[M][N] Medic Mafia

On March 01 2018 04:03 n00bKing wrote:
okay, I'll /in just cuz Moosy is in

On March 02 2018 00:03 Conversion wrote:
what's the player count at right now? I can help fill if it's close

On March 02 2018 22:30 Conversion wrote:
/in !

On March 06 2018 08:11 Damdred wrote:
I am me, and I will lynch anyone who claims vigilante, but cop is prety safe.

On March 06 2018 08:10 n00bKing wrote:

"Lynch all liars" applies here, right?

On March 06 2018 08:38 Damdred wrote:


I suppose but what happens if we don't control them d1 and two overlap on a super towny person?

On March 06 2018 09:56 Damdred wrote:
Do you have any opinions on anyone yet Tubesock?

On March 06 2018 11:17 darthfoley wrote:
hello

On March 06 2018 15:55 n00bKing wrote:

That's the point! They're two separate statements! So when he says what he said, and you quote it and say "agreed," followed by what you said, that's like someone saying "Tuesday is the best day of the week" and a 2nd person quoting it and responding with "Agreed, today is Tuesday." Those aren't the same thing.

Are they agreeing with the 1st statement and also adding a 2nd statement? Did they misunderstand the 1st statement? Are they misrepresenting the 1st statement to mean something it didn't? (this one is what it looks like to me at first glance). So I made you take a stance on whether you agreed with his original statement. That removes the option for you to later say you "just misunderstood." That would be HUGELY important if HF were to later flip Red, because it would offer tons of context on whether you were trying to protect him.

You've clarified that you agree with the original statement, were also adding a 2nd statement, so I have my answer, and we can move on. Make sense?

On March 06 2018 15:57 rsoultin wrote:

Hi moosy!

Kinda bored with the setup talk.

Ian (Damdred) is giving me scum vibes. Anyone you want to talk about?

On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:

My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences:

Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours!

Hey guys do you have any thoughts?

The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving.

On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:


Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was)

On March 06 2018 16:39 rsoultin wrote:


I just feel it's less valuable to have claims out with a mafia medic and rb in the game.

Rb one medic. Double up on the one with the bad scum read. Kill the third.

Medics neutralized. Once one is dead no more town but shots. Once two no more town saves.

And if we have town fake-claiming that also defeats the purpose of a mass claim day 1.

I see the counter-argument okay but really I think it makes more sense to delay the discussion at least a day phase.

On March 06 2018 16:34 Tubesock wrote:


lol ok. In this instance I think you are capable of making a medic claim in any situation. Fake, real, mafia, or town and any combination. I also think that it's probably true but I don't have any idea if it's town medic or mafia medic. You can certainly lynch me for that if you want to, but seems silly to me.

On March 06 2018 18:14 rsoultin wrote:
I think I'm liking a moosy this game, too \o/ Nothing strong, though. Bastard has to live in the wrong timezone.

On March 06 2018 18:37 rsoultin wrote:


o.0 Aw now not as much cause you're not asleep lol ><

On March 06 2018 18:55 rsoultin wrote:


You're not fulfilling your part of the conversational contract -flicks-

On March 07 2018 05:29 rsoultin wrote:


You're not anything to me That's where this game is at right now.

@Moosy

Where do my reads not line up with yours, out of curiosity? Other than on myself, lol ><

On March 07 2018 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
There's just something really off about DF's entry. He's in the thread while people are talking about things, and tubesock had already made his (bad?) post (though no one had called him out for it yet), and he just...isn't in the mood?

It makes me think he didn't like his role pm. Especially since he seemed to feel the need to respond to moosey and to make his excuses. Idk.

It's a pretty weak read, though. I mean there's always the possibility he has something to be down about irl...just find it odd when it's coupled with a need to post in thread. In his place, if I wasn't in the mood to play the game due to external factors, I probably just wouldn't bother until later. It's not like he was being pressured or anything to significantly change his willingness to play between his entry and that post.

On March 07 2018 05:19 rsoultin wrote:


We did ask him, though?

On March 07 2018 05:25 rsoultin wrote:
DF has also almost earned a cookie!

I like where you prodded on me, and our reads are lining up, too.

So either this game will be fairly easy or I'm townreading someone too easily. Which is always possible.

lynchpool: tube, ff, afkers ftw

Still not feeling a prp lynch though he'd prob be next in line afterwards. Followed by hf. Or maybe hf first. Either way I don't really have a problem with either and see reasons to think they could be town.

