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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:24 GMT
#621
On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
These posts seem quite incongruent.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I think ima vote alakaslam.
Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.:
On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.

waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position

On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.

But let's see

I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch.

On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute

This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum.

On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):

##Vote tumblewood

This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here.

Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose.

If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option.

These are excellent points

Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/

And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.

"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?

Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="<script id="gpt-impl-0.4265876467571826" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script>http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you.

Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list.


hmm
If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.


How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum?

Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say.


Because I don't think scum is capable of seeing that unless they know it's true.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 10 2016 13:25 GMT
#622
On March 10 2016 22:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
On March 10 2016 21:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me.

How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on.

Come on Kush.

Are we reading different games lol.

Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific.

Mindmelding.

I also like his tone this game. Extremely happy and carefree.
For example the joy he expressed when people townread him. It was super likely to come from town.

You are extremely tunneled on that early game tidbit that was pretty null. It could easily be town trying to get game going.


I've remember some of your mindmelding and none of it is about why someone is scum. I don't see why scum can't mindmeld with you about townreads or what someone's intentions were.
Have you ever played with scumShape? It's scary as fuck because he looks super town, writes a lot, and his tone is very happy and carefree.

Yes, but the mindmelding are about questions that solve the game.
Would be really impressive he can ask the correct questions at the correct time.

I have not seen him as scum I think. But this would be really scary.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 10 2016 13:34 GMT
#623
Nha. I think Rels yesterday felt like he could be impulsive as scum but failed to do so in a townie way. There is really no change in his logic after both me and Shape explained it could be town geript.

Shape is without doubt town Kush. Look how he approached geript yesterday. You can see him analyze the geript unvote and see him think about it. The difference between Rels and Shape really is mafia vs town.

I think Rels thought town would be more outraged and decided to play outraged till he went to bed and re-asses in the morning if needed. But because I was pretty chill about it instantly he forgot to adapt his playstyle.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 10 2016 13:35 GMT
#624
But I guess I could be reaching again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 13:43 GMT
#625
On March 10 2016 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
Looking at Rels, as his kneejerk reactions to Slam and geript give me pause

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 19:39 Rels wrote:
I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape?

A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

kush pressures Shape into giving a read.
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape?

A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.

This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion.
Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually.
But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me".
I also didn't like these:
On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town?

If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness?
Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town?

Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious.

On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain

Yup.
On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing?


Giving reads is what this game is about.
Why are you so opposed to it?

Cool you dodged the question about commitment.
And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now.

Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above.

Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure.


I completely disagreed with how he interpreted Shape's early game. I thought Shape's responses to Vivax were town indicative. Anyone that's able to post as much as he was as freely as he was probably isn't mafia.

Then you're not aware of Shape playing a 30-pages scum game recently where he was townread for freely posting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22079 Posts
March 10 2016 13:46 GMT
#626
kush can you just vote slam or me so this game stops stagnating? Im not sure if i will be around this evening, im sure I dont want to be around for long given how shit some players are this game, i dont even care if i get lynched, it would be a blessing.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 13:48 GMT
#627
On March 10 2016 09:34 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 19:43 Rels wrote:
I don't like this from Vivax:
On March 08 2016 08:34 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
[quote]
A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.


whats the point of you mentioning me reporting in and not doing much then if its completely nai apparently

scum points for you and town points for kush

On March 08 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote:
i also give you 1 minute to tell me where the carotic sinus is

Serious post about Shape being potentially scum, immediately (it's 1 minute later and it's the next post in the thread) followed by a joke post. There is a disconnect in the way Vivax is playing the game there. He's serious and posting a scumread on a guy, and immediately after he's posting a joke to the guy he's scumreading.


This is along my line of thinking but there's definitely more to it than just the one question.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.

A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.

yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.

Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).

Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.

geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them.


I don't understand his progression on Vivax, how he got from the post before to a strong townread here.

Notably, I also don't really care for his read on me as it shows a lack of investment in figuring out my motivations but nonetheless, it's there, I guess.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 01:40 Rels wrote:
geript might be town 'cause he's invested in his reads and because he reread the game. Not lynching him today.
Would be OK with tumble, slam and yamato in that order of preferrence.


