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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 16:48 GMT
#1781
On April 22 2016 01:25 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Alright I am here now,

OWS, my normal way of scum hunting is being nick picky in general. It is how I see and process the game. I really can't do much if you had a prob. with why I had sus. on you. I've had them since roughly the middle of the 1st 24 hours of yesterday, and have been asking you why.

Also, Why would I kill Rsoul if I am scum. Ik this is WIFOM, but littirlay she was one of the few who were Town reading me at the time of her death. Also, I am a bus driver, I bus people and have shown that I know how to mutipleit the Vote count to make me look greatly town based off of vote logic (read the mafia qt from Storm, where I voted Rsoul D1, predicting that 3 people would vote for the counter wagon.) I would have come in, voted Super (since the claim, that I would actually know that happen, since he prob. would of told me in the suppose qt) and make up something like "I Had to do this in devil, yet, I was against claiming till I had to, and did not do it last min. That is why I voted super." or something like that.

I will finish catching up, And reread everything. The claim has changed my view, and this is the time that I do best at (being lynched) in terms of looking and catching scum.


I don't believe you.
Retired.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 21 2016 16:49 GMT
#1782
On April 22 2016 01:07 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though.
The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons:
1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense.
2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on.
3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events:
On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though.

On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything.

Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game.

On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).

I think it's a good lynch.

On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.

On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB.

On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.

I encourage people to sheep me on superbia.

Maybe I will.

On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits.

During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.

Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion.

Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin.


yeah except rels is wrong -_-

so yeah jat, when super claimed, there was one vote on gb and gb had LITERALLY just voted(wish time stamp gave the second XD).

also this post to palmer (in response to plamer saying he would stay on super)

Show nested quote +
Nope. Fuck you.


which happened just before gb voted and implies he was about to claim.

Show nested quote +
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.


the actual claim seems to support this chain of events as the "make it clearer" warning implies his earlier post was a claim, or at least a preamble to one.

Super claimed knowing full well that if tumble was his scum part he just killed them both, it is not reasonable to consider a shenanie onto gb in that spot as a likely outcome as gb may very well have been about to get modkilled instead.

point is, with only one vote from jat onto gb WHO AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT TO GET MODKILLED AS HE WAS NOT VOTING(or something, not sure how the rules work XD)

Super made a move that would kill them both on the off chance that gb voted.









also jat is just not scum with super, hes just not. Read their interactions over palmer and the day 1 lynch. I can go into it, but its just not scum on scum / :

This has nothing to do with GB. Notice I didn't quote any GB in my post. This has to do with jat voting GB and palmar declaring he would sheep jat, then voting superbia. At that point it was a GB superbia 1v1 even if GB had not posted at all.

And about that last past, apparently you didn't read my last post on that subject that said more or less this :p
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 16:49 GMT
#1783
Even if I did I could point to three points in particular where you were questioning people and you dropped it entirely after so little.

You're such a nonentity outside of your terrible push on me that I have a very hard time seeing you as town this game.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 16:56 GMT
#1784
I realize I may have to reconsider my read on tumble due to rso's death.

It's such a weird kill to me considering (imo) it was obvious that she wasn't the doctor and didn't really put mafia in a significantly better spot with her out of the way due to more conftown running around.
Retired.
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 21 2016 16:56 GMT
#1785
On April 22 2016 01:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:25 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Alright I am here now,

OWS, my normal way of scum hunting is being nick picky in general. It is how I see and process the game. I really can't do much if you had a prob. with why I had sus. on you. I've had them since roughly the middle of the 1st 24 hours of yesterday, and have been asking you why.

Also, Why would I kill Rsoul if I am scum. Ik this is WIFOM, but littirlay she was one of the few who were Town reading me at the time of her death. Also, I am a bus driver, I bus people and have shown that I know how to mutipleit the Vote count to make me look greatly town based off of vote logic (read the mafia qt from Storm, where I voted Rsoul D1, predicting that 3 people would vote for the counter wagon.) I would have come in, voted Super (since the claim, that I would actually know that happen, since he prob. would of told me in the suppose qt) and make up something like "I Had to do this in devil, yet, I was against claiming till I had to, and did not do it last min. That is why I voted super." or something like that.

I will finish catching up, And reread everything. The claim has changed my view, and this is the time that I do best at (being lynched) in terms of looking and catching scum.


I don't believe you.

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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 21 2016 16:59 GMT
#1786
On April 22 2016 01:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I realize I may have to reconsider my read on tumble due to rso's death.

It's such a weird kill to me considering (imo) it was obvious that she wasn't the doctor and didn't really put mafia in a significantly better spot with her out of the way due to more conftown running around.

