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On April 16 2016 12:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not being a cunt. I am saying two things:
1) Being and SK (which is normal) even with a vest is worse than being an SK with a jailkeeper WITH you. Complaining about 3p balance in this case is just ridiculous.

2) You got away with your claim, sure. Well played sir! (or idk if it was though since mafia wanted to rolecop you on N1 anyways). You shouldn't have though.

On April 16 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote:

Combat Medic: Essentially a medic who saves 1 kp at night. However if he makes a successful save he has to make a choice. Either he stays with his target, keeping him alive as long as he stays, or he leaves his patient to die. The idea is to make medic less punishing for mafia, similar to my reanimator role. Damdred saved JAT on n1, but got roleblocked n2, preventing him to stick with jat, causing jat to die.

Doctor; The town investigative role. We thought given that there was no cop hate at all in the game (millers/godfathers) that every night cop role would be too strong. We considered an "even night cop", ie a cop that can only check on even nights, and the roleblock n1 -> check n2 idea came from that. I think it's a decent role, but a parity cop is probably a better slow cop role. Basically the guy picks a guy n1, roleblocks him that night, then gets a result at the end of n2 on that guys alignment. Vivax roleblocked Kurumi n1.

Forensics Expert: Could have "confirmed" slam had he lived. Investigative role that knows the alignment of the killer of any player who is dead. Useful for detecting there is a 3rd party in the game and to confirm vigilante claims. Good low power role, I'm sort of okay with it, but not overly happy.

Brood Mother/Tentacled Monster: So the idea here was to split up the normal SK role (which is bulletproof vigilante, essentially) into two roles. The advantage is that suddenly the SK is a faction, there's two people to plan and talk to and they have more combined pull in the thread. The disadvantage is that because the protection part of the SK faction is a jailer, it means that they can only either protect the SK faction leader (brood mother) OR they can shoot. They can't do both at the same time.

If the Brood mother dies, the faction is eliminated. Thus if sicklucker would've died before superbia, superbia would have died with him. On the other hand, it's ok to lose the jailer, it just means the sk has no protection left and has lost his teammate.

I sort of like this implementation of an SK, but I would advise against using it too much. In fact 3p should probably in general be used sparingly (I only use them in storm games generally). But I was pretty much okay with how they turned out this game.

On April 16 2016 13:34 sicklucker wrote:


you brought up a random insult just to be mean. no one was remotely talking about my play this game like at all.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tictock wrote:
Def don't think I'll play in any more closed setup games. At least this one had flip info, but having all KP blocked N1 was pretty demoralizing and not having a clue what the roles did even after flipping felt pretty meh.

Idk, just not my cup of tea I suppose.

On April 16 2016 09:43 sicklucker wrote:
Super made some really good points about how unbalanced it is for third part to win. There was like 16 players? 100/8 =12.5 and I feel thats around how often you expect third party to be able to win this.

As someone who has no idea how setups are made what do you expect third partys expected winrate to be? Now 33% seems a little much but 12% seems really low.

Not only do I have to be the last player alive basicly but I had to dodge two inct roles mafia kp town kp. and If im ever shot im pretty much outed or on lifesupport for a day. 12% might be generous