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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 02:06 GMT
#1801
Man I come back after moving back into uni dorm and I see we're not going to follow up on my read :/
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 02:06 GMT
#1802
I don't see how Vivax is not scum here still. Do we think he's scum and playing setup or otherwise?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:07 GMT
#1803
@noobking
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On March 12 2018 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also noobking, do you think vivax is scum or not.


@vivax
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On March 12 2018 06:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Vivax eli5 how asking medics for clarification is scummy considering darth was posting about you, noob was on holyflare, and fecal went from saying he'd sheep darth to saying he'd sheep you?


@darthfoley
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On March 11 2018 23:58 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 23:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
darthfoley does that mean you're townreading noobking? If your scum read is Vivax who do you think is the other scum


I'm not sure. I really think Damdred slot was townie. He just finished playing a scum game where scum was lynched D1/2/3 in order and one of his mates was low activity and got caught D1. He just seemed more energetic and interested than I would expect if scum!Damdred rolled scum with Prplhz. That's like a death sentence.

HF/Vivax is an interesting idea.

I think rsoultin is town regardless of her defending Prplhz day 1. I would be sad if I were wrong about her.

Which leaves me with you and Slam. I'm not sure how I feel about you, and Slam is slam.

I guess I would say the scum lies between HF/Slam/Moosy

darthfoley, explain to me how Damdred disappearing for most of D1 and prpl dying D1 makes sense with your explanation here. Is your other mafia Holyflare still?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:07 GMT
#1804
@holyflare, why the sudden interest in playing setup when you were so against it basically all game?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:09 GMT
#1805
On March 12 2018 22:36 Holyflare wrote:
I will fight forever to not get lynched then. It is my duty as VT. You can ignore it all you want but I'll be here.

On March 12 2018 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
Please let me know if you think I'm mafia and why so I can quash it.

If noobking just says that I'm pushing mafia agenda and that's why tell him that's my town meta.

posts like these do not sit well with me
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:12 GMT
#1806
On a side note, re-reading noobking's filter is like pulling my teeth out. I am making headway but there is a lot of words.

For the record I still townread slam. People who think Holyflare is mafia here can you please explain why to me. Off the top of my head that would be @rsoultin, @darthfoley, @noobking
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:13 GMT
#1807
:/ Man i townread both slam and holy I don't want to kill them here still
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:14 GMT
#1808
As a note I am back in school after spring vacation so I'm going to be a lot more busy doing homework and stuff so I might be checking back less often
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:40 GMT
#1809
On March 12 2018 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Alright I'm going to go get food and take a break. I want all of ya'll to know that it was me who sniffed out the bullshit in the fast one Vivax tried to pull though.


And it was me that called you town all this time. Never forget.

monkaS
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:53 GMT
#1810
On March 12 2018 20:10 rsoultin wrote:
There's just this constant 'I don't understand the setup' stuff coming from Moosy that I don't care for. I saw it in his scum games when I was going through them yesterday to check Noob's meta claims. Though tbf that's one of the things on my list to double-check with him tomorrow when I have more time, because I haven't confirmed that that's alignment indicative.

As with meta it's NAI. I'm actually notorious for not giving a shit about setup and being bad with it.

When I was town roleblocker once I actually unwittingly foiled Rels' plan to mislynch me one game when he was Mafia. I actually didn't know what a roleblocker was when the game started and during the game. iirc Rels claimed one-shot roleblocker and I actually believed him when it was impossible due to some setup rule stuff I still don't understand tbh.

When I was mafia with CopCake once I also bus'd her when she was Mafia roleblocker and she got pissed at me because she said it was an important role and it made no sense for me to bus her. This was actually before the town roleblocker shit which goes to show how much I understand setup.

I'm sure there are other small examples that show I don't understand setup but I generally don't care for it or understand it. I actually still don't understand what Holyflare was proposing we do with the medics last night. And tbh idrc. If something someone proposes is outlandish and doesn't make sense I'm sure other town will call him out like what happened with Rels.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 13 2018 03:53 GMT
#1811
Alright I'm done for the night. Spring break is over and I'm back at uni so I'll be busy and won't be able to check back as much.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 13 2018 03:57 GMT
#1812
On March 12 2018 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also noobking, do you think vivax is scum or not.

Yes. I think the most likely scenario is that Koshi was correct, and that Vivax is HF's partner.

On March 13 2018 12:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
:/ Man i townread both slam and holy I don't want to kill them here still

Do better. I forgot that I promised I would tell you that you suck, in rayn's stead. You suck, Moosy. Do better.
You may have townread them both before, but now you need to figure out which one of them is the VT scum. We can't perform the Vivax lynch you want unless we are way more sure he's the fake medic than we are about who is the VT scum. (And I mean WAY...MORE...SURE.)

