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DC have a fair chance being scum. His filter have almost no content BUT all of his big posts are made to feel like they actually have content. A recurring theme these these big posts is "INACTIVE IS DIFFERENT FROM SCUMMY". Look, it comes back very often:
On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game. OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game. Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up. I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh. At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning. I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town.
This one doesn't even address the problematic, since Tumble was not attacking Luna and EC for making joke post, but for making "fake contributory" posts.
On July 21 2016 02:15 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 01:58 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 01:38 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 01:35 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 01:25 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 01:19 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 01:14 Lunaticman wrote:
There is a worrying amount of silent players what do you mean by this? who is silent and why is that worrying? I just think the silent mafia is the hardest mafia to beat! They will probably post when I am asleep. But we still need more "reads" why do you think silent mafia are harder to beat? what makes you think they will post when you're asleep when they're not posting now? Because it turns into a guessing game, you should know this. Because they might be on different time zones. Hence my earlier question to americans. but the OP says 10 posts or you're dead so people will post or they will die. problem solved. also, if they don't post because they're in another timezone then time will pass and suddenly they will start posting so it seems like problem will solve itself again. dunno why it's so worrying. and no, i don't know that lurking scum are more worrying. i think active scum are just as worrying because sometimes they turn out to be impossible to kill. maybe because i just played with damdred and he was reasonably active scum and impossible to kill and i didn't realize this until it was too late. This makes sense. Damdred totally fooled me last 2 games as active Mafia. Also, the rules of the game should have people posting when they are awake and able, so it is quite premature to worry about activity, we should be looking at the tone, content, purpose, etc... of what people are posting when they start posting. Noting the people that haven't posted yet is good, not bad, since it will encourages them to post. But, it doesn't mean that they are scum.
Useless.
On July 21 2016 03:45 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:
My gut is telling me;
Town:
emperorchampion
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
Prplhz
There might be one mafia in there of course, it is to early to say,
A bit scummy:
Skynx
Gracaroni
Kruppe the eel
Palmar
The rest are blanks for me.
DCWasabi
sicklucker
nnn_thekushmountains
How are you reading Kruppe the eel and Palmar as scummy when they haven't posted anything yet. They should be null. What makes you think that they are scummy?
On July 21 2016 03:51 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:47 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:
My gut is telling me;
Town:
emperorchampion
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
Prplhz
There might be one mafia in there of course, it is to early to say,
A bit scummy:
Skynx
Gracaroni
Kruppe the eel
Palmar
The rest are blanks for me.
DCWasabi
sicklucker
nnn_thekushmountains
How are you reading Kruppe the eel and Palmar as scummy when they haven't posted anything yet. They should be null. What makes you think that they are scummy? They havent posted yet. That doesn't mean they are Mafia, it just means they are inactive. We could Policy Lynch for inactivity, or we can Lynch somebody we actually are reading as mafia. If they don't get active before the deadline, then host action will take place based on OP. If they wait till the deadline, then post low-content / meaningless things, then we can lynch them on D2 if we think they are Mafia lurking in the shadows. We do want them to be more active, but we don't want to derail the thread throwing darts at empty space.
Useless question to luna + a big post based on luna's answer, yet no conclusion on luna. I don't know what was the point of his question. Pointless questions are a good way to "participate" for scum.
On July 21 2016 04:56 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
Is this 1920's Chicago, or something? No way there are that many Mafia. On a more serious note, I'm going to go Full-Sherlock here and determine that you are Null or Town reading: 3) Skynx 4) Lunaticman 5) emperorchampion 10) Tumblewood yourself Can you post some reasons?
On July 21 2016 04:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:56 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
Is this 1920's Chicago, or something? No way there are that many Mafia. On a more serious note, I'm going to go Full-Sherlock here and determine that you are Null or Town reading: 3) Skynx 4) Lunaticman 5) emperorchampion 10) Tumblewood yourself Can you post some reasons? yes I can but I won't because that would take effort and not be that fun.
No reaction on kush answer.
He is a good lynch
I'll read some other filters to see if I prefer someone else. But he is a good lynch.
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On July 22 2016 04:39 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:36 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 04:35 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:08 Koshi wrote:I have actually a good reason why Palmar is town: On July 21 2016 04:15 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:02 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:01 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 03:57 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:
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I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange.
