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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 27 2015 21:46 GMT
#6
/in
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LightningStrike
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United States14277 Posts
June 05 2015 20:06 GMT
#61
/confirm
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LightningStrike
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Last Edited: 2015-06-06 15:43:50
June 06 2015 03:52 GMT
#90
Pregame Excuse: Going to be at Houston for Friday and Saturday coming home Sunday and will have limited access to a computer so if my activity drops off there that's why.
Edit: This for next week
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 00:32 GMT
#95
On June 07 2015 07:30 Kickstart wrote:
Oats plz! If you don't confirm you are forcing us to play with the angry yam man!!!! Spare usssssss!

Yamato is nicer than you think :o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:26 GMT
#126
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:32 GMT
#132
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

The you suggesting it every smurf who doesn't out their aka is scum which is flawed logic....
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:35 GMT
#134
So Breshke any thoughts on Wherebugsgo right now?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:49 GMT
#144
On June 08 2015 08:44 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
So Breshke any thoughts on Wherebugsgo right now?


not really. Do you?

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
Hi

On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.


So do you think someone that has chosen to smurf is more likely to reveal who they are as town or mafia then?


I think they would be more likely to reveal themselves as town.

Granted, a smurf does not have to reveal themselves to be useful to town. I have smurfed myself, and the reason I do it is often quite simple-most people don't ask, and those who do can be placated by providing opinions and good reads. I have never had the luxury of rolling scum while smurfing, but if I ever did I do not doubt it would be one of the easiest ways to achieve victory.

It is plainly obvious why smurfing is far more advantageous to the individual player than the team as a whole. The town only benefits if the player who is smurfing is a high caliber town player, rolls town, and escapes getting shot night 1 due to being a smurf. Otherwise, town stands to gain nothing from a mediocre townie or a bad townie smurfing other than a lack of insight into the player's behaviour.

You should always hold smurfs to a higher standard because if they refuse to reveal their identity then you have no background to be working with. You have no expectation of their play, and an ordinarily good townie has rolled scum on a smurf you have no way of knowing.


Yeah I understand this but that doesn't make not revealing who you are to be alignment indicative. If someone has chosen to smurf they have chosen pre game that they probably don't want to reveal who they are. I feel like saying, reveal yourself or get lynched, is a waste because it depends on the player on how they will act so you can't really get much from that.

Also to talk about this now instead of when mafia will be trying to hunt roles. I think it is best in at least the first phase that a lot of the chosen powers are information type roles specifically scrying

I kinda dislike his pressure on FreezingFoot since FreezingFoot could be a smurf and him calling him out so early just seems like it's a preplanned motion from him regardless of his alignment so null.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:50 GMT
#145
Also sure it would be nice knowing FreezingFoot's aka but it's not as important as finding scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:56 GMT
#149
On June 08 2015 08:51 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:44 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
So Breshke any thoughts on Wherebugsgo right now?


not really. Do you?

On June 08 2015 08:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
Hi

On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.


So do you think someone that has chosen to smurf is more likely to reveal who they are as town or mafia then?


I think they would be more likely to reveal themselves as town.

Granted, a smurf does not have to reveal themselves to be useful to town. I have smurfed myself, and the reason I do it is often quite simple-most people don't ask, and those who do can be placated by providing opinions and good reads. I have never had the luxury of rolling scum while smurfing, but if I ever did I do not doubt it would be one of the easiest ways to achieve victory.

It is plainly obvious why smurfing is far more advantageous to the individual player than the team as a whole. The town only benefits if the player who is smurfing is a high caliber town player, rolls town, and escapes getting shot night 1 due to being a smurf. Otherwise, town stands to gain nothing from a mediocre townie or a bad townie smurfing other than a lack of insight into the player's behaviour.

You should always hold smurfs to a higher standard because if they refuse to reveal their identity then you have no background to be working with. You have no expectation of their play, and an ordinarily good townie has rolled scum on a smurf you have no way of knowing.


Yeah I understand this but that doesn't make not revealing who you are to be alignment indicative. If someone has chosen to smurf they have chosen pre game that they probably don't want to reveal who they are. I feel like saying, reveal yourself or get lynched, is a waste because it depends on the player on how they will act so you can't really get much from that.

Also to talk about this now instead of when mafia will be trying to hunt roles. I think it is best in at least the first phase that a lot of the chosen powers are information type roles specifically scrying

I kinda dislike his pressure on FreezingFoot since FreezingFoot could be a smurf and him calling him out so early just seems like it's a preplanned motion from him regardless of his alignment so null.


When you say you dislike the pressure what do you mean? Do you think it is scummy? Not furthering the game? Could you expand on this?

I seems preplanned so it's null on that part but it did generate discussion although it's early in the game and not much going on outside the FreezingFoot stuff. I mean sure I would like to know his aka to do a meta read later on but the reason for people to smurf is they want to hide their identity so we can't use meta on them.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 00:02 GMT
#153
Well guys I going to get some dinner and when I come back I will check everything that goes on after this post!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 00:10 GMT
#161
Okay I still here for a bit I thought we were leaving right away and and will answer Breshke's quote to me.
On June 08 2015 09:04 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:56 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:51 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:44 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
So Breshke any thoughts on Wherebugsgo right now?


not really. Do you?

On June 08 2015 08:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
Hi

On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.


So do you think someone that has chosen to smurf is more likely to reveal who they are as town or mafia then?


I think they would be more likely to reveal themselves as town.

