Who Wants to be a Millionaire Cell Mini Mafia

On February 25 2016 23:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


ya thanks for facilitating that communication, sirscumsalot

On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:


im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party.

I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier

On February 23 2016 08:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Inactive people in early cells is bad because there's not a lot of content to go off of

On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.

All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?

Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far

Rels:
FF => kinda useless, don't know. Hope he's chosen by 50/50 if he's town.

On February 24 2016 04:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
potential tinfoil is that one of damdred/ritoky is scum because surely at least one tried to obtain scum mayor? But I mean its not really THAT powerful to be mayor so meh. not really important

On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:


breshke scum

my updated list is

breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL

On February 26 2016 02:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

The ugh at the end indicates frustration right?
Why are you frustrated over an easy scum lynch?

On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:


im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party.

I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier

On February 23 2016 08:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Inactive people in early cells is bad because there's not a lot of content to go off of

On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.

All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?

Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far

Rels:
FF => kinda useless, don't know. Hope he's chosen by 50/50 if he's town.

On February 24 2016 04:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
potential tinfoil is that one of damdred/ritoky is scum because surely at least one tried to obtain scum mayor? But I mean its not really THAT powerful to be mayor so meh. not really important

On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:


breshke scum

my updated list is

breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL

On February 26 2016 02:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

The ugh at the end indicates frustration right?
Why are you frustrated over an easy scum lynch?

On February 26 2016 22:30 Rels wrote:
DF is scum and you should vote him

1. His townread on Breshke was bad

His townread on Breshke was based on two reasons. First:
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Breshke posted a few questions at the very beginning of the game. These questions were completely NAI if taken alone, and scum indicative as a whole as it's the only thing Breshke had done N0. DF townreading Breshke for this reason does not make sense: this read is fabricated.

Second reason:
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Too many people voted Breshke in a row, so Breshke has to be town.
Well, first this number is wrong: 6 people voted in a row when DF made this post. This migth mean nothing but it's way less extreme than DF made it out to be.
Secondly, he had kinda the same reaction to Palmar being lynched D1 in Star Wars; and Palmar flipped scum. He should have learned that several people piling on a guy doesn't m ean the guy is town. This looks like he used his star wars game town meta to create an excuse to townread Breshke.

2. His reaction to my VA read is not understandable

DF is suspicious of me because of my "bad VA town read". But he's saying at the same time VA could be town.
Vivax pressured him on that since why would I invent a reason to townread VA just to have an excuse to shit on my partner Breshke. His answer:

He dodges the question and says "Rels could be town actually". No explanation as to why he thought my VA read made me scum.

Later and even now he continues to be suspicious about me with the vague reason that I "did scummy stuff". Since he agreed I could be town and he just misunderstood my words on VA, I have no idea what "scummy stuff" he is talking about now.

3. He's making the difference between my VA read and ritoky's VA read when it's the same

ritoky and I had the same read with different words on VA. It doesn't make sense that he townreads ritoky for it and scurmeads me in the same time. These reads are fabricated.

4. He's spending a lot of time self metaing to prove his townieness
He's actually spending more time defending himself than doing anything else, especially lately. Here is a compilation of posts:
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5. His attitude before the 50/50 looked like he was scum with Breshke and waiting to see who the 50/50 ends up being on
Here is my post on him at the time:


6. He's STILL undecided on who is scum between LS and I
He started by shitting on my reads. Then when I fought back he switched to LS on the "LS scumread me when my reads align with him" thing. Since then he's been undecided. He doesn't know which one of us is scum. Like point 5 where he was undecided between VA and FF, it looks like he's waiting to see who is the easier mislynch between LS and I.
Actually here is his last post in the thread:


No answer.

7. NOT A REASON: him defending Breshke is NOT town indicative
Him defending Breshke is not scum indicative per se (except it is since his reasonning for townreading Breshke is fabricated). But it is NOT town indicative.
This is a game where you win when you get to three points. You scum team can have the best scum in the world, he is only going to bring his team 1 point if he's not lynched. He's not going to carry the game.
In a standard game this defense of "I wouldn't defend my partner hardcore" would be a little more true. Just a little bit, as scum usually don't push or defend each other hardcore. But in this game, where if VA had been lynched scum team would have gotten 1 point, and DF is going to be out of the game after today anyway, there is NO advantages to bus your teammate, as the end result in the best case scenario is a draw.

