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On October 21 2016 21:00 ptmc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 20:02 Dandel Ion wrote:fucking ebwop On October 21 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote: Kurumi- i dont understand this kid. I dont like the way he plays i dont like his list i dont like the self post for no reason i dont even like his name. but on reread seems to be confident he wont be lynched post 1009 he might be trying to figure things out i guess. ill put as null and unvote. Noithing he does makes sense to me though.
Skynx- scum read. Posting stuff but does not seem in my view to be trying to kill mafia. Example post 868 throws some shade on me but does nothing with it.
ExO_- something about his tone just seems unatural to me. Post 368 for example does come across to me as genuine. Literally the only thing in his filter talks about wos and could be that thing were scum catch a mistake by town try to make it scummy and focus on it entirely. Post 420 is bad after some time brings nothing to the table and then later on just talks about wave again. votes for dandel but dosent seem interested in actually killing and talks about wave more not like the content of the list or just that he posts lists? i should read skynx filter im just writing this to remind myself agreed on exo, hes like a btnd without the redeeming activity, but at least with less spamming. 'go down list of scumtells, push those scumtells, ignore everything else' bookkeepers, man On October 21 2016 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Also iamp you are like...opposite to me on so many reads. I don't know why you think any of BTDT's activity makes him top town. He is literally playing the easiest way for a newer player to do so as either alignment, and that's the way you're 'supposed to.' its the easiest way, but it's still more effort than most noob scums put into scummering. i'm kinda just sitting here waiting if he can keep it up. if he drops we can revisit him but until then im not really concerned. just annoyed. On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote: It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.
If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy. post your spreadsheet Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia. do what i did I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date. I'd be happy with lynching any of the following: Lunaticman Glowingbear Hazura Tako bell Tubesock All for being useless lurkers. Would also lynch Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure Ptmc: blending this sounds pretty good. ptmc coming in when called out, just defending himself, leaving. (sorry there was also a post purely about game mechanics) the defense itself was fine actually but i still dont like the whole package. i backed off to give him room to do his thing, and no thing was done feels bad man On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote: I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs that's the part that made you feel town? uh ok. Hey, i said i would do stuff today im an impatient man
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This is my second game, i played in the last newbie game. The reads for low content could easily change, if good content comes from those players. Anything specific you disagree with?
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From what I remember Kurumi plays a very clean game as mafia. He uses the TMI to put himself in a good position and even likes to be seen as smart. I would be surprised if he is mafia now. He is being an idiot atm and he knows it.
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On October 21 2016 21:18 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 21:00 ptmc wrote:On October 21 2016 20:02 Dandel Ion wrote:fucking ebwop On October 21 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote: Kurumi- i dont understand this kid. I dont like the way he plays i dont like his list i dont like the self post for no reason i dont even like his name. but on reread seems to be confident he wont be lynched post 1009 he might be trying to figure things out i guess. ill put as null and unvote. Noithing he does makes sense to me though.
Skynx- scum read. Posting stuff but does not seem in my view to be trying to kill mafia. Example post 868 throws some shade on me but does nothing with it.
ExO_- something about his tone just seems unatural to me. Post 368 for example does come across to me as genuine. Literally the only thing in his filter talks about wos and could be that thing were scum catch a mistake by town try to make it scummy and focus on it entirely. Post 420 is bad after some time brings nothing to the table and then later on just talks about wave again. votes for dandel but dosent seem interested in actually killing and talks about wave more not like the content of the list or just that he posts lists? i should read skynx filter im just writing this to remind myself agreed on exo, hes like a btnd without the redeeming activity, but at least with less spamming. 'go down list of scumtells, push those scumtells, ignore everything else' bookkeepers, man On October 21 2016 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Also iamp you are like...opposite to me on so many reads. I don't know why you think any of BTDT's activity makes him top town. He is literally playing the easiest way for a newer player to do so as either alignment, and that's the way you're 'supposed to.' its the easiest way, but it's still more effort than most noob scums put into scummering. i'm kinda just sitting here waiting if he can keep it up. if he drops we can revisit him but until then im not really concerned. just annoyed. On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote: It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.
