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On October 24 2015 05:32 marvellosity wrote:
rayn never had more than 3 votes
at least one of which was BH's RNG
He was still set to be lynched. Just before the Slam wagon started in full force.
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On October 24 2015 05:35 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why? if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam. i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression. Hm... I guess that's not impossible. I think it was a bit odd how BH unvoted rayn just when rayn became the leading wagon. There are still reasons to townread BH though.
like there aren't to townread me?
lmao
i love your "i don't know what marv did in previous games" when BH explained to you what i did, and told you the game, and you could have gone and looked
but no, you went to your VS game and posted a load of shit noone gave a fuck about it
top play xata
top
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i retract my townread on xata out of spite at how terrible he's being
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On October 24 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
i retract my townread on xata out of spite at how terrible he's being
can i have his spot bbgurl? i want free candy.
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On October 24 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:35 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why? if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam. i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression. Hm... I guess that's not impossible. I think it was a bit odd how BH unvoted rayn just when rayn became the leading wagon. There are still reasons to townread BH though. like there aren't to townread me? lmao i love your "i don't know what marv did in previous games" when BH explained to you what i did, and told you the game, and you could have gone and looked but no, you went to your VS game and posted a load of shit noone gave a fuck about it top play xata top fucking play
What now? I did tentatively agree with BH's meta case, since it seems like a quite plausible reason to give you a townread.
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On October 24 2015 05:37 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
i retract my townread on xata out of spite at how terrible he's being can i have his spot bbgurl? i want free candy.
you can have free candy
i'm not entirely sure how to townread you
like i do kinda think you're town, but... i dunno :D i don't think you're as town as the game i was mafia in and i commented on it? if i could see that... or maybe i'm just not scum so it's not obvious and you do look as town. but i don't think so. could have stopped typing long ago tbh.
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Are you still angry about my post about rayn/marv/Chromatically scumteam? That was ages ago and not my current thought at all.
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On October 24 2015 05:38 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:On October 24 2015 05:35 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why? if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam. i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression. Hm... I guess that's not impossible. I think it was a bit odd how BH unvoted rayn just when rayn became the leading wagon. There are still reasons to townread BH though. like there aren't to townread me? lmao i love your "i don't know what marv did in previous games" when BH explained to you what i did, and told you the game, and you could have gone and looked but no, you went to your VS game and posted a load of shit noone gave a fuck about it top play xata top fucking play What now? I did tentatively agree with BH's meta case, since it seems like a quite plausible reason to give you a townread.
he talked about it in his first spate of posting at the start of d1.
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On October 24 2015 03:43 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 03:31 Blazinghand wrote:On October 23 2015 21:46 Xatalos wrote:
Really marv? I think Slam has said a lot more interesting stuff already than he ever did last game (as scum). There he just basically hanged around, trolling, but I thought he was town because he was so "natural" in the thread.
This game... Mostly I was enlightened by him liking ritoky for his "town BH makes reads based on his RNG push DING DING" post (which really makes me feel better about ritoky too, since I forgot that post and wondered a bit about his confidence in BH being town... Now I understand). Also I liked how he brought up the weird progression from rayn regarding GB... Which basically went like certain town -> die scum, based on.. What? Missing posts from GB earlier? Then why that hard defense of him in the first place, without even reading his posts? And now the confident scumread because that's where the thread was flowing?
What I'm trying to say is, reading Slam's posts made me feel better about Slam and ritoky, and worse about rayn. Not really sure how you came to your conclusions marv...?
