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On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote:
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript
np we just lynch both of them in no particular order, just lynch one of them today.
try to be level headed and ignore all the distractions, we literally lynch slam and geript and win the game.
the best next thing that can happen is that one of them dies, doesnt matter which one.
it will even be a miracle if that happens with players like yams and koshi in the game.
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On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote:
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript
I can see a busy geript looking at the thread near EoD, being like this wagon smells fishy, and getting cold feet.
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On March 10 2016 23:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote:
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript I can see a busy geript looking at the thread near EoD, being like this wagon smells fishy, and getting cold feet.
kush have you been smoking weed again?
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i can smell it dont lie to me
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On March 10 2016 23:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote:
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript I can see a busy geript looking at the thread near EoD, being like this wagon smells fishy, and getting cold feet. kush have you been smoking weed again?
what is unreasonable about that?
I've been thinking about geript and trying to empathize with his play. His read on alaka was probably mostly posturing.
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ITT: 2 mafia guys trying to convince the lost sheep.
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On March 10 2016 22:34 Koshi wrote:
Nha. I think Rels yesterday felt like he could be impulsive as scum but failed to do so in a townie way. There is really no change in his logic after both me and Shape explained it could be town geript.
Shape is without doubt town Kush. Look how he approached geript yesterday. You can see him analyze the geript unvote and see him think about it. The difference between Rels and Shape really is mafia vs town.
I think Rels thought town would be more outraged and decided to play outraged till he went to bed and re-asses in the morning if needed. But because I was pretty chill about it instantly he forgot to adapt his playstyle.
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+ Show Spoiler + Best knowing grin I could find.
"What have I done?!"
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Why would mafia do that... it brings huge obvious intention to him. MAfia is never going to do that to save a scumbuddy. only thing I can think of is wifom, which you can't base a read on.
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On March 10 2016 23:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Why would mafia do that... it brings huge obvious intention to him. MAfia is never going to do that to save a scumbuddy. only thing I can think of is wifom, which you can't base a read on.
heres 1 possible explanation:
Geript D1 busses slam first for max wifom.
Then he tries to sneak to me and convince people to lynch me instead and somehow pretends sla
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m isnt as scummy as me.
then slam claims scum.
geript does the only possible thing to keep trying to win and unvotes slam.
ta-da
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Geript is scum and needs to die today
Why ? He ninja unvoted Slam at the last minute before deadline. That is enough because it contradicts his mindset for the whole game. It doesn't make sense because:
1. His read on Slam
geript has been convinced all game Slam is scum. Apparently it's a meta read that works 100% of the time. Knowing that, it doens't make sense for geript to unvote Slam after saying these
+ Show Spoiler +On March 08 2016 14:24 geript wrote:
Skimmed through. Stopped to eat. Shape's biggest explanation of a non-read is really fucking odd. I'll figure that shit out later. Slam isn't trolling. He's not trolling all wrong too. There's a distinct lack of Slam town fun. So just lynch him and after that idk.
On March 08 2016 16:54 geript wrote:
I couldn't care less about Vivax so long as he votes for Slam. I don't have any accurate meta read on him and there's obvious scum.
Do you really want me to post a page and a half discourse about why Slam plays Mafia and how he approaches playing from both sides? Do you really want me to show you how he's not trolling? On top of that do you want me to show you how he's even not trolling how he does when he's scum? I've made this case like idk 4-5 times previously. I'm always right about it.
Game is simple. I find 1 scum and figure out if you're town and if Koshi is town. Literally all I need to do. On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. On March 09 2016 02:02 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw. Slam smurfing is a bit different. It kinda depends on how interested he is in not being found out and how long that interest lasts. On March 09 2016 02:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 22:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@getript how long has it been since you'll played with alakaslam? Tone-wise he's gotten a lot darker as of late.
I think as scum he usually gives a strong effort early to look townie, which I'm not seeing here. So I don't think a scumread is justified. Don't know. But there have been longer gaps and meta has always been accurate. He always tries to look however he thinks he'll be town read (as Mafia). It's not the same thing. Plus, it's not like Slam doesn't know about my godread on him. On March 09 2016 15:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 07:41 Alakaslam wrote:
So koshi, Rels, tumble wood likely towns
That leaves a lot of people.
I think Kush is probably town, and Yamato
That leaves less people but still a lot.
Can those I mentioned please talk about who looks scummy outside these? (As in, not Yamato, Koshi)
I am having a hard time keeping tabs on this as I am about to pick up my pupil from school Someone brought it up, but people seem to have missed it. Slam has 5 townreads on this post; when he adds himself that's only 3 people available to lynch left. There's 9 players and 2 mafia; there's literally zero reason to care who's the town in the last 3 as you can just lynch them with impugnity and win game. Like it's not even that hard. On top of that, Slam hasn't trolled at all since his return. There's no real fun-seeking behavior. There's no jolly to him. The closes thing is a token HIJOLE. There's no weaving of wanting to have fun between thoughts. Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 05:22 Alakaslam wrote:On March 08 2016 16:18 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 16:16 yamato77 wrote:
I want to lynch Vivax.
