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Pregame excuse: le tour de france
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I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far.
The whole point of him on Ruxxar is that he didn't scumread EC for:
On July 13 2017 07:09 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 06:56 ruXxar wrote:
Distracting town with off-topic discussion.
I see you are pulling out the tricks early. What's off topic about scum hunting ? How's your raynometer feeling? Wait, wait wait. Your first sentence was referring to HF context post as if I was accusing HF of off topic discussion. BUT. You second sentence is referring to Rayn as if he was the suspect target. I'm getting conflicting messaging here.
On July 13 2017 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you pushing this EC thing further, she literally just answered you by talking about something completely different than what you asked.
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.
Anyway thats not the main point:
If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time.
On July 13 2017 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i never said your case on EC wasn't townie, it was the best post in the thread. But you just threw it in the trash for no reason, and that makes you mafia.
Tell me this:
1) Why cannot, let's say Damdred, sickluckr and VA be mafia, as you are totally fine with geript dying by "poe"?
2) If they can, why are you actually totally fine with geript dying?
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.
On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??
rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
On geript:
On July 13 2017 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:18 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
try to tell why geript If I figure it out, I'll explain then. try something
On July 13 2017 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:28 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote:On July 13 2017 07:22 geript wrote:
Hey HF. Find the worst post in the thread up to this point and quote it. On July 13 2017 06:10 rsoultin wrote:
Lexy kicked me out for hosty reasons pffft. Leave me gifts for morning?
♡s a ruxxy pupil want to vomit blood On July 13 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think you're trying a bit too hard for the state of the game but i dont know what it means. trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again Not the post I wanted you to pick up on so I could like you more...  this is also a terrible post.
On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
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On July 13 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also that's the worst reason ever to read holyflare town.
I have a good case on geript, do you?
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed.
I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me".
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
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On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it?
Good point.
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On July 13 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it? because i don't think the case was particularly good. i think the post was good, the observation was townie imo.i don't think EC not answering it makes him mafia, especially after how he seems to be approaching the situations in this game -- aka looking them from a completely different view. Like Skynx just created a narrative for where my actions fit. They don't, if you actually look behind why i am posting what i am. I am not really gonna say anything more about it, you can believe him if you want to, but that just makes you bad. 
You gona have to expand on the bolded. You called it the best post in the thread. If the case wasn't good why do you expect him to keep pushing EC? Doesn't pushing someone with bad reasons suggest mafia agenda?
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Post good/case not good/observation townie. You're all over the place man.
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On July 13 2017 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:08 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it? because i don't think the case was particularly good. i think the post was good, the observation was townie imo.i don't think EC not answering it makes him mafia, especially after how he seems to be approaching the situations in this game -- aka looking them from a completely different view. Like Skynx just created a narrative for where my actions fit. They don't, if you actually look behind why i am posting what i am. I am not really gonna say anything more about it, you can believe him if you want to, but that just makes you bad. You gona have to expand on the bolded. You called it the best post in the thread. If the case wasn't good why do you expect him to keep pushing EC? Doesn't pushing someone with bad reasons suggest mafia agenda? because he clearly thought the case is good. like your case on me is trash but i still don't think you are mafia. it's a townie post. those two things are completely different. so please do not compare them, that's how you end up lynching townies.
Lol so you were baiting Ruxxar or what? You pointed out EC's mistake first, then claimed Ruxxar's post the best post?? like wtf?
If you thought the case was shit then you don't say that. If you actually liked the case then that makes EC mafia along with Ruxxar. Simple calculus...
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On July 13 2017 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:22 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 21:08 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it? because i don't think the case was particularly good. i think the post was good, the observation was townie imo.i don't think EC not answering it makes him mafia, especially after how he seems to be approaching the situations in this game -- aka looking them from a completely different view. Like Skynx just created a narrative for where my actions fit. They don't, if you actually look behind why i am posting what i am. I am not really gonna say anything more about it, you can believe him if you want to, but that just makes you bad. You gona have to expand on the bolded. You called it the best post in the thread. If the case wasn't good why do you expect him to keep pushing EC? Doesn't pushing someone with bad reasons suggest mafia agenda? because he clearly thought the case is good. like your case on me is trash but i still don't think you are mafia. it's a townie post. those two things are completely different. so please do not compare them, that's how you end up lynching townies. Lol so you were baiting Ruxxar or what? You pointed out EC's mistake first, then claimed Ruxxar's post the best post?? like wtf? If you thought the case was shit then you don't say that. If you actually liked the case then that makes EC mafia along with Ruxxar. Simple calculus... i am not following you here. where did i point out EC's mistake?
On July 13 2017 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:
What's off topic about scum hunting ?
oh this is interesting, where was i scumhunting?
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On July 13 2017 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:24 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 21:22 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 21:08 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it? because i don't think the case was particularly good. i think the post was good, the observation was townie imo.i don't think EC not answering it makes him mafia, especially after how he seems to be approaching the situations in this game -- aka looking them from a completely different view. Like Skynx just created a narrative for where my actions fit. They don't, if you actually look behind why i am posting what i am. I am not really gonna say anything more about it, you can believe him if you want to, but that just makes you bad. You gona have to expand on the bolded. You called it the best post in the thread. If the case wasn't good why do you expect him to keep pushing EC? Doesn't pushing someone with bad reasons suggest mafia agenda? because he clearly thought the case is good. like your case on me is trash but i still don't think you are mafia. it's a townie post. those two things are completely different. so please do not compare them, that's how you end up lynching townies. Lol so you were baiting Ruxxar or what? You pointed out EC's mistake first, then claimed Ruxxar's post the best post?? like wtf? If you thought the case was shit then you don't say that. If you actually liked the case then that makes EC mafia along with Ruxxar. Simple calculus... i am not following you here. where did i point out EC's mistake? On July 13 2017 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:
What's off topic about scum hunting ?
oh this is interesting, where was i scumhunting? unless i am completely mistaken EC wasn't talkign about me, which he cleared after.
Thats not the point. EC was talking out of his ass, you pointed it out but thats it. Then Ruxxar took it a step further pushed him a bit. Then you scumread Ruxxar for not pushing further while ignoring EC.
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On July 13 2017 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
here is how it went:
EC makes the post.
I misunderstand it and ask him about it.
He clears that up.
I am okay with that.
After the clarification ruxxar points out something else about the post and the clarification.
On July 13 2017 07:09 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 06:56 ruXxar wrote:
Distracting town with off-topic discussion.
I see you are pulling out the tricks early. What's off topic about scum hunting ? How's your raynometer feeling? Wait, wait wait. Your first sentence was referring to HF context post as if I was accusing HF of off topic discussion. BUT. You second sentence is referring to Rayn as if he was the suspect target. I'm getting conflicting messaging here.
On July 13 2017 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wow that was a top notch post.
You were posting trash metal songs, Ruxxar pointed out its off topic.
EC thought he was referring to HF. You picked it up, he was referring to you but you weren't scumhunting.
But you did nothing.
Ruxxar picked it up well.
The fact that you say you're ok with EC's mistake then realising holy shit its not that simple but not pushing EC while scumreading Ruxxar just doesn't add up man.
I'm just repeating my words here, I'm not moving for now cuz you're not making sense.
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Meh i'm gona take a break then continue from where i left reading.
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Back now catching up. TdF was amazing today.
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On July 13 2017 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:40 Skynx wrote:
Meh i'm gona take a break then continue from where i left reading. so you basically did a case on me based on what i said the first couple of hours and without reading the actual explanations at all. man i was so right here: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
this guy can go to ignore pile.
he's probably gonna throw if it comes close.
I told at the very beginning that I haven't read the whole thing. You just stuck out for me there.
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On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this: You have three options: 1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally. 2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times. 3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!
Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry. + Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1.
I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again.
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Aka I don't think that makes Ruxxar mafia. On contrary I thought that made you and emp mafia together, now I'm considering emp alone.
Might have to dig up old games, I was confident reading emp but been like a year we played together.
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Who you wanna talk about?
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I'm still trying to get thoughts together, also haven't fully read yet had to go eat in between.
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VA's reactions are incredibly scummy lol
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Ja. If you hate getting N1'd why not smurf?
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rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?
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On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this
Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.
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Also Damdred, I don't like you buddying geript solely based on meta and feels.
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On July 14 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town. Town reads??!
scumreads my bad
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On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town. Me and who else is town? Geript? Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?
Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.
When I have too many scumreads i tell myself "ok thats prolly not all right" and reconsider most of them. Believe or not this stuff helps later on, they all add to general value of how you consider other people are scumhunting. That helped for example we couldn't catch rayn last game cuz he didn't reveal anything and just barked Rels is scum all game long.
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Man Damdred tr'ing geript this hard while telling this little just bugs me a lot. btdt had a similar Koshi read I picked up on last game which came out of nowhere and kicked myself for lynching him that late.
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?
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On July 14 2017 03:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town. Me and who else is town? Geript? Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has? Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me. When I have too many scumreads i tell myself "ok thats prolly not all right" and reconsider most of them. Believe or not this stuff helps later on, they all add to general value of how you consider other people are scumhunting. That helped for example we couldn't catch rayn last game cuz he didn't reveal anything and just barked Rels is scum all game long. Sure, but 3 scum reads is within the realm of actual mafia in the game, so it's not too many. And he is re-evaluating. Just earlier he was deadest on me being mafia. Now he is die hard wanting to lynch VA. I would say he is evolving his reads.
Thats pretty much the point of me asking. I didn't really notice him dropping read on you.
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I dunno about this version of Koshi, will have to wait and see I guess. Might be just to avoid N1 kill.
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On July 14 2017 03:34 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Man Damdred tr'ing geript this hard while telling this little just bugs me a lot. btdt had a similar Koshi read I picked up on last game which came out of nowhere and kicked myself for lynching him that late.
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way? Err have you even read my posts at this point? I've explained both of my reads pretty decently go this point. You make it sound like I haven't said anything when I literally just have a fairly long reads list not even 3 pages ago probably?
I can read your filter. All i see is meta and 'just trust me'.
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On July 14 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:19 Skynx wrote:
I dunno about this version of Koshi, will have to wait and see I guess. Might be just to avoid N1 kill. SL insisted that this was planned by koshi. Koshi himself insists that different doesn't mean mafia(blue). From my point of view, like I told koshi last game, I was really excited to play with him again since he was such an interesting upbeat funny jesting dude to play with that had god reads. This game I can't even recognize him. Everything about him is just wrong. I'm not gonna buy the blue bait, I want him to become his old self. And if he doesn't, then he is mafia and can die.
It's sort of a trend in this last 6 months or so where his mafia game became too obvious cuz he's just so out there as town so i don't blame him for changing styles as he's either easy to read as mafia or gets nk'd d1 every game.
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On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig
literally no one ever calls my D1 town.
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On July 14 2017 03:58 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 03:34 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Man Damdred tr'ing geript this hard while telling this little just bugs me a lot. btdt had a similar Koshi read I picked up on last game which came out of nowhere and kicked myself for lynching him that late.
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way? Err have you even read my posts at this point? I've explained both of my reads pretty decently go this point. You make it sound like I haven't said anything when I literally just have a fairly long reads list not even 3 pages ago probably? I can read your filter. All i see is meta and 'just trust me'. The reasoning I used on Tina is not totally meta based like you are implying. Geript might be highly meta based but I know he's town.
On July 13 2017 10:59 Damdred wrote:
I'm right about geript 100% rayb.
And rux Idk what you want exactly me to take her post and just mark everything as boring? Like it by itself does make her mafia, and it doesn't necessarily even make her mafia. I'd just rather lynch Tina when she acts a certain way over someone like you who I don't know how to read yet and don't have enough information on.
I misread this, my bad. I thought you meant tina acts a certain way as in a certain way she plays normally.
On July 13 2017 11:08 Damdred wrote:
For the record rux probably is town at this point just vfor the sheer ampint of prodding and trying to find answers that generally scum wouldn't care about.
Maybe he's a show high skill summer and I'm unaware. But scum shouldn't care that I'm halfway talking about policy lynching tina, (unless they are scum together at least)
And as for your experience with Tina rux, I think the quality of her posts as town etc at much higher than her scum posts even though she tried hard as scum.
But that's neither here or there. I would say maybe put lot I the lurkers into the maybe lynch but that's meh.
Still some meta here but re-reading i can kinda see your pow now.
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On July 14 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
TW is right, I also like your tone skynx.
You have an analytical, critical yet patient and non-derogatory demeanor about you.
I enjoy reading your posts and talking to you.
I enjoy talking to you too dear. My gf doesn't have to know.
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Geript did you just copy my case on rayn and projected on me as "half truths"?
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On July 14 2017 17:39 Holyflare wrote:
I'm killing you tonight and then lynching damdred. Deal with ittttt.
Mafia claim?
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On July 14 2017 18:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 18:40 geript wrote:
You saying he's analytical when that's basically not the meaning of the word He made a big case on Rayn = analytical. That's all there is to it.
He's accusing me of having a bullshit case, rest of it is dumb as fuck. If you find my case analytical and like my tone then how can you scumread me at all??
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Thats not true, analytical and bullshit at the same time is misleading case, usually = mafia.
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Anyway,
On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.
Anyway thats not the main point:
If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.
On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??
rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point? The real kicker is here: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here. ***BIG POINT READ THIS***Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
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I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it? Good point. Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this: You have three options: 1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally. 2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times. 3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!
Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry. + Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1. I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again. Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread. Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town. Me and who else is town? Geript? Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has? Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me. People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place. Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way? Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it. TLDR 1. Skynx downplays his own post 2. Skynx picks at trivial things 3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn 4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has
I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.
How does that mean that? What i said up to that point doesn't change with what he did after a certain point in the thread? In my world what he did there associated him with EC as possible partners.
The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.
Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again.
I don't see where are you going with this. "To what point" what? If you don't find my scumread on him genuine thats like your opinion man, not a fact so don't present it like that.
***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.
Yes thanks for big announcers, you already pointed out that I haven't read it the whole thing.
Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.
So? What about the +1? HF liked my points im trying to get him on board here. Isn't that pushing my idea? But you try to paint me like i just don't do anything about rayn? Fuck you again.
People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.
A random meta read. It's not even meta its just what you think of what other people think about you. Again its not a fact, you're like BBC, with the "almost without exception". rayn's point about you was bullshit, your defence post was good. If i dont find it dogshit calling me scum for it is just dumb. Fuck you again.
Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.
I've already discussed this with damdred, i've read everything he had to say about you which was only "meta". Nothing more.
TL:DR
1) is wrong
2) I don't know what this means? Whats your point?
3) Doesn't make me scum
4) I said at the beginning I haven't read everything, i made a case up to whatever point i've read because i caught on to something. I'm not trying to pretend anything, i claim at the beginning. You're just wrong.
You making a TL;DR for others while accusing me of not reading the thread is a roflable hypocrysie on its own.
I don't think this is sort of a case that comes from town, as you're not deluded here, you're just trying to paint me as scum with clever wording and none of what you said actually makes me scum. That last "meta" point is just trademark scumcase closer, trying to add a random point just to add more flavor. I've seen it so many times.
##Vote: geript
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Congratz geript you got me triggered.
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On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?
Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta? Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post. Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.
It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game. There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt?? Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that. The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town. And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx. And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta?
Ruxxar is prolly mafia cuz of this aswell, I mean if you always thought my case was analytical but bullshit at the same time, sr me for it or something. Now that there is a case it looks very opportunistic to jump on me while claiming oh i always had the same thoughts on him.
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On July 14 2017 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay i should probably stop defending my scumreads rn but Skynx you're making yourself an easy lynch like this... And i don't like it because i don't think youre mafia.
You didn't answer me previously, is it geript/ruxxar/va?
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On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything.
Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional.
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On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope.
We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please?
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On July 14 2017 20:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:31 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?
Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta? Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post. Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.
It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game. There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt?? Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that. The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town. And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx. And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta? Ruxxar is prolly mafia cuz of this aswell, I mean if you always thought my case was analytical but bullshit at the same time, sr me for it or something. Now that there is a case it looks very opportunistic to jump on me while claiming oh i always had the same thoughts on him. I didn't SR you right away since I have a soft spot/blindside for "bad town". I've now decided to see what happens when I go against that intuition, breaking that barrier.
Thats my point. I didn't do anything differently in that period and everything geript said was already available to you but when he presented them that was enough for you to change your mind?
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On July 14 2017 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:40 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope. We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please? I dont have reasons to scumread you, i just wish you would stop saying dumb things that can get you lynched, like saying ruxxar made a townie thing in where he called you mafia and then you called him mafia for it.
??????
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On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va.
something something disfo townreads my madness (<3) so im faking it.
His case is 90% throwing dirt/cherrypicking stuff, i don't get the misinformed town vibe from it as they aren't this tryhard to scumread someone. There is the thing tho, in an ideal world two scum won't create a train like that. But last game scum didn't influence a 5-5 vote on their roleblocker so i don't even know anymore. Scum can do anything.
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On July 14 2017 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:47 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:40 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope. We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please? I dont have reasons to scumread you, i just wish you would stop saying dumb things that can get you lynched, like saying ruxxar made a townie thing in where he called you mafia and then you called him mafia for it. ?????? You argued that one of the reasons you think ruxxar is mafia for is that he calls your post analytical and bullshit at the same time. I tell you that a post can be analytical and bullshit at the same time. You agree. Then you say if a post is analytical and bullshit at the same time it comes from mafia. So basically you are saying that ruxxar is mafia for thinking you are mafia for things that make people mafia....
That's not the thing that makes him mafia. Is ruxxar a he or she?
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Why not play normally VA?
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On July 14 2017 22:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
interesting indeed! reminds me of rayn townreading SL last game when it made no sense for credit
Koshi had a similar baseless read. Correctly reading sl is pretty nai.
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On July 14 2017 22:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 22:44 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 22:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
interesting indeed! reminds me of rayn townreading SL last game when it made no sense for credit Koshi had a similar baseless read. Correctly reading sl is pretty nai. No that is bullshit. My read was 100% based on his tone after the misslynch. It was a legit read.
You might be some senpai but it was pretty coinflip imo.
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VA, im mainly scumreading you for that terribad reaction to rayn's scumread. Make an effort like Palmar did and i will do my best to lynch Ruxxar/geript.
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On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote.
What? TW was 100 town????
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On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote. What? TW was 100 town???? Yes?
What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong?
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Lol i thought that was your mafia trio
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Can we lynch geript please his case is bad.
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On July 15 2017 02:26 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:21 geript wrote:On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. That's a big false dichotomy there. What do you mean? Idk about Rux. He's been super active. But skynx and I could both be Town.
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On July 15 2017 02:36 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:33 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 02:26 geript wrote:On July 15 2017 02:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:21 geript wrote:On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:
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You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this.
tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. That's a big false dichotomy there. What do you mean? Idk about Rux. He's been super active. But skynx and I could both be Town. ?????? Are you surprised? Do you think you could be not Town?
Do you think you could be town? Are you sure?
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On July 15 2017 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
No he means he's town and skynx could be town. It's not a slip and you're all retarded.
I'm questioning why the fuck he randomly thinks skynx is town now after being so convicted before.
No one is questioning is it tvs or not. Why would he bring both of the alignments together?
But that point is true aswell, what did i so townish geript?
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On July 15 2017 02:42 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:40 geript wrote:
I think he could be town. TBH idk who I want to lynch. Why is he now possible town? I've already answered this
No you did not?
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All these town reads coming out of nowhere
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On July 14 2017 07:25 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
Honestly I can see townies do everything you've listed though.
I can too too, I just find it much less likely to happen considering how consistently bad he's been.
Have i been less consistently bad? Now you call my responsw terrible?
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If you mean what i actually think you mean you're my 100% lynch now.
You thought not even that long after you wrote that case that all of those could be by town?? You didn't want to demote your case to a "he's in bad town/possible scum" category then but now suddenly you bring it up. What is your motivation even writing that case?
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On July 15 2017 02:52 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:47 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 07:25 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
Honestly I can see townies do everything you've listed though.
I can too too, I just find it much less likely to happen considering how consistently bad he's been. Have i been less consistently bad? Now you call my responsw terrible? Like my response was playful and funny. Do I expect you to respond like "Of course I could be scum" and your just all super serious with the response. It's obviously a dumb question.
Tone is not the issue here. You're just abandoning your arguments every few minutes.
If you think whatever in that case made me scum because i've been consistent with it prove me why i've been less consistent with it. Obviously you can't because your case sucked balls to begin with.
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I'm sorry, your case was just bad, it didn't sucked balls at all.
Now quote me where my consistency changed.
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Ruxxar no offense but why are you defending your scumread?
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No internet since my last post cuz #turkey...
Both wagons were town guys pls re-evaluate stuff
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Dunno why aren't we questioning the mason claim. If two guys are masons wouldn't it make sense to simultaneously claim in the thread cuz they can coordinate it? That would add a shit ton of value to the claim. Now it looks like Damdred wasn't happy with geript's plan in the mafia qt..
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Tomorrow's lynch should be TW, his vote is by far the worst.
This is all he had to say about VA:
On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote:
lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited
At the same time he's scumreading geript, stating his case on me is contradicting itself:
On July 15 2017 03:23 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx: On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.
Anyway thats not the main point:
If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.
On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??
rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point? The real kicker is here: On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here. ***BIG POINT READ THIS***Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
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I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it? Good point. On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this: You have three options: 1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally. 2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times. 3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!
Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry. + Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1. I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again. Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread. On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town. Me and who else is town? Geript? Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has? Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me. People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place. On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way? Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it. TLDR 1. Skynx downplays his own post 2. Skynx picks at trivial things 3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn 4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has are the people attacking geript already all over this? cause if not i'm boutta write a sick case. cause point 1 directly contradicts point 4
But that's it, votes geript and pushes nothing more about it while his two townreads lead the vagon. On EoD, he switches me last min and;
On July 15 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
if i'm correct geript, ec, and damdred are masons?
don't like va lynch slightly more than skynx lynch
On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx
This is just a typical scum move when both wagons are town. His two page filter is shit in terms of opinion regarding me and VA. Can't stay on geript cuz he claimed so makes a pointless vote on losing wagon, trying to present it like it was saving a town.
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lol I just remembered all that jazz about "geript is my boy, never lynching him" with no reason from Damdy. I guess I was just wrong.
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On July 15 2017 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia?
They are both mafia.
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On July 15 2017 23:09 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:06 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia? They are both mafia. Any thoughts for third person?
For my part, I buy tina's raging for now.
Votes on VA are just so easy to justify. He just fucked up as town. So it's kinda pointless to analyse by logic behind votes.
I'll post a more decent list later today when i wrap up my thoughts but rayn, HF, geript, damdy are no lynch category.
Rels/sl is null as ever and tina is a soft town.
ruxxar tw are my top two scumreads.
You and Koshi are a mystery right now so I'll be reading you two for a while now.
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On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
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Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.
Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.
Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.
I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.
I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.
that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now. So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not? Why should I believe it? I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look.
Why you voted VA then???
On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va.
This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this:
On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean.
Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum.
You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA.
Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans?
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On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:
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Why should I believe it?
I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see.
I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.
Did you scumread me or not?
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On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:
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I like this question a lot.
Forced me to think real hard.
You get extra town credit for that.
To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive.
So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy.
Please do it today, in case you die.
On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va.
Votes for VA, townreads me.
Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it
+ Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.
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On July 16 2017 00:33 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:
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I like this question a lot.
Forced me to think real hard.
You get extra town credit for that.
To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive.
So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? I don't completely remember if I scum read you or not, definitely a lean. Less than VA given my vote lol. You definitely seemed a lot more scummy to me after the results of the flip at first due to the vote distribution. I was re evaluating things and came to this last night: Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Why do you say this part: Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.
You're the only one on VA wagon with legitimate beef on me thats why.
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On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:
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I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play.
Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them.
Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game.
I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline?
All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time
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On July 16 2017 00:52 emperorchampion wrote:
You could probably even turn it: why would scum ec not go for the person that he thought was more scummy if they're both town?
Point is, voting VA is easy. But if you vote VA, what do you have on the counter wagon and does that make you scummy?
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In that regard, Rels and sicklucker have absolutely no thoughts on me. But thats kind of expected from them.
That leaves Koshi.
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On July 16 2017 02:05 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 01:58 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:52 emperorchampion wrote:
You could probably even turn it: why would scum ec not go for the person that he thought was more scummy if they're both town? Point is, voting VA is easy. But if you vote VA, what do you have on the counter wagon and does that make you scummy? So at the end of this, what are your reasons for thinking I'm scum?
Lets take a case of town!emp thought VA could be town, skynx has been scummy and didn't improve so he should point that out to the game, switch to skynx and lynch him instead.
Ofc that didn't happen, if you swapped on me you knew I'd flip town and you'd have a hard time clearing yourself after the mislynch. You'd have to come up with solid reasons to justify your switch to be safe tomorrow, or you could just stay on VA who has been objectively scummy and your TMI townread on him from earlier would go unnoticed. You pushing me for rest of the day could be many reasons i dunno, setting me up for a D2 lynch could be one of them.
Tbh, the VA townread TMI+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
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On July 16 2017 02:13 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 02:00 Skynx wrote:
In that regard, Rels and sicklucker have absolutely no thoughts on me. But thats kind of expected from them.
That leaves Koshi. Leaves koshi how?
HF and rayn are town.
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I promissed a list so there we go
Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdred
rayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday.
This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far.
geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo)
Town: rsoultinVivax
I bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell)
Null: Rels, sicklucker
Unreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now.
Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperor
They have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up.
Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this.
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On July 16 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:I'm here.
Who's your scumteam now that i'm cleared?
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On July 16 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 03:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 03:26 Skynx wrote:
Where is everyone? I'm here. Who's your scumteam now that i'm cleared? Who says you're cleared?
On July 15 2017 23:27 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:21 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:09 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:06 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia? They are both mafia. Any thoughts for third person? For my part, I buy tina's raging for now. Votes on VA are just so easy to justify. He just fucked up as town. So it's kinda pointless to analyse by logic behind votes. I'll post a more decent list later today when i wrap up my thoughts but rayn, HF, geript, damdy are no lynch category. Rels/sl is null as ever and tina is a soft town. ruxxar tw are my top two scumreads. You and Koshi are a mystery right now so I'll be reading you two for a while now. I like your reasoning about the vote. I like this post in general. I think I was wrong about you tbh. I'm moving you to town lean.
Cleared was an overstatement my bad
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You really didnt have to claim lol
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HF you do that fakeclaiming town copcheck sometimes when you're bored is this one of them? XD
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Cop and mason can exist at the same time imo, not ready to unclear damdy and geript altho they have been real bad.
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On July 16 2017 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
No? I hard claims not blue so of course I'm blue
I was only kidding anyway, you always tell the truth.
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Ahwell, game is kinda boring now. I might not be too around next 24h.
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On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:[quote] Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline.
They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps...
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HF play is fine, Ruxxar outed himself even more refusing to believe Rels redcheck.
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On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:
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Why you voted VA then???
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This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this:
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Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean.
Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum.
You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA.
Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.
Shit you're right, it even comes after this:
On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit
EC is town.
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On July 17 2017 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
......
Oi oi, shattap mr double agent
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Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar?
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On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:
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I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.
Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit EC is town. on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend".
I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort.
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On July 17 2017 06:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:24 Skynx wrote:
Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar? Let's lynch TW.
Park the bus.
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Why is sl mafia Koshi? Gimme one of them senpai reads.
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On July 17 2017 06:53 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:
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I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.
Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit EC is town. what? how do you come to that conclusion after that post? (sick post btw. just based on that rels could be town)
On July 17 2017 06:29 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit EC is town. on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend". I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort.
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On July 17 2017 06:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:36 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 06:24 Skynx wrote:
Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar? Let's lynch TW. Park the bus. I don't understand.
Which teammate would you like to bus first?
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On July 17 2017 01:35 Koshi wrote:
Page 75. Don't think Ruxx is mafia.
Don't think EC is mafia.
Don't think HF is mafia.
Don't think rsoultin is mafia now lol.
Don't know about SL
Really don't think mafia geript and Damdred just go claim masons. Dumbest thing ever... So there is max 1 mafia and 1 retard.
Brings me to TW/Skynx and Rels.
I think that is all. 17 more pages.
I don't mind HF's reasons for voting you. Your read progression doesn't look natural to me. These come out of nowhere.
How can you townread Ruxxar? How can you now townread tina since she has not posted anything ai??
You townread EC here, then scumread based on sl association + my stuff on him then back to townreading him + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 02:57 Koshi wrote:
EC is fine. I don't think he is mafia. On July 17 2017 03:47 Koshi wrote:
TW/Rels/EC/sicklucker
Pretty happy with it.
Your sicklucker read is also weak as fuck and you should know that.
You don't believe the mason claim first but they crumbed it at the start and many people pointed it out.
Lots of inconsistencies here Koshi.
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Can we go on with the confirmed mafia in Ruxxar please?
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I'm going out now, not gona be around EoD.
Lynching any of Koshi/TW/Rux is fine, im staying on rux just in case you guys wanna switch later on.
If anyone gets lynched i will be very upset tomorrow. Happy hunting.
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I dunno why people try to paint me mafia for "throwing away" my vote when they themselves scumread Ruxxar since the beginning of this game smh
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Bloody hell Koshi and HF how can you scumread eachother while having same sr on TW/SL??
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I've fully read everything posted when i was away.
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I don't think we're in a bad spot. Town just needs to stay together.
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Two lynches until now I don't think could have been prevented, they were scummy.
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HF has a lot of influence over everything this game but I won't doubt his townness for now. I like his stuff on sicklucker much less on Rels.
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On July 19 2017 04:35 emperorchampion wrote:
Mmm I feel a tad bad about rux, but yeah it's ok. How comfirmed are the masons to you?
Don't think we can do much about it until we see other claims or if they don't die.
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Damdred's first thing coming into the game (not long after the game started) was buddying geript without presenting any reason. If they are mafia they literally decided their entire gameplan in 2 hours.
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SL has done 0 town things so far, stats provided by OptaJoe.
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On July 19 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:I'd put the mafia at Koshi, emc, one of Rels or Skynx atm. TW has really improved his posting shape wise and his reads align with mine more or less (with exception of emc), but I'm afraid of TMI in his case and that he's trying to look shiny. For example I didn't like Ruxxars posting much during D1 and I'm not sure what made him townread him. His read came down to this: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reasonand since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this I think this isn't a strong reason to have at the time, at least an explanation on what he would expect mafia to do instead would be appreciated. Besides the TMI thing he gives off good vibes so not lynching him tomorrow. Koshi for his minion entry followed up by a very funless unkoshiesque D1. Emc had a semi helpful entrance. Skynx case on rayn looked slightly over the top to me at the time. I'm kind of slightly caught up on both ends of the game but the middle is lacking atm and most player filters as well, so I'm just going to post un caught up and out of my ass for a while since I really have no connection to this game yet.
Can you read more than 20% of the game?
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Wait what, HF is not scumreading TW?
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Then why is Koshi so mad lol? My reading comprehension might be damaged.
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Rels got slightly townier, vivi scummier, sl pretty scum other than that my list still stands in case i die.
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On July 19 2017 07:25 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 22:31 Skynx wrote:Tomorrow's lynch should be TW, his vote is by far the worst. This is all he had to say about VA: On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote:
lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited At the same time he's scumreading geript, stating his case on me is contradicting itself: On July 15 2017 03:23 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx: On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.
Anyway thats not the main point:
If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.
On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??
rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point? The real kicker is here: On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here. ***BIG POINT READ THIS***Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
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I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it? Good point. On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this: You have three options: 1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally. 2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times. 3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!
Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry. + Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1. I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again. Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread. On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town. Me and who else is town? Geript? Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has? Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me. People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place. On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way? Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it. TLDR 1. Skynx downplays his own post 2. Skynx picks at trivial things 3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn 4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has are the people attacking geript already all over this? cause if not i'm boutta write a sick case. cause point 1 directly contradicts point 4 But that's it, votes geript and pushes nothing more about it while his two townreads lead the vagon. On EoD, he switches me last min and; On July 15 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
if i'm correct geript, ec, and damdred are masons?
don't like va lynch slightly more than skynx lynch On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx This is just a typical scum move when both wagons are town. His two page filter is shit in terms of opinion regarding me and VA. Can't stay on geript cuz he claimed so makes a pointless vote on losing wagon, trying to present it like it was saving a town. Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:06 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia? They are both mafia. This guy wanted both them dead but didnt care enough to be here at deadline incase he had a chance to lynch one. Yes ruxxar was lynched completely because of his afk vote but he didnt know that could happen. I think he didnt care because both of them are town. The pieces are starting to come together
I was busy getting laid on EoD. I cared so much about lynching mafia but nothing i could do.
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One of TW/sl is going today, I'll vote with whomever Damdy and HF prefer.
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On July 19 2017 22:47 sicklucker wrote:
5 towns voted him 4 are confirmed towns. everyone that I think could potentially still be mafia voted to save him. He wants to kill me who is town. he wants to kill tumble who is probably town.
If you dont think tumbleweeds mafia that means all mafia voted to save skynx
All mafia doesn't include me apparently, thx for confirming yourself.
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Can we not lynch sl instead?
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On July 19 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote:
emperorchampion is without a doubt town
there is nothing in this game that can change my mind, he was the only one here at night time trying to dive filters and point things out when nobody else was doing anything else
nothing can sway me
That was a pretty easy sway if you ask me.
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Sure, nice vote sl. Not sure if you even sr Vivax.
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What do you think about his recent mafia game? Presidental and previous game he just didnt really care about lynching mafia, he was just giving random thoughts all game.
Also we don't talk about 72h, that game never happened.
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sicklucker should be the lynch today as his scumhunting this game is a total farce.
On July 13 2017 21:17 sicklucker wrote:
I voted ruxxar because he had the best chance to be scum and Im not sure if Ill have much time or when even the deadline is. I took your advice TAKE THE BANANA
We should most of the time just straightup ignore his D1 but here he admits a sheepvote on Ruxxar without having much clue about anyone else.
On July 14 2017 04:35 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 22:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 21:37 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 21:33 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:26 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi what's your opinion on what i said about ruxxar? I don't know what ruxxar is doing this game. So basically I agree with the idea behind your case. He made a couple extremely dumb observations this game. I don't understand what he is doing as I don't see him solving the game while playing. Last game he scumread me while I had a 10 page filter and correctly read him while nobody else did, this game he very quickly townread both townleaders for scumhunting... Filterlenght and sheer enthusiasm holds me back but he is on the watch list. Koshi, you are way too serious this game. You look nothing like your last game. Your tone is completely different. Very somber and low energy. protip: Different does not equal mafia. Why am I somber? 1) your opening post basically declares "I'm going to play this game solo" Which sets up the expectation of a low interactivity game from you. Having that excuse in your back to take pressure of your non-interactivity is great from a mafia agenda point of view. 2) You are somber by the fact that you don't have the jesty/non-chalant way of talking as you did last game. Example of posts you made as town that represent such a tone: On June 14 2017 16:52 Koshi wrote:
Hmm I am going to call fefe and TW town.
TW for thinking fefe is hilariously suspicious and fefe for believing that.
2 townreads.
1 more than rayn.
ggwp. On June 14 2017 16:49 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 16:46 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 13:40 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
This deadline is nice for me.
##vote koshi :/ This emoticon is made by mafia over town 9/10 times. It is proven. I concede :/ See. Now you are mafia 81/100 times, 9/100 times mafia pretending to be town, 9/100 times town pretending to be mafia, and only 1% chance to be town being town. Can't disagree with math. Especially my math. Koshi had this planned before the game even started he talked about it in the obs qt and post game , last game.... Still mafia. man me and ruxxar came to every same conclusion last game right or wrong. Now everyone I think is mafia he thinks is town and vice versa. kill with fire
Later on a reverse mind meld/meta comes along the ONLY real reason of why he's scumreading Ruxxar, some other stuff in same page but nothing that can be used as an argument.
On July 16 2017 05:16 sicklucker wrote:
noted that ec cant even remember his own reads. he calls me town at last deadline then less then 24 hours later im "forgotten" and scum
Another lazy reason to scumread someone. He just looks tryhard with this, emp felt genuine at the time even tho i was scumreading him aswell.
On July 18 2017 04:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 04:28 Vivax wrote:
I'm just tempted to sheep dead rayn onto emc along with geript for now since I still miss more than half of the game. Anyway, off to delve while I vote emc. was ryan that sure emc was mafia? Damn that would be 3 strong towns
On July 18 2017 04:32 sicklucker wrote:hum ryan was also pretty high on koshi being mafia and ruxxar being town
Trying to solidify emperor being mafia with rayn sr on him which was based on wrong reasons:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:
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I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play.
Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them.
Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game.
I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then EC is mafia.
Rayn thought that was right which I thought the same but those were post EoD, significantly harming the value of my case. I think sl says this before Rels points out my mistake but i cba looking, he's just trying too hard to create reasons here imo.
On July 18 2017 04:47 sicklucker wrote:
I just dont think koshi fought hard enough to be town here. thats all im saying
Koshi main wagon. He has no opinion.
On July 18 2017 04:19 sicklucker wrote:
Ruxxars still my first choice his game is so different. wild yes rels but not the samr
Him trying to support emperor scumread and soft sr on Koshi curiously comes after this. If Ruxxar his first choice, why try to create a wagon on someone else? When Koshi is main wagon why not try to propose a Ruxxar lynch? His vote is on Rels of all people at this point, after claim was rescinded. He has 1 main sr, two other sr's but votes no one. He just can't pick sides at this point.
22:20, there are 5 votes on emp. 5 fucking votes. He, as town, have options here. He can jump emperor train, why not he has reasons to support it right? He can propose a ruxxar lynch, its his main sr.
22:35 he votes Tumblewood... like wtf?
On July 18 2017 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
No I kind of like his tw push. its kind of townie hes going after him over ec
this to support it... I don't even know who is he talking about here, "He" is Koshi? Koshi bussing TW makes more sense than bussing EC? Either way how does that make TW scum????? Like literally, nothing recent on Tumble AND he sheeps his sr onto him. He posts a list of townies, claiming everyone else lynchable, like very under the table, pushes a TW sr...
On July 18 2017 05:45 sicklucker wrote:
LETS KILL RUXXARRRRR 0.o
Then back on Ruxxar. Easiest mislynch ever. This is not a towny vote pattern guys.
On July 18 2017 05:56 sicklucker wrote:
tumble is reacting kind of good here. plz killz ruxxars with me
On July 18 2017 07:00 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
the one where sl is up for voting koshi but then jumps to sheep to koshi's target but then as soon as that wagon looks like it's set he instant derails it to ruxxar? so as mafia why do I switch off tumble who I already switched to over ruxxar?I thought ruxxar was mafia all game man he was my number 1 target I said so earlier your overthinking this man. game throwflare. I would have voted ruxxar over anyone
There we go instantly brings up the fact that Ruxxar was his n1 target. Bolded is a classic mafia agenda, just swaying from the fact that he has no basis at all voting for tumble to begin with.
On July 18 2017 09:37 sicklucker wrote:
i always wanted to lynch ruxxar... . It didnt become an option untill the very end and I was very happy to jump on it. Me townreading tumbleweed after had nothing to do with my vote change. your so dense
I can go on with his bs on me but I'm gona cap it off with this.
No options he says. What was his options?
Emp wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either.
Koshi wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either.
In what case you do all this as town? He doesn't want to lynch his scumreads but doesn't case his main scumread either but defends himself like this was his plan all along. Just doesn't exist as town. Lynch please, I 110% guarantee you he will flip scum.
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On July 18 2017 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
tw/sl/ec
On July 18 2017 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
sl is absolutely confirmed mafia now
On July 18 2017 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
Never ever lynch anyone other than koshi tomorrow. Don't let rels tell you otherwise. There is no way he has this read list after that deadline in any town koshi game in existence.
On July 18 2017 17:34 Holyflare wrote:
Skynx/rels are essentially the mafia team I have. Anyone else is up in the air.
Can you fucking make up your mind???
Why Vivax over all these? He's essentially a coinflip.
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Rels, emperor, Koshi I urge you guys to vote commonly before we go lylo.
Damdred wake the fuck up.
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Yeah, I am absolutely not lynching anyone else until sicklucker is gone. He is just mafia.
TW is next in line in terms of my scumread, previous reasons in my filter still stand but he doesn't outweigh sl in terms of chanses of flipping mafia.
Vivax is afk, 4 posts yeah nothing townie yeah but nothing scummy either. When we have reasons to scumread others, lynching someone else because we have no reason to townread him is just plain stupid, this is a coinflip DO NOT LYNCH VIVAX TODAY.
Koshi I'm dropping my scumread for now, as long as he lynches scum. He showed signs of being reasonable.
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On July 21 2017 00:44 Holyflare wrote:How can you use the quote that SL scum reads EC because of rayn as mafia agenda but then not do the same for vivax?
Nice copy paste of my rayn case.
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I don't know what you mean. When i look at Vivax i see someone who doesn't want to play.
sl never at any point cared who gets lynched.
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On July 21 2017 00:48 Holyflare wrote:
I'm being serious. Why does this not apply to vivax when two of his posts is something you scum read another player for and his other post is trash giving his "scum reads" but focuses on TW, his town read (whilst saying it's not a proper town read but it).
Why is vivax a coin flip?
What is that something?
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On July 21 2017 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
This is you:
Vivax - does something you scum read SL for - coin flip
SL - does something you coin flip read vivax for
If Vivax can be a coin flip then there's a chance he's town to you. This means that townies are capable of doing the same thing that you're saying SL is scum for. The rest of your post is just saying he's scum for pushing his ruxxar lynch at deadline. Like last game, SL pushed a lynch and I called it scummy but SL pushing a lynch isn't usual for him and the one time he's done it he's been town.
I don't care what he does as town. What he did (or didn't do) is scummy in the general universe of mafia play imo, thats what I'm gona go along with.
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On July 21 2017 01:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2017 00:52 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2017 00:48 Holyflare wrote:
I'm being serious. Why does this not apply to vivax when two of his posts is something you scum read another player for and his other post is trash giving his "scum reads" but focuses on TW, his town read (whilst saying it's not a proper town read but it).
Why is vivax a coin flip? What is that something? You scum read sl for pushing EC with your case. You don't scum read Vivax for pushing EC with your case despite that being 50% of his posts. Now you're telling me you are going to ignore SL's general town play just because for other people in the world of mafia it applies to them. Ok skynx.
If sl did just that on its own he'd be pretty coinflip too. Fortunately he did other scummy shit so its easier to declare him scum.
You just pointed out that worked wonders for you in previous game so keep rolling bro.
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On July 21 2017 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
I have no idea what you're saying. Last game I scum read SL for pushing a wagon based on lazy shit that he didn't read. Turns out he was town. Now you're doing the same but this time he actually scum reads Ruxxar.
The majority of people in this game were in the last game so I don't think your case is really going to convince anyone otherwise.
I don't know what you did last game. What i understand is you applies something logical that made sl scum. He flipped town. Guess what you played mafia, congrats.
That doesnt make him town.
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On July 21 2017 01:26 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, at least 2-3 people have displayed that they don't agree with your case. We need to vote together today to eliminate any shenanigans at deadline with bull shit like last one. You should vote vivax because it's in town's best interest because:
A) He's extremely likely to flip mafia even if you say he's a coin flip.
B) Getting rid of a coin flip now is 100000x better than having to decide at lylo.
C) You are not getting traction on your SL case.
You have voted off wagon for basically every cycle. This is increasingly likely you're mafia because you don't want to be involved in absolutely any of the main wagons this game. Here you are again making up some case that enables you to be off wagon. You won't even vote with the wagon because you're likely mafia trying to avoid suspicion/avoid lynching your team mates.
Today is the day that you play with the town Skynx. We can only vote Vivax today.
B is a fair point.
I was away EoD's cuz of no internet and going out. You keep trying to push that idea with sicklucker I'm sure that will get you a lot of traction too.
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On July 21 2017 02:06 Holyflare wrote:
Nothing to do with being away at EoD. Whenever the wagon is 3-4 you come in with a new case/vote and leave your vote afk on that new wagon while nobody joins you. Yes, yesterday people did but that's what happens when you leave rogue votes like that.
See geript d1.
See Ruxxar yesterday.
geript I would've switched if i was there at claim. When I voted rayn, emp and some others were sr'ing him already.
That was the point of my vote yesterday, to provide a counter wagon option in case ppl wanna switch. Ruxxar wasn't a bad lynch.
Its not like I'm trying someone completely irrelevant on EoD's. Like that me 'trying to divert town from the wagon' thing doesn't exist.
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On July 21 2017 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
Which leads me to another thing. Why is SL scum for pushing the wagon you yourself wanted to lynch? Doesn't really add up for me at all.
He doesn't care Ruxxar was town, he knows it already cmon HF...
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Anyway, you're right with the fact that town should stay together so whatever.
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Did you guys read like just 1 sentence of the case or what?
That doesn't make him scum on its own. Why didn't he vote emp or Koshi, why he voted TW and then why he ended up on Rux. That makes him scum.
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On July 21 2017 02:40 Damdred wrote:
I just got out of surgery, can anyone recap what has happened for me so I can just focus on the main wagons today?
Just vote Vivax.
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That scene prolly makes my top3, puts a smile on my face every time.
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On July 21 2017 05:41 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2017 00:01 Skynx wrote:sicklucker should be the lynch today as his scumhunting this game is a total farce. On July 13 2017 21:17 sicklucker wrote:
I voted ruxxar because he had the best chance to be scum and Im not sure if Ill have much time or when even the deadline is. I took your advice TAKE THE BANANA We should most of the time just straightup ignore his D1 but here he admits a sheepvote on Ruxxar without having much clue about anyone else. On July 14 2017 04:35 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 22:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 21:37 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 21:33 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:26 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi what's your opinion on what i said about ruxxar? I don't know what ruxxar is doing this game. So basically I agree with the idea behind your case. He made a couple extremely dumb observations this game. I don't understand what he is doing as I don't see him solving the game while playing. Last game he scumread me while I had a 10 page filter and correctly read him while nobody else did, this game he very quickly townread both townleaders for scumhunting... Filterlenght and sheer enthusiasm holds me back but he is on the watch list. Koshi, you are way too serious this game. You look nothing like your last game. Your tone is completely different. Very somber and low energy. protip: Different does not equal mafia. Why am I somber? 1) your opening post basically declares "I'm going to play this game solo" Which sets up the expectation of a low interactivity game from you. Having that excuse in your back to take pressure of your non-interactivity is great from a mafia agenda point of view. 2) You are somber by the fact that you don't have the jesty/non-chalant way of talking as you did last game. Example of posts you made as town that represent such a tone: On June 14 2017 16:52 Koshi wrote:
Hmm I am going to call fefe and TW town.
TW for thinking fefe is hilariously suspicious and fefe for believing that.
2 townreads.
1 more than rayn.
ggwp. On June 14 2017 16:49 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 16:46 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 13:40 Xatalos wrote:
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:/ This emoticon is made by mafia over town 9/10 times. It is proven. I concede :/ See. Now you are mafia 81/100 times, 9/100 times mafia pretending to be town, 9/100 times town pretending to be mafia, and only 1% chance to be town being town. Can't disagree with math. Especially my math. Koshi had this planned before the game even started he talked about it in the obs qt and post game , last game.... Still mafia. man me and ruxxar came to every same conclusion last game right or wrong. Now everyone I think is mafia he thinks is town and vice versa. kill with fire Later on a reverse mind meld/meta comes along the ONLY real reason of why he's scumreading Ruxxar, some other stuff in same page but nothing that can be used as an argument. On July 16 2017 05:16 sicklucker wrote:
noted that ec cant even remember his own reads. he calls me town at last deadline then less then 24 hours later im "forgotten" and scum Another lazy reason to scumread someone. He just looks tryhard with this, emp felt genuine at the time even tho i was scumreading him aswell. On July 18 2017 04:29 sicklucker wrote:On July 18 2017 04:28 Vivax wrote:
I'm just tempted to sheep dead rayn onto emc along with geript for now since I still miss more than half of the game. Anyway, off to delve while I vote emc. was ryan that sure emc was mafia? Damn that would be 3 strong towns On July 18 2017 04:32 sicklucker wrote:On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then EC is mafia. hum ryan was also pretty high on koshi being mafia and ruxxar being town Trying to solidify emperor being mafia with rayn sr on him which was based on wrong reasons: + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:
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I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play.
Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them.
Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game.
I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then EC is mafia. Rayn thought that was right which I thought the same but those were post EoD, significantly harming the value of my case. I think sl says this before Rels points out my mistake but i cba looking, he's just trying too hard to create reasons here imo. On July 18 2017 04:47 sicklucker wrote:
I just dont think koshi fought hard enough to be town here. thats all im saying Koshi main wagon. He has no opinion. On July 18 2017 04:19 sicklucker wrote:
Ruxxars still my first choice his game is so different. wild yes rels but not the samr Him trying to support emperor scumread and soft sr on Koshi curiously comes after this. If Ruxxar his first choice, why try to create a wagon on someone else? When Koshi is main wagon why not try to propose a Ruxxar lynch? His vote is on Rels of all people at this point, after claim was rescinded. He has 1 main sr, two other sr's but votes no one. He just can't pick sides at this point. 22:20, there are 5 votes on emp. 5 fucking votes. He, as town, have options here. He can jump emperor train, why not he has reasons to support it right? He can propose a ruxxar lynch, its his main sr. 22:35 he votes Tumblewood... like wtf? On July 18 2017 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
No I kind of like his tw push. its kind of townie hes going after him over ec this to support it... I don't even know who is he talking about here, "He" is Koshi? Koshi bussing TW makes more sense than bussing EC? Either way how does that make TW scum????? Like literally, nothing recent on Tumble AND he sheeps his sr onto him. He posts a list of townies, claiming everyone else lynchable, like very under the table, pushes a TW sr... On July 18 2017 05:45 sicklucker wrote:
LETS KILL RUXXARRRRR 0.o Then back on Ruxxar. Easiest mislynch ever. This is not a towny vote pattern guys. On July 18 2017 05:56 sicklucker wrote:
tumble is reacting kind of good here. plz killz ruxxars with me On July 18 2017 07:00 sicklucker wrote:On July 18 2017 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
the one where sl is up for voting koshi but then jumps to sheep to koshi's target but then as soon as that wagon looks like it's set he instant derails it to ruxxar? so as mafia why do I switch off tumble who I already switched to over ruxxar?I thought ruxxar was mafia all game man he was my number 1 target I said so earlier your overthinking this man. game throwflare. I would have voted ruxxar over anyone There we go instantly brings up the fact that Ruxxar was his n1 target. Bolded is a classic mafia agenda, just swaying from the fact that he has no basis at all voting for tumble to begin with. On July 18 2017 09:37 sicklucker wrote:
i always wanted to lynch ruxxar... . It didnt become an option untill the very end and I was very happy to jump on it. Me townreading tumbleweed after had nothing to do with my vote change. your so dense I can go on with his bs on me but I'm gona cap it off with this. No options he says. What was his options? Emp wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either. Koshi wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either. In what case you do all this as town? He doesn't want to lynch his scumreads but doesn't case his main scumread either but defends himself like this was his plan all along. Just doesn't exist as town. Lynch please, I 110% guarantee you he will flip scum. your posts are so garbage you start by saying I sheeped ruxxar when I said he was most likely to be scum. I said maybe hes not the best lynch but I was very happy to lynch him. just like you just said I never wanted vivax lynch. No he was not my first choice he was just my second after you. Not going on right now I know your scum with vivax zZzzZ
Just when i thought i was falling asleep, they pull me back in.
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On July 21 2017 02:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2017 02:28 Skynx wrote:
Did you guys read like just 1 sentence of the case or what?
That doesn't make him scum on its own. Why didn't he vote emp or Koshi, why he voted TW and then why he ended up on Rux. That makes him scum. I will await his answer on this.
Answer this if you feel like being useful.
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Whaaaaaaat? Chester is dead??????
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Omg he suicided aswell
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##Vote: Koshi
What's everyone doing this weekend then?
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Dont lynch me im not scum
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On July 24 2017 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
my First and quite important train of thought is why was va lynched over skyx if they are both town? The only none fliped person voting skynx is tumbleweed. now I think hes town. So this means 3 mafia voted va over skyx or were off wagon.
Why wouldnt anyone as mafia hammer skynx over va there? Skynx is a much harder person to lynch then va. Va was always getting lynched in this game. Its basically a free lynch for mafia or two lynches for one.
The only conclusion I can think of is he is infact mafia. Lets call this reason 1
Theres way more evidence in the vote count to back this up
[*] VayneAuthority (6) - raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, sicklucker, emperorchampion, Rels, Koshi
[*] Skynx (5) - [green] geript, ruXxar, Damdred, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood [green]
Notice how koshi is also the hammer vote... Yes skynx could have voted himself which is why the vote never seemed close to anyone. But you have to remember he was just afk... scum and town alike can be afk. Luckily scumlord koshi was around to save him.
Lets say skyx is town. that means the last mafia is ec or rels. Again they would have voted skynx over va if there smart... and they were the last votes so the most likely to change as well. Lets call this reason 2
Both points suggest someones mafia but both together is more then a coincidence
Why do you assume TW is green? He was the last vote on deadline switching on me.
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I mean im not gona put much effort into this deadgame, just trying to save you guys a ml.
Just gona say I've been town for 80% of the game and that sl case prolly just fucked me up cuz i was too tryhard or something i dunno i still think its a good case.
I dont think its emp or rels, damdy's dead soon so you two gona have to decide between sl and tw.
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On July 25 2017 03:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. The whole point of him on Ruxxar is that he didn't scumread EC for: On July 13 2017 07:09 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 06:56 ruXxar wrote:
Distracting town with off-topic discussion.
I see you are pulling out the tricks early. What's off topic about scum hunting ? How's your raynometer feeling? Wait, wait wait. Your first sentence was referring to HF context post as if I was accusing HF of off topic discussion. BUT. You second sentence is referring to Rayn as if he was the suspect target. I'm getting conflicting messaging here. On July 13 2017 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you pushing this EC thing further, she literally just answered you by talking about something completely different than what you asked. I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it. Anyway thats not the main point: If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. On July 13 2017 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i never said your case on EC wasn't townie, it was the best post in the thread. But you just threw it in the trash for no reason, and that makes you mafia.
Tell me this:
1) Why cannot, let's say Damdred, sickluckr and VA be mafia, as you are totally fine with geript dying by "poe"?
2) If they can, why are you actually totally fine with geript dying? That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar. On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread?? rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. On geript: On July 13 2017 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:18 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
try to tell why geript If I figure it out, I'll explain then. try something On July 13 2017 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:28 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote:On July 13 2017 07:22 geript wrote:
Hey HF. Find the worst post in the thread up to this point and quote it. On July 13 2017 06:10 rsoultin wrote:
Lexy kicked me out for hosty reasons pffft. Leave me gifts for morning?
♡s a ruxxy pupil want to vomit blood On July 13 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think you're trying a bit too hard for the state of the game but i dont know what it means. trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again Not the post I wanted you to pick up on so I could like you more... this is also a terrible post. On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ On July 13 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also that's the worst reason ever to read holyflare town.
I have a good case on geript, do you? This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". ##Vote: raynpelikoneet meh. Such a good post. It's Skynx' first post and I have no idea if he does good post like that as scum. OK he has done it before as scum. 1 2 3In addition this post looks an awful lot like the one I really liked EON1: Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Summary
Very town: mahg
Townlean: Exo, Calix
Not read at all: darth
Bad but not thoroughly read:Foreman
Nullish cuz neither town nor scum but bad: Rels
Scum: TT, NU
I pushed mahg earlier, his respons I liked. His lists later on I liked. He's not overly spammy. He's the most town imo.
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Calix is quite null actually this was hard to decide. His early game has been bad a he should know better by now after 3 games here that him vs NU just results in them filling filters and nothing else. He needs more thorough read for sure. I'm mostly townreading him on tone which I'm kinda confident after playing with him often in past few months, which i know is bad but its the best i can do atm.
Darth had that conspiracy about his opinion on me as a reason Rels and some others scumread, which doesn't mean anything imo but need to read him later on. I just got the feeling he's not been bad overall.
I don't like Foreman's over-aggressive tone. He didn't get much going against him but why so aggressive then? He most definitely needs a re-read, I think he's been flying under the radar.
Read above for opinions on Rels.
Read cases in filter for opinions on NU and TT.
It looks like this: Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. This second post is from this current game, the first is from his last scum game. I really liked this post from Skynx, I think I even townread him for it at one point, I thought it was very logical and well structured so a lot more likely to come from town. But all in all Skynx can play a very good scum game. A few great posts is not enough to make him town. On the contrary maybe, him having great posts at the beginning then declining starting D2 might indicate he's scum.
Lol what a trip I totally forgot about the last time I rolled scum
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Makes up for the scum advantage last game
GG's, thx for hosting.
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Isn't there a rule like no sexism, religious, rape or holocaust jokes or something like that?
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I'm trying to come up with a way of how we could've avoided the first 2 mislynches, any thoughts?
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On July 13 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote:
Hello my Minions. Your master will be doing a 1 page filter D1. He is planning on making 3 big quality posts and around 15 "fluff" posts but only when he politely is asked a question or feels like barking a question. Good Minions know that the great leader should be followed, and even naughty Minions know to at least sheep the master his list. Evil Minions will be dealt with. Swiftly and without mercy.
Your leader has spoken. Hail to the great leader.
(Generic 3)
Koshi posts gameplans as mafia
##Vote: Koshi
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