Fights geript's meta read of Slam, and then says he wants to lynch him? His justification seems weak in the above post "Slam isn't looking for scum."

Wanting to lynch me for...??? Has barely commented on any particular post of mine, and actually DISAGREED WITH KOSHI'S CASE

I strongly dislike the inconsistency of Rels' reads.

There is no fucking inconsistency.
My first batch of reads were my thoughts after reading the few pages there were at the time. Of course they are going to evolve.
Vivas has been pushing to game forward with his activity + questionning. He's very likely town.
I've been saying all game than Slam can be found as scum when he's not doing anything to advance it. I've fought geript's meta read 'cause I think it was wrong. When Slam continued to have no scumread, I scumread him.
You claimed to have read my filter but you have missed everything I've said about Slam all game ?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:49 GMT
#628
On March 10 2016 22:46 Vivax wrote:
kush can you just vote slam or me so this game stops stagnating? Im not sure if i will be around this evening, im sure I dont want to be around for long given how shit some players are this game, i dont even care if i get lynched, it would be a blessing.


i want to look to close read slam (and tumble's) recent activity. I've just skimmed over it so far.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22079 Posts
March 10 2016 13:52 GMT
#629
On March 10 2016 22:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 22:46 Vivax wrote:
kush can you just vote slam or me so this game stops stagnating? Im not sure if i will be around this evening, im sure I dont want to be around for long given how shit some players are this game, i dont even care if i get lynched, it would be a blessing.


i want to look to close read slam (and tumble's) recent activity. I've just skimmed over it so far.


dude we don't have time for that. Just lynch slam please, if he's mafia gerupt is mafia easy game.

you are getting distracted by stuff that's not relevant.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 13:53 GMT
#630
On March 10 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 09:34 yamato77 wrote:
On March 08 2016 19:43 Rels wrote:
I don't like this from Vivax:
On March 08 2016 08:34 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
[quote]

About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.


whats the point of you mentioning me reporting in and not doing much then if its completely nai apparently

scum points for you and town points for kush

On March 08 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote:
i also give you 1 minute to tell me where the carotic sinus is

Serious post about Shape being potentially scum, immediately (it's 1 minute later and it's the next post in the thread) followed by a joke post. There is a disconnect in the way Vivax is playing the game there. He's serious and posting a scumread on a guy, and immediately after he's posting a joke to the guy he's scumreading.


This is along my line of thinking but there's definitely more to it than just the one question.

On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.

A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.

yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.

Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).

Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.

geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them.


I don't understand his progression on Vivax, how he got from the post before to a strong townread here.

Notably, I also don't really care for his read on me as it shows a lack of investment in figuring out my motivations but nonetheless, it's there, I guess.

On March 10 2016 01:40 Rels wrote:
geript might be town 'cause he's invested in his reads and because he reread the game. Not lynching him today.
Would be OK with tumble, slam and yamato in that order of preferrence.


Fights geript's meta read of Slam, and then says he wants to lynch him? His justification seems weak in the above post "Slam isn't looking for scum."

Wanting to lynch me for...??? Has barely commented on any particular post of mine, and actually DISAGREED WITH KOSHI'S CASE

I strongly dislike the inconsistency of Rels' reads.

Yeah that is kinda if strange. Also look at his read progession on me:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 19:39 Rels wrote:
I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape?

A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

kush pressures Shape into giving a read.
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape?

A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.

This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion.
Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually.
But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me".
I also didn't like these:
On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town?

If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness?
Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town?

Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious.

On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain

Yup.
On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing?


Giving reads is what this game is about.
Why are you so opposed to it?

Cool you dodged the question about commitment.
And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now.

Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above.

Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure.

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On March 09 2016 06:28 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 06:18 Vivax wrote:
town heroes:

shape
kush
vivax

town zeroes:

koshi
yamato

not even gonna try:

Slam

I dont know yet:

Rels

My current early maybe shit guess:

gerupt
morningwood

This look very much like my mind right now. You are lower than that, yamato is closer to null 'cause he is more reactive than I would like. geript's meta read on Slam is fixed when it should have evolved given everything that's been said in thread. Tumblewood has 3 posts which contains one townread one slight townread and one null read.

