palmar


zzz

this is why the sent push is pointless

Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders.

And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town.


36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy.

And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit?

Though props for not being that guy at least.


People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO.

Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information.

Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above.

Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.





This post is ultra scummy. His stance on palmar reeks of having extra information one way or another. Palmar saying he is going to just policy lynch and fuck off should be called out by acro but instead he takes a wait and see approach because he dosent really care how it turns out. Acro is good player and he should be shitting on palamr for saying he is going to fuck off. Instead he says we will figure it out but dosent really suggest how to do it. Shouldnt he be puhing palmar now? why wait. he dosent really want to figure out palmars alignment because he already knows what it is.



Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


not really pushing anything and has several other posts where he attacks low hanging fruit just to feign activity. Acro is mafia and that is who i will vote for.

I want all of you to comment on my case and vote acro.





I like this though ^^ maybe I'll just sheep you. There was something that had me doubting on Acro being scum but I don't remember what it was :/ which is always super helpful.

note to self: check again on Viva's conv thing cause don't think that guy has done anything, and grack

oh yeah and mz @.@

Why did I join a 35 player game? Rels >< lol we should shoot Rels just out of revenge. Chez actually should probably be left alone. Or not.

And who was it voting Palmar for mayor cause he thinks he's mafia? Was that Acro?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 03 2019 19:02 GMT
#1253
On March 04 2019 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: LightningStrike

##Unvote
##Vote: LightningStrike

##Unvote
##Vote: LightningStrike

##Unvote
##Vote: LightningStrike

##Unvote
##Vote: LightningStrike

There have it your way FF and Rels hope you guys fucking happy about lynching me

the fuck is this
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2019 19:02 GMT
#1254
On March 04 2019 04:00 iamperfection wrote:
i think its obvious that im town as well so just vote me for mayor. i don't think i've ever made a case as mafia.

Ill use the ability as another lynch during the night phase where we have to do votes and shit.
and lynch whoever we vote " although i would probably do what i want and just use it as a vig shot because im a dictator.


Is that how the mayor thing works? Then we really shouldn't be voting for Palmar.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 03 2019 19:03 GMT
#1255
On March 04 2019 04:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:56 iamperfection wrote:
Acrofails is mafia.

I have mentioned his first post but i will mention it again because it makes my case longer and you guys like cases longer so it is easier for you to sheep

On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.

Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.

Thanks.

Acrofales, the townie.


Playing thread cop when announcing that your going to be away is illogical especially for someone like acro. This is a person that has had a 50 page filter before and he was also full of shit he has come back to the thread to post drivel several times. It also shows he isn't reading the thread correctly because he is scum. Thoses " claims" were clearly jokes and acro cant understand that because he knows who is scum.

He is also making reads but they aren't really reads.

On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-

Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?


100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.

Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.


Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.

I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.

HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:

You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.

And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.

Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.

#540
Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.




Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
Meap
Grack
Jock
Mr. Wiggles
Acro
Bloddy
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)

Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.


I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post.

1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material.

2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive.

3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications.

Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.

Does he think rsoultin is mafia i dont know can you tell? i certainly cant he is just showing shade without taking any real stance. Mafia hate making real reads because its hard when you have to "make them up" . Same think with cobbler he makes a somewhat read but its nothing if you really read.

He then goes into coaching and then makes a scum read but has to add some nonsense he dosent really want to convince anyone to do anything really.

On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.

Summary of the night:

##mayor Palmar


zzz

this is why the sent push is pointless

Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders.

And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town.


36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy.

And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit?

Though props for not being that guy at least.


People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO.

Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information.

Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above.

Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.





This post is ultra scummy. His stance on palmar reeks of having extra information one way or another. Palmar saying he is going to just policy lynch and fuck off should be called out by acro but instead he takes a wait and see approach because he dosent really care how it turns out. Acro is good player and he should be shitting on palamr for saying he is going to fuck off. Instead he says we will figure it out but dosent really suggest how to do it. Shouldnt he be puhing palmar now? why wait. he dosent really want to figure out palmars alignment because he already knows what it is.



On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


not really pushing anything and has several other posts where he attacks low hanging fruit just to feign activity. Acro is mafia and that is who i will vote for.