On the other hand, GB has felt a bit better lately. The Vivax read is a bit... But like marv said, it feels like a really weird target to pick as scum. And I liked his meta thing about me. And he's unlikely scum with rayn (no reason for scum rayn to suddenly go on the offensive this late in the day otherwise after hard defending him before). So I See you going to the mat for slam here. How does Slam convince you rayn is scum? I'm glad to see someone on board with the "GB being stubborn could be a town-tell" boat, but how does this have to do with an associative tell with rayn? Rayn is totally willing to attack teammates when appropriate as scum, and in a game with no investigative roles I'd be a lot more confident about rayn lasting through lylo as scum than I would GB. Can you explain in a bit more detail why rayn as scum wouldn't change his mind on GB as scum, if GB's push starts to falter? On October 23 2015 21:59 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, and Chromatically... Not sure yet. He's kept being pretty reasonable / constructive all game, but I don't really think there's been much (if anything?) I've agreed with him on... And that case against me is just, pretty much describing my town meta features as scummy points. The stuff he's saying about me is null at worst. And then I'm confidently scum? I've received a couple of cases like that (from scum) before. Most notably the case that called me a "drama queen" or something (LOL). That was a funny case. Anyways, it feels kind of like those cases, nitpicking null/towny things and painting them in the worst possible light. It doesn't even feel like an actual case, more like an effort to try and find *somethjng* (anything) bad about me... And failing, but calling me scum regardless. This post is bad and you should feel bad. On October 23 2015 22:34 Xatalos wrote:
Let's see... My current thoughts are... (not in any particular order)
Town
Vivax
Blazinghand
ritoky
Alakaslam
Nullish
GlowingBear
gumshoe
Hopeless1der
Onegu
yamato77
marvellosity
Scummy
Chromatically
raynpelikoneet
That's where I'm at... I think there's at least 1-2 scum between rayn/Chrom and then 1-2 in the null section. Why do you have marv as scum? As I noted earlier, Marv is like supremely demotivated as scum now (to the point of almost throwing games, never trying, conceding with 3 or 2 scum alive, etc). It's super obvious to me that marv is town, since he's actually trying to play the game rather than be a little whiny baby about it. Just look at his game history. It wasn't a decisive part really, but Slam brought up the whole issue of rayn's read on GB and how it shifted based on thread sentiment rather than anything changing about GB. He was first oddly certain about GB being town, then suddenly oddly certain about him being scum (and this happened because of pressure gathering on GB, not because he said new stuff). I don't really see why rayn should have dropped the GB read as scum since GB is still a lynch candidate. Do you townread Chromatically and why? I didn't have marv as scum back when I made that post. Currently I'm leaning towards the possibility. Mostly because of his odd hard defense of rayn that was based on something that didn't even happen. It makes the most sense in the event of a rayn/marv team, but we'll see if that's the case.
I do not TR chromatically. As I've chronicled, he's said a lot of things that don't make sense. I think along with Slam I'd find him and Onegu to be on my lynch list, though I strongly prefer 1Gu to Chrom based on 1gu's entry to the thread a page or so back.
On October 24 2015 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 03:41 Blazinghand wrote:... On October 23 2015 23:10 Chromatically wrote:So I assume no one agrees with me on Xatalos then? On October 23 2015 21:59 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, and Chromatically... Not sure yet. He's kept being pretty reasonable / constructive all game, but I don't really think there's been much (if anything?) I've agreed with him on... And that case against me is just, pretty much describing my town meta features as scummy points. The stuff he's saying about me is null at worst. And then I'm confidently scum? I've received a couple of cases like that (from scum) before. Most notably the case that called me a "drama queen" or something (LOL). That was a funny case. Anyways, it feels kind of like those cases, nitpicking null/towny things and painting them in the worst possible light. It doesn't even feel like an actual case, more like an effort to try and find *somethjng* (anything) bad about me... And failing, but calling me scum regardless. Here are the basic points I made: Xatalos was active without posting anything particularly in the beginning of the game (mafia do this because they want to appear active but have trouble posting content), waffling on votes (mafia do this because they want to keep their options open and not ignore their partners), throwing suspicion on rayn initially (mafia do this to make people look worse than they are), weird read on BH (mafia throw out townreads without thinking about why). The last two points are meh, but the first two I think are pretty clearly scum traits and certainly not "null at worst" from any perspective. The filter length defense is the only good one I've heard, but filter length is not everything. If people really don't want to lynch Xatalos, I'll obviously consolidate onto someone else. But I do think I made a strong case and I feel good about it. Uh, isn't that consistent with Xat buying into RNG, townreading me, and pushing the RNG target? The actions you've described are like, the actions of someone who has joined the glory of RNG so unless you're saying "buying into RNG is scummy" I dont' think you've got a case here buddy ... Are you trying to say that Xatalos' read on rayn is based on him following RNG?
Oh, was it not?
On October 24 2015 04:25 Chromatically wrote:
BH didn't you have a townread on me? When did you get this hard-on for lynching me?
