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TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy

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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 21:05 GMT
#217
/in
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 21:50 GMT
#227
On March 19 2015 06:18 rsoultin wrote:
Eden! <3

I may survive past night one this game!

you better and I better!!!
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:14 GMT
#270
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

Oh thank god you're town again
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:16 GMT
#274
Is Guardians of the Galaxy good? I'm trying to decide if I should learn the flavor and find out if Yondu is a good thing to be
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:25 GMT
#304
On March 19 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

Oh thank god you're town again


so fast :/

Yeah and HF is already catching mafia so we can hang out like we didn't get to last game.

Sup?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:25 GMT
#305
On March 19 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
>>

hf wasting no time

are you a slam whisperer? i thought i had him pegged but i was right and wrong at the same time so back to being not so sure after just a page or two of posting lol

In case there's any doubt, rsoultin is town. Mindmeld + godreads.

You're welcome town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:26 GMT
#306
On March 19 2015 08:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Meta says Slam is probably scum for being so serious from the start.

I haven't even read anything since the first rso post I quoted and I already agree with this
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:26 GMT
#308
I quad posted, confirmed town. 2 down
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:28 GMT
#316
On March 19 2015 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
um..... that's a bit too sure eden

About rsoultin? No it isn't.

About anybody else? Sure
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:29 GMT
#318
On March 19 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

Oh thank god you're town again


so fast :/

Yeah and HF is already catching mafia so we can hang out like we didn't get to last game.

Sup?


Sup.

+ Show Spoiler +
You know that I don't have an insta-read on you right? lol You tried to pocket me when you were scum ;o; meanie

+ Show Spoiler +
Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:29 GMT
#319
On March 19 2015 08:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
um..... that's a bit too sure eden

About rsoultin? No it isn't.

About anybody else? Sure


you can't seriously say "mind meld" when someone points out the most obvious observation in the game

That's icing on the cake

The cake is the tone read
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:31 GMT
#323
On March 19 2015 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:29 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

Oh thank god you're town again


so fast :/

Yeah and HF is already catching mafia so we can hang out like we didn't get to last game.

Sup?


Sup.

+ Show Spoiler +
You know that I don't have an insta-read on you right? lol You tried to pocket me when you were scum ;o; meanie

+ Show Spoiler +
Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award


Sometimes it hink of your post game comment about robik being a pigeon crapping on someone in a old shirt and 'm a dump truck full of trex shit 90 miles an hour on a tux and I laugh....

My finest hour in TL mafia comedy

Possibly the only approaching-funny thing I've ever said on-site
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:32 GMT
#324
On March 19 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:29 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

Oh thank god you're town again


so fast :/

Yeah and HF is already catching mafia so we can hang out like we didn't get to last game.

Sup?


Sup.

+ Show Spoiler +
You know that I don't have an insta-read on you right? lol You tried to pocket me when you were scum ;o; meanie

+ Show Spoiler +
Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award


+ Show Spoiler +
You scumread him lol >> heyheyhey so no one has posted about your entrance yet. you disappoint?

+ Show Spoiler +
All I'm sayin is, 100% of the time I pocket you I get wrecked d1. Bad play, never getting repeated
And nah, I been in the limelight too much last game, it's no fun even being a flagrant attention whore lmao
People will eventually see your towniness I'm sure
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:34 GMT
#331
On March 19 2015 08:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Meta says Slam is probably scum for being so serious from the start.

Meta is personality traits that someone cannot fix.

So you agree with me that rsoultin is town and that I am town too
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:35 GMT
#333
On March 19 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
oh god sicklucker is in this game

l m a o
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:35 GMT
#335
On March 19 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:29 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

Oh thank god you're town again


so fast :/

Yeah and HF is already catching mafia so we can hang out like we didn't get to last game.

Sup?


Sup.

+ Show Spoiler +
You know that I don't have an insta-read on you right? lol You tried to pocket me when you were scum ;o; meanie

+ Show Spoiler +
Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award


+ Show Spoiler +
You scumread him lol >> heyheyhey so no one has posted about your entrance yet. you disappoint?

+ Show Spoiler +
All I'm sayin is, 100% of the time I pocket you I get wrecked d1. Bad play, never getting repeated
And nah, I been in the limelight too much last game, it's no fun even being a flagrant attention whore lmao
People will eventually see your towniness I'm sure


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not concerned. I only ever get mislynched in LYLO xP (nor have i ever seriously needed anyone's help except in that game ><)

+ Show Spoiler +
I was about to ask for your magic but it might be a curse in my case :o
Who's mafia right now to you? I'm not actually reading this game yet
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:36 GMT
#336
On March 19 2015 08:35 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:33 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
New game, same role


3 times you have said this and 3 times I have asked myself if this is the time its not true. But it never is


o.0

sicklucker have you become rational? o.0


SL confirmed scum

That's three down

This game is awesome already.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:43 GMT
#347
On March 19 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:35 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:29 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
[quote]
Oh thank god you're town again


so fast :/

Yeah and HF is already catching mafia so we can hang out like we didn't get to last game.

Sup?


Sup.

+ Show Spoiler +
You know that I don't have an insta-read on you right? lol You tried to pocket me when you were scum ;o; meanie

+ Show Spoiler +
Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award


+ Show Spoiler +
You scumread him lol >> heyheyhey so no one has posted about your entrance yet. you disappoint?

+ Show Spoiler +
All I'm sayin is, 100% of the time I pocket you I get wrecked d1. Bad play, never getting repeated
And nah, I been in the limelight too much last game, it's no fun even being a flagrant attention whore lmao
People will eventually see your towniness I'm sure


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not concerned. I only ever get mislynched in LYLO xP (nor have i ever seriously needed anyone's help except in that game ><)

+ Show Spoiler +
I was about to ask for your magic but it might be a curse in my case :o
Who's mafia right now to you? I'm not actually reading this game yet


+ Show Spoiler +
Lol, I've gotten better at Day 1 reads, but really? Truffle was an anomaly ^^ Damdy's eager to find those scumlets today though lol. Lucky us they're all posting in the first hour of the game

+ Show Spoiler +
I read only like 2 posts and I think HF might be right about Slam. Didn't you tell me once you could read him reasonably well?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:45 GMT
#352
On March 19 2015 08:44 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:43 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:41 sicklucker wrote:
Slam pretty much just always busses his partners. Sup hf?


then you should be voting for the majority target of alakaslam instead of being tedious and annoying


ninjaed you muthertucker

>ninjaed you muthertucker
>muthertucker
> m u t h e r
> t u c k e r
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:49 GMT
#363
On March 19 2015 08:47 sicklucker wrote:
Slam you look pretty terrible bro. The omgus didnt help

this guy might be mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:50 GMT
#366
On March 19 2015 08:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:43 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:35 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:29 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote:
[quote]
Yeah and HF is already catching mafia so we can hang out like we didn't get to last game.

Sup?


Sup.

+ Show Spoiler +
You know that I don't have an insta-read on you right? lol You tried to pocket me when you were scum ;o; meanie

+ Show Spoiler +
Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award


+ Show Spoiler +
You scumread him lol >> heyheyhey so no one has posted about your entrance yet. you disappoint?

+ Show Spoiler +
All I'm sayin is, 100% of the time I pocket you I get wrecked d1. Bad play, never getting repeated
And nah, I been in the limelight too much last game, it's no fun even being a flagrant attention whore lmao
People will eventually see your towniness I'm sure


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not concerned. I only ever get mislynched in LYLO xP (nor have i ever seriously needed anyone's help except in that game ><)

+ Show Spoiler +
I was about to ask for your magic but it might be a curse in my case :o
Who's mafia right now to you? I'm not actually reading this game yet


+ Show Spoiler +
Lol, I've gotten better at Day 1 reads, but really? Truffle was an anomaly ^^ Damdy's eager to find those scumlets today though lol. Lucky us they're all posting in the first hour of the game

+ Show Spoiler +
I read only like 2 posts and I think HF might be right about Slam. Didn't you tell me once you could read him reasonably well?


+ Show Spoiler +
Slam? I just misread him in the last big...and read him correctly in the last completed mini. Not enough posts yet lol but yes, generally i can get a read on him easier than the majority of the players here

+ Show Spoiler +
where are you at with him so far? also I felt like sicklucker's post to slam was talking at him rather than to him but that might be a stretch
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:50 GMT
#370
hmm i think i like damdred
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:51 GMT
#375
On March 19 2015 08:51 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin is probably town.

she is absolutely town. trust me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:54 GMT
#387
On March 19 2015 08:52 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:51 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin is probably town.

she is absolutely town. trust me


emotes?

it's more than that but yes that read that i make on her that is literally nearly perfect is in effect here
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:55 GMT
#388
On March 19 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
altho shes annoying thats my town read on her

look at this tough guy negging to get a girl's attention
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:56 GMT
#392
On March 19 2015 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:50 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:45 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:43 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:35 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:29 Eden1892 wrote:
[quote]
+ Show Spoiler +
Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award


+ Show Spoiler +
You scumread him lol >> heyheyhey so no one has posted about your entrance yet. you disappoint?

+ Show Spoiler +
All I'm sayin is, 100% of the time I pocket you I get wrecked d1. Bad play, never getting repeated
And nah, I been in the limelight too much last game, it's no fun even being a flagrant attention whore lmao
People will eventually see your towniness I'm sure


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not concerned. I only ever get mislynched in LYLO xP (nor have i ever seriously needed anyone's help except in that game ><)

+ Show Spoiler +
I was about to ask for your magic but it might be a curse in my case :o
Who's mafia right now to you? I'm not actually reading this game yet


+ Show Spoiler +
Lol, I've gotten better at Day 1 reads, but really? Truffle was an anomaly ^^ Damdy's eager to find those scumlets today though lol. Lucky us they're all posting in the first hour of the game

+ Show Spoiler +
I read only like 2 posts and I think HF might be right about Slam. Didn't you tell me once you could read him reasonably well?


+ Show Spoiler +
Slam? I just misread him in the last big...and read him correctly in the last completed mini. Not enough posts yet lol but yes, generally i can get a read on him easier than the majority of the players here

+ Show Spoiler +
where are you at with him so far? also I felt like sicklucker's post to slam was talking at him rather than to him but that might be a stretch


+ Show Spoiler +
sicklucker i am notoriously bad at reading :/ but the more he makes sense the more nervous i get lolol

+ Show Spoiler +
oh. dang i was hoping you could back me up cuz i think i'm ok at reading him too
is slam mafia though i voted to lynch him but he used the bowing emoticon and it makes me want not to lynch lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:57 GMT
#396
On March 19 2015 08:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:51 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin is probably town.

she is absolutely town. trust me

Can you explain this in human terms?

my read transcends words and is in that way the purest form of human terms

which is to say that i am officially Very Good at reading rsoultin after recent games and i am good at reading her tonally
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 23:58 GMT
#400
On March 19 2015 08:55 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:54 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:52 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:51 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin is probably town.

she is absolutely town. trust me


emotes?

it's more than that but yes that read that i make on her that is literally nearly perfect is in effect here


Is it perfect in this situation? or nearly perfect?

i think it's perfect

truthfully i want to call it perfect, period, but i have to acknowledge my shame in horn of africa until i have a big enough body of work
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:01 GMT
#411
On March 19 2015 08:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:57 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:55 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:51 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin is probably town.

she is absolutely town. trust me

Can you explain this in human terms?

my read transcends words and is in that way the purest form of human terms

which is to say that i am officially Very Good at reading rsoultin after recent games and i am good at reading her tonally

So which tonal part about her makes her town?

i am concerned that specifics might be a gamebreaking breach of ethics in the other game we're in right now so i will decline to explain further until i flip in that game somehow

but in general i am very good at reading her tone. her posting is not nearly as reserved and uptight as it is when she's mafia. she's not capitalizing letters and using emoticons, as concrete examples. it's more than that obviously because those are easily replicated and i still read her well but that's some easy to see physical manifestations
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:02 GMT
#415
On March 19 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
altho shes annoying thats my town read on her


...

okay, sicklucker, that's part of eden's read on me, for one, and secondly it is easily replicated xP i did it through titantic and slacked off after eden died >>

i don't for a second believe that you actually read me this way since you've never mentioned it before -_-


Then why would I say it? I say 90% truths when im mafia even


Precisely because you know it will ring true with Eden since it's his way of reading me to begin with xP

nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town

get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:03 GMT
#421
On March 19 2015 09:02 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda sorta maybe believe my reasons for voting Toad. Both of the things I said are true.

#1 "guyses" is not a word any viable human being utters in a normal sentence.
#2 He is half-assedly copying what was a much cooler play when he was town

i feel like a shitty sheep but this also sounds okay

BBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:04 GMT
#423
On March 19 2015 09:03 Damdred wrote:
I actually sort of like Slam as nullish town rather than scum right now, he is different and has a direction at this point which is universally different on this site its true. I'll have to think more on this currently.

Now Eden why would you even bring up where you failed your read on Rsoultin? Your read at the start of the game feels really forced to me (towards Rsoultin) and you then throw a little shadow on it by saying BUT I DID FAIL READING HIM HERE.

Its very strange to me.

it's not forced and i stand by it 100%

this is not the game where she fools me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:07 GMT
#428
On March 19 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:02 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
altho shes annoying thats my town read on her


...

okay, sicklucker, that's part of eden's read on me, for one, and secondly it is easily replicated xP i did it through titantic and slacked off after eden died >>

i don't for a second believe that you actually read me this way since you've never mentioned it before -_-


Then why would I say it? I say 90% truths when im mafia even


Precisely because you know it will ring true with Eden since it's his way of reading me to begin with xP

nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town

get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads


i thought he was talking about the emoticons?

was it the emoticons, SL, or me being annoying? cause if it was me being annoying i misunderstood and that sounds exactly like you lol ><

p. sure he said he read you town because he thinks you're annoying not because you posted emoticons. he posed the latter as a question to me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:08 GMT
#432
On March 19 2015 09:07 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:02 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
altho shes annoying thats my town read on her


...

okay, sicklucker, that's part of eden's read on me, for one, and secondly it is easily replicated xP i did it through titantic and slacked off after eden died >>

i don't for a second believe that you actually read me this way since you've never mentioned it before -_-


Then why would I say it? I say 90% truths when im mafia even


Precisely because you know it will ring true with Eden since it's his way of reading me to begin with xP

nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town

get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads


I dont acualy know what your shitty read is im just going by what im told

stop pushing my mafia bells son
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:09 GMT
#435
the more holyflare posts the less i want to lynch slam

i'm gonna lynch sicklucker instead

unvote vote sl
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:10 GMT
#438
ok i'm hungry and i'm beat as far as mafia goes today.

never lynch rso, lynch sl, probably don't lynch damdred either.

bye for now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:11 GMT
#441
On March 19 2015 09:09 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

Oh thank god you're town again


This is your soul read on Rsoultin?

I was just looking at her recent scum games whats so different tone wise or content wise to make you think that this is totally town from this post?

content-wise eh not a lot yet

tone-wise it's everything. she is so clearly relaxed here. i really don't know how you would look at her mafia games and not see it lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:14 GMT
#444
On March 19 2015 09:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:02 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
altho shes annoying thats my town read on her


...

okay, sicklucker, that's part of eden's read on me, for one, and secondly it is easily replicated xP i did it through titantic and slacked off after eden died >>

i don't for a second believe that you actually read me this way since you've never mentioned it before -_-


Then why would I say it? I say 90% truths when im mafia even


Precisely because you know it will ring true with Eden since it's his way of reading me to begin with xP

nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town

get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads


i thought he was talking about the emoticons?

was it the emoticons, SL, or me being annoying? cause if it was me being annoying i misunderstood and that sounds exactly like you lol ><


It was you being annoying


so i've got a problem here

you're saying you don't know eden's read on me, that you haven't read those games

but you specifically asked him about emoticons when you asked about his read

you're lying to us sicklucker :/ over something that is not at all important

yessssss LAL
sheep me sheeping you sheeping me onto sicklucker
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:15 GMT
#450
On March 19 2015 09:13 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:11 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:09 Damdred wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

Oh thank god you're town again


This is your soul read on Rsoultin?

I was just looking at her recent scum games whats so different tone wise or content wise to make you think that this is totally town from this post?

content-wise eh not a lot yet

tone-wise it's everything. she is so clearly relaxed here. i really don't know how you would look at her mafia games and not see it lol


I'm not talking about her GAMES, i'm talking about first posts since this is what you town read her on. Games I give you she is a lot more uptight as mafia generally, but first posts what is the difference? Ive read some and yes in one game she gets right to the point but in the other she is trolly. So why?

oh no it's not first posts specifically. i don't even know if that's her first post this game, i literally just opened to whatever page that was on, saw that post and knew she was town

she just is soooo much more relaxed. it's unreal. you can call it trolly i guess, it just seems more like someone who can just post whatever she wants cuz she doesn't have to think about what she doesn't know
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:17 GMT
#452
On March 19 2015 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:02 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
altho shes annoying thats my town read on her


...

okay, sicklucker, that's part of eden's read on me, for one, and secondly it is easily replicated xP i did it through titantic and slacked off after eden died >>

i don't for a second believe that you actually read me this way since you've never mentioned it before -_-


Then why would I say it? I say 90% truths when im mafia even


Precisely because you know it will ring true with Eden since it's his way of reading me to begin with xP

nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town

get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads


i thought he was talking about the emoticons?

was it the emoticons, SL, or me being annoying? cause if it was me being annoying i misunderstood and that sounds exactly like you lol ><


It was you being annoying


so i've got a problem here

you're saying you don't know eden's read on me, that you haven't read those games

but you specifically asked him about emoticons when you asked about his read

you're lying to us sicklucker :/ over something that is not at all important


That emocon was thing was brought up in another game you were not in if my memory serves me correctly. Eden you remember this?

what's weird is that you do

On March 19 2015 09:01 sicklucker wrote:
crazy theory but maybe we developed the same read from playing with you? because it is or was a correct read? I was not in or followed games where you and eden played

“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:17 GMT
#454
On March 19 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:08 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Slam, true or false:
Alakaslam is known for playing in a much more serious manner as mafia than as town.

True. And I am smashing that this day.

I want to see the host QT afterward if they are watching this, but I doubt that.

Then why do you scumread HF for using meta that has been correct thus far?

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Holyflare is scum. He knows this is not why I am scumreading him.

I actually wasn't sure earlier now I am.


On March 19 2015 08:23 Alakaslam wrote:
So I point out that Holyflare is using wifom, based on my own actions in the past, and I am scum for it?

Scum need to find mislynches, and wifom is their tool. This is why I like wifom so much and will expose it every chance I get.

FITE me palmar, what, are you scum?


liar

Actually, you lie very descreetly here. You bolded my defense instead of my offense.

I do not think you are scum because you used wifom. I do not think you are scum because you claimed confirmation early.

I think you are scum because you voted on a very weak premise. This is why o hate RVS on smashboards


No. Let's break this down instead of you being an obtuse lying asshole.

I post once that you are mafia, highlighting the post that made you look mafia to me based on previous meta and meta that is generally used in finding mafia and townies that I use successfully in almost every game I ever play. I then post again highlighting a post of toad's that looked like a mafia post.

THEN you vote me. Highlighting my post of my list of 2 people (you and toad) saying i'm not this bad.

I actually misread your post about wifom because I thought you were applying that to me using wifom about yourself instead. So really you misread the entire situation and called me mafia because you thought I was voting you for wifom reasons.

I clarify these reasons are because it is about your TONE of seriousness, your over defensiveness and seriousness again. You then update DO NOT UPDATE YOUR SCUM READ TO RECTIFY YOUR ERROR and instead continue on like I initially voted you because of some wifom which is not the case.

You can clearly see my error in misreading the highlighted because my post explains that my case is based on your meta and disregarding that is based on seriousness, hence why I agree with artanis post.

YOU DO NOT UPDATE ANYTHING EVER.

WHy is this slam? Why are you trying to derail any attempt I had at pushing anything and instead fling shit in my direction when I was being the most productive asset here. You don't even comment on the toad thing which is actually very good indeed.

...jeez, mad much? this feels like mafia hf tunneling someone tbqh
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:23 GMT
#466
On March 19 2015 09:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
I heard about it somewhere but I never saw the context or the game like when I brought it up I was asking a question . That emocon thing? Because I vaguely heard it (from you) but I dont know anything about it. Once again you guys take the smallest qeustion and turn it into something so annoying.

I dont see what your angle is here this is not something I would lie about as either alignment. Its not alignment indignitive,


also we 100% lynch this guy because he was in horn and read the game so knows everything about what they are saying

yessssssssss everybody sheep me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:25 GMT
#475
On March 19 2015 09:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:22 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2015 04:42 sicklucker wrote:
On February 06 2015 04:41 Eden1892 wrote:
Who's ready for my incredibly shitty scumtell on rsoultin
She's posted like 5 emoticons the whole game so she's mafia because she's not laid back and postin like she would as town


Cool bro? So do I vote her? I would like to know who among my scum reads the vote is most likely to go on so I can go have a nap



no don't give him the benefit of the doubt since this quote proves he is 100% a liar


o.0 memory debunked

nice catch HF lol...also light townread to you for looking that one up in the middle of the argument with slam

i literally said that before he did .__________.

i didn't cite the exact game but this is MY point and MY lynch
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:26 GMT
#476
On March 19 2015 09:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Rayn you suck this game, you didn't read and it will likely bite your ass if anyone reads the dead. Good job.

The anger is real. I won't vote slam today.

Or HF. Or Eden.

Today is gonna be really easy.

vote sl
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:27 GMT
#478
On March 19 2015 08:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Alakaslam (4): Holyflare, Artanis, sicklucker, Eden1892
Trfel (1): Artanis, Superbia
Holyflare (1): Alakaslam
Toadesstern (1): Palmar

Not Voting (13): Vivax, rsoultin, Toadesstern, LightningStrike, ExO, Bill Murray, Onegu, Breshke, Fecalfeast, Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, VisceraEyes, Damdred

Currently, Alakaslam is set to be executed.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill.

THIRD ON A WAGON YOUR ASS IS SAGGIN
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:28 GMT
#481
except for rso her ass doesn't sag
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:30 GMT
#485
On March 19 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
my ass is amazingly pert thank you much

i really have to stop responding to these comments lol

+ Show Spoiler +
just post them here
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:31 GMT
#486
On March 19 2015 09:30 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 19 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
my ass is amazingly pert thank you much

i really have to stop responding to these comments lol


[image loading]

wutttt

[image loading]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:47 GMT
#522
On March 19 2015 09:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:33 sicklucker wrote:
spoiler alert

+ Show Spoiler +
I dont really read threads when im mafia. Also I died pretty early in that game


YOU
WERE
TOWN
YOU MOFO LIAR

LMFAO IM DYING
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:48 GMT
#526
On March 19 2015 09:47 sicklucker wrote:
Fyi this is stupid. People use this case on me everygame no matter what I role. I dont remember everything right from 15 games Ive played in 4 months. It does not make me mafia it means I smoke too much weed

lmao you don't smoke weed

“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:49 GMT
#530
On March 19 2015 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
well that leaves me with only SL to ask

SL

SL is just wifom to me. He needs to die a few times as town and come around to knowledge of the game before I can really do much with him.

