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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2018 14:52 GMT
#721
He explained it? He said he'd rather vote a guy who posts absolutely nothing than a guy that has posted something but could come back. Just used a lot more words.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 15:34 GMT
#722
On March 08 2018 20:56 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 20:49 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 20:38 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 19:57 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 19:04 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 18:07 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 08:56 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 08:14 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 08:03 darthfoley wrote:
Meh I thought we got him considering he was lurking at deadline


Yeah...

I'm actually warming up to Vivax's AMG read more.

On March 08 2018 07:16 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 06:56 Vivax wrote:
[quote]

Except all of this happened not at once but you went from prickly->didn't fight your read->disengaged in your argumentation where you placed your vote at the final one after noobking did.

So I can see you as mafia just building on your previous posts reacting to what you wrote to create a tubesock scumread which was consistent with what you already wrote, especially cause of your decision on when to place the vote (when another one already did)

_____

I am actually open to the idea I'm wrong on either of you atm and after reading a bit of tube (since he talks about himself instead of finding mafia most of the time, but could be cause he's been in the defensive).

And cause I'm always hesitant to lynch possible assets D1 I'm checking if there might be other ones worth lynching over df.

Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards.


I'm a single parent that works. Activity will not be consistent. And when I return to the thread with a point to make, only to see someone has already said it, I see no need to repeat what I'm saying.

And if you can't follow along with my thought process on why I've stepped away from my tubesock read, and, i was being nice about it up until this point, I'll absolutely spell it out for you: he's playing too stupid for me to expect logical and sensible responses and play from and I've gleaned that from our most recent conversation. Therefore I wont be calling him scum for not living up to the expectations that I have of him, I'm going to call him dumb town and move on to discussing other players.


So I was about to say that there is no way this lines up with the 'doesn't feel like scum' reaction to Tube not trying to make reads to save himself. But I think I'd rather ask you to reconcile those two, AMG, if you can.

The thing for me is while I liked some of his posting independently, the scumreads are pretty boring.

"You didn't talk to me when I had a different read" @tube
"You said people when I only am scumreading one person" "you say you'd normally agree with the reasoning for the tube lynch" (and be wrong) "but you take issue with me jumping on it for a different reason" @prp

There's like nothing whatsoever to these scumreads. By contrast, his townreads are fairly well-reasoned.


I'm not quite sure what you're asking me to do here?

I don't know how I can further illustrate my thought process more than what i've already put into the thread without just repeating myself.

I know what it feels like when I've latched onto a scum, tubesock didn't feel like that, he felt like incoherent town.

You're welcome to think my reads are boring, I disagree, I was once upon a time known for making reads that fly in the face of thread sentiment (see tubesock read) and I do not apologize for that.


I'm asking you how you can reconcile:
1) Tube is town because he's not coming back with a scumread (i.e. not trying to save himself a la vivax)

and

2) Tube is town because nothing he says makes sense and I can't hold him to that standard.

You gave two separate narratives for your townread that do not appear to go together to me. Maybe I'm just a dunce and there's a connection I'm not seeing, but it almost seems like you forgot your reason.



Why do I only get to have one reason to town read someone?

Tube came back, did not do what I was expecting a scum Tube to do, and then continued to talk the same brand of nonsense he was before he disappeared. I got fed up with trying to have an actual conversation with him and realised that this isn't something you can fake as scum, ergo town and I was done speaking with him.


Now lets discuss how I scum hunt since you haven't seen the pattern. I see something off. I ping them with a (occasionally obnoxious) statement. They answer, that either satisfies me and I keep walking or I dig until I get a reaction i'm satisfied with. I was unable to finish that with prplhz since he never bloody came back. My reads are much more accurate through direct interaction, as opposed to observation, where I am notoriously shit (see the last 2-3 obs threads).







Sure, but usually I don't expect two different answers to the same question like the first no longer exists.

Perhaps. Could you explain your prp read to me like I'm two? Particularly your issue with his scumreading you while liking others' reasoning on your scumread.



