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#Vote Koshi | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:15 iamperfection wrote: Koshi could be town too lol good one. | ||
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Just lynch him and be done with it. | ||
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He is playing exactly as his previous mafia games, just a bunch of platitudes with no real commitment either way and if he does he just turns around whenever he feels like it. Taking the town on an endless merry go round. Just look at what he did in his last mafia game. | ||
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On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote: Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi. | ||
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On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote: Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi. Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that. Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. | ||
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On October 21 2016 03:19 Holyflare wrote: I already mentioned he could be mafia, yes. I'd like you to talk about other people though. Covering for your scum buddy I see. | ||
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On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh I forgot about Luna hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. | ||
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Yeah defending obvious mafia tends to change my opinion of players. | ||
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On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote: What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. | ||
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haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. | ||
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On October 21 2016 04:49 beentheredonethat wrote: No lol Your entitled to your opinion. | ||
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On October 21 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote: Do you have any opinions on HF's read on me? I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will. I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days. I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood. Also I'm off to bed nn. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Nah lunatic is way more jat this game. (think it was him anyway) He's the fun sucker lol, watch out so I don't suck you, best post so far! Good night. | ||
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On October 21 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote: Currently still on p 58. Progress is slow. So Koshi have you decided to become "productive"? I'd have to see you catch a scum to believe you. | ||
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On October 21 2016 21:20 Tictock wrote: No we don't. Best guess (imo) is 2 teams of 3, but could maybe be like 4 scum, 2 "neutral" (creeps?) or something. Given 24 players I think ~6 scum is reasonable. It's obvious the scum team is 5 players. One for each position in a dota team. | ||
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On October 21 2016 21:07 Tictock wrote: Given recent games... they could all actually be town. For some reason town has been slacking on this site lately and handing mafia easy wins. Still gotta deal with them somehow though which is pretty shitty if they do turn out to be town. I feel pretty good about Hama's posts though, and possibly Tube's as well. You can still read low volume people imo, though it prob requires more effort than it's worth sometimes. Besides not posting much is there anything that actually strikes you as scummy about them? I kinda hate to admit that I kinda read GB as town as well, it's mostly meta though so pretty shit. Town lost the palmar game because I kid you not, at least 5-10 ppl were afk town the entire game. But they posted so they didn't get modkilled so we had to lynch waste kps on all of them. | ||
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On October 21 2016 22:39 Koshi wrote: Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case. ##unvote ##vote Hopeless1der p60 atm HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you. You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons. It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia. | ||
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On October 21 2016 23:00 Hopeless1der wrote: Which mafia is Koshi trying to save in your scenario? No the mafia are trying to divert attention from him. He is also playing very bad so he is making it to obvious. | ||
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On October 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote: Reasons: You are tunneling town and limiting yourself doing that. While as town you are normally all over the place and actively trying to push the game forward. I think except for HF you haven't made a single other observation in the game. I know I am town. I don't know what you are doing. And the main reason why I voted Hopeless over you is because I liked the case Acrofoles made. If you are town you better take a step back and try to solve the game ignoring Koshi. I don't know what exactly you meant with that last paragraph you wrote but that shit is bad for you. Then why do BT have the same read? Why would I ever change target from what I consider an easy mafia? That's like saying please disregard the objective of the game because I want to live a little bit longer. As I said if you somehow survive day 1, I won't let you go unless you directly kill a mafia. | ||
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On October 21 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote: This is actually a blatant lie. So annoying. Will lunatic correct this lie? He knows I played super active in the Palmar Themed Game. You are correct but I interpret it a different way. I think you went lurker because you got called on a meta read and had realized your mistake. A paraphrase of this is your "I think I forgot how to play town" post. You also had to devise a battle plan with your culprits how to refute the day one lynch. | ||
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On October 21 2016 23:50 Koshi wrote: Cool story but I didn't do any of that. Btdt told a blatant lie and you didnt correct him while you knew it was a lie. That's pushing scum agenda or being really really bad. No I simply do not agree with you, that's your version. | ||
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It could be but it is possible he was just referencing himself as either alignment either way I wanted him to respond not you. | ||
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On October 22 2016 17:44 Holyflare wrote: No? He's posted reads and tried to abuse pm timers and got annoyed with wave for hiding it and called him out. I think he should be modkilled for it because it makes him basically town and was heavily against the spirit of the game and he should know that but it's town nonetheless. You're going to have to kill him now acro. In my experience only mafia wants to modkill townies. Just saying. | ||
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On October 22 2016 17:57 Holyflare wrote: I'm also going to call btdt mafia just for the wtf stance at deadline. Calls my case good but summarises it wrong, has called koshi mafia ALLLLLLL game and koshi is alternative wagon, joins tt wagon but then makes a case on a guy that isn't particularly scummy and didn't want to kill koshi. I'm very surprised infact hopeless is calling me out but not btdt for this. I don't really read it like that at all, he was desperately trying to lynch Koshi but somehow out of the blue we got another primary lynch target. I guess he just accepted the fact that he wasn't going to get Koshi and went with the majority decision. To me this looks like a desperate attempt by mafia to save their companion Koshi. | ||
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On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote: Scummy: Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it) Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing) ExO_ (why) Kurumi Vivax Koshi GlowingBear WaveofShadow Null: Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems) Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon) Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy) Hamazura (need more) Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says) ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy) Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave) Tubesock (zzzz?) HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. | ||
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On October 22 2016 12:12 Hopeless1der wrote: Look, I asked because I 100% believed this game would accomodate mid-phase abilities. There was already proof of host error re: my being listed twice in the lynch list. I now have damn near confirmation that there is no ability to affect the game outside of the resolution periods. Thats shitty for the hosts, but too goddamn bad, they shouldn't have said anything and stuck to their guns. It's incredibly easy for the hosts to say "whoops we fucked up" in a closed setup. But they didnt do that. I dont mean to be a dick to the hosts, I fully appreciate what you're doing to host this game for us...but the handling of my line of questioning is really subpar imo. It confirms that WoS either lied, or that the hosts fucked up. And I have no way to prove one way or the other, even if WoS is scum. I'm still catching up but I can confirm I have an ability that can be used at anytime. But mechanics discussion don't really catch scum this early. | ||
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On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote: My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff. Please elaborate on these reads a bit, what makes you think that Koshi is town etc? | ||
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On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote: I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason. You're all talk and no substance. Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose. | ||
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On October 22 2016 19:13 Holyflare wrote: I didn't save koshi at all. I made a case on a compelling target, I gave him a chance to save himself multiple times and said that koshi would be the backup wagon. He didn't wrote anything compelling (he didn't even say he had a cop check.....) so I didn't switch. I find it hilarious that you're suspicious of me for meta but then say it's suspicious i want to be the leader. All I do in this game is post what i think and make cases, i haven't even really been at the forefront of it and if anything I'm more lazy/subdued than normal. I don't like your attitude, it's like being a super power and then renouncing any responsibility. You single handedly got someone lynched day one and than your like "I haven't even really been at the forefront". Your playing exactly like you did in the palmar/kosh/hf mafia game in my opinion. Lynching someone for not writing anything compelling is not a good enough excuse to lynch them. That doesn't necessarily make them town or mafia. I suppose you think Koshies defense of "I*M IMPORTANT PLAYER; PLX SAVE ME FOR MY ABILITIES" is a better defense? That just screams mafia trying to live another day. | ||
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On October 22 2016 19:16 Holyflare wrote: I am also extremely extremely confused how these two bolded things go together. A) you haven't even read the deadline because you haven't got a single clue how ticktock got lynched yet you're saying I'm scummy for not lynching koshi How on earth would you know these things without reading deadline and if you did read deadline you're asking pointless questions for the sake of it. B) you call me potentially TOWN for being wrong Wtf is it am I mafia for being wrong or town for being wrong?? I usually start reading from the most recent and working myself backwards, since sometimes you miss people that might otherwise have been online once you finish reading, like you might have logged off when I finished reading 15 pages. But I just wanted you to articulate it in your own words what occurred. I'm saying I think you look like a mafia, but it is possible that you are not a mafia. I mean how often is the day 1 lynch ever going to hit a mafia? | ||
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On October 22 2016 19:21 Holyflare wrote: No, I just don't care that I mislynched him really. I made a good case and was wrong, it happens a lot. I did give him outs though because I had the potential to be wrong and people often soew more at deadline. He didn't give me a reason to switfh off him and that's a highly compelling reason to stay. Then I might ask, what made the TickTock lynch better than the Koshi lynch? Or in fact just a random lurker like Vivax? | ||
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On October 22 2016 19:24 Acrofales wrote: I still don't understand how the TT lynch happened. Especially because it seems like iamp (prob town) and DI (prob town) were on it early and pushing it without a critical thought in their mind. Like... when I left the Vivax train was slowly gathering steam. He came in, made 2 shitty posts, one of which about how scummy TT looked, and fucked off again, and presto, everybody was aboard the TT train. Like, really bizarre. Going shopping. Will read more later It's called the HF effect. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote: why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me? I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi. It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:32 beentheredonethat wrote: Why exactly do you scumread HF? And don't say it's in your filter. TL:DR meta read combined with miss lynch and not taking responsibility. | ||
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See this is such anti town behavior, why not? | ||
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GOD DAMMIT, it's true it does. GG NO RE :D | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:36 beentheredonethat wrote: Okay,im not buying that but okay. Who else is scum? I'm kinda still trying to figure out Koshi/HF. But I don't like Vivax. Ptm is probably town. I have a few more town reads but I'll have to look at the player list. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote: GOD DAMMIT, it's true it does. GG NO RE :D So pretty please with sugar on top, can you please tell me? Honestly I don't think it's that much to ask for. | ||
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If you have a double lynch and activate it I don't think anyone will vote for you. At the moment I'd rather see Art burn because of HF said he was mafia 100%. By using your ability you would exonerate yourself, at least for a little while. | ||
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The mafia town circle is strong in this one. | ||
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On October 24 2016 23:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I have asked this of you before, but why? The lynch on Koshi day one should have been successful, he played awful and was way to engaged for a regular townie. His tone and meta is/was way to easy to read. Just look at him now, using game mechanics to scare you into not lynching him. The mafia obviously saved him by going for HF:s lynch instead day 1. Art is purely based on HF, you were a 100% lock scum read. I have no reason why I shouldn't trust HF:s read. | ||
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I also see that the meta of TL hasn't changed: Amount of posts => Town. So Koshi just spams about mechanics and suddenly everyone thinks he is town when in fact he should be dead by now. This is brilliant. This game also demonstrates how bad it is to have more than 2 scum reads at any given time because there simply isn't enough emotional capital to go after all of them. Especially in a large game like this, just focus on a few people at a time. I thought I would be dead by now but mafia is keeping me alive, I must be good to have around as everyones 3d scum read. I think it would be smarter to go after the players who actually voted for a townie in the first lynch. | ||
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KOSHI I KNEW IT YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTAD :D | ||
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@Billy haha your anguish was so amusing. | ||
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How did you choose the roles for the mafia team? | ||
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On November 06 2016 06:26 Koshi wrote: damn that it eventually was so close. hurts  Your harcore bussing was pretty cool though. | ||
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@Ritoky nice save man, gg! | ||
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On November 06 2016 06:58 Holyflare wrote: because the game isn't solvable by team composition mechanics and shouldn't be  I knew you would say that! | ||
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