I had a policy of lynching him. If no one is going for HF (really hard d1 with good reason, but I reiterate he is 80% Mafia in my eyes) I am not agianst SL lynch.

"not against"...? bruh he lied more than once rofl
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:50 GMT
#532
On March 19 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:46 Holyflare wrote:
why on earth do you want to lynch sl if you can't read him at all slam???


I mean it was his strategy when we were mafia together I half expect it....

scum claim.

also don't believe sl. he got modkilled that game and was super salty. there is like 0 way he forgot he was town that game
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:51 GMT
#536
booooooo now i look like a sheep asking extro about his intro since everyone else did it first
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:56 GMT
#546
On March 19 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:50 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:46 Holyflare wrote:
why on earth do you want to lynch sl if you can't read him at all slam???


I mean it was his strategy when we were mafia together I half expect it....

scum claim.

also don't believe sl. he got modkilled that game and was super salty. there is like 0 way he forgot he was town that game


I was modkilled two games inarow once as town and once as mafia... I was salty about both. Also.

YOU WERE MY MAFIA PARTNER REMEMBER? OH YOU DONT YOU MUST BE MAFIA FOR NOT REMEMBERING WITH 10000% ACCURACY.

what the fuck are you even saying

i know you were modkilled as mafia before you were modkilled as town. that doesn't impact that you wouldn't remember horn of africa
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:57 GMT
#551
On March 19 2015 09:51 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:42 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:39 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:36 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:31 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:02 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda sorta maybe believe my reasons for voting Toad. Both of the things I said are true.

#1 "guyses" is not a word any viable human being utters in a normal sentence.
#2 He is half-assedly copying what was a much cooler play when he was town


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=guyses&t=c&f=-1&u=Toadesstern&gb=date&d=

so we know the first thing is a lie from you because you didn't even bother to check a simple TL search for me, despite knowing that you did exactly the same bullshit the last game we played together in which you lynched me when we both were town. I'm starting to believe you're doing this on purpose and not just to start some discussion.

The second thing is the same bullshit you did without explaining anything just "kill toad" you did last game as well and again, I'd think you'd not repeat that especially after last game and having ragequitted there.

So why are you doing this Palmar?


24. Toadesstern As Queen Zeal, Was Lynched Cycle 5!


as mafia

gg


did you even bother going through the list?
You see I'm using it in my towngames as well:
first game is this, second game is JoaT that has Toadesstern in the OP. There are posts in there from outside of mafiagames, yet you only mention one where I was mafia and Palmar didn't even bother to check it at all? Why not come to the conclusion that I'm just using that word a lot no matter what? Even in irc when not playing mafia...


no i didn't bother because it was far too much effort and I don't really care enough to click past one game (+ i still thought joat was ongoing for some reason)


but this doesn't matter because what palmar said is true because it's exactly how I felt

how does it not matter that he
1) mislynched me as town last game we played together going so far as to ragequit after I flipped town because he thought I'm scummy based on my wording d1
2) Goes on to lie about me in this game and how I'd never use that word, shown by the search above without giving a care in the world about what happened last game nor checking if what he's saying about me is correct this time around

In fact it's even worse because this time I can show that he's just lying out of his ass because instead of only writing "kill Toad" he's going a little more into detail... except that he's making shit up that's wrong.

Answer me these two questions: Did you read the game I'm talking about? If you did, what are the chances of Palmar going into the game like this? If you didn't read the game go ask Artanis, he hosted that game. If you know the game you know the chances are 0% if Palmar is actually serious about this and not just pulling some bullshit and since that seems to be the case

##vote Palmar

if this is about hammertime he didn't ragequit
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 00:58 GMT
#554
On March 19 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 19 2015 09:49 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
well that leaves me with only SL to ask

SL

SL is just wifom to me. He needs to die a few times as town and come around to knowledge of the game before I can really do much with him.

I had a policy of lynching him. If no one is going for HF (really hard d1 with good reason, but I reiterate he is 80% Mafia in my eyes) I am not agianst SL lynch.

"not against"...? bruh he lied more than once rofl

yeah but I am not paying attention very well. I am kind of certain of this HF

SO

Who caught it? Where is it?

hf and i did lololol
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 00:58 GMT
#555
On March 19 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote:
Dumbtell boys. How many mafia are there in a game of 20? 5?

7
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:00 GMT
#565
On March 19 2015 09:59 Superbia wrote:
K. What's the thing on SL? He lied hard about another game or something? Pls enlighten.

he tried to play it off like he didn't know what my godread on rsoultin was about (he does)

but he tried to do so by claiming not to have played games with us (he did)

and then he tried to justify it by saying that he wasn't town and doesn't read games when he's mafia (he was town)
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:01 GMT
#567
On March 19 2015 10:00 Alakaslam wrote:
wait, no no no.

If HF says someone is "lying" and a whole bunch of sheep think so, this says nothing.

uh excuse me technically HE'S sheeping ME
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:02 GMT
#570
oh also rsoultin and i are town this game.

take it to the bank, that check will clear
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:03 GMT
#576
On March 19 2015 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On March 19 2015 09:59 ExO_ wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote:
Just saw that game started. Staring to read now. What is up with trfel's entrance into the thread? Am I supposed to interpret it as trolling or what exactly?


whatever you want it to mean baby

you tell me what you think of it


I think it doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective to post like that. And like immediately out of the gate too. It doesn't really make sense from any other perspective either. But my initial thought is: if you're mafia, your teammates probably are going to be pissed that you did that. So it's much more likely that he's a Town trolling.

I can kinda go down the road of "that's what he wants us to think" but I think that makes things too complicated. So for now I think that makes him town.

But it feels wrong to give somebody town points for coming out of the gate and saying they are scum.

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I think ExO is probably town though.

yeah i kinda agree
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:06 GMT
#582
On March 19 2015 10:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote:
Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5?

This is gonna sound really dumb but I think Superbia and Trfel are never going to be mafia together. This is just not something you repeat as mafia when another mafia's asked it already and especially after I called Superb out on his tone for it.

not dumb at all

i think you can be town this game
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:07 GMT
#587
the fact that exo bothered to dig into all of that wifom about trfel

and then concluded trfel was vt

probably makes exo town. i really only see scum bothering with that if they're going to try to dredge up a lynch target
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:08 GMT
#590
On March 19 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote:
Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5?


Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel

am i wrong?

...i'm not actually sure that you're wrong
why did he narrow it down to 4 or 5 if he didn't know how many mafia there are?
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:09 GMT
#594
you know i kinda like rso scumreading trfel
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:11 GMT
#598
On March 19 2015 10:07 sicklucker wrote:
Im not in anyhole super its a bunch of people who cant read me spouting the same nonsense about me on day 1 that they did in the last 8 games. Yes I confuse people I confuse myself. No it does not make me mafoa

i am getting pretty good at reading you tbh. but my reading you isn't instant-speed like my r-soulreads. so maybe i am wrong and will need time

you're gonna have to do some shit and prove yourself though like superbia and hf said. i don't want to reach a particular conclusion on you except the right one.

i ain't got questions for ya boyo do your own thing for a bit and be townie. you know if you do it i'll come around to it
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:11 GMT
#600
in the meantime i'm going to give rsoultin's read a seal of approval

unvote vote trfel
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:12 GMT
#606
On March 19 2015 10:11 Trfel wrote:
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On March 19 2015 10:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote:
Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5?


Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel

am i wrong?

...i'm not actually sure that you're wrong
why did he narrow it down to 4 or 5 if he didn't know how many mafia there are?
Why 4 or 5? Because those are (to the best of my knowledge) the only possibilities. Superbia's only answer was 7, and I don't think that is true.

The recent Titanic mafia was 17 players, with one third party, so 16 players. There were 4 mafia. I believe the standard large games (Carol of the Bells, Imperial Mafia, for example) have 5 mafia. Thus, I expect this game to have 4 or 5 mafia.

I'm asking because I feel that it is helpful to know how many mafia are in the game. Maybe you disagree, but I would like to know. And I don't have enough experience to really know if there would be 4 or 5 mafia, especially not compared to many of the players in this game.

ugh im cringing from how fraudulent this sounds

i hate that i can't find the words for why i do. rso what do you think about this
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:13 GMT
#608
On March 19 2015 10:13 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 19 2015 10:12 Superbia wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:11 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote:
Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5?


Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel

am i wrong?

...i'm not actually sure that you're wrong
why did he narrow it down to 4 or 5 if he didn't know how many mafia there are?
Why 4 or 5? Because those are (to the best of my knowledge) the only possibilities. Superbia's only answer was 7, and I don't think that is true.

The recent Titanic mafia was 17 players, with one third party, so 16 players. There were 4 mafia. I believe the standard large games (Carol of the Bells, Imperial Mafia, for example) have 5 mafia. Thus, I expect this game to have 4 or 5 mafia.

I'm asking because I feel that it is helpful to know how many mafia are in the game. Maybe you disagree, but I would like to know. And I don't have enough experience to really know if there would be 4 or 5 mafia, especially not compared to many of the players in this game.


Why the fuck did you feel the need to justify your question to this degree?


I really like his answer

wait why

it sounds fake to me ._.
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:14 GMT
#613
or at least the part i bolded. i could see the first 2 paragraphs coming from a townie but the last part just seems like it's posturing.

like yeah i think knowing the # of mafia is good. lol please. that's not the issue
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 01:16 GMT
#617
eh. i still don't like it. but if rso and artie and hf all like it then i'll worry about something else for now


speaking of. hf why were you so pissed at slam earlier? i commented on how it was giving me mafia vibes from you earlier if you want to find the example. i don't think you're mafia based on total body of work but that post gave me the heebie-jeebies
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March 19 2015 01:17 GMT
#622
On March 19 2015 10:16 sicklucker wrote:
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On March 19 2015 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
yeh sl gimme some quick reads


Half the thread has not even posted.

Eden has an agenda and is not interested in listening too me.
Ve is a town role
Rsout is super annoying so town by my own read
Palmer and toad are going at it and no one cares and are ignoring the rest of the game.
Slam is mafia
Hf always thinks im lying for some reason so probably town
Damdred hasint tunneled me yet so thats weird.
Rayn is mia but its a bad timezone for him
I think ff is town and he harclaimed vt
I cant remember one thing artanis said.
Super didnt do anything but vote a town.

The rest are usually background players anyway

i do not. ._.

why is slam straight up mafia to you
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:00 GMT
#705
i can't believe i just lost to white weenies and a 4-color jank mill combo back-to-back. fucking deck just hates me rn

what'd i miss
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:01 GMT
#709
On March 19 2015 11:01 Superbia wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i can't believe i just lost to white weenies and a 4-color jank mill combo back-to-back. fucking deck just hates me rn

what'd i miss


What format? What deck your running?

standard, abzan aggro

variance is just Ravaging me today
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 19 2015 02:03 GMT
#715
i opened my first 6 packs in december and found 3 windswept heaths

abzan was my destiny
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:04 GMT
#717
On March 19 2015 11:03 Trfel wrote:
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On March 19 2015 10:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:55 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:52 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 10:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
am I wrong or did eden fakeclaim miller?
I think there's a very reasonable chance it's a joke. Though of course you are right that if Eden is in fact a miller, he wouldn't know.

Claiming unaware miller is something I was planning on doing eventually. Actually, I would have done that this game, but I forgot and claimed mafia instead.

idk yours was obviously tongue-in-cheek. This was a lot more subtle if it was a joke
I'm still inclined to give Eden the benefit of the doubt, and I see no real reason to say he isn't joking.

Well then I'm excited that you've given eden an out if he did infact slip.
You asked for an answer twice, so I provided one. Eden isn't a moron, I'm sure that if he actually is scum, he would say the same thing.

And I have two other reasons to say that this isn't a scumslip.

1. Look at Eden's tone. By saying the specific name of the miller, he shows that he's read the first page to find out what the miller is, which contains the phrase You are not aware. So, it's extremely unlikely that Eden didn't know that the miller was unaware. Furthermore, if he wanted to claim as scum, he would have said straight-out that he is claiming, not this indirect reference. Thus, I'm inclined to think that Eden is joking.

2. Eden townread rsoultin very strongly, and very early in the game. And he did this knowing that he wouldn't be able to provide good reasons for it, much less explain this read to the thread. I don't really see why mafia!Eden would want to do this.

i did the 2nd one as mafia before and i don't remember if i did the first one as mafia before but i definitely did it as town before
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:04 GMT
#719
On March 19 2015 11:03 Superbia wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:03 Eden1892 wrote:
i opened my first 6 packs in december and found 3 windswept heaths

abzan was my destiny


You're disgusting. 3 fetches in 6 packs? I want to lynch you. Kinda.

oh don't worry it's all gone downhill from there
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:05 GMT
#720
oh ok sicklucker confirmed i did the 1st one

lol
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:05 GMT
#721
i'm pretty happy fecalfeast noticed my first easter egg but the fact that we're still talking about this means no one noticed my second and that makes me sad.
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:09 GMT
#730
On March 19 2015 11:06 Onegu wrote:
I'm not here, I am not VT.

HAHAHAHAHAH
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:09 GMT
#732
On March 19 2015 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do either of you guys want to buy like 10000+ disorganized cards dating from planeshift until about theros? Rares uncommons commons lands all of it

sounds like it's not standard legal

not in the budget for that, thanks tho


also have a townread. good eye on the miller thing
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:14 GMT
#741
superbia isn't my qt
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:15 GMT
#748
i mean superbia CAN be a qt but he's not MY qt. no offense intended~

hey onegu guess what i'm eating rn
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:20 GMT
#756
On March 19 2015 11:15 sicklucker wrote:
But im not sure what to make of the third one. Even if the second one was a slip he could just decide to make it a running gag. It does not make him mafia but it is suspicious.

I'm gonna go ahead and help you out on this one.

Waaaaaay back before your time... [pulls up lawn chair and glass of sweet tea]
Back in the dog days of summer 2014... [swats a mosquito]
There was a game. It was a great game. Not just any great game, it was MELEE MINI MAFIA.
It was my first game with Palmar, marvellosity and the rest of the homies. 18 players, all hydras together but posting on different accounts. My main homie OnceKing was in the game and we confirmed ourselves town to each other like 5 minutes into the game cuz I claimed vanilla town in red print and then went after the other homie Tehpoofter for scumreading me for it. OK shouted BAAAAAAAAAAAA and sheeped it and that's how we knew we was town. We went on to wreck shit and make Artanis quit. It was my first win on TL Mafia.
(The funny thing is that I wasn't even VT. LOL)

I haven't done it in EVERY game since, but a healthy number of my games include straight up shitpost fakeclaims as an homage to possibly my favorite game I ever played on TL
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:22 GMT
#761
On March 19 2015 11:21 Onegu wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:15 Eden1892 wrote:
i mean superbia CAN be a qt but he's not MY qt. no offense intended~

hey onegu guess what i'm eating rn



I told you I'm not here...

I am or am not groot, I would def be groot as I am big not small.

well you might want to be here soon cuz I'M EATING PICKLES GET REKT
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:24 GMT
#763
On March 19 2015 11:22 Onegu wrote:
Breadcrumb^

On March 19 2015 11:21 Onegu wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:15 Eden1892 wrote:
i mean superbia CAN be a qt but he's not MY qt. no offense intended~

hey onegu guess what i'm eating rn



I told you I'm not here...

I am or am not groot, I would def be groot as I am big not small.

GOTTEM
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:25 GMT
#767
l.m.a.o.

bro i literally already knew that about you. hence why i said i'm getting good at reading you but i need time to know 4sure

that is the most open of open secrets
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:25 GMT
#769
On March 19 2015 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and Superbia is scumreading me for not being here T_T Also I saw Trfel and Eden claimed Mafia and I thinking they just trolling knowing that Eden loves to troll as Town and Trfel being a newish player I don't think he would pull a Damdred. Also saw HF made a meta point about Slam being Mafia but I can't read Slam for shit since after Carol when I read him right. Should I sheep your thing on Slam HF?

??? what makes you say that
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:30 GMT
#784
On March 19 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and Superbia is scumreading me for not being here T_T Also I saw Trfel and Eden claimed Mafia and I thinking they just trolling knowing that Eden loves to troll as Town and Trfel being a newish player I don't think he would pull a Damdred. Also saw HF made a meta point about Slam being Mafia but I can't read Slam for shit since after Carol when I read him right. Should I sheep your thing on Slam HF?

??? what makes you say that

Slam is always a confusing player when trying to read him. He's the master of WIFOM as both alignments but there is so little difference between his scum play and town play as far I can tell tbh with you bro.

no, but you say you can't read him for shit since after Carol when [you] read him right. this implies to me that you read him right in Carol but then for some reason no longer read him right now
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:32 GMT
#789
On March 19 2015 11:29 sicklucker wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and Superbia is scumreading me for not being here T_T Also I saw Trfel and Eden claimed Mafia and I thinking they just trolling knowing that Eden loves to troll as Town and Trfel being a newish player I don't think he would pull a Damdred. Also saw HF made a meta point about Slam being Mafia but I can't read Slam for shit since after Carol when I read him right. Should I sheep your thing on Slam HF?

??? what makes you say that

Slam is always a confusing player when trying to read him. He's the master of WIFOM as both alignments but there is so little difference between his scum play and town play as far I can tell tbh with you bro.


Hes a really easy mafia read to me. Im not totally sure yet tho. being his mafia partner twice has helped my read on him

be a good craftsman and explain your tools then and why they haven't led you to a conclusion yet
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 19 2015 02:34 GMT
#793
wait a goddamned minute

On March 19 2015 10:16 sicklucker wrote:
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On March 19 2015 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
yeh sl gimme some quick reads

Slam is mafia


On March 19 2015 11:29 sicklucker wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and Superbia is scumreading me for not being here T_T Also I saw Trfel and Eden claimed Mafia and I thinking they just trolling knowing that Eden loves to troll as Town and Trfel being a newish player I don't think he would pull a Damdred. Also saw HF made a meta point about Slam being Mafia but I can't read Slam for shit since after Carol when I read him right. Should I sheep your thing on Slam HF?

??? what makes you say that

Slam is always a confusing player when trying to read him. He's the master of WIFOM as both alignments but there is so little difference between his scum play and town play as far I can tell tbh with you bro.


Hes a really easy mafia read to me. Im not totally sure yet tho. being his mafia partner twice has helped my read on him


On March 19 2015 11:31 sicklucker wrote:
Scumteam is like dandred, slam ,super toad, palmer .maybe eden
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:35 GMT
#795
On March 19 2015 11:34 Superbia wrote:
Well at least you didn't forget your slam hard-scum read.

he did at first lol

kinda makes me think that's where the unprompted scumteam suggestion came from
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:39 GMT
#800
On March 19 2015 11:38 LightningStrike wrote:
So Eden thoughts on sicklucker so far?

honestly idk. i feel like my own arguments against him are becoming progressively gotcha-type arguments instead of legit evaluations and that i'm not really being fair

i'm probably gonna sit on it for a bit
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 02:44 GMT
#807
On March 19 2015 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:39 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:38 LightningStrike wrote:
So Eden thoughts on sicklucker so far?

honestly idk. i feel like my own arguments against him are becoming progressively gotcha-type arguments instead of legit evaluations and that i'm not really being fair

i'm probably gonna sit on it for a bit

Alright noted. Any other thoughts on other people?

rsoultin is town.
Damdred, Fecalfeast, Superbia pretty townie so far.
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Eden1892
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March 19 2015 03:58 GMT
#838
On March 19 2015 12:51 Trfel wrote:
Thanks, that makes sense.

That's one nice thing about no post limits, I can thank people for answering questions and it doesn't feel like I'm wasting a post.

i like this guy
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 19 2015 04:01 GMT
#842
good lord i'm at 5pg filter already

i'm not talking for the rest of the night

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except in spoilers to rsoultin
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this will probably still blow up my filter...
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oh well
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:05 GMT
#850
On March 19 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 19 2015 13:01 Eden1892 wrote:
good lord i'm at 5pg filter already

i'm not talking for the rest of the night

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except in spoilers to rsoultin
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this will probably still blow up my filter...
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oh well


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lol you realize we're going to make reading our filters a bitch to the rest of the players this way, right? xP that said, I'm comfortable giving you a day 1 town pass at this point congrats

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my filters are always a bitch to the rest of the players
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! mafia is super fucked now that we 100% on the same page
what movie did you go see?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:08 GMT
#853
On March 19 2015 13:06 Trfel wrote:
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On March 19 2015 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:52 Trfel wrote:
On March 17 2015 10:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey

This game

I am doing what I never do

Pregame wifom excuse

So it should actually hold weight

I have no idea what my schedule will do this week. It could get very busy, it could be I AM HEER

Depends unfortunately
Anyone remember this?

It's still true and why I have been in and out
Just noticed this.

I referred to the "I am doing what I never do" part, as in Alakaslam playing seriously. Alakaslam thought I was referring to activity. Perhaps he is being self-conscious?

Dang, I already got baited into replying.

The thing he claims never to do is make pregame wifom excuses for activity. Slam wasn't talking about playing especially seriously there
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:13 GMT
#859
On March 19 2015 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 19 2015 13:05 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:01 Eden1892 wrote:
good lord i'm at 5pg filter already

i'm not talking for the rest of the night

+ Show Spoiler +
except in spoilers to rsoultin
+ Show Spoiler +
this will probably still blow up my filter...
+ Show Spoiler +
oh well


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lol you realize we're going to make reading our filters a bitch to the rest of the players this way, right? xP that said, I'm comfortable giving you a day 1 town pass at this point congrats

+ Show Spoiler +
my filters are always a bitch to the rest of the players
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! mafia is super fucked now that we 100% on the same page
what movie did you go see?


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Was watching Guardians so references don't go over my head lol xP they prolly still will i think i've already forgotten half the movie o.0

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ohhh, duh. lol. ya it seems pretty silly but i haven't actually watched it. i just wikipedia'd some references so i could make a funny miller fakeclaim. could be a fun movie to watch tho i guess
soooo i kinda think slam is town now. thoughts?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:20 GMT
#874
On March 19 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 19 2015 13:13 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:05 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:01 Eden1892 wrote:
good lord i'm at 5pg filter already

i'm not talking for the rest of the night

+ Show Spoiler +
except in spoilers to rsoultin
+ Show Spoiler +
this will probably still blow up my filter...
+ Show Spoiler +
oh well


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lol you realize we're going to make reading our filters a bitch to the rest of the players this way, right? xP that said, I'm comfortable giving you a day 1 town pass at this point congrats

+ Show Spoiler +
my filters are always a bitch to the rest of the players
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! mafia is super fucked now that we 100% on the same page
what movie did you go see?


