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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 21 2016 15:54 GMT
#1761
On April 22 2016 00:51 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:30 Rels wrote:
On April 21 2016 09:55 sicklucker wrote:
gonna go read rels filter. im so sure hes mafia but outside of votes I have no real reason to think hes mafia. BUT HIS VOTE IS SO FUCKING MAFIA. your just gonna have to trust me on this one. im voting him today because I dont trust yall to do it torm even with a shape flip

Tumble is pretty likely scum so my vote is actually "so fucking town".


tumble isnt scum / :

first big case e.o.n, read it.


I did, and I just responded to it actually. ^^
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 21 2016 15:56 GMT
#1762
On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though.
The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons:
1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense.
2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on.
3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).

I think it's a good lynch.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

Maybe I will.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits.

During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.

Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion.

Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 21 2016 16:03 GMT
#1763
On April 22 2016 00:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though.
The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons:
1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense.
2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on.
3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events:
On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though.

On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game.

On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).

I think it's a good lynch.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.

On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB.

On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

Maybe I will.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits.

During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.

Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion.

Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin.

NKs are always a little bit WIFOM but yeah it points at Tumble in particular.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 21 2016 16:04 GMT
#1764
I won't vote before having time to properly read at least Onegu / JAS / Tumble, so that will be tomorrow while you're all sleeping. BTW just because I'm sleeping while you americans are active doesn't mean I'm inactive, isn't it right SL ? Inactive my ass, I bet I did at least twice as much work as you did at the very minimum.
But unless I find something damning, or someone makes a damning case, on someone else, I will probably vote & push Tumble tomorrow.
Alright going out, still on my phone. ^^
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 21 2016 16:05 GMT
#1765
On April 22 2016 01:04 Rels wrote:
I won't vote before having time to properly read at least Onegu / JAS / Tumble, so that will be tomorrow while you're all sleeping. BTW just because I'm sleeping while you americans are active doesn't mean I'm inactive, isn't it right SL ? Inactive my ass, I bet I did at least twice as much work as you did at the very minimum.
But unless I find something damning, or someone makes a damning case, on someone else, I will probably vote & push Tumble tomorrow.
Alright going out, still on my phone. ^^

You are not the only EU player in this game bro. I feel your pain.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 16:07 GMT
#1766
On April 22 2016 00:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though.
The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons:
1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense.
2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on.
3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events:
On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though.

On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game.

On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).

I think it's a good lynch.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.

On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB.

On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

Maybe I will.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits.

During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.

Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion.

Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin.


yeah except rels is wrong -_-

so yeah jat, when super claimed, there was one vote on gb and gb had LITERALLY just voted(wish time stamp gave the second XD).

also this post to palmer (in response to plamer saying he would stay on super)

Nope. Fuck you.


which happened just before gb voted and implies he was about to claim.

I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.


the actual claim seems to support this chain of events as the "make it clearer" warning implies his earlier post was a claim, or at least a preamble to one.

Super claimed knowing full well that if tumble was his scum part he just killed them both, it is not reasonable to consider a shenanie onto gb in that spot as a likely outcome as gb may very well have been about to get modkilled instead.

point is, with only one vote from jat onto gb WHO AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT TO GET MODKILLED AS HE WAS NOT VOTING(or something, not sure how the rules work XD)

Super made a move that would kill them both on the off chance that gb voted.









also jat is just not scum with super, hes just not. Read their interactions over palmer and the day 1 lynch. I can go into it, but its just not scum on scum / :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 16:11 GMT
#1767
I don't think it's reasonable to expect town to vote onto someone whose not voting.

Also if the vote did backfire it would have been disastrous.

And this all happened in the course of minutes. To assume mafia could internalize all that and risk utter disaster is silly / :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 16:13 GMT
#1768
It's like this, if gb had not come back ( which scum could not have known he would) the lynch would have defaulted onto tumble most likely. Thereby triggering the disaster scenario.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 21 2016 16:15 GMT
#1769
On April 22 2016 01:07 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though.
The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons:
1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense.
2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on.
3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events:
On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though.

On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game.

On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).

I think it's a good lynch.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.

