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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 18:36 GMT
#1901
Gumshoe did you read what I wrote on tumble ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 22 2016 18:39 GMT
#1902
On April 23 2016 03:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 01:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 23 2016 00:51 Rels wrote:
On April 23 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
I just clicked your filter. Quicker that way
On April 22 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this)


I don't think you reevaluated Tubme with the infos of the flip. You said he "still felt like crap" then that he was "maybe town" if I didn't miss anything. What did you expect from Superbia's flip ? Did that actually change your read or not ?

In short, it mostly has to do with his interactions with super D1. A flip (with Role) helps me see his things. Thought, tbh, I kinda didn't do that with the "maybe town post".

It had to do with the survival vote idea also. As if he (super) was Rb (A valuable role, with 2 active roles in the game) it is more of a vote for survival for his team, then himself. I thought it would make him scum, as it breaks his survival vote, and a RB getting lynched would explain it. Yet he was against Super early on, and he was really actually deadset on a vig shot on super. On his first what? 5 posts in he said he wanted super to get shot. The post about it came roughly half way through the day, and super wasn't certain to get lynch (AKA, the claim idea prob. wasn't sparked) yet. Therefore, calling for a shot on him that early on seems off.

This post also seems weird from a Scum mindset (I missed it.)
On April 17 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
rels still picking the low-hanging fruit
didn't jat SR sicklucker a while back? i thought that was a pretty good read
rsoul you have some important questions to answer

protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town

Kinda removes the option to live past Day 3 if he is scum. Especially after the claim later, which would take up another day at least. (And potentially 2, if CC happen, and we lynched CC) he basically put himself in a horrible situation.

Eh, I thought it was a bit weird also he was scum to put him into a position where he literary have no scum reads other than me + the clueless tone a bit.

His dissapence though kinda got me worried a way. Though, even when tumble was getting bussed by me in XIX (when he was dying/scum read), IIRC, he was still posting and contributing.

This first thing about him scumreading / calling for a vig shot on Superbie means nothing. It's not hard for partners to distance themselves. And while scumreading Superbia he attacked rsoul at the same time for her read on Superbia:
On April 21 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

Partner indicator right there.
The rsoul read was:
On April 16 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
slight preference for superbia because i can see fazer just not knowing what to do in his first game. obviously this could come from first-time scum just as easily but yeah...superbia's drive-by not gonna post bit seems like it could come from burn-out...at the very least unless he's just not gonna be back for deadline there's no need to even post the excuse in the first place

Which is a reasonnable and not-so-strong read. It didn't deserve that attack from Tumble quoted above.

This is illogical.
THEN, when the things really mattered IE at deadline EOD1, he didn't vote Superbia when (1) he scumread him and (2) it would have been helped him survive over Superbia. So his stance does not match his actions.
About the LYLO comment, saying WIFOM stuff like this is totally NAI.

This is a good post.
Also the "I usually don't survive" thing is more a "I am lynchbait" comment and serves to make people think of him like that which makes sense regardless of his alignment. Probably more for mafia though.
On April 23 2016 01:24 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede

Blah, I would of already concede if my partner is tumble and I am scum here.

Anyways, back at Rels.

I still ponder though about the night kill tho. Yes, Rsoul was onto him (if he is scum) yet, tumble was reading her as one of his 2 lynches. Everyone else was town in his eyes.

The bolded is a lie. I am pretty sure you wouldn't.

Lol, if me and Tumble is, yes i would lol. I am already getting lynched, and if I was scum, I would flip scum, people would go "Shape is a bus driver, Tumble is scum." and Tumble loses. On top of the scum reads on him. The win chance of Tumble in that case is .0001% and gets worse if a heal happens. No sense to waste time in that case. Both me and him are in another game, so I let you answer if we would drain ourselfs (well tumble) for a battle.

Also, Why wouldn't I lol?

You tried so hard in your two scum games that this is hard to believe
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 18:44 GMT
#1903
On April 23 2016 03:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 23 2016 01:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 23 2016 00:51 Rels wrote:
On April 23 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
I just clicked your filter. Quicker that way
On April 22 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this)


I don't think you reevaluated Tubme with the infos of the flip. You said he "still felt like crap" then that he was "maybe town" if I didn't miss anything. What did you expect from Superbia's flip ? Did that actually change your read or not ?

In short, it mostly has to do with his interactions with super D1. A flip (with Role) helps me see his things. Thought, tbh, I kinda didn't do that with the "maybe town post".