Granted, a smurf does not have to reveal themselves to be useful to town. I have smurfed myself, and the reason I do it is often quite simple-most people don't ask, and those who do can be placated by providing opinions and good reads. I have never had the luxury of rolling scum while smurfing, but if I ever did I do not doubt it would be one of the easiest ways to achieve victory.

It is plainly obvious why smurfing is far more advantageous to the individual player than the team as a whole. The town only benefits if the player who is smurfing is a high caliber town player, rolls town, and escapes getting shot night 1 due to being a smurf. Otherwise, town stands to gain nothing from a mediocre townie or a bad townie smurfing other than a lack of insight into the player's behaviour.

You should always hold smurfs to a higher standard because if they refuse to reveal their identity then you have no background to be working with. You have no expectation of their play, and an ordinarily good townie has rolled scum on a smurf you have no way of knowing.


Yeah I understand this but that doesn't make not revealing who you are to be alignment indicative. If someone has chosen to smurf they have chosen pre game that they probably don't want to reveal who they are. I feel like saying, reveal yourself or get lynched, is a waste because it depends on the player on how they will act so you can't really get much from that.

Also to talk about this now instead of when mafia will be trying to hunt roles. I think it is best in at least the first phase that a lot of the chosen powers are information type roles specifically scrying

I kinda dislike his pressure on FreezingFoot since FreezingFoot could be a smurf and him calling him out so early just seems like it's a preplanned motion from him regardless of his alignment so null.


When you say you dislike the pressure what do you mean? Do you think it is scummy? Not furthering the game? Could you expand on this?

I seems preplanned so it's null on that part but it did generate discussion although it's early in the game and not much going on outside the FreezingFoot stuff. I mean sure I would like to know his aka to do a meta read later on but the reason for people to smurf is they want to hide their identity so we can't use meta on them.


I don't get why this makes you dislike the pressure though. This makes me like the pressure

It just seems preplanned so he could do that regardless of alignment I feel. What you get out of the pressure yourself?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 00:14 GMT
#165
On June 08 2015 09:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
the pressure is not preplanned, btw.

I did not read the playerlist before signing up

Just seemed like it but I guess from the fact I had seen preplanned like that in games I had played so :o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 00:24 GMT
#172
On June 08 2015 09:20 batsnacks wrote:
If I were smurfing I probably wouldn't reveal my identity... unless I forgot I was logged into my main account and accidentally posted. /my2cents

Ya that was funny in Ippo.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 01:25 GMT
#196
On June 08 2015 10:19 Stutters695 wrote:
Oh shit, we live.

Anyway, everyone should vote me for the night blue thingy since I shot Palmar in Assassination.

Anyway, is Bugs always this aggressive? I think I played with him once like two years ago but I can't remember any details.

That's a real aggressive start.

Any more thoughts than Bugs aggressive opening to FreezingFoot?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 12:58 GMT
#269
Just woke up[ and had company over last night hence why my activity was kinda iffy(I thought they would be done earlier but they stayed till 11:15 -_-) and Bugs got a question:
On June 08 2015 16:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
LightningStrike, do you have any games of yours that you would suggest I read if I wanted to know more about how you play? Gonna dig around myself but just curious if you can help me along in identifying which games you would consider representative of your town and mafia play.

For town here a mix of my good games and bad games:
Student V: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?user=LightningStrike
Games of Throne: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Titanic VII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=LightningStrike&page=2
Carol of the Bells(Post limit game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=LightningStrike
Assassination(Another post limit game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=LightningStrike
XXX A Night of Debauchery (18+): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=LightningStrike
I only got 3 scum games and here their filters:
Student IV(First scum game ever and 2nd game on TL): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
Jack of All Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Guardians of the Galaxy(Latest scum game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
You can check the database if you need more town games
Also you still think FreezingFoot is scum?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 12:59 GMT
#270
On June 08 2015 21:27 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 18:59 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 18:49 Onegu wrote:
On June 08 2015 18:32 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 16:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
I have like 5 people right now on my list I would consider nearly 100% town

anyone else agree with me?


Who?

I have like 1 maybe 2. I really like kickstart, don't know if that needs explaining and also think i like tube his read on me seems really genuine and is just looking at my early play in a really good light which makes me think he is town.

Onegu leaving after smurf speculation is kind of underwhelming and I want to hear more opinions from LS.

WBG, I understand there is benifits of the "im going to treat you like a dick" play style but foot actually started providing stuff so I don't really get the "you're bad" post but they always feel awkward to me because if you are calling him bad does that mean you think he is town? IDK



Im here and I am always underwhelming.


no you ain't I remember that one game you scumread koshi which was the main reason i scumread koshi and then shot him, i think it was horn of africa or something.

got anything ya wanna talk about?


I was lynched day one that game though...

Give me a sec I need to read a few filters.

Also lol nobody called me out yet for not claiming VT. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA

That because you cashed it in at XXX when you were scum what you expect -_-
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 14:27 GMT
#273
On June 08 2015 22:30 batsnacks wrote:
Good morning LS. Do you feel like giving a meta read on me?

More likely town but you always are kinda weird though :o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 14:40 GMT
#275
On June 08 2015 23:29 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 23:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2015 22:30 batsnacks wrote:
Good morning LS. Do you feel like giving a meta read on me?

More likely town but you always are kinda weird though :o


I thought I was being kind of normal for once.

Just don't lynch yourself and don't have me call you animal names :o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2015 16:22 GMT
#280
On June 09 2015 00:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##vote wherebugsgo

Bugs posts in the beginning are trollish, but who knows just following the hype train from reading the thread atm.

Anymore thoughts outside of Bugs opening?
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