I understand the fact that I apparently a obv town, but I feel that Rels would of at least explain the change a bit more, considering that he did with the other ones. Maybe he town read me during the change, But i can not see him agreeing to the fact that I am his highest TR after him saying i did something he thought scum AI.

Again, my first reads were weak and I've only stated them so the game could advance. As the game went you've been very involved and saying smart things. You're very likely town.
Changing reads is NOT scum indicative. Especially since there is a reason for them to change. Furthermore, I am a very good scum. You will never see me as scum changing read without restating what I previously thought. Here I would say something like "Shape's first post was kinda bad but since blablabla that's why I townread him now." Here I don't care as much about me being consistent, I want to find scum. And I'm beginning to be angry of being scumread when I'm obviously trying to solve the fucking game.
On March 10 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:
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On March 10 2016 08:32 Rels wrote:
Well, good night Bros
Sorry koshi for the attack. Please stop being annoying. There is a reason nobody is attacking shape

And I know this post is a while after, but now he is sus. me basically (unless this is a joke?) Idk how much this factors in though because he was gone for awhile and might of rethought.

This has nothing to do with reads. Koshi said he was angry that people were ad homing him and not you when you were saying the same things.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:55 GMT
#631
On March 10 2016 22:52 Vivax wrote:
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On March 10 2016 22:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 22:46 Vivax wrote:
kush can you just vote slam or me so this game stops stagnating? Im not sure if i will be around this evening, im sure I dont want to be around for long given how shit some players are this game, i dont even care if i get lynched, it would be a blessing.


i want to look to close read slam (and tumble's) recent activity. I've just skimmed over it so far.


dude we don't have time for that. Just lynch slam please, if he's mafia gerupt is mafia easy game.

you are getting distracted by stuff that's not relevant.


dont pressure me bro!
i have time today to read over everything and make a good decision.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 13:57 GMT
#632
On March 10 2016 15:01 geript wrote:
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On March 10 2016 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Alakaslam (4): geript, Vivax, Rels, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog
Vivax (3): Tumblewood, yamato77, Alakaslam, geript
Tumblewood (1): Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, Vivax
Rels (1): Koshi
yamato77 (0): Koshi
geript (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting (0):

At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.
The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

This is a really odd vote count in general. Rels has basically been disagreeing with my meta read for most of the game so far.

Disagreeing with your meta read is different from being against a slam lynch. I've been leaning on Slam scum more and more as time passed on, and I voted him after his post agreeing with you on Vivax which was nonsensical on several levels. You're reaching for explanation there.
On March 10 2016 15:01 geript wrote:
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On March 09 2016 06:30 Vivax wrote:
yea fwiw slam doesn't look scummy to me, im really happy hes playing his "new style". He's capable of being a good townie as shown when he was saitama, so for now I don't feel like lynching him

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On March 09 2016 21:17 Vivax wrote:
ima talk things through with competent players when they're back, I think geript might not even be wrong about Slam, but if I think thta it's not cause of the stuff he posts which requires me to sheep geripts meta reads blindly which I was slightly willing to do before he started vomiting in my face, but cause Shape rightly pointed out that slam's PoE would have looked odd, besides that he wasn't pushing it at all.

Saitama was quite better than that.

Hell Vivax has even been trying to push Tumble for scum while trying to convince Tumble to vote for Slam. There's tumble who's basically soft buddied me all game. Then there's Shape who's main thoughts on Slam have been related to Slam's townreads/PoE post.

Basically, it's a wagon of me and 4 people who are ok to lynch but not terribly interested in lynching. On top of that, You have Vivax and Tumble who look to be opposite alignments voting together. Plus we have Yam, Kush, and Koshi all voting someone different and I was leaning town on all three. Slam looks like a bad lynch unless Rels or tumble is bussing; I don't think Slam/Shape is a realisitic pair but I could be wrong there.

