Assassination Mafia!

On May 10 2015 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
So with a 10 post limit I might resort to like a Geript Student V style for this phase.

On May 11 2015 02:17 LightningStrike wrote:

Wait I retracting I had misread it she done this type of entrance as town just been a while since she did (Titanic) sorry about that HTS just bleed town for me please? <3

On May 11 2015 03:15 justanothertownie wrote:

badass

On May 11 2015 02:00 Half the Sky wrote:
3/10

Kelsier -

Through the course of the game yes - particularly when I was pushing him D2 and after I died, he was calling me scum hardcore (the only one to do so) in that game. You'd have to read either in the obs qt or the post-game but he was particularly noted for being the only one to scumread me all game, that's how he stuck out that game.

Also Kels, I find it interesting you pulled that up because in this game he's saying



He's saying that because I was scum in Newbie LX, that my opening this game could be alignment indicative.

Though that still raises an interesting point.

Why does he say "alignment indicative" instead of straight up calling me scummy or leaning scum on me?

On May 11 2015 03:25 LightningStrike wrote:

Town she had some good large posts on analyzing stuff about GlowingBear and is thinking critically.

On May 11 2015 04:03 TalkingDead wrote:
yamato77
Yamato like many veterans generally gives very few fucks when he can't lynch people. Between tone (slight hopeful, slight asshole) and his color coding, these are far more likely to come from town!yamato. The interesting thing to note is that he doesn't seem to care whatsoever what he says; instead, he pops in, makes a comment and leaves. I for one expect more from him, but there doesn't look like he has any ulterior motive in posting. Rather he just says what he wants to say. That's why I have him as so strongly town.

KelsierSC
I think he's town mostly based on how obviously hypocritical he is. He spends the first half of his posts talking about how awful other people's post are and how they're wasting posts while he doesn't really bother adding anything himself. That's behavior that I tend to associate with town more than mafia. There's also the aspect that there's no real directional push; rather, it's pecking at a variety of other players. The only reason why I would put him on the town side of null instead of fully town is because his reads are pretty terrible. I find how he backs off of GB rather odd; I can't really understand:

Because when you look at GB's filter, I'm not seeing any alterations in his reads. First post is essentially a joke; GB has 1 moderate length reads post and a post expanding upon his MIA Damdred read. Rather the GB read feels very much like a preemptive defense while trying to push elsewhere. So if either GB or Kelsier flips mafia, then I'd take a heavy look at the other.

VisceraEyes
I find it rather out of place that VE is somewhat bothering to play if VE is town. I agree with Kelsier that on tone, VE looks a bit towny, but quite often VE has complained about not being able to lynch people. By this I mean that in games like PYP or here, where there's a 'pre-game' phase where you have alignment and can talk but are unable to lynch people quite often he as complained about not bothering to play because there's very little point in playing due to the lack of a perceived threat. He can't realistically threaten to lynch or shoot or nuke or whatever anyone and therefore feels less capable of applying pressure. I do find it odd that he didn't harp on BillMurray's last post at all because usually town!VE hates and tends to scumread the "leading on" type of post. His Batsnacks read and his GB/Batsnacks/Onegu observation are things that I'd normally expect from town!VE though. Since in at least a few of those games VE was mafia and because town!VE reads, I'm going to leave him at null to town.

marvellosity
I have him as town for tone alone. It's really not worth considering him until day 2 at the very earliest and if he's alive on day 3 then just lynch him. But I will be sheeping him on day 1.

HalftheSky
HTS is town. Period. She's made an exceptional number of interesting points (GB reaction to yamato, Damdred's word choice, initial poke at LightningStrike).

BillMurray

This post strikes me as particularly odd. Not only had he donated posts to Damdred, something which historically has happened more from mafia than town, he doesn't use any of his posts productively. He promises more useful things in the bland future. Yet, the most interesting thing to me is his caring about going over the limit. That's a behavior that I expect far more to come from mafia as they know they're part of a team which they would hurt by getting modkilled due to rules. Town tends to just damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead. This is on top of BillMurray not being an awful player as town. By far the best lynch on day 1.

Onegu
There's a variety of odd things with him. I think he's the third best lynch on day 1. He's drinking but doesn't post. There's this post:

Which is a really odd thought process to me. How could town possibly get the traitor role? Usually town that can become mafia has a different role name. This is also a normal game and therefore no alignment changes should ever happen.

Trfel
Trfel's posts aren't quite in-depth enough for me to really think he's town, but I like the points he's making. Null-town for now and flesh it out more on day 1.

LightningStike
Others have covered this for the most part. LS is the second best lynch for D1.

Damdred

GlowingBear
In looking through things there are a few things I find interesting.

I found this post quite odd. Initially so because he reaffirms his Damdred scumread but then bothers to comment on something that's supposed to be viewed as scummy but is just null. The townread on KelsierSC I find interesting because Kelsier also ended up with an odd townread on GlowingBear. But also because GlowingBear doesn't mention Trfel at all while Trfel had an interesting point on how LightningStrike was posting. But in looking further at it, he doesn't seem to place heavy weight on LS being mafia based on talking about how he's going to make consolidated posts. He gives Kelsier a townread for mostly calling out LS for "legit reasons" which GlowingBear doesn't want to follow up on. It's just exceptionally odd. GlowingBear's reads in general are just exceptionally odd on top of that. Initially, I felt like GlowingBear was trying to bus Damdred and Damdred was (at least initially) trying to back him out of that read in a semi-natural way and get GlowingBear to chill out. But in looking more specifically at the connections, the KelsierSC-GlowingBear connection is a bit more odd. I think there are better lynches on day 1 because often enough the person with really weird fucked up reads is just a bad towny which wouldn't be out of place for GlowingBear. But I also wouldn't balk at his lynch since something's definitely wrong here.

5)Damdred
This post is too long already and I need to get some food. I'll comment on him later. tl;dr I think GlowingBear vs Damdred is more likely to be town-town right now.

Nothing of note to say about
Xatalos
batsnacks
ObiWanShinobi
Oatsmaster
justanothertownie

MIAs
Palmer
Stutters
Vivax
Blazinghand
sandroba
RebirthOfLeGend

On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote:
GlowingBear's reads are definitely odd. For example, how he says the read is magic then tries to give a short crappy explanation for why he's scum. I get the sense that Damdred-GlowingBear is either town-town or mafia-mafia. It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia. Damdred despite apparently being a strong player uses pretty weak arguments against him. It just feels like both want to throw shit at each other and neither are interested in actually starting a train on them.

Onegu looks quite odd. Yamato looks really towny though; he can do this as mafia but I'd peg him as town. So far, I'd lynch BillMurray. I've seen him as town and as town he rarely does absolutely nothing and be useless. I would prefer him as a lynch. BlazingHand should be policy lynches/shot ASAP. Rsoultin is being townread for very bad reasons; she's might be town, but nothing he's posted is something she couldn't have or wouldn't have posted as mafia. Otherwise, meh.

On May 11 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Yo what gives?

@BH: Why am I town?

On May 11 2015 09:37 LightningStrike wrote:

Why you think Marv is scum?

On May 11 2015 09:47 LightningStrike wrote:

He only have 3 posts since the game started and Palmar had only 1 post saying Hi but it's the weekend I think it's easier to figure out Palmar's alignment and Marv once they start posting because they can read each other pretty damn well.

On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys just woke up to see the nuke and anti nuke and Tfrel looking good though afte the nuke stuff Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around I also don't like BM's early nuke he shoulda saved it for later when we starting seeing scum clearer.
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread?