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On October 23 2016 05:25 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 05:23 ritoky wrote:
what's wrong with HF's artanis read? artanis isn't one to have super shallow reads as town, yeah 100 pages as a sub is daunting, but i expected him to have at least 1 read with some depth by now. I posted that already, but here it is once more: it's a read on a replacement that had less than 24 hours to catch up 120+ pages. I think it's way too early to scumread him for the reasons HF mentioned. The reasons are technically valid, but I think town!Artanis will improve by a lot over D2. Of course I don't have the meta advantage that you guys have as you're present on this page way longer than I am.
i mean.....maybe you don't agree with him about artanis being 100% mafia, but your post implies that artanis needs to do more to deserve a town read. what's wrong with HF applying pressure to artanis to do said things, even if he is being extreme.
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On October 23 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:
Vigshots should go on Vivax/Sicklucker.
Prots on btdt+ptmc.
On October 23 2016 03:05 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 03:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 23 2016 02:58 Skynx wrote:On October 23 2016 02:50 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 23 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:
Vigshots should go on Vivax/Sicklucker.
Prots on btdt+ptmc. Wat Terrible Vivax is going to get protection from his team tonight so save your shots for people we aren't lynching for sure. If we don't kill him flat out since we're lynching him we waste it. I also don't think Btdt looks so hot anymore and ptmc despite being mod confirmedish is a terrible night target. People use your own discretion with your abilities. Do you actually believe anything you wrote in there? Absolutely. Problem? Yeah I disagree entirely. First of all I'm not sure why you all 100% sr Vivax, he's nothing more than a policy lynch, being inactive on purpose like 5-6 others I listed. He is an excellent vig target as D2 lynching him wouldn't be different that D1 where everyone is agreeing on the lynch because Vivax is bad and doesn't do shit but then switch to someone else cuz they are unsure. btdt and ptmc are like only top townies, not really up for discussion one of them is dead 100%.
as pointed out by others these are all really bad posts by skynx along with the reads he threw out when he re-entered. not that that changes my read on him but still.
the more he posts, the more I like tubesock as town as well. especially in the exchange with skynx.
also on the topic of hopeless, I think he's wrong on Koshi and given his reads on others, he sounds towny, absent the modconfirm issue. and even in that, his train of thought made sense.
lord tolkien had one post in his entire filter as to why he didn't like wave of shadow related to the voting. post was towny but rest of filter was not...ugh.
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people calling WaveofShadow mafia, aside from Lord Tolkien, where I disagree with his argument against WoS, can someone point to me something specific?
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anyway i have to go be the designated driver for my brother's bachelor party now, might check via phone randomly over the course of the day.
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On October 23 2016 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
ok you can keep doing what you're doing and, no, I don't town read you I have no idea where you got that from my reads haven't actually really changed since I posted that list other than artanis moving to definitely mafia because rels replaced and is around online playing games and artanis' posts were trash hedges on everything he said apart from his read on you which was based entirely on your post COUNT which was irrelevant as that game had half the amount of this one the entirety of it
his read on vivax is entirely based on post count too when he should know that vivax plays trash like this as town too because he did that a few games ago as town and I'm pretty sure artanis commented on that
his hopeless read is "hopeless is doing something" which is another useless post that is based on basically no reasoning
he's given 4 reads and they're all based on throwaway useless reasons that aren't related to anything, even his read on me he basically calls me town, says I've done everything towny and then hedges like fuck and leaves it open to me being mafia which absolutely made no sense with what he posted
I would really appreciate if you'd use more punctuation.
I think you're townreading me because you say "[townreading btdt] is the easiest thing for mafia to do". That either implies that you're mafia, townreading me (because well you know I'm town) or you're town thinking "uhhh that btdt guy for sure gets townread by mafia" which, well, implies that I am town as it would be quite dumb for my potential scum teammates to townread me.
This is what you said. Literally. So why are you saying you don't townread me here?
Whoa wait, was that an actual scum slip? Guys, guys, please comment on that. I'm bolding it right now.
This is the post where HF says it:
On October 23 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
I have way more time on weekends I dunno why everyone says weekends tank activity, also Artanis town reading you is not exactly rocket science for mafia to do that's their easiest thing to go to.
Trust me he'd have wayyyyyyyyy more motivation than the trash he posted, he's had literally the whole week to talk to rsoultin about the game since he was on the replacement list from the start of it.
I don't know why you're picking me out only for posting lazy reads when you literally just watched me coach disformation/shadow and tell him the entire time i'm lazy as fuck and you also just saw dandel drop names and you didn't call him out.
don't like man
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On October 23 2016 05:29 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 05:25 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 05:23 ritoky wrote:
what's wrong with HF's artanis read? artanis isn't one to have super shallow reads as town, yeah 100 pages as a sub is daunting, but i expected him to have at least 1 read with some depth by now. I posted that already, but here it is once more: it's a read on a replacement that had less than 24 hours to catch up 120+ pages. I think it's way too early to scumread him for the reasons HF mentioned. The reasons are technically valid, but I think town!Artanis will improve by a lot over D2. Of course I don't have the meta advantage that you guys have as you're present on this page way longer than I am. i mean.....maybe you don't agree with him about artanis being 100% mafia, but your post implies that artanis needs to do more to deserve a town read. what's wrong with HF applying pressure to artanis to do said things, even if he is being extreme.
Exactly that part, the "being extreme". Also it's useless to put pressure on Artanis given we have Koshi and Vivax as the go-to D2 wagons. HF was all about "yeah Koshi is bad" so why suddenly get a hard-on about Artanis?
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how is that a scum slip? not seeing it here. sounds like a holyflare is talking about a go-to deflection for mafia.
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On October 23 2016 05:37 NocturneMage wrote:
how is that a scum slip? not seeing it here. sounds like a holyflare is talking about a go-to deflection for mafia.
The scum slip would be that he doesn't town read me although he clearly implies that he does. Although I agree, sounds weak even in my own ears right now.
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Still, doesn't make sense. He implies he townreads me, says he doesn't townread me. I'm not understanding that.
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I don't think I need more punctuation, it's quite obvious it says that mafia giving out town reads is easy for them to do.
If you're town then you should realise this but you aren't and you're using it to defend a heavily bad playing artanis which is suspicious as fuck.
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it has nothing to do with my read on you in the slightest, that's poor reading comprehension on your part.
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On October 23 2016 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think I need more punctuation, it's quite obvious it says that mafia giving out town reads is easy for them to do.
If you're town then you should realise this but you aren't and you're using it to defend a heavily bad playing artanis which is suspicious as fuck.
So you imply that you townread me.
Say you don't townread me.
Say that it's easy for mafia to give out townreads (while you do the opposite thing)
That's a scumslip
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On October 23 2016 05:39 Holyflare wrote:
it has nothing to do with my read on you in the slightest, that's poor reading comprehension on your part.
possible, I'm not a native speaker
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I'm open to being convinced by people that are not holyflare that this is not a real scumslip.
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On October 23 2016 05:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
Exactly that part, the "being extreme". Also it's useless to put pressure on Artanis given we have Koshi and Vivax as the go-to D2 wagons. HF was all about "yeah Koshi is bad" so why suddenly get a hard-on about Artanis?
actually I disagree. I haven't looked hard at artanis yet myself, but I'm running on the assumption there are five, maybe six mafia players. there's no reason why people shouldn't try getting reactions and alignment reads or scumreads on people other than koshi and vivax.
also caught up isolating filters. ignoring artanis who replaced in, somewhere in the pool of exo, bm, lord tolkien, kurumi and glowingbear, I'm willing to bet there's one mafia in there. they are all laying pretty damned low.
On October 23 2016 02:44 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 00:11 NocturneMage wrote:On October 22 2016 23:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Btw perfection seems townie to me GB when you can, mind giving us your top three scum reads? I don't have an idea where your head is at the moment. I don't have scum reads. I've barely read the thread tbh. From times to times I come to the thread and try to get impressions from posts. I am a bit suspicious of Ritoky because Ritoky knows how my mind as mafia works and this is definitely not how I play as Mafia. But I don't have stronger grounds on him. Nothing really stands out as scummy from his posts. His gifs gave me a bad impression in the beginning of the game, but that is very weak to form a scumread on someone. In the other hand, Holyflare had the same impression as me, so a mindmeld occurred. That made me think Holyflare is town. I saw a genuine post from a guy that I forgot his username. I even quoted it. And now I think iamperfection comes from a very townie POV. So there's that.
though gb admits he's not really reading and I can see gb pulling as town not playing like he didn't in the onegu game I observed, but that doesn't really make him town, just not out of his range.
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On October 23 2016 05:40 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think I need more punctuation, it's quite obvious it says that mafia giving out town reads is easy for them to do.
If you're town then you should realise this but you aren't and you're using it to defend a heavily bad playing artanis which is suspicious as fuck. So you imply that you townread me. Say you don't townread me. Say that it's easy for mafia to give out townreads (while you do the opposite thing) That's a scumslip
I literally have no idea what this post says lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
whatevs you're looking in the wrong places, follow my scummy list it's a gold mine 
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So basically, ritoky/NM/HF are trying to tell me I'm wrong on what I say about HF?
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On October 23 2016 05:42 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 05:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
Exactly that part, the "being extreme". Also it's useless to put pressure on Artanis given we have Koshi and Vivax as the go-to D2 wagons. HF was all about "yeah Koshi is bad" so why suddenly get a hard-on about Artanis? actually I disagree. I haven't looked hard at artanis yet myself, but I'm running on the assumption there are five, maybe six mafia players. there's no reason why people shouldn't try getting reactions and alignment reads or scumreads on people other than koshi and vivax. also caught up isolating filters. ignoring artanis who replaced in, somewhere in the pool of exo, bm, lord tolkien, kurumi and glowingbear, I'm willing to bet there's one mafia in there. they are all laying pretty damned low. Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 02:44 GlowingBear wrote:On October 23 2016 00:11 NocturneMage wrote:On October 22 2016 23:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Btw perfection seems townie to me GB when you can, mind giving us your top three scum reads? I don't have an idea where your head is at the moment. I don't have scum reads. I've barely read the thread tbh. From times to times I come to the thread and try to get impressions from posts. I am a bit suspicious of Ritoky because Ritoky knows how my mind as mafia works and this is definitely not how I play as Mafia. But I don't have stronger grounds on him. Nothing really stands out as scummy from his posts. His gifs gave me a bad impression in the beginning of the game, but that is very weak to form a scumread on someone. In the other hand, Holyflare had the same impression as me, so a mindmeld occurred. That made me think Holyflare is town. I saw a genuine post from a guy that I forgot his username. I even quoted it. And now I think iamperfection comes from a very townie POV. So there's that. though gb admits he's not really reading and I can see gb pulling as town not playing like he didn't in the onegu game I observed, but that doesn't really make him town, just not out of his range.
I actually weirdly liked that gb post tbh
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On October 23 2016 05:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 05:40 beentheredonethat wrote:On October 23 2016 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think I need more punctuation, it's quite obvious it says that mafia giving out town reads is easy for them to do.
If you're town then you should realise this but you aren't and you're using it to defend a heavily bad playing artanis which is suspicious as fuck. So you imply that you townread me. Say you don't townread me. Say that it's easy for mafia to give out townreads (while you do the opposite thing) That's a scumslip I literally have no idea what this post says lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatevs you're looking in the wrong places, follow my scummy list it's a gold mine
full circle, tictoc.
On the other hand, you said "it's a gold mine" about your own town filter back in Cruise mafia, in obs QT though. Exactly the same thing. Coincidence?
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I'm really insecure about my HF read right now
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