Sadly, the ONLY really important post made by anyone in the entire time I was gone, was this one from Vivax himself (bolding/underlining added for emphasis):
On March 12 2018 23:23 Vivax wrote:
Why are you people still discussing lynching into the PRs before finding the scum in the VTs as was the plan all along?

If you want to be incredibly stupid and prefer to lose town power roles over vanillas, then go ahead. But then don't expect me to put in a shred of effort if I know you are ready to throw the game by voting for me. It's also fucking pointless to defend myself or go read your wrong shit about me cause of the above reason and if I know you are dumb enough to lynch a medic today then you are also dumb enough that my defense wouldn't change anything.

Yes I'm triggered.
Yetserday we were deciding between 5 VTs, today we got it down to the same amount as we have medics and hence there is only one correct play and everyone is still arguing about medic lynches.

So all this day should be between HF, Moosy, Slam fighting it out and you know where I stand. And yes I would lynch HF last.

He is exactly right. Day 3 should be all-out WAR between HF, Moosy and Slam to figure out which of them should be the lynch. And then the rest of us weigh the evidence and pick our sides. This is what matters. And if it's a HF/Vivax team, then the reason he's *willing* to remind us that we're supposed to lynch into the VTs is obvious: He thinks that if we lynched into the medics, we'd be more likely to lynch him than we are to lynch Holyflare if we picked a VT. HF, meanwhile, has been ALL about lynching into the medics...until today, when Vivax suddenly became the medic who is clearly the most scumread, and had an avalanche of votes fall onto him at the start of the Phase. Then he tells us there are possibilities where the Night results don't make Vivax scum, and now he magically is willing to get on-board with lynching into the VTs, even if it means killing Moosy, who had been a PERENNIAL townread for him, and whose odds of being Town shot UP dramatically with the new information that points to DF being Town. I said at the end of Night 2 that the scum team was probably either Moosy/DF or HF/Vivax. Koshi said the scum team is HF/Vivax. N2 results then showed us that DF is probably Town, which means the voting record tells us Moosy is probably Town. The N2 results ALSO gave us new reasons to scumread Vivax. Yet HF suddenly no longer wants to lynch into the medics, and is ready to lynch Moosy straight through his long-standing townread of him. And Vivax, though reminding us we should lynch a VT claim, doesn't want to lynch Holyflare, either. How is this difficult, people?
On March 13 2018 12:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
People who think Holyflare is mafia here can you please explain why to me.

Oh yes. That's comin.

n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 13 2018 04:21 GMT
#1813
On March 12 2018 20:10 rsoultin wrote:
There's just this constant 'I don't understand the setup' stuff coming from Moosy that I don't care for. I saw it in his scum games when I was going through them yesterday to check Noob's meta claims. Though tbf that's one of the things on my list to double-check with him tomorrow when I have more time, because I haven't confirmed that that's alignment indicative.

On March 13 2018 12:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
it's NAI. I'm actually notorious for not giving a shit about setup and being bad with it.

Can confirm. Played multiple games with (Town) Moosy, and he repeatedly failed to know/understand the rules & roles, even though they're sitting right there in the OP.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 13 2018 04:36 GMT
#1814
On March 13 2018 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2018 00:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 13 2018 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Slam why do you think Noob is mafia over FF? I'm not able to pick one at this point.

Because noob is textbook scum

I don’t know how anyone else is missing it.

I believe it. He isn't interested in doing plans until I say them and then he just argues about how it's not THE BEST plan but still a plan. Pointless arguments for the sake of it is definitely mafia.

Sure, sure, HF. Arguing is definitely mafia, but directly trying to improve the chances of mafia WINNING THE GAME is not, huh? You pushing a mafia agenda is just "you being you" but me arguing AGAINST someone pushing a mafia agenda, THAT'S scummy, huh? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

It's a lie to say that I'm not interested in doing any plans. I've consistently been very interested in doing a plan: THE plan that came from the mass claim! Do I then come up with additional plans? No! Because that plan is the BEST one.

You resisted the town-favored mass claim, and then once the mass claim gave us a clear path to winning the game, you kept trying to veer us off that path, and make things harder for ourselves. Were my arguments against your plans "pointless?" NO! The point of arguing against your scum-favored plans was to make sure they WEREN'T USED. And it WORKED! Your ridiculous "let's help the mafia" plans WEREN'T USED. You tried to lynch into the medic claims on Day 2, I was able to stop you. You then tried to say the medics should aim into each other during Night 2, and I was able to stop you again. You then tried to say the medics should all heal separate targets, so that our medics would be neutered and the only result from the Night Phase would be mafia killing a Town player while we all stood around and watched, and I was able to stop you a THIRD time.

