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On April 25 2016 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:06 Onegu wrote:
Also one last thing lol @ Tumble just sitting back and watching the mislynch train run right on. WP sir WP. Onegu, if this is all you are gonna do in LYLO as town then you alone are the reason we lose and there is no use arguing anything else. There is also no reason to ever complain about being policy lynched and whatnot because this is how you get people to do so and you can't blame them for it. I seriously hope you are mafia.
Also self meta but I am onegu and it doesnt really count, I normally fight much more if I am scum.
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On April 25 2016 23:42 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if Onegu is town we lose no matter what. Even if tumble is mafia and we lynch him today Onegu will never manage not to get mislynched the next day like this. How is this even remotely true. I found scum tumble. We should have lynched him yesterday. Fine I will look into who is the final scum between Rels and SL and actually give you a case.
You "found" scum tumble by knowing that you are town if you are. That's neither a big achievement nor very convincing or helpful for the rest of us.
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On April 25 2016 23:39 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 17:20 Rels wrote:On April 25 2016 12:33 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 12:21 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 11:58 Tumblewood wrote:
I think a scumteam without Onegu can't exist because otherwise whoever is scum would just coast through this. It's not like Rels or JAT or SL would get punished for being AFK, because Onegu is even more AFK.
Still think SL is town, but the shouting match with Rels has me a little worried. I don't want to go into the final four with my townread on SL requiring me to overlook his flaws. In a TvS shouting match, town doesn't always come out of it looking as solid as before... agh still makes me uneasy though. What are you even saying here? I am saying two things here: - A scum team doesn't exist without Onegu. - I still think SL is town, but the recent shouting match between him and Rels makes me less comfortable about it. So who's your second scum and why? Rels, on the charges of - having a strong scumread on me but only pushing me when it's most useful for scum (when my wagon is tied with Super's and when my wagon is the counter to Shape's) - not being as townie as SL or JAT This doesn't make any sense. 1 - How is it useful for scum to push your mislynch when your wagon is the counter to Shape ? 2 - So I pushed you D1 and D3. The only time I didn't push you was D2 when there was claim stuff to take care of. When should I have been pushing you as town ? 3 - The question was "Why is Rels scum", you can't just answer "for not being townie". Why am I not townie ? 1. Because my will at deadline basically said, you will lynch Shape then Onegu after I die. Shape would have almost certainly died the next day and mafia would win. 2. You didn't push me either until just before deadline on those two days. 3. Lrn 2 read, I said that SL and JAT are wayyy townier than you.
1. So once again, how is this scum indicative instead of townie pushing for the right lynch ? You say I am scum that pushed for your mislynch all game, if you got lynched D3 and you flipped town I would be in a bad spot.
2. This is a lie. I wasn't even around during EOD3, I was on a train with no mean to read the thread. My first big post on you D3 was before midday to prove GB was the second wagon, and the real one was 9 hours before deadline:
On April 22 2016 22:04 Rels wrote:That is what it looks like. I finished rereading Tumble's filter and he's super likely scum: - he made up a reason to explain a post he made. Townie always has a reason to post something. They can forget it, but what they wo'nt do is to make up an entirely fake one. Scum cannot disclose the real reasons they are making post ("I want ot be townread", "I want this scummy looking guy to be lynched") so they have to make them up though. - he has exactly 0 in-depth read. He scumread rsoul D1 and D2 and came up with a lot of reasons to scumread her. I summed them up EOD1 but he continued D2: he attacked her on her read of GB for example, which is pretty ridiculous. His Shape read is super strange too, he went from "town" to "#1 scum" with almost no explanation. Could be because JAS is his partner and he wants to be right but no push him very hard. - he didn't vote Superbia, the scum RB, to save his life, when he was scumreading him; but he voted GB, who was null "50/50" in his last EOD1. - rsoul died and he was her #1 scumread - his activity has died down, seems like scum giving up when he should be fighting as town especially since his #1 scumread is getting lynched right now Going to Shape now, then Onegu.
3. Alright it is POE then. Can't arguee against that.
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On April 25 2016 23:44 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:On April 25 2016 23:06 Onegu wrote:
Also one last thing lol @ Tumble just sitting back and watching the mislynch train run right on. WP sir WP. Onegu, if this is all you are gonna do in LYLO as town then you alone are the reason we lose and there is no use arguing anything else. There is also no reason to ever complain about being policy lynched and whatnot because this is how you get people to do so and you can't blame them for it. I seriously hope you are mafia. Also self meta but I am onegu and it doesnt really count, I normally fight much more if I am scum.