Vivax is not a possible busser ? I thought you scumread him like a lot ?
Tumble is a possible busser ? I thought he was confirmed town ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22079 Posts
March 10 2016 14:01 GMT
#633
On March 10 2016 22:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On March 10 2016 22:52 Vivax wrote:
On March 10 2016 22:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 22:46 Vivax wrote:
kush can you just vote slam or me so this game stops stagnating? Im not sure if i will be around this evening, im sure I dont want to be around for long given how shit some players are this game, i dont even care if i get lynched, it would be a blessing.


i want to look to close read slam (and tumble's) recent activity. I've just skimmed over it so far.


dude we don't have time for that. Just lynch slam please, if he's mafia gerupt is mafia easy game.

you are getting distracted by stuff that's not relevant.


dont pressure me bro!
i have time today to read over everything and make a good decision.


There is really only one decision you have to make and its me vs slam. You can't convince people on my wagon to do anything else, they're bad and stubborn (koshi), noob or mafia (tumble) or trolling (yamato).
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 14:01 GMT
#634
On March 10 2016 19:09 Koshi wrote:
1. Rels/Vivax
2. Vivax/yamato
3. Rels/yamato

Koshi I'm not scum. Stop scumreading me for no reason. STOP. I'm tired. The only reason you've stated a long time ago was "Rels is not sure about some reads, saying X could be town but also scum" or something like that; It doesn't make sense. Fucking stop you're annoying.
I suppose you're talkinga bout this fucking post:
On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.

A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.

yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.

Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).

Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.

geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them.

So. 4 people I'm not that sure on. Just after that I concludfe you are super likely town and geript is maybe town. This is not scummy and I'm tired of you being in my town games. You lynched me in nutcracker and melee. You townread me on crossfire and pyp. Stop being fuycking dumb and sotp saying I'm scummy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22079 Posts
March 10 2016 14:02 GMT
#635
Wow tumble isnt even voting me but slam, I guess that redeems him.

So yea geript and slam is just the easiest, straightforward solution. One martyred and shows zero will to solve the game, the other unvotes his nr. 1 scumread after he did stuff that was actually scummy.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 14:03 GMT
#636
On March 10 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
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On March 10 2016 21:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me.

How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on.

Come on Kush.

Are we reading different games lol.

Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific.

Mindmelding.

I also like his tone this game. Extremely happy and carefree.
For example the joy he expressed when people townread him. It was super likely to come from town.

You are wrong. Shape is town for being smart and involved in the game. Do NOT townread him for being happy and carefree ever. He's proved he can do that as town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 14:03 GMT
#637
scum*
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22079 Posts
March 10 2016 14:04 GMT
#638
Rels you can't talk reason into koshi, you just cant.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 14:05 GMT
#639
On March 10 2016 22:02 Koshi wrote:
My biggest reason to suspect Rels is that has no conviction in solving the game and his reads.

-"We need the info from the flip"
- The push on Alakaslam
- "geript 100% mafia even if Alakaslam isn't mafia"
- The constant double reads. "x is mafia but x could be town because this reason" "x is town but could be mafia because y"
- How he attempted to read me twice but cannot commit an alignment on me.


I would feel better voting him first because I think he really is mafia but Vivax deserves to be out of this game.

I FUCKING COMMITED TO AN ALIGNMENT ON YOU
On March 10 2016 01:27 Rels wrote:
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On March 09 2016 19:07 Koshi wrote:
72h for D1 is fine. I wouldn't go 96h though.

Alakaslam might be mafia but I don't know tbh. I feel like my mafia pool doesn't want to commit on him while they should have if they were town. Therefore, I don't want to lynch him. I don't know if I want to trust the godread from geript either, which would be the only reason I could see myself Alakaslam atm.

Tumble might be mafia but I don't think so. Roleplayers have a very high % being mafia. I don't know why that is, but it is true. #experience. But again, my own read on him is town.


Kush town but wrong atm.
Shape obv town.
geript town.

The bold is strongly town indicative I think. It shows a will to solve the game via finding the scumteam.

Show me how my fucking push on slam is not logical.
The rest is not scum indicative
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2016 14:09 GMT
#640
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript
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