I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I dunno if this makes sense. Why would you vote for a town person? Also I am far from fighting for my life. I am "defending" my self from tumble because his arguments are so weak, they are leading me to think that he might be scum. Voting for people is a common tactic this generates pressure which generates misstakes, you can switch your vote anytime unless I am missing something. Go forth and make mistakes my friend Maybe you should give us a list of our reads so far and some thoughts. You have been chilling far to much. ok. 100% town - aka never lynching.Prplhz Skynx Likely town:Tumblewood emperorchampion Rels Null, no reason to lynch but no real reason to townreadPalmar DCWasabi Koshi Gracaroni null, possibly scum because I haven't really noticed themnnn_thekushmountains Lunaticman Scummy/possibly mafiasicklucker Kruppe the eel The (better) townreads in this list were really fast and on point. prplhz, EC and Skynx. Would be bad play if Palmar is mafia. Well... Not bad play, but it would hurt mafia agenda. How did you end up townreading Palmar based off a list that was randomly generated? He even put himself as null, but I figured it was a non-role pm reading thing. how the fuck was I supposed to know it was rng? The reasoning is literally in the fucking post you quoted. Seems like a buddying attempt. On a separate note I don't really understood why everyone is townreading prplhz.
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I was saying that Palmar was mafia. And then when I made that post I said:
I have 1 reason to townread Palmar. And that was it.
Also. If you both think it is more likely it is scum!Koshi and town!Palmar instead of the very likely town!Koshi and scum!Palmar I have really no words.
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Koshi explain to me how Kruppe is different from last game.
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On July 22 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain to me how Kruppe is different from last game.
Try to read his first page. See how he formulates his posts around Vivax and Snickers. Free information pushed in the game.
This game there is only secrecy and roleplay. If we want any information we have to drag it out of him. Also the information post he made felt like something he had to make to get people to back off. While in the other game he made posts because he wanted to solve the game.
It is very obvious.
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On July 22 2016 04:47 prplhz wrote:
when is deadline
In 2h10
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On July 22 2016 04:28 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:16 Lunaticman wrote:On July 22 2016 04:14 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:On July 22 2016 04:10 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 04:09 Lunaticman wrote:On July 22 2016 04:06 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 04:04 Lunaticman wrote:
Was Haze fake claiming role too? likely I think that entire sequence was very weird. I think either palmar or Haze must be scum based on it. I just wish I was vigilante so I could do it myself. Bro (/girl) it was a joke 50% of Palmars posts qualify as "joke" or "troll" to me it just look like a scum with nowhere to hide. It is non alignment indicative (NAI) for him. So hes just a douche? Actually I'm like the nicest guy. Really Like soft and fluffy and fun.
I forgive you, but please just take a chill pill your trolling is to deep for me.
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On July 22 2016 04:34 Koshi wrote:
You know what the problem is with rabbits? When you pet them they kinda shrink and don't make a noise. Only their little nose goes up and down. You really don't know if they like it or are just too petrified to run away.
AHAHA this is so true I have a rabbit and I know exactly what you are talking about.
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kush could be anything. I have ONE reason to think he might be town but it is very very bad. So bad I'm afraid saying it.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 21 2016 12:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Actually I rethought this and I'm not confident about those two even. So I'm just going to vote for SL.
CASE AGAINST SL
SL has never been mislynched. So lynching him is a win-win situation for us.
Either he's scum, or he's town and we shit all over his streak.
##vote SL I also think like this often as town to try and solve the game.
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On July 22 2016 04:50 Rels wrote:kush could be anything. I have ONE reason to think he might be town but it is very very bad. So bad I'm afraid saying it. + Show Spoiler +On July 21 2016 12:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Actually I rethought this and I'm not confident about those two even. So I'm just going to vote for SL.
CASE AGAINST SL
SL has never been mislynched. So lynching him is a win-win situation for us.
Either he's scum, or he's town and we shit all over his streak.
##vote SL I also think like this often as town to try and solve the game.
Agreed. That is quite bad. ^ _ ^
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Has Rels played a lot of mafia?
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On July 22 2016 04:47 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain to me how Kruppe is different from last game. Try to read his first page. See how he formulates his posts around Vivax and Snickers. Free information pushed in the game. This game there is only secrecy and roleplay. If we want any information we have to drag it out of him. Also the information post he made felt like something he had to make to get people to back off. While in the other game he made posts because he wanted to solve the game. It is very obvious.
Explain to me then because for me it is kinda the same thing. Like his last big post:
On July 22 2016 01:56 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Aaai! Do not lynch me friends, Kruppe is most innocent! Kruppe solemnly swears!
Kruppe will be most preoccupied due the heat. It is current much too warm to plan a party of friends!
Some ponderings from friendly Kruppe:
Koshi's heart is in the right place. Alas, his mind is not.
Rels' envelope may have been delivered a bit too early. Kruppe observes that Rels' traitorous traits are denoted by a serious tone! Something Rels' lacked when Kruppe had the envelope delivered —worry not friends, Kruppe has many ways to switch its contents!—. Kruppe now ponders on Rels yet is not convinced of either his maliciousness or his innocence yet!
