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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
October 22 2016 19:43 GMT
#2181
On October 23 2016 04:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:34 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me?


I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi.

It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first.


Why exactly do you scumread HF? And don't say it's in your filter.


TL:DR meta read combined with miss lynch and not taking responsibility.

Okay,im not buying that but okay. Who else is scum?


I'm kinda still trying to figure out Koshi/HF. But I don't like Vivax.

Ptm is probably town. I have a few more town reads but I'll have to look at the player list.
Failure is not an option
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2016 19:44 GMT
#2182
Can you explain to me how I didn't take responsibility for the lynch? I told you I did but I gave him lots of outs and he didn't post anything worthy of me not voting him.

It's just the way mafia goes.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
October 22 2016 19:44 GMT
#2183
On October 23 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me?


I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi.

It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first.



ok well I just won't tell you then


See this is such anti town behavior, why not?



because it annoys you


GOD DAMMIT, it's true it does. GG NO RE :D


So pretty please with sugar on top, can you please tell me?

Honestly I don't think it's that much to ask for.
Failure is not an option
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 22 2016 19:45 GMT
#2184
On October 23 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:26 ritoky wrote:
btdt you probably don't want to hear this from a washed up salty dog like me, but if you're town; 2 pieces of advice for future games: 1) posts that list every player are less beneficial than posts that focus hard in on a few and 2) generally speaking don't post glowing town reads during night phase, you only put targets on people/help mafia.

nevertheless, what do you think about my scumreads?


i think you're wrong on hamamuratacobellchalupa but my reason is awful. i realize he has done literal stone nothing, but the suggesting a jester thing as a new player (i think) to this site just seems like such a dumb town tell to me.

the rest of your hard scum reads are very bland and thread sentimenty to me. you said nothing i felt was a keen observation or original that made me think they were more scum or you were more town.

plus you insulted me, and i shed a tear.

That strikes me as odd. Let me explain:

First of all, you brought your argument of a dumbtell on taco bell before already. I know that, so you're not adding anything new. Which is fine as I didn't raise anything new either but I wished that my scumread would make you re-read and reconsider. You chose to hard defend taco bell so you should be interested in doing a bit more than just dropping the same thing again, right?

Then, you say I'd follow thread sentiment. Except I was the one who started the Koshi wagon and pushed for it over the course of day 1. Going with Vivax isn't thread sentimenty as it's objectivally a good thing to lynch him. Same applies to Lunatic. Keep in mind that the goal of listing my scumreads is not to make myself town but instead raise awareness and get others to pursue those guys, too. You're not doing that, you're reading my list only in the context of beentheredonethat's alignment. Why do you focus so hard on me?

It's not directly scummy to do that, yeah, but I think there are plenty of people to talk about. If you choose to try to read me, then ask questions, read my filter or whatever, but don't sacrifice my reads. I actually want to talk about my reads. Please do so .
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 22 2016 19:45 GMT
#2185
On October 23 2016 04:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:33 Skynx wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 23 2016 03:44 Skynx wrote:
On October 23 2016 03:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 23 2016 03:41 Skynx wrote:
On October 23 2016 03:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 23 2016 03:30 Skynx wrote:
If ritoky was RB'd, then H1D>ritoky + Vivax>GB + Koshi>GB.

Koshi & Vivax would make sense.

reading just that without context but

looks like shit it is

Its

H1D
ritoky
Vivax
Koshi
GB

on the new list.

Vivax was higher on the list so his actions get resolved 1st so he couldn't have attacked Koshi, he attacked GB.
Koshi couldn't have attacked anyone else by nature.
If ritoky didn't move, H1D couldn't have attacked anyone else by nature cuz he was higher up on the list.

oh its just mechanics and not reads

only marginally better

My reads are in my filter if you wanna read them be my guest.

Meanwhile,

On October 22 2016 05:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
btnd hardconfirmed town btw

What made you say this?
Why you voted TT?

what might have he have done around the time i said that? and why would i think that?

because i thought it very likely he was mafia, that's usually how we do

This is basically a dodge lol. If you can account someone to 100% confirmed town you must have solid reasons to back it up. In this case what are your reasons pls quote some specific stuff.

Thanks for mafia 101, you were lynching Vivax who's your 100% scumread and u switch to tt because you feel he's scum at the time yeah thanks that doesnt add up. Why you voted TT?

yes its a dodge, gj, but you're scummy so i'd rather get a read on you. I have solid reasons, i just didn't post them.

vivax is 100% scum now but was he really my 100% scumread then? is that your final answer?

Are you a troll? Otherwise im having the most difficult time understanding you.
You didn't ask me anything.
You call me scummy but you're the hiding your reasons for voting for a particular person.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 22 2016 19:46 GMT
#2186
On October 23 2016 04:43 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:34 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me?


I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi.

It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first.


Why exactly do you scumread HF? And don't say it's in your filter.


TL:DR meta read combined with miss lynch and not taking responsibility.

Okay,im not buying that but okay. Who else is scum?


I'm kinda still trying to figure out Koshi/HF. But I don't like Vivax.

Ptm is probably town. I have a few more town reads but I'll have to look at the player list.

You do agree that "I'm working on Koshi/HF and I don't like Vivax" is pretty much the lamest answer you can give to that question?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2016 19:46 GMT
#2187
On October 23 2016 04:44 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me?


I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi.

It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first.



ok well I just won't tell you then


See this is such anti town behavior, why not?



because it annoys you


GOD DAMMIT, it's true it does. GG NO RE :D


So pretty please with sugar on top, can you please tell me?

Honestly I don't think it's that much to ask for.


no
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 22 2016 19:46 GMT
#2188
suit yourself
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 22 2016 19:47 GMT
#2189
edit that was @scumyx
A backwards poet writes inverse.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 22 2016 19:47 GMT
#2190
On October 23 2016 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain to me how I didn't take responsibility for the lynch? I told you I did but I gave him lots of outs and he didn't post anything worthy of me not voting him.

It's just the way mafia goes.

I don't think that you engaging in a discussion with Lunatic will lead to anything valuable, so maybe you might want to drop more scumreads? I mean you started the case on Tictock, surely you can deduce something from people's reaction to your initial case, although it was on town? You have a reputation, live up to it
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 22 2016 19:47 GMT
#2191
On October 23 2016 04:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:44 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
why would I tell you when you're blatantly scum reading me?


I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi.

It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first.



ok well I just won't tell you then


See this is such anti town behavior, why not?



because it annoys you


GOD DAMMIT, it's true it does. GG NO RE :D


So pretty please with sugar on top, can you please tell me?

Honestly I don't think it's that much to ask for.


no

okay, fair and square, now please stop this uselessness and do something useful
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 22 2016 19:48 GMT
#2192
eg. look at ritoky's and my conversation, you scumread ritoky and maybe even scumread me (dunno tbh) so that should be a good read for you
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2016 19:49 GMT
#2193
I can't be bothered to do something useful I'll just likely wait till next phase and I've told you the most useful information in the game already, artanis is definitely mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2016 19:50 GMT
#2194
I think ritoky's read is shit but it's something that I'm more used to a town ritoky posting and ritoky did that thing d1 with his lunatic/gb read to "mindmeld" me so he's in my whatever list and i'll see what he does
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 22 2016 19:52 GMT
#2195
oh Vivax and Lord Tolkien were the first to vote town!Tictock and both are my scumreads. Koshi also voting Tictock after having been on ritoky, Lunaticman, Hopelss and skynx and Vivax.

Nothing new about Vivax but it strengthens my Tolkien scumread tbh
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 22 2016 19:52 GMT
#2196
alight wont be here until after deadline
if youre confused or undecided just keep in mind that punching koshi or artanis is the best decision
punching vivax is a waste of time hes the lynch


no read lists or anything, not even worried about dying tonight
figure that 'wifom' out scum
A backwards poet writes inverse.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 22 2016 19:53 GMT
#2197
On October 23 2016 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
I think ritoky's read is shit but it's something that I'm more used to a town ritoky posting and ritoky did that thing d1 with his lunatic/gb read to "mindmeld" me so he's in my whatever list and i'll see what he does

that's a half-assed meta read if I've ever seen one.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 22 2016 19:54 GMT
#2198
On October 23 2016 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I can't be bothered to do something useful I'll just likely wait till next phase and I've told you the most useful information in the game already, artanis is definitely mafia.

Like Tictock was mafia? Spitting out names is not exactly great. Starting to dislike HF here.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 22 2016 19:54 GMT
#2199
On October 23 2016 04:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:26 ritoky wrote:
btdt you probably don't want to hear this from a washed up salty dog like me, but if you're town; 2 pieces of advice for future games: 1) posts that list every player are less beneficial than posts that focus hard in on a few and 2) generally speaking don't post glowing town reads during night phase, you only put targets on people/help mafia.

nevertheless, what do you think about my scumreads?


i think you're wrong on hamamuratacobellchalupa but my reason is awful. i realize he has done literal stone nothing, but the suggesting a jester thing as a new player (i think) to this site just seems like such a dumb town tell to me.

the rest of your hard scum reads are very bland and thread sentimenty to me. you said nothing i felt was a keen observation or original that made me think they were more scum or you were more town.

plus you insulted me, and i shed a tear.

That strikes me as odd. Let me explain:

First of all, you brought your argument of a dumbtell on taco bell before already. I know that, so you're not adding anything new. Which is fine as I didn't raise anything new either but I wished that my scumread would make you re-read and reconsider. You chose to hard defend taco bell so you should be interested in doing a bit more than just dropping the same thing again, right?

Then, you say I'd follow thread sentiment. Except I was the one who started the Koshi wagon and pushed for it over the course of day 1. Going with Vivax isn't thread sentimenty as it's objectivally a good thing to lynch him. Same applies to Lunatic. Keep in mind that the goal of listing my scumreads is not to make myself town but instead raise awareness and get others to pursue those guys, too. You're not doing that, you're reading my list only in the context of beentheredonethat's alignment. Why do you focus so hard on me?

It's not directly scummy to do that, yeah, but I think there are plenty of people to talk about. If you choose to try to read me, then ask questions, read my filter or whatever, but don't sacrifice my reads. I actually want to talk about my reads. Please do so .


1) because while other people think it is stupid and have told me so on multiple occasions and lynched me over it; i am a firm believer in the game philosophy that 1 moment in someone's filter can make them irrevocably town or mafia. i think this is especially the case with new players. many people lose sight of a moment of clarity over the course of 10 days as it gets muddled in shitwater; i try to hold on to those moments.

2) it's 100 pages, i don't remember who started trains that 15 people agree on, maybe it was you. but what you said about those trains i had read before from multiple people. so basically what i am saying is it didn't advance my opinion to a new understanding about the players you were scum reading, and didn't spark interest/awareness; it simply re-hashed whats already been said. it also lacked an a-ha or keen observation which would make me think "wow btdt is really looking at this game critically, damn sooooo town." so basically it didn't adjust my read on your scum reads or you.

i do like that you care about your reads though, that's more than many.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2016 19:55 GMT
#2200
On October 23 2016 04:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
alight wont be here until after deadline
if youre confused or undecided just keep in mind that punching koshi or artanis is the best decision
punching vivax is a waste of time hes the lynch


no read lists or anything, not even worried about dying tonight
figure that 'wifom' out scum


From shadow to shallow, my friend!
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