Then that just makes you a terrible person if you would fight as mafia and wouldn't as town. I don't believe you though.
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On April 25 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:42 Onegu wrote:On April 25 2016 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if Onegu is town we lose no matter what. Even if tumble is mafia and we lynch him today Onegu will never manage not to get mislynched the next day like this. How is this even remotely true. I found scum tumble. We should have lynched him yesterday. Fine I will look into who is the final scum between Rels and SL and actually give you a case. You "found" scum tumble by knowing that you are town if you are. That's neither a big achievement nor very convincing or helpful for the rest of us.
So what you want me to do the work of making a case on him when you already think he is scum, but you guys are going to vote me anyway because I am onegu and if we go to final day with only one scum left you auto vote onegu. Thats not how that works. Previous games I have been in 2-1 lylo and won the game not being lynched. Looks at Obi.
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On April 25 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:44 Onegu wrote:On April 25 2016 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:On April 25 2016 23:06 Onegu wrote:
Also one last thing lol @ Tumble just sitting back and watching the mislynch train run right on. WP sir WP. Onegu, if this is all you are gonna do in LYLO as town then you alone are the reason we lose and there is no use arguing anything else. There is also no reason to ever complain about being policy lynched and whatnot because this is how you get people to do so and you can't blame them for it. I seriously hope you are mafia. Also self meta but I am onegu and it doesnt really count, I normally fight much more if I am scum. Then that just makes you a terrible person if you would fight as mafia and wouldn't as town. I don't believe you though.
Just fight harder.
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Also we have had 3 lynches.
Every time we lynched town guess who the counter wagon was and yet we arent voting him today.
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On April 25 2016 23:48 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On April 25 2016 23:42 Onegu wrote:On April 25 2016 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if Onegu is town we lose no matter what. Even if tumble is mafia and we lynch him today Onegu will never manage not to get mislynched the next day like this. How is this even remotely true. I found scum tumble. We should have lynched him yesterday. Fine I will look into who is the final scum between Rels and SL and actually give you a case. You "found" scum tumble by knowing that you are town if you are. That's neither a big achievement nor very convincing or helpful for the rest of us. So what you want me to do the work of making a case on him when you already think he is scum, but you guys are going to vote me anyway because I am onegu and if we go to final day with only one scum left you auto vote onegu. Thats not how that works. Previous games I have been in 2-1 lylo and won the game not being lynched. Looks at Obi.
I am far from certain that tumble is mafia if you are. You probably fit better with rels.
Even you should be able to understand that having tumble as a mafia read can never be enough to townread/not lynch you today. Especially after you did nothing all game.
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On April 25 2016 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:27 Rels wrote:On April 25 2016 23:21 justanothertownie wrote:On April 25 2016 21:24 Rels wrote:
SL if you're scum there, WP because it's unlikely I change my mind. Well, it would also be Onegu's fault for being terrible but I don't think you've ever reread a game as scum ? At least that's something I can't imagine you doing when you have a hard time caring as scum. Shouldn't tumble be the saver bet from your perspective though? I mean it seems like he would has a way bigger chance to be with SL, no? Are you that sure that both of your reads are right? I'm pretty sure both of my reads are right. Tumble is the safer lynch but given other people's stances on this lynch I don't really care to fight for Tumble over Onegu when I'm pretty sure they are both scums. You really should care though. And in your whole analysis there is actually 0 evaluation of the votecounts. How uncharacteristic and sloppy for you.
You're right, I thought being absolved of responsability would be OK is we lost but I do want to win. Onegu is scummier and scummier the more he posts though. FTM I think they are both scums.
The vote thing is not true. Both Onegu and Tumble are scums partly because of their vote D1. D3 votes do not prove anything; from a D3 vote point of view, both of you and SL could be scum with both Onegu & Tumble, and Onegu bused Tumble if they are both scums.
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On April 25 2016 23:50 Onegu wrote:
Also we have had 3 lynches.
Every time we lynched town guess who the counter wagon was and yet we arent voting him today.
I don't think day1 really counts in that regard.
