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On March 07 2019 12:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh sicklucker is scum too
I am interested in your reasoning
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Ace, let me open my heart for you.
I've joined TL Mafia in 2015. I've played a number of games since, exactly 1 more than you actually going by the list kita posted in this thread. I had great moments, I had great rage quits, and I met some great people, most of which are excellent mafia players. I even made friends with a few of them. TL Mafia is a part of my life now.
During all those games, your legend was always there. The best mafia player. The one there at the beginning. The teacher. The god. You're supposed to be great at solving games when you're town. You're supposed to be unbeatable for you're mafia. And in this game, I'm seeing neither, and I'm kinda disappointed.
Please show me I'm wrong.
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On March 06 2019 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
also one of rayn and holyflare is always mafia here. the other kept the other alive for obv reasons. they suck each others thumbs
Can you explain this reasoning more?
On March 06 2019 09:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 09:46 AMG wrote:On March 06 2019 09:01 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 09:00 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi + AMG i reckon.
AMG is a good player Could have fooled me. Now youre just being rude. This didnt happen by accident: On December 25 2012 14:00 kitaman27 wrote:
TL Mafia Database
Overall Win Percentage (Minimum 15 games)
1) Adam4167 11/15 = 73.3333%
Town Win Percentage (Minimum 10 games)
1) Adam4167 9/12 = 75.0000%
Do you plan to be a jerk all game? Do you think you've done anything this game worthy of being shot after you have replaced in? I don't think so, especially over the people that actually got shot. It's not an insult to you, I don't know how you play at all. You have even specifically said your play is inhibited by real life so why is this me being a jerk and not just realistic? Sorry if you got offended.
Lol. I mean, come on.
On March 06 2019 10:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
whoever the vig is probably shot iamp or marv both had a little shade on them and some rambo shennagan user like ff or dandred could have easily done it. IF hf is claiming vig this makes it very easy Why in the world would a potential vig shoot outside of HF/BH?
Dang IKR.
On March 06 2019 10:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Stop the speculation. Probably scum kp, leave it at that.
Ugh my short lived boner has been killed
Scum having 4 KP? Or 3 KP plus a 1 shot? Why wouldn't you speculate on this? Best to figure out what are plausible roles in the game with our limited information. We have another set of bad day/night and we might as well start thinking about a mass claim.
On March 06 2019 10:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I'm going to stick around for the next 5 hours or so and see what I can find.
I need to see cooler heads prevail here even though I think HF is a dumbass. I have nothing against lynching Palmar day 1. I just think that Palmar's posts this game were pretty obviously high quality posts ignoring his name.
HF is probably not mafia. Early in the day multiple people said that he was a worse mayor choice than Palmar because he was liable to do something stupid. I knew he would do something stupid. His ego tells him that the only way that Palmar can have more votes than him is if Palmar is mafia. To no surprise he does something stupid. There is maybe a 10% chance that HF makes a calculated play as mafia to get rid of Palmar knowing he can talk his way out of the lynch the next day.
K, let's pretend Holyflare really did think this is true. Is it too much of a stretch to say these 2 events have to also exist:
1.) Holyflare thinks Palmar is scum, and is also being boosted by Scum votes
2.) Holyflare accuses and actually pushes the people on the Palmar wagon more than anywhere else, showing he really thinks there is a scum party.
If this does not happen, then he doesn't really think Palmar is Mafia. At least not for the reason listed here.
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On March 07 2019 12:17 Rels wrote:So: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think if you lean red on everyone it's only slightly better than leaning green on everyone. I'd almost call it a scum play Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean Oats because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.
Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
There's actually two parts missing. "I'd almost call it a scum play [but] Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean [red on] Oats because even with..."
That being said, it's the slightest of scum leans and I never grouped him in my lynch targets like Trfel, LS, etc.
meh. Maybe. It's kinda weak
Honestly I've been mostly going just off Palmar/Marv's take on Sentinel for my read so far but I'm wading into his filter now and it's really not pretty.
Read here:
On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case?
His read on TT is In line with thread sentiment as he said in the post. Later in his big reads post he drops a scum read on TT based off the same early game posts that he already read when he called TT town the first time. (note the timestamps.)
