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rsoultin
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 12 2018 19:56 rsoultin wrote: That's a long post to call me bad, noob, lol >< There's nothing about you in the TL;DR! heh. I understand you not wanting an "auto-lynch" day, and you've explained that you might not be here all that much for the rest of the phase, so maybe you wouldn't have been able to help prevent an auto-lynch day unless you did it now. I just think there was some value to be had in watching him squirm more, and seeing if he could mount a reasonable defense to keep himself out of the noose, or just dug himself a bigger hole. I would have prevented the "auto-lynch" day. I don't have time now to ponder what you are HF are parsing through, with regard to Night plans, but I'll comment on it later. (And before you even say it again, Holyflare, YEAH, I am gonna scumread you and yet ALSO analyze your suggestions, and consider whether they could help. Just because I think your posts late in the D2 phase hemorrhage scumminess doesn't mean I can't also look at scenarios where I could possibly be mistaken. Additionally, it's possible for scum players to make suggestions that actually DO favor the Town. It would be new for you to make a town-favored suggestion, but hey, first time for everything!) | ||
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
I also agree with n00bking that today wasn't gonna be an auto lynch. I mean yesterday wasn't an auto lynch but you still had people like Vivax and Moosy who kept talking about how they have no interest in the game considering it's a mechanics based solution. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:10 rsoultin wrote: There's just this constant 'I don't understand the setup' stuff coming from Moosy that I don't care for. I saw it in his scum games when I was going through them yesterday to check Noob's meta claims. Though tbf that's one of the things on my list to double-check with him tomorrow when I have more time, because I haven't confirmed that that's alignment indicative. Yea, his "is there any world in which Vivax/NK are scum together? I haven't bothered to read the OP!" was a terrible attempt at a dumb tell. like really bad | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote: to be clear, I think Vivax is scum not just because of last night. Rather, because his defense today has seemed all over the place trying to throw theories at the wall to see what sticks. Plus my case against him regarding his interactions/read progression on prplhz D1 that only Koshi seemed to read and Vivax never even tried to defend himself against. lol, I read it. I even just mentioned it! (free plug for you, I want a cut of your take!) On March 12 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote: I also agree with n00bking that today wasn't gonna be an auto lynch. I mean yesterday wasn't an auto lynch but you still had people like Vivax and Moosy who kept talking about how they have no interest in the game considering it's a mechanics based solution. And wouldn't you agree that HF was defending their perspective on that? | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:12 darthfoley wrote: Yea, his "is there any world in which Vivax/NK are scum together? I haven't bothered to read the OP!" was a terrible attempt at a dumb tell. like really bad He's gone to that well multiple times, because he also asked me if he and HF were my scum team. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
 I have no qualms whatsoever with people pushing Vivax as a legitimate scum target.Sorry about being too preemptive for those of you trying to get reads off Viva. It's just that my personal experience is that, scum or town, a lot of players roll over and die when it looks hopeless so I prefer to let people know that at least someone's willing to listen. I'm headed out for the day now. Let me just requote my question to Vivax, and someone press him for an answer to it, please? On March 12 2018 19:35 rsoultin wrote: This is technically correct if you ignore no one was claiming to heal him with you. But I don't think that I fully understand the point that you're trying to make. Are you questioning why I think you could be town? Because I don't think I'm biased in favor of you at all. I just don't like the idea of auto lynches on someone who isn't confirmed anything, where if you're town scum can just hide in the silence. So what did you mean with this post? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:14 n00bKing wrote: lol, I read it. I even just mentioned it! (free plug for you, I want a cut of your take!) And wouldn't you agree that HF was defending their perspective on that? I have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't even remember him writing that because if I did I would have told you to nk him. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:12 darthfoley wrote: Yea, his "is there any world in which Vivax/NK are scum together? I haven't bothered to read the OP!" was a terrible attempt at a dumb tell. like really bad Lynch moosy plz | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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##vote moosy | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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On March 12 2018 19:49 Holyflare wrote: Alternatively we do df/ff on a vt player like moosy, vivax on rsoul, nk on df. We narrow down the vt pool that way and if a medic wants to shenanigan they confirm themselves mafia. This enables us to narrow down vt pool and simultaneously control the mafia nk while trying to preserve our medics. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
This plan involves us lynching moosy today and him being town. I will flip vt if you sacrifice me so it's up to you whether you wanna get mafia slam early or "confirm" me mafia the next day. No difference other than you guys being shit. If any of the medics break rank then it is absolutely obvious which one did it since if ff is mafia I won't die. If vivax is mafia and he switches he's obvious. Same with NK. Thus we therefore control the mafia medic night kill in our favour. If they all choose to stick with their claims and follow this plan then the following day you have df/rsoul as basically town. 4 medic claims and a confirmed mafia. Do not lynch the confirmed mafia. This is when you lynch into medic claims. You lynch vivax for not making sense if he hasn't already conceded and if he's medic then you have two medics and two towns and a confirmed mafia and a mafia medic claim. The next night you put two of the medics on the confirmed mafia and one of the medics on df. This way you preserve df and the medic sanctity and mafia is forced to stack on the confirmed mafia. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Much rather make it impossible for mafia to win (I think it already is impossible for them). | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
If noobking just says that I'm pushing mafia agenda and that's why tell him that's my town meta. | ||
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Vivax
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If you want to be incredibly stupid and prefer to lose town power roles over vanillas, then go ahead. But then don't expect me to put in a shred of effort if I know you are ready to throw the game by voting for me. It's also fucking pointless to defend myself or go read your wrong shit about me cause of the above reason and if I know you are dumb enough to lynch a medic today then you are also dumb enough that my defense wouldn't change anything. Yes I'm triggered. Yetserday we were deciding between 5 VTs, today we got it down to the same amount as we have medics and hence there is only one correct play and everyone is still arguing about medic lynches. So all this day should be between HF, Moosy, Slam fighting it out and you know where I stand. And yes I would lynch HF last. ##Vote Moosy | ||
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