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On April 25 2016 23:48 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On April 25 2016 23:42 Onegu wrote:On April 25 2016 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if Onegu is town we lose no matter what. Even if tumble is mafia and we lynch him today Onegu will never manage not to get mislynched the next day like this. How is this even remotely true. I found scum tumble. We should have lynched him yesterday. Fine I will look into who is the final scum between Rels and SL and actually give you a case. You "found" scum tumble by knowing that you are town if you are. That's neither a big achievement nor very convincing or helpful for the rest of us. So what you want me to do the work of making a case on him when you already think he is scum, but you guys are going to vote me anyway because I am onegu and if we go to final day with only one scum left you auto vote onegu. Thats not how that works. Previous games I have been in 2-1 lylo and won the game not being lynched. Looks at Obi.
Getting carried by rso isn't what I would call a good example, but if you want to insist on playing like shit as much as possible then fine.
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On April 25 2016 23:50 Onegu wrote:
Also we have had 3 lynches.
Every time we lynched town guess who the counter wagon was and yet we arent voting him today.
D1 Tumble was not a counter wagon.
D2 was an universal wagon on Superbia.
This argument is pretty bad.
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On April 25 2016 23:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:50 Onegu wrote:
Also we have had 3 lynches.
Every time we lynched town guess who the counter wagon was and yet we arent voting him today. D1 Tumble was not a counter wagon. D2 was an universal wagon on Superbia. This argument is pretty bad.
Yes he was he had the second most votes on him with sub. They both got 3 then they both jumped on GB to ensure his lynch.
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On April 25 2016 23:56 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:54 Rels wrote:On April 25 2016 23:50 Onegu wrote:
Also we have had 3 lynches.
Every time we lynched town guess who the counter wagon was and yet we arent voting him today. D1 Tumble was not a counter wagon. D2 was an universal wagon on Superbia. This argument is pretty bad. Yes he was he had the second most votes on him with sub. They both got 3 then they both jumped on GB to ensure his lynch.
First, at the end of the day, Suerpbia was almost lynched, fakeclaimed, then GB got lynched. Maybe Tumble was second in vote at EOD but he was not in danger to being lynched at the very end.
Second, being a counterwagon doesn't make someone scum.
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On April 25 2016 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:50 Onegu wrote:
Also we have had 3 lynches.
Every time we lynched town guess who the counter wagon was and yet we arent voting him today. I don't think day1 really counts in that regard.
Sure it does. It was 3 votes on Sub and tumble. Then Sub and Tumble go on GB.
And this is important because tumble kinda blames jat for swiching and then switches to GB himself when he was scum reading Sub. He scum read SUB but didnt vote him, he votes for someone who he didnt have a read on.
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On April 26 2016 00:00 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:On April 25 2016 23:50 Onegu wrote:
Also we have had 3 lynches.
Every time we lynched town guess who the counter wagon was and yet we arent voting him today. I don't think day1 really counts in that regard. Sure it does. It was 3 votes on Sub and tumble. Then Sub and Tumble go on GB. And this is important because tumble kinda blames jat for swiching and then switches to GB himself when he was scum reading Sub. He scum read SUB but didnt vote him, he votes for someone who he didnt have a read on.
On the other hand this is true. But it's been repeated so many times since D2 that everybody is aware of that.
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His vote does matter. He doesnt mention GB and scum reads sub but votes GB anyway. It ensured that he and Sub wouldnt be lynched there.
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On April 26 2016 00:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 00:00 Onegu wrote:On April 25 2016 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:On April 25 2016 23:50 Onegu wrote:
Also we have had 3 lynches.
Every time we lynched town guess who the counter wagon was and yet we arent voting him today. I don't think day1 really counts in that regard. Sure it does. It was 3 votes on Sub and tumble. Then Sub and Tumble go on GB. And this is important because tumble kinda blames jat for swiching and then switches to GB himself when he was scum reading Sub. He scum read SUB but didnt vote him, he votes for someone who he didnt have a read on. On the other hand this is true. But it's been repeated so many times since D2 that everybody is aware of that.
Then that is why we should be lynching him
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JAT and obi if you really dont see this than that is on you.
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On April 26 2016 00:04 Onegu wrote:
JAT and obi if you really dont see this than that is on you.
Methinks you don't really know how to play this game.
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