+ Show Spoiler +
Was watching Guardians so references don't go over my head lol xP they prolly still will i think i've already forgotten half the movie o.0

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ohhh, duh. lol. ya it seems pretty silly but i haven't actually watched it. i just wikipedia'd some references so i could make a funny miller fakeclaim. could be a fun movie to watch tho i guess
soooo i kinda think slam is town now. thoughts?


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xP I know I've gotten progressively less explicit on my reads the last several games, but you honestly can't tell? lol

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ok fine that was a useless question lol. serves me right for playing smash and mafia at the same time
how good are you at reading LS? it's dawning on me i'm not actually especially good at it :/ not sure what to think of his earlygame. it's typical LS but something about the thing he said with Slam in his intro bugged me a bit
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:31 GMT
#890
Too many people are talking about things that interest me.

Trfel I like Damdred for two reasons:
- I feel like his tone is townie. Damdred was really frustrated in the last game we played together (I had a part in that :/) and ended up replacing out cuz he got burned out. Right out of the gate he comes in, he's posting and involved, he seems happy and he's getting right to work. I dunno if Damdred enjoys being mafia much but I know he enjoys being town (or at least seems to; he gets a lot out of the casework and questioning), and it just looked to me like somebody gave him a clean slate to go out and solve another mystery.
- I've liked where his head has been with regard to the things he's been asking about. I don't remember specifics right now but he's made a few observations that showed me his head is in the game.

Slam I actually play melee not pm lol. Used to Marth main but I switched to Sheik because speed and moves that are faceroll-level easy to string together into ad-libbed combos is pretty perfect for someone who plays casually. You should talk to OnceKing sometime he loves smash
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:35 GMT
#891
On March 19 2015 13:24 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 19 2015 13:20 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:13 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:05 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:01 Eden1892 wrote:
good lord i'm at 5pg filter already

i'm not talking for the rest of the night

+ Show Spoiler +
except in spoilers to rsoultin
+ Show Spoiler +
this will probably still blow up my filter...
+ Show Spoiler +
oh well


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lol you realize we're going to make reading our filters a bitch to the rest of the players this way, right? xP that said, I'm comfortable giving you a day 1 town pass at this point congrats

+ Show Spoiler +
my filters are always a bitch to the rest of the players
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! mafia is super fucked now that we 100% on the same page
what movie did you go see?


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Was watching Guardians so references don't go over my head lol xP they prolly still will i think i've already forgotten half the movie o.0

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ohhh, duh. lol. ya it seems pretty silly but i haven't actually watched it. i just wikipedia'd some references so i could make a funny miller fakeclaim. could be a fun movie to watch tho i guess
soooo i kinda think slam is town now. thoughts?


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xP I know I've gotten progressively less explicit on my reads the last several games, but you honestly can't tell? lol

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ok fine that was a useless question lol. serves me right for playing smash and mafia at the same time
how good are you at reading LS? it's dawning on me i'm not actually especially good at it :/ not sure what to think of his earlygame. it's typical LS but something about the thing he said with Slam in his intro bugged me a bit


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I always understand exactly what he's saying xP which i think is half the problem most people have in reading him. But I don't have a read on him yet this game. Not making the JOAT mistake again lol

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that actually makes a ton of sense lol. you cool with me just making you my lightning whisperer this game? i got faith in your m4d r34d1ng ski11z
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:37 GMT
#892
Also Toad, I'm with rso, I don't think what you're saying makes Palmar mafia. Palmar loves trolling and isn't in a position to botch a game singlehandedly by going too far with a bad read like in Hammertime, so the odds of him doing this again seem like they're pretty high. At a minimum the situations don't seem like they're analogous. You seem alright but I think you're reading too far into Palmar's play rn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:38 GMT
#894
On March 19 2015 13:37 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 19 2015 13:35 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:24 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:20 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:13 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:05 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:01 Eden1892 wrote:
good lord i'm at 5pg filter already

i'm not talking for the rest of the night

+ Show Spoiler +
except in spoilers to rsoultin
+ Show Spoiler +
this will probably still blow up my filter...
+ Show Spoiler +
oh well


+ Show Spoiler +
lol you realize we're going to make reading our filters a bitch to the rest of the players this way, right? xP that said, I'm comfortable giving you a day 1 town pass at this point congrats

+ Show Spoiler +
my filters are always a bitch to the rest of the players
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! mafia is super fucked now that we 100% on the same page
what movie did you go see?


+ Show Spoiler +
Was watching Guardians so references don't go over my head lol xP they prolly still will i think i've already forgotten half the movie o.0

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ohhh, duh. lol. ya it seems pretty silly but i haven't actually watched it. i just wikipedia'd some references so i could make a funny miller fakeclaim. could be a fun movie to watch tho i guess
soooo i kinda think slam is town now. thoughts?


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xP I know I've gotten progressively less explicit on my reads the last several games, but you honestly can't tell? lol

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ok fine that was a useless question lol. serves me right for playing smash and mafia at the same time
how good are you at reading LS? it's dawning on me i'm not actually especially good at it :/ not sure what to think of his earlygame. it's typical LS but something about the thing he said with Slam in his intro bugged me a bit


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I always understand exactly what he's saying xP which i think is half the problem most people have in reading him. But I don't have a read on him yet this game. Not making the JOAT mistake again lol

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that actually makes a ton of sense lol. you cool with me just making you my lightning whisperer this game? i got faith in your m4d r34d1ng ski11z


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except my m4d r34d1ng ski11z are about as consistent as a tweenie picking out an outfit for a night out xP i'd rather get people to discuss my reads with me lol

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lmao, aight then i'll give it my best. bear in mind i have a propensity to townread the shit out of ls regardless of what he actually does cuz he's adorable so idk if i'm the best springboard
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 04:45 GMT
#897
Sure thing. Who are your suspects right now, Trfel? You're saying a lot of pretty sensible things and asking questions that are showing me you're paying attention, but I'm not sure who you suspect.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 05:11 GMT
#905
hmmm. we'll talk tomorrow trfel after you're mostly caught up

and whenever you intend to actually give some details that matter bill lemme know
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 05:20 GMT
#910
On March 19 2015 14:13 Bill Murray wrote:
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On March 19 2015 09:27 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Alakaslam (4): Holyflare, Artanis, sicklucker, Eden1892
Trfel (1): Artanis, Superbia
Holyflare (1): Alakaslam
Toadesstern (1): Palmar

Not Voting (13): Vivax, rsoultin, Toadesstern, LightningStrike, ExO, Bill Murray, Onegu, Breshke, Fecalfeast, Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, VisceraEyes, Damdred

Currently, Alakaslam is set to be executed.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill.

THIRD ON A WAGON YOUR ASS IS SAGGIN

and you were 4th on the same wagon which is a jeep tell in the rvs

whenever you'd like to stop looking at a checklist and start playing the game lemme know

On March 19 2015 14:14 Bill Murray wrote:
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On March 19 2015 14:11 Eden1892 wrote:
hmmm. we'll talk tomorrow trfel after you're mostly caught up

and whenever you intend to actually give some details that matter bill lemme know

you can attempt to dismiss this but you know for a fact im town so good luck

i don't know shit about you or your alignment this game

On March 19 2015 14:14 Bill Murray wrote:
Also i'd like to say (page 25 now) I'm willing to lynch sicklucker for blatantly lying (if he indeed did)

yes good sheep me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 05:29 GMT
#914
On March 19 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
Why you gotta be spreading falsehoods why I replaced out Eden tsk tsk tsk.

Anyway <3 bm just don't fake claim a cop/tracker this game.

I've got to sleep. But seriously I am sorta liking where trfels head is so far, its not that hard seeing the thought process so far and where she's going. So that is a good thing.

Reminder to self read toads filter.

also hopefully ve and vivax do stuff tommorow

lol, my bad, i figured it was cuz you were burned out. you totally were tho so my read totally stands
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 05:43 GMT
#916
On March 19 2015 14:33 Bill Murray wrote:
eden you got any questions for me?
iwont be here but another hour or so

will you be sad when my Bayou Bengals win the tourney
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:07 GMT
#934
On March 19 2015 14:58 Bill Murray wrote:
self meta is the worst meta Eden

wait when did i do that this game
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:09 GMT
#936
hm this ve read on ff doesn't sit right with me

ff has done more than just shitpost in my recollection
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:13 GMT
#941
On March 19 2015 15:12 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 19 2015 15:09 Breshke wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:05 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:04 Breshke wrote:
hey guys


caught up bresh?


nope just started a little ago. Eden seems townie which makes you seem towny

On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
>>

hf wasting no time

are you a slam whisperer? i thought i had him pegged but i was right and wrong at the same time so back to being not so sure after just a page or two of posting lol

In case there's any doubt, rsoultin is town. Mindmeld + godreads.

You're welcome town


Like this post is very similar to posts ive seen eden make as town havnt really seen him play scum (like once) idk if he gives townreads that easily. Even so it's a good read but idk how relevant this is at this stage haha.

Is there anything i should look at right now? else im just going to keep going from where i am.

i won't pollute you with bias before you've even started

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too late you've already convinced him we're town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:16 GMT
#943
idk why i checked back in cuz im not actually gonna try right now

here's a reads list without explanations to digest

confirmed town: rsoultin
don't lynch: damdred, trfel, ff, superbia
probs don't lynch: slam
minor heebie-jeebies: holyflare, ve
lynch pile: sicklucker, exo

all others null
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:18 GMT
#945
oh i feel like toad might be town too maybe. he seemed to believe what he was saying about palmar. put him in the tier with slam
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:21 GMT
#947
On March 19 2015 15:18 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 19 2015 15:13 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:12 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:09 Breshke wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:05 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:04 Breshke wrote:
hey guys


caught up bresh?


nope just started a little ago. Eden seems townie which makes you seem towny

On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
>>

hf wasting no time

are you a slam whisperer? i thought i had him pegged but i was right and wrong at the same time so back to being not so sure after just a page or two of posting lol

In case there's any doubt, rsoultin is town. Mindmeld + godreads.

You're welcome town


Like this post is very similar to posts ive seen eden make as town havnt really seen him play scum (like once) idk if he gives townreads that easily. Even so it's a good read but idk how relevant this is at this stage haha.

Is there anything i should look at right now? else im just going to keep going from where i am.

i won't pollute you with bias before you've even started

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too late you've already convinced him we're town


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that was actually you tonereading me on my first post lolol xP you can milk it a little for dramatic effect next time >> i give you permission

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what, just a toneread dazzled him with our towniness? i'm not that charming, am i?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:33 GMT
#961
On March 19 2015 15:24 Bill Murray wrote:
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On March 19 2015 11:20 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:15 sicklucker wrote:
But im not sure what to make of the third one. Even if the second one was a slip he could just decide to make it a running gag. It does not make him mafia but it is suspicious.

I'm gonna go ahead and help you out on this one.

Waaaaaay back before your time... [pulls up lawn chair and glass of sweet tea]
Back in the dog days of summer 2014... [swats a mosquito]
There was a game. It was a great game. Not just any great game, it was MELEE MINI MAFIA.
It was my first game with Palmar, marvellosity and the rest of the homies. 18 players, all hydras together but posting on different accounts. My main homie OnceKing was in the game and we confirmed ourselves town to each other like 5 minutes into the game cuz I claimed vanilla town in red print and then went after the other homie Tehpoofter for scumreading me for it. OK shouted BAAAAAAAAAAAA and sheeped it and that's how we knew we was town. We went on to wreck shit and make Artanis quit. It was my first win on TL Mafia.
(The funny thing is that I wasn't even VT. LOL)

I haven't done it in EVERY game since, but a healthy number of my games include straight up shitpost fakeclaims as an homage to possibly my favorite game I ever played on TL

page 38

Bruh that's explaining a running gag that's longer than a pregnancy by now. Not even close to the same thing
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:35 GMT
#965
On March 19 2015 15:26 Bill Murray wrote:
also im going to dip off topic but when UK traveled to LSU it scared the shit out of me and I expected that to be our only loss (that I've expected this far)

i was hopin we could get it. i feel like we got a ton of talent, they (and the coaches) just need to keep their heads in the game. too much damn inconsistency

i'm hype tho. tourney this year... simmons and blakeney (and maybe newman????) next year with anybody returning... hell yea man!
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:36 GMT
#967
On March 19 2015 15:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On March 19 2015 15:31 Bill Murray wrote:
VE What do you read of Toad?
What about Eden's hint of Yondu?

I give no weight to claims at this point.

And Toad I'm policy waiting on. Til probably like halfway through the second day of d1. So like, ask me again tomorrow. He's a guy I take extra special caution in lynching because historically I disagree with Toad and want to lynch him regardless of alignment. It's led to some pretty spectacular busses in the past.

not even claims that literally can't be true
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:37 GMT
#970
On March 19 2015 15:35 Bill Murray wrote:
eden that was totally self meta but im willing to drop it because i like your spoilered post about LS. i found his entrance into the game a bit bugging as well

maybe you can be the homie after all

why is ve supposed to want to lynch you rn?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:37 GMT
#973
lol i would get lynched for SO MUCH SHIT anywhere else

it's why tlmafia is the crib
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:38 GMT
#976
On March 19 2015 15:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On March 19 2015 15:30 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:16 rsoultin wrote:
meh ve

boring filter

your reads are more or less mirroring mine for the moment, though, apart from FF...FF is such a copout vote at this stage lol xP and i think you know it

I have reasons for all of my townreads, available on request, though if you agree with them I don't see the point.

Like seriously, how is it a copout vote? It's not - it's a vote based on my observation. A bunch of people are in here trying to figure out the game. FF doesn't look like one of them to me.


your observation is he has a crap filter xP but he picked up on a post of eden's that everyone else glossed over, and it's the sort of thing i'd expect him to key on as town

no offense to FF or anything, but he doesn't tend to keep on topic regardless lol and i know that you're aware of this. you were playing with him when he was still in his lazy ass policy lynch/vig slump

Well that's perfectly reasonable, and why I asked you. See? Cooperation!

I do know that, but I'm not willing to put someone on a no-lynch list for it. As I said, it's too easy and mafia and town do it in equal measure. But from MY experience with FF that's laced with in-game nuggets. You picked up on one I missed because YOU are having a little thing with Eden and that's fine.

sorry you aren't pseudomasons?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:38 GMT
#977
On March 19 2015 15:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On March 19 2015 15:36 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:31 Bill Murray wrote:
VE What do you read of Toad?
What about Eden's hint of Yondu?

I give no weight to claims at this point.

And Toad I'm policy waiting on. Til probably like halfway through the second day of d1. So like, ask me again tomorrow. He's a guy I take extra special caution in lynching because historically I disagree with Toad and want to lynch him regardless of alignment. It's led to some pretty spectacular busses in the past.

not even claims that literally can't be true

Consider it from a mafia perspective. Like, it's possible he just didn't read to see if it was self aware or something and made a mistake, but how likely is that? Fake-claiming draws attention to one's self regardless of whether it's like a running gag or not, DOES he make that mistake? DOES he care? As either alignment? I just find it uninteresting as something to read him on right now.

you can talk about me like i'm talking to you anytime you want
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:41 GMT
#983
On March 19 2015 15:39 Bill Murray wrote:
can someone explain chupazi to me... it feels like a mix of omgus and trolling?

i think it's supposed to be general badstuff. like a foul miasma whose tendrils slowly tether themselves around the very soul of TLMafiaTown

slam is really the only one who can explain this though
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:43 GMT
#987
On March 19 2015 15:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 15:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:30 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:16 rsoultin wrote:
meh ve

boring filter

your reads are more or less mirroring mine for the moment, though, apart from FF...FF is such a copout vote at this stage lol xP and i think you know it

I have reasons for all of my townreads, available on request, though if you agree with them I don't see the point.

Like seriously, how is it a copout vote? It's not - it's a vote based on my observation. A bunch of people are in here trying to figure out the game. FF doesn't look like one of them to me.


your observation is he has a crap filter xP but he picked up on a post of eden's that everyone else glossed over, and it's the sort of thing i'd expect him to key on as town

no offense to FF or anything, but he doesn't tend to keep on topic regardless lol and i know that you're aware of this. you were playing with him when he was still in his lazy ass policy lynch/vig slump

Well that's perfectly reasonable, and why I asked you. See? Cooperation!

I do know that, but I'm not willing to put someone on a no-lynch list for it. As I said, it's too easy and mafia and town do it in equal measure. But from MY experience with FF that's laced with in-game nuggets. You picked up on one I missed because YOU are having a little thing with Eden and that's fine.


?? lol what does my having a thing with Eden have to do with FF? xP

dude i totally said why i wasn't lynching him today a couple posts before you asked me. i don't mind elaborating, but repeating myself on the same page -twitches-

To be fair, I may not have read it because I was filtering at the time and just reaction posting in the thread.

Anyway, just bear with me - I just spent 3 hours mentoring on a video mafia stream, I thought filtering selectively would be a more efficient use of my time. I ticked you off as town earlier on for something so you weren't someone I was filtering XD

admit it, you sheeped my townread on her

it's ok. literally everybody should every single game
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:49 GMT
#997
On March 19 2015 15:46 rsoultin wrote:
eden senpai, focus

super...i'm not scumming him but the townread is because?

he seems like he cares

i admit i'm probably sleeping on his scum game, but my experience with it in imperial was... less than stellar. i'm not convinced superbia is a player who can get motivated to play scum very easily given his comments in this game, and he seemed pretty engaged when he was here.

where do you have him?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:50 GMT
#999
On March 19 2015 15:47 Bill Murray wrote:
oh i forgot to mention i need to go.

someone who's played with bill before... i townread this. i have no idea why i townread this. i think it's because it's a little post that i feel like you only think to say as town even though there's no reason why you couldn't do that as mafia. does he do this on the reg? am i crazy? or maybe just dumb

or maybe just right. o0o0o0o0o0o
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 06:54 GMT
#1005
On March 19 2015 15:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 15:49 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:46 rsoultin wrote:
eden senpai, focus

super...i'm not scumming him but the townread is because?

he seems like he cares

i admit i'm probably sleeping on his scum game, but my experience with it in imperial was... less than stellar. i'm not convinced superbia is a player who can get motivated to play scum very easily given his comments in this game, and he seemed pretty engaged when he was here.

where do you have him?


eh wasn't a fan of his entrance, warmed up to him a little as he posted but he's a solid null for me currently

lol wasn't he the one who admitted to carrying his scum team before? xP

ya but who hasn't done that? i did it once and almost did it twice (shoutout to the homies bunnies and epishade, that was a good game). i'm more zeroed in on where he said he has less trouble getting up to play as town than as mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 07:03 GMT
#1007
On March 19 2015 15:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 15:54 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:51 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:49 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 15:46 rsoultin wrote:
eden senpai, focus

super...i'm not scumming him but the townread is because?

he seems like he cares

i admit i'm probably sleeping on his scum game, but my experience with it in imperial was... less than stellar. i'm not convinced superbia is a player who can get motivated to play scum very easily given his comments in this game, and he seemed pretty engaged when he was here.

where do you have him?


eh wasn't a fan of his entrance, warmed up to him a little as he posted but he's a solid null for me currently

lol wasn't he the one who admitted to carrying his scum team before? xP

ya but who hasn't done that? i did it once and almost did it twice (shoutout to the homies bunnies and epishade, that was a good game). i'm more zeroed in on where he said he has less trouble getting up to play as town than as mafia


mmm i dunnae...i think my problem was i liked where art was at lol and many of super's comments i simply didn't agree with at the beginning of the game

lol >> we'll see. i'm not calling him scum, just not comfortable calling him town on something that flimsy

that's fair. i'm not married to superbia being town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 07:04 GMT
#1008
ugh i'm flagging at 2. getting old

goodnight thread

+ Show Spoiler +
goodnight rso
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 07:15 GMT
#1011
On March 19 2015 16:07 rsoultin wrote:
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gnite eden ^^ tch i'm older than you. should be beaten for that xP

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wait, have we talked about this? this sounds familiar but i don't remember~
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:00 GMT
#1432
On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now.


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?

+ Show Spoiler +
what's your mbti type?


i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:36 GMT
#1456
On March 20 2015 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:14 ExO_ wrote:
Just woke up. I've skimmed the thread. And afterwards I was left with a huge question:

Where did Eden run off to?


And then I checked his filter and saw this:

On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now.


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?

+ Show Spoiler +
what's your mbti type?


i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry


His posts threw out (strong) town reads like they were nothing. I didn't like his scum reads. And now he's just going to check out? What is this, get a large filter day 1 and then bow out while everyone else is arguing?

It looks like scum to me. I was hesitant at first, but just deciding you've said enough for day 1 and aren't going to participate for the rest of the day is ridiculous.

##Vote: Eden

This is why I hate people playing 2 games at the same time. I don't know if it's alignment indicative for Eden.

I can't talk about it but suffice to say I signed up last-minute cuz I thought the game was going to end soon and then I found out it wasn't yesterday and now I found out it really wasn't.

I'm really not liking ExO though. This is a little ridiculous and looks like somebody reaching for a reason to vote. Notice how he talks himself into it during the post? Even a cursory glance at the first page of the forum would have validated my story. And his interpretation of my post is hella uncharitable. I said I would probably be useless. I didn't say I wasn't going to participate or that I wouldn't try not to be.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: ExO_
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:38 GMT
#1459
On March 20 2015 04:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now.


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?

+ Show Spoiler +
what's your mbti type?


i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry


+ Show Spoiler +
lol can you guess?

+ Show Spoiler +
probably not. lol
blind shot, xNTx. couldn't guess betwee J or P to save my life and I'm not sure if your extravertedness online transfers to RL
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:39 GMT
#1461
Artanis why aren't you lynching ExO?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:41 GMT
#1464
On March 20 2015 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:39 Eden1892 wrote:
Artanis why aren't you lynching ExO?

Because I'm not mafia, I don't want to lynch town.

Why is he town ._.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:42 GMT
#1465
On March 20 2015 04:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Eden you should check ExO's filter from Newbie LX he playing very similar to that game

ugh i barely have time for this game let alone researching another one. cliffs bro?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:45 GMT
#1471
On March 19 2015 16:40 ExO_ wrote:
Read the filter of SL, and the case against him seemed very silly to me. It's a huge stretch to me that he got caught in a lie about emoticons, and the reason he lied was because he slipped as mafia in some way. Damdred/Rsoultin hopping onto that seemed poor to me.

However Eden is who really stuck out to me from that whole ordeal. And his filter is huge. Normally largest filter = town, or at least that's my initial thought. But as I read through it, he's giving out town reads on a whim it seems like, a considerable number of them. And his scum reads seem like just throwing shit out there to see what sticks. I didn't like what I see. But again, he is the largest poster and is at least to some degree driving discussion.