Conclusion
Lynch him, gets free point.

On February 26 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:

It does. I am a strong scum, I could have maybe get VA lynched instead of Breshke. Probably not but I would have probably tried, then use that same defense DF is using right now: "hey if I was scum I wouldn't have defended my partner like that!". Even if I didn't try, I would have never pushed my partner like I did, especially before knowing FF was confirmed town.

On February 23 2016 12:35 LightningStrike wrote:

Darth corrected himself after remembering Star Wars was played with with our entire cell lol......... It was true I did get townread pretty quickly in that game compared to Onegu so(shrugs). Darth just never had the pleasure of having to deal with scum Rels twice(His scum game was pretty solid). About people's responses to your post: Ritoky does have a decent point about my cell being easier to read as the game goes on. Doesn't help Rels haven't posted yet :\

On February 24 2016 22:46 Rels wrote:
My reads:

VA => aggressively posting his thoughts and scumreads

On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote:
basically this is where i am at:

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4) VA did his town meta thing

5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority

thus breshke i think breshke is currently the scum

On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:
Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them.

I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons.



Posts he was referencing:
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I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective.

VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented.

Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up

VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning

On February 25 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote:
Eh like Man VA might just have RL stuff. Going to vote the person who I think is scum.
##Vote: Breshke

On February 25 2016 05:31 Vivax wrote:


Why would Rels TR a town VA then, cause that would mean that he's bussing Bresh this very moment.

On February 25 2016 05:34 darthfoley wrote:


Because if Rels is town and we just disagree on what "aggressive" play is, and LS is mafia, it makes more sense. My cell has a third person people seem to be forgetting

On February 25 2016 23:54 Kuragari42 wrote:



1. At that time, FF seemed the most like scum, Breske was null-scum, and VA was null-scum with 1 post that I liked. I could see any of them as scum fairly easily.

2. I could understand people voting Breske if the votes were not this huge mountain upon him without much consideration for VA (who in my opinion has not done all that much to prove he is town).

3. I sorta alluded to my reasoning in #2.

4. I am not town reading Breske. I just want people to consider that VA is a possible scum before jumping on the bandwagon.

Teach is getting on me, will catch up on any future Qs later.

On February 23 2016 07:10 Breshke wrote:
Don't make me mayor because you probably don't want me in the final cell

On February 26 2016 04:08 Shapelog wrote:

Sure.
(this was yesterday, btw. I am still up and about my Cell at the time. which is why Damdred and OWS is not colored.)

CELL A
Rit: Nothing making me think he is scum. Throughout his 5 page filter, He shows that he is willing to solve the game. And I like his 50/50 play. Town IMO.

SaltShaker: Saltshaker has really not done much, so Focusing on the stuff he has done. There are some things I do not like.

TR on FF. But then...

He was able to TR FF, which should narrow down 2 people being scum. But yet he claims that he can't read anyone in CELL D. Maybe he thought he read was weak. But that is kinda of a stretch when he says kura voting for FF makes FF town and:


Just Weird. I don't understand how he can be TR/TLing FF but yet say he can't read any of them.

Other than that, he has made some "helpful" posts (mainly Cell order.) Wish more from him though. I would like for him to explain the above. Right now he is Null (And out of POE right now, town)

Kura (The last readbender): Just so Little of Almost Anything.



Wants Cell A and B to go 1st. When asked about B, he replied with Shaperape (Love it by the way), and that he just wants me out. Cool, we have a person who doesn't give a fuck about who gets lynched. And he does not post any other reason but Shaperape. It is almost like he was pushing a ML.

He starts Reading FF as scum. Makes this weird bus strat post (which still makes no sense at all to me.) FF gets confirmed by 50/50. Kura goes on to question why the votes have piled on breskhe.

This seems weird to me. Like he has avoided reading Breskhe (at most he said he was Null)


But he focus heavily on VA afterwards. Feels off if both are Roughly Nulls.

Then in general his posts are below underwhelming...