On March 07 2018 12:36 AMG wrote:
On March 07 2018 12:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote:
I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.

Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me....

Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope.


Well, that's not happening. In case its not painfully obvious, the other person that's caught my interest today is prplhz. His attack on me was shit and I want to hear more out of him before I make my mind up for today.

Frankly, Tubesock just doesn't seem to be operating on a coherent wavelength to me. At all.


On March 07 2018 13:16 AMG wrote:
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


The more I read this post, the less I like it.

You think the Tubesock push is something you'd normally like, but then be wrong about... so you agree with the logic? And then I'm making excuses to be on that wagon, the one you would normally like?

If you'd normally like this kind of push, but you're opting out, what gives. Why are you going against your better judgement in this one?



-snorts-

Do you honestly think that quoting the things I saw and quoted as a bs scumread is somehow going to magically help me understand your point of view if you're town?

What the hell do you even find scummy about that?


No I'm just getting damn sick of repeating myself.

If you can't follow along with my thought processes on those above posts then.. well I give up ?

Im not asking you to repeat yourself. I understand that you say that you think it's scummy for someone to scumread you for jumping on a wagon for a different reason than the one they generally find compelling but would probably be wrong about.

I want to understand WHY you think the above is scummy.

Because to me his reasoning is obvious.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 15:41 GMT
#723
On March 08 2018 21:07 Holyflare wrote:
I also really dislike your post on amg and think it's extreme hypocrisy.

You base half of it saying his prplhz read is weak when it's not. Prplhz invented a sentence that never happened.

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


You are for some reason focused on the word people and not the entire sentence about him making excuses. Amg simply says he hasn't made excuses and he only scum reads one person. So in all honesty you've extrapolated one argument of two and tried to push that.

Furthermore, you ride this df is town read forever but when he tries to "correct" me that he had in fact made a scum read on prplhz in a post that you yourself commented on (!) you mention nothing.

Show nested quote +
Regarding to "not alluding to why they are mafia" I think this post alludes pretty obviously

On March 07 2018 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


Not sure what this is referring to. I feel like AMG has been pretty open so far.


Did you know this was a darthfoley scum read? It sure is fleshed out and puts a firm stance on prplhz being mafia.

Why have you only picked up amg for this stance on prplhz and not like 5 other players. Especially df who has no concrete scum read on anyone in this entire game.


First, I did already say df had the same BAD reason.

Second, I take more issue with AMGs add-on that DF did NOT push.

Third, of course it's weak. If someone adds on to what you perceive to be a town wagon for something like 'he didn't care to talk to me about our different reads', if you think that person is scum it would absolutely

BE AN EXCUSE INVENTED TO JOIN AN EXISTING WAGON.

It's not stating he literally made an excuse like an apology. That's retarded to even think.

You can't invent a fact from a perception, and there's nothing wrong with that perception besides. Why can't a town prp think amg could be scum inventing an excuse to join a wagon?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 08 2018 15:55 GMT
#724
On March 08 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
He explained it? He said he'd rather vote a guy who posts absolutely nothing than a guy that has posted something but could come back. Just used a lot more words.


I missed that post.

Not happy with the explanation.

On March 08 2018 14:18 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:10 n00bKing wrote:
Ok, I'm off.

On March 08 2018 06:32 n00bKing wrote:
Does anyone agree with HF's assessment of DF's play in other games?

Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC

Why him over prpl?

...huh?

Because Kelsier was a no-show (in the game thread at least) and prpl wasn't. You act like one vs. the other is an equivalent choice. It's not.

If people want to make a big deal over this, I can explain further. But I would have thought that the reasons why you lynch a literal no-show (like Kelsier or chaoser) over someone who makes a few posts and then bails for the rest of the Phase (like prpl or damdred) were fairly obvious.


And further explained down here.