This, Artie? Doesn't seem especially townie. It's not scummy but it's not a reason to read him town.

What do you mean by "reasonable for him"?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:46 GMT
#1473
On March 20 2015 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:38 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:05 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now.


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?

+ Show Spoiler +
what's your mbti type?


i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry


+ Show Spoiler +
lol can you guess?

+ Show Spoiler +
probably not. lol
blind shot, xNTx. couldn't guess betwee J or P to save my life and I'm not sure if your extravertedness online transfers to RL


+ Show Spoiler +
Not bad? INTJ lol...talkative once i get to know people but rarely before


LS is right on ExO though...part of this argument i've seen from him before when he was town xP I don't think it's a good argument but i wouldn't say it makes him scum

meh i've got a nasty headache...will be around later

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i wanted to say intx! the linguistics thing made me think so
i think i am entp. i am a socionics ENTp and i think that transfers over correctly


ok FINE i GUESS he can be town. only if rso says so.

but i really don't see why still
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:48 GMT
#1476
oh that.

meh
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:02 GMT
#1486
On March 20 2015 04:50 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:36 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:14 ExO_ wrote:
Just woke up. I've skimmed the thread. And afterwards I was left with a huge question:

Where did Eden run off to?


And then I checked his filter and saw this:

On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now.


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?

+ Show Spoiler +
what's your mbti type?


i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry


His posts threw out (strong) town reads like they were nothing. I didn't like his scum reads. And now he's just going to check out? What is this, get a large filter day 1 and then bow out while everyone else is arguing?

It looks like scum to me. I was hesitant at first, but just deciding you've said enough for day 1 and aren't going to participate for the rest of the day is ridiculous.

##Vote: Eden

This is why I hate people playing 2 games at the same time. I don't know if it's alignment indicative for Eden.

I can't talk about it but suffice to say I signed up last-minute cuz I thought the game was going to end soon and then I found out it wasn't yesterday and now I found out it really wasn't.

I'm really not liking ExO though. This is a little ridiculous and looks like somebody reaching for a reason to vote. Notice how he talks himself into it during the post? Even a cursory glance at the first page of the forum would have validated my story. And his interpretation of my post is hella uncharitable. I said I would probably be useless. I didn't say I wasn't going to participate or that I wouldn't try not to be.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: ExO_


If anything this proves you are reading and here. And call me selfish but I care more about players participating in this game than in other games.

I do think it's a little suspicious how quickly you came back the second you were accused (I guess the other game isn't as interesting as you thought? However I'm aware that I have a tendency to tunnel when I get a read, sometimes very stupidly. So Eden help me out. Other than that OMGUS read on me, who do you think is scum right now?

It isn't OMGUS, if you would have actually read my filter instead of pretending to when you voted me you'd have seen I had you in my lynch pile from last night. You coming in here and making up a terrible reason to vote me didn't help.

I haven't caught up on this thread yet at all, there's still like 15 pgs I need to read. If sicklucker hasn't done anything useful since last night he's mafia though.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:21 GMT
#1491
On March 20 2015 05:17 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 05:02 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:50 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:36 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:14 ExO_ wrote:
Just woke up. I've skimmed the thread. And afterwards I was left with a huge question:

Where did Eden run off to?


And then I checked his filter and saw this:

On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now.


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?

+ Show Spoiler +
what's your mbti type?


i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry


His posts threw out (strong) town reads like they were nothing. I didn't like his scum reads. And now he's just going to check out? What is this, get a large filter day 1 and then bow out while everyone else is arguing?

It looks like scum to me. I was hesitant at first, but just deciding you've said enough for day 1 and aren't going to participate for the rest of the day is ridiculous.

##Vote: Eden

This is why I hate people playing 2 games at the same time. I don't know if it's alignment indicative for Eden.

I can't talk about it but suffice to say I signed up last-minute cuz I thought the game was going to end soon and then I found out it wasn't yesterday and now I found out it really wasn't.

I'm really not liking ExO though. This is a little ridiculous and looks like somebody reaching for a reason to vote. Notice how he talks himself into it during the post? Even a cursory glance at the first page of the forum would have validated my story. And his interpretation of my post is hella uncharitable. I said I would probably be useless. I didn't say I wasn't going to participate or that I wouldn't try not to be.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: ExO_


If anything this proves you are reading and here. And call me selfish but I care more about players participating in this game than in other games.

I do think it's a little suspicious how quickly you came back the second you were accused (I guess the other game isn't as interesting as you thought? However I'm aware that I have a tendency to tunnel when I get a read, sometimes very stupidly. So Eden help me out. Other than that OMGUS read on me, who do you think is scum right now?

It isn't OMGUS, if you would have actually read my filter instead of pretending to when you voted me you'd have seen I had you in my lynch pile from last night. You coming in here and making up a terrible reason to vote me didn't help.

I haven't caught up on this thread yet at all, there's still like 15 pgs I need to read. If sicklucker hasn't done anything useful since last night he's mafia though.


You literally voted me right after I voted you. That's an OMGUS. It's like the definition of an OMGUS. And really you have no scum reads to throw out there, except sick lucker, the train from yesterday? You're clearly keeping up with the thread and have had no problem throwing out town calls, but nobody else but sick lucker looks scummy to you?

Yeah okay /s

I was really on the fence about keeping my vote on you or not. But this post more than anything helps me make that decision, at least for now.

How the fuck is it OMGUS if I scumread you first???

I'm not keeping up with the thread. I said that. I've got more than a dozen pages left to read. Do you even read before you post?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:21 GMT
#1492
On March 20 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jesus that ExO_ guy is so town.

How? This guy is making shit up
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:22 GMT
#1493
Like I've had 4 townreads at best the whole game and only 1-2 scumreads. Nothing has changed. I am telling him outright that I haven't caught up yet. My suspects are the same people I suspected last night because of this. Somehow he decides I'm making things up about not being caught up and that I just don't have other suspects because ??? so I'm mafia?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:23 GMT
#1494
And then he shits on my sicklucker read because it was yesterday's wagon even though there's like 1 person voting sl right now. What the fuck is even his point?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:24 GMT
#1497
All apparently while missing that I STARTED THE SL TRAIN IN THE FIRST PLACE

This guy can't be this fucking terrible. Lynch with fire.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:26 GMT
#1499
W.T.F.

THE READ ON SL BEING MAFIA WAS MINE BEFORE IT WAS HOLYFLARE'S
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:26 GMT
#1500
Fuck this shit
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:31 GMT
#1508
On March 20 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
except you never give any real reasons for your vote on SL which makes the read shit by default.

YES I DID ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:32 GMT
#1512
On March 19 2015 09:09 Eden1892 wrote:
the more holyflare posts the less i want to lynch slam

i'm gonna lynch sicklucker instead

unvote vote sl

On March 19 2015 09:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:02 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
altho shes annoying thats my town read on her


...

okay, sicklucker, that's part of eden's read on me, for one, and secondly it is easily replicated xP i did it through titantic and slacked off after eden died >>

i don't for a second believe that you actually read me this way since you've never mentioned it before -_-


Then why would I say it? I say 90% truths when im mafia even


Precisely because you know it will ring true with Eden since it's his way of reading me to begin with xP

nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town

get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads


i thought he was talking about the emoticons?

was it the emoticons, SL, or me being annoying? cause if it was me being annoying i misunderstood and that sounds exactly like you lol ><


It was you being annoying


so i've got a problem here

you're saying you don't know eden's read on me, that you haven't read those games

but you specifically asked him about emoticons when you asked about his read

you're lying to us sicklucker :/ over something that is not at all important


That emocon was thing was brought up in another game you were not in if my memory serves me correctly. Eden you remember this?

what's weird is that you do

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:01 sicklucker wrote:
crazy theory but maybe we developed the same read from playing with you? because it is or was a correct read? I was not in or followed games where you and eden played


On March 19 2015 09:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
I heard about it somewhere but I never saw the context or the game like when I brought it up I was asking a question . That emocon thing? Because I vaguely heard it (from you) but I dont know anything about it. Once again you guys take the smallest qeustion and turn it into something so annoying.

I dont see what your angle is here this is not something I would lie about as either alignment. Its not alignment indignitive,


also we 100% lynch this guy because he was in horn and read the game so knows everything about what they are saying


Literally right here in my filter (and then a little after for HF). Anyone claiming otherwise isn't reading
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:33 GMT
#1514
On March 20 2015 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Eden chill out bro no need to be extremely mad already this early o.o

Yes there is, no matter what game I join there's always stupid fucking idiots that scumread me for no reason and ignore my awesome reads
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:34 GMT
#1515
I haven't even jumped around a lot this game which has been my usual bane. But still these dumbass trash players are acting like I haven't made awesome reads so far
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:35 GMT
#1516
On March 20 2015 05:27 sicklucker wrote:
Hey guys happy to see its not a small game just got home see you when I read like 50 pages

If this guy doesn't deliver by the end of the night (it's 3:30 PM here) he is mafia. 100%.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:37 GMT
#1518
unvote vote sl

this exo dude is really bad but if rso says he's town i don't care. i will just ignore everything he says until i happen to see something that isn't bad.

sl is definitely mafia until he does something though
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:38 GMT
#1520
Also how many fucking games do I have to be 1000000000% right on rsoultin immediately before people get with the picture and townread her by default.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:41 GMT
#1523
On March 20 2015 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 05:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:09 Eden1892 wrote:
the more holyflare posts the less i want to lynch slam

i'm gonna lynch sicklucker instead

unvote vote sl

On March 19 2015 09:17 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:02 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
[quote]

Then why would I say it? I say 90% truths when im mafia even


Precisely because you know it will ring true with Eden since it's his way of reading me to begin with xP

nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town

get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads


i thought he was talking about the emoticons?

was it the emoticons, SL, or me being annoying? cause if it was me being annoying i misunderstood and that sounds exactly like you lol ><


It was you being annoying


so i've got a problem here

you're saying you don't know eden's read on me, that you haven't read those games

but you specifically asked him about emoticons when you asked about his read

you're lying to us sicklucker :/ over something that is not at all important


That emocon was thing was brought up in another game you were not in if my memory serves me correctly. Eden you remember this?

what's weird is that you do

On March 19 2015 09:01 sicklucker wrote:
crazy theory but maybe we developed the same read from playing with you? because it is or was a correct read? I was not in or followed games where you and eden played


On March 19 2015 09:21 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
I heard about it somewhere but I never saw the context or the game like when I brought it up I was asking a question . That emocon thing? Because I vaguely heard it (from you) but I dont know anything about it. Once again you guys take the smallest qeustion and turn it into something so annoying.

I dont see what your angle is here this is not something I would lie about as either alignment. Its not alignment indignitive,


also we 100% lynch this guy because he was in horn and read the game so knows everything about what they are saying


Literally right here in my filter (and then a little after for HF). Anyone claiming otherwise isn't reading

yeah so this is about the lying thingy that does not make sense.

How doesn't it make sense? He fronted like he wasn't in the games we were talking about and made up a wrong heuristic to townread rsoultin because I correctly townread her. Then he hasn't done shit since. Town sicklucker is all over the place and involved in the game. This sicklucker hasn't been so far. I give him the night to prove himself but if he goes to bed tonight without having been the sicklucker I know and love from other games he is scum.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:42 GMT
#1525
On March 20 2015 05:39 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 05:33 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Eden chill out bro no need to be extremely mad already this early o.o

Yes there is, no matter what game I join there's always stupid fucking idiots that scumread me for no reason and ignore my awesome reads


"awesome reads"

None of which you seem willing to give. Because I can't imagine you would classify the very loose shitty reads you gave early on as awesome.

You're still on SickLucker. The reasons you gave early were trash, so I'd like to hear you reiterate your case. Or even better give out some other reads With decent reasoning to back them up.

why reiterate anything when you obviously haven't read in the first place?

if you read my filter my reads are right fucking there in a convenient list for everyone
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:44 GMT
#1529
On March 19 2015 15:16 Eden1892 wrote:
idk why i checked back in cuz im not actually gonna try right now

here's a reads list without explanations to digest

confirmed town: rsoultin
don't lynch: damdred, trfel, ff, superbia
probs don't lynch: slam
minor heebie-jeebies: holyflare, ve
lynch pile: sicklucker, exo

all others null

literally it's right here. if you claim i haven't given reads you are wrong
if you claim i haven't given reads while claiming to have read my filter, you are wrong and also bad

i've explained basically all of these at varying points in my filter. i will entertain questions about them if you claim not to have read my filter or admit you're bad and did read my filter but didn't see the explanations already
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#1530
On March 20 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 05:41 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:09 Eden1892 wrote:
the more holyflare posts the less i want to lynch slam

i'm gonna lynch sicklucker instead

unvote vote sl

On March 19 2015 09:17 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:02 Eden1892 wrote:
[quote]
nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town

get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads


i thought he was talking about the emoticons?

was it the emoticons, SL, or me being annoying? cause if it was me being annoying i misunderstood and that sounds exactly like you lol ><


It was you being annoying


so i've got a problem here

you're saying you don't know eden's read on me, that you haven't read those games

but you specifically asked him about emoticons when you asked about his read

you're lying to us sicklucker :/ over something that is not at all important


That emocon was thing was brought up in another game you were not in if my memory serves me correctly. Eden you remember this?

what's weird is that you do

On March 19 2015 09:01 sicklucker wrote:
crazy theory but maybe we developed the same read from playing with you? because it is or was a correct read? I was not in or followed games where you and eden played


On March 19 2015 09:21 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
I heard about it somewhere but I never saw the context or the game like when I brought it up I was asking a question . That emocon thing? Because I vaguely heard it (from you) but I dont know anything about it. Once again you guys take the smallest qeustion and turn it into something so annoying.

I dont see what your angle is here this is not something I would lie about as either alignment. Its not alignment indignitive,


also we 100% lynch this guy because he was in horn and read the game so knows everything about what they are saying


Literally right here in my filter (and then a little after for HF). Anyone claiming otherwise isn't reading

yeah so this is about the lying thingy that does not make sense.

How doesn't it make sense? He fronted like he wasn't in the games we were talking about and made up a wrong heuristic to townread rsoultin because I correctly townread her. Then he hasn't done shit since. Town sicklucker is all over the place and involved in the game. This sicklucker hasn't been so far. I give him the night to prove himself but if he goes to bed tonight without having been the sicklucker I know and love from other games he is scum.

this makes sense yes, this is not however why you originally voted for him which is what ExO was talking about.

true, I originally voted him for the contradiction, not the lack of doing anything

but exo is giving me completely unwarranted shit for still finding sl suspicious, when the bolded part is now true
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 20:50 GMT
#1534
On March 20 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 05:42 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:39 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:33 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Eden chill out bro no need to be extremely mad already this early o.o

Yes there is, no matter what game I join there's always stupid fucking idiots that scumread me for no reason and ignore my awesome reads


"awesome reads"

None of which you seem willing to give. Because I can't imagine you would classify the very loose shitty reads you gave early on as awesome.

You're still on SickLucker. The reasons you gave early were trash, so I'd like to hear you reiterate your case. Or even better give out some other reads With decent reasoning to back them up.

why reiterate anything when you obviously haven't read in the first place?

if you read my filter my reads are right fucking there in a convenient list for everyone


I have read your filter. The reasoning on sick lucker is poor. There aren't any other great scum reads. A lot of strong town reads thrown out though.

Plus, there's been a ton of pages since you've given out any new reads. Has nobody else stuck out in your eyes, so much so that you're going to tunnel that really really bad SL read from the start? Do you really see no scum?

Can you really offer nothing? Are you going to just throw a tantrum and whine and cry until this passes?

ya keep antagonizing me when i'm already obviously super-pissed, that's going to make me give answers
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:00 GMT
#1541
On March 20 2015 05:54 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 05:50 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:42 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:39 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:33 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Eden chill out bro no need to be extremely mad already this early o.o

Yes there is, no matter what game I join there's always stupid fucking idiots that scumread me for no reason and ignore my awesome reads


"awesome reads"

None of which you seem willing to give. Because I can't imagine you would classify the very loose shitty reads you gave early on as awesome.

You're still on SickLucker. The reasons you gave early were trash, so I'd like to hear you reiterate your case. Or even better give out some other reads With decent reasoning to back them up.

why reiterate anything when you obviously haven't read in the first place?

if you read my filter my reads are right fucking there in a convenient list for everyone


I have read your filter. The reasoning on sick lucker is poor. There aren't any other great scum reads. A lot of strong town reads thrown out though.

Plus, there's been a ton of pages since you've given out any new reads. Has nobody else stuck out in your eyes, so much so that you're going to tunnel that really really bad SL read from the start? Do you really see no scum?

Can you really offer nothing? Are you going to just throw a tantrum and whine and cry until this passes?

ya keep antagonizing me when i'm already obviously super-pissed, that's going to make me give answers


You don't seem like you're going to offer any new information, no matter how much I press you for it. I'll ask again, feel free to ignore it if you can't come up with an answer:

Has nobody else stuck out in your eyes, so much so that you're going to tunnel that really really bad SL read from the start? Do you really see no scum?

i'll offer it up when i have it and when i feel like giving it to you

i'm not sure what part of I HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP YET hasn't gotten through yet, but I HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP YET, so the answer is no, I don't have other reads yet.

artanis made a good point about ls delurking, and i had an issue with the way ls mentioned slam in his intro before. but it's not good enough to do anything with yet i think
the in-fighting between artie, toad and ve doesn't interest me one bit and i haven't read it since i've been in-thread. i get vague mafia vibes from artanis (despite his point) but again it's not enough to do with.

there's STILL literally nothing wrong with my read on sl. i stand by it and if you think it's bad then you're bad. simple as that

i think i stand by my townreads without further reading. definitely stand by my rso read. probs stand by my ff read, although his big case on ls was a little weird to me cuz i'm not used to him making big cases. unless superbia or damdred dropped off the planet since last night they're still ok in my book.

i might have updates whenever i get around to rereading but quite frankly i'm hella pissed off at the game of mafia rn, like "debated posting my role pm" level pissed off, so you're gonna have to quit whining about my not catching up and deal with it for now, cuz i'm not in the mood to catch up right now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:01 GMT
#1542
ironically, as i type the above, sicklucker actually looks ok
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:09 GMT
#1548
On March 20 2015 06:03 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 06:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:54 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:50 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:42 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:39 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:33 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Eden chill out bro no need to be extremely mad already this early o.o

Yes there is, no matter what game I join there's always stupid fucking idiots that scumread me for no reason and ignore my awesome reads


"awesome reads"

None of which you seem willing to give. Because I can't imagine you would classify the very loose shitty reads you gave early on as awesome.

You're still on SickLucker. The reasons you gave early were trash, so I'd like to hear you reiterate your case. Or even better give out some other reads With decent reasoning to back them up.

why reiterate anything when you obviously haven't read in the first place?

if you read my filter my reads are right fucking there in a convenient list for everyone


I have read your filter. The reasoning on sick lucker is poor. There aren't any other great scum reads. A lot of strong town reads thrown out though.

Plus, there's been a ton of pages since you've given out any new reads. Has nobody else stuck out in your eyes, so much so that you're going to tunnel that really really bad SL read from the start? Do you really see no scum?

Can you really offer nothing? Are you going to just throw a tantrum and whine and cry until this passes?

ya keep antagonizing me when i'm already obviously super-pissed, that's going to make me give answers


You don't seem like you're going to offer any new information, no matter how much I press you for it. I'll ask again, feel free to ignore it if you can't come up with an answer:

Has nobody else stuck out in your eyes, so much so that you're going to tunnel that really really bad SL read from the start? Do you really see no scum?

i'll offer it up when i have it and when i feel like giving it to you

i'm not sure what part of I HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP YET hasn't gotten through yet, but I HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP YET, so the answer is no, I don't have other reads yet.

artanis made a good point about ls delurking, and i had an issue with the way ls mentioned slam in his intro before. but it's not good enough to do anything with yet i think
the in-fighting between artie, toad and ve doesn't interest me one bit and i haven't read it since i've been in-thread. i get vague mafia vibes from artanis (despite his point) but again it's not enough to do with.

there's STILL literally nothing wrong with my read on sl. i stand by it and if you think it's bad then you're bad. simple as that

i think i stand by my townreads without further reading. definitely stand by my rso read. probs stand by my ff read, although his big case on ls was a little weird to me cuz i'm not used to him making big cases. unless superbia or damdred dropped off the planet since last night they're still ok in my book.

i might have updates whenever i get around to rereading but quite frankly i'm hella pissed off at the game of mafia rn, like "debated posting my role pm" level pissed off, so you're gonna have to quit whining about my not catching up and deal with it for now, cuz i'm not in the mood to catch up right now


Actually I've found your responses and reaction to pressure to be most revealing, and quite frankly a bit childish. Keep in mind this is a game, and threatening to reveal your role PM is bad sportsmanship and pathetic.

not this game, the other one
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:10 GMT
#1550
good to know that all you can do when i actually have something to say is police my behavior instead of saying anything of substance though
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:13 GMT
#1554
so yeah exo clearly just asking things to ask them. i will begrudgingly not try to get him lynched for it.

i looked at holyflare's filter for 5s and if he's mafia idk what to do. he had the same bad vibe i did about artanis posting just to be present. i could see ray being mafia but it is entirely oot reasoning and bad and i am trying my best not to engage in it
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:15 GMT
#1556
so hf can move from heebie-jeebies to town.

sl i feel better about.

i should prolly just lynch artanis for my bad vibes about him

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Artanis[Xp]


artanis what have you done this game that shows me you're really trying to solve things instead of just making surface-level observations about things that are happening while you're in the thread? i feel like your filter has a lot of the latter and not much of the former
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:15 GMT
#1557
On March 20 2015 06:14 sicklucker wrote:
Free townread for rayn for making sense and pointing out im telling the truth when all people want is to point out my"lies"

this is not a good reason to townread ray imo
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:20 GMT
#1560
On March 20 2015 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 06:15 Eden1892 wrote:
so hf can move from heebie-jeebies to town.

sl i feel better about.

i should prolly just lynch artanis for my bad vibes about him

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Artanis[Xp]


artanis what have you done this game that shows me you're really trying to solve things instead of just making surface-level observations about things that are happening while you're in the thread? i feel like your filter has a lot of the latter and not much of the former

Why are you expecting something of me that I never do as town? I make good observations. I don't "solve things". I rarely find mafia and am rarely certain on suspects.

okay, what are some good observations you've made this game, and what have you done with them?

i can think of a couple of the former, but to the latter there's never an answer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:20 GMT
#1562
On March 20 2015 06:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay since no one is really asking me questions atm I finding it odd that sicklucker is giving a free townread to rayn when you shouldn't give free townreads do you guys finding that odd?

no

it's not the best thing sicklucker could be doing but it's not odd for him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:21 GMT
#1564
On March 20 2015 06:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yes I personally think LS's play this game deviates from his normal town play

starting to agree
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:25 GMT
#1571
nah i'll pass artanis

i'm gonna go do something else for a while and then hit the reset button on this game (except on my rsoultin read)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:25 GMT
#1572
On March 20 2015 06:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 06:23 Damdred wrote:
People should leave Eden alone so much town so wow

Not all of us have perfect information, bro

ok and my fecalfeast townread. that one survives the reset
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 21:28 GMT
#1577
On March 20 2015 06:27 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 06:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 20 2015 06:23 Damdred wrote:
People should leave Eden alone so much town so wow

Not all of us have perfect information, bro


Nope it's the anger over small things that make him town.

no.

last post before break.

do not enable this. i am not happy that i get mad like this. do not reward this ever. friends don't let friends rage
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 23:12 GMT
#1666
In hitting the reset button I've decided not to keep a single read I made all game. Instead I'm reading from the start and just making note of things that matter to me.

