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JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 15:42 GMT
#1881
At least that is what I am thinking of right now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 15:51 GMT
#1882
On April 23 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
I just clicked your filter. Quicker that way
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this)


I don't think you reevaluated Tubme with the infos of the flip. You said he "still felt like crap" then that he was "maybe town" if I didn't miss anything. What did you expect from Superbia's flip ? Did that actually change your read or not ?

In short, it mostly has to do with his interactions with super D1. A flip (with Role) helps me see his things. Thought, tbh, I kinda didn't do that with the "maybe town post".

It had to do with the survival vote idea also. As if he (super) was Rb (A valuable role, with 2 active roles in the game) it is more of a vote for survival for his team, then himself. I thought it would make him scum, as it breaks his survival vote, and a RB getting lynched would explain it. Yet he was against Super early on, and he was really actually deadset on a vig shot on super. On his first what? 5 posts in he said he wanted super to get shot. The post about it came roughly half way through the day, and super wasn't certain to get lynch (AKA, the claim idea prob. wasn't sparked) yet. Therefore, calling for a shot on him that early on seems off.

This post also seems weird from a Scum mindset (I missed it.)
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
rels still picking the low-hanging fruit
didn't jat SR sicklucker a while back? i thought that was a pretty good read
rsoul you have some important questions to answer

protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town

Kinda removes the option to live past Day 3 if he is scum. Especially after the claim later, which would take up another day at least. (And potentially 2, if CC happen, and we lynched CC) he basically put himself in a horrible situation.

Eh, I thought it was a bit weird also he was scum to put him into a position where he literary have no scum reads other than me + the clueless tone a bit.

His dissapence though kinda got me worried a way. Though, even when tumble was getting bussed by me in XIX (when he was dying/scum read), IIRC, he was still posting and contributing.

This first thing about him scumreading / calling for a vig shot on Superbie means nothing. It's not hard for partners to distance themselves. And while scumreading Superbia he attacked rsoul at the same time for her read on Superbia:
On April 21 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

Partner indicator right there.
The rsoul read was:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
slight preference for superbia because i can see fazer just not knowing what to do in his first game. obviously this could come from first-time scum just as easily but yeah...superbia's drive-by not gonna post bit seems like it could come from burn-out...at the very least unless he's just not gonna be back for deadline there's no need to even post the excuse in the first place

Which is a reasonnable and not-so-strong read. It didn't deserve that attack from Tumble quoted above.

This is illogical.
THEN, when the things really mattered IE at deadline EOD1, he didn't vote Superbia when (1) he scumread him and (2) it would have been helped him survive over Superbia. So his stance does not match his actions.
About the LYLO comment, saying WIFOM stuff like this is totally NAI.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 15:52 GMT
#1883
The series of posts the "vig shot" comment is part of is really hypocritical:
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

On April 16 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:
where I'm at right now:

null
most people

don't want to lynch
gumshoe because innocent town
rels because actually trying
ows because actually trying
palmar because in Devil I lynched him day 1 and I never got to play with him

could lynch today
rsoul because all her answers are kind of meh
superbia because AFK; prefer vig shot

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 15:58 GMT
#1884
Anyway leaving work. I will be in a train going to the South of France during deadline so I'll try to phonepost but no garantee! See ya
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 16:00 GMT
#1885
On April 23 2016 00:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
I just clicked your filter. Quicker that way
On April 22 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this)


I don't think you reevaluated Tubme with the infos of the flip. You said he "still felt like crap" then that he was "maybe town" if I didn't miss anything. What did you expect from Superbia's flip ? Did that actually change your read or not ?

In short, it mostly has to do with his interactions with super D1. A flip (with Role) helps me see his things. Thought, tbh, I kinda didn't do that with the "maybe town post".

It had to do with the survival vote idea also. As if he (super) was Rb (A valuable role, with 2 active roles in the game) it is more of a vote for survival for his team, then himself. I thought it would make him scum, as it breaks his survival vote, and a RB getting lynched would explain it. Yet he was against Super early on, and he was really actually deadset on a vig shot on super. On his first what? 5 posts in he said he wanted super to get shot. The post about it came roughly half way through the day, and super wasn't certain to get lynch (AKA, the claim idea prob. wasn't sparked) yet. Therefore, calling for a shot on him that early on seems off.