When you started being awful
On October 24 2015 04:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 04:27 Blazinghand wrote:On October 23 2015 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 19:28 marvellosity wrote:
the funny thing is, one thing that makes me unsure about GB being mafia - both rayn and I stated pretty early that Vivax was town and I think it was kinda obvious we were serious about it. So I guess GB-mafia in that instance somehow decides to go against both me and rayn and push a very weak meta case? it's practically suicidal. maybe he's just town and believes it... dno right now and btw this is what GB does as scum. He basically does something that is "too scummy to be scum" then, when called out for it he says "mafia would never do that so i am not mafia". Hell he isn't even really defending his read (see Trfel/Damdred last game), he just says "i would not pick Vivax as my target as mafia because people are townreading him". eh, I guess I see what you're getting at here but compared to the significantly worse issues on hand (low contribution players) is GB the ideal lynch today? If this is really the case, the truth will out in the next day anyways On October 23 2015 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
i'll probably choose between GB/Slam if rayn's meta point on Chrome holds up What's the case on Slam? Any detail on this would be good, I generally have difficulty wrapping my head around Slam. On October 23 2015 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
i'll probably choose between GB/Slam if rayn's meta point on Chrome holds up Read the last scumgame in database, mainly Koshi's case on him D1. Also what Koshi says there holds up on GoT game aswell. Thanks for this info, but next time, a link would be so much nicer! On October 24 2015 00:11 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately I think a rayn/marv scumteam makes sense.
Because I have difficulties seeing why town marv would defend rayn based on something that never actually happened, in the first moments of the game, and ignoring everything rayn said afterwards.... Even though rayn already has like 7 pages of filter. Marv is NOT SCUM. MARV IS NOT SCUm MARV IS NOT SCUM Look, last game (student XV) Marv was scum and he was so disappointed to roll sucm again he like, conceded during NIGHT 1. MARV IS PLAYING THE GAME, THEREFORE HE IS NOT SCUM. IF Marv was scum, he would basicallyc ontinue to be a super whiny baby and not play. Marv was SUCH A WHINY BABY. UGH. He basically ruined a whole newbie game (a newbie game!) because of what a whiny baby he was about rolling scum. Do you really think he somehow shaped up and stopped being a whiny baby? No, Marv is gonna be a whiny baby until he plays a game or two as town or takes a break. This is true. I think the high amount of veteran players in this game might help in that regard, but I can understand your point....
Trust me, he'd be real mad. he's town.
On October 24 2015 04:32 marvellosity wrote:
BH - re: Slam
there was the post I quoted of his earlier, the post where he originally has a go at rayn about his vote on him. The post where he says he'll never get lynched before lylo and rayn is suspicious for going after LHF.
Well the thing is, Slam as town has always somewhat reconciled himself to being lynched. In fact, he's often asked to be lynched so he doesn't burden his team later on.
This meta may well have changed, he's become more self-confident or whatever. But I think the switch to "you are voting me therefore you are suspicious, and i am unlynchable" is too much.
After this post he kinda periodically quotes rayn and calls his posts suspicious, based on not very much.
Then when I also become suspicious of Slam, he doesn't really think why I might be suspicious of him, he just lumps me as mafia along with rayn. It's the true definition of omgus because he doesn't actually have any other reason to be suspicious of me other than the fact I am voting for him.
He makes posts like "the way marv and rayn are arrogant this game is telling" without explaining how it's telling.
I'm seeing no passion, no fire, no sparks of... anything in his play.
Is it a slam dunk case? No, it isn't. But i have reasons to townread a lot of other people so my pool is kinda smallish. Can't see why he should be town.
Hmm, yeah, I'm on board. I'd much rather lynch Onegu though.
Heh, Slam dunk. Heh.
On October 24 2015 04:33 marvellosity wrote:
lol
"slam" dunk
i'm a genius
heh.
On October 24 2015 04:49 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 04:37 Blazinghand wrote:On October 24 2015 00:16 gumshoe wrote:
Gb- I rather not lynch him, his tunnel onto Vivax is probs wrong, but then again I havent really dug into vivax, (but I dont like how he turned around onto Gb / : the guy whose tunneling you tends to be a really easy mark for maf, they can just focus them till lynch and not contribute elsewise, which is pretty much were vivax is at, also I dont like detailed excuses*he done it twice now#),. Overall I think hes just a derpie townie who got caught up in a tunnel with a player whose more null than scummy and now feels compelled to stand his ground. Def been there.
This seems spot on On October 24 2015 00:16 gumshoe wrote:
Xata- I dont feel hes done little enough good or plenty enough wrong to warrant a lynch today. I could elaborate but meh.
I still feel pretty good about chrom and Ritoky(less so about ritoky, but in his defense rayn is kind of a black hole that absorbs all your attention at times) so atm I wouldn't vote them today.
Until someone can magically explain why Onegu and Hopeless deserve the benefit of the doubt, my vote will probally fall on them. etween Xat, Chrom, ritoky, Onegu, and hopeless1 I see no serious statements differentiating them, other than that you want to lynch onegu and Hopeless1 from the other three without any explanation? What's the deal broseph??? You must have REASONS for this. You say "unless someone can magically explain..." but your'e the one with magical explanations here. Or magical lack of explanations. Man up and post some. On October 24 2015 00:16 gumshoe wrote:
People I need to read more into -Bh(has seemed rather useless as of late) Slam, been letting him off cause Slam, but thats not a good reason to neglect his filter T_T small as it may be. No input on the slam case!!?? Pul it together brometheius On October 24 2015 00:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, fuck this shit then, lynch me.
After I flip, go against Marv because I can't possibly see how can't he see me as town + not willing to lynch Onegu when Onegu has done NOTHING but sheeping me onto the same read he scum reads me for.
I'm voting Marv but I know all you pussies won't because he is Marv. And it seems again that he isn't so good as you say. Yeah, see my meta read on MArv. From the XV scum QT (this game is over so the QT is ok to link) http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/zRTyp8RMU5dNs: "i was never going to try this game very much if i rolled mafia anyway  " "it kinda takes me time to recharge my scum batteries, and i've only played 48h of town since i tried pretty hard as mafia last. batteries low. i will play though. just poorly." "*giggles* we're gonna lose so hilariously hard, it'll be great." Then, night 1: "##concede nothing left for me here" and he had a crappy like 2 page filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494452-student-mafia-xv?user=marvellosity&view=allthe difference is palpable. In any case, I'm beating a dead horse here so I'll leave it aloen but anyone voting marv is not paying attention to the obvious evidence here. xat was a scum read of mine early on, but his sheer level of activity detterd me from pursuing so didnt waste mah time there. Onegu and hopeless had >2 page filters and most of thier commentary was fairly banal jokey and worthless. Felt this went without saying. Chrom and ritoky were entangled together, I found ritoky townie from his initital pounce on to me (though my opinion has changed since) chrom also just came off over time as really active and sincere so I revoked mah earlier scum read on him. I generally tend to not go too much into mah town reads cause they dont interest me, and there wasnt much to say on onegu and hopeless, the mix made for a shallow one. As for Slam, gonna be honest, me finding him townie is more an asociation thing. Basically people I dont like are calling him out for very little reason. That and his death match with Rayn feels dumb and townie.
Can you go in depth about the association? Also, if you actually READ Onegu's filter you'll find there's nothing of value there, 2 pages o no.
On October 24 2015 05:35 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why? if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam. i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression. Hm... I guess that's not impossible. I think it was a bit odd how BH unvoted rayn just when rayn became the leading wagon. There are still reasons to townread BH though.
rayn has been the leading wagon all game, so literally any time I unvote him it would be when he was the leading wagon. Is it possible that maybe... maybe I jsut think he's not the best lynch today? Like do you really think he's a better lynch than 1gu? Really?
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On October 24 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
where is Slam anyway?
scumlandering
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On October 24 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:38 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:On October 24 2015 05:35 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why? if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam. i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression. Hm... I guess that's not impossible. I think it was a bit odd how BH unvoted rayn just when rayn became the leading wagon. There are still reasons to townread BH though. like there aren't to townread me? lmao i love your "i don't know what marv did in previous games" when BH explained to you what i did, and told you the game, and you could have gone and looked but no, you went to your VS game and posted a load of shit noone gave a fuck about it top play xata top fucking play What now? I did tentatively agree with BH's meta case, since it seems like a quite plausible reason to give you a townread. he talked about it in his first spate of posting at the start of d1.
Yes, but I forgot that post as we got into the argument between me/rayn/Slam. Or before that really, while I was doing exams and thinking about other stuff. I never wanted to lynch you anyway. It just disturbed me how you defended rayn for non-existent/vague reasons, ran out of arguments and told me to just sheep you quietly, and had many of your reads opposite of me.
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On October 24 2015 05:05 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok, finished up with the day post in Newbie mafia, so this game has my full attention for the next hour. I'm almost caught up, just pushing through the 50s now. right now I've got my eyes set on Chrom and Gumshoe, though I'll be paying attention to the Slam case as I catch up. Let me know if you have any requests for reads now, since we're getting close to deadline and I don't have much time Whatever happened with rayn? You were still talking about the RNG on him a while ago and him being otherwise scummy, but now he's not an option anymore?
If he's town he'll probably be shot (After marv) anyways. I'm not worried. RNG is just a tool used to generate discussion, though I'll never admit it. And it worked fine for what it was. Let's focus on actually catching scum.
On October 24 2015 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:well i am not scum BH so there is that. That makes your rng being right 0% of the time, 100% of the time.
HISTORICALLY IT HAS WORKED AT LEAST ONCE OK
On October 24 2015 05:23 Xatalos wrote:
Oh, there's Onegu too I guess.
are you game for shenannies?
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On October 24 2015 05:42 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On October 24 2015 05:38 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:On October 24 2015 05:35 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why? if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam. i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression. Hm... I guess that's not impossible. I think it was a bit odd how BH unvoted rayn just when rayn became the leading wagon. There are still reasons to townread BH though. like there aren't to townread me? lmao i love your "i don't know what marv did in previous games" when BH explained to you what i did, and told you the game, and you could have gone and looked but no, you went to your VS game and posted a load of shit noone gave a fuck about it top play xata top fucking play What now? I did tentatively agree with BH's meta case, since it seems like a quite plausible reason to give you a townread. he talked about it in his first spate of posting at the start of d1. Yes, but I forgot that post as we got into the argument between me/rayn/Slam. Or before that really, while I was doing exams and thinking about other stuff. I never wanted to lynch you anyway. It just disturbed me how you defended rayn for non-existent/vague reasons, ran out of arguments and told me to just sheep you quietly, and had many of your reads opposite of me.
and why exactly is this not a scumtell anymore`?
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BH's RNG did work once
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On October 24 2015 05:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why? if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam. i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression. i'm not quite sure what you're saying but i think i like it it looks non-routine
Come on, give me a break. I'm trying to win the damned game. You can't say "RNG Meta can't prove BH town cause he'd imitate it as scum" then say "well, he's not doing the exact same thing so he's scum" (and let's be clear: at least once or twice I have backed off my RNG target and voted someone else; this is nothing new). So not only are you inconsistent, you're inconsitent based on a WRONG premise. Yes, I often push my RNG target into the ground, but not always! I can be reasonable, you know!
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On October 24 2015 05:42 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:well i am not scum BH so there is that. That makes your rng being right 0% of the time, 100% of the time. HISTORICALLY IT HAS WORKED AT LEAST ONCE OK
I am actually curious; where?
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BH you totally missed the entire point of that post.
ritoky is attacking xatalos, not you.
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wait was it the game where i was scum with Risen?
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On October 24 2015 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:42 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On October 24 2015 05:38 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:On October 24 2015 05:35 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why? if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam. i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression. Hm... I guess that's not impossible. I think it was a bit odd how BH unvoted rayn just when rayn became the leading wagon. There are still reasons to townread BH though. like there aren't to townread me? lmao i love your "i don't know what marv did in previous games" when BH explained to you what i did, and told you the game, and you could have gone and looked but no, you went to your VS game and posted a load of shit noone gave a fuck about it top play xata top fucking play What now? I did tentatively agree with BH's meta case, since it seems like a quite plausible reason to give you a townread. he talked about it in his first spate of posting at the start of d1. Yes, but I forgot that post as we got into the argument between me/rayn/Slam. Or before that really, while I was doing exams and thinking about other stuff. I never wanted to lynch you anyway. It just disturbed me how you defended rayn for non-existent/vague reasons, ran out of arguments and told me to just sheep you quietly, and had many of your reads opposite of me. and why exactly is this not a scumtell anymore`?
I'm willing to let it slide for the time being if his current scum meta is to not play and concede as soon as possible.
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