Like this:
On March 19 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
:/

so i have a confession to make

>>

<<

i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops-

and have never watched this movie

-gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur-

rsoultin is town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 23:40 GMT
#1683
I'm through p21. Only exception is that I read ahead in Toad's filter to process some of the Toad/Palmar argument.

Town: rsoultin, Alakaslam, Toadesstern, Damdred
Null: All others who've posted

rsoultin is town.

Alakaslam sounded pretty earnest in his argument with Holyflare. "He's a little too serious too early" doesn't really resonate with me especially when Slam repeatedly insists he intends to break that tell for him this game. In particular his posts on p18-19 about "finding difficult scum" and "fallacy clean" caught my attention.

Toadesstern fell into the trap I fell into with Hammertime, which is to take Palmar seriously early in the game. His reaction is exactly like mine was a couple of times in that game. And he immediately questioned Artanis pretty pointedly on something when he saw it, really looked like he was reading and trying.

Damdred said everything I was thinking when I was rereading things. Reads Slam as town in particular and highlights the specific posts I had in my notes. Town.

Artie seemed a little more townish than the rest for his question to Slam about scumreading HF for using correct meta. It's not something he can't do as mafia though.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 00:03 GMT
#1695
On March 20 2015 08:46 Breshke wrote:
Eden I need your opinion on the slam/HF argument thing. It felt like everyone was kind of staying away from it at the time like not interfering. There was people in the thread talking about other things but no one really got super involved with HF and slam. Whereas when someone calls out SL a bunch of people jump onto it.

This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people.

I'm on pg 44 and catching up fast i slept for like 12 hours so feel elss shit should be around more today

I kinda go the other way, a lot of people agreed with HF pretty fast about Slam being too serious. I don't know just from that whether Holyflare is town but I do think Alakaslam's behavior during it was pretty townie.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 00:18 GMT
#1708
On March 20 2015 09:09 Trfel wrote:
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On March 20 2015 09:03 Breshke wrote:
On March 20 2015 08:47 Trfel wrote:
Eden and Breshke, let's talk about stuff that happened 40 pages ago together! XD


I actually have a question for you.

So you were talking with toad about his palmar scum read and you were basically along the lines of you don't really see it as palmar being scummy.

I'd actually agree with toad that it is. So palmar reads toad as scum for reasons and cbf's explaining them so jsut spams kill toad. Toad gets lynched and is town. I know that you trefel are very self conscious when you are wrong even if your case is really good and you try to change things so you don't make the same mistakes.

Why then do you think that palmar isn't doing that and seemingly ignores past mistakes. Obviously you arn't the same person but would you not think that it would cross palmars mind that oh I read toad as scum for doing this and he was town. Toad is doing these things again maybe this isn't a reason to call him scum.
I don't think that the argument between Palmar and Toadesstern says much about Palmar's alignment, but I do think it suggests that Toadesstern is town. As for it not making Palmar scum, Palmar's played really lazily for many games lately (Linux, Down Under 2, etc). Palmar also really likes to use tonereads. I can understand Palmar seeing Toadesstern's opening, and remembering it being different from the heavily formatted, fancy, and pristine opening that he used in Hammertime Mafia, and saying that Toadesstern is scum for it. I wouldn't actually expect Palmar to check Toadesstern's other games here (which clearly show that Toadesstern's opening post isn't alignment indicative). And if Palmar only knows Toadesstern's play in Hammertime Mafia and this game, his scumread of Toadesstern wasn't that horrible of a play (I would still disagree, but not that horrible).

I guess the difference is probably that I have different expectations for Palmar than you and Toadesstern do.

A+

Have a townread
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 00:38 GMT
#1715
On March 20 2015 09:27 Breshke wrote:
Also eden were you aware that the miller role was yondu?

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On March 19 2015 13:13 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:05 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 13:01 Eden1892 wrote:
good lord i'm at 5pg filter already

i'm not talking for the rest of the night

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except in spoilers to rsoultin
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this will probably still blow up my filter...
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oh well


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lol you realize we're going to make reading our filters a bitch to the rest of the players this way, right? xP that said, I'm comfortable giving you a day 1 town pass at this point congrats

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my filters are always a bitch to the rest of the players
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! mafia is super fucked now that we 100% on the same page
what movie did you go see?


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Was watching Guardians so references don't go over my head lol xP they prolly still will i think i've already forgotten half the movie o.0

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ohhh, duh. lol. ya it seems pretty silly but i haven't actually watched it. i just wikipedia'd some references so i could make a funny miller fakeclaim. could be a fun movie to watch tho i guess
soooo i kinda think slam is town now. thoughts?


I don't understand why you say you wikipedia'd references when you most likely just read it from the OP

I had to look up the Ravagers reference
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 00:48 GMT
#1719
I'm thru p30 now but I started remembering some of my reads from before the reset so I'm doubtful this is going to mean much else. Once you start remembering the reads you had confirmation bias makes it hard to get a clear view.

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rsoultin town

Two early arguments that I really don't care to read but I'm dragging myself through anyway:
- Holyflare/Alakaslam
- Palmar/Toadesstern

HF/Slam I quickly got bored of. I tended to agree with HF that it was weird that Slam reacted as defensively as he did and was skeptical of HF's obvious joke, but I'm not sure it really means anything. As I read further though, Slam seems pretty earnest with his "finding difficult scum" and "fallacy clean" posts on p18-19. Slam might lean town for that.

Toad/Palmar didn't really seem like it went anywhere. Toad seemed pretty townie/trying early, I got where he was coming from with Palmar (although I think he came to pretty much the exactly wrong conclusion; I did the same thing with Palmar in Hammertime lol) and he immediately started questioning Artanis pretty pointedly about something. Toad is probably town. Palmar idk yet.

Damdred pointed out the "finding difficult scum" post almost immediately so that's good news. Damdred can be a little townie for that. (LOL I even found my own previous post noting he should be town for that. Guess he's in town pile.)

Artanis asked a good question to Slam about why Slam scumreads HF for using accurate meta.

===P21 BREAK===

sicklucker might be mafia but it's not for what I initially said. I am agreeing now that the "slip"/"lie" thing isn't very strong. But sicklucker seems like a bit of an ass early, calling rsoultin annoying more than once and saying things like "I dont acualy know what your shitty read is." The thing is that sicklucker doesn't say rude things like that until he gets confident in his picture of the game state. You'll notice it in Imperial if you bother to read there (I don't blame you if you don't). When he's town he started off not being very confident in things and questioning people, gradually starting to get comfortable with his picture of the game as he got more information. THAT's when you started seeing the cockiness come out. C.f. when he's mafia he's usually cocky almost all the time. I feel like it's fake cockiness when he's mafia because he tries to mirror his town behavior.

Also shoutout to myself for calling it out immediately even though I didn't realize why I was calling it out at the time. #wow #tier1instinct #putthatboiontharank

Lol I missed ray voting Slam with no explanation. Legit thought it was someone else who was already posting. ray why did you vote Slam?

ExO_... ExO_ is town. Ugh. Moving on.


I'm also gonna add the reads I remember to the list.

Current reads:
rsoultin
Damdred, ExO_

Toadesstern, Alakaslam, Trfel, Superbia, Fecalfeast

Artanis[Xp], Holyflare, Palmar
raynpelikoneet, Vivax, LightningStrike, Onegu, Breshke, VisceraEyes
sicklucker

Guide:
Green, bold, underlined - confirmed town.
Green, bold - confident town. Would not lynch today.
Green - Had reasons to think they might be town more than null. Not confident in it yet. Still would likely not lynch today.
Bold - Have been saying things but I have them null. If they're still here when I catch up they're probably mafia, just judging by the list of people in there.
Normal - Haven't said things I can remember in the parts I've reread. Will keep an eye out for them as I continue.
Red - Had reasons to think they might be mafia more than null. Not confident in it. Wouldn't mind lynching today.
Red, bold - confident mafia. Trying to lynch today.
Red, bold, underlined - confirmed mafia.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 00:49 GMT
#1720
herp I forgot Bill Murray. Add that boy to the green list
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 00:51 GMT
#1723
Filter dove Breshke. His read on sicklucker is pretty cool and I might be able to buy it, but his activity level is low and he hasn't been digging otherwise. He probably goes in the red pile for now.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 00:58 GMT
#1726
Vivax seems pretty town so far. I might just be dazzled by the use of "logorrheic" though. But I liked his questioning of Superbia.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:00 GMT
#1728
On March 19 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:
Anyway I haven't read the thread and my wife is going back to Thailand for a month in the morning.

Plz for the love of God everyone vote Eden or rsoultin. This spoiler shit needs to stop and then never happen again in future games
.

Groot out.

mad
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:00 GMT
#1729
Yah Onegu is a big null. Dunno why I even bothered reading his filter once I saw it was 1pg long
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:04 GMT
#1734
ray looks clearly town, now I guess I have to check Damdred's filter after I went to sleep to see if it got worse / why ray is scumreading him.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:10 GMT
#1738
I think I reached my reading limit. And I didn't even read all of the posts from this morning
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:13 GMT
#1741
Yeah clearly was a stretch. But the digging with SL about post count and the comment he made about HF and Artanis scumreading Toad for opposite reasons and then not talking about it seemed townie I guess

I dunno I can't actually justify it so maybe it's bad
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:15 GMT
#1743
On March 20 2015 10:11 Breshke wrote:
Eden why do you think exo is town now.

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On March 19 2015 16:40 ExO_ wrote:
Read the filter of SL, and the case against him seemed very silly to me. It's a huge stretch to me that he got caught in a lie about emoticons, and the reason he lied was because he slipped as mafia in some way. Damdred/Rsoultin hopping onto that seemed poor to me.

However Eden is who really stuck out to me from that whole ordeal. And his filter is huge. Normally largest filter = town, or at least that's my initial thought. But as I read through it, he's giving out town reads on a whim it seems like, a considerable number of them. And his scum reads seem like just throwing shit out there to see what sticks. I didn't like what I see. But again, he is the largest poster and is at least to some degree driving discussion.



Says damdred and rsoultin look poor but never goes back to them.

Commits his entire postings to being about you even though he expressed doubts on damdred's and rsoultins alignment. Rso for one has been town read by a majority of people so if his opinion differs on this why not explain it to the group. This also reminds me of me as scum i get comfortable with a scum read and just constantly post questions and attack that person.

rso said so basically. And he DOES look like he's digging and trying early in his filter (mainly in those first 30 pgs I read). I would love it if the guy who was a dick to me earlier was mafia tho.

It is hella weird that after going after me like he did, he just drops off the planet as soon as I give him some actual info. Maybe he is mafia. I am trying not to get tunneled on him though because he was hella fuckin rude earlier and it'd be easy for me to want to lynch him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:17 GMT
#1744
On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.

Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?

SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.

So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum.

Honestly out of this I'd take Damdred as town. You have your scum read ray scumreading Damdred and you have SL (who has a decent shot at being mafia) also scumreading Damdred
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:36 GMT
#1754
Yeah I'm not getting anything out of reading anymore. Plus LSU is on. My last reads list with some explanations (some better than others), then I'm taking a break.

TOWN

rsoultin. My rsoulread game is too strong.
Damdred. Whenever I would go back and reread things with a clearer head I'd find Damdred saying my reactions to them as I read. He's probably town for that.
Trfel. He explains himself well, looks genuine, seems to be digging.
Alakaslam. Early behavior with Holyflare was genuine.
ExO_. Begrudgingly. rso says so, and he did seem like he was trying to find answers. Note the coverage of Trfel's opening in particular for this.
Superbia. Again I might be sleeping on his scum game but the effort he's put in so far strikes me more as town Superbia. I don't really see where he was "too angry" as a couple players put it.
Toadesstern. His reaction to Palmar early was 100% my reaction to Palmar doing a similar thing in another game when I was town. If people really need to see this it's the whole "Palmar, why aren't you learning from past mistakes?" thing, I think I had a moment like that in Hammertime but I don't recall for sure.
Bill Murray. Decent observations on LightningStrike that I liked.

NULL
Holyflare. He's posted a lot but as I reread I find myself shrugging at all of his suspects and pushes. I haven't finished reading yet so maybe he comes around, but for now I'm not really getting super town vibes. I also really didn't like how mad he seemed to get at Slam, especially given how quickly he stepped back down it seemed... off.
Artanis[Xp]. He's said a couple things I liked but he also seems pretty background and bland. I'm used to mafia!Artanis being in this area, not town!Artanis. I get a mafia feel from him but I can't really argue it well and I'm not convinced yet, so he can be in null for now.
raynpelikoneet. I thought his posting was pretty involved, but when rso asked me to explain why I thought he was town I couldn't actually do it. Call it a gut feel that he's town I guess - reverse Artanis above.
Palmar. Can't read this dude. Don't feel like he's been productive this game. Don't like it.

MAFIA
sicklucker. Still feels like he dropped off in activity like he does as mafia. Suspending judgment.
LightningStrike. Could lynch this guy. Didn't like his Slam comment when he entered. Didn't like that he suddenly delurked that one time he did it. Don't really get the same level of involvement from him.

Anybody else not listed I forgot about or had nothing interesting to say about. Think that's VE, Onegu... straight up don't remember the others lol.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:38 GMT
#1757
lol if rso says exo is null then i'm putting him at null too. #SheepLyfe

o ya I think Breshke is null too. Wait and see kinda null.

Vivax was the last name, also null tho he said a couple of neat-o things.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:38 GMT
#1758
yea fuck it those are what i have, i'm obviously leaving people out because i can't be bothered to do anything else
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:39 GMT
#1761
i cant believe i forgot ff whatever dont even care

i tried, i spent 3 hrs on this, my head hurts and my brain is fried
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:40 GMT
#1763
On March 20 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote:
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LS is town

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bad eden ;o;

what.

no i don't agree with that. we gonna discuss this later. like i'll defer on exo cuz im biased as fuck about him after being mad at him earlier but i actually really believe in this ls thing
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:42 GMT
#1766
i've liked what breshke has said so far as well, but he hasn't left the zone of activity/insightfulness that he's capable of as mafia yet imo

if he's at this level by d2 and has a reasonably sized filter then ok but he's too early to call imo
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:42 GMT
#1767
On March 20 2015 10:41 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 20 2015 10:40 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote:
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LS is town

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bad eden ;o;

what.

no i don't agree with that. we gonna discuss this later. like i'll defer on exo cuz im biased as fuck about him after being mad at him earlier but i actually really believe in this ls thing


-whispers-

you'd still be wroooooong xP palmar agrees, too. historically palmar and i are the best at reading the ls

but palmar is null
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stop baiting me into posting i need a break and u KNOW i cant just ignore your posts ughuisdhkhsldfg;
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 01:43 GMT
#1768
also before the night is over, sicklucker better get online so i can play 20q's with him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 02:28 GMT
#1791
it is really hard not to be bm when people tell you "gg" after an mtg match where your deck refused to cooperate with you

it's like... no, it wasn't a good game. your deck worked and mine decided to durdle with taplands and wrong-colored mana. this was basically goldfish. how is this a good game ._.

i get that they aren't LITERALLY saying that and it's just a show of sportsmanship (which i guess i appreciate?) but i really feel like i'd rather hear something else. like when this happens to other people and they find 2 lands all game i say something like "sorry your deck wouldn't play ball"

is that better or worse iyo? am i just retarded? update at 11
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 02:28 GMT
#1792
anyway, rso PM me your steam name and also breshke looks town for his last big post. i might move him up sooner than i anticipated
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 02:38 GMT
#1796
On March 20 2015 11:33 Superbia wrote:
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On March 20 2015 11:29 Damdred wrote:
Super why are you scum reading me so intensity for scum reading you but ignore vivax scum read on you when he's only focused on you?


I had you as leaning town for having similar reads, so when you sheeped the read alarm bells started going off. To be quite honest, I still don't 100% understand Vivax's read on me. It did kind of feel town, I don't really think like mafia would try to fight me. idk.

so if mafia don't fight you then why are you scumreading damdred who's more actively engaging you than vivax
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 02:50 GMT
#1804
On March 20 2015 11:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On March 20 2015 11:28 Eden1892 wrote:
it is really hard not to be bm when people tell you "gg" after an mtg match where your deck refused to cooperate with you

it's like... no, it wasn't a good game. your deck worked and mine decided to durdle with taplands and wrong-colored mana. this was basically goldfish. how is this a good game ._.

i get that they aren't LITERALLY saying that and it's just a show of sportsmanship (which i guess i appreciate?) but i really feel like i'd rather hear something else. like when this happens to other people and they find 2 lands all game i say something like "sorry your deck wouldn't play ball"

is that better or worse iyo? am i just retarded? update at 11

Was it just a casual match or a tournament match? BO1? BO3? More info needed

casual bo3 and my deck bitched out on me twice. the game i won i actually got to play things and stomped
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 03:26 GMT
#1816
On March 20 2015 12:24 Superbia wrote:
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On March 20 2015 12:13 Damdred wrote:
On March 20 2015 11:50 Superbia wrote:
Look.

When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day.


Why are you still town reading vivax then if you think you did it to fast? Why give him such a long leash and yet throw scum on me even though I was somewhat asked about you.

This post also lacks a sorta conclusion which is weird meh


Atm I'm not hard town reading him. I have him leaning town but kinda null since you're moving up a little.

why does damdred moving up affect vivax moving down?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 03:29 GMT
#1818
also:
On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.

Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?

SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.

So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum.

if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 03:34 GMT
#1822
On March 20 2015 12:31 Superbia wrote:
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On March 20 2015 12:29 Eden1892 wrote:
also:
On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.

Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?

SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.

So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum.

if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred?


Why is this relevant? It's not EoD and my reads are not set in stone yet. Chances are I'm not changing my vote until EoD.

just seems like you would actually vote your primary suspect no? especially when 3 other people were already doing it
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 03:47 GMT
#1827
On March 20 2015 12:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 12:34 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 12:31 Superbia wrote:
On March 20 2015 12:29 Eden1892 wrote:
also:
On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.

Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?

SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.

So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum.

if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred?


Why is this relevant? It's not EoD and my reads are not set in stone yet. Chances are I'm not changing my vote until EoD.

just seems like you would actually vote your primary suspect no? especially when 3 other people were already doing it


Meh? I still like the SL lynch.

more than your top scumread at the time who was also a viable wagon ???
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 03:58 GMT
#1830
you woke up 3 hours ago?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:00 GMT
#1832
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"

and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:07 GMT
#1835
On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"

and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists


Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum.

weak

on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?"
on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment"
on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum"

vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon

i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:14 GMT
#1839
On March 20 2015 13:08 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1.

no my argument is that what you're saying is inconsistent and i don't understand why

please explain why you don't conclude that damdred is mafia from the 3 statements i summarized from your post which (i would think) should clearly lead you to conclude that
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:15 GMT
#1840
On March 20 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 13:07 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"

and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists


Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum.

weak

on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?"
on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment"
on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum"

vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon

i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia


I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet.

afaik nothing i'm saying here depends on anybody but sicklucker and damdred so i'm not really understanding why you need to be looking for a specific team of 5 to answer this query
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:21 GMT
#1843
On March 20 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 13:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:08 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1.

no my argument is that what you're saying is inconsistent and i don't understand why

please explain why you don't conclude that damdred is mafia from the 3 statements i summarized from your post which (i would think) should clearly lead you to conclude that


I'm posting my thoughts. I said I thought Damdred was mafia. People who I read townie said I needed to re-evaluate on Damdred. Damdred started posting. His posting seemed like it could come from a townie mindset. Now Damdred is null, slightly leaning mafia. Yeah?

superbia. follow me here man. you're not answering the question.

at the time you posted, before anyone could give you feedback on damdred:
you said "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?"
you also said "sicklucker is kind of meh"
you also said "i think there is 1 mafia between them but not 2"

given these things why do you not conclude damdred is clearly mafia and sicklucker is not?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:24 GMT
#1845
On March 20 2015 13:17 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 13:15 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:07 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"

and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists


Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum.

weak

on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?"
on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment"
on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum"

vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon

i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia


I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet.

afaik nothing i'm saying here depends on anybody but sicklucker and damdred so i'm not really understanding why you need to be looking for a specific team of 5 to answer this query


By the end of the day I prefer to look at the bigger picture rather than single out individuals. I want to see if the person I'm voting for fits in a mafia circle. Is there a universal wagon? How are the other people I'm reading scummy interacting with this individual? Etc, etc.

ok, i kinda understand the logic here, but i feel like you have to start by finding individuals. and frankly i'm a little worried that this process excuses you from finding individuals
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:25 GMT
#1846
you said you were "relatively certain" though. :/
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:33 GMT
#1850
On March 20 2015 13:29 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 13:25 Eden1892 wrote:
you said you were "relatively certain" though. :/


And then you guys told me "nono, damd is town" and it's like, whatever, I guess I'll re-evaluate? Though I may just say fuck you guys and still read him mafia tomorrow, we'll see.

okay, this is the second time you've made the same logic error. i will explain again. if you make it a third time i will be forced to assume it's deliberate and respond accordingly.

all of the following statements were contained in one post:

- "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?"
- "sicklucker is kind of meh"
- "i am relatively certain 1 of them is scum, but i don't think both are"

because these were all contained in one post, no one could have given input in-between any of these statements to change your relative certainty that one of them is scum.

so taking this at face value, i do not understand why it is that you:
- don't firmly conclude damdred is mafia
- don't conclude that sicklucker isn't mafia
- don't move your vote

please explain why this inconsistency exists
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:34 GMT
#1851
On March 20 2015 13:30 Superbia wrote:
Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow.

i was gonna get salty at not getting an answer but this is actually hella legit

you better have a good answer when you come back tho. and pics of the eclipse
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 04:40 GMT
#1855
On March 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 13:34 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:30 Superbia wrote:
Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow.

i was gonna get salty at not getting an answer but this is actually hella legit

you better have a good answer when you come back tho. and pics of the eclipse


You're literally an asshole. But whatever, it's like 4 hours away. Not going to get much sleep either way.



i said pics because i wanted to see the eclipse and i can't cuz i'm a bajillion miles away
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:11 GMT
#1870
On March 20 2015 13:42 Bill Murray wrote:
if sicklucker is up against people i view as town (damdred, eden, etc) i am going to vote him on the policy of L.A.L. (lynch all liars) as it is, though, i am going to relax tonight and see where the thread goes tomorrow. im going to catch up on the EU LCS i missed today, and try to whip another 80 pages out of my book on the french revolution. ive read most of 80-93 (or at least skimmed) so im only lacking ~20-30 pages of reading/skimming plus i mean having read the first 30-40 pages of the game i have a decent feel for who is going to contribute and who isn't

I don't really have any strong reads. I'm sure scum are merely eluding me because I'm rusty... but there is ample opportunity to catch them later. I'll get up with you guys tomorrow. Have a safe night hehe

billl muray u are a disacre

soon as i talk 2u abot the ncaa turney my team lose r1

this is on u
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:13 GMT
#1871
On March 20 2015 13:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 13:43 Superbia wrote:
On March 20 2015 13:41 LightningStrike wrote:
So Eden what you think of Superbia after talking with him?