+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:7) TictockI'll be happy voting for him if only to get him to stop putting all his reads in spoilers Here are some of his noteworthy takes Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind
Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall. I agree with this for the same reason. More on this in my Meapak DD in the next post Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Ehh, I can't make up my mind what I want to say about this, I agree with him (which typically gives me townfeels for Damdred) but this feels like an easy, "free" read and post from Damdred. For some reason was noteworty to me... idk. Dam Trfel... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
For real though trfl why do you say 7? Honestly, just guessing. Seems like the right number, that or six, I'd rather overestimate than underestimate. As to why, I figured it would be eye-catching  You said(typed) it with such confidence though, I Believed... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
You got that from him saying that he's always town? I know because I'm masons with ls. Ok... Damdred Probs town. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+ I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. Holyflare, Great detective work! I would love to have you on my team as lead investigator! I will be sure that the corporate office hear of this amazing discovery! Best, ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/vDCUUiL.png?2) Chezinu Isunizehc Why does this game irrelevant post get praise from you Chez? + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons  Honest to a fault... Totes town.
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet. What's interesting here is that the foundation of all of this is LS's first three posts. I don't know which three posts qualify but up to the "me and Damdred aren't masons" LS has posted nothing of substance, town or not. Damdy is town because he agrees with LS. He's masons with LS and LS is town so they can't be scum together. Oops LS isn't a mason but LS is town and Damdy is still town because he said LS is town. His justification is Show nested quote +LS can be a hard player to read, but all these posts are honest sadness that people are starting to play for real and not just joke around and shoot the breeze as many recent games have started.
Not saying I have some kinda God-Read on him or anything, but that is how I try to and what I get from those posts. So all of his town reads by association come from a belief that LS is honest. And that belief is predicated on the fact that LS was joking around. Show nested quote +HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
...
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) I think this is colored by TT's dislike of HF Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch. I don't like this post because he started with a gutread on her and acted off that information throughout the game, leading to the conclusion: rsoultin is town. It cheapens the value of all the evidence he posts afterward to support the fact rsoultin is town. Leaning red
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I'm pushing for this Sentinel lynch today and if he flips scum there will be enough information from the mayor votes to solve the game.
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Oatsmaster wrote in asking:
On March 07 2019 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 01:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 07 2019 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think this should be a goal for the day.
I want people to commit to something.
NOW.
Hey Wiggles, you're here, where's your vote going, buddeh? Let's kill BH. I'd rather see that flip than kill HF right now. He doesn't give good vibes with how he's playing. I'm OK sheeping this: On March 05 2019 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Bh is unacceptable and he has had plenty of time to do something productive he is scum On March 05 2019 05:12 iamperfection wrote:
Kill bh he is full of crap he is scum On March 05 2019 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
My phone is gonna die vote bh Little bit of why bh doesn’t give you good vibes please wiggles?
Well dear caller, our read on BH is coloured most by the flip-flopping about actually playing in this game. Will he or won't he? He comes in, says, "Kill me! Lynch me! Vig me and spit on my grave!". Then the next day he comes back and says, "I'm not dead yet. Maybe I'll start playing the game! Here's the start of some analysis.". Then he decides to give up and goes back to asking for the sweet release of death. This is when the vicious cycle begins once again.
Fundamentally, this is anti-town, and I have been reading it as scum. Reading through the thread, the posts in the last few hours look to have improved at least, but that also happened during N1 for a while before BH went back to martyring. If the wagon on HF goes through and he flips town like I'm thinking, I give it a good chance BH goes back to asking to die. Assuming there's no vig shots available we'll have the BH issue distracting from D3 as well.
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On March 07 2019 12:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:17 Rels wrote:So: On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think if you lean red on everyone it's only slightly better than leaning green on everyone. I'd almost call it a scum play Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean Oats because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.
On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. On March 06 2019 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
There's actually two parts missing. "I'd almost call it a scum play [but] Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean [red on] Oats because even with..."
That being said, it's the slightest of scum leans and I never grouped him in my lynch targets like Trfel, LS, etc.
meh. Maybe. It's kinda weak Honestly I've been mostly going just off Palmar/Marv's take on Sentinel for my read so far but I'm wading into his filter now and it's really not pretty. Read here: Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case? His read on TT is In line with thread sentiment as he said in the post. Later in his big reads post he drops a scum read on TT based off the same early game posts that he already read when he called TT town the first time. (note the timestamps.) + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:7) TictockI'll be happy voting for him if only to get him to stop putting all his reads in spoilers Here are some of his noteworthy takes Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind
Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall. I agree with this for the same reason. More on this in my Meapak DD in the next post Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Ehh, I can't make up my mind what I want to say about this, I agree with him (which typically gives me townfeels for Damdred) but this feels like an easy, "free" read and post from Damdred. For some reason was noteworty to me... idk. Dam Trfel... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
For real though trfl why do you say 7? Honestly, just guessing. Seems like the right number, that or six, I'd rather overestimate than underestimate. As to why, I figured it would be eye-catching You said(typed) it with such confidence though, I Believed... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
You got that from him saying that he's always town? I know because I'm masons with ls. Ok... Damdred Probs town. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+ I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. Holyflare, Great detective work! I would love to have you on my team as lead investigator! I will be sure that the corporate office hear of this amazing discovery! Best, Chezinu Isunizehc Why does this game irrelevant post get praise from you Chez? + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Honest to a fault... Totes town.