Both Skynx and EmperorChampion should know better! They have observed Kruppe's craftsmanship before! Yet they are firmly opposing Kruppe's party. Ludicrousness!
Kruppe yet ponders more on EmperorChampion. A glimpse of (genuine?) intelligence was observed —by none other than Kruppe himself!— when talking about poor, innocent Kruppe. Yet when confronted by Koshi's plain views, he simply fell back into the herd. For shame!
Traitorous Skynx should know better for certain! Kruppe expects Skynx to have deeper opinions other than defaulting on the mystery behind poorest Kruppe. Something he has even struggled with before! Most recently! Maliciousness indeed.
Kush's opinion is sharp, yet Kruppe argues that his opinion may be driven by a (nefarious?) agenda! Envelopes pending!
Palmar is bedridden. Yet a lazy man is easily underestimated. Kruppe gives a small nod towards Palmar. May he receive his envelope shortly.
He scumread me before but now it's more like null.
Skynx and EC are suspicious for
So he's clearly stating his rea
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Case on DCwasabi isn't too bad. It basically just sumarizes that he posted a lot during the early game when nothing important was happening and has been missing recently.
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I'd be fine lynching Kruppe, Palmar. The others are honestly null reads to me so far.
I could also condone something like: DCWasabi, Prplhz, sicklucker, nnn,thekushmountains.
To me Rels reads like town to much, if he is mafia he sure is fooling me.
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Posted before finishing it but you get what I mean
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On July 22 2016 04:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Has Rels played a lot of mafia?
Click on my profile.
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On July 22 2016 04:54 Lunaticman wrote:
I'd be fine lynching Kruppe, Palmar. The others are honestly null reads to me so far.
I could also condone something like: DCWasabi, Prplhz, sicklucker, nnn,thekushmountains.
To me Rels reads like town to much, if he is mafia he sure is fooling me.
Palmar might be town. Kruppe I'm not sure but I'm not seeing the scuminess. kush could be anything but I dont' really want to lynch him today because he usually stays AFK for long periods of time as scum, he's kinda easy to read the later the game goes. SL I forgot he was in the game, but him not doing anything D1 is possible for any alignment, so a lynch on him would be a pure policy. I want to read his filter before ruling him out but since I don't remember anything he's said I don't think I'll find anything interesting.
It's probably gonna be between DC and PRP.
And no worries about me I'm town.
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On July 22 2016 04:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:47 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain to me how Kruppe is different from last game. Try to read his first page. See how he formulates his posts around Vivax and Snickers. Free information pushed in the game. This game there is only secrecy and roleplay. If we want any information we have to drag it out of him. Also the information post he made felt like something he had to make to get people to back off. While in the other game he made posts because he wanted to solve the game. It is very obvious. Explain to me then because for me it is kinda the same thing. Like his last big post: Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 01:56 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Aaai! Do not lynch me friends, Kruppe is most innocent! Kruppe solemnly swears!
Kruppe will be most preoccupied due the heat. It is current much too warm to plan a party of friends!
Some ponderings from friendly Kruppe:
Koshi's heart is in the right place. Alas, his mind is not.
Rels' envelope may have been delivered a bit too early. Kruppe observes that Rels' traitorous traits are denoted by a serious tone! Something Rels' lacked when Kruppe had the envelope delivered —worry not friends, Kruppe has many ways to switch its contents!—. Kruppe now ponders on Rels yet is not convinced of either his maliciousness or his innocence yet!
Both Skynx and EmperorChampion should know better! They have observed Kruppe's craftsmanship before! Yet they are firmly opposing Kruppe's party. Ludicrousness!
Kruppe yet ponders more on EmperorChampion. A glimpse of (genuine?) intelligence was observed —by none other than Kruppe himself!— when talking about poor, innocent Kruppe. Yet when confronted by Koshi's plain views, he simply fell back into the herd. For shame!
Traitorous Skynx should know better for certain! Kruppe expects Skynx to have deeper opinions other than defaulting on the mystery behind poorest Kruppe. Something he has even struggled with before! Most recently! Maliciousness indeed.
Kush's opinion is sharp, yet Kruppe argues that his opinion may be driven by a (nefarious?) agenda! Envelopes pending!
Palmar is bedridden. Yet a lazy man is easily underestimated. Kruppe gives a small nod towards Palmar. May he receive his envelope shortly. He scumread me before but now it's more like null. Skynx and EC are suspicious for So he's clearly stating his rea
If you don't want to see the obvious there is no way I can help you.
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