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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 09 2016 23:55 GMT
#541
On March 10 2016 08:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Alakaslam (4): geript, Vivax, Rels, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog
Vivax (3): Tumblewood, yamato77, Alakaslam, geript
Tumblewood (1): Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, Vivax
Rels (1): Koshi
yamato77 (0): Koshi
geript (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting (0):

At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.
The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

Oddest set of ppl voting w/ me ever.

Has to be more to it than that, right geript?
Writer@WriterYamato
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 09 2016 23:57 GMT
#542
On March 10 2016 08:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Alakaslam (4): geript, Vivax, Rels, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog
Vivax (3): Tumblewood, yamato77, Alakaslam, geript
Tumblewood (1): Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, Vivax
Rels (1): Koshi
yamato77 (0): Koshi
geript (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting (0):

At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.
The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

Oddest set of ppl voting w/ me ever.

I understand this, but can you explain it more and your thoughts on it.
I want a story, not 1 sentence.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2016 23:57 GMT
#543
+1 on ↑


also sleep time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 09 2016 23:57 GMT
#544
JEEZ I AM JUST FUCKING MINDMELDING WITH EVERYFUCKING ONE!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 09 2016 23:58 GMT
#545
On March 10 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
goddamn

"on" should be "one"



Welcome to the club that gets flamed for no reason at all.

I flamed you because you said I had reads that I clearly did not.

You're lucky I wasn't more of an ass, you've literally been fabricating reads of mine this entire game as a basis for why you think I'm mafia. It's absurd.
Writer@WriterYamato
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 09 2016 23:59 GMT
#546
Acutally it a pretty meh reason. If he thought slam was scum, then at max, 1 team mate can bus him. So you stilled had to have a big change of heart or though 2 of the people on slam were more scum than your god read.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 09 2016 23:59 GMT
#547
Thought*
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:01 GMT
#548
I have to say, I hate kush's vote placement in that votecount geript quoted. Why is he voting tumble again? Does he have an opinion on Vivax or Slam?

More on this story on tonight's news.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:05 GMT
#549
On March 09 2016 23:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 15:23 Tumblewood wrote:
My preferred lynch order is Vivax (for asking questions that do not help to solve the game) --> Slam (idk, sheeping geript on this), and unless either has a defense, good night.


So he makes some easy townreads then he comes up with this gem.
He is scumreading vivax questioning him about his reads:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 08:59 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi is town 100% (okay, 90%) for his big post on yamato. If mafia were trying to get into the thread with a big read, yamato was a poor target at that point for having done little of note. Koshi showed that he was really examining the thread.
Also, his post immediately after that corrected something he said was made with the intent of informing town-- mafia would just leave it because most people would just ignore it or miss it entirely.


Step up your activity if possible or tell us why if you can't , would also be nice to know how experienced you are at mafia.

I'm particularly interested into knowing whether you think geript's reason to read you is sufficient to read you as town

I can't be active during my classes (except for some small 5-10 minute periods), which are from 8-3 PST. Wednesdays and weekends my schedule is more flexible. I also just post less than most players, usually about one page of filter per day cycle.
I have 2.5 (+1 observed) game of mafia on this site and 70 games of Town of "not even real mafia" Salem.
Geript didn't really give a reason for his read of me, so... no? What are you so interested to find out from that?


do you think geript is mafia for not really having a reason to TR you?

Would you even care if we lynched you?

To me it looks like omgus disguised under the misrepresentation of "vivax is asking too many dumb questions."

His second scumread is to sheep Geript on a read he doesn't even understand. How does he expect Alakaslam to defend himself from "you're scum because godread"?
I think town might say "until they do something townie" but tumble says he's waiting for a defense against something that can't be defended against.

I think this is a poor case against Tumble.

1) Vivax did indeed spend a lot of the early game asking pointless questions about anatomy. He really only gave a solid read after I told him he was trash. Even since, he's been more interested in fighting with Koshi than finding mafia. It's pretty funny IMO.

2) Tumble expects SOMETHING from Slam as a defense. Why is sheeping a townread a bad thing, exactly? I don't agree with doing it but I can see how someone in his position does.

Not a solid reason for a #1 scumread IMO.
Writer@WriterYamato
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 10 2016 00:06 GMT
#550
Believe it or not, I'm not mad because I want to answer Koshi and Shape

I don't have them (yet, if I ever will is still in question), because I value my reads.

But hey, I haven't been scum hunting, so...

Anyway, my town reads were posted but remember, (wait you can't because you couldn't all possibly know what I know simply by being me) I am an easy pocket so some of those TR are based on flattering me. So, I need to reevaluate and or move out.

However this generated discussion that I can check out when I am done tutoring; I am amused at the 72hr day option. I need to read the OP.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:09 GMT
#551
These posts seem quite incongruent.

On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I think ima vote alakaslam.
Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.

waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position

On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.

But let's see

I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch.

On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute

This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum.

On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):

##Vote tumblewood

This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here.

Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose.

If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option.

These are excellent points

Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/

And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.

"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?

Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you.

Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.

On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list.


hmm
If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.


How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum?

Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say.
Writer@WriterYamato
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 10 2016 00:17 GMT
#552
On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
These posts seem quite incongruent.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I think ima vote alakaslam.
Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.:
On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.

waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position

On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.

But let's see

I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch.

On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute

This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum.

On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):

##Vote tumblewood

This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here.

Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose.

If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option.

These are excellent points

Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/

And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.

"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?

Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you.

Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list.


hmm
If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.


How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum?

Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say.

And you'd be wrong.

Kush can completely feel this way genuinely without being anything other than "in the future"; seeing Rels good points, he agrees. But, upon deciding I am likely town, he re-analyzes Rels push as possibly scum motivated, due to the reasons he stated.

This clarification in no way means I agree with him. I have put no thought into it at all.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:21 GMT
#553
Looking at Rels, as his kneejerk reactions to Slam and geript give me pause

On March 08 2016 19:39 Rels wrote:
I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape?

A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

kush pressures Shape into giving a read.
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape?

A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.

This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion.
Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually.
But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me".
I also didn't like these:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town?

If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness?
Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town?

Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain

Yup.
On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing?


Giving reads is what this game is about.
Why are you so opposed to it?

Cool you dodged the question about commitment.
And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now.

Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above.

Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure.


I completely disagreed with how he interpreted Shape's early game. I thought Shape's responses to Vivax were town indicative. Anyone that's able to post as much as he was as freely as he was probably isn't mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:23 GMT
#554
On March 10 2016 09:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
These posts seem quite incongruent.

On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I think ima vote alakaslam.
Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.:
On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.

waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position

On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.

But let's see

I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch.

On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute

This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum.

On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):

##Vote tumblewood

This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here.

Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose.

If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option.

These are excellent points

Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/

And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.

"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?

Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you.

Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.

On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list.


hmm
If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.


How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum?

Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say.

And you'd be wrong.

Kush can completely feel this way genuinely without being anything other than "in the future"; seeing Rels good points, he agrees. But, upon deciding I am likely town, he re-analyzes Rels push as possibly scum motivated, due to the reasons he stated.

This clarification in no way means I agree with him. I have put no thought into it at all.

Where did he decide you were town? In his filter he says he thinks you're mafia because he agrees with Rels' point, and says he's going to vote you. But then he doesn't? And makes that post? Questionable play.
Writer@WriterYamato
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 10 2016 00:28 GMT
#555
Here's how I felt circa 11:45 today:
I had a hunch that Vivax was the killer. It all lined up. Slam, his partner-in-crime? Well, it's hard to be sure, but it was a good place to start from.
Then I saw the vote tally. Three people shared my suspicion toward Slam, but it was hard to find anyone willing to vote against Vivax. I had to catch the twelve o'clock, and time was running out. We shouldn't waste another day without acting, and... Slam had just practically conceded to his own lynch.
Had the support been different, perhaps I would have put my tally under "Vivax", but I saw that going nowhere. I slipped my tally under "Slam" and hurried to the station.
good times for all
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 10 2016 00:29 GMT
#556
On March 10 2016 09:23 yamato77 wrote:
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On March 10 2016 09:17 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
These posts seem quite incongruent.

On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I think ima vote alakaslam.
Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.:
On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.

waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position

On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.

But let's see

I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch.

On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute

This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum.

On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):

##Vote tumblewood

This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here.

Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose.

If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option.

These are excellent points

Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/

And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.

"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?

Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you.

Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.

On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list.


hmm
If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.


How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum?

Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say.

And you'd be wrong.

Kush can completely feel this way genuinely without being anything other than "in the future"; seeing Rels good points, he agrees. But, upon deciding I am likely town, he re-analyzes Rels push as possibly scum motivated, due to the reasons he stated.

This clarification in no way means I agree with him. I have put no thought into it at all.

Where did he decide you were town? In his filter he says he thinks you're mafia because he agrees with Rels' point, and says he's going to vote you. But then he doesn't? And makes that post? Questionable play.

That on the whole makes more sense than the specific two quotes you included.

However, he may have simply not announced his read's change. But I distract, I think you are more in tune with the thread- especially right now- as you have been reading and aren't tutoring at the same time
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 10 2016 00:30 GMT
#557
holy shit wtf was that geript vote
it was a godread, you said...
good times for all
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 10 2016 00:32 GMT
#558
On March 10 2016 09:28 Tumblewood wrote:
Here's how I felt circa 11:45 today:
I had a hunch that Vivax was the killer. It all lined up. Slam, his partner-in-crime? Well, it's hard to be sure, but it was a good place to start from.
Then I saw the vote tally. Three people shared my suspicion toward Slam, but it was hard to find anyone willing to vote against Vivax. I had to catch the twelve o'clock, and time was running out. We shouldn't waste another day without acting, and... Slam had just practically conceded to his own lynch.
Had the support been different, perhaps I would have put my tally under "Vivax", but I saw that going nowhere. I slipped my tally under "Slam" and hurried to the station.

The events when you got off were, well,



Quite "Shazam"
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:34 GMT
#559
On March 08 2016 19:43 Rels wrote:
I don't like this from Vivax:
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On March 08 2016 08:34 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape?

A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.


whats the point of you mentioning me reporting in and not doing much then if its completely nai apparently

scum points for you and town points for kush

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On March 08 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote:
i also give you 1 minute to tell me where the carotic sinus is

Serious post about Shape being potentially scum, immediately (it's 1 minute later and it's the next post in the thread) followed by a joke post. There is a disconnect in the way Vivax is playing the game there. He's serious and posting a scumread on a guy, and immediately after he's posting a joke to the guy he's scumreading.


This is along my line of thinking but there's definitely more to it than just the one question.

On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.

A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.

yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.

Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).

Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.

geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them.


I don't understand his progression on Vivax, how he got from the post before to a strong townread here.

Notably, I also don't really care for his read on me as it shows a lack of investment in figuring out my motivations but nonetheless, it's there, I guess.

On March 10 2016 01:40 Rels wrote:
geript might be town 'cause he's invested in his reads and because he reread the game. Not lynching him today.
Would be OK with tumble, slam and yamato in that order of preferrence.


Fights geript's meta read of Slam, and then says he wants to lynch him? His justification seems weak in the above post "Slam isn't looking for scum."

Wanting to lynch me for...??? Has barely commented on any particular post of mine, and actually DISAGREED WITH KOSHI'S CASE

I strongly dislike the inconsistency of Rels' reads.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:41 GMT
#560
My reads, as of now:

Town
Slam (Reading his filter gives a green impression)
Koshi (just horribly wrong)
Tumble (Agrees with me on Vivax, maintains silly noir thing that costs effort)
Shapelog (early game was obv town and is a consensus townread)

Null
Geript (???)
Kush (posted reasons to doubt kush's alignment)
Rels (inconsistent read progression on multiple players, kneejerk "LYNCH THIS GUY" behavior at the expense of his other reads)

Mafia
Vivax (lol)
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