On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB.

On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

Maybe I will.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits.

During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.

Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion.

Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin.


yeah except rels is wrong -_-

so yeah jat, when super claimed, there was one vote on gb and gb had LITERALLY just voted(wish time stamp gave the second XD).

also this post to palmer (in response to plamer saying he would stay on super)

Show nested quote +
Nope. Fuck you.


which happened just before gb voted and implies he was about to claim.

Show nested quote +
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.


the actual claim seems to support this chain of events as the "make it clearer" warning implies his earlier post was a claim, or at least a preamble to one.

Super claimed knowing full well that if tumble was his scum part he just killed them both, it is not reasonable to consider a shenanie onto gb in that spot as a likely outcome as gb may very well have been about to get modkilled instead.

point is, with only one vote from jat onto gb WHO AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT TO GET MODKILLED AS HE WAS NOT VOTING(or something, not sure how the rules work XD)

Super made a move that would kill them both on the off chance that gb voted.









also jat is just not scum with super, hes just not. Read their interactions over palmer and the day 1 lynch. I can go into it, but its just not scum on scum / :

It is you who is wrong.

1) GB wouldn't be modkilled for not voting and I assume mafia knew this.
2) GBs vote therefore is not important for this whole matter.
3) It was clear that people would follow me (Palmar said he would sheep me and also said he wouldn't lynch tumble etc. etc.) once super was not happening and I wasn't likely to lynch tumble.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 21 2016 16:16 GMT
#1770
On April 22 2016 01:13 gumshoe wrote:
It's like this, if gb had not come back ( which scum could not have known he would) the lynch would have defaulted onto tumble most likely. Thereby triggering the disaster scenario.

Not true at all. We would have lynched GB regardless.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 16:21 GMT
#1771
On April 22 2016 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:07 gumshoe wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though.
The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons:
1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense.
2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on.
3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events:
On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though.

On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game.

On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).

I think it's a good lynch.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.

On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB.

On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

Maybe I will.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits.

During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.

Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion.

Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin.


yeah except rels is wrong -_-

so yeah jat, when super claimed, there was one vote on gb and gb had LITERALLY just voted(wish time stamp gave the second XD).

also this post to palmer (in response to plamer saying he would stay on super)

Nope. Fuck you.


which happened just before gb voted and implies he was about to claim.

I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.


the actual claim seems to support this chain of events as the "make it clearer" warning implies his earlier post was a claim, or at least a preamble to one.

Super claimed knowing full well that if tumble was his scum part he just killed them both, it is not reasonable to consider a shenanie onto gb in that spot as a likely outcome as gb may very well have been about to get modkilled instead.

point is, with only one vote from jat onto gb WHO AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT TO GET MODKILLED AS HE WAS NOT VOTING(or something, not sure how the rules work XD)

Super made a move that would kill them both on the off chance that gb voted.









also jat is just not scum with super, hes just not. Read their interactions over palmer and the day 1 lynch. I can go into it, but its just not scum on scum / :

It is you who is wrong.

1) GB wouldn't be modkilled for not voting and I assume mafia knew this.
2) GBs vote therefore is not important for this whole matter.
3) It was clear that people would follow me (Palmar said he would sheep me and also said he wouldn't lynch tumble etc. etc.) once super was not happening and I wasn't likely to lynch tumble.


1: expecting town to jump onto a total lurker is a prayer, not a guarantee
2: gbs vote is important as that and his shit post are what really prompted the feeding frenzy
3 this points fair / :

Also just like to emphasize that rb means nothing here if tumble and super are scum. Seriously, getting a scum mate killed to preserve rb with claim is awful and should not be apart of the argument.

My problem with 3 is that it requires scum to be really good at rapidly internalizing the state of the thread, there had been six minutes between your willingness to kill gb and the rumblings of supers claim, it seems a little to quick of a span to write tumble off as safe / :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 16:22 GMT
#1772
But ok, I'll admit it is possible T-T
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 21 2016 16:25 GMT
#1773
Alright I am here now,

OWS, my normal way of scum hunting is being nick picky in general. It is how I see and process the game. I really can't do much if you had a prob. with why I had sus. on you. I've had them since roughly the middle of the 1st 24 hours of yesterday, and have been asking you why.