Unsurprisingly. He might be town. Unlike Slam. This is cute and such old meta. Go read Saitamaofonepunch and catch up for the chupazic way. And check that game where I was exactly like this and Marv lynches me and rayn goes apeshit because he thinks I was purposely trying to break my meta instead of busy with tutoring Regarding this, for further reference and proof of my godread, there was a game a while ago (I lose track since I play so infrequently now) that in post game or obs (i forget which) which I correctly read Slam as town despite him getting lynched. Rayn and I even talked about why in post game. Slam has slowly had changing meta for a while now (years really I think at this point), but the cores to it are the same. There's been a game or two that I've done analysis for I'm pretty sure that I've pointed this out. You're more than welcome to read them (the games, the analysis, whatever). I have a god read on Slam. He is scum. If you want to win, just lynch slam. On March 09 2016 15:33 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 06:32 Rels wrote:geript answer this please: On March 09 2016 05:42 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 02:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw. Slam smurfing is a bit different. It kinda depends on how interested he is in not being found out and how long that interest lasts. Why are you talking to me about Slam smurfing here ? Do you think he smurfed in Outlaw ? Cause that is not the case. Did you open the link I posted just before the post you quoted here ? Probably a misquote of something. Especially as that's been a topic earlier. In regards to your earlier thing about how my meta read should have changed or whatever... No. Meta reads don't change based on what random schmucks say. I've read/watched enough games and been current with Slam. I don't need to update. The meta hasn't changed; how he expresses is slightly different and that's been covered.
Now the only mention of his read on Slam post deadline is:
On March 10 2016 15:01 geript wrote:
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Slam looks like a bad lynch unless Rels or tumble is bussing; I don't think Slam/Shape is a realisitic pair but I could be wrong there.
Slam's play has not evolved since he's made geript made his meta read. The only reason he's now not that sure is association. It's not a reason for not lynching someone scummy D1 and geript is an experienced player that know this.
2. geript shared my mindset of we can't have a D1 that is too long
On March 09 2016 15:47 geript wrote:
Either way. I need to sleep. Long shift of playing in ball abscesses and shit... Literally.
You guys need to understand that we need to lynch. We have limited time in order to be able to lynch scum and burning 72 or 96 hours on D1 is unacceptable especially when we will always lose 24 hours for night phases. So we can go 4-4-5 which will assuredly end in 3 bad lynches or go 3-3-3-3 which will be better but lowers odds of a productive lynch on D3/4 as interest wanes. Best option is to lynch and keep the days and information moving before shit stagnates.
In his own words, 72 hours D1 is unacceptable. That is what geript believes. It makes no sense that geript would extend the D1 to 72 hours by unvoting his scumread because of D1 association reads.
3. His big post post-lynch
On March 10 2016 15:01 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:Vote Count - Day 1 Alakaslam (4): geript, Vivax, Rels, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog Vivax (3): Tumblewood, yamato77, Alakaslam, geript Tumblewood (1): Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, VivaxRels (1): Koshi yamato77 (0): Koshigeript (0): AlakaslamNot Voting (0): At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted. This is a really odd vote count in general. Rels has basically been disagreeing with my meta read for most of the game so far. Vivax is the guy who's pushed basically anything. Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 06:30 Vivax wrote:
yea fwiw slam doesn't look scummy to me, im really happy hes playing his "new style". He's capable of being a good townie as shown when he was saitama, so for now I don't feel like lynching him Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 21:17 Vivax wrote:
ima talk things through with competent players when they're back, I think geript might not even be wrong about Slam, but if I think thta it's not cause of the stuff he posts which requires me to sheep geripts meta reads blindly which I was slightly willing to do before he started vomiting in my face, but cause Shape rightly pointed out that slam's PoE would have looked odd, besides that he wasn't pushing it at all.
Saitama was quite better than that. Hell Vivax has even been trying to push Tumble for scum while trying to convince Tumble to vote for Slam. There's tumble who's basically soft buddied me all game. Then there's Shape who's main thoughts on Slam have been related to Slam's townreads/PoE post. Basically, it's a wagon of me and 4 people who are ok to lynch but not terribly interested in lynching. On top of that, You have Vivax and Tumble who look to be opposite alignments voting together. Plus we have Yam, Kush, and Koshi all voting someone different and I was leaning town on all three. Slam looks like a bad lynch unless Rels or tumble is bussing; I don't think Slam/Shape is a realisitic pair but I could be wrong there.
I had a good reason to vote Slam, so the part on me is BS.
Tumble is a possible busser there ?
Vivax is not a possible busser there ?
This post is written to explain to try to explain his ninja vote. It is not consistent with geript's read, which is Vivax scum (not a busser ?) Tumble town (possible busser ?) Shape newbie town (could be a pair ?).
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On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote:
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript
This is quite false but we will see what happens
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On March 10 2016 23:19 Vivax wrote:
m isnt as scummy as me.
then slam claims scum.
geript does the only possible thing to keep trying to win and unvotes slam.
ta-da
I appreciate the huge insult to my intelligence behind believing this plan.
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Rels what is your read on yamato?
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Slam did you set on who is the scumteam from your POV ?
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On March 10 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Rels what is your read on yamato?
Scum if Slam is not.
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On March 10 2016 23:28 Rels wrote:Scum if Slam is not.
Why is he not scum with Slam?
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On March 10 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:28 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Rels what is your read on yamato? Scum if Slam is not. Why is he not scum with Slam?
Because geript is scum. See the post above. Then you can vote him.
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