It had to do with the survival vote idea also. As if he (super) was Rb (A valuable role, with 2 active roles in the game) it is more of a vote for survival for his team, then himself. I thought it would make him scum, as it breaks his survival vote, and a RB getting lynched would explain it. Yet he was against Super early on, and he was really actually deadset on a vig shot on super. On his first what? 5 posts in he said he wanted super to get shot. The post about it came roughly half way through the day, and super wasn't certain to get lynch (AKA, the claim idea prob. wasn't sparked) yet. Therefore, calling for a shot on him that early on seems off.

This post also seems weird from a Scum mindset (I missed it.)
On April 17 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
rels still picking the low-hanging fruit
didn't jat SR sicklucker a while back? i thought that was a pretty good read
rsoul you have some important questions to answer

protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town

Kinda removes the option to live past Day 3 if he is scum. Especially after the claim later, which would take up another day at least. (And potentially 2, if CC happen, and we lynched CC) he basically put himself in a horrible situation.

Eh, I thought it was a bit weird also he was scum to put him into a position where he literary have no scum reads other than me + the clueless tone a bit.

His dissapence though kinda got me worried a way. Though, even when tumble was getting bussed by me in XIX (when he was dying/scum read), IIRC, he was still posting and contributing.

This first thing about him scumreading / calling for a vig shot on Superbie means nothing. It's not hard for partners to distance themselves. And while scumreading Superbia he attacked rsoul at the same time for her read on Superbia:
On April 21 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

Partner indicator right there.
The rsoul read was:
On April 16 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
slight preference for superbia because i can see fazer just not knowing what to do in his first game. obviously this could come from first-time scum just as easily but yeah...superbia's drive-by not gonna post bit seems like it could come from burn-out...at the very least unless he's just not gonna be back for deadline there's no need to even post the excuse in the first place

Which is a reasonnable and not-so-strong read. It didn't deserve that attack from Tumble quoted above.

This is illogical.
THEN, when the things really mattered IE at deadline EOD1, he didn't vote Superbia when (1) he scumread him and (2) it would have been helped him survive over Superbia. So his stance does not match his actions.
About the LYLO comment, saying WIFOM stuff like this is totally NAI.

This is a good post.
Also the "I usually don't survive" thing is more a "I am lynchbait" comment and serves to make people think of him like that which makes sense regardless of his alignment. Probably more for mafia though.
On April 23 2016 01:24 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede

Blah, I would of already concede if my partner is tumble and I am scum here.

Anyways, back at Rels.

I still ponder though about the night kill tho. Yes, Rsoul was onto him (if he is scum) yet, tumble was reading her as one of his 2 lynches. Everyone else was town in his eyes.

The bolded is a lie. I am pretty sure you wouldn't.

Lol, if me and Tumble is, yes i would lol. I am already getting lynched, and if I was scum, I would flip scum, people would go "Shape is a bus driver, Tumble is scum." and Tumble loses. On top of the scum reads on him. The win chance of Tumble in that case is .0001% and gets worse if a heal happens. No sense to waste time in that case. Both me and him are in another game, so I let you answer if we would drain ourselfs (well tumble) for a battle.

Also, Why wouldn't I lol?

You tried so hard in your two scum games that this is hard to believe

Lol, have I actually tried this game? Anyways, not only did i wanted to concede during storm (Koshi, was told that I can't) but in both of situations, I could savage the game, and made moves throughout the game to be able to win the game.

But I digress.

Looking through filters right now off and on (as time ables me to)
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 22 2016 18:44 GMT
#1904
Hola compadres, I apologize for my absence.
It seems like the plan is to lynch Shape and then me. Fortunately we have a mislynch, but that means bringing Onegu to LyLo (bar a doc save) and if Rels is scum-- still not ruled out-- we lose.
So I advise that you don't lynch me and instead go for Onegu or Rels. I'd recommend ignoring everything Shape says today because his words are laced with wine.
good times for all
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 18:49 GMT
#1905
On April 23 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Hola compadres, I apologize for my absence.
It seems like the plan is to lynch Shape and then me. Fortunately we have a mislynch, but that means bringing Onegu to LyLo (bar a doc save) and if Rels is scum-- still not ruled out-- we lose.
So I advise that you don't lynch me and instead go for Onegu or Rels. I'd recommend ignoring everything Shape says today because his words are laced with wine.

I mean, I did get drunk last night. But this post pleading not to get yourself voted off before I even flip makes no sense.

Lets play a great game Tumble. If I am not scum, and tomorrow is lylo. Who would you vote and why?