The reason I'm not interesting in coming up with new plans until you bring them up is that we already had the RIGHT one all along. And the way I've managed to keep us on that proper path is by ARGUING with you about how your plans are WORSE than that one, and keeping people from falling for your scum-favored antics. I've had help from rsoul and Koshi in shooting down your terrible suggestions, but they *were* terrible and I *have* shot them down.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 13 2018 04:57 GMT
#1815
On March 13 2018 12:57 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also noobking, do you think vivax is scum or not.

Yes. I think the most likely scenario is that Koshi was correct, and that Vivax is HF's partner.

Show nested quote +
On March 13 2018 12:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
:/ Man i townread both slam and holy I don't want to kill them here still

Do better. I forgot that I promised I would tell you that you suck, in rayn's stead. You suck, Moosy. Do better.
You may have townread them both before, but now you need to figure out which one of them is the VT scum. We can't perform the Vivax lynch you want unless we are way more sure he's the fake medic than we are about who is the VT scum. (And I mean WAY...MORE...SURE.)

Sadly, the ONLY really important post made by anyone in the entire time I was gone, was this one from Vivax himself (bolding/underlining added for emphasis):
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 23:23 Vivax wrote:
Why are you people still discussing lynching into the PRs before finding the scum in the VTs as was the plan all along?

If you want to be incredibly stupid and prefer to lose town power roles over vanillas, then go ahead. But then don't expect me to put in a shred of effort if I know you are ready to throw the game by voting for me. It's also fucking pointless to defend myself or go read your wrong shit about me cause of the above reason and if I know you are dumb enough to lynch a medic today then you are also dumb enough that my defense wouldn't change anything.

Yes I'm triggered.
Yetserday we were deciding between 5 VTs, today we got it down to the same amount as we have medics and hence there is only one correct play and everyone is still arguing about medic lynches.

So all this day should be between HF, Moosy, Slam fighting it out and you know where I stand. And yes I would lynch HF last.

He is exactly right. Day 3 should be all-out WAR between HF, Moosy and Slam to figure out which of them should be the lynch. And then the rest of us weigh the evidence and pick our sides. This is what matters. And if it's a HF/Vivax team, then the reason he's *willing* to remind us that we're supposed to lynch into the VTs is obvious: He thinks that if we lynched into the medics, we'd be more likely to lynch him than we are to lynch Holyflare if we picked a VT. HF, meanwhile, has been ALL about lynching into the medics...until today, when Vivax suddenly became the medic who is clearly the most scumread, and had an avalanche of votes fall onto him at the start of the Phase. Then he tells us there are possibilities where the Night results don't make Vivax scum, and now he magically is willing to get on-board with lynching into the VTs, even if it means killing Moosy, who had been a PERENNIAL townread for him, and whose odds of being Town shot UP dramatically with the new information that points to DF being Town. I said at the end of Night 2 that the scum team was probably either Moosy/DF or HF/Vivax. Koshi said the scum team is HF/Vivax. N2 results then showed us that DF is probably Town, which means the voting record tells us Moosy is probably Town. The N2 results ALSO gave us new reasons to scumread Vivax. Yet HF suddenly no longer wants to lynch into the medics, and is ready to lynch Moosy straight through his long-standing townread of him. And Vivax, though reminding us we should lynch a VT claim, doesn't want to lynch Holyflare, either. How is this difficult, people?
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2018 12:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
People who think Holyflare is mafia here can you please explain why to me.

Oh yes. That's comin.


I can get behind this


WE SHALL FITE
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n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 13 2018 04:58 GMT
#1816
@Alakaslam: Why are you voting against Moosy? Why is he scum?

@Vivax: Why are you voting against Moosy? Why is he scum?

@Holyflare: Why are you voting against Moosy? Why is he scum? He was supposed to be a townread of yours, what happened?

No wait, I already know the answer to that last one. You're voting against Moosy today (despite townreading him all this time) because you think that after he flips town, it'll be easier to get Alakaslam shot on N3, than the other way around.

If Moosy is lynched today and flips town, who here has confidence in Alakaslam winning the war of words against HF on N3, and making HF the N3 VT kill, instead of it being himself? Nope, you fools will probably let HF lead you around by the noses again, make Alakaslam the N3 kill, watch him flip town just like Moosy did, and that will be the 4th and fatal mistake that Koshi told you that you couldn't afford to make. Because you had FOUR shots in the VT pool and missed them ALL, because you couldn't open your eyes and put HF in this noose, despite all of the ways he's tried to HELP...the MAFIA...WIN.