I feel the Kura is the scum in this one. And if Breshke flips scum, That drives the nail in the coffin. He sounds just to focus on VA, Which would make sense, as he is defending Breshke basically by not talking about him. IF Breshke flips town, I going to look heavily into SL.

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CELL B:
Damdred: His post on order (the one he runs for mayor.) he does not heavily talk about (might of missed it.) our cell. Ok it could just be he forgot or it was our cell and X.
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Still do not understand anything a bout the term "tilting"

His read progression on Breshke (this cycle) is:







I can understand his read progression on breshke (Null -> Townie stuff -> Pressure vote -> scum/P). I have a bit of a prob. with him voting someone who he thought could be town, but he said it was for pressure to force the breshke out of his hole. Which I believe, Plus I've pressure voted b/4 as town, so Yeah.



<3. Though, do not understand how not getting town read = doing the opposite to get town read. I mean it just feels off. Idk why a townie would leave like that b/c of not getting town read.

So Damdred is solving the game, getting pissed and stuff like that. Things I find wrong are tinfoily stuff. Maybe I am being Paranoid and Damdred is really town. That last post I quoted makes me feel weird though, it does not make sense from a town preservative IMO.

OWS: The underwhelming one of the two.
Scum reads me.

Blah blah blah.


I do not understand how our cell is hard (In his pov) when both Him and damdred scum read me. Shouldn't he want to go 1st and get a point for town if he was certain? I'll admit, it is hard for me because I have 2 people who been towine and i know 1 is scum.

BUT for him at this point, he saw himself(town), Damdred (town), Shapelog(Scum). What is hard about that? nothing. You basically have figured out the cell (I your opinion) and should be pushing so.

Other than that, he has asked questions, gave some answers. Only 1 big post (WoT) and thats really it. Ik he has been busy with work, but I feel he could of done more.

If I had to pick, OBI is scum in the cell. Damdred might be scum, but Most of my grievances with him is tinfoily stuff. Thankfully I have 2 cycles before my cell is up, so I hope they become more clear as it goes on.

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CELL C: I was Rushed, Will Elaborate more after I get home.
LS-LS has not made a post that has really move me. He has not made a big post really, or anything like that. He has not really posted anything like a list of reads and stuff like that.

Thus, My TR has degenerate from LS.

Not a great reason to join the wagon. But W/e.

I kinda have LS in a POE situation here, his other 2 cell mates have been making big posts. V.S. LS who is very lax with his post size. I have a weak TL on him because of his overall relaxed tone (until that flip on FF. lol), but I could see him being scum.
After reading that again, I want to look at it more

RELS- I did not like his opening reads. Mostly because it was a clash of meta and content (I actually think, that in all my town games, I have actually posted a list of reads with the most being Null lol.) One sentence on a read back on his read on me does not make sense.

I do not understand how not TR damdred is scummy. Might just be confirmation Bias though.

He is questioning people and interrogating. He is trying to solve the game, which makes want to TR him. I do, however, wish he would not use meta so hard but what ever.

Darth- I am wishy on Darth. Some posts makes me want to TR him while others I find scummy. One thing i found weird was how after the Breshke wagon got heavily he started to go after LS and kind of did so during the middle of the cycle. Maybe it is just him trying to solve his cell since it's next.

Scum for this cell is either LS/Darth. I am rushed so I can not really deep read darth's filter to detrime if he is scum trying to live or town trying to figure out things..

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Cell D:

FF-Confirmed town.

VA, Refuses to give anything else. Is kinda of watching the clock too.
His reads aren't good either:

Next cell: Null
3rd Cell (E): Vivax/bum. With a "watch and see" on Vivax
4th and 5th: Obi and SL off of feels. No content to go off of.

I mean this guy just does not seem to care about the later part of the game (neither is FF but w/e). This is the only lynch we will know for SURE who is who (well i guess sucessful lynchs means you know who scum is.)

Breshke, has posted stuff, but now peaced. Said that VA was scum, but did a 180 the next post by going into his TR FF. Has not come back... Just really a whole host of probs. (+ Show Spoiler +)

Scum for this cell is prob. Breshke. But it literary is a shit fight between VA and Breshke. At least VA is here Vs. Breshke. I am trusting my gut, with my early Tl on VA. Plus, I can not forgive that 180 turn.