I want all of you to comment on my case and vote acro.





I like this though ^^ maybe I'll just sheep you. There was something that had me doubting on Acro being scum but I don't remember what it was :/ which is always super helpful.

note to self: check again on Viva's conv thing cause don't think that guy has done anything, and grack

oh yeah and mz @.@

Why did I join a 35 player game? Rels >< lol we should shoot Rels just out of revenge. Chez actually should probably be left alone. Or not.

And who was it voting Palmar for mayor cause he thinks he's mafia? Was that Acro?

????
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 03 2019 19:03 GMT
#1256
On March 04 2019 04:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 04:00 iamperfection wrote:
i think its obvious that im town as well so just vote me for mayor. i don't think i've ever made a case as mafia.

Ill use the ability as another lynch during the night phase where we have to do votes and shit.
and lynch whoever we vote " although i would probably do what i want and just use it as a vig shot because im a dictator.


Is that how the mayor thing works? Then we really shouldn't be voting for Palmar.

why are you asking me can you not think on your own.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 03 2019 19:04 GMT
#1257
i dont like your reaction to my case it struck me as fake
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 03 2019 19:04 GMT
#1258
I like your case and it seems you believe it after all...
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2019 19:05 GMT
#1259
On March 04 2019 04:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 04:02 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 03:56 iamperfection wrote:
Acrofails is mafia.

I have mentioned his first post but i will mention it again because it makes my case longer and you guys like cases longer so it is easier for you to sheep

On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.

Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.

Thanks.

Acrofales, the townie.


Playing thread cop when announcing that your going to be away is illogical especially for someone like acro. This is a person that has had a 50 page filter before and he was also full of shit he has come back to the thread to post drivel several times. It also shows he isn't reading the thread correctly because he is scum. Thoses " claims" were clearly jokes and acro cant understand that because he knows who is scum.

He is also making reads but they aren't really reads.

On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-

Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?


100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.

Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.


Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.

I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.

HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:

You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.

And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.

Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.

#540
Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.




Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
Meap
Grack
Jock
Mr. Wiggles
Acro
Bloddy
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)

Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.


I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post.

1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material.

2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive.

3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications.

Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.

Does he think rsoultin is mafia i dont know can you tell? i certainly cant he is just showing shade without taking any real stance. Mafia hate making real reads because its hard when you have to "make them up" . Same think with cobbler he makes a somewhat read but its nothing if you really read.

He then goes into coaching and then makes a scum read but has to add some nonsense he dosent really want to convince anyone to do anything really.

On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.

Summary of the night:

##mayor Palmar


zzz

this is why the sent push is pointless

Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders.

And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town.


36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy.

And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit?

Though props for not being that guy at least.


People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO.

Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information.

Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above.

Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.





This post is ultra scummy. His stance on palmar reeks of having extra information one way or another. Palmar saying he is going to just policy lynch and fuck off should be called out by acro but instead he takes a wait and see approach because he dosent really care how it turns out. Acro is good player and he should be shitting on palamr for saying he is going to fuck off. Instead he says we will figure it out but dosent really suggest how to do it. Shouldnt he be puhing palmar now? why wait. he dosent really want to figure out palmars alignment because he already knows what it is.



On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


not really pushing anything and has several other posts where he attacks low hanging fruit just to feign activity. Acro is mafia and that is who i will vote for.

I want all of you to comment on my case and vote acro.





I like this though ^^ maybe I'll just sheep you. There was something that had me doubting on Acro being scum but I don't remember what it was :/ which is always super helpful.

note to self: check again on Viva's conv thing cause don't think that guy has done anything, and grack

oh yeah and mz @.@

Why did I join a 35 player game? Rels >< lol we should shoot Rels just out of revenge. Chez actually should probably be left alone. Or not.

And who was it voting Palmar for mayor cause he thinks he's mafia? Was that Acro?

????


This post was mostly just for me, sorry. We've got a friend coming to live with us out of South Africa tomorrow, and the deadline is shit for me anyway so I'm not sure if I'll have much time for this game after tonight.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 03 2019 19:05 GMT
#1260
On March 04 2019 04:04 Damdred wrote:
I like your case and it seems you believe it after all...

is that a vote?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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