What do you think of either of us after these interactions?

That's a way more interesting question than the one you posed. Like this literally makes no sense. It's very clear that Eden is now unclear about my alignment and is still evaluating my answers.

Eden always jumps with his reads and just asking if he's getting something from it knwoing how he jumps alot as town.

what if i told you the answer is no
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:16 GMT
#1873
ugh. i wish i knew ls's alignment because that question felt mean-spirited of me to ask

let me put it another way. what were you looking to learn from asking that question?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:26 GMT
#1877
On March 20 2015 14:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 14:16 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh. i wish i knew ls's alignment because that question felt mean-spirited of me to ask

let me put it another way. what were you looking to learn from asking that question?

I was wanting to know if you got something out of it on Superbia's alignment because if you didn't it looks bad in my eyes at least.

oh. lol

ya well i'm voting for superbia so... lol

i'm really having trouble understanding his thought process in that post. as of now, without superbia's forthcoming explanation, it seems like he was trying to say things about other players without really coming to direct conclusions about them. damdred i think touched on this earlier, i think i spelled out more explicitly how.

he seems like a decent lynch right now, but i do want to wait to give him a chance before i start yelling to bury him. i'm not sold that this is ironclad i just think it's good enough to run with for now and press harder on
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:34 GMT
#1880
On March 20 2015 14:24 sicklucker wrote:
Breske why are you voting me after reading me right your pretty terrible have you learned nothing... Im playing dota right now but im not letting you gobbers lose another game for town by killing me

as if
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“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:37 GMT
#1884
entp masterrace never forget
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:38 GMT
#1885
holyflare bro why don't i know you're lock-town yet?

bear in mind i haven't read everything and don't plan to.

why should i have you as lock-town rn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:45 GMT
#1888
yeah but entps are like literal gods. i looked this up once
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:46 GMT
#1889
wow V. Telling that holybro had no answer to my q
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:48 GMT
#1891
wait it is? lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:51 GMT
#1894
so is our list still the same then or what holybro

actually go read the thing with superbia i just had and tell me if i'm retarded or if i'm getting somewhere

then we can worry about lists
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:54 GMT
#1896
On March 20 2015 14:53 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 14:51 Eden1892 wrote:
so is our list still the same then or what holybro

actually go read the thing with superbia i just had and tell me if i'm retarded or if i'm getting somewhere

then we can worry about lists


+ Show Spoiler +
retarded >> lol you left yourself wide open ^^ (i actually couldn't be bothered to read that exchange; i'm so bad xP)

+ Show Spoiler +
adorable.
this spoiler thing is the best idea i/we ever had for mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 05:59 GMT
#1905
On March 20 2015 14:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 14:51 Eden1892 wrote:
so is our list still the same then or what holybro

actually go read the thing with superbia i just had and tell me if i'm retarded or if i'm getting somewhere

then we can worry about lists


seemed somewhat trivial

b.r.u.h
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:05 GMT
#1908
dang i tried to type out why i thought it made superbia mafia and i realized it's pretty much pure projection/speculating about what he would actually be trying to accomplish here as mafia

bummer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:08 GMT
#1910
boo bitch

who's YOUR scumread then
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:08 GMT
#1912
On March 20 2015 15:03 rsoultin wrote:
oh was that what it was about?

that argument has now been used so many times @.@ on various players

at least i'm not missing anything xP

eh it's not QUITE the same but i have to admit it's not all that different either

such a letdown
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:10 GMT
#1913
On March 20 2015 15:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm taking another myers briggs right now
Show nested quote +
Your dreams tend to be vivid and focus on a fictional world.

Does this imply that I dream the same/a similar fictional world every dream or that my dreams often involve a defined fictional world?

Or does it imply that my aspirations and goals for the future involve a world that is not real?


if i had to guess:
- vivid implies the actual phenomenon of dreaming not abstract aspirations
- the statement is examining whether those dreams are set in your actual life (dreaming about meeting friends from work at a bar) or a fictitious setting (dreaming about life on mars)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:13 GMT
#1920
On March 20 2015 15:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
does it include daydreams?

+ Show Spoiler +
alakaslam is mafia. someone once said that if slam is not having fun he's mafia. Does this slam look like he's having fun?

good question, i'm not sure. you'd think so but daydreams seem like they're more consciously guided which i don't think the question is observing
+ Show Spoiler +
i had him slight town because i thought his initial reaction to hf's push was solid. idk anything about fun as a measurement for slam and i'm not sure i have an evaluation of whether or not he's having fun gg
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:15 GMT
#1921
i barely remember my dreams, but my most recent one involved getting rounded up by secret police, escaping to my car and intentionally crashing it into a brick wall to evade capture
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:15 GMT
#1924
lol 100 pages in day 1. god help me i'm probably never actually rereading this game or catching up on anything i missed
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:19 GMT
#1929
i think it was some nazi shit so quick death by force of impact >>>> whatever the fuck else was gonna happen




hmm that list is pretty baller. i feel better about damdred and worse about palmar. bump tha homie breshke up. i also had toad higher but i feel your reasoning for why he is where he is

tell me bout how palmar is almost in townish
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:20 GMT
#1930
On March 20 2015 15:19 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 13:42 Bill Murray wrote:
if sicklucker is up against people i view as town (damdred, eden, etc) i am going to vote him on the policy of L.A.L. (lynch all liars) as it is, though, i am going to relax tonight and see where the thread goes tomorrow. im going to catch up on the EU LCS i missed today, and try to whip another 80 pages out of my book on the french revolution. ive read most of 80-93 (or at least skimmed) so im only lacking ~20-30 pages of reading/skimming plus i mean having read the first 30-40 pages of the game i have a decent feel for who is going to contribute and who isn't

I don't really have any strong reads. I'm sure scum are merely eluding me because I'm rusty... but there is ample opportunity to catch them later. I'll get up with you guys tomorrow. Have a safe night hehe


But we have already proven im not a liar

boy you literally posted 2x in the past 6 hrs both to just complain at people who scumread you

where you been this game?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:22 GMT
#1934
bruh this is a 20p game. p. sure ml'ing you isn't the end of the world if it's even an ml

can you please do something that isn't just spouting off self-centric reads
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:24 GMT
#1937
oh they added a fifth dimension, neat

wait how are assertive and turbulent opposites?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:27 GMT
#1942
On March 20 2015 15:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 15:24 Eden1892 wrote:
oh they added a fifth dimension, neat

wait how are assertive and turbulent opposites?


assertive - unwavering
turbulent - wtfamidoing

...o
i have no idea how i'd score on this. everyone will say high turbulence and i won't be able to argue it but that's just for mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:28 GMT
#1945
On March 20 2015 15:26 sicklucker wrote:
My reads are the best in the game hf... you lost your townread

Like how do you guys not see that dandred is mafia? Do you not play mafia with him? When he leads hes town when he lurks and sits on the sideline hes mafia its not hard

cite sources please. damdred doesn't always try to lead as town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:31 GMT
#1948
...every time you play...?

fuck now i have to go back and look. i'm pretty sure the answer is "always" but the way sl just immediately says that makes me think i'm wrong
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:31 GMT
#1950
On March 20 2015 15:30 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 15:28 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 15:26 sicklucker wrote:
My reads are the best in the game hf... you lost your townread

Like how do you guys not see that dandred is mafia? Do you not play mafia with him? When he leads hes town when he lurks and sits on the sideline hes mafia its not hard

cite sources please. damdred doesn't always try to lead as town


?? He literraly does hes on a 5 game streak doing it as town

no he's not

just the last game he was in this didn't happen lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:34 GMT
#1956
god damn it sicklucker mindgaming me so hard with that snap response about not trying d1

is2g he's used that defense before but i can't remember where
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:35 GMT
#1959
oh.

horn of africa.


...

town. fuck
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 06:39 GMT
#1964
ok i'm not bothering with looking at sicklucker today

he's not the lynch. just give me til day 3 and i'll have made up my mind
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 14:45 GMT
#2167
On March 20 2015 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 22:46 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 22:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I said I skimmed it, I didn't say I read it. I looked for lists or something general like that.


fitefitefite!

more seriously though i promised not to interact today and actually filter dive lol now go sit in your corner with your dunce cap or tell me why rayn is town

otherwise i'm not interested in you xP shooooo

I think Damdred is still the best shot for Mafia because his reads are more superficial than they usually are, he hasn't done anything and the way he's going about filtering is unlike how he's usually done it. He doesn't withhold reads on people and try to confirm other people as town for explaining it; he just saves up information and then spits it out in one big post that confirms him as town and makes us lynch his suspects. This damdred just seems to be playing to survive.

I think Rayn is a good second candidate because he's not really made his presence known. His push on Damdred was weakish and he hasn't really gotten mad at the people scumreading him too like HF. One point in his favour was the way he attacked me when I talked about Damdred confirming himself as town when he's town; it felt quite genuine.


On March 20 2015 22:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's good. Damdred confirmed town, time to sheep.
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax


On March 20 2015 22:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Suddenly it makes sense. I kinda discarded Vivax because Rayn townread him which I have no idea why I did so. Actually noted him as slightly worrying too because he hasn't gone pants on head retarded yet which Vivax normally does. Additionally I know something extra about Vivax that makes me think he's scum but that's information I can't disclose without being a dick.


so your top scumread makes one long post about Vivax that doesn't actually conclude anything spectacular and you're now ok with calling him confirmed town and sheeping it? that's something I do but it's not something YOU do

and you discarded a Vivax scumread earlier because your #2 scumread said he was town??? which you're now backpedaling on because your #1 scumread said he was scum?????

explain before I lynch with fire
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 14:49 GMT
#2174
On March 20 2015 23:28 Vivax wrote:
It's like Damdred vomited a wall of text and Artanis confirmed him town just cause wall of text.

good observation.

and to think i almost just sheeped damdred lololol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 14:49 GMT
#2175
On March 20 2015 23:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:45 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 20 2015 22:46 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 22:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I said I skimmed it, I didn't say I read it. I looked for lists or something general like that.


fitefitefite!

more seriously though i promised not to interact today and actually filter dive lol now go sit in your corner with your dunce cap or tell me why rayn is town

otherwise i'm not interested in you xP shooooo

I think Damdred is still the best shot for Mafia because his reads are more superficial than they usually are, he hasn't done anything and the way he's going about filtering is unlike how he's usually done it. He doesn't withhold reads on people and try to confirm other people as town for explaining it; he just saves up information and then spits it out in one big post that confirms him as town and makes us lynch his suspects. This damdred just seems to be playing to survive.

I think Rayn is a good second candidate because he's not really made his presence known. His push on Damdred was weakish and he hasn't really gotten mad at the people scumreading him too like HF. One point in his favour was the way he attacked me when I talked about Damdred confirming himself as town when he's town; it felt quite genuine.


On March 20 2015 22:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's good. Damdred confirmed town, time to sheep.
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax


On March 20 2015 22:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Suddenly it makes sense. I kinda discarded Vivax because Rayn townread him which I have no idea why I did so. Actually noted him as slightly worrying too because he hasn't gone pants on head retarded yet which Vivax normally does. Additionally I know something extra about Vivax that makes me think he's scum but that's information I can't disclose without being a dick.


so your top scumread makes one long post about Vivax that doesn't actually conclude anything spectacular and you're now ok with calling him confirmed town and sheeping it? that's something I do but it's not something YOU do

and you discarded a Vivax scumread earlier because your #2 scumread said he was town??? which you're now backpedaling on because your #1 scumread said he was scum?????

explain before I lynch with fire


You're pretty much mirroring my thoughts.

ya lol i posted before i caught up all the way
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 14:51 GMT
#2179
yeh fuck it artie has been bothering me all day with where he's been in terms of activity and involvement. he's like right in that sweet spot where mafia want to be and now that he finally posted reads, they don't make sense

let's see where this goes!

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Artanis[Xp]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 14:52 GMT
#2180
On March 20 2015 23:35 Palmar wrote:
I'm a bit pre-occupied today because of Censored.

I'll try to do stuff later but most likely I'll just sheep people who look like they care.

I still think there is a good chance Damdred is mafia. I think my points on him were good.

I don't think Artanis is mafia. Like obviously this only works for me, but if he is mafia he knows I'm town and he's been fairly casual in trying to interact with me, which he wasn't at all in imperial (I know, shitty meta, but still...).

I'm unsure about Toad. He really overreacted to me calling him mafia in the early game but I think he actually really believes the stuff he said about both me and Artanis in his big case, even if I think it's all wrong. The scummiest thing about him right now is that he seems to expect me to actually go read other games when everyone knows I don't really use meta and I hardly ever re-read old games.

I don't know about rayn. He went after Damdred before me, but I can't remember why.

I think holyflare looks fairly town. He has a lot of posts and seems to care.

SL could be mafia for fencesitting about me and toad.

LS is town, as explained.

rsoultin is maaaybe town?

VE has actually been seriously underwhelming and is a good shot for being mafia. I can't remember almost nothing of what he posted except he promised not to lynch me today. If I have time his is one of the primary filters I know I should read.

rsoultin made me read exo's filter yesterday and he looks sort of ok as I explaiend then.

I think that's all the people I remember off the top of my head. I know there's a few others (breshke etc) but I don't really have an opinion about them.

b.r.u
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 14:56 GMT
#2184
On March 20 2015 23:55 rsoultin wrote:
eeeeden >> i want rayn ;o; lynch rayn with me pretty please?

unless you have a reason not to :/ then i want to hear it

my reason is "lynch artanis"

LOL

why not artie?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:01 GMT
#2187
On March 20 2015 23:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:56 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 23:55 rsoultin wrote:
eeeeden >> i want rayn ;o; lynch rayn with me pretty please?

unless you have a reason not to :/ then i want to hear it

my reason is "lynch artanis"

LOL

why not artie?


artie could be scum but i don't know how to read him :/ i'd rather lynch about 4-5 people over him lol

rayn i think i've got nailed

gimme cliffs cuz i don't have a lot of time to go reread to find your reasoning
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:06 GMT
#2194
On March 21 2015 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
Guys just vote dandred one post does not get him off the hook.

no, vote Artanis. Damdred's case looks like it could come from townie Damdred. Artanis's flip onto Vivax does not make sense
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:09 GMT
#2199
On March 21 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:01 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 23:57 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 23:56 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 20 2015 23:55 rsoultin wrote:
eeeeden >> i want rayn ;o; lynch rayn with me pretty please?

unless you have a reason not to :/ then i want to hear it

my reason is "lynch artanis"

LOL

why not artie?


artie could be scum but i don't know how to read him :/ i'd rather lynch about 4-5 people over him lol

rayn i think i've got nailed

gimme cliffs cuz i don't have a lot of time to go reread to find your reasoning


it's a toneread, eden

essentially i've noticed that as town when he's getting reads he interacts with players...about his own reads, about theirs, not just settling on spectator analysis

he's been such a minimal force this game, and his reads are dropping like judgments. the interaction isn't there

this is something i specifically noticed about his town play because it impressed me...it's actually part of the reason i'm being less forthcoming in my own reads cause i think you can get more out of it, pulling people in to comment on your reads before you say why you think the way you do xP

hmm that's kinda legit

i will keep it in mind today @work and i might move over. ray hasn't dazzled me in here but for now i think artanis is better lynch
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:11 GMT
#2808
Ay guys sorry I was afk. This game is too big to catch up on at work. I got a little time here so help a brother out.

Everybody's on Vivax from the looks of the vote thread. I see something about vigs on this page as I type. What's going on?

Counterwagons look like LightningStrike and... ok I admit I forgot the other one LOL. What's going on there too?

And did Artanis ever satisfactorily answer my questions to him? I'll look at that myself but if anybody was paying attention that's awesome too.

FWIW I will probably sheep rsoultin today if I can't get caught up enough.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:13 GMT
#2817
Hey I see you rso. Gimme cliffs on these wagons while I make late lunch

+ Show Spoiler +
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:14 GMT
#2818
Come on guys someone help a brother out here. I don't wanna have to read 50 pgs real fast like
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:15 GMT
#2823
Bruh there isn't a mafia vig. I just checked the OP. Lol

Why is anybody even talking about this
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:15 GMT
#2828
On March 21 2015 06:14 rsoultin wrote:
vivax leading wagon...claims vig
toad CCs

rayn claims blue as some people start voting for him instead

i said i needed a hardclaim

he claimed tracker

so now the debate is whether or not we should lynch one of the two vigilantes and which one ^^

cliff notes lol

I say we don't kill either vig and let them resolve it themselves.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:16 GMT
#2832
Toad seems hella legit tho and idk why he would cc. Plus I thought he was town earlier. If we ARE lynching b/t them I'm lynching Vivax
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:16 GMT
#2835
On March 21 2015 06:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:15 Eden1892 wrote:
Bruh there isn't a mafia vig. I just checked the OP. Lol

Why is anybody even talking about this


there is?

but it's still kinda inconsequential cause vivax doesn't have to be the mafia vig as mafia to claim vig -shrugs-

No there straight up isn't, unless that "make sure any one person dies" thing is a vig. I thought that was the enforcer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:17 GMT
#2839
Oh lol that is a mafia vig not an enforcer.

MY BAD Y'ALL
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:20 GMT
#2850
Tbh I really want to let all the claims live and watch them resolve themselves. Lol

Like it'd be really funny to watch. Whoever fakeclaimed out of the vigs is SO FUCKED

But they might have rb so bad idea.

I would lynch Vivax out of the two, Toad seemed townie at the very beginning when he argued with Palmar. His reaction to Palmar was 100% legit to me cuz I did the same thing as town before. The logic is soooo townie POV to me. It's faulty, because Palmar DGAF if you think he should be trying new things or improving from previous mistakes or whatever. But that is exactly the thought you should have about Palmar if you don't know better.

Plus I don't get why mafia cc's town vig here d1. Just shoot the guy at night or rb him lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:21 GMT
#2853
On March 21 2015 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:18 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:15 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Come on guys someone help a brother out here. I don't wanna have to read 50 pgs real fast like

Vivax claimed vigilante.
raynpelikoneet claimed tracker.
Toadesstern counterclaimed vigilante.

Now the question is, who do we lynch?

I think Vivax is a good lynch. Raynpelikoneet isn't a bad lynch IMO, but most people seem willing to leave that for another day, so I guess I'll accept that.

This guy can be mafia too.


you know, just calling everyone who scumreads you mafia isn't gonna magically make you look town

yeah you wouldn't understand it anyway and you are scum so.. .bye,.

ray you gotta trust me on this one. rso is town. maybe the other people scumreading you are mafia but rso is not. trust me 100%
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:22 GMT
#2858
On March 21 2015 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:21 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:18 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:15 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Come on guys someone help a brother out here. I don't wanna have to read 50 pgs real fast like

Vivax claimed vigilante.
raynpelikoneet claimed tracker.
Toadesstern counterclaimed vigilante.

Now the question is, who do we lynch?

I think Vivax is a good lynch. Raynpelikoneet isn't a bad lynch IMO, but most people seem willing to leave that for another day, so I guess I'll accept that.

This guy can be mafia too.


you know, just calling everyone who scumreads you mafia isn't gonna magically make you look town

yeah you wouldn't understand it anyway and you are scum so.. .bye,.

ray you gotta trust me on this one. rso is town. maybe the other people scumreading you are mafia but rso is not. trust me 100%

no.

bruh come on. trust me here
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:23 GMT
#2864
On March 21 2015 06:22 Holyflare wrote:
So what's happening

Vivax claimed vig
Toad cc'd
ray claimed tracker

Currently deciding lynch. Most ppl seem to want to lynch b/t vig claims. I'm mostly on board with that and think Vivax is better choice.

Secretly I want them to shoot each other though LOL
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:24 GMT
#2871
On March 21 2015 06:22 Holyflare wrote:
Phil conners is bill murray btw we should lynch him

What does this mean lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:29 GMT
#2904
On March 21 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Just give it a night, we force the vigs to shoot our own targets or they claim mafia. If they don't it's free mafia.

Deal

If I have to sheep you to get this happen I'll just do that. Cuz this immediately occurred to me as optimal play.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Bill Murray
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:31 GMT
#2915
On March 21 2015 06:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Just give it a night, we force the vigs to shoot our own targets or they claim mafia. If they don't it's free mafia.

They'll both claim roleblocked and it's groundhog day again.


But if we kill bm for good he can't respawn and it won't be

LMFAO
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:33 GMT
#2924
On March 21 2015 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck you people you are so bad.

ray why is killing the vig cc the right answer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:38 GMT
#2942
On March 21 2015 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:33 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck you people you are so bad.

ray why is killing the vig cc the right answer

i am not killing "vig cc" i am killing mafia.

he is the one cc'ing the vig though. lol

that's what i mean

so why are you sure he is mafia exactly? bear in mind i haven't read due to [[REDACTED]] so please be patient with me and explain concisely why you think he's mafia

On March 21 2015 06:34 Palmar wrote:
The best reason for voting for Vivax is that Toad is using big letters and actually seems to care a fuckton.

lol i can't argue with this
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:38 GMT
#2946
On March 21 2015 06:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:35 Vivax wrote:
Yea like would be interesting to know who only pops up when the vigi claim is up since before it was just a plain wagon on me. It's like the best moment for scum to come in and post some cred-farming bullshit.


Guys who fit the profile the most are Artanis, Trfel, Eden, super.

what cred am i farming vivax
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:40 GMT
#2951
On March 21 2015 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BM wagon is looking so pure though.

there's still plenty of room on the [image loading]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:50 GMT
#2974
On March 21 2015 06:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:47 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:46 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm actually quite sure Vivax will flip mafia now. I'm getting the whole "flailing arms wildly in every direction" feeling.


Cause if you get lynched after claiming your role you wouldn't flail wildly.

A masterpiece of empathy.

You suddenly sound like you believe I'm town.


Not at all, I'm claiming that flailing wildly in this case is town indicative.

The "A masterpiece of empathy." sounds like you're accusing me of a lack of empathy. If you're town and believed I was mafia, you would presume I'm simply trying to further my win condition, so you wouldn't fault me of such a thing.

this is dumb ._.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:57 GMT
#2991
On March 21 2015 06:56 Palmar wrote:
Like I am more than fine with lynching a townToad for being bad and this gambling on a single role and thus outing his own role is actually just terrible play if he's town.

plumber plz. this is bad.

it is strictly better from his POV to cc mafia, get mafia lynched, and then use his shot on another suspect

than it is to let town guide the lynch on the other suspect
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 21:59 GMT
#2998
On March 21 2015 06:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:57 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:56 Palmar wrote:
Like I am more than fine with lynching a townToad for being bad and this gambling on a single role and thus outing his own role is actually just terrible play if he's town.

plumber plz. this is bad.

it is strictly better from his POV to cc mafia, get mafia lynched, and then use his shot on another suspect

than it is to let town guide the lynch on the other suspect

except even if vivax flips he's always getting roleblocked.

ok fair it's not strictly better. i just really like saying strictly better.

but it's still not that bad to take the high-% play and certainly not lynchable
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 22:26 GMT
#3075
On March 21 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
BILL MURRAY JOINS GAME BASED ON FAVOURIYE FLAVOUR EVER. PROCEEDS TO AFK ALL TIME EVER.

COINCEDENCE?

he got stuck in a time warp

let's put him out of his misery
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 22:56 GMT
#3162
GET ON THIS WAGON BOYS LETS GO
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 22:57 GMT
#3168
ARTY IF THIS WAGON SO PURE WHERE Y AT
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#3178
DON'T PLAY SAFE PLAY TO WIN
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 03:10 GMT
#3402
""My b" - Chillen" - Eden
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 03:24 GMT
#3406
hmm i feel ok about sicklucker reading his filter real fast

i will do post density analysis later but i feel like his activity level is high enough to pass my standards.
plus his question to onegu about voting with his partner is hella good esp. since onegu didn't do that at eod

give that boi a townread
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 09:29 GMT
#3470
exo did you ever actually have anything to say about my posts when i answered your questions?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 09:30 GMT
#3471
also, another psa:

if you townread me, you townread rsoultin. period, end of discussion
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 09:40 GMT
#3472
that's all i feel like doing right now lol. vca will come sometime tomorrow before eon
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 16:48 GMT
#3618
On March 21 2015 20:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least.
@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia?
@rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax?
@Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter?



not sure I can handle this though

what's scummy about those two things? i interpret this simply to mean that he thinks BM was town and is trying to make you explain why you thought otherwise
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 16:51 GMT
#3623
On March 21 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:
Before Viva's claim:

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 03:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Vivax (5): Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern
LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Vivax, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke
Artanis[Xp] (2): VisceraEyes, Eden1892
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, rsoultin
Toadesstern (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet
Eden1892 (1): ExO

Not Voting (1): Trfel

Currently, Vivax is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

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After all three claims: Viva, Toad, Rayn

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, rsoultin
Toadesstern (4): Palmar, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, VisceraEyes
LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, Damdred
Artanis[Xp] (1): Eden1892

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Final votecount with BM switch

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar
Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred
LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Onegu
Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes
sicklucker (1): Alakaslam

Not Voting (0):

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Lol, figured I'd share...I like the visuals without the strikethroughs...more on this later but i think the main problem here is not knowing for sure the alignments of the vigis :/

rsoul plz. i got so happy when i saw you post these vote counts and then there's no actual analysis ._____.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 16:58 GMT
#3627
On March 22 2015 01:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 01:48 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 20:58 Holyflare wrote:
On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least.
@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia?
@rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax?
@Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter?



not sure I can handle this though

what's scummy about those two things? i interpret this simply to mean that he thinks BM was town and is trying to make you explain why you thought otherwise


because I posted all of my reasons for lynching bm in the thread at the time...........?

honestly I thought he was towny at the start (you can see it in my list)
went to go get drunk
saw mass hysteria and wanted a new target because both claims pretty townyish
remembered the multiple afk excuses and that bm was lurky as fuck so just thought he would be better, especially intoxicated

but the thing is i made all my reasons very clear in the thread so why would he need to ask for my reasons to lynch BM? it just looks like a pointless question for the sake of asking a question

no offense to the homie ls but imo you could say this about a fair number of his questions he asks and i'm not sure it's alignment-indicative. for example after i finished pushing superbia he asked me if i "got anything out of questioning superbia" because "if [i] didn't [i] look bad." literally though that's all it was.

though now that i think more about it, what actually bothers me a bit is the lack of followup from him
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 16:59 GMT
#3628
On March 22 2015 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Who should the vigs shoot Holyflare? You cited that as reasoning for not voting for Toad or Vivax, what's the verdict?

good fucking post a+ was about to ask this to the whole thread
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 17:02 GMT
#3633
On March 22 2015 01:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Who should the vigs shoot Holyflare? You cited that as reasoning for not voting for Toad or Vivax, what's the verdict?


I know after making that plan I should be putting in the work to follow it through

but like......................................................................


meh?

:D
:D
:D
:D
D:

boo bitch
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 17:15 GMT
#3640
On March 22 2015 02:05 Holyflare wrote:
eden why do you feel like the most underwhelming person in this game but have loads of pages? that's not usual

because your feelings are wrong
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 17:27 GMT
#3641
well I was going to type up a VCA

but then I found this and it's more interesting.

On March 21 2015 05:18 ExO_ wrote:
I Highly doubt there'd be 2 vigis in the game. And I think lynching Vivax right now would be idiotic. That claim leaves him very open to a counter claim. There hasn't been one yet.

We shouldn't lynch Vivax right now. I'd really like more discussion on the rayn claim of tracker.

On March 21 2015 05:21 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:19 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:18 Superbia wrote:
I think we have the vigis shoot each other, right? This fucks us up so hard if they're both town, but I don't think we should spend lynches on this.

how about we lynch the fucking confirmed mafia Vivax like we were about to do before any of the claims happened and proceed to make mafia waste either a KP or RB on me during the night?


Jesus Christ, step back from the rhetoric for a second. He's not a confirmed mafia, in the slightest. Reevaluate the case. You're tunneling so hard, and it's not convincing somebody like me that he's mafia. It looks to me more like you're just dead set on lynching him and no information gained in the thread will change your mind.

"I highly doubt there'd be 2 vigs this game and I think lynching Vivax is idiotic because his claim leaves him open to a cc and there hasn't been one"
<CC>
"He's not confirmed mafia for you cc'ing him, step back and stop tunneling"

If ExO_ believes there aren't 2 vigs this game then why is he lecturing one vig claimant about the claimant's certainty in wanting to lynch his counterclaim??
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 17:34 GMT
#3647
On March 22 2015 02:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:13 ExO_ wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:08 Palmar wrote:
I honestly don't know by the way. I don't think they're both vigis.

I do appreciate that there is no need for scumToad to counterclaim this, it makes literally no sense. I do question though why he counterclaimed this, because shooting Vivax in the night seems MUCH cleaner.

Maybe mafia really wants VivaxVig dead? or maybe Toad is town and didn't apply brain to game.

I thought I had a good point about toad earlier in the game and I though he overreacted when I pointed it out. I honestly don't know. Like I would totally counterclaim Vivax as mafia, but I also understand that not everyone plays mafia as recklessly as I do. I have no idea if it's within Toad's range.

What if Vivax is mafiaVig. Ever thought about that?

just to explain it a little more because you either have a bad case of the dumb or don't want to understand it Palmar: If we don't lynch Vivax today there's a good chance he will get to use his shot if he is a mafiaVig



He'a not mafia vig. He just slipped. There is no mafia vig. He is mafia however, he has to be


While the point looks good on its own, Eden, when I read his filter and step on this I think he's town for believing this.

can you elaborate on this? that makes the thing I found even more damning to me lol

"why are you so sure vivax is mafia toad? stop tunneling he's not confirmed"
"no vivax isn't mafia vig, but vivax IS mafia"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 17:36 GMT
#3649
and then postflip he has the gall to call not lynching either vig claim stupid lol

ExO_: Why did you chastise Toad for wanting to lynch the guy he counterclaimed when you had just said you don't think there are 2 vigs in the game?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 17:39 GMT
#3651
On March 22 2015 02:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 02:34 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 02:31 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:13 ExO_ wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:08 Palmar wrote:
I honestly don't know by the way. I don't think they're both vigis.

I do appreciate that there is no need for scumToad to counterclaim this, it makes literally no sense. I do question though why he counterclaimed this, because shooting Vivax in the night seems MUCH cleaner.

Maybe mafia really wants VivaxVig dead? or maybe Toad is town and didn't apply brain to game.

I thought I had a good point about toad earlier in the game and I though he overreacted when I pointed it out. I honestly don't know. Like I would totally counterclaim Vivax as mafia, but I also understand that not everyone plays mafia as recklessly as I do. I have no idea if it's within Toad's range.

What if Vivax is mafiaVig. Ever thought about that?

just to explain it a little more because you either have a bad case of the dumb or don't want to understand it Palmar: If we don't lynch Vivax today there's a good chance he will get to use his shot if he is a mafiaVig



He'a not mafia vig. He just slipped. There is no mafia vig. He is mafia however, he has to be


While the point looks good on its own, Eden, when I read his filter and step on this I think he's town for believing this.

can you elaborate on this? that makes the thing I found even more damning to me lol

"why are you so sure vivax is mafia toad? stop tunneling he's not confirmed"
"no vivax isn't mafia vig, but vivax IS mafia"


Well it looks like he wasn't sure about me being mafia before he found the perceived slip, and thinking that what I said was a slip when I simply forgot about a mafia vig being in the game is so dumb it's townie.

But that's the issue - why wouldn't he be sure? He had, after all, just said that he found the idea of 2 vigs being in the game exceedingly unlikely. The only reason he wouldn't be sure you're mafia is because he would be entertaining the idea that Toad is mafia.

But then you look at how he talks to Toad and it's like he's coaching Toad on how to be persuasive to other people. I'm trying to avoid saying things like "he's talking to X like X is confirmed town" because that argument has been done to death not 72 hours into the game, but there's a complete lack of skepticism or inquiry in his comments to Toad there, and this is right on the heels of saying in effect that one of the claimants is mafia.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 17:52 GMT
#3655
well fuck me right

i go to check the most recent pages after getting this far:

Voting-based reactions to claims:
  • VisceraEyes moved from Artanis to Toad
  • Damdred moved from Vivax to ray
  • Vivax moved from LightningStrike to Toad
  • rsoultin moved from ray to Vivax
  • ExO_ moved from Eden to Vivax
  • Trfel voted for Vivax

Voting-based reactions to Bill Murray wagon:
  • Holyflare moved from ray to BM
  • Eden moved from Artanis to BM
  • rsoultin moved from Vivax to BM
  • Damdred moved from ray to Vivax
  • Vivax moved from Toad to BM
  • Superbia moved from sicklucker to BM
  • Breshke moved from sicklucker to BM
  • ray moved from Toad to BM
  • Palmar moved from Toad to BM


and i see that and i'm like "why bother"

lol still gonna bother people about their moves though
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:09 GMT
#3663
On March 21 2015 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:14 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:11 ExO_ wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:06 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:03 Vivax wrote:
Ok now that enough mafia or idiots are piled up on me I hardclaim Drax.

Drax the vig, the easiest role in the game to fakeclaim as mafia. Who would have though. Really convenient, isn't it?


What? Rofl. This is the dumbest thing ever. Vig is the WORST thing to claim as mafia. Because other vig will just counterclaim and shoot the mafia.

a) we don't know if there's a Drax in the game.
b) it's possible for there to be more than one Drax in the game.
c) a claimed Drax might be useless anyway because Nebula (Roleblocker) making it not even "provable"
d) counterclaim isn't really useful because Korath (mafVig)

I don't like the claim. I feel like Vivax would have claimed it sooner if real.


You think so? The way the setup reads to me it seems like there can only be one

It says exact number isn't known - there could be 4 drax and nothing else for all we know. Likely? Nah. But possible based on the info in the OP.


Ugh. A second drax would kind of fuck this up. I'm not sure how to resolve that situation correctly at this point.

That's what I'm saying - a counterclaim doesn't solve shit because they could BOTH be telling the truth or BOTH be lying for all we know. And the mafia vig if it exists could like, SHOOT Vivax if he's real and CLAIM that he was the real Drax and shot the imposter.

Like, that's part of the reason I don't like the claim - because he instantly thought he should be clear for it.

On March 21 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:44 Superbia wrote:
Am I the only one who currently thinks that the most likely scenario is that they're both town?

I'm coming around...I just don't know about having 2 drax in the game with the Orb being a thing.

On March 21 2015 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meeeehhhhhhhhhhhhh..........

I don't know what to do. I feel like this situation could resolve itself in the night though. Is everyone against that?

On March 21 2015 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah okay. I've thought rayn was town most of the day, maybe badly but whatever.

##Unvote
##Vote: Toadesstern


Sry Toad, if you're town you should have just let us lynch whoever and shot Vivax.

This thought progression makes no sense. VE spends most of the time talking about how the counterclaim doesn't solve anything, he comes in later and says he's "coming around" to having 2 vigs, wants the night situation to resolve itself and then literally not two minutes later votes for the cc without directly stating a reason.

VisceraEyes: Why did you believe Toad was mafia here? Why did you think mafia would cc in this situation and why did you flip so quickly from wanting to let the claims resolve themselves in the night to voting for the cc?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:11 GMT
#3665
On March 22 2015 03:09 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 02:27 Eden1892 wrote:
well I was going to type up a VCA

but then I found this and it's more interesting.

On March 21 2015 05:18 ExO_ wrote:
I Highly doubt there'd be 2 vigis in the game. And I think lynching Vivax right now would be idiotic. That claim leaves him very open to a counter claim. There hasn't been one yet.

We shouldn't lynch Vivax right now. I'd really like more discussion on the rayn claim of tracker.

On March 21 2015 05:21 ExO_ wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:19 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:18 Superbia wrote:
I think we have the vigis shoot each other, right? This fucks us up so hard if they're both town, but I don't think we should spend lynches on this.

how about we lynch the fucking confirmed mafia Vivax like we were about to do before any of the claims happened and proceed to make mafia waste either a KP or RB on me during the night?


Jesus Christ, step back from the rhetoric for a second. He's not a confirmed mafia, in the slightest. Reevaluate the case. You're tunneling so hard, and it's not convincing somebody like me that he's mafia. It looks to me more like you're just dead set on lynching him and no information gained in the thread will change your mind.

"I highly doubt there'd be 2 vigs this game and I think lynching Vivax is idiotic because his claim leaves him open to a cc and there hasn't been one"
<CC>
"He's not confirmed mafia for you cc'ing him, step back and stop tunneling"

If ExO_ believes there aren't 2 vigs this game then why is he lecturing one vig claimant about the claimant's certainty in wanting to lynch his counterclaim??


Read my filter. At that point I didn't realize he had CCed

"""my b" - Chillen" - Eden" - Eden
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:31 GMT
#3672
On March 22 2015 03:27 ExO_ wrote:
Damdred:

When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit.

After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him.

But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by.

And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum).

And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block?

But then if you aren't sure of me why do you still have yet to followup on any of the subjects you were pressing me about in the first place???
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:34 GMT
#3675
On March 22 2015 03:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred I was townreading Artanis so when he voted Vivax and the counterclaim by Toad I really thought Vivax was Mafia and I wasn't around at EoD because I was picking up my Dad from the Airport and having Dinner with him but if I was there I still wouldn't move my vote to BM because I was townreading BM if you had checked my filter -_- Also I should of told you guys this but I just been really demotivated because my Grandpa who I only met when I was a toddler is dieing and he might die within a few days and was stressed out about him dieing and not knowing him real well but since I signed up I feel like I still have to play it out even if I don't want to. I will try to be better but can't guaranteed anything on that. I going to get my haircut now and go to a BBQ with my parents and wont be back till after EoN so if I'm alive I will check everything and see what I can come up with myself!



I know how that goes. Don't worry overmuch about this game, family first. Message me if you need any help amigo.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:36 GMT
#3676
On March 22 2015 03:34 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:27 ExO_ wrote:
Damdred:

When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit.

After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him.

But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by.

And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum).

And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block?

But then if you aren't sure of me why do you still have yet to followup on any of the subjects you were pressing me about in the first place???


You're like 6th down the line for me. I'm more interested in Palmar, rsoultin, HolyFlare, Vivax, and rayn. I think they are all more likely scum than you are. You haven't seemed nearly as bad since you're little tantrum, then reset as well.

well since i'm town you're not wrong

but let's start with some of these others cuz I don't agree. except not with rsoultin, you don't need to worry about her yet - if you decide i'm town you can 100% sheep me on her being town.

why HF as mafia?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:47 GMT
#3682
On March 22 2015 03:44 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 03:36 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:34 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:27 ExO_ wrote:
Damdred:

When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit.

After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him.

But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by.

And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum).

And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block?

But then if you aren't sure of me why do you still have yet to followup on any of the subjects you were pressing me about in the first place???


You're like 6th down the line for me. I'm more interested in Palmar, rsoultin, HolyFlare, Vivax, and rayn. I think they are all more likely scum than you are. You haven't seemed nearly as bad since you're little tantrum, then reset as well.

well since i'm town you're not wrong

but let's start with some of these others cuz I don't agree. except not with rsoultin, you don't need to worry about her yet - if you decide i'm town you can 100% sheep me on her being town.

why HF as mafia?


Because he started the BM train. We were going to resolve the 2 vigi nonsense day 1, and then he came in and derailed it onto BM. rsoultin I feel like should've known better than to switch, so I find it odd that she did. I don't agree with the reasoning she gave me for switching. Palmar for that last second "yolo" vote. like wtf. And rayn is on the train too, but I was highly suspicious of that tracker claim he threw out there.

Of all these people HF is probably the weakest scum read the more I think about it. But he did start the useless ass train onto BM. So I have to at consider him.

so you make nothing out of him claiming masons with Onegu and Onegu confirming it then...?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:47 GMT
#3683
On March 22 2015 03:47 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 03:44 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:36 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:34 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:27 ExO_ wrote:
Damdred:

When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit.

After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him.

But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by.

And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum).

And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block?

But then if you aren't sure of me why do you still have yet to followup on any of the subjects you were pressing me about in the first place???


You're like 6th down the line for me. I'm more interested in Palmar, rsoultin, HolyFlare, Vivax, and rayn. I think they are all more likely scum than you are. You haven't seemed nearly as bad since you're little tantrum, then reset as well.

well since i'm town you're not wrong

but let's start with some of these others cuz I don't agree. except not with rsoultin, you don't need to worry about her yet - if you decide i'm town you can 100% sheep me on her being town.

why HF as mafia?


Because he started the BM train. We were going to resolve the 2 vigi nonsense day 1, and then he came in and derailed it onto BM. rsoultin I feel like should've known better than to switch, so I find it odd that she did. I don't agree with the reasoning she gave me for switching. Palmar for that last second "yolo" vote. like wtf. And rayn is on the train too, but I was highly suspicious of that tracker claim he threw out there.

Of all these people HF is probably the weakest scum read the more I think about it. But he did start the useless ass train onto BM. So I have to at consider him.



Then why aren't you putting me in your scum list?

m y n i n j a
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:08 GMT
#3718
ExO_ I know you're replying to a lot of things at once rn but why are you ignoring/not acknowledging the fact that HF and Onegu are claiming masons...?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:28 GMT
#3736
On March 22 2015 04:16 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 04:08 Eden1892 wrote:
ExO_ I know you're replying to a lot of things at once rn but why are you ignoring/not acknowledging the fact that HF and Onegu are claiming masons...?


Because I'm not sure if I want to accept it or not. But I have seen it and do think its possible, even likely.

I don't like this answer. You seem to phrase it as though you were indeed aware of their claims - "I'm not sure if I want to accept it" meaning that you were considering it but haven't decided on an opinion.

But then why does the claim not seem to inform your reads at all? You make no mention of it in reading Holyflare and you make no mention of Onegu at all when they literally have to be the same alignment.

Can you please explain this discrepancy for me?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:29 GMT
#3740
On March 22 2015 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
do you not think that it's weird that the play that we're inevitably stuck with is that we control the vigi shots and the only people we need in the thread are the vigi's and one of them is here while the other afk's doing nothing?

On March 22 2015 04:26 Toadesstern wrote:
Sorry guys had a shitty day, stuff happened, no time for TL. Were there suggestions on what to shoot? If not I'd like to suggest a Holyflare shot.

Trust me guys I know what I'm doing

chilling
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:29 GMT
#3743
On March 22 2015 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm a big mafia threat.

for you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:30 GMT
#3745
On March 22 2015 04:29 Toadesstern wrote:
I bring death to all the fakeclaimers

so shoot Onegu instead at the very least.

no offense Onegu you're the homie but if Toad is shooting a mason claim to confirm them HF is more valuable than you :o

but this is moot because you're not shooting them.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:34 GMT
#3757
well this whole scenario basically confirms HF and Onegu town even harder

let's look at this situation and assume HF is mafia
- Toad and Vivax both claim vig
- Either one is mafia or neither are
- If one is mafia then HF passed on the chance to lynch Toad to save his partner Vivax and instead lynched vt OR he passed on the chance to lynch Vivax to save his partner Toad and instead lynched vt and now his partner is threatening to shoot him
- If neither is mafia then HF passed on the chance to lynch a town vig to lynch vt

in no world does that make sense
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:35 GMT
#3762
toad isn't mafia though he's just toadstool-on-head retarded and drunk with hero play glory dreams rn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:43 GMT
#3771
like i am dead serious vivax please do not shoot toad. i am pretty sure he is town despite this silliness
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:47 GMT
#3777
On March 22 2015 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
not despite. Because

...huh, yeah, kinda
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:57 GMT
#3791
On March 22 2015 04:49 sicklucker wrote:
I know only one of you are really a mason because it would be really retarded if you both claimed for no reason. Be very careful with whoever the one who is faking being your partner.

.....................
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:27 GMT
#3844
On March 22 2015 05:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Vivax, shoot Rsoultin. If she is town we can deduce rayn may very well be scum

NO. FUCK THAT. DO NOT EVER EVER DO THIS.

I will policy lynch you d2 if this happens.

When the fuck are people going to start recognizing I have a literal 100% for sure accurate read on rsoultin
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:32 GMT
#3855
On March 22 2015 05:30 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 05:27 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 05:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Vivax, shoot Rsoultin. If she is town we can deduce rayn may very well be scum

NO. FUCK THAT. DO NOT EVER EVER DO THIS.