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CELL E:
Kush: Something that make me feel really good if breshke filps scum.

This is from D1, and is his 1st brag list. Idk Scum!Kush would put his team mate Scum!Breshke under the bus (especially when a juciy FF was there.) Also has pushed Breshke hard.
But enough of pre-associate reads (I done that enough this list.)

Overall I think he is town due to his posts. The only one I have Grievance with is:

I Still do not understand why he does not have to read me this game, especially when he has played in all my games and his cell going b/4 me.
I think his read on me is POE?

I wish he would explain why we look town though. And what about damdred reeks scum.
Vivax: Read progression is something that strikes me when I look at his filter (In a good way) He TR kush and then, by POE, scum reads bum. Stuff happens, and then he starts questioning his TR on kush:


I like that. Scum!Vivax could of just keep pushing Bum. There is no point for him to put himself in danger and weaking himself like that. That is like the ideal spot for scum and he went against it. Also he wants to solve the game.

Bummy: Wanted his cell to go 4th, which seemed scummy to me. Why would someone want to to go last with a easier cell is beyond my level of understanding. Never explains it though.
He makes 2 reads (VA and Breshke) and sort of defends Breshke (not heavily though. Kinda of like leaving outs and stuff like that). Idk why he put a link to a VA post from a game in a read on Breshke.
I do not agree with Him about LS being scummy about forcing a confirm townie to RQ. Comes in at a weird time were people are questioning LS alignment too.

Scum for this one: Bum (POE)

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TLDR:
-WoT's are hard to write when you are town.
-Scum are IMO Kura, OWS, darth/LS , Breshke ,Bum
After filterdiving here is a new chart:

On February 23 2016 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote:

Deng ninja'd by my cellmate

On February 24 2016 08:55 Damdred wrote:
I'm here, sorry ff thought I was up first.

Ok so I had a thought Breshke did something super Toney I want thoughts on.

When he came back rit was debating when to use the 50/50. It will be 100% easier in that situation for Breshke to go 1 v 1 and either take the loss and do nothing or just try to take that person down.

However Breshke asks rit not to use it so that he can do work. This is pretty town oriented to me it forces him to do more work looking at multiple people. It forces the rest of the game to take stances on all three rather than a 50-50.
I like this thought of mine.

On February 24 2016 22:04 Rels wrote:

I 100% disagree with both you and Damdred. The only scums that are OK with using 50/50 are scums that are heavily townread, as 1v1 puts them in a position where the other guy is lynched. Scums that are scumread do not want to 50/50 used as they might lose the 1V1 fight. If Breshke is scum, he is MORE likely to be lynched in a 1v1 than in a 1v2.

On February 24 2016 08:35 Breshke wrote:
Damdred are you still here? This is a lot harder than i thought it would be.

Currently after my brief skims through VA and FF's filter I havn't actually found anything scummy from either of them.

I think VA is the scum though purely from the fact that this looks exactly like what I remember from FF and i've only ever played with him as town iirc. His posts seem totally carefree and there is the random posts that do not relate to the game whatsoever. I will look through his recent scumgames though and see if it's any different.

@VA



I know this was at the start of the game but do you remember reasons for this list.

On February 24 2016 08:37 Breshke wrote:
erm FF wanna be a mate and tell me which were your scumgames. I forgot database wouldnt have em.

On February 25 2016 03:40 Rels wrote:

What do you mean with that "RL stuff" thing ? VA posted more frequently than Breshke so I don't understand.

On February 25 2016 03:19 Shapelog wrote:
^I have a weird vibe from darth at #640 . It is totally, like destroying my inner zen.
But then we have the VA man. And like he is not helping balance the thread. Like there was like, 10 or so posts before Mr.Darthy Froffy posted. Then he replies and sits back, and even answers Kush's question (who I though was like, not going to be here today.) before getting around to Darth. Which, like could come from a town who was trying to just not implied the conversation.

On February 25 2016 05:26 darthfoley wrote: Does this game remind you at all of my scum play in Unoriginal? I'd say it's about as different as you could be.

On February 25 2016 10:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't know if shape would bus here though.
I need some time to mull on that.