Also why can't SL be scum here as well?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 18:52 GMT
#1906
On April 23 2016 02:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 02:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat, forgive me if I missed it but who do you have as scum? I'm assuming tumble/SL or some variant thereof, yes?

lol we're so lucky you're vig =D


The reason I'm asking is because he said something that made me ultra paranoid.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 18:52 GMT
#1907
On April 23 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 02:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat, forgive me if I missed it but who do you have as scum? I'm assuming tumble/SL or some variant thereof, yes?

How in the world did you miss that? I want to lynch either shape or tumble. Maybe I could be convinced to kill Onegu.


I just couldn't find the post on my phone, geez.
Retired.
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 18:56 GMT
#1908
On April 23 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Hola compadres, I apologize for my absence.
It seems like the plan is to lynch Shape and then me. Fortunately we have a mislynch, but that means bringing Onegu to LyLo (bar a doc save) and if Rels is scum-- still not ruled out-- we lose.
So I advise that you don't lynch me and instead go for Onegu or Rels. I'd recommend ignoring everything Shape says today because his words are laced with wine.

Yeah this post is just ridiculously bad. Pleading with people not to lynch you, before I even fucking flip, and instead to vote off a) a east ML and b) someone who has voiced sus. with A is crazy.

Like I feel like you basically just read the thread, saw people not wanting to take Onegu to lylo and you are capitalizing on that to save your ass.

God damm, I wish I was scum with you. Just so I can yell at you in the QT.
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 19:00 GMT
#1909
Not only that, but you be going into Lylo in the case Onegu or Rels somehow gets lynched over you.
Which, in your own words:
protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 22 2016 19:03 GMT
#1910
On April 23 2016 03:49 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Hola compadres, I apologize for my absence.
It seems like the plan is to lynch Shape and then me. Fortunately we have a mislynch, but that means bringing Onegu to LyLo (bar a doc save) and if Rels is scum-- still not ruled out-- we lose.
So I advise that you don't lynch me and instead go for Onegu or Rels. I'd recommend ignoring everything Shape says today because his words are laced with wine.

I mean, I did get drunk last night. But this post pleading not to get yourself voted off before I even flip makes no sense.

Lets play a great game Tumble. If I am not scum, and tomorrow is lylo. Who would you vote and why?

Also why can't SL be scum here as well?

Onegu and then Rels the next day. I'm 80% sure no one else is scum.
SL is not scum because he's totally in line with his town meta by being cocky all game and he's not triggering my spidey senses in any way. He's at most the third scummiest in the game and would just be a stupid person to lynch at this point.
good times for all
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 19:07 GMT
#1911
So, In a way, you just claimed scum by saying you would want us to lynch Onegu/Rels instead of you. Therefore, forcing you to go into Lylo or w/e which would make you scum by your own diction.

You say you will have a ML and that it would be you. You also are certain that I am going to flip scum (which I am not) you haven't really done anything since the "got to find the scum now" and now are ok voting Onegu off because of not wanting him to go into Lylo.

So once I flip town, and ML. Then you will go against Onegu, who honestly has almost nothing in his filter other than a few things. AND you already fucking TR Onegu due to the scum slip thing, which should make you think he is town.
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 22 2016 19:09 GMT
#1912
On April 23 2016 04:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:49 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Hola compadres, I apologize for my absence.
It seems like the plan is to lynch Shape and then me. Fortunately we have a mislynch, but that means bringing Onegu to LyLo (bar a doc save) and if Rels is scum-- still not ruled out-- we lose.
So I advise that you don't lynch me and instead go for Onegu or Rels. I'd recommend ignoring everything Shape says today because his words are laced with wine.

I mean, I did get drunk last night. But this post pleading not to get yourself voted off before I even flip makes no sense.

Lets play a great game Tumble. If I am not scum, and tomorrow is lylo. Who would you vote and why?

Also why can't SL be scum here as well?

Onegu and then Rels the next day. I'm 80% sure no one else is scum.
SL is not scum because he's totally in line with his town meta by being cocky all game and he's not triggering my spidey senses in any way. He's at most the third scummiest in the game and would just be a stupid person to lynch at this point.

Why. You to answer the fucking WHY!!!!!!! Just saying "one of the 2 are scum, 80% sure" doesn't cut it.

You do not think he can mimic it?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 22 2016 19:10 GMT
#1913
On April 23 2016 04:00 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Not only that, but you be going into Lylo in the case Onegu or Rels somehow gets lynched over you.
Which, in your own words:
Show nested quote +
protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town

Me going into LyLo would be concerning because I'd probably be the mislynch that wins scum the game. But what am I going to do, soft doctor and pray for a NK? Suicide to get into LyLo earlier?
good times for all
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 22 2016 19:19 GMT
#1914
On April 23 2016 03:28 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:18 Onegu wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:08 gumshoe wrote:
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.