If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy. post your spreadsheet Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia. do what i did I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date. I'd be happy with lynching any of the following: Lunaticman Glowingbear Hazura Tako bell Tubesock All for being useless lurkers. Would also lynch Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure Ptmc: blending this sounds pretty good. ptmc coming in when called out, just defending himself, leaving. (sorry there was also a post purely about game mechanics) the defense itself was fine actually but i still dont like the whole package. i backed off to give him room to do his thing, and no thing was done feels bad man On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote: I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs that's the part that made you feel town? uh ok. Hey, i said i would do stuff today im an impatient man
fair enough. Do you think Wave had tmi on his amount-of-mafia post?
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On October 21 2016 21:05 ptmc wrote: and do we even know how many mafia there are?
No we don't. Best guess (imo) is 2 teams of 3, but could maybe be like 4 scum, 2 "neutral" (creeps?) or something.
Given 24 players I think ~6 scum is reasonable.
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On October 21 2016 21:19 ptmc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 21:18 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 21:00 ptmc wrote:On October 21 2016 20:02 Dandel Ion wrote:fucking ebwop On October 21 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote: Kurumi- i dont understand this kid. I dont like the way he plays i dont like his list i dont like the self post for no reason i dont even like his name. but on reread seems to be confident he wont be lynched post 1009 he might be trying to figure things out i guess. ill put as null and unvote. Noithing he does makes sense to me though.
Skynx- scum read. Posting stuff but does not seem in my view to be trying to kill mafia. Example post 868 throws some shade on me but does nothing with it.
ExO_- something about his tone just seems unatural to me. Post 368 for example does come across to me as genuine. Literally the only thing in his filter talks about wos and could be that thing were scum catch a mistake by town try to make it scummy and focus on it entirely. Post 420 is bad after some time brings nothing to the table and then later on just talks about wave again. votes for dandel but dosent seem interested in actually killing and talks about wave more not like the content of the list or just that he posts lists? i should read skynx filter im just writing this to remind myself agreed on exo, hes like a btnd without the redeeming activity, but at least with less spamming. 'go down list of scumtells, push those scumtells, ignore everything else' bookkeepers, man On October 21 2016 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Also iamp you are like...opposite to me on so many reads. I don't know why you think any of BTDT's activity makes him top town. He is literally playing the easiest way for a newer player to do so as either alignment, and that's the way you're 'supposed to.' its the easiest way, but it's still more effort than most noob scums put into scummering. i'm kinda just sitting here waiting if he can keep it up. if he drops we can revisit him but until then im not really concerned. just annoyed. On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote: It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.
If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy. post your spreadsheet Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia. do what i did I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date. I'd be happy with lynching any of the following: Lunaticman Glowingbear Hazura Tako bell Tubesock All for being useless lurkers. Would also lynch Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure Ptmc: blending this sounds pretty good. ptmc coming in when called out, just defending himself, leaving. (sorry there was also a post purely about game mechanics) the defense itself was fine actually but i still dont like the whole package. i backed off to give him room to do his thing, and no thing was done feels bad man On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote: I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs that's the part that made you feel town? uh ok. Hey, i said i would do stuff today im an impatient man fair enough. Do you think Wave had tmi on his amount-of-mafia post? not really? not tmi, we definitely dont have 8-9 scum (i havent actually counted up your post so not sure what the objectionable number even is here) i can tell you that too, it is however a very silly post and he should feel like a silly sausage for posting it.
anyway, outta here~
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I'm not really sure, if mafia really don't have a regular night kill (?) they might be even more to do some damage via regular attacks.
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On October 21 2016 14:07 Lord Tolkien wrote:Wave: pls, KP can do what they want, it's a free game Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 12:19 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Also interesting to note Lord Tolkien is nowhere in your list.
I actually remember a game where someone forgot to include someone else in a list and it ended up being crucial somehow.