On March 07 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:

If rsoul were scum and "knows damdred can read her" then why would she draw his eyes to her by making him her early scumread and pushing for his lynch?

On March 07 2018 06:04 n00bKing wrote:

*shrug* You can ask Damdred whether he thinks that's something she's likely to try. Anyway, she seems willing to engage with you (even while simultaneously saying there's no way you could get her lynched) so feel free to keep needling her (she's at least giving us plenty of content to try and nail her with later, if she IS scum) but don't let yourself fall into the "tunnel" she talked about. You haven't placed a vote, right? If the day ended in 2 hours instead of 26 hours, who do you think should get the noose?

On March 07 2018 06:25 rsoultin wrote:
If you have any legitimate gripes that you'd like to discuss, let me know.

There's very little that I can say other than I changed my reads. If you think those changes were unnatural, I can explain the reasons. If you think that changing reads in generaly is scummy:

1) That's simply wrong, and not just because you have my alignment wrong, and
2) Have fun?

Cause yeah, my reads did change.

Who are the other scum with me, then?

On March 07 2018 06:34 rsoultin wrote:

-pokes-

Are you deadset on ignoring me?

Cause it feels to me like you've decided I'm scum for WIFOM and having a read you didn't agree with early on and now you're just tuning me out.

If that's how you plan to proceed, please let me know so that I can stop wasting posts attempting to clarify things for you.

On March 07 2018 07:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Nope. I would vote an afk vivax

On March 07 2018 08:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is the king of wagons

On March 07 2018 10:18 Tubesock wrote:


This is what I said:


It was more a response to Fecalfeast's idea of mass claiming D2, but it also advises town what I think town should do concerning mass claiming. In fact I wasn't specific because I understand the reality that when things change town players will start thinking it's a good idea/time and then it will present itself. The sentence prior even shows uncertainty about D2 claiming which would indicate I'm open to it if the conditions are right.

So, he then zeros in on my D2 comment and is just "No discussion of D2" and then goes on about the setup and pregame conversation. Like he nitpicked 1 thing, and ignored the rest. I don't think he thought about my post. I thought that was scummy. Like I don't think wanting to just talk about D1 mass claiming is inconsistent. But my post answers that question also, so he wasn't really looking to talk about it. Like he wanted to PUSH the mass claim D1. He even later tries to throw shade on Holyflare for shutting down claim talk. Clearly people are not into claiming D1.

As far as the nitpicky bit goes. In my experience, I'll say something weird and then people jump on my ass for it. Then a mafia sees thread sentiment and nitpicks to "lead" the charge. In this case I think n00b did that first so wasn't following thread sentiment. So, he's acting more like a Rels used to, rather than an opportunistic mafiosa.

On March 07 2018 10:53 AMG wrote:
You don't feel like mafia.

My vote is in the wrong place.

##Unvote

On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote:


Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.

I find his thought process on n00bking strange, but it feels town strange. I feel like hes getting hung up on something irrelevant, and that's something I associate with townies. Scum, on average, on the other hand get hung up on something relevant, but tiny, and then blow it out of proportion.

On March 07 2018 11:19 AMG wrote:
His grand return to the thread after copping heat is to return, declare hes got no scum reads, and hes aware that'll probably kill him. And stick to his guns that n00bking is doing scummy things, but isn't scum.

None of this seems calculated like mafia play at all.

On March 07 2018 11:35 Tubesock wrote:


Does this mean you think Fecalfeast is mafia? (I'm assuming not Rsoultin since you already towned her?) Or are you speaking generally?

On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote:
I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.

Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me....

On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote:
I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.

Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me....

On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback.

On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.

Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on.

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback.

On March 07 2018 12:27 Tubesock wrote:


The issue I have with the metagame thing is it's so coinflippy. TownRsou would do that, and I'd accept mafiaRsou would do that. Why isn't it NAI? I think she's town because she's broadening discussion without stifling it. I don't see any motivation for mafia to do that.

On March 07 2018 12:23 Tubesock wrote:


To some extent, shouldn't I be doing whatever I can to find an alternative wagon? you even say "Tubesock do something productive" so isn't looking for another wagon outside of me "productive"?

On March 07 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also do you have anything at all Tube? Arguments, defense, possible list of scum...?