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet. What's interesting here is that the foundation of all of this is LS's first three posts. I don't know which three posts qualify but up to the "me and Damdred aren't masons" LS has posted nothing of substance, town or not. Damdy is town because he agrees with LS. He's masons with LS and LS is town so they can't be scum together. Oops LS isn't a mason but LS is town and Damdy is still town because he said LS is town. His justification is Show nested quote +LS can be a hard player to read, but all these posts are honest sadness that people are starting to play for real and not just joke around and shoot the breeze as many recent games have started.
Not saying I have some kinda God-Read on him or anything, but that is how I try to and what I get from those posts. So all of his town reads by association come from a belief that LS is honest. And that belief is predicated on the fact that LS was joking around. Show nested quote +HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
...
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) I think this is colored by TT's dislike of HF Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch. I don't like this post because he started with a gutread on her and acted off that information throughout the game, leading to the conclusion: rsoultin is town. It cheapens the value of all the evidence he posts afterward to support the fact rsoultin is town. Leaning red
man did TT really post nothing between these 2 posts ??? this is looking mych better
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oh yeah I understand what you mean, even better! He read TT posts, thinks he's town, then uses them later to explain his scumread
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I am around was playing some scbw with my friend after playing pokemon if anyone wants to talk. Also I saw your answer rels and fair play. I got some more questions for you and it same ones I gave tina:
lWhat you think of EoD in terms of like spread of the mafia votes on the following scenarios:
If BH is Town?
If BH is Scum?
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On March 07 2019 12:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I am around was playing some scbw with my friend after playing pokemon if anyone wants to talk. Also I saw your answer rels and fair play. I got some more questions for you and it same ones I gave tina:
What you think of EoD in terms of like spread of the mafia votes on the following scenarios:
If BH is Town?
If BH is Scum?
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What os the post in question and where does sentinel clearly do that? I cant see it.
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On March 07 2019 12:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am interested in your reasoning
He called everyone I think is scum town and that's about it I guess I could read him
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On March 07 2019 12:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I am around was playing some scbw with my friend after playing pokemon if anyone wants to talk. Also I saw your answer rels and fair play. I got some more questions for you and it same ones I gave tina:
lWhat you think of EoD in terms of like spread of the mafia votes on the following scenarios:
If BH is Town?
If BH is Scum?
given BH begged to be lynched, there is anything worthwhile to analyze in the vote. If he's scum, his team has known for a long time he's a likely D1 lynch and has planned accordingly. If he's town, well, same thing. THe only thing is that scum probably didn't vote en masse for the same guy, but that's not specific to this vote, more of a general rule
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On March 07 2019 12:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:40 Grackaroni wrote:On March 07 2019 12:17 Rels wrote:So: On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think if you lean red on everyone it's only slightly better than leaning green on everyone. I'd almost call it a scum play Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean Oats because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.
On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. On March 06 2019 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
There's actually two parts missing. "I'd almost call it a scum play [but] Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean [red on] Oats because even with..."
That being said, it's the slightest of scum leans and I never grouped him in my lynch targets like Trfel, LS, etc.
meh. Maybe. It's kinda weak Honestly I've been mostly going just off Palmar/Marv's take on Sentinel for my read so far but I'm wading into his filter now and it's really not pretty. Read here: On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case? His read on TT is In line with thread sentiment as he said in the post. Later in his big reads post he drops a scum read on TT based off the same early game posts that he already read when he called TT town the first time. (note the timestamps.) + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:7) TictockI'll be happy voting for him if only to get him to stop putting all his reads in spoilers Here are some of his noteworthy takes Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind
Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall. I agree with this for the same reason. More on this in my Meapak DD in the next post Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Ehh, I can't make up my mind what I want to say about this, I agree with him (which typically gives me townfeels for Damdred) but this feels like an easy, "free" read and post from Damdred. For some reason was noteworty to me... idk. Dam Trfel... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
For real though trfl why do you say 7? Honestly, just guessing. Seems like the right number, that or six, I'd rather overestimate than underestimate. As to why, I figured it would be eye-catching You said(typed) it with such confidence though, I Believed... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
You got that from him saying that he's always town? I know because I'm masons with ls. Ok... Damdred Probs town. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+ I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. Holyflare, Great detective work! I would love to have you on my team as lead investigator! I will be sure that the corporate office hear of this amazing discovery! Best, Chezinu Isunizehc Why does this game irrelevant post get praise from you Chez? + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Honest to a fault... Totes town.