On February 25 2016 22:53 Rels wrote:

Though the quote is really not contradictory when taken as a whole. Shape why did you cut the part about Star Wars out ? It is actually consistent with DF talking about his meta .The suspicious thing here is him going on so many times about him being unlike his scum play and like his town play in star wars.

On February 25 2016 22:53 Rels wrote:

I thought he was just talking about the difference in him playing or something. I didn't see Star Wars *facepalm*
Alrighttttt, going to get some coffee to wake up because I am obvis not awake.....

On February 26 2016 00:06 Rels wrote:

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I spotted this too when I did CELL A for my reads (Only one I have done.)

On February 25 2016 22:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay kur, Rels, and Shape can I have your reads please?
Sure.
(this was yesterday, btw. I am still up and about my Cell at the time. which is why Damdred and OWS is not colored.)

CELL A
Rit: Nothing making me think he is scum. Throughout his 5 page filter, He shows that he is willing to solve the game. And I like his 50/50 play. Town IMO.

SaltShaker: Saltshaker has really not done much, so Focusing on the stuff he has done. There are some things I do not like.

TR on FF. But then...

He was able to TR FF, which should narrow down 2 people being scum. But yet he claims that he can't read anyone in CELL D. Maybe he thought he read was weak. But that is kinda of a stretch when he says kura voting for FF makes FF town and:


Just Weird. I don't understand how he can be TR/TLing FF but yet say he can't read any of them.

Other than that, he has made some "helpful" posts (mainly Cell order.) Wish more from him though. I would like for him to explain the above. Right now he is Null (And out of POE right now, town)

Kura (The last readbender): Just so Little of Almost Anything.



Wants Cell A and B to go 1st. When asked about B, he replied with Shaperape (Love it by the way), and that he just wants me out. Cool, we have a person who doesn't give a fuck about who gets lynched. And he does not post any other reason but Shaperape. It is almost like he was pushing a ML.

He starts Reading FF as scum. Makes this weird bus strat post (which still makes no sense at all to me.) FF gets confirmed by 50/50. Kura goes on to question why the votes have piled on breskhe.

This seems weird to me. Like he has avoided reading Breskhe (at most he said he was Null)


But he focus heavily on VA afterwards. Feels off if both are Roughly Nulls.

Then in general his posts are below underwhelming...

I feel the Kura is the scum in this one. And if Breshke flips scum, That drives the nail in the coffin. He sounds just to focus on VA, Which would make sense, as he is defending Breshke basically by not talking about him. IF Breshke flips town, I going to look heavily into SL.

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CELL B:
Damdred: His post on order (the one he runs for mayor.) he does not heavily talk about (might of missed it.) our cell. Ok it could just be he forgot or it was our cell and X.
+ Show Spoiler [Tinfoil thought that i disproved to my…] +

Still do not understand anything a bout the term "tilting"

His read progression on Breshke (this cycle) is:







I can understand his read progression on breshke (Null -> Townie stuff -> Pressure vote -> scum/P). I have a bit of a prob. with him voting someone who he thought could be town, but he said it was for pressure to force the breshke out of his hole. Which I believe, Plus I've pressure voted b/4 as town, so Yeah.



<3. Though, do not understand how not getting town read = doing the opposite to get town read. I mean it just feels off. Idk why a townie would leave like that b/c of not getting town read.

So Damdred is solving the game, getting pissed and stuff like that. Things I find wrong are tinfoily stuff. Maybe I am being Paranoid and Damdred is really town. That last post I quoted makes me feel weird though, it does not make sense from a town preservative IMO.

OWS: The underwhelming one of the two.
Scum reads me.

Blah blah blah.


I do not understand how our cell is hard (In his pov) when both Him and damdred scum read me. Shouldn't he want to go 1st and get a point for town if he was certain? I'll admit, it is hard for me because I have 2 people who been towine and i know 1 is scum.

BUT for him at this point, he saw himself(town), Damdred (town), Shapelog(Scum). What is hard about that? nothing. You basically have figured out the cell (I your opinion) and should be pushing so.

Other than that, he has asked questions, gave some answers. Only 1 big post (WoT) and thats really it. Ik he has been busy with work, but I feel he could of done more.

If I had to pick, OBI is scum in the cell. Damdred might be scum, but Most of my grievances with him is tinfoily stuff. Thankfully I have 2 cycles before my cell is up, so I hope they become more clear as it goes on.