Paragraph 1: Explains he doesn't care that he thought prpl was scummy cause he's lynching for information and KSC is better in that regard. Doesn't make the slightest sense but whatever. Basically it's banking on KSC never posting for the rest of the game and an overly worded afk policy lynch.

Paragraph 2: Something about his subjective experience about what players do who don't participate D1 as further justification.

Paragraph 3: The bolded stands for b as in bullshit cause we've had discussion revolving around tubesock, prpl to a lesser extent, df all day and Noob basically ignored all of that in his decision on who to put his vote on. And that's already an invalid premise to his entire paragraph since he's claiming there was no consensus anywhere when he was in the thread while df had 3 votes and was leading wagon if I recall correctly.

On March 08 2018 15:28 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 14:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 08 2018 14:18 n00bKing wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:10 n00bKing wrote:
Ok, I'm off.

On March 08 2018 06:32 n00bKing wrote:
Does anyone agree with HF's assessment of DF's play in other games?

Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC

Why him over prpl?

...huh?

Because Kelsier was a no-show (in the game thread at least) and prpl wasn't. You act like one vs. the other is an equivalent choice. It's not.

If people want to make a big deal over this, I can explain further. But I would have thought that the reasons why you lynch a literal no-show (like Kelsier or chaoser) over someone who makes a few posts and then bails for the rest of the Phase (like prpl or damdred) were fairly obvious.

meh. I disagree with this. You get more information from killing someone who is a lurker from their few posts. There is always the possibility that a completely afk person continues to be afk in which case he'll be modkilled and we wouldn't have wasted anything on him.

You can't get as much information from killing someone who is low-activity as you can get from seeing what they say if they aren't DEAD. In my experience, people who are low activity usually tend to come back. And if they're Town, they can still contribute (they did show SOME interest in participating in the game after it started, at least, and they have seen SOME of what happened, as it happened) and if they're Scum, their posts will give you more opportunities to catch them. As well as more opportunities to see who they end up tied to WHILE you catch them.

Conversely, I've virtually never seen a total Day 1 no-show Town player come into the thread later, and then play like a rock star. Those players hadn't shown that interest in participating, and then by the time they come along, the thread is unwieldy, and reading filters doesn't yield context if you weren't following along at the time. Even reading the thread straight through may not yield proper context, if you aren't paying attention to timestamps the whole way too. The value to the Town of a Town player who no-showed Day 1 is LOW. But the value to the Mafia of a Mafia player who no-showed Day 1 is still HIGH. His value to his team erodes at a MUCH slower rate, and that doesn't even account for the possibility that the Mafia no-show has actually been participating in the scum thread while hiding from the game thread, in which case he's already adding utility for his team.

If Day 1 discussion yields a reasonably strong consensus of who to scumread, you always lynch that player first. If not, and there's a player with ZERO posts, you fall back on lynching him, over players who are merely low-activity. That's the way the game was taught to me, and I feel like the logic is sound. My attempts to get votes onto Tubesock *lost* ground, and then stalled altogether, as he ceased to even be a topic anymore. I didn't like lynching the counterwagon, so I went to the no-shows and picking Kelsier over chaoser made good sense to me for reasons that I hopefully don't need to repeat to you.


Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 08 2018 16:07 GMT
#725
On March 08 2018 06:05 n00bKing wrote:
Alright HF, you've said that DF's filter is "all just filler posts and no actual want to solve anything" and followed up later by saying "No drive, probably mafia." But we have plenty of players in the game who have shown no drive, or have put in no effort to solve anything, or have been no help. Kelsier and chaoser have been no help. prpl has been no help. I feel like Tubesock has been no help. When we're 46 hours into the game, I think you'd have to categorize Damdred (and his mighty single-page filter) as having been little or no help. If I lump DF into that category, it means that fully half of the other 12 players in the game with me have been no help.

So I don't think DF's lack of drive automatically makes him a good lynch, unless you feel like a Town DF *would* show an actual "want to solve anything" and *would* show "drive." Is that the case? Because again, unless there's reason for you to expect more than this from a Town DF, then I don't see anything that makes this particular mole the one that needs whacking.

His posting style is pretty careless. The filter is filled with him either repeating something he already said, or repeating something someone else already said.

An example of him repeating himself is this post:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 07:27 darthfoley wrote:
n00b/rsoultin/AMG/Damdred is my town list ATM

He'd already named all 4 of those players as townreads. No need for a new, distinct post that merely says the same thing.

And an example of him repeating another player is this:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 04:49 darthfoley wrote:
FF's filter reads like he's heavily influenced by the slightest amount of thread sentiment.

he's talked about lynching prplhz, rsoultin, vivax, Tubesock, me with basically no explanation.

Which is basically everyone that has had any pressure on him/herself today. I'm fine scum reading him

That post might as well be a copy & paste of Moosy's "King of Wagons" thing. (By the way, I think "Wagon King" would sound way cooler than "King of Wagons." Calls to mind the Witch King. Good stuff.)

DF also parroted my verbiage almost exactly, when talking about prpl's "wishy washyness."

I'd expect a little more caution and a little more mindfulness than this, from most scum players. If a scum player wasn't going to pay any more attention than this, why bother even making the posts? Just be yet another afk dude instead.


Not just that. This post at the time when df had 3 votes and Noob was still on TS basically reads like him starting to want to defend df by dividing players by usefulness then starts summing up reasons for him being scummy instead.

But concludes with this:


I'd expect a little more caution and a little more mindfulness than this, from most scum players. If a scum player wasn't going to pay any more attention than this, why bother even making the posts? Just be yet another afk dude instead.


So he took the argumentation for DF being mafia and concluded the opposite cause according to him there were enough afks for df not to post anything. Too scummy to be scum while he could be afk.

Disregarding that an afk DF has probably never occurred on TL mafia as either alignment.

I don't even know if he's right on wrong on DF here but if I were say a town DF and I had someone use this type of reasoning to townread me, I'd probably scumread him.

Either way, he mostly just delivered a summary of some things df said without analysis besides his arbitrary conclusion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 08 2018 16:15 GMT
#726
Kelsier when are you going to be around, time-wise? Currently you are a big load of nothing so at least give us a way to estimate when you are in thread. Besides it's only fair if you do that to know if you are actively doing nothing or just not around.

Provided you are town and care enough.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 16:16 GMT
#727
In other news, are we going to vote? Because I like voting, and I'm going to blatantly ignore this thread until Lex starts his night shift (if I can control myself). I mean, obv we can't force medics to go with the vote, but just having one puts some more info in the thread and I see no reason why not.

(I'm reading your stuff, Viva, and will give it it's due but probably not before night ends.)

Personally I think that a low-poster we're likely to not be able to read well should be the medic vig since their continued participation is unlikely to yield much more information.

Prp seems the best as HF suggested.

I'd also entertain KSC, because I'm torn between it being slightly towny for him to even start playing now, and his entrance being entirely NOT which makes me wonder if he's just trying to dodge a potential shot in the first place without adding anything into the thread to give away scummates.

I'd rather have more time with AMG, DF, noobking, etc.

Not advocating a slam or a damdred shot. Slam should start posting. Damdred looked town from what he posted and I'm comfortable reading him (though I will add that he hasn't posted anything to trigger my 100% confidence read yet, so grain of salt).
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 08 2018 16:18 GMT
#728
I'm fine with agreeing with you and HF and going for prplhz as vig target.
Let's start our own votecount or something?

##Vote prplhz


(for getting vigidoctored)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 16:20 GMT
#729
##Vote: prplhz
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2018 16:20 GMT
#730
I agree that noob's df post is weird af. So if df flips town I'm going after him. Everything will change.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2018 16:21 GMT
#731
I'm healing df no matter what btw so this vote is for the 2 others.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2018 16:24 GMT
#732
On March 09 2018 00:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 21:07 Holyflare wrote:
I also really dislike your post on amg and think it's extreme hypocrisy.

You base half of it saying his prplhz read is weak when it's not. Prplhz invented a sentence that never happened.

On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


You are for some reason focused on the word people and not the entire sentence about him making excuses. Amg simply says he hasn't made excuses and he only scum reads one person. So in all honesty you've extrapolated one argument of two and tried to push that.

Furthermore, you ride this df is town read forever but when he tries to "correct" me that he had in fact made a scum read on prplhz in a post that you yourself commented on (!) you mention nothing.

Regarding to "not alluding to why they are mafia" I think this post alludes pretty obviously

On March 07 2018 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


Not sure what this is referring to. I feel like AMG has been pretty open so far.


Did you know this was a darthfoley scum read? It sure is fleshed out and puts a firm stance on prplhz being mafia.

Why have you only picked up amg for this stance on prplhz and not like 5 other players. Especially df who has no concrete scum read on anyone in this entire game.


First, I did already say df had the same BAD reason.

Second, I take more issue with AMGs add-on that DF did NOT push.

Third, of course it's weak. If someone adds on to what you perceive to be a town wagon for something like 'he didn't care to talk to me about our different reads', if you think that person is scum it would absolutely

BE AN EXCUSE INVENTED TO JOIN AN EXISTING WAGON.

It's not stating he literally made an excuse like an apology. That's retarded to even think.

You can't invent a fact from a perception, and there's nothing wrong with that perception besides. Why can't a town prp think amg could be scum inventing an excuse to join a wagon?


Yes but where is Amg's excuse to join the prplhz wagon? I also think the plural of it is a lazy read and not a typo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 08 2018 16:31 GMT
#733
On March 09 2018 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 00:41 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 21:07 Holyflare wrote:
I also really dislike your post on amg and think it's extreme hypocrisy.

You base half of it saying his prplhz read is weak when it's not. Prplhz invented a sentence that never happened.

On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


You are for some reason focused on the word people and not the entire sentence about him making excuses. Amg simply says he hasn't made excuses and he only scum reads one person. So in all honesty you've extrapolated one argument of two and tried to push that.

Furthermore, you ride this df is town read forever but when he tries to "correct" me that he had in fact made a scum read on prplhz in a post that you yourself commented on (!) you mention nothing.

Regarding to "not alluding to why they are mafia" I think this post alludes pretty obviously

On March 07 2018 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


Not sure what this is referring to. I feel like AMG has been pretty open so far.


Did you know this was a darthfoley scum read? It sure is fleshed out and puts a firm stance on prplhz being mafia.

Why have you only picked up amg for this stance on prplhz and not like 5 other players. Especially df who has no concrete scum read on anyone in this entire game.


First, I did already say df had the same BAD reason.

Second, I take more issue with AMGs add-on that DF did NOT push.

Third, of course it's weak. If someone adds on to what you perceive to be a town wagon for something like 'he didn't care to talk to me about our different reads', if you think that person is scum it would absolutely

BE AN EXCUSE INVENTED TO JOIN AN EXISTING WAGON.

It's not stating he literally made an excuse like an apology. That's retarded to even think.

You can't invent a fact from a perception, and there's nothing wrong with that perception besides. Why can't a town prp think amg could be scum inventing an excuse to join a wagon?


Yes but where is Amg's excuse to join the prplhz wagon? I also think the plural of it is a lazy read and not a typo.


Forgive my interdiction but prplhz was talking about AMG making excuses to join a wagon on tubesock, not prplhlz iirc.

I also had that feeling when I saw the way AMG hooked himself between noobking and tubesock and then started piling reasons for tubesock to be mafia.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 16:38 GMT
#734
On March 09 2018 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 00:41 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 21:07 Holyflare wrote:
I also really dislike your post on amg and think it's extreme hypocrisy.

You base half of it saying his prplhz read is weak when it's not. Prplhz invented a sentence that never happened.

On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


You are for some reason focused on the word people and not the entire sentence about him making excuses. Amg simply says he hasn't made excuses and he only scum reads one person. So in all honesty you've extrapolated one argument of two and tried to push that.

Furthermore, you ride this df is town read forever but when he tries to "correct" me that he had in fact made a scum read on prplhz in a post that you yourself commented on (!) you mention nothing.

Regarding to "not alluding to why they are mafia" I think this post alludes pretty obviously

On March 07 2018 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


Not sure what this is referring to. I feel like AMG has been pretty open so far.


Did you know this was a darthfoley scum read? It sure is fleshed out and puts a firm stance on prplhz being mafia.

Why have you only picked up amg for this stance on prplhz and not like 5 other players. Especially df who has no concrete scum read on anyone in this entire game.


First, I did already say df had the same BAD reason.

Second, I take more issue with AMGs add-on that DF did NOT push.

Third, of course it's weak. If someone adds on to what you perceive to be a town wagon for something like 'he didn't care to talk to me about our different reads', if you think that person is scum it would absolutely

BE AN EXCUSE INVENTED TO JOIN AN EXISTING WAGON.

It's not stating he literally made an excuse like an apology. That's retarded to even think.

You can't invent a fact from a perception, and there's nothing wrong with that perception besides. Why can't a town prp think amg could be scum inventing an excuse to join a wagon?


Yes but where is Amg's excuse to join the prplhz wagon? I also think the plural of it is a lazy read and not a typo.


You can think that. Just as I can think that "he's making excuses to scumread people" can be a general rather than a precise statement. Given that's how English works

The long and short of it is that's a belief that could easily go either way and isn't (in my opinion) worth pushing, though you started the Tube thing so obviously people have different bars for how precise a player's language must be to be considered town.

Prp absolutely could be scum. I just don't see how anything he actually posted MAKES him scum.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 08 2018 17:06 GMT
#735
On March 09 2018 01:15 Vivax wrote:
Kelsier when are you going to be around, time-wise? Currently you are a big load of nothing so at least give us a way to estimate when you are in thread. Besides it's only fair if you do that to know if you are actively doing nothing or just not around.

Provided you are town and care enough.


mhmm i'll start reading in about 3 hours time.

I apologise for joking earlier, forgetting about the game was a really shitty thing to do.
Zerg for Life
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 08 2018 17:20 GMT
#736
On March 08 2018 18:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
prepare yerselves for endless shitposting from the master of shitposting

urstruly
moosydoosy

How come absolutely nothing came of this? Couple of all-caps posts about how you're about to go berserk, and then this, and then...fizzle.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 08 2018 17:22 GMT
#737
On March 08 2018 20:29 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 19:47 Holyflare wrote:
I like him. Annoyed he didn't vote df but haven't been able to check why he switched yet.

He went after n00bking who voted for an AFK slot.

Which in no way explains why his vote just stayed on me, instead of going somewhere that had anything to do with the EoD.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 08 2018 17:24 GMT
#738
On March 09 2018 02:20 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 18:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
prepare yerselves for endless shitposting from the master of shitposting

urstruly
moosydoosy

How come absolutely nothing came of this? Couple of all-caps posts about how you're about to go berserk, and then this, and then...fizzle.


Same could be said for you. Your lynch is on the table but your involvement seems less than D1 to me.

Plenty of things to talk about, why just randomly point at moosy for an unfulfilled joke promise and then do nothing with it?
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 08 2018 17:26 GMT
#739
On March 08 2018 22:51 Vivax wrote:
And his rebuttal to the suggestion that we direct medics except darthfoley guarantees that nobody is protected tonight.

Yep. My rebuttal is also the right course of action. You can agree with me or be wrong. *shrug*
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
March 08 2018 17:30 GMT
#740
It's like you don't feel misrepped at all by what I wrote. Do you not even have a flimsy bit of omgus in you when I've been posting about you for almost a cycle? Pretty unnatural if you ask me. AMG reacted in a more townie way to my attacks in that regard.
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