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet. What's interesting here is that the foundation of all of this is LS's first three posts. I don't know which three posts qualify but up to the "me and Damdred aren't masons" LS has posted nothing of substance, town or not. Damdy is town because he agrees with LS. He's masons with LS and LS is town so they can't be scum together. Oops LS isn't a mason but LS is town and Damdy is still town because he said LS is town. His justification is Show nested quote +LS can be a hard player to read, but all these posts are honest sadness that people are starting to play for real and not just joke around and shoot the breeze as many recent games have started.
Not saying I have some kinda God-Read on him or anything, but that is how I try to and what I get from those posts. So all of his town reads by association come from a belief that LS is honest. And that belief is predicated on the fact that LS was joking around. Show nested quote +HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
...
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) I think this is colored by TT's dislike of HF Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch. I don't like this post because he started with a gutread on her and acted off that information throughout the game, leading to the conclusion: rsoultin is town. It cheapens the value of all the evidence he posts afterward to support the fact rsoultin is town. Leaning red man did TT really post nothing between these 2 posts ??? this is looking mych better
Everything that Sentinel later quotes for TT being scum occur before Sentinel town reads him. The one thing I'll say is that he takes a hard stance towards LS in his big post and maybe that causes him to re-evaluate, but I'm still pretty suspicious of his town read in the first place then if he dislikes those posts so much.
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Our dedicated fan Oatsmaster also writes in:
On March 07 2019 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off. This should make wriggles town to him right because he does the exact same things as wriggles
This is a funny point that was missed on my first read through. If Tubesock thinks my play looks the same as what I've been pointing out in his, then he should probably read me similarly to his own alignment. If he thinks that makes me look like mafia, that's probably that scum guilt eating him up inside. Oats didn't let that slip slip his attention. Bravo!
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On March 07 2019 12:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What os the post in question and where does sentinel clearly do that? I cant see it.
just open the spoiler in Grack's post
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On March 07 2019 12:48 Rels wrote:
oh yeah I understand what you mean, even better! He read TT posts, thinks he's town, then uses them later to explain his scumread
skimmed is probably a better word
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On March 06 2019 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
well usualy things like cop vig doctor veteran are needed for town to win mafia games. we have none of those anymore and no mafia killed. if we dont kill a mafia tonight were 8-9 town down with little power roles you do the math
On March 06 2019 10:24 Holyflare wrote:
I think we easily have a few more days left, like 3 or something. What are mafia powers gonna do against no roles? Nothing.
On March 06 2019 10:25 Holyflare wrote:
Claiming vig would be the dumbest thing anybody could do right now, please don't do it.
Well, Scum don't really need that many power roles to stomp town so 1st quote from HF is just eh. We also don't know what PRs they have as it's a closed setup. The 2nd quote is damn sensible though.
On March 06 2019 10:38 Holyflare wrote:
Would appreciate if we could get some vote analysis and scum reads going on guys, that'd be good.
Motherfucker...gotta admit. I like his style.
On March 06 2019 10:41 Holyflare wrote:
also how in the fuck if BH is mafia am I mafia? I'm the one that orchestrated the start of the lynch BH wagon
Sentinel, BH, Palmar. Damn broski, just pulling names out a hat huh?
On March 06 2019 10:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:BC is a scummers. This post before deadline reeks: + Show Spoiler +On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else. Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you. So no I am not down for lynching him -_- If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison. We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing. So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. How about instead we look into this pool. Onegu Why? 1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt. 2) Reads currently given have no substance to them 3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements 4) Basically just has posts with 0 content Iamperfection I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it. Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons. He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum. He gets to come in, yell at town, and then set himself up to look vindicated if Palmar dies. No comments on any of the active wagons of which we know two (trfel, conv) were town, and says he disagrees with some of Palmar's reads without going into specifics. Very easy way to posture for 'town points' without needing to commit to anything. Besides that he's jumped on a couple other points but hasn't accomplished any real scum hunting in thread.
