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On June 01 2018 04:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:35 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum? Ya mainly because I would imagine you actually laughing and cheering for a potential free lynch but no you were super angry regarding that entire notion don't think you could do that scum knowing you very well. Wouldn't it be way too scummy? I mean, wouldn't scum fake being worried?
Maybe but highly doubt it from you since I known you for to long for you to do that as scum.
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On June 01 2018 04:46 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:21 LightningStrike wrote:You know what GB I going to just do some work now starting with Vote count On May 27 2018 08:04 Calix wrote:
Day 1 Final Vote Count
Jealous [3]: raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, GlowingBear, Holyflare Koshi [2]: fuba, Holyflare, LightningStrikedarthfoley [2]: Rels, GlowingBear Grackaroni [1]: GlowingBear, Holyflare, darthfoley Rels [1]: Koshi, Grackaroni GlowingBear [1]: Holyflare, byj, Holyflarebyj [1]: JealousHolyflare [0]: raynpelikoneetLightningStrike [0]: byjraynpelikoneet [0]: GlowingBear, Holyflarefuba [0]: GlowingBearNot Voting [0]:
Jealous is the lynch.
The deadline is Saturday, May 26 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
If there is an error in the vote count, you can speak up now before I post the flip ^^ This all the confirmed/UnCCed stuff since I know mafia hold their shot. If Fuba was actually mafia then I was actually voting with mafia Day 1. If HF was mafia and knowing Koshi's alignment how come Mafia HF would lynch Jealous over Koshi Day 1 in that scenario? Doesn't make sense. I don't think Rels is mafia on filter but he's a pretty good scum player so by POE it would of been you df and byj. Now if mafia did shoot you then you're 100% scum so by PoE after that it is byj and df which is a bit strange as I never really read their filter tighly nor do I got a good case. My view of HF's actions D1 is that he was faced with three options: He "hammers" Jealous, he hammers DF, or he hammers Koshi. This will get complicated where DF is concerned, so I guess there's 4 options. HF hammers scum DF: He is seen as pretty firmly town, but GB is also seen as pretty firmly town cuz shenannies. A pretty good option. HF hammers town DF: Probably not good! Especially if we flip Jealous the next day and find out that DF was a counter-scum wagon. Terrible option. HF hammers town Koshi: Pretty much the same scenario as with town DF, but with more backlash. He is under scrutiny, people wonder why he didn't hammer either of the other two people, and this draws attention to Jealous, HF, and DF day 2. Regardless of DF's alignment, this is bad for scum!HF. HF hammers scum Jealous: This is the best of both worlds for HF (aside from losing a scumbuddy, albeit one who was barely playing at the end of D1 and would have been under constant scrutiny the whole game). GB switches from Jealous to DF. HF pretends he's going along with it, knowing that when he actually votes Jealous, and Jealous flips scum, that GB will look bad for shenannying off a scum wagon. This works whether DF is scum or not - either HF was forced into this decision by picking between two scumbuddies, or he didn't want to be the hammer on a town shenannywagon to save his relatively inactive scumbuddy. Also, if DF is scum, it kind of set him up as a "town counterwagon" to the scum Jealous wagon, simply by virtue of the aggression HF showed to GB after the flip. HF has given himself a reason to go hard against GB even though most people kind of agreed that GB was pretty townie.
That is a good point but I don't think HF would risk it that early in the game by putting himself into a hole like that.
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On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before????
From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some).
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GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels.
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On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before???? From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some). But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon?
Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous
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On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town?
1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post.
2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<
3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.
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On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before???? From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some). But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective.
I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes.
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On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it until today just was badly executed >.< 3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.
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On June 01 2018 04:41 byj wrote:
##Vote: fuba
What somewhat bothers me is that, if fuba really was town, he didn't get lynched. In that case Mafia probably would've had an easy time to get me lynched considering many people seem to be suspicious of me. That would allow them to be 1 step from victory, and maybe help them with a later Koshi lynch. If both fuba and Koshi were town I see no reason for them to choose Koshi.
They could split their vote to 1:1 on both wagons if both are town though you never thought of that?
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On June 01 2018 05:17 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 05:13 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:41 byj wrote:
##Vote: fuba
What somewhat bothers me is that, if fuba really was town, he didn't get lynched. In that case Mafia probably would've had an easy time to get me lynched considering many people seem to be suspicious of me. That would allow them to be 1 step from victory, and maybe help them with a later Koshi lynch. If both fuba and Koshi were town I see no reason for them to choose Koshi. They could split their vote to 1:1 on both wagons if both are town though you never thought of that? Why 1:1 if you can just 0:1 and get fuba through?
how would 0:1 be a possibility if grack is confirmed town and GB was also voting HF EoD 2(thinking)
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On June 01 2018 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
On a really surface level kind of bull shit way I think the way LS has been repeatedly defending me is kind of off. Sure, I voted for mafia but that hasn't really stopped a lot of you (rightly) pointing out that I've been underwhelming and ham fisting my way into votes.
Because if you were mafia you did probably one of the biggest bloopers since disformation nuking himself in Host Revenge. I don't think you would do that as mafia at all because you are a smart person.
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On June 01 2018 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
Why are you martyring against nothing LS?
It was a reaction test did you not read the thread lmao.
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On June 01 2018 05:16 GlowingBear wrote:
You know what, LS?
I'll meta you later at night. For now, there are some posts that makes me think you might be town despite those problems I pointed out. Maybe you truly believe that.
Our best bet today is darthfoley. I'll show why.
Just don't drink all the whisky when you do it. Please bring a good case for the people to sheep!
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On June 01 2018 06:34 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
Why are you martyring against nothing LS? It was a reaction test did you not read the thread lmao. I guess I missed it. Why were you reaction testing GB though and what did you get out of it?
To get a better read on GB and concluded even more town than before. On mobile atm.
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I back home if anyone wants to talk.
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Just woke up:
On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ? Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real.
I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike
On June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me. Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ? Found this, is it what you're talkign about ? Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^
That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test.
On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1: Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1: Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before???? From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some). But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective. I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes. Why ? What changed ?
My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD.
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On June 01 2018 20:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:43 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. ls is either confirmed town or bming the game btw so that's cool I was going to ask the mods to at least tell fuba and df to post since they only had 2 posts for df at that point and 0 for fuba. I just going to see fuba get replaced most likely. Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< These still look forced after rereading them.
That was me being a bit of an ass in the first post but see earlier in the thread in response to GB regarding the second post.
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On June 01 2018 23:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up: On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ? Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real. I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrikeOn June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me. Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ? Found this, is it what you're talkign about ? On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^ That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test. On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1: On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1: On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait
LS, you thought fuba was scum before???? From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some). But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective. I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes. Why ? What changed ? My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD. Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike&page=7 Middle of the page area.
Not as elaborate as this one but still was a reaction test to see if I could bite a scum or two.
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