Also, Why would I kill Rsoul if I am scum. Ik this is WIFOM, but littirlay she was one of the few who were Town reading me at the time of her death. Also, I am a bus driver, I bus people and have shown that I know how to mutipleit the Vote count to make me look greatly town based off of vote logic (read the mafia qt from Storm, where I voted Rsoul D1, predicting that 3 people would vote for the counter wagon.) I would have come in, voted Super (since the claim, that I would actually know that happen, since he prob. would of told me in the suppose qt) and make up something like "I Had to do this in devil, yet, I was against claiming till I had to, and did not do it last min. That is why I voted super." or something like that.

I will finish catching up, And reread everything. The claim has changed my view, and this is the time that I do best at (being lynched) in terms of looking and catching scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 21 2016 16:29 GMT
#1774
On April 22 2016 01:21 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 01:07 gumshoe wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though.
The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons:
1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense.
2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on.
3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events:
On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though.

On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game.

On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).

I think it's a good lynch.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.

On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB.

On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

Maybe I will.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits.

During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.

Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion.

Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin.


yeah except rels is wrong -_-

so yeah jat, when super claimed, there was one vote on gb and gb had LITERALLY just voted(wish time stamp gave the second XD).

also this post to palmer (in response to plamer saying he would stay on super)

Nope. Fuck you.


which happened just before gb voted and implies he was about to claim.

I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.


the actual claim seems to support this chain of events as the "make it clearer" warning implies his earlier post was a claim, or at least a preamble to one.

Super claimed knowing full well that if tumble was his scum part he just killed them both, it is not reasonable to consider a shenanie onto gb in that spot as a likely outcome as gb may very well have been about to get modkilled instead.

point is, with only one vote from jat onto gb WHO AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT TO GET MODKILLED AS HE WAS NOT VOTING(or something, not sure how the rules work XD)

Super made a move that would kill them both on the off chance that gb voted.









also jat is just not scum with super, hes just not. Read their interactions over palmer and the day 1 lynch. I can go into it, but its just not scum on scum / :

It is you who is wrong.

1) GB wouldn't be modkilled for not voting and I assume mafia knew this.
2) GBs vote therefore is not important for this whole matter.
3) It was clear that people would follow me (Palmar said he would sheep me and also said he wouldn't lynch tumble etc. etc.) once super was not happening and I wasn't likely to lynch tumble.


1: expecting town to jump onto a total lurker is a prayer, not a guarantee
2: gbs vote is important as that and his shit post are what really prompted the feeding frenzy
3 this points fair / :

Also just like to emphasize that rb means nothing here if tumble and super are scum. Seriously, getting a scum mate killed to preserve rb with claim is awful and should not be apart of the argument.

My problem with 3 is that it requires scum to be really good at rapidly internalizing the state of the thread, there had been six minutes between your willingness to kill gb and the rumblings of supers claim, it seems a little to quick of a span to write tumble off as safe / :

The thing is you assume mafia is always calm and calculating during all of this. Supers claim could have just aswell been a hail mary and they were just praying that it works out. If tumble and super are both mafia and up for lynch day1 they are in a really bad position anyways.

And to 1: The recent meta is that town always jumps onto a lurker in the last second and if I am already on the case it is very likely that people will follow. Which is why I wrote that post about being sick and tired about having to decide day1 lynches. Because in almost every recent towngame I had to and it is really stressful and not what I am best at.

2: I don't think it was the deciding thing. It may have helped though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 21 2016 16:34 GMT
#1775
On April 22 2016 01:25 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Alright I am here now,

OWS, my normal way of scum hunting is being nick picky in general. It is how I see and process the game. I really can't do much if you had a prob. with why I had sus. on you. I've had them since roughly the middle of the 1st 24 hours of yesterday, and have been asking you why.