Wiggles, not sure of the timing of the vote nor do I really disagree with this post. But I just checked the voting thread quickly and see BC has a vote on HF. Unless he finds reason to move, do you think BC + HF is a possible scum team? I also called BC scummy for the post near last EOD but outside of this do you sense scum motive from him?
On March 06 2019 10:51 Onegu wrote:
Can we lynch rsoultin or damdred. Rsoul for her terrible read of me. And Damdred for TMI I really hated that post.
I definitely missed this. Which post in particular?
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On March 07 2019 12:54 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:46 Rels wrote:On March 07 2019 12:40 Grackaroni wrote:On March 07 2019 12:17 Rels wrote:So: On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think if you lean red on everyone it's only slightly better than leaning green on everyone. I'd almost call it a scum play Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean Oats because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.
On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. On March 06 2019 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
There's actually two parts missing. "I'd almost call it a scum play [but] Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean [red on] Oats because even with..."
That being said, it's the slightest of scum leans and I never grouped him in my lynch targets like Trfel, LS, etc.
meh. Maybe. It's kinda weak Honestly I've been mostly going just off Palmar/Marv's take on Sentinel for my read so far but I'm wading into his filter now and it's really not pretty. Read here: On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case? His read on TT is In line with thread sentiment as he said in the post. Later in his big reads post he drops a scum read on TT based off the same early game posts that he already read when he called TT town the first time. (note the timestamps.) + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:7) TictockI'll be happy voting for him if only to get him to stop putting all his reads in spoilers Here are some of his noteworthy takes Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind
Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall. I agree with this for the same reason. More on this in my Meapak DD in the next post Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Ehh, I can't make up my mind what I want to say about this, I agree with him (which typically gives me townfeels for Damdred) but this feels like an easy, "free" read and post from Damdred. For some reason was noteworty to me... idk. Dam Trfel... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
For real though trfl why do you say 7? Honestly, just guessing. Seems like the right number, that or six, I'd rather overestimate than underestimate. As to why, I figured it would be eye-catching You said(typed) it with such confidence though, I Believed... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
You got that from him saying that he's always town? I know because I'm masons with ls. Ok... Damdred Probs town. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+ I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. Holyflare, Great detective work! I would love to have you on my team as lead investigator! I will be sure that the corporate office hear of this amazing discovery! Best, Chezinu Isunizehc Why does this game irrelevant post get praise from you Chez? + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Honest to a fault... Totes town.
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet. What's interesting here is that the foundation of all of this is LS's first three posts. I don't know which three posts qualify but up to the "me and Damdred aren't masons" LS has posted nothing of substance, town or not. Damdy is town because he agrees with LS. He's masons with LS and LS is town so they can't be scum together. Oops LS isn't a mason but LS is town and Damdy is still town because he said LS is town. His justification is Show nested quote +LS can be a hard player to read, but all these posts are honest sadness that people are starting to play for real and not just joke around and shoot the breeze as many recent games have started.
Not saying I have some kinda God-Read on him or anything, but that is how I try to and what I get from those posts. So all of his town reads by association come from a belief that LS is honest. And that belief is predicated on the fact that LS was joking around. Show nested quote +HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
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HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) I think this is colored by TT's dislike of HF Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch. I don't like this post because he started with a gutread on her and acted off that information throughout the game, leading to the conclusion: rsoultin is town. It cheapens the value of all the evidence he posts afterward to support the fact rsoultin is town. Leaning red man did TT really post nothing between these 2 posts ??? this is looking mych better Everything that Sentinel later quotes for TT being scum occur before Sentinel town reads him. The one thing I'll say is that he takes a hard stance towards LS in his big post and maybe that causes him to re-evaluate, but I'm still pretty suspicious of his town read in the first place then if he dislikes those posts so much.
Okay that is quite damning.
Sentinel explain?
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On March 07 2019 12:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I am around was playing some scbw with my friend after playing pokemon if anyone wants to talk. Also I saw your answer rels and fair play. I got some more questions for you and it same ones I gave tina:
lWhat you think of EoD in terms of like spread of the mafia votes on the following scenarios:
If BH is Town?
If BH is Scum? given BH begged to be lynched, there is anything worthwhile to analyze in the vote. If he's scum, his team has known for a long time he's a likely D1 lynch and has planned accordingly. If he's town, well, same thing. THe only thing is that scum probably didn't vote en masse for the same guy, but that's not specific to this vote, more of a general rule
Noted. I think if BH was scum then could have a few on both of the main wagons and maybe a outlier vote? If BH is town mafia had a field day and laughed their asses off I think.
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