On March 07 2018 12:34 Tubesock wrote:
I don't understand why you towned Damdred for that "Good man, it won't be me (but it was)" comment. Can you expand that please?

On March 07 2018 13:04 Tubesock wrote:


maybe I'll try to be more clear.

1. You scumread Rsoultin due to tinfoil that scumRsoultin would know that she should scum Damdred a little bit so he will townread her. Also asking for feedback. Is that correct so far?

2. I respond with "The issue I have with the metagame thing is it's so coinflippy. TownRsou would do that, and I'd accept mafiaRsou would do that. Why isn't it NAI?" Giving you feedback that I think it could be town rsoultin or mafia rsoultin. Then ask you why do you think it's not NAI since you obviously don't, I'm requesting more detail because what you posted so far wasn't enough.

3. I also say I townread Rsoultin for broadening discussion (moving it from me) without stifling it (not preventing anyone from saying their piece concerning me)". Do you have a response why mafia Rsoultin would do that? Like, she COULD but I don't think she would try enough to be effective at it. But she succeeded in getting another wagon started and moved the discussion from strategy/setup and me, to other reads on other people. Mafia Rsoultin could have made the token attempt and fizzled out easier without succeeding.

4. I don't even know how to respond to the aligning with AMG accusation.

5. You asked if I had arguments, points, or scumreads, but in the two of my posts before that I answered what I could already. I feel like I've only been defending, and I've already stated I don't have any scumreads.

On March 07 2018 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think tubesock is town

On March 07 2018 14:42 n00bKing wrote:

For anyone to purposely be "holding their vote" at this stage just seems dumb to me. If Tubesock would be your lynch, put your vote on him. If it would be someone else, put your vote on them instead. If you're Town, you should want the voting record to be reflective of people's intentions. I'm tired of reading about what you kinda/sorta/maybe want to do, except that you have to talk to daddy damdred first.

On March 07 2018 15:42 n00bKing wrote:

Sure, I'll raise my hand for this one. If you think explaining it will be counter-productive for the Town, say that. Otherwise...stop avoiding Tubesock's question?

On March 07 2018 16:45 AMG wrote:


Chaoser has been on this forum even longer than I have. Back when PM games used to be the norm and you used to get clues from the host every cycle.

Hes pretty good/reasonable when he can resist the urge to troll, but that urge strikes him pretty often.

On March 07 2018 18:02 rsoultin wrote:

Hi Moosy.

I do have a question for you actually.

Why are you waiting on Damdred? Cause obv your one vote won't kill me and can be changed.

And I also don't see how his opinion fits into your world view? You seem by your narrative (sorry, but that's what it is) to believe that Damdred is both good at reading me but also that I'm playing to my town meta as scum specifically to fool him.

So what information do you actually get out of his opinion?

On March 07 2018 20:24 rsoultin wrote:
Meh fuck it.

I have a bad townread on you that's wifomy and it rather not share, and you refuse to help me work through my reads where we disagree.

But that doesn't even make you scum because you just do this shit and for the life of me I don't understand why I have to ask the question ten times when as dar as I can tell you think I'm town.

And before I start whining in a passive aggressively hurtful way (yes I'm deleting what I just wrote) I'm going to leave. Just...Whatever.

##unvote

First impression amg odd entry target for scum.

I'll bother figuring out which of my nullish reads I actually want to vote later.

On March 08 2018 00:13 Vivax wrote:
Moosy can you explain to me why you thought Damdred was town at that point?

On March 08 2018 00:32 Vivax wrote:


Thanks. And you would stick to that read at this point? Cause besides you playing a fair amount of games with him and him seeming town to you, there really is no argument in the room for Damdred being town that anyone else could see except from your experienced point of view?

For all I know, Damdred can still be mafia and what he's posted so far doesn't particularly sway me either way.



This post could come from mafia. 7 lines explaining his town reads, 3 explaining his scum reads. Easy to just get cred points by townreading people and spending as little as possible on his scumreads.

On March 08 2018 07:10 n00bKing wrote:
Ok, I'm off.


Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC

On March 08 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:


Why him over prpl?

On March 08 2018 07:17 darthfoley wrote:
##unvote

##Vote: prplhz

On March 08 2018 07:28 Holyflare wrote:


I have no idea but I feel quite strongly about df. He hasn't pushed a single god damn thing and hasn't even been the centre of attention like tube to detract from it.

On March 08 2018 00:56 Tubesock wrote:
I'm never voting Vivax.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

I didn't like our interaction, I felt like he was trying to keep me tilted and on the defensive. I completely disagree that I was reaching for straws and seeing what could stick and also disagree that that would even make someone mafia. Generally, it's someone who's on the chopping block.

There's around a 50% chance I won't be back before deadline, but if I am I will be "gone" till two hours prior. I'll be around for 30 more minutes or so then I will "leave".

On March 07 2018 14:12 Tubesock wrote:




I didn't see the FecalFeast response. But are these the quotes?

I don't see how the hardness of Damdred's read is relevant to Rsoultins alignment. Sure, it speaks to the success of the metagame sure but you are not answering why town Rsoultin wouldn't do the same thing? If Rsoultin as town acts X way, wouldn't it stand to reason she would do X regardless of Damdred's expectation?

I didn't have any problems with her changing of reads. I don't think it aligned with Damdred since he didn't exactly leave a bunch. Why wouldn't she try to align with you since you are making a big deal about soulreading? You also remarked how you thought exactly the same as her concerning me. So, doesn't seem you're entirely on different planets. Like you and I are on different planets for sure. AMG also. Doesn't really make for mafia though.

Which led me to asking you why you townread Damdred. The only thing I saw was the post I already pointed out and asked about. Cause it's a little weird that you are hard towning Damdred for very little. For your tinfoil to work, Damdred must be town...so you obviously are hard towning him. So, what did I miss about that "Good man, it won't be me (it was)" speak to you so deeply?

On March 08 2018 07:37 rsoultin wrote:


Yeah, no. Not voting for him.

Saying you have 'no reason' to townread someone does not read to me as more scummy than outright saying you think afkers this game are more likely to be scum because of the balance. I don't necessarily agree with his thoughts, but the vote makes sense in context to me.

On March 08 2018 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Grats on guardian moose

On March 08 2018 07:55 rsoultin wrote:


Lol nah, if Viva's town it's good for him not to give me more reasons to doubt him. There's enough of that happening with players in this game anyway.

On March 08 2018 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
It is easy and you plebs switched off df.

On March 08 2018 07:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Has Tube done anything townie for you to vote darth over him or are both tube and darth scummy for you atm with darth just being more scummy

On March 08 2018 14:18 n00bKing wrote:

...huh?

Because Kelsier was a no-show (in the game thread at least) and prpl wasn't. You act like one vs. the other is an equivalent choice. It's not.

If people want to make a big deal over this, I can explain further. But I would have thought that the reasons why you lynch a literal no-show (like Kelsier or chaoser) over someone who makes a few posts and then bails for the rest of the Phase (like prpl or damdred) were fairly obvious.

On March 08 2018 15:42 rsoultin wrote:
@Moosy, I'm not sure why I'm suddenly top town to you? I effectively forced a tube lynch with my vote, and I'm really not at all sure that prp is town. Nor do i recall you townreading him?

On March 08 2018 17:13 rsoultin wrote:


What I'm saying is I forced a town lynch with my vote, and unless you thought the counterwagons are town as well I don't understand why I'm now town to you?

On March 08 2018 18:11 rsoultin wrote:
TLDR on AMG

Not as sure he's scum anymore but I really do hate his prp scumread.

It also appears that my memory of his 'strong' early play was wrong, just as my impression of his townreads was incorrect. Not sure why I was towning him so hard in the first place @.@

The irony is I'm really not sure prp isn't scum so meh.

On March 08 2018 18:15 KelsierSC wrote:
hi guys, looking forward to playing this one. when do we start?

On March 09 2018 05:47 n00bKing wrote:

Like who?

On March 09 2018 05:55 darthfoley wrote:
Fact that no one is even trying to divert medicvig off of prplhz implies he's town. Meh

On March 09 2018 07:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Are you happy with prpl as the target moose?

On March 09 2018 07:59 n00bKing wrote:
His threats to start a barrage of shitposts during N1 dried up as soon as Alakaslam began posting, so those threats may have involved a plan of action reliant upon Alakaslam's absence. I asked him what happened...no answer. If a townie had plans that got blown up, they can explain it. If a scum player has plans that got blown up...not so simple.

On March 08 2018 18:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
HOLY SHIT ITS MY BOI ALAKASLAM

On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.

On March 10 2018 04:03 darthfoley wrote:


I think I really hate this post for some reason

On March 10 2018 04:15 darthfoley wrote:


Idk, it's just super self aware meta that no one asked for or was that interested in iirc early on. You call it filler in your next post, but that also seemed pretty self aware.

On March 09 2018 17:30 Alakaslam wrote:

Goddamn I can’t remember why but this post

This had me certain he was scum before I replaced in and now for the life of me I can’t do it.

Melatonin should kick in soon.

On March 06 2018 08:51 n00bKing wrote:

Yeah, if you're coordinating a medic kill on any given night, I think all the medics have to use the same target. This not only renders the Mafia medic useless, but it also renders the Mafia roleblocker useless. They basically just have 3 vanilla bad guys.

Coordinating things so that 2 medics kill a guy and one tries to prevent the mafia kill not only opens you up to disruption by the roleblocker, but I also don't see a way to get the medics on the same page (about which 2 are killing a guy and which 1 is trying to make a save) without telling the Mafia who they are. So you can't do anything but "all 3 on the same target" unless you execute a mass claim. Having never played under this set of rules (or one like it) I don't know if the mass claim is good or bad. I'll have to read the pre-game discussion again.

One thing I DO remember from pre-game discussion is the idea that this ruleset favors us pretty heavily, and that the Mafia will have to play extremely well to win. Is there a "far and away" best Scum player that we can lynch, to make sure that won't happen? :D

On March 06 2018 08:59 n00bKing wrote:

Hmm, okay. If he were Scum and decided that the mass claim favors the Mafia, would he be bold enough to immediately fake-claim Medic, and try to force the Town into a disadvantageous mass claim? Or would that be "too obvious" of a scum play?

On March 09 2018 18:10 rsoultin wrote:
Apparently pre-game the mass claim idea was one you favored. Now you don't. I have one good explanation for that and it fits with an AMG night kill over one of you, me, and viva.

On March 10 2018 20:47 n00bKing wrote:

Oh, you don't understand what my goal is? I'm super-shocked! Your filter is 8 pages of you not understanding things. My post said I needed to re-read. I don't expect you to feel a bunch of pressure from me saying I need to re-read, while my vote is on someone else. But yeah, I'm "trying to scumread you." prpl flipping red makes you a high candidate to be on that team. Are you anxious to feel more pressure from my posts? What's the matter, don't especially feel like playing anymore after prpl crashed and burned, but your pride won't let you just scoop, either? Here's an idea....how about you put your vote on Kelsier too, and help me try to spur him into action. Then if he makes a few good posts, maybe the Noose ends up on you today instead, and you get put out of your misery a littler sooner. How's that sound?

On March 11 2018 07:43 n00bKing wrote:
It is what mafia surely do. And you can surely be mafia. But there were 2 other good lynch targets today, and your posting didn't become increasingly scummy until late enough in the day that I don't believe it would still be possible to get you in the noose at this point.

If Kelsier flips town, I will be explaining to everyone what makes your Day 2 posting so scummy. But I'm not going to bother with it for now, because if Kelsier flips Red, it doesn't matter what all of the Mafia motivations behind your posts can be, because you'll be town even DESPITE the way you've behaved. So I'm really hoping Kelsier flips red, because it'll save me a lot of work, and I can wait until post-game to tell you why your reasoning is so awful.

On March 11 2018 07:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
what's going on

On March 11 2018 08:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
who should i heal

On March 11 2018 08:11 n00bKing wrote:
By the way, Moosy, I've seen you play both allegiances before, and this right here:

is NOT what I remember from Town Moosy. No one flings dirt and insults like Town Moosy. This "can't we all just get along?" stuff is NOT your Town meta. So I can add a meta read against you to the association case against you.

On March 11 2018 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
Now, when it came to the next day and people actually told noobking that my df meta was correct he turned to say "Oh, you should absolutely be the lynch" but now that the mass claim has happened he is absurdly quiet about lynching into any of the medics. To add to that now he's just asking meek questions about rsoultin's posts towards me that would have no follow up. He's angry that I am posting hyperbole and incorrect information while rsoul calls me mafia but doesn't equate that to me being mafia since that is what mafia surely do.

On March 11 2018 10:05 Alakaslam wrote:

DO U OWN SHIT

On March 11 2018 10:11 Alakaslam wrote:

TO MAN UP

On March 11 2018 10:09 darthfoley wrote:


We can vigi heal you if you prefer

On March 11 2018 08:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also rsoultin is right in that I haven't played in 2 years(?). I'm actually drawing inspiration from one game I played way back where I actually played decent as town and nailed a clutch cop check.

