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On October 23 2016 04:36 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:34 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:32 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote: why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me? I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi. It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first. Why exactly do you scumread HF? And don't say it's in your filter. TL:DR meta read combined with miss lynch and not taking responsibility. Okay,im not buying that but okay. Who else is scum?
I'm kinda still trying to figure out Koshi/HF. But I don't like Vivax.
Ptm is probably town. I have a few more town reads but I'll have to look at the player list.
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Can you explain to me how I didn't take responsibility for the lynch? I told you I did but I gave him lots of outs and he didn't post anything worthy of me not voting him.
It's just the way mafia goes.
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On October 23 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:38 Holyflare wrote:On October 23 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote: why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me? I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi. It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first. ok well I just won't tell you then See this is such anti town behavior, why not? because it annoys you GOD DAMMIT, it's true it does. GG NO RE :D
So pretty please with sugar on top, can you please tell me?
Honestly I don't think it's that much to ask for.
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On October 23 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 04:26 ritoky wrote: btdt you probably don't want to hear this from a washed up salty dog like me, but if you're town; 2 pieces of advice for future games: 1) posts that list every player are less beneficial than posts that focus hard in on a few and 2) generally speaking don't post glowing town reads during night phase, you only put targets on people/help mafia. nevertheless, what do you think about my scumreads? i think you're wrong on hamamuratacobellchalupa but my reason is awful. i realize he has done literal stone nothing, but the suggesting a jester thing as a new player (i think) to this site just seems like such a dumb town tell to me. the rest of your hard scum reads are very bland and thread sentimenty to me. you said nothing i felt was a keen observation or original that made me think they were more scum or you were more town. plus you insulted me, and i shed a tear. That strikes me as odd. Let me explain:
First of all, you brought your argument of a dumbtell on taco bell before already. I know that, so you're not adding anything new. Which is fine as I didn't raise anything new either but I wished that my scumread would make you re-read and reconsider. You chose to hard defend taco bell so you should be interested in doing a bit more than just dropping the same thing again, right?
Then, you say I'd follow thread sentiment. Except I was the one who started the Koshi wagon and pushed for it over the course of day 1. Going with Vivax isn't thread sentimenty as it's objectivally a good thing to lynch him. Same applies to Lunatic. Keep in mind that the goal of listing my scumreads is not to make myself town but instead raise awareness and get others to pursue those guys, too. You're not doing that, you're reading my list only in the context of beentheredonethat's alignment. Why do you focus so hard on me?
It's not directly scummy to do that, yeah, but I think there are plenty of people to talk about. If you choose to try to read me, then ask questions, read my filter or whatever, but don't sacrifice my reads. I actually want to talk about my reads. Please do so .
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On October 23 2016 04:37 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:33 Skynx wrote:On October 23 2016 04:16 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 23 2016 03:44 Skynx wrote:On October 23 2016 03:42 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 23 2016 03:41 Skynx wrote:On October 23 2016 03:38 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 23 2016 03:30 Skynx wrote: If ritoky was RB'd, then H1D>ritoky + Vivax>GB + Koshi>GB.
Koshi & Vivax would make sense. reading just that without context but looks like shit it is Its H1D ritoky Vivax Koshi GB on the new list. Vivax was higher on the list so his actions get resolved 1st so he couldn't have attacked Koshi, he attacked GB. Koshi couldn't have attacked anyone else by nature. If ritoky didn't move, H1D couldn't have attacked anyone else by nature cuz he was higher up on the list. oh its just mechanics and not reads only marginally better My reads are in my filter if you wanna read them be my guest. Meanwhile, On October 22 2016 05:59 Dandel Ion wrote: btnd hardconfirmed town btw What made you say this? Why you voted TT? what might have he have done around the time i said that? and why would i think that? because i thought it very likely he was mafia, that's usually how we do This is basically a dodge lol. If you can account someone to 100% confirmed town you must have solid reasons to back it up. In this case what are your reasons pls quote some specific stuff. Thanks for mafia 101, you were lynching Vivax who's your 100% scumread and u switch to tt because you feel he's scum at the time yeah thanks that doesnt add up. Why you voted TT? yes its a dodge, gj, but you're scummy so i'd rather get a read on you. I have solid reasons, i just didn't post them. vivax is 100% scum now but was he really my 100% scumread then? is that your final answer? Are you a troll? Otherwise im having the most difficult time understanding you. You didn't ask me anything. You call me scummy but you're the hiding your reasons for voting for a particular person.
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On October 23 2016 04:43 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:36 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 04:34 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:32 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote: why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me? I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi. It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first. Why exactly do you scumread HF? And don't say it's in your filter. TL:DR meta read combined with miss lynch and not taking responsibility. Okay,im not buying that but okay. Who else is scum? I'm kinda still trying to figure out Koshi/HF. But I don't like Vivax. Ptm is probably town. I have a few more town reads but I'll have to look at the player list. You do agree that "I'm working on Koshi/HF and I don't like Vivax" is pretty much the lamest answer you can give to that question?
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On October 23 2016 04:44 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:38 Holyflare wrote:On October 23 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote: why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me? I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi. It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first. ok well I just won't tell you then See this is such anti town behavior, why not? because it annoys you GOD DAMMIT, it's true it does. GG NO RE :D So pretty please with sugar on top, can you please tell me? Honestly I don't think it's that much to ask for.
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On October 23 2016 04:44 Holyflare wrote: Can you explain to me how I didn't take responsibility for the lynch? I told you I did but I gave him lots of outs and he didn't post anything worthy of me not voting him.
It's just the way mafia goes. I don't think that you engaging in a discussion with Lunatic will lead to anything valuable, so maybe you might want to drop more scumreads? I mean you started the case on Tictock, surely you can deduce something from people's reaction to your initial case, although it was on town? You have a reputation, live up to it
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On October 23 2016 04:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:44 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:38 Holyflare wrote:On October 23 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote: why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me? I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi. It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first. ok well I just won't tell you then See this is such anti town behavior, why not? because it annoys you GOD DAMMIT, it's true it does. GG NO RE :D So pretty please with sugar on top, can you please tell me? Honestly I don't think it's that much to ask for. no okay, fair and square, now please stop this uselessness and do something useful
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eg. look at ritoky's and my conversation, you scumread ritoky and maybe even scumread me (dunno tbh) so that should be a good read for you
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I can't be bothered to do something useful I'll just likely wait till next phase and I've told you the most useful information in the game already, artanis is definitely mafia.
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I think ritoky's read is shit but it's something that I'm more used to a town ritoky posting and ritoky did that thing d1 with his lunatic/gb read to "mindmeld" me so he's in my whatever list and i'll see what he does
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oh Vivax and Lord Tolkien were the first to vote town!Tictock and both are my scumreads. Koshi also voting Tictock after having been on ritoky, Lunaticman, Hopelss and skynx and Vivax.
Nothing new about Vivax but it strengthens my Tolkien scumread tbh
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alight wont be here until after deadline if youre confused or undecided just keep in mind that punching koshi or artanis is the best decision punching vivax is a waste of time hes the lynch
no read lists or anything, not even worried about dying tonight figure that 'wifom' out scum
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On October 23 2016 04:50 Holyflare wrote: I think ritoky's read is shit but it's something that I'm more used to a town ritoky posting and ritoky did that thing d1 with his lunatic/gb read to "mindmeld" me so he's in my whatever list and i'll see what he does that's a half-assed meta read if I've ever seen one.
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On October 23 2016 04:49 Holyflare wrote: I can't be bothered to do something useful I'll just likely wait till next phase and I've told you the most useful information in the game already, artanis is definitely mafia. Like Tictock was mafia? Spitting out names is not exactly great. Starting to dislike HF here.
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On October 23 2016 04:45 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2016 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 04:26 ritoky wrote: btdt you probably don't want to hear this from a washed up salty dog like me, but if you're town; 2 pieces of advice for future games: 1) posts that list every player are less beneficial than posts that focus hard in on a few and 2) generally speaking don't post glowing town reads during night phase, you only put targets on people/help mafia. nevertheless, what do you think about my scumreads? i think you're wrong on hamamuratacobellchalupa but my reason is awful. i realize he has done literal stone nothing, but the suggesting a jester thing as a new player (i think) to this site just seems like such a dumb town tell to me. the rest of your hard scum reads are very bland and thread sentimenty to me. you said nothing i felt was a keen observation or original that made me think they were more scum or you were more town. plus you insulted me, and i shed a tear. That strikes me as odd. Let me explain: First of all, you brought your argument of a dumbtell on taco bell before already. I know that, so you're not adding anything new. Which is fine as I didn't raise anything new either but I wished that my scumread would make you re-read and reconsider. You chose to hard defend taco bell so you should be interested in doing a bit more than just dropping the same thing again, right? Then, you say I'd follow thread sentiment. Except I was the one who started the Koshi wagon and pushed for it over the course of day 1. Going with Vivax isn't thread sentimenty as it's objectivally a good thing to lynch him. Same applies to Lunatic. Keep in mind that the goal of listing my scumreads is not to make myself town but instead raise awareness and get others to pursue those guys, too. You're not doing that, you're reading my list only in the context of beentheredonethat's alignment. Why do you focus so hard on me? It's not directly scummy to do that, yeah, but I think there are plenty of people to talk about. If you choose to try to read me, then ask questions, read my filter or whatever, but don't sacrifice my reads. I actually want to talk about my reads. Please do so .
1) because while other people think it is stupid and have told me so on multiple occasions and lynched me over it; i am a firm believer in the game philosophy that 1 moment in someone's filter can make them irrevocably town or mafia. i think this is especially the case with new players. many people lose sight of a moment of clarity over the course of 10 days as it gets muddled in shitwater; i try to hold on to those moments.
2) it's 100 pages, i don't remember who started trains that 15 people agree on, maybe it was you. but what you said about those trains i had read before from multiple people. so basically what i am saying is it didn't advance my opinion to a new understanding about the players you were scum reading, and didn't spark interest/awareness; it simply re-hashed whats already been said. it also lacked an a-ha or keen observation which would make me think "wow btdt is really looking at this game critically, damn sooooo town." so basically it didn't adjust my read on your scum reads or you.
i do like that you care about your reads though, that's more than many.
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On October 23 2016 04:52 Dandel Ion wrote: alight wont be here until after deadline if youre confused or undecided just keep in mind that punching koshi or artanis is the best decision punching vivax is a waste of time hes the lynch
no read lists or anything, not even worried about dying tonight figure that 'wifom' out scum
From shadow to shallow, my friend!
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