Tictoc was it you in our scum game a million years ago? I feel like it was. 24 Lord Tolkien- lurker but worse as what he little he has posted is trash imo. make useless list for lynch then complains about lists later LUL. might just be bad. for got to copy Pls. My list isn't there to whore for town-cred. I just don't want to bother learning new player metas, because this site is all about the meta. Which reminds me, have I actually played with you in mafia, or just dota. Seems like to me you don't want to catch mafia
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On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:Ticktock: + Show Spoiler + Hopeless' arguing feels town Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave Wave's arguing feels town Iam feels scum likes BM's post about Wave/Exo dislikes HF dislikes me for my post on Wave likes Acro dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads dislikes coordinated attacks dislikes sicklucker dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk wary of wave, since he is only coasting dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded Thinks Skynx has a shit filter Thinks lunatics filter is scummy thinks i'm on point thinks ritoky hedges a lot dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up: dislikes Tubesock and BM dislikes LT pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler +needs a healer wants to coordinate slightly town on ritoky townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt thinks acro is bad tho thinks koshi could be town for tone dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null: Tubesock, no interactions with the thread Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me" Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now" BM, doesn't want to read his filter Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum scum: GB: scum, doesn't do anything LT, lurker with only trash posts Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel lurker: Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker wants coordination HF leans town Acro is mafia (soul reading) dislikes GB not sold wave is town iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny Dandel is only posting shit, votes him likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy) Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm starts to push koshi instead votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi dislikes sicklucker dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense dandel sucks again sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead. Says BM's weird posts fit his meta back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum does not want to clutter the thread btdt gets a tone town read not sure on HF gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate asks people for their reads might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling shitposts for days gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong) Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking dislikes Hopeless Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel Scum: WoS, hopeless Wave has provided enough to unvote likes tubesock likes lunatic thinks koshi is genuine votes HF posts self meta as to why he is not mafia ticktock is mafia is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx? votes Iamp for role-fishing slight tr on exo, null o Wave wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi, on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing exo tentatively town Wave tentatively town likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow? dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler +claims Techies reads iamp town because he is funny gets called out for shitposting by btdt thinks exo is scum I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it dislikes Vivax
should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post) doubts Dandel is scum suspicious of btdt Acro and Kurumi are town lot of filler Hamazu gets townread wants to coordinate sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt wants to make LT squirm scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now The good: Seems like actual note-taking and effort went into reading the thread.
The bad: Waffly and wishy washy. There's no reason scum can't make list posts, and simply calling half the players "scum leans" is not very useful. Then again, half the players are scummy bastards, so hard to make much else of that. Voting for WoS seems meh. We're not gonna kill WoS today, so put in some effort on finding someone else. For instance, you could join me on the H1 train to scumlandia!
The ugly: DI claimed techies? Whut?
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I don't know what exo is doing
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On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:Ticktock: + Show Spoiler + Hopeless' arguing feels town Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave Wave's arguing feels town Iam feels scum likes BM's post about Wave/Exo dislikes HF dislikes me for my post on Wave likes Acro dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads dislikes coordinated attacks dislikes sicklucker dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk wary of wave, since he is only coasting dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded Thinks Skynx has a shit filter Thinks lunatics filter is scummy thinks i'm on point thinks ritoky hedges a lot dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up: dislikes Tubesock and BM dislikes LT pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler +needs a healer wants to coordinate slightly town on ritoky townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt thinks acro is bad tho thinks koshi could be town for tone dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null: Tubesock, no interactions with the thread Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me" Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now" BM, doesn't want to read his filter Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum scum: GB: scum, doesn't do anything LT, lurker with only trash posts Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel lurker: Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker wants coordination HF leans town Acro is mafia (soul reading) dislikes GB not sold wave is town iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny Dandel is only posting shit, votes him likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy) Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm starts to push koshi instead votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi dislikes sicklucker dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense dandel sucks again sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead. Says BM's weird posts fit his meta back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum does not want to clutter the thread btdt gets a tone town read not sure on HF gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate asks people for their reads might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling shitposts for days gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong) Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking dislikes Hopeless Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel Scum: WoS, hopeless Wave has provided enough to unvote likes tubesock likes lunatic thinks koshi is genuine votes HF posts self meta as to why he is not mafia ticktock is mafia is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx? votes Iamp for role-fishing slight tr on exo, null o Wave wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi, on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing exo tentatively town Wave tentatively town likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow? dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler +claims Techies reads iamp town because he is funny gets called out for shitposting by btdt thinks exo is scum I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it dislikes Vivax
should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post) doubts Dandel is scum suspicious of btdt Acro and Kurumi are town lot of filler Hamazu gets townread wants to coordinate sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt wants to make LT squirm scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now Who do you want to kill I can't tell from this post
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Currently still on p 58. Progress is slow.
