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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 21 2016 11:38 GMT
#1241
only one of those is actually objectionable but you get the point
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 21 2016 11:39 GMT
#1242
520 unread messages. Joy. Hopefully I read many yesterday already.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 21 2016 11:41 GMT
#1243
On October 21 2016 08:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Koshi is coming across as genuine to me. I don't think hes mafia . Pretty strong town read on him actually so I think lunatics looking in the wrong direction

Goddamn this makes my day a lot happier instantly.
I had a good night of sleep.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 21 2016 11:43 GMT
#1244
call me stubborn but i still like hopeless' read progression on exo and his approach of ricooty
yeah its pretty meh since its just early stuff, but being who he is we wont really get more to go on.

wouldnt lynch, wouldnt shoot him myself. but would also not stop anybody from doing so, im not his momma after all (and that i could be wrong but largely i just didnt give birth to him)
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18445 Posts
October 21 2016 11:45 GMT
#1245
On October 21 2016 20:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
skynx, i just dunno man

he blatantly kind-of-soft-defends koshi, and it actually looks shitty enough that i think he's serious about it
i dont like that he thinks iamps filter has nothing
i dont like that his problem with tubesocks reads are that they "come out of nowhere" (#871 cant link deal w/ it), and not the content (i remind that two of the three were essentially 'exo for what other people said' and 'wave for tone'), or even the fact that they're just TRs.
i dont mind the LT read actually
i dont like the thread policing, but maybe thats meta nowadays, lots of newbies i dont reckognize do it so w/e take it or leave it.

just post way more so i can make up my mind kthx

Oh man. You see, lurking works. I totally forgot that shit was in the game. Add him to the list of loonie, gb, hazbro, vivax and tubesock. Man, town lurkies need to step it up, because all of those look like shit atm, and they can't all be scum. Right?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 21 2016 11:46 GMT
#1246
On October 21 2016 08:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
can someone explain scum!koshi meta, or point me to which games I ought to be concerned with?

Palmar Themed Game
And then the last 2 minis that weren't newbies, both hosted by btdt.

Also the last 3 games I played. Also the reason why btdt and Luna got a thing for me now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18445 Posts
October 21 2016 11:48 GMT
#1247
On October 21 2016 20:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 08:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
can someone explain scum!koshi meta, or point me to which games I ought to be concerned with?

Palmar Themed Game
And then the last 2 minis that weren't newbies, both hosted by btdt.

Also the last 3 games I played. Also the reason why btdt and Luna got a thing for me now.

Lets try this. Luna and btdt are both triggered by you playing the same style. How about you tell me how your style is different today, and then I will go figure out who I agree with?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 21 2016 11:48 GMT
#1248
On October 21 2016 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
only one of those is actually objectionable but you get the point

I'm gonna take a stance here and say never lynch Dandel all game.

Even if your activity falls off and you switch into scum mode the sheer effort and activity you've put in here is so far beyond anything I've seen you do you can just have the win :D
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 21 2016 11:49 GMT
#1249
leaving in half an hour or so (but realistically now since i need to get stuff rdy), should be back ~2 hours before deadline

I support acro's list +exo +skynx -hopeless
if you have questions for me i'll still answer for a bit but otherwise im donezo
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 21 2016 11:51 GMT
#1250
basically ill lynch anyone with an x in their name
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 21 2016 11:57 GMT
#1251
Ticktock:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hopeless' arguing feels town
Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave
Wave's arguing feels town
Iam feels scum
likes BM's post about Wave/Exo
dislikes HF
dislikes me for my post on Wave
likes Acro
dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts
says it is normal to not like sicklucker

Basically only productive posts. Town.


Rels:
has done nothing.
Lurker -> Null

Vivax:
has done nothing.
Lurker -> Null

HF:
+ Show Spoiler +
votes ritoky for meta-reads
dislikes coordinated attacks
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk
wary of wave, since he is only coasting
dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM
dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded
Thinks Skynx has a shit filter
Thinks lunatics filter is scummy
thinks i'm on point
thinks ritoky hedges a lot
dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky
dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post

productive -> town

Skynx:
+ Show Spoiler +
Starts really weak, but then shapes up:
dislikes Tubesock and BM
dislikes LT
pressure on lurkers

still not a lot, but towny

Iamp:
+ Show Spoiler +
needs a healer
wants to coordinate
slightly town on ritoky
townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt
thinks acro is bad tho
thinks koshi could be town for tone
dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it
dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him
agrees with HF's assessment of BM

Lists all his reads, null:
Tubesock, no interactions with the thread
Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts
Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me"
Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now"
BM, doesn't want to read his filter
Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr
Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does
me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum
scum:
GB: scum, doesn't do anything
LT, lurker with only trash posts
Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia
Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel
lurker:
Eversince, Vivax, Rels

Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB

Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again
Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel

good read-progression, solid reads imo. town.