So yeah, I'm just genuinely trying to shake up my meta from the mess it was before. If you read me as scum that's fine, I just call bogus on reading me as red because of meta.

On March 11 2018 15:32 n00bKing wrote:

Yeah, I have a question about your reads. Who is the VT scum? The other vanilla claims are: Slam, HF, rsoul and Koshi. Who should get shot tonight? I don't feel like you're interacting with any of them like as if they are scumreads. Does your own PoE tell you that the VT scummer is you?

On March 11 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote:
This so isn't helping ><

I was thinking maybe not Moosy after all. The he ignores his teammates thing doesn't really hold water looking at past scum games. BTDT in Newbie Student Mafia XXII is an example. Also, even though he doesn't appear to talk much about other scummates, he does talk to them.

Also found him policing the thread a bit as town. And I noticed that he's more active in this game than his two most recent scum games.

However, that doesn't mean much as it turns out, because he's also more active than his town games and I didn't notice a huge activity difference in those four games. But then I started just getting this he's way more actively and aggressively pushing things in this town game I'm reading (Newbie XXI), and I found an explanation for his early trolling that makes me wonder why he bothers to change it up.

So now I'm thinking this was a waste of time and I should just throw the meta out the window lol >< These games were from years ago as it is.

Pffft.

On March 11 2018 19:39 rsoultin wrote:


What exactly were you expecting people to pressure you on prior to this post, Moosy?

On March 11 2018 19:51 Vivax wrote:


There's enough crap in the thread to solve the game probably, but creating more crap isn't the way to solve it.

I'm also hung over and dropped moist coffee powder all over my floor and I really cba to read much today. That gabalier dude played at my village yesterday. I even saw Brits run around.

When I can get killed thanks to the mass claim already I see little reason to put in more effort. Mafia kills medics, medics kill non medics. When we are done with that I can be convinced to play more. This is the way the others chose to play and now I'm not going to get shit on for it since I was against mass claiming in the first place.

On March 11 2018 20:05 rsoultin wrote:
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I'm sorry that I forced this on everyone. Apparently getting the claims out now means that scumhunting is impossible for people. My bad. I don't understand why I'm bothering if no one else can be bothered.

Maybe because noobking actually is playing, I don't know.

I have other things to do with my life than try to help figure this game out, too, you know. Like, how the hell does having mass claims mean there's no need to scum hunt? There's still two scum!

On March 11 2018 08:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:

That's because I'm r e f o r m e d dude. After thinking about all the times I got mad during this game I've decided it's not worth it. It's also why I'm trying to troll a little less because people got mad over it and I don't want to ruin people's days that way. It sucks to try and play the game and have to deal with someone's shit.

On March 11 2018 20:25 rsoultin wrote:


Nh. I don't know why I asked that question anyway @.@ I can't verify why you change something.

It's just that you said that you caught scum by people piling on you D1 for trolling. So I don't know why you'd change that. And if it's an active thing you were doing, which you're not doing now, why would you expect people scumreading you?

On March 11 2018 20:31 rsoultin wrote:


What?

I really do want an answer. If this method worked for you in the past, why change it? And why expect people to keep scumreading you if you weren't actively trolling to try to get scum to push you?

On March 11 2018 20:39 rsoultin wrote:


You can say that you changed because it made people angry, and that answers the first question (not entirely satisfactorily for me, but whatever, it certainly can still be true).

Stating that you're used to rayn people jumping up your ass though doesn't match up with why you said you trolled before...though tbf that was years ago. Before you said you were doing it to trap scum by luring them into pushing you. Like this was an active strategy of yours. Wasn't it? Were you lying in that town game?

On March 11 2018 20:56 Vivax wrote:


good read

On March 11 2018 20:59 rsoultin wrote:


Is there a specific reason this reminds you of that...i.e. a way in particular that he's playing...or is it just that you did it once and you were wrong?

On March 12 2018 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
Moosy what's this game noobking tricked you in?

On March 12 2018 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah koshi or slam

On March 12 2018 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
You guys should all heal a separate person in the non vt circle and that way a medic is confirmed each night possibly.

On March 12 2018 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
In the vt circle even

On March 12 2018 05:04 darthfoley wrote:


We're coordinating in the qt