This post also seems weird from a Scum mindset (I missed it.)
On April 17 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
rels still picking the low-hanging fruit
didn't jat SR sicklucker a while back? i thought that was a pretty good read
rsoul you have some important questions to answer

protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town

Kinda removes the option to live past Day 3 if he is scum. Especially after the claim later, which would take up another day at least. (And potentially 2, if CC happen, and we lynched CC) he basically put himself in a horrible situation.

Eh, I thought it was a bit weird also he was scum to put him into a position where he literary have no scum reads other than me + the clueless tone a bit.

His dissapence though kinda got me worried a way. Though, even when tumble was getting bussed by me in XIX (when he was dying/scum read), IIRC, he was still posting and contributing.

This first thing about him scumreading / calling for a vig shot on Superbie means nothing. It's not hard for partners to distance themselves. And while scumreading Superbia he attacked rsoul at the same time for her read on Superbia:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

Partner indicator right there.
The rsoul read was:
On April 16 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
slight preference for superbia because i can see fazer just not knowing what to do in his first game. obviously this could come from first-time scum just as easily but yeah...superbia's drive-by not gonna post bit seems like it could come from burn-out...at the very least unless he's just not gonna be back for deadline there's no need to even post the excuse in the first place

Which is a reasonnable and not-so-strong read. It didn't deserve that attack from Tumble quoted above.

This is illogical.
THEN, when the things really mattered IE at deadline EOD1, he didn't vote Superbia when (1) he scumread him and (2) it would have been helped him survive over Superbia. So his stance does not match his actions.
About the LYLO comment, saying WIFOM stuff like this is totally NAI.

It could be distancing yes, but this is a open set up, so calling for a shot on your RB who already is slightly sus. really makes not a lot of sense to me. But, your right about that (bolded part). The stance really doesn't line up like I thought it did after looking at it again.

I actually just remember that he survived also to Day 4 in storm as well. Actually hilariously enough, I think he only has been lynched D3 as scum. I think devil was day 4.
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 16:24 GMT
#1886
On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede

Blah, I would of already concede if my partner is tumble and I am scum here.

Anyways, back at Rels.

I still ponder though about the night kill tho. Yes, Rsoul was onto him (if he is scum) yet, tumble was reading her as one of his 2 lynches. Everyone else was town in his eyes.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
April 22 2016 16:53 GMT
#1887
On April 23 2016 00:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
I just clicked your filter. Quicker that way
On April 22 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this)


I don't think you reevaluated Tubme with the infos of the flip. You said he "still felt like crap" then that he was "maybe town" if I didn't miss anything. What did you expect from Superbia's flip ? Did that actually change your read or not ?

In short, it mostly has to do with his interactions with super D1. A flip (with Role) helps me see his things. Thought, tbh, I kinda didn't do that with the "maybe town post".

It had to do with the survival vote idea also. As if he (super) was Rb (A valuable role, with 2 active roles in the game) it is more of a vote for survival for his team, then himself. I thought it would make him scum, as it breaks his survival vote, and a RB getting lynched would explain it. Yet he was against Super early on, and he was really actually deadset on a vig shot on super. On his first what? 5 posts in he said he wanted super to get shot. The post about it came roughly half way through the day, and super wasn't certain to get lynch (AKA, the claim idea prob. wasn't sparked) yet. Therefore, calling for a shot on him that early on seems off.

This post also seems weird from a Scum mindset (I missed it.)
On April 17 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
rels still picking the low-hanging fruit
didn't jat SR sicklucker a while back? i thought that was a pretty good read
rsoul you have some important questions to answer

protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town

Kinda removes the option to live past Day 3 if he is scum. Especially after the claim later, which would take up another day at least. (And potentially 2, if CC happen, and we lynched CC) he basically put himself in a horrible situation.

Eh, I thought it was a bit weird also he was scum to put him into a position where he literary have no scum reads other than me + the clueless tone a bit.

His dissapence though kinda got me worried a way. Though, even when tumble was getting bussed by me in XIX (when he was dying/scum read), IIRC, he was still posting and contributing.