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On October 21 2016 22:09 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:Ticktock: + Show Spoiler + Hopeless' arguing feels town Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave Wave's arguing feels town Iam feels scum likes BM's post about Wave/Exo dislikes HF dislikes me for my post on Wave likes Acro dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads dislikes coordinated attacks dislikes sicklucker dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk wary of wave, since he is only coasting dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded Thinks Skynx has a shit filter Thinks lunatics filter is scummy thinks i'm on point thinks ritoky hedges a lot dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up: dislikes Tubesock and BM dislikes LT pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler +needs a healer wants to coordinate slightly town on ritoky townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt thinks acro is bad tho thinks koshi could be town for tone dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null: Tubesock, no interactions with the thread Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me" Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now" BM, doesn't want to read his filter Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum scum: GB: scum, doesn't do anything LT, lurker with only trash posts Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel lurker: Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker wants coordination HF leans town Acro is mafia (soul reading) dislikes GB not sold wave is town iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny Dandel is only posting shit, votes him likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy) Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm starts to push koshi instead votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi dislikes sicklucker dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense dandel sucks again sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead. Says BM's weird posts fit his meta back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum does not want to clutter the thread btdt gets a tone town read not sure on HF gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate asks people for their reads might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling shitposts for days gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong) Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking dislikes Hopeless Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel Scum: WoS, hopeless Wave has provided enough to unvote likes tubesock likes lunatic thinks koshi is genuine votes HF posts self meta as to why he is not mafia ticktock is mafia is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx? votes Iamp for role-fishing slight tr on exo, null o Wave wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi, on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing exo tentatively town Wave tentatively town likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow? dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler +claims Techies reads iamp town because he is funny gets called out for shitposting by btdt thinks exo is scum I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it dislikes Vivax
should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post) doubts Dandel is scum suspicious of btdt Acro and Kurumi are town lot of filler Hamazu gets townread wants to coordinate sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt wants to make LT squirm scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now The good: Seems like actual note-taking and effort went into reading the thread. The bad: Waffly and wishy washy. There's no reason scum can't make list posts, and simply calling half the players "scum leans" is not very useful. Then again, half the players are scummy bastards, so hard to make much else of that. Voting for WoS seems meh. We're not gonna kill WoS today, so put in some effort on finding someone else. For instance, you could join me on the H1 train to scumlandia! The ugly: DI claimed techies? Whut?
He claimed the LoL-analogue. I'd want to wait to see if hopeless stays hopeless or if he actually starts playing like he promised. If he doesn't, he's definitely high on the chopping block for actually being in the thread without actually contributing.
Are you not still on the fence for Wave? Or did that change lately? I don't feel like his push on me was based on much more than "omg he voted me", which is pretty terrible.
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On October 21 2016 22:13 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:Ticktock: + Show Spoiler + Hopeless' arguing feels town Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave Wave's arguing feels town Iam feels scum likes BM's post about Wave/Exo dislikes HF dislikes me for my post on Wave likes Acro dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads dislikes coordinated attacks dislikes sicklucker dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk wary of wave, since he is only coasting dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded Thinks Skynx has a shit filter Thinks lunatics filter is scummy thinks i'm on point thinks ritoky hedges a lot dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up: dislikes Tubesock and BM dislikes LT pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler +needs a healer wants to coordinate slightly town on ritoky townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt thinks acro is bad tho thinks koshi could be town for tone dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null: Tubesock, no interactions with the thread Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me" Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now" BM, doesn't want to read his filter Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum scum: GB: scum, doesn't do anything LT, lurker with only trash posts Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel lurker: Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker wants coordination HF leans town Acro is mafia (soul reading) dislikes GB not sold wave is town iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny Dandel is only posting shit, votes him likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy) Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm starts to push koshi instead votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi dislikes sicklucker dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense dandel sucks again sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead. Says BM's weird posts fit his meta back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum does not want to clutter the thread btdt gets a tone town read not sure on HF gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate asks people for their reads might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling shitposts for days gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong) Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking dislikes Hopeless Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel Scum: WoS, hopeless Wave has provided enough to unvote likes tubesock likes lunatic thinks koshi is genuine votes HF posts self meta as to why he is not mafia ticktock is mafia is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx? votes Iamp for role-fishing slight tr on exo, null o Wave wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi, on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing exo tentatively town Wave tentatively town likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow? dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler +claims Techies reads iamp town because he is funny gets called out for shitposting by btdt thinks exo is scum I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it dislikes Vivax
should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post) doubts Dandel is scum suspicious of btdt Acro and Kurumi are town lot of filler Hamazu gets townread wants to coordinate sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt wants to make LT squirm scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now Who do you want to kill I can't tell from this post
Currently Wave. I can handily settle for BM or hopeless, if hopeless doesn't keep his promise to start playing. The others would be borderline policy lynches, but from best lynch to worst: Tube > Koshi > Hamazu > LT > Vivax = Rels = GB
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On October 21 2016 21:19 ptmc wrote: This is my second game, i played in the last newbie game. The reads for low content could easily change, if good content comes from those players. Anything specific you disagree with?
Holy shit, I'm not sure how I forgot you were in that game. Guess it's just been awhile.
Humm, you were a pretty easy townread in that game but not really here. Still I guess the stuff that bugged me early on makes a bit more sense now.
I'll look at your list post again later in some detail, but def don't want to lynch you anymore.
I think that list post shows you are making some decent effort and I recall you doing something like it in the last game too. Even without that I'm pretty confident you'll be really easy to read given a bit more time.
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On October 21 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote: Currently still on p 58. Progress is slow.
So Koshi have you decided to become "productive"?
I'd have to see you catch a scum to believe you.
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On October 21 2016 21:20 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 21:05 ptmc wrote: and do we even know how many mafia there are? No we don't. Best guess (imo) is 2 teams of 3, but could maybe be like 4 scum, 2 "neutral" (creeps?) or something. Given 24 players I think ~6 scum is reasonable.
It's obvious the scum team is 5 players. One for each position in a dota team.
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Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case.
##unvote ##vote Hopeless1der
p60 atm
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On October 21 2016 14:39 Tubesock wrote:GB, I get using hte meta bit, but don't you think it's probably obsolete now? Is there anything else Ritoky is doing that you think is scummy? I think Ritoky's post below explains the change well. Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 06:17 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 05:49 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread
And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason
Carry on everybody If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be? Hey HF, is this a scum post? I don't indulge crappy games. Ritoky drops townreads has no real drive to lynch people properly, hedges at every point and asks questions with no real follow up and doesn't seemingly care about answers. No gifs still either. Lynch plz. And yet a call to engage a seemingly disinterested waveofshadow to pay attention to the game? Fuck your meta right in the ear, good sir, because for now I'm not voting him. Will you be around later? Like...3h ish? I want to engage with someone fun. It's 90% in game posts wtf are you talking about? Aren't you calling him scum based on how different from usual his gifs and tryahrdiness and shit is? Or am I misunderstanding? Also Kurumi why am I a cow now and not a king? Can I be the cow king? Mooooooooooo He's saying I am different and not having fun, which historically indicates I am mafia. Which is a fine enough read, but wrong. Mostly because I haven't played in over 6 months so I assume I am different, and I am not particularly enjoying playing. What do you think of Tictock, Stynx, Rels, or Haz Taco Bell?
That's why I said it's more of a voteholder than anything else
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On October 21 2016 14:51 WaveofShadow wrote: Two things:
Regardless of who came up with it, I like the KP stacking idea. It could very well be useful for scum but it's going to be useful for us too so I'm not looking too deeply at the fact that you came up with it SL, sorry. But you shouldn't be too worried anyway, which leads me to my second point:
Why are none of you voting for mtpc right now?
Seems like pretty clear scum atm.
If you guys want to shoot someone, shoot into my list. I'll even put an order of priority: Lord Tolk >> Glowingbear >> sicklucker
SL maybe you come off the list later today. We'll see what chhhhhappens
Why do you want to shoot me?
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