Also, Why would I kill Rsoul if I am scum. Ik this is WIFOM, but littirlay she was one of the few who were Town reading me at the time of her death. Also, I am a bus driver, I bus people and have shown that I know how to mutipleit the Vote count to make me look greatly town based off of vote logic (read the mafia qt from Storm, where I voted Rsoul D1, predicting that 3 people would vote for the counter wagon.) I would have come in, voted Super (since the claim, that I would actually know that happen, since he prob. would of told me in the suppose qt) and make up something like "I Had to do this in devil, yet, I was against claiming till I had to, and did not do it last min. That is why I voted super." or something like that.

I will finish catching up, And reread everything. The claim has changed my view, and this is the time that I do best at (being lynched) in terms of looking and catching scum.

I will present you a very easy scenario were all this makes sense.

Suppose you are mafia with tumble.

Rsoul wants to lynch tumble with fire. She also said she could see you being mafia with him. Killing rsoul makes a lot of sense: check.

You didn't care about what happened eod1 at all and vote tumble for some very very weak reason. You don't want to bus the rb and he has claimed a role so it wouldn't even look good to do so. Shape bussing to look good: check.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 16:38 GMT
#1776
Sigh, welp that means that unless onegu is the vig and he's massacring us as punishment, obi is telling the truth T-T
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 21 2016 16:40 GMT
#1777
On April 22 2016 01:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:25 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Alright I am here now,

OWS, my normal way of scum hunting is being nick picky in general. It is how I see and process the game. I really can't do much if you had a prob. with why I had sus. on you. I've had them since roughly the middle of the 1st 24 hours of yesterday, and have been asking you why.

Also, Why would I kill Rsoul if I am scum. Ik this is WIFOM, but littirlay she was one of the few who were Town reading me at the time of her death. Also, I am a bus driver, I bus people and have shown that I know how to mutipleit the Vote count to make me look greatly town based off of vote logic (read the mafia qt from Storm, where I voted Rsoul D1, predicting that 3 people would vote for the counter wagon.) I would have come in, voted Super (since the claim, that I would actually know that happen, since he prob. would of told me in the suppose qt) and make up something like "I Had to do this in devil, yet, I was against claiming till I had to, and did not do it last min. That is why I voted super." or something like that.

I will finish catching up, And reread everything. The claim has changed my view, and this is the time that I do best at (being lynched) in terms of looking and catching scum.

I will present you a very easy scenario were all this makes sense.

Suppose you are mafia with tumble.

Rsoul wants to lynch tumble with fire. She also said she could see you being mafia with him. Killing rsoul makes a lot of sense: check.

You didn't care about what happened eod1 at all and vote tumble for some very very weak reason. You don't want to bus the rb and he has claimed a role so it wouldn't even look good to do so. Shape bussing to look good: check.

Fuck no, I would of voted for super who would of not posed a big chance of getting lynched after the claim. Therefore it is a safe lynch that buys me cred later on than tumble vote due to the reason of voting him (meta).

Fair point with Rsoul, forgot about that lol.

Anyways from a skim point of View so far,

SL is doing that "Look I am town, no really, look I am town. ACCEPT ME AS DAMM TOWN" shit again that he was doing in Storm with the vet claim.

Tumble seems clueless, which makes me like him now a bit. Ironic if he flips scum this game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 21 2016 16:40 GMT
#1778
On April 22 2016 01:38 gumshoe wrote:
Sigh, welp that means that unless onegu is the vig and he's massacring us as punishment, obi is telling the truth T-T

That was very likely in the first place dude. And it is really nice because he was a question mark that we do not need to worry about anymore. Him being the vig is the best thing that could have happened.
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 21 2016 16:41 GMT
#1779
Case in point about the vote,

SL.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 21 2016 16:47 GMT
#1780
On April 22 2016 01:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:04 Rels wrote:
I won't vote before having time to properly read at least Onegu / JAS / Tumble, so that will be tomorrow while you're all sleeping. BTW just because I'm sleeping while you americans are active doesn't mean I'm inactive, isn't it right SL ? Inactive my ass, I bet I did at least twice as much work as you did at the very minimum.
But unless I find something damning, or someone makes a damning case, on someone else, I will probably vote & push Tumble tomorrow.
Alright going out, still on my phone. ^^

You are not the only EU player in this game bro. I feel your pain.

Then you're beginning to sleep way later than I do :p
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