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CELL C: I was Rushed, Will Elaborate more after I get home.
LS-LS has not made a post that has really move me. He has not made a big post really, or anything like that. He has not really posted anything like a list of reads and stuff like that.

Thus, My TR has degenerate from LS.

On February 25 2016 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up guys and I see VA and Breshke haven't posted anything -_- Rel's thinks I' m town and Shape being Shape and ritoky tried to explain bum his meta read on VA. Hmm. Also the fact Breshke haven't even tried much to defend himself since the 1v1 is very bad. I think I will vote Breshke for now unless something changes.
##Vote: Breshke

Not a great reason to join the wagon. But W/e.

I kinda have LS in a POE situation here, his other 2 cell mates have been making big posts. V.S. LS who is very lax with his post size. I have a weak TL on him because of his overall relaxed tone (until that flip on FF. lol), but I could see him being scum.
After reading that again, I want to look at it more

RELS- I did not like his opening reads. Mostly because it was a clash of meta and content (I actually think, that in all my town games, I have actually posted a list of reads with the most being Null lol.) One sentence on a read back on his read on me does not make sense.

His unwilligness to townread Damdred is scummy.

I do not understand how not TR damdred is scummy. Might just be confirmation Bias though.

He is questioning people and interrogating. He is trying to solve the game, which makes want to TR him. I do, however, wish he would not use meta so hard but what ever.

Darth- I am wishy on Darth. Some posts makes me want to TR him while others I find scummy. One thing i found weird was how after the Breshke wagon got heavily he started to go after LS and kind of did so during the middle of the cycle. Maybe it is just him trying to solve his cell since it's next.

Scum for this cell is either LS/Darth. I am rushed so I can not really deep read darth's filter to detrime if he is scum trying to live or town trying to figure out things..

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Cell D:

FF-Confirmed town.

VA, Refuses to give anything else. Is kinda of watching the clock too.

On February 25 2016 02:07 VayneAuthority wrote:

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On February 25 2016 02:00 darthfoley wrote:
No, i'm aggressively going after shitty town reads from a guy in MY cell who could easily be scum, but go ahead and keep misrepresenting me

why would I need to misrepresent you, im outta the game before your even up for lynch and my alignment will be known so it doesnt matter what I say about you. Lynching breshke is a formality at this point unless the 50/50 says otherwise so it would be nice if ritoky would come back and do his job

His reads aren't good either:

On February 26 2016 01:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
Aight, at this point:

Use ask the audience on the next cell. I have lost any semblence of a read on this clownfiesta ever since LS' fake rage. It could be any of the 3 honestly. See what people think about Rels' play this game and LS. Darthfoley should be readable on content alone, he has some things that are both strange and town mindset.

Next cell is most likely vivax or bum, if its kush wp those random ass graphs and other weird shit hes done this game really worked, i dont see him being mafia. Vivax will slow down probably if hes scum? gets bored so that might be a clearer cell by then.

next 2 I think are obi and SL. zero reasons just feels. SL slightly less abrasive this game and playing referee, and I always think obi is scum so it doesnt really matter. I guess that one is more POE from that cell.

Next cell: Null
3rd Cell (E): Vivax/bum. With a "watch and see" on Vivax
4th and 5th: Obi and SL off of feels. No content to go off of.

I mean this guy just does not seem to care about the later part of the game (neither is FF but w/e). This is the only lynch we will know for SURE who is who (well i guess sucessful lynchs means you know who scum is.)

Breshke, has posted stuff, but now peaced. Said that VA was scum, but did a 180 the next post by going into his TR FF. Has not come back... Just really a whole host of probs. ([spoiler]

On February 25 2016 00:27 Shapelog wrote:
I do not like this post.

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On February 24 2016 08:35 Breshke wrote:
Damdred are you still here? This is a lot harder than i thought it would be.

Currently after my brief skims through VA and FF's filter I havn't actually found anything scummy from either of them.

I think VA is the scum though purely from the fact that this looks exactly like what I remember from FF and i've only ever played with him as town iirc. His posts seem totally carefree and there is the random posts that do not relate to the game whatsoever. I will look through his recent scumgames though and see if it's any different.

