EPTOn March 27 2016 20:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Can you explain to me what's the point of putting in all this effort to make this post with all those reads when you haven't even read the rest of the thread which could change your opinion on everything? You could just read instead.
This does not strike me as a towny mindset at all.
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On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:
Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though.
Reads at this point:
VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +
Kurumi - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
Stutters695 - Turns out was a blue...
Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
sandroba - town - + Show Spoiler +
ObiWanShinobi - town lean -+ Show Spoiler +
Koshi - town - + Show Spoiler +
Rels - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
justanothertownie - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
ritoky - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
sicklucker - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +
Alakaslam - Scum - + Show Spoiler +
Tumblewood - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +
Shapelog - Null - + Show Spoiler +
Vivax - Town - + Show Spoiler +
rsoultin - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
LightningStrike - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
Superbia - Town - + Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0):Koshi
ritoky (0):Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0):Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0):sicklucker
sandroba (0):Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0):
ritoky (0):
Alakaslam (0):
Damdred (0):
sandroba (0):
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though.
Reads at this point:
VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +
Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing.
Kurumi - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;
WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write
WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write
Stutters695 - Turns out was a blue...
Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)
Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before
Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before
sandroba - town - + Show Spoiler +
#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;
Feels alot like sandroba from last game
Feels alot like sandroba from last game
ObiWanShinobi - town lean -+ Show Spoiler +
#957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts
Koshi - town - + Show Spoiler +
Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...
Rels - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;
I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk.
I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk.
justanothertownie - town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions
Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things
Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things
ritoky - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.
#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.
Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads.
#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.
Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads.
sicklucker - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;
So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town
So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town
Alakaslam - Scum - + Show Spoiler +
I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.
#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?
It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given
#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?
It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given
Tumblewood - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +
#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta
#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here
I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read
#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here
I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read
Shapelog - Null - + Show Spoiler +
#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?
Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.
Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.
Vivax - Town - + Show Spoiler +
I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.
#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax
#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax
rsoultin - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from
kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck
While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town.
kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck
While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town.
LightningStrike - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +
#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;
I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads
I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads
Superbia - Town - + Show Spoiler +
#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon
Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game
Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game
Can you explain to me what's the point of putting in all this effort to make this post with all those reads when you haven't even read the rest of the thread which could change your opinion on everything? You could just read instead.
This does not strike me as a towny mindset at all.
I made the mistake of trying to take notes as I read through the game, I thought it might help since I was only reading small chunks at a time and help me record/process things better. It actually just made reading take twice as much effort, and I failed to organize my thoughts while I made them.
EoD felt like the right place to wrap that up, compile my thoughts and put them down in post.
Probably never doing that again.