The only other reason they could have killed her for if it's not a completely random medic dodge is that they thought she was the vig and considering how she talked about that it is incredibly unlikely.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 17:08 GMT
#1787
Alright, so my most cold/anylytical self says we have to lynch onegu here

I missed the bit about him posting in the ban list, which means he may very we'll have just been funnelling his rage into this game. So it really is nai, and everything he's done before is pretty scummy (the wasted day 1 vote has scumgu written all over it)

I was honestly only giving him a pass because of the way the obi theory fit in my head T-T and with jas not claiming immediately that's dead.

Onegu is well worth our one mislynch if he is somehow town, as it is never a good idea to take a troll question mark into potential Lylo. He is the last person we want to have to keep in the back of our minds and he has a good chance of flipping red. So he's mah lynch of choice.

##vote onegu
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 21 2016 17:20 GMT
#1788
Eh, I've have problems with Onegu since D2.

Syspoiois: A lot of what I know of him is missing. He is not pushing anyone, and when he is scum reading people, he wasn't interacting in a way I would think.

I look at him again.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 17:47 GMT
#1789
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.

Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.

He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 21 2016 17:52 GMT
#1790
On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.

Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.

He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.

This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 18:03 GMT
#1791
On April 22 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.

Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.

He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.

This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town.


Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today
The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment.

Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant.

We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 21 2016 18:07 GMT
#1792
On April 22 2016 03:03 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.

Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.

He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.

This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town.


Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today
The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment.

Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant.

We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him.


If he really ragequit he might actually get modkilled at some point though. I know that is a dangerous assumption but nevertheless.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 18:11 GMT
#1793
Did you know in vanilla bh lead a last second shenanie onto him when they were both scum? It almost worked too and I wrote off bh for the rest of the game because of it after onegu flipped red.

He just has to die, no connection, no case, no analysis is as pressing as the fact that we are currently playing with a total enigma. Anything less then confirmed mafia (like super was)does not take presidency over that.

Also as today is possibly the only day we can reliably pressure him we should do so. Who knows, problem might solve itself.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 18:13 GMT
#1794
On April 22 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 03:03 gumshoe wrote:
On April 22 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.

Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.

He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.

This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town.


Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today
The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment.

Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant.

We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him.


If he really ragequit he might actually get modkilled at some point though. I know that is a dangerous assumption but nevertheless.


If he gets mod killed ill sheep you on whoever, but onegu could very well be spiteful enough to skirt the line.

We lose nothing by at least pressuring him today.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 21 2016 18:14 GMT
#1795
On April 22 2016 03:13 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 03:03 gumshoe wrote:
On April 22 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.

Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.

He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.

This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town.


Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today
The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment.

Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant.

We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him.


If he really ragequit he might actually get modkilled at some point though. I know that is a dangerous assumption but nevertheless.


If he gets mod killed ill sheep you on whoever, but onegu could very well be spiteful enough to skirt the line.

We lose nothing by at least pressuring him today.


Try to pressure him all you want. Fine by me. But you can't really pressure someone who isn't around.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 21 2016 18:16 GMT
#1796
On April 22 2016 02:20 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Eh, I've have problems with Onegu since D2.

Syspoiois: A lot of what I know of him is missing. He is not pushing anyone, and when he is scum reading people, he wasn't interacting in a way I would think.

I look at him again.

I love how shape wants to look at something but only posts in his other game. Do you even care about this one at all?
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 18:18 GMT
#1797
On April 22 2016 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 03:13 gumshoe wrote:
On April 22 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 03:03 gumshoe wrote:
On April 22 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.

Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.

He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.

This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town.


Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today
The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment.

Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant.

We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him.


If he really ragequit he might actually get modkilled at some point though. I know that is a dangerous assumption but nevertheless.


If he gets mod killed ill sheep you on whoever, but onegu could very well be spiteful enough to skirt the line.

We lose nothing by at least pressuring him today.


Try to pressure him all you want. Fine by me. But you can't really pressure someone who isn't around.


Well if he's scum he's lurking probs, you pressure dem with votes XD
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 21 2016 20:00 GMT
#1798
Day 3 Vote Count


Justanotherscummer: (4) obiwanshinobi, sicklucker, tumblewood, sicklucker, justanothertownie
Rels: (0) sicklucker
Onegu: (1) gumshoe

Not voting: (2) Onegu, Rels




Currently Justanotherscummer is set to be lynched
until deadline.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 21 2016 21:04 GMT
#1799
Agree that knegu needs to die
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 21 2016 21:05 GMT
#1800
Going to sllepp soon so see you tkmorrow
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