@VA

On February 23 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote:

On February 23 2016 11:56 ritoky wrote:

On February 23 2016 11:38 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky do you have any town reads or scum reads here?

I didn't like sls entrance but idk I wouldn't want your cell up early in either instance. But I don't think for SL it was necessarily scummy just a shitty excuse

i was mildkly okay with OWS's entrance cuz of his confidence level. basically said "i can shit enough town and i can read damdred well enough that my cell is cake".

kush feels town for now

darth doesn't seem like town darth right now, he typed a big post and none of it was about the current game.

SL was underwhelming on his entrance.

VA did the town VA thing, but i kinda told him that meta read last time we played so he could easily be emulating it

you overestimate my memory, barely remember what happened in that game

but dont worry ill solve the game right now

SL
Obi
Rels
breshke
vivax

badabing

I know this was at the start of the game but do you remember reasons for this list.

So he has not reason to scum read anyone, but yet then scums VA. That in itself is a bit weird. But then says he is going to filter VA.

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On February 24 2016 08:37 Breshke wrote:
erm FF wanna be a mate and tell me which were your scumgames. I forgot database wouldnt have em.

180 from Filter diving VA. This was right after he posted saying he was going to filter dive VA.

It is strange that he does not follow up on his scum read and instead go after some who he think is town. If he thinks that FF is town, and if he is town, then he should be focusing hard on VA. But he does isn't

Breshke is Scum! and I am sorry to FF for calling him scum

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Scum for this cell is prob. Breshke. But it literary is a shit fight between VA and Breshke. At least VA is here Vs. Breshke. I am trusting my gut, with my early Tl on VA. Plus, I can not forgive that 180 turn.

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CELL E:
Kush: Something that make me feel really good if breshke filps scum.

On February 24 2016 00:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

kura
ows
rels
breshke
bum

This is from D1, and is his 1st brag list. Idk Scum!Kush would put his team mate Scum!Breshke under the bus (especially when a juciy FF was there.) Also has pushed Breshke hard.
But enough of pre-associate reads (I done that enough this list.)

Overall I think he is town due to his posts. The only one I have Grievance with is:

On February 25 2016 22:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@shape, I'm really happy that I'll never have to read you this game
I guess if I had a gun to my head and I had to pick out the scum from your cell I'd say damdred but that's not based on any study.

I Still do not understand why he does not have to read me this game, especially when he has played in all my games and his cell going b/4 me.
I think his read on me is POE?

On February 25 2016 23:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
2 Damdred is scum because shape and ows look town? Very little confidence in that read though.

I wish he would explain why we look town though. And what about damdred reeks scum.
Vivax: Read progression is something that strikes me when I look at his filter (In a good way) He TR kush and then, by POE, scum reads bum. Stuff happens, and then he starts questioning his TR on kush:

On February 24 2016 05:58 Vivax wrote:

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On February 24 2016 05:56 ritoky wrote:
vivax, if you could pick the ideal spot for your cell to go, which would it be?

Second cause it seems like an easy group and it gives me some more time to solve the game, im already tinfoiling about my kush tr cause of some stuff hes been asking that was bad/pointless/uninformed.

On February 24 2016 05:59 Vivax wrote:
But since bum is so underwhelming and didn't give two shits I picked him out as the mafia already its a pretty weak tinfoil.

I like that. Scum!Vivax could of just keep pushing Bum. There is no point for him to put himself in danger and weaking himself like that. That is like the ideal spot for scum and he went against it. Also he wants to solve the game.

Bummy: Wanted his cell to go 4th, which seemed scummy to me. Why would someone want to to go last with a easier cell is beyond my level of understanding. Never explains it though.
He makes 2 reads (VA and Breshke) and sort of defends Breshke (not heavily though. Kinda of like leaving outs and stuff like that). Idk why he put a link to a VA post from a game in a read on Breshke.
I do not agree with Him about LS being scummy about forcing a confirm townie to RQ. Comes in at a weird time were people are questioning LS alignment too.

Scum for this one: Bum (POE)

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TLDR:
-WoT's are hard to write when you are town.
-Scum are IMO Kura, OWS, darth/LS , Breshke ,Bum
After filterdiving here is a new chart: