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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 23 2015 20:27 GMT
#1301
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).

marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 23 2015 20:27 GMT
#1302
On October 24 2015 02:53 yamato77 wrote:
hm

slam not a terrible lynch given his insistence on being "unreadable"

I think as town he becomes indignant and actually mad if people try to lynch him, this seems more like a mafia tactic.

I don't necessarily disagree that GB looks better but I'm rather hesitant to sleep on the idea of lynching him entirely.

Rayn is just not mafia here I don't think. Unless he is mafia with marv and they both successfully pocketed me. I doubt this though, because literally everyone thinks I am town now so lol.

I don't really want to lynch Onegu but I admittedly haven't read his probably short filter either.


so who's top of the list for you if, say, we don't lynch slam?

On October 24 2015 02:55 Onegu wrote:
So after catching up.

Marv is more active but still useless... Like really the best a town marv has is pushing a slam lynch. I guess he pushes GB. Hrmmm guess that is alot more than his last few games.

I think gumshoe is falling into the onegu rule.

Rayn is like 90% of his town meta.

Yamato did some stuff looked townie.

GB rolled my RnG.

Havent seen BH again since the start. IIRC he had some reads other than his RnG lynch. Townish I think.

Hopeless said he was going to lynch me for being useless I told him good luck, he didnt bite at the bait. Not looking good. IE rels in rayns game.

I have forever given up on attempting to read slam. Would lynch or wouldnt lynch. Not really top priority.

Xata many reads, big filter. he is like 99% town. Rayn my friend you should get off of this one.

UMMM... Who else.... Oh chrome completely forgettable. Scum read.

Vivax will trust yamato's read on him for now.

Ummm.....

No more Mabs or Town! since my rant post it must have worked.

Damn I am good at this game.

You all call me useless but then you all know my reads are normally right on. Unless they are completely wrong. It is never a mix of right and wrong. And I am more right than wrong.



do you actually have a scumread or case? maybe we should lynch onegu jsut for this truly awful list post, who's in? Also for that RNG thing. Wow actually yes







I'm now caught up to my first post in the "catching up to posts" series. Replies inc
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 23 2015 20:28 GMT
#1303
On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).

marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.


do you think BH is scum?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 23 2015 20:28 GMT
#1304
On October 24 2015 05:26 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 05:25 gumshoe wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:20 ritoky wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:12 gumshoe wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you too gumshoe. amek up your mind and stop talking about irrelevant things.


I think Yamato Ritoky plus maybe onegu/hopeless are scum.

and I think the lynch onto you and slam is retarded and it seems like a super dumb lynch ethier way.

thats is the format in which my mind is made up.



low post count = scum.

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rip jon stewart, i already miss you so much



Def don't mean town too. This meta argument against slam is pretty sils. You also match my fantasy mafia team so thats mostly why I wanna see you die ) :


i am glad i live in your fantasies. only 1 other person has told me that before and i married her and knocked her up.

awwww <3
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 23 2015 20:28 GMT
#1305
On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).

marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.


do you think BH is scum?


Not really, why?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 20:29 GMT
#1306
On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).

marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.

it makes a lot of sense for Slam to be mafia with this vote progression

it was like pulling teeth getting votes on him after the first couple of votes, and then when it seemed likely the votes piled on

seems rather normal
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 23 2015 20:30 GMT
#1307
Day 1 Vote Count


Alakaslam (9): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Chromatically, Vivax, Blazinghand, gumshoe, ritoky
raynpelikoneet (4): Blazinghand, Xatalos, Vivax, Hopeless1der, Xatalos, Alakaslam, GlowingBear, Onegu
Vivax (0): gumshoe, GlowingBear, Onegu
ritoky (0): Chromatically, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, gumshoe
GlowingBear (0): marvellosity, yamato77, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, Vivax
Chromatically (0): Xatalos, Vivax
Onegu (0): Onegu, gumshoe
Hopeless1der (0): gumshoe
marvellosity (0): GlowingBear
Xatalos (0): Chromatically

Looks like it's time to sack Alakaslam for being a traitor!
Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).

The quality control list is here.
The automated list counter is here.
Only votes on this list will be counted.

Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill.
[/QUOTE]
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 23 2015 20:30 GMT
#1308
On October 24 2015 05:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 02:53 yamato77 wrote:
hm

slam not a terrible lynch given his insistence on being "unreadable"

I think as town he becomes indignant and actually mad if people try to lynch him, this seems more like a mafia tactic.

I don't necessarily disagree that GB looks better but I'm rather hesitant to sleep on the idea of lynching him entirely.

Rayn is just not mafia here I don't think. Unless he is mafia with marv and they both successfully pocketed me. I doubt this though, because literally everyone thinks I am town now so lol.

I don't really want to lynch Onegu but I admittedly haven't read his probably short filter either.


so who's top of the list for you if, say, we don't lynch slam?

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 02:55 Onegu wrote:
So after catching up.

Marv is more active but still useless... Like really the best a town marv has is pushing a slam lynch. I guess he pushes GB. Hrmmm guess that is alot more than his last few games.

I think gumshoe is falling into the onegu rule.

Rayn is like 90% of his town meta.

Yamato did some stuff looked townie.

GB rolled my RnG.

Havent seen BH again since the start. IIRC he had some reads other than his RnG lynch. Townish I think.

Hopeless said he was going to lynch me for being useless I told him good luck, he didnt bite at the bait. Not looking good. IE rels in rayns game.

I have forever given up on attempting to read slam. Would lynch or wouldnt lynch. Not really top priority.

Xata many reads, big filter. he is like 99% town. Rayn my friend you should get off of this one.

UMMM... Who else.... Oh chrome completely forgettable. Scum read.

Vivax will trust yamato's read on him for now.

Ummm.....

No more Mabs or Town! since my rant post it must have worked.

Damn I am good at this game.

You all call me useless but then you all know my reads are normally right on. Unless they are completely wrong. It is never a mix of right and wrong. And I am more right than wrong.



do you actually have a scumread or case? maybe we should lynch onegu jsut for this truly awful list post, who's in? Also for that RNG thing. Wow actually yes







I'm now caught up to my first post in the "catching up to posts" series. Replies inc


id get behind an onegu lynch to spare slam and rayn, also in these posts he calls hopeless and ritoky scum for super vauge reasons. Found this kinda townie when I saw it? more to do with my fantasy mafia team than anything else but the reads were so weak they might not actually count against it.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 20:30 GMT
#1309
anyway, xata, in case i'm wrong i'm sure you'll get plenty more takers for your case when you're inevitably alive d2 despite being right on the scumleader, rayn
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 23 2015 20:31 GMT
#1310
On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).

marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.


do you think BH is scum?


Not really, why?


if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam.

i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 20:31 GMT
#1311
On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).

marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.


do you think BH is scum?


Not really, why?


if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam.

i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression.

i'm not quite sure what you're saying but i think i like it

it looks non-routine
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 23 2015 20:32 GMT
#1312
Let me explain my thought.... As the day progressed, there were a ton of votes distributed around. A lot of players were kind of switching back and forth and around to other suspects. This all changed when rayn became the leading wagon. Suddenly new votes started piling on Slam until rayn was "safe", and basically everyone in my PoE list went to Slam according to this rayn-saving flow. That's one of the major reasons why I think the lynch is scum rayn and town Slam.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 23 2015 20:32 GMT
#1313
On October 24 2015 03:00 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 02:59 gumshoe wrote:
On October 24 2015 02:55 Onegu wrote:
So after catching up.

Marv is more active but still useless... Like really the best a town marv has is pushing a slam lynch. I guess he pushes GB. Hrmmm guess that is alot more than his last few games.

I think gumshoe is falling into the onegu rule.

Rayn is like 90% of his town meta.

Yamato did some stuff looked townie.

GB rolled my RnG.

Havent seen BH again since the start. IIRC he had some reads other than his RnG lynch. Townish I think.

Hopeless said he was going to lynch me for being useless I told him good luck, he didnt bite at the bait. Not looking good. IE rels in rayns game.

I have forever given up on attempting to read slam. Would lynch or wouldnt lynch. Not really top priority.

Xata many reads, big filter. he is like 99% town. Rayn my friend you should get off of this one.

UMMM... Who else.... Oh chrome completely forgettable. Scum read.

Vivax will trust yamato's read on him for now.

Ummm.....

No more Mabs or Town! since my rant post it must have worked.

Damn I am good at this game.

You all call me useless but then you all know my reads are normally right on. Unless they are completely wrong. It is never a mix of right and wrong. And I am more right than wrong.



Could you elaborate on chrom besides forgettable? It looks as if hes basically your lynch proposal / :



Nope. Me forgetting you are in the game means you must be scum.


This is really bad

On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate?


how was his return okay, he just called a bunch of people null and town with no cases, ideas, or reasoning, and then said he rnged sheeping GB. How was this even a tiny bit okay????

On October 24 2015 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate?


Sorry, why is he okay?

BTW I'm pretty sure Vivax is mafia now. He comes back, jokes about stuff, says some random stuff about killing me, but actually talks about nothing else in the game. His read on yamato has vanished, too.

I can't understand what you guys find townie in him.


Lack of content there is disturbing possibly, but what are your thoughts on Onegu? his entrance was super distubring

On October 24 2015 03:08 marvellosity wrote:
Meta point on Chromatically:

In Detention (town) he didn't give a single townread on day 1
In Order Mafia (mafia) he did
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 07:44 Chromatically wrote:
I think round is town btw. I like how he's clearly not editing how he posts to seem more "townie" (something scum are focused on). I also like that he didn't even know who was pushing on him when I asked him about it. Scum would be more likely to notice that they're under pressure and be worried about it, because their goal is to not get lynched.

In this game he has given town reads

I'm looking at this because it was a couple of his posts on townreads that made me raise my eyebrows


EEENTERESTING. I am not a chromatically fan, as you know. Are there others interested in this or is he not on deck for potential shenannies today?

On October 24 2015 03:09 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 02:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Yam could just be having a slow start. It's still early int he US today, so maybe he'll pick up. All this talk about lynching yam is a distraction from the real scum, rayn

BH knows this, lol

wtf is with that question, BH?

Do you really not understand how I play?


I always forget. We play more CS or Dota than we do Mafia together. Don't worry, you're not getting lynched today kiddo

On October 24 2015 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
tbh after reading Chrome's last mafia game and his last towngame i think he could still easily be mafia

not sure i want to pursue it today though


I'm game for shenannies
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 20:32 GMT
#1314
rayn never had more than 3 votes

at least one of which was BH's RNG
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 23 2015 20:33 GMT
#1315
On October 24 2015 05:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).

marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.


do you think BH is scum?


Not really, why?


if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam.

i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression.

i'm not quite sure what you're saying but i think i like it

it looks non-routine

It actually fits into why i called him mafia earlier if you read closely.
"Whatever BH does goes into me calling a townie mafia" (assuming BH is town - which i am quite sure of here).
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 23 2015 20:33 GMT
#1316
as town BH pushes hard for his RNG target and doesn't stop historically. if xata thinks rayn is scum, shouldn't BH pulling off the gas be alarming to him? or at least more alarming than marv who TR rayn all game.

is the simplified version
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 20:34 GMT
#1317
On October 24 2015 05:33 ritoky wrote:
as town BH pushes hard for his RNG target and doesn't stop historically. if xata thinks rayn is scum, shouldn't BH pulling off the gas be alarming to him? or at least more alarming than marv who TR rayn all game.

is the simplified version

yeah that makes sense
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 20:34 GMT
#1318
re: Chrome - not today BH
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 20:35 GMT
#1319
although i do feel he is mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 23 2015 20:35 GMT
#1320
On October 24 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).

marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.


do you think BH is scum?


Not really, why?


if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam.

i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression.


Hm... I guess that's not impossible. I think it was a bit odd how BH unvoted rayn just when rayn became the leading wagon. There are still reasons to townread BH though.
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