Sicklucker:
+ Show Spoiler +
claims Bloodseeker
wants coordination
HF leans town
Acro is mafia (soul reading)
dislikes GB
not sold wave is town
iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf
now does not want to stack kp

unsure -> null

btdt:
+ Show Spoiler +
Exo's post on Wave feels towny
Dandel is only posting shit, votes him
likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy)
Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum
tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone
scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm
starts to push koshi instead
votes koshi

list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy
Maybe Dandel

calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive
Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense
dandel sucks again
sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead.
Says BM's weird posts fit his meta
back to disliking Wave for dodging questions

very productive, sticks to his reads -> town

Exo:
+ Show Spoiler +
Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle
dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim
Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel
slight town lean on ritoky

not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean

Lunatic:
+ Show Spoiler +
Koshi is "obviously" scum
does not want to clutter the thread
btdt gets a tone town read
not sure on HF
gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi

I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean

Hamazura:
+ Show Spoiler +
Dislikes Dandel for shitposting
Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"

very little productivity -> scum lean

Tubesock:
+ Show Spoiler +
Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch
dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity
unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate
asks people for their reads
might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi
hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive

nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean

BM:
+ Show Spoiler +
Kurumi is trolling
shitposts for days
gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong)
Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking
dislikes Hopeless
Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel
Scum: WoS, hopeless
Wave has provided enough to unvote
likes tubesock
likes lunatic
thinks koshi is genuine
votes HF
posts self meta as to why he is not mafia
ticktock is mafia
is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF
likes Ticktock

I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum

Acro:
+ Show Spoiler +
joke-votes Skynx?
votes Iamp for role-fishing
slight tr on exo, null o Wave
wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed
scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town
thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt
calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote
calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein
He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan
unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later
Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?

List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi,
on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt
Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)

Wants to ignore BM
New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing
LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list

rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker
still thinks i am a good lynch

Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town

Koshi:
starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493
nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean

Eversince:
afk -> null

Kurumi:
his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean

ritoky:
+ Show Spoiler +
likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing
exo tentatively town
Wave tentatively town
likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel
also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel
GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF
gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)

productive -> town lean

Hopeless:
+ Show Spoiler +
omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers
Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow?
dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo
tries to get exo out of his tunnel

little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today

Dandel:
+ Show Spoiler +
claims Techies
reads iamp town because he is funny
gets called out for shitposting by btdt
thinks exo is scum
I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it
dislikes Vivax

should be town

Wave:
+ Show Spoiler +
(disregarding his "claim" post)
doubts Dandel is scum
suspicious of btdt
Acro and Kurumi are town
lot of filler
Hamazu gets townread
wants to coordinate
sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt
wants to make LT squirm
scumreads me for voting for him

Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean

GB:
HF and Acro might be town
votes ritoky as placeholder

useless lurk -> scum lean

LT:
wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before
wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam

useless lurk -> scum lean


Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 21 2016 11:57 GMT
#1252
YAY I'm caught up!

Still think ptmc is a solid lynch, but Vivax is pretty good too. Actually Vivax might be better kus he clearly picked Rels due to him only having one post which means he's at least put some effort into reading the game but that's all he's got is "lynch Rels" and easy townreads.

Speaking of Rels... not sure what to do with him. He is a pretty capable player as either alignment so him making that one throwaway post is pretty odd. Was gunna say something about expecting him to replace out if he was town and has no time to play, but then I realized that might be even more true if he was scum... Yea idk what I want to do with his slot.

Still think the stuff between Rit and HF is weird. Besides the stuff I said about Rit earlier I'm pretty inclined to townread him though, whereas nothing I've seen from HF makes me think he is town. Which brings me back to Kurumi (I think I spelled his name right) and his weird hard-on for HF. I'm not sure scum makes all those wierd list posts though.

Still want to review Iam. Everything I've seen from him is well within standard scum play imo and despite liking his posting more as time goes on I can't shake my initial impression.

LT is another person I'm considering as scum. I don't think he's really said anything other than "fuck the people I don't know" to which I respond "well fuck you too"

Oh and Koshi, can't forget Koshi. I'm really far from townreading Koshi i just want to lynch other people more... which honestly probably means Koshi is scum. Like that feeling is pretty much exactly why he's skated by his last few scum games.
I can take that responsibility.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 21 2016 11:58 GMT
#1253
Lynch the above
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 21 2016 11:59 GMT
#1254
Damn that was supposed to come after ptmc
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 21 2016 12:00 GMT
#1255
On October 21 2016 20:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
fucking ebwop
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote:
Kurumi- i dont understand this kid. I dont like the way he plays i dont like his list i dont like the self post for no reason i dont even like his name. but on reread seems to be confident he wont be lynched post 1009 he might be trying to figure things out i guess. ill put as null and unvote. Noithing he does makes sense to me though.


Skynx- scum read. Posting stuff but does not seem in my view to be trying to kill mafia. Example post 868 throws some shade on me but does nothing with it.

ExO_- something about his tone just seems unatural to me. Post 368 for example does come across to me as genuine. Literally the only thing in his filter talks about wos and could be that thing were scum catch a mistake by town try to make it scummy and focus on it entirely. Post 420 is bad after some time brings nothing to the table and then later on just talks about wave again. votes for dandel but dosent seem interested in actually killing and talks about wave more

not like the content of the list or just that he posts lists?

i should read skynx filter im just writing this to remind myself

agreed on exo, hes like a btnd without the redeeming activity, but at least with less spamming. 'go down list of scumtells, push those scumtells, ignore everything else'
bookkeepers, man


Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also iamp you are like...opposite to me on so many reads.
I don't know why you think any of BTDT's activity makes him top town.
He is literally playing the easiest way for a newer player to do so as either alignment, and that's the way you're 'supposed to.'

its the easiest way, but it's still more effort than most noob scums put into scummering. i'm kinda just sitting here waiting if he can keep it up. if he drops we can revisit him but until then im not really concerned. just annoyed.

Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote:
It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.

If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy.

post your spreadsheet

Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia.

do what i did

I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date.

I'd be happy with lynching any of the following:

Lunaticman
Glowingbear
Hazura Tako bell
Tubesock

All for being useless lurkers.

Would also lynch

Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure
Ptmc: blending

this sounds pretty good.
ptmc coming in when called out, just defending himself, leaving. (sorry there was also a post purely about game mechanics) the defense itself was fine actually but i still dont like the whole package. i backed off to give him room to do his thing, and no thing was done feels bad man

Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs

that's the part that made you feel town?
uh ok.


Hey, i said i would do stuff today
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 21 2016 12:00 GMT
#1256
Lol ptmc you should count your scum team there
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 21 2016 12:01 GMT
#1257
On October 21 2016 21:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol ptmc you should count your scum team there


yeah, having a solid scum team day 1 is always a good idea
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 21 2016 12:05 GMT
#1258
and do we even know how many mafia there are?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 21 2016 12:07 GMT
#1259
On October 21 2016 20:45 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 20:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
skynx, i just dunno man

he blatantly kind-of-soft-defends koshi, and it actually looks shitty enough that i think he's serious about it
i dont like that he thinks iamps filter has nothing
i dont like that his problem with tubesocks reads are that they "come out of nowhere" (#871 cant link deal w/ it), and not the content (i remind that two of the three were essentially 'exo for what other people said' and 'wave for tone'), or even the fact that they're just TRs.
i dont mind the LT read actually
i dont like the thread policing, but maybe thats meta nowadays, lots of newbies i dont reckognize do it so w/e take it or leave it.

just post way more so i can make up my mind kthx

Oh man. You see, lurking works. I totally forgot that shit was in the game. Add him to the list of loonie, gb, hazbro, vivax and tubesock. Man, town lurkies need to step it up, because all of those look like shit atm, and they can't all be scum. Right?


Given recent games... they could all actually be town. For some reason town has been slacking on this site lately and handing mafia easy wins.

Still gotta deal with them somehow though which is pretty shitty if they do turn out to be town.

I feel pretty good about Hama's posts though, and possibly Tube's as well. You can still read low volume people imo, though it prob requires more effort than it's worth sometimes. Besides not posting much is there anything that actually strikes you as scummy about them?

I kinda hate to admit that I kinda read GB as town as well, it's mostly meta though so pretty shit.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 21 2016 12:17 GMT
#1260
humm, need to mull over that big list post from ptmc

was actually gunna take a break here anyways.

Initial reaction is kinda meh. On the one hand that's a decent bit of effort to put that post together and track what people have been doing. On the other he's really only rating people by how "productive" they are which essentially means low posters = scum.

Ehh thats not really fair there is a bit more going on in those reads, I guess I'm just not agreeing with some of them. Will come back to this.

In the meantime, @ptmc:

Have you played on this site before? or anywhere else?
I can take that responsibility.
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