He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.

grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.




I use life excuses in town games, I am disabled and have a disabled son shit comes up. Like dont use meta, you are bad at it if you are town or you are just making up reads for the fun of it as scum. You have tried to make multiple meta reads on me this game going from town, to sucm to town to scum and it looks fake as hell to me that you actually believe these reads.

I havent fucked off I am around and plan on reading shit before deadline.

Also I have a very good track record as town of actually figuring the game out during lylo.

I don't know where your confidence comes from, but I just want to point out its a lot easier to solve Lylo when your are consistently the scummiest person there.



My confidence comes from a track record of doing so, you should know since you have meta read me right so you should have seen in oh wait thats right you are pulling meta out of your ass. Second I gave people reasons for why my solution was correct pointed out their flaws and why they were scum. I have won multiple games in lylo and lost a few where people didnt listen to me. The sad thing is this game I already know the players in this game wont even listen to what I have to say.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 22 2016 19:20 GMT
#1915
Shape I'm not getting caught up in this. You're scum and either trying to fake distance from me or get my lynched and I won't deal with either of those. Right now all I care about are the people whose alignments are in question, and that's not you.
good times for all
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
April 22 2016 19:22 GMT
#1916
On April 23 2016 04:07 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
So, In a way, you just claimed scum by saying you would want us to lynch Onegu/Rels instead of you. Therefore, forcing you to go into Lylo or w/e which would make you scum by your own diction.

You say you will have a ML and that it would be you. You also are certain that I am going to flip scum (which I am not) you haven't really done anything since the "got to find the scum now" and now are ok voting Onegu off because of not wanting him to go into Lylo.

So once I flip town, and ML. Then you will go against Onegu, who honestly has almost nothing in his filter other than a few things. AND you already fucking TR Onegu due to the scum slip thing, which should make you think he is town.

The bolded is really silly.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
April 22 2016 19:23 GMT
#1917
On April 23 2016 04:19 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 03:28 gumshoe wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:18 Onegu wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:08 gumshoe wrote:
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.

He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.

grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.




I use life excuses in town games, I am disabled and have a disabled son shit comes up. Like dont use meta, you are bad at it if you are town or you are just making up reads for the fun of it as scum. You have tried to make multiple meta reads on me this game going from town, to sucm to town to scum and it looks fake as hell to me that you actually believe these reads.

I havent fucked off I am around and plan on reading shit before deadline.

Also I have a very good track record as town of actually figuring the game out during lylo.

I don't know where your confidence comes from, but I just want to point out its a lot easier to solve Lylo when your are consistently the scummiest person there.



My confidence comes from a track record of doing so, you should know since you have meta read me right so you should have seen in oh wait thats right you are pulling meta out of your ass. Second I gave people reasons for why my solution was correct pointed out their flaws and why they were scum. I have won multiple games in lylo and lost a few where people didnt listen to me. The sad thing is this game I already know the players in this game wont even listen to what I have to say.

I guarantee you as long as your reasoning is better than "LOL scumslip!!!!!!!!!!111" I will hear you out.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 19:23 GMT
#1918
I think shape actually looks better in this fight than TW does.
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
April 22 2016 19:25 GMT
#1919
On April 23 2016 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think shape actually looks better in this fight than TW does.

Yes he does. Because nothing tumble says has ever any reasoning behind it.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 22 2016 19:26 GMT
#1920
On April 23 2016 04:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 04:19 Onegu wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:28 gumshoe wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:18 Onegu wrote:
On April 23 2016 03:08 gumshoe wrote:
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.

He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.

grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.




I use life excuses in town games, I am disabled and have a disabled son shit comes up. Like dont use meta, you are bad at it if you are town or you are just making up reads for the fun of it as scum. You have tried to make multiple meta reads on me this game going from town, to sucm to town to scum and it looks fake as hell to me that you actually believe these reads.

I havent fucked off I am around and plan on reading shit before deadline.

Also I have a very good track record as town of actually figuring the game out during lylo.

I don't know where your confidence comes from, but I just want to point out its a lot easier to solve Lylo when your are consistently the scummiest person there.



My confidence comes from a track record of doing so, you should know since you have meta read me right so you should have seen in oh wait thats right you are pulling meta out of your ass. Second I gave people reasons for why my solution was correct pointed out their flaws and why they were scum. I have won multiple games in lylo and lost a few where people didnt listen to me. The sad thing is this game I already know the players in this game wont even listen to what I have to say.

I guarantee you as long as your reasoning is better than "LOL scumslip!!!!!!!!!!111" I will hear you out.



Was a scumslip though.... And one that made you confirmed town to me...
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