Holyflare told you all that he'd solved who the VT scum was, and that it was Koshi. Go back and read HF's stated reasons for scumreading Koshi. They're GARBAGE. But whaddya know? HF was able to convince Vivax & FF to make Koshi their target anyway, and then FF afk'd EoN which tied our hands, and Koshi died. And flipped town.

Holyflare told you Moosy is town, and that it was Koshi and not Moosy who should be killed on N2. Why kill Koshi ahead of Moosy? Because just as HF's ideas and plans are bad for town, Koshi's were GOOD for town. Go back and read HF's stated reasons for townreading Moosy. They, too, are GARBAGE. Why are his reasons for townreading Moosy garbage? So he can toss them aside, once it becomes convenient to do so!

I even TOLD ALL OF YOU that this would happen, ALL the way back on Page 63, when I first posted the case against Holyflare (which you should read again, because not a word of it has been disproven. Here's the relevant excerpt to this particular point though:
On March 11 2018 14:43 n00bKing wrote:
In case the shot ends up going into the VTs, he wants to make sure it doesn't hit him. Ideally, it wouldn't hit Moosy, either, so that Moosy can be the Day 3 lynch.

Boy, did I call it or WHAT? Somehow I KNEW that even despite HF's townread on Moosy, he would wind up trying to get Moosy lynched on D3 anyway, once Koshi was out of the way. And he's doing exactly what I said a scum HF would do, even though the N2 results gave him an excuse to FINALLY lynch into the medics and go after Vivax, and even though the N2 results are town-indicative for Moosy.

Wake up, wake up, wake up!

Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 13 2018 05:00 GMT
#1817
So

Throwing down some unexpected plays

##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 13 2018 05:01 GMT
#1818
On March 13 2018 13:58 n00bKing wrote:
@Alakaslam: Why are you voting against Moosy? Why is he scum?

@Vivax: Why are you voting against Moosy? Why is he scum?

@Holyflare: Why are you voting against Moosy? Why is he scum? He was supposed to be a townread of yours, what happened?

No wait, I already know the answer to that last one. You're voting against Moosy today (despite townreading him all this time) because you think that after he flips town, it'll be easier to get Alakaslam shot on N3, than the other way around.

If Moosy is lynched today and flips town, who here has confidence in Alakaslam winning the war of words against HF on N3, and making HF the N3 VT kill, instead of it being himself? Nope, you fools will probably let HF lead you around by the noses again, make Alakaslam the N3 kill, watch him flip town just like Moosy did, and that will be the 4th and fatal mistake that Koshi told you that you couldn't afford to make. Because you had FOUR shots in the VT pool and missed them ALL, because you couldn't open your eyes and put HF in this noose, despite all of the ways he's tried to HELP...the MAFIA...WIN.

Holyflare told you all that he'd solved who the VT scum was, and that it was Koshi. Go back and read HF's stated reasons for scumreading Koshi. They're GARBAGE. But whaddya know? HF was able to convince Vivax & FF to make Koshi their target anyway, and then FF afk'd EoN which tied our hands, and Koshi died. And flipped town.

Holyflare told you Moosy is town, and that it was Koshi and not Moosy who should be killed on N2. Why kill Koshi ahead of Moosy? Because just as HF's ideas and plans are bad for town, Koshi's were GOOD for town. Go back and read HF's stated reasons for townreading Moosy. They, too, are GARBAGE. Why are his reasons for townreading Moosy garbage? So he can toss them aside, once it becomes convenient to do so!

I even TOLD ALL OF YOU that this would happen, ALL the way back on Page 63, when I first posted the case against Holyflare (which you should read again, because not a word of it has been disproven. Here's the relevant excerpt to this particular point though:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 14:43 n00bKing wrote:
In case the shot ends up going into the VTs, he wants to make sure it doesn't hit him. Ideally, it wouldn't hit Moosy, either, so that Moosy can be the Day 3 lynch.

Boy, did I call it or WHAT? Somehow I KNEW that even despite HF's townread on Moosy, he would wind up trying to get Moosy lynched on D3 anyway, once Koshi was out of the way. And he's doing exactly what I said a scum HF would do, even though the N2 results gave him an excuse to FINALLY lynch into the medics and go after Vivax, and even though the N2 results are town-indicative for Moosy.

Wake up, wake up, wake up!


Ay you fucking ninja
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 13 2018 05:03 GMT
#1819
I’m just pissed I was so goddamn wrong all game.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 13 2018 05:04 GMT
#1820
And that victory could not be had with style.

Well, we shall see.
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