This first thing about him scumreading / calling for a vig shot on Superbie means nothing. It's not hard for partners to distance themselves. And while scumreading Superbia he attacked rsoul at the same time for her read on Superbia:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

Partner indicator right there.
The rsoul read was:
On April 16 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
slight preference for superbia because i can see fazer just not knowing what to do in his first game. obviously this could come from first-time scum just as easily but yeah...superbia's drive-by not gonna post bit seems like it could come from burn-out...at the very least unless he's just not gonna be back for deadline there's no need to even post the excuse in the first place

Which is a reasonnable and not-so-strong read. It didn't deserve that attack from Tumble quoted above.

This is illogical.
THEN, when the things really mattered IE at deadline EOD1, he didn't vote Superbia when (1) he scumread him and (2) it would have been helped him survive over Superbia. So his stance does not match his actions.
About the LYLO comment, saying WIFOM stuff like this is totally NAI.

This is a good post.
Also the "I usually don't survive" thing is more a "I am lynchbait" comment and serves to make people think of him like that which makes sense regardless of his alignment. Probably more for mafia though.
On April 23 2016 01:24 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede

Blah, I would of already concede if my partner is tumble and I am scum here.

Anyways, back at Rels.

I still ponder though about the night kill tho. Yes, Rsoul was onto him (if he is scum) yet, tumble was reading her as one of his 2 lynches. Everyone else was town in his eyes.

The bolded is a lie. I am pretty sure you wouldn't.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 17:11 GMT
#1888
Jat, forgive me if I missed it but who do you have as scum? I'm assuming tumble/SL or some variant thereof, yes?
Retired.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 17:49 GMT
#1889
On April 23 2016 01:24 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede

Blah, I would of already concede if my partner is tumble and I am scum here.

Anyways, back at Rels.

I still ponder though about the night kill tho. Yes, Rsoul was onto him (if he is scum) yet, tumble was reading her as one of his 2 lynches. Everyone else was town in his eyes.

NKs are wifom and a read should not be based only on that. But even then, survival > logic. rsoul was pushing Tumble really strongly D2 & N2, it was her main scumread by a lot. I don't understand how you can think a rsoul kill is a town indicator for Tumble.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 17:51 GMT
#1890
On April 23 2016 01:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 00:51 Rels wrote:
On April 23 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
I just clicked your filter. Quicker that way
On April 22 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this)


I don't think you reevaluated Tubme with the infos of the flip. You said he "still felt like crap" then that he was "maybe town" if I didn't miss anything. What did you expect from Superbia's flip ? Did that actually change your read or not ?

In short, it mostly has to do with his interactions with super D1. A flip (with Role) helps me see his things. Thought, tbh, I kinda didn't do that with the "maybe town post".

It had to do with the survival vote idea also. As if he (super) was Rb (A valuable role, with 2 active roles in the game) it is more of a vote for survival for his team, then himself. I thought it would make him scum, as it breaks his survival vote, and a RB getting lynched would explain it. Yet he was against Super early on, and he was really actually deadset on a vig shot on super. On his first what? 5 posts in he said he wanted super to get shot. The post about it came roughly half way through the day, and super wasn't certain to get lynch (AKA, the claim idea prob. wasn't sparked) yet. Therefore, calling for a shot on him that early on seems off.

This post also seems weird from a Scum mindset (I missed it.)
On April 17 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
rels still picking the low-hanging fruit
didn't jat SR sicklucker a while back? i thought that was a pretty good read
rsoul you have some important questions to answer

protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town

Kinda removes the option to live past Day 3 if he is scum. Especially after the claim later, which would take up another day at least. (And potentially 2, if CC happen, and we lynched CC) he basically put himself in a horrible situation.

Eh, I thought it was a bit weird also he was scum to put him into a position where he literary have no scum reads other than me + the clueless tone a bit.

His dissapence though kinda got me worried a way. Though, even when tumble was getting bussed by me in XIX (when he was dying/scum read), IIRC, he was still posting and contributing.

This first thing about him scumreading / calling for a vig shot on Superbie means nothing. It's not hard for partners to distance themselves. And while scumreading Superbia he attacked rsoul at the same time for her read on Superbia:
On April 21 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

Partner indicator right there.
The rsoul read was:
On April 16 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
slight preference for superbia because i can see fazer just not knowing what to do in his first game. obviously this could come from first-time scum just as easily but yeah...superbia's drive-by not gonna post bit seems like it could come from burn-out...at the very least unless he's just not gonna be back for deadline there's no need to even post the excuse in the first place

Which is a reasonnable and not-so-strong read. It didn't deserve that attack from Tumble quoted above.

This is illogical.
THEN, when the things really mattered IE at deadline EOD1, he didn't vote Superbia when (1) he scumread him and (2) it would have been helped him survive over Superbia. So his stance does not match his actions.
About the LYLO comment, saying WIFOM stuff like this is totally NAI.

This is a good post.
Also the "I usually don't survive" thing is more a "I am lynchbait" comment and serves to make people think of him like that which makes sense regardless of his alignment. Probably more for mafia though.
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 01:24 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede

Blah, I would of already concede if my partner is tumble and I am scum here.

Anyways, back at Rels.

I still ponder though about the night kill tho. Yes, Rsoul was onto him (if he is scum) yet, tumble was reading her as one of his 2 lynches. Everyone else was town in his eyes.

The bolded is a lie. I am pretty sure you wouldn't.

The last line is super true. Shape, you are posting a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 17:52 GMT
#1891
On April 23 2016 02:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat, forgive me if I missed it but who do you have as scum? I'm assuming tumble/SL or some variant thereof, yes?

lol we're so lucky you're vig =D
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 22 2016 18:02 GMT
#1892
##vote jas

if were not killing onegu then I guess it's gotta be jas as I still have reservations about tumble and my sl theory is just flames now that obi is confirmed XD (god I hope hes not scum)

still sucks to leave him around but if thats a risk you guys wanna take then so be it / :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 22 2016 18:08 GMT
#1893
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.

He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.

grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
April 22 2016 18:09 GMT
#1894
On April 23 2016 02:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat, forgive me if I missed it but who do you have as scum? I'm assuming tumble/SL or some variant thereof, yes?

How in the world did you miss that? I want to lynch either shape or tumble. Maybe I could be convinced to kill Onegu.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 22 2016 18:18 GMT
#1895
On April 23 2016 03:08 gumshoe wrote:
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.

He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.

grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.




I use life excuses in town games, I am disabled and have a disabled son shit comes up. Like dont use meta, you are bad at it if you are town or you are just making up reads for the fun of it as scum. You have tried to make multiple meta reads on me this game going from town, to sucm to town to scum and it looks fake as hell to me that you actually believe these reads.

I havent fucked off I am around and plan on reading shit before deadline.

Also I have a very good track record as town of actually figuring the game out during lylo.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 22 2016 18:22 GMT
#1896
Also lol Obi Vig. Now I see what was so funny. Town pile check.
Try TL Mafia!!!
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 22 2016 18:28 GMT
#1897
On April 23 2016 03:18 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:08 gumshoe wrote:
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.

He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.

grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.




I use life excuses in town games, I am disabled and have a disabled son shit comes up. Like dont use meta, you are bad at it if you are town or you are just making up reads for the fun of it as scum. You have tried to make multiple meta reads on me this game going from town, to sucm to town to scum and it looks fake as hell to me that you actually believe these reads.

I havent fucked off I am around and plan on reading shit before deadline.

Also I have a very good track record as town of actually figuring the game out during lylo.

I don't know where your confidence comes from, but I just want to point out its a lot easier to solve Lylo when your are consistently the scummiest person there.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
April 22 2016 18:30 GMT
#1898
On April 23 2016 03:28 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:18 Onegu wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:08 gumshoe wrote:
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.

He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.

grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.




I use life excuses in town games, I am disabled and have a disabled son shit comes up. Like dont use meta, you are bad at it if you are town or you are just making up reads for the fun of it as scum. You have tried to make multiple meta reads on me this game going from town, to sucm to town to scum and it looks fake as hell to me that you actually believe these reads.

I havent fucked off I am around and plan on reading shit before deadline.

Also I have a very good track record as town of actually figuring the game out during lylo.

I don't know where your confidence comes from, but I just want to point out its a lot easier to solve Lylo when your are consistently the scummiest person there.

While this is true there is really no need for further arguments about things that aren't related to this game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 18:30 GMT
#1899
On April 23 2016 03:28 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:18 Onegu wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:08 gumshoe wrote:
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.

He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.

grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.




I use life excuses in town games, I am disabled and have a disabled son shit comes up. Like dont use meta, you are bad at it if you are town or you are just making up reads for the fun of it as scum. You have tried to make multiple meta reads on me this game going from town, to sucm to town to scum and it looks fake as hell to me that you actually believe these reads.

I havent fucked off I am around and plan on reading shit before deadline.

Also I have a very good track record as town of actually figuring the game out during lylo.

I don't know where your confidence comes from, but I just want to point out its a lot easier to solve Lylo when your are consistently the scummiest person there.

This is so fucking true
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
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April 22 2016 18:36 GMT
#1900
On April 23 2016 01:53 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 23 2016 00:51 Rels wrote:
On April 23 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
I just clicked your filter. Quicker that way
On April 22 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this)


I don't think you reevaluated Tubme with the infos of the flip. You said he "still felt like crap" then that he was "maybe town" if I didn't miss anything. What did you expect from Superbia's flip ? Did that actually change your read or not ?

In short, it mostly has to do with his interactions with super D1. A flip (with Role) helps me see his things. Thought, tbh, I kinda didn't do that with the "maybe town post".

It had to do with the survival vote idea also. As if he (super) was Rb (A valuable role, with 2 active roles in the game) it is more of a vote for survival for his team, then himself. I thought it would make him scum, as it breaks his survival vote, and a RB getting lynched would explain it. Yet he was against Super early on, and he was really actually deadset on a vig shot on super. On his first what? 5 posts in he said he wanted super to get shot. The post about it came roughly half way through the day, and super wasn't certain to get lynch (AKA, the claim idea prob. wasn't sparked) yet. Therefore, calling for a shot on him that early on seems off.

This post also seems weird from a Scum mindset (I missed it.)
On April 17 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
rels still picking the low-hanging fruit
didn't jat SR sicklucker a while back? i thought that was a pretty good read
rsoul you have some important questions to answer

protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town

Kinda removes the option to live past Day 3 if he is scum. Especially after the claim later, which would take up another day at least. (And potentially 2, if CC happen, and we lynched CC) he basically put himself in a horrible situation.

Eh, I thought it was a bit weird also he was scum to put him into a position where he literary have no scum reads other than me + the clueless tone a bit.

His dissapence though kinda got me worried a way. Though, even when tumble was getting bussed by me in XIX (when he was dying/scum read), IIRC, he was still posting and contributing.

This first thing about him scumreading / calling for a vig shot on Superbie means nothing. It's not hard for partners to distance themselves. And while scumreading Superbia he attacked rsoul at the same time for her read on Superbia:
On April 21 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

Partner indicator right there.
The rsoul read was:
On April 16 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
slight preference for superbia because i can see fazer just not knowing what to do in his first game. obviously this could come from first-time scum just as easily but yeah...superbia's drive-by not gonna post bit seems like it could come from burn-out...at the very least unless he's just not gonna be back for deadline there's no need to even post the excuse in the first place

Which is a reasonnable and not-so-strong read. It didn't deserve that attack from Tumble quoted above.

This is illogical.
THEN, when the things really mattered IE at deadline EOD1, he didn't vote Superbia when (1) he scumread him and (2) it would have been helped him survive over Superbia. So his stance does not match his actions.
About the LYLO comment, saying WIFOM stuff like this is totally NAI.

This is a good post.
Also the "I usually don't survive" thing is more a "I am lynchbait" comment and serves to make people think of him like that which makes sense regardless of his alignment. Probably more for mafia though.
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On April 23 2016 01:24 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede

Blah, I would of already concede if my partner is tumble and I am scum here.

Anyways, back at Rels.

I still ponder though about the night kill tho. Yes, Rsoul was onto him (if he is scum) yet, tumble was reading her as one of his 2 lynches. Everyone else was town in his eyes.

The bolded is a lie. I am pretty sure you wouldn't.

Lol, if me and Tumble is, yes i would lol. I am already getting lynched, and if I was scum, I would flip scum, people would go "Shape is a bus driver, Tumble is scum." and Tumble loses. On top of the scum reads on him. The win chance of Tumble in that case is .0001% and gets worse if a heal happens. No sense to waste time in that case. Both me and him are in another game, so I let you answer if we would drain ourselfs (well tumble) for a battle.

Also, Why wouldn't I lol?
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