I will policy lynch you d2 if this happens.

When the fuck are people going to start recognizing I have a literal 100% for sure accurate read on rsoultin


100% accurate until you aren't

What makes you so sure she's town, anything not meta-based?

I whiffed once in the history of playing with rsoultin and that was when I was still developing / first figured out the read.

I am not wrong, this is not under discussion
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:33 GMT
#3860
I never ever ever make statements with that level of confidence about my capacity to meta read anybody else. I'm not just blowing smoke here.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:39 GMT
#3870
anyway back to this
On March 22 2015 04:37 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 04:28 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 04:16 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2015 04:08 Eden1892 wrote:
ExO_ I know you're replying to a lot of things at once rn but why are you ignoring/not acknowledging the fact that HF and Onegu are claiming masons...?


Because I'm not sure if I want to accept it or not. But I have seen it and do think its possible, even likely.

I don't like this answer. You seem to phrase it as though you were indeed aware of their claims - "I'm not sure if I want to accept it" meaning that you were considering it but haven't decided on an opinion.

But then why does the claim not seem to inform your reads at all? You make no mention of it in reading Holyflare and you make no mention of Onegu at all when they literally have to be the same alignment.

Can you please explain this discrepancy for me?


I guess I haven't thought it through yet. Onegu has been very quiet and has hardly stuck out so I've not been playing with what he's said in mind.

But you're right they do have to be the same alignment. And I don't think I'd be comfortable calling both scum at this point. I was/am really pissed off at HF for starting that BM lynch train. And he thinks he's some huge threat to mafia, when I think what he did helps mafia more than it hurts. But begrudgingly I think he's more likely to be town

i'm still a bit unsettled with this, but i think it is objectively an acceptable answer. so i'll let that sit and continue onward

you named Palmar as another suspect. why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:40 GMT
#3871
On March 22 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
he could have just afk'd on toad and vivax would still die

there is 0 way we let him get away with that
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:50 GMT
#3892
tbh i think slam and ve should be the shots
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:54 GMT
#3894
here's my list

definitely not:
sicklucker
Vivax
rsoultin
Toadesstern
Onegu
Breshke
raynpelikoneet
Holyflare
Damdred
Eden1892

probably not:
ExO_
Fecalfeast?
Palmar?
Trfel

ehh/maybe:
LightningStrike
Superbia
Fecalfeast?
Palmar?
Artanis[Xp]

sure:
Alakaslam
VisceraEyes

if vigs shoot out of my sure list i'll be happy
if they shoot out of my ehh/maybe list i won't be bothered
if they shoot out of my probably not list i'll be bummed
if they shoot out of my definitely not list i'll be mad
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:58 GMT
#3900
On March 22 2015 05:56 Holyflare wrote:
hmmm i'm pretty concerned about breshke

and when I say pretty concerned I mean he's very likely mafia :/

his posting volume is worrying atm but when he's been here i've felt like it's town breshke

why did you have ve as town btw?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 21:03 GMT
#3910
On March 22 2015 05:58 Vivax wrote:
Can you stop posting wishlists and go into more substantial things cause christmas is long since over and I'm not santa claus.

ya sure

slam is very disconnected from the game which doesn't fit with the "i'm trying to be serious this game" mindset he says he's trying to bring. pretty simple case there.

visceraeyes had a really weird rationale for getting on the toad wagon that didn't really look like a coherent, evolving picture of the game state. i also feel like he's been around a lot without really trying to find mafia and his posting level relative to the thread is right in the "comfortable" range where mafia want to be (active enough to avoid being accused of lurking but not super involved with the thread)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 21:05 GMT
#3916
On March 22 2015 06:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 05:56 Superbia wrote:
On March 22 2015 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
On March 22 2015 05:48 Superbia wrote:
HF, what are your thoughts on the two vigi targets for tonight? Do we have them down already?


slam and x


All right, slam sounds like a pretty decent target at this point. What do you think about SL/LS? I know I've been shouting about them all EoD, but not much has changed (at least, not for me). Though maybe not LS because I might be shit at reading him (he always looks really mafia).

I'm currently kinda looking at rso. I believe she has been leaning scum on me the entire game and has done seemingly nothing to further evaluate me. No real interaction or anything. I'm not really confident enough in calling for a vigi shot on her, however.

Maybe Trfel? Whenever I see his name "may be scum" pops up in my head, but I'm not entire sure why. I don't think I've really interacted with him this game, except for maybe a few quips.

I'm kind of scared of looking further at a second target tonight, since I'm reading like 3 scummy-ish people as PR.


eh you're one of those out of sight out of mind players for me; that's why you're one of my filter review dudes

still get weird vibes from superbia but don't think he should be the shot
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 21:06 GMT
#3919
On March 22 2015 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 06:01 Superbia wrote:
On March 22 2015 05:56 Holyflare wrote:
hmmm i'm pretty concerned about breshke

and when I say pretty concerned I mean he's very likely mafia :/


I don't know. I felt like he very well may be mafia, but he seemed to have thoughts similar to mine at EoD. I'm not ready to defend him, but idk. His interaction with SL, who I think is scum, seems to indicate possible team mates. Like Breshke flips on SL (town -> mafia) as the wagon on SL comes to a full stop. Breshke is supposed to have the greatest read ever on SL (according to SL) and SL doesn't even give a shit about the flip. Hell, Breshke isn't even interested in getting SL lynched (what did he do to push the lynch?).

So I guess in retrospect he may still be leaning scum. His (sort of) mindmeld at EoD confuses the fuck out of me, though.


sl is definitely town
like 100%

+1
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 21:13 GMT
#3932
ve is a much better shot than breshke, hf
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 21:23 GMT
#3944
decent logic on exo there.

vivax who you shootin bruh? slam yeah?

toad who you shootin bruh? ve yeah?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 21:23 GMT
#3946
On March 22 2015 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
also, i hate large games fml

lol 200 pgs first cycle
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 21:50 GMT
#3974
On March 22 2015 06:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Okay Eden you're the only one I'm trusting right now. I'm not going to shoot VE. Period. Take that as me being serious.
Do I shoot Onegu or do I listen to people?

listen to people

shoot slam since vivax hasn't confirmed he will and slam is a good shot
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 21:53 GMT
#3982
On March 22 2015 06:51 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 06:50 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 06:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Okay Eden you're the only one I'm trusting right now. I'm not going to shoot VE. Period. Take that as me being serious.
Do I shoot Onegu or do I listen to people?

listen to people

shoot slam since vivax hasn't confirmed he will and slam is a good shot

I spend like 2 hours to write this up and I'm pretty damn sure Onegu is mafia though

what the shit did you even write up
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 22:08 GMT
#3992
On March 22 2015 07:06 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
HF isn't dying tonight <3. I have trust in that


Are 9th blue soft yippoeee

what the fuck are you doing
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 22:09 GMT
#3995
On March 22 2015 07:08 Toadesstern wrote:
The vig is called by name. It's like someone claiming Batman in Arkham city and someone counterclaiming and people are "wait what if we have two fucking batmans"

you guys are horrible

i hear this, but last time i banked on logic like that, blazinghand was ACTUALLY the other jailer

and i don't know the flavor well enough to try to see whether or not there can be 2 drax's
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 22:11 GMT
#4000
On March 22 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 07:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 07:06 sicklucker wrote:
On March 22 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
HF isn't dying tonight <3. I have trust in that


Are 9th blue soft yippoeee

what the fuck are you doing


I MEAN HES PROBABLY NOT RLY THE MEDIC I DOUBT DANDREDS THAT DUMB ITS JUST SOME FUN WIFMO

calm

down
bro

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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 03:54 GMT
#4395
Good luck town. Bout time I was n1'd again
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 04:02 GMT
#4398
Wait. I wasn't n1'd?????

THE DISRESPECT
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 04:02 GMT
#4399
Scum done fucked up this time. Ya boi Eden finna solve this game, TONIGHT
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 04:05 GMT
#4402
Lemme get home first... Crack open a Shiner Bock... Ease into my rocking chair. Then we whoop ass, aite?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 04:07 GMT
#4403
On March 22 2015 13:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 13:02 Eden1892 wrote:
Wait. I wasn't n1'd?????

THE DISRESPECT

I don't even understand. Did you not read the post and assume? Sounds more like a half-assed fake dumbtell

No of course I read it, that was a brick joke to let people know I'm coming and I'm hype as fuck
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 04:44 GMT
#4408
OK boys, fasten your seat belts. We finna win this game.

The Mason Claims
So first of all, Onegu. Just based off of the fact that Holyflare ran with the masons thing instead of trying to get Onegu lynched, I'm gonna assume HF thought Onegu was town. I'm not very good at meta reading Onegu and he hasn't done much of anything this game to make me think anything of him. I'm cool with sheeping Holyflare here tho. If we have the luxury of an alignment check on Onegu then we can figure it out that way, but tbh if he's legit the mafia will have to NK him as long as we don't collectively go full retard and make him lynchable.

That said we shouldn't 100% believe Onegu's partner claim right now. Onegu already fakeclaimed a partner and he could very well be doing it again for kicks or for strategy or for whatever. Instead we should wait until ray comes back to the thread and confirms or denies that Onegu is his partner. I am reasonably confident he will and this issue will be resolved, but we maximize the value Onegu's able to get out of his play by simply letting this claim resolve itself, as it's soon to do.

The Jailer Claim
When the fuck are y'all just gonna take my word for it? I'm the fucking Prophet of Rsoultin by now. Seriously.

Yes she's the jailer. Yes saving Onegu over Holyflare was silly, and yes doing it because medic dodge is even sillier. But hey, player who's relatively new to the blues side of the game rolls blue and plays suboptimally. Shocking. Film at 11. rsoultin is the real medic.

The Orb
Trfel, I appreciate your enthusiasm and good job catching mafia. But for future reference, in a situation like this, don't disclose that you got and used the orb right away. I understand the impulse and it's definitely from the right place, you think you have something good to share (and in this case you totally did!) and you wanna get it out right away. But you can maximize the value you get from your information, and extend your play to potentially catch mafia, with some reservation. LS is a relatively new player to mafiaside and he's known to have issues with busing his teammates. Imagine what you could have gotten out of pushing him on his reads list all day and then claiming your orb check with ~6 hrs in the day. There's probably a gold mine in that list, but now we gotta mine it ourselves instead of having him mine it for us.

You obviously still did a great job, don't get me wrong, this is just free advice for the next time you end up with an investigative role. Investigative roles are powerful because they represent information the mafia don't have; they reduce the information gap between town and mafia. You don't want to put all your cards on the table until you're reasonably sure you got everything you needed from it.

I would have had more to say on this, but I got the impression LS confessed (I didn't read the actual page(s) where it happened, but I read the leadup and I see people quoting what sounds like a confession). And honestly, there's no excuse for tracking a claimed mason at all, and marginal excuse for checking one. So this was pretty much in the bag. Good job Trfel.

The Vigs
Toad shot VE, Vivax claimed to shoot Slam but was roleblocked. I'm gonna second Artanis's filter/etc. argument on Vivax being town, because it's pretty convincing. Plus Vivax being roleblocked as it's known he was shooting Slam makes perfect sense given my suspicion of Slam. And knowing Vivax is town, mafia Toad is literally never going to counterclaim vig d1 and try to get him lynched. At this point I have no problem believing we have two vigilantes.

continued...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:00 GMT
#4411
The Rest



Player List:
1 sicklucker
2 Vivax
3 rsoultin
4 Toadesstern

5 LightningStrike
6 Alakaslam
7 ExO_
9 Onegu
10 Breshke
11 Superbia
12 Fecalfeast
13 Palmar
14 Trfel
15 raynpelikoneet
18 Artanis[Xp]
19 Damdred
20 Eden1892



The first thing I have is that Alakaslam is mafia. This is a pretty easy case I made during the night. Here's the highlights:
  • Alakaslam claimed to be playing a more serious game, but hasn't actually tried very hard to scumhunt or find mafia. The disconnect here is obvious: If Alakaslam is town, and trying to play a serious game, why isn't he actually putting in the work to help his team win? I understand the game is fucking huge and sympathize with him possibly being burned out from the length and difficulty of keeping up, but it's not just that. Inactivity isn't the issue. It's that when he is around, he's not discussing his reads with other people or trying to question any suspects he has. His game has been entirely reactive.
  • The over-defensiveness to start the game. I know, we talked about this and concluded he was maybe leaning town for it. But this gets at the reactive play I was talking about before. He puts up a fight and hardcore OMGUS Holyflare (who we now know is town - not that there was much reason to doubt it) over basically nothing. I just don't think a townie reacts the way he did.
  • The roleblock of Vivax. Contrary to whatever some people's recollections might be (I didn't bother to read to see if this is being objected to, but talking with a slightly adversarial edge is fun), Vivax was pretty clearly down with shooting Slam. He says "MAYBE I'M SHOOTING SLAM. MAYBE I'M NOT. MAYBE HE ANSWERS" after agreeing with HF that Slam was a good shot, Slam doesn't do anything, Vivax discussed no other targets, ezpz.


The second thing I have is that Artanis is town. Artanis's activity level and involvement, especially since around the last 8 or so hours of d1, has really skyrocketed, and I believe it's well outside his normal mafia range. He's a really talented player and certainly capable of playing a good scum game; hell the guy's nominated for Best Mafia Performance for just that in a similarly big game. But he was a lot more background in that game than this one, easily. He's been driving home a lot of good points and coming to a lot of good conclusions. This guy is town.

The third thing I have is that Damdred is town. He's been busting his ass this game with strong analysis in n1, he's been involved and despite not being the loudest voice in the room, generally making sure his reads aren't forgotten and his opinion is heard. This is big because mafia!Damdred is a lot more okay with being a background player. The other thing is his frustration over VE dying. This is a pretty noticeable tendency in Damdred's town game, he gets frustrated when people don't listen to him about his reads and do the opposite of what they would imply. He could fake this frustration as mafia, but you look at how he came back soon afterward and got right back to the grind and that's how you know it's genuine. The boy just won't quit. he's town.

continued...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:25 GMT
#4412
The Rest, Part Deux



Player List:
1 sicklucker
2 Vivax
3 rsoultin
4 Toadesstern

5 LightningStrike
6 Alakaslam

7 ExO_
9 Onegu
10 Breshke
11 Superbia
12 Fecalfeast
13 Palmar
14 Trfel
15 raynpelikoneet
18 Artanis[Xp]
19 Damdred
20 Eden1892




I probably should have included FF with the other reads, since it's similarly easy to make, but three is a pretty number so I decided to save him for this post.

This post is why Fecalfeast is town, given that LS confessed. I regret skipping over this post d1, I skimmed it and went "ehh" and then didn't really think too hard about it. But look at the nuance in his analysis. He really digs into how LS is bringing things up and compares his meta reads to LS's town tendencies (like the observation, oft repeated since, that LS asked other people to post prior games and make his meta cases for him in essence instead of doing it himself). Then when he could have been the deciding factor in lynching a town vig, he stays on mafia. Even knowing now that LS had irl issues to deal with, LS is probably one of the poorest bus targets you could have. He's hard to read if you aren't very careful and meticulous in your observations, and it's very easy to look like you have too much information. You really have to be right for the right reasons when it comes to LS. And besides, how easy would it be for mafia just to be like "Oops, guess LS was mafia, I figured it was just LS's normal game" if LS ever gets caught? It's just such a weird bus target. Fecalfeast is town.

Second, Breshke is town. I've played with Breshke as both alignments before, and although this level of activity is more within his scum range than his town range, the quality of that activity is what distinguishes him in my mind as town. Breshke is one of those players who has a lot of trouble posting when he's mafia, and it shows. Generally when he's making insightful observations, he's town. When he's mafia he doesn't go for the TMI, "look at how useful I'm being" angle, he's more of a lurker who gets by on minimal effort. Posts like this are why Breshke is town. This is a good observation and is key to a later read of mine. You'll also notice that it's a followup to a previous question he had, another good townie signal. it's easy for mafia to lose track of something they asked in a huge thread like this - remembering to follow up later, especially when the point is actually good, is a pretty townie sequence.

Third, sicklucker is town. Y'all are just gonna have to trust me here. I'm gonna explain it, and it's not gonna be anything he can't necessarily do as mafia, but you're gonna believe me here because I'm slowly becoming pretty good at meta-reading sicklucker (not as good as I do with rsoul and probably never as good, but increasingly reliably good). sicklucker is displaying the inquisitiveness that I associate with his town game. His activity level has finally become acceptable there as well. If I'm wrong about anybody in my town pile it's probably SL, but I still feel pretty confident he's town. He's bouncing around in the thread chasing whatever weird angles he has to pursue. He needs to keep doing this obviously, and if you see him slack off and one of my scumreads turn up then feel free to disregard this read. But for now I think he's town because he's showing that he cares about figuring shit out and he's within his town range of activity.

continued...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:46 GMT
#4416
The Rest, Part Tres



Player List:
1 sicklucker
2 Vivax
3 rsoultin
4 Toadesstern

5 LightningStrike
6 Alakaslam

7 ExO_
9 Onegu
10 Breshke

11 Superbia
12 Fecalfeast
13 Palmar
14 Trfel
15 raynpelikoneet
18 Artanis[Xp]
19 Damdred
20 Eden1892




Lol is that 3 people left to identify with 3 scum remaining? Don't worry, I'm not just using POE.

ExO_ is mafia because...
  • He drops his lines of questioning and doesn't revisit them proactively. You have to drag this guy to the waters of his own recollected thoughts. He spent a long time early in d1 harassing and badgering me, and as soon as I say something of value he just decides that I'm "okay now" and doesn't pursue any other questions. If he were town, with so much info to sift through and a suspect with the largest filter in the game at the time, he would not have just dropped this.
  • He's a dick. And I don't mean that being rude makes you mafia. I mean that his whole emotional disposition is so out of whack with the thread that it's hard to believe he's a townie. He just fails the room temperature test so hard. Reading his filter you'd think town wasn't about to solve this game today. He was grouchy about how d1 went down even though by all metrics (except mislynching lololol) it was a great first day - lots of information hitting the thread, plenty of discussion fodder for a lot of people to prove themselves town.
  • There's a bunch of complaining and whining and shit-stirring at people for whatever things - for me getting mad, for HF mislynching someone - and then no impetus to do anything to fix the problems. I'll be honest, townies sometimes do this too, but it's usually associated with mafia in my experience. Townies, when they think the thread direction is bad, usually try to do something about it. It's mafia who just call it out to soft-suspect the people driving the thread (like me and HF) without trying to fix what they perceive as anti-town direction.
  • The LS association. Basically look at Breshke's notes I cited from the last segment here.


Superbia is mafia because...
  • He mad salty y'all. Sometimes in the thread he just goes on a spastic raging hissy fit. With Superbia, being angry for no reason is generally mafia-indicative (c.f. Imperial Mafia).
  • His "interactions" with LightningStrike are suspicious. I put that in quotes for a reason; there's not really interaction. They talk past each other. Superbia "scumreads" LS for inactivity/lurking a couple of times but then doesn't really push him much. He even asks LS a pretty good question about LS's bad question to me... and then does nothing with it. He also repeatedly whines for an LS wagon to start, but as soon as one happens he's nowhere to be seen; in fact he never votes for LS at all despite clearly "suspecting" him for quite some time. Meanwhile LS townreads Superbia for a fluff reason in his big reads list and then when given the opportunity to say something about Superbia after my questioning... doesn't.
  • I still think my questioning Superbia about the Damdred/sicklucker thing was meaningful. I can't place why it is and I probably never will unless I'm right about him and he bothers to tell me postgame. But the discrepancy in his conclusion there kinda felt like he was trying to find reasons to be suspicious of both players even though his own logic basically required him to be suspicious only of one.


Palmar is mafia because...
Haha I lied, this one is just POE. If I'm wrong about any of my suspects it's Palmar. I guess you could point out that LS's curiosity about Palmar dropped off a cliff after he posted his big reads list, but that's not really good. It's cool though, town has at least 4 more cycles to figure him out so idgaf if I'm wrong here really.



CONCLUSION:
Scumteam is LightningStrike, Alakaslam, ExO_, Superbia, Palmar. Lynch in that order.
If I'm wrong about anyone it's sicklucker. Don't let him drop off the face of the Earth.
Pretty much everyone else is convincingly town. All of our current claimants are legit. No other claimants are likely to be.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:49 GMT
#4417
Player List:
1 sicklucker
2 Vivax
3 rsoultin
4 Toadesstern

5 LightningStrike
6 Alakaslam
7 ExO_

8 Bill Murray (RIP) (My b)
9 Onegu
10 Breshke
11 Superbia
12 Fecalfeast
13 Palmar
14 Trfel
15 raynpelikoneet
16 Holyflare (RIP)
17 VisceraEyes (RIP) (My b)
18 Artanis[Xp]
19 Damdred
20 Eden1892
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:50 GMT
#4419
On March 22 2015 14:45 Toadesstern wrote:
I FIGURED THE SHIT OUT

LOL

Too late, I already solved the game. Go back to bed
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:50 GMT
#4420
On March 22 2015 14:49 Toadesstern wrote:
We're going to change that order a little once this day is over. At least one in there is town and I have not yet figured out which one

Ok nvm. Don't go back to bed. Whatcha got
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:52 GMT
#4424
On March 22 2015 13:48 Trfel wrote:
Yeah, it wasn't an ideal play to claim that I had the orb right away. However, a few factors motivated this decision. Namely, a ton of people begging for my head, and a potential tracker. So I tried to out ASAP to keep myself safe.

Why do you think that mafia will shoot one of the masons?

They can't lynch the masons and if for whatever reason there's any doubt about the pairing mafia might make a yolo gambit to try to claim being the other partner (though I doubt this second one highly).

As for people wanting your head, no sweat there. Your play will prove itself in time. I get the pressure from that, it's just a learning experience here, but in the future just keep grinding and fuck the haters man. You would vindicate yourself big time with your play
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:54 GMT
#4426
On March 22 2015 14:51 Trfel wrote:
Toadesstern, if you solved the game, it would be nice to let the rest of us mere mortals know XD

Eden, why wouldn't you believe any more claims?

Five claims is an awful lot as-is. I could believe 5 pr's given two of them just confirm each other, two of them are the same role and thus invite mislynches of each other and the 5th is directly dissynergizing with the 2 that actually do something. Esp. given that we also know mafia has RB if we take the claims at face value, this seems balanced.

But I feel like even one other is too much power for town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:54 GMT
#4428
On March 22 2015 14:51 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 14:50 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 14:49 Toadesstern wrote:
We're going to change that order a little once this day is over. At least one in there is town and I have not yet figured out which one

Ok nvm. Don't go back to bed. Whatcha got

can't tell before the day is over. Make sure to poke me endlessly when this day reaches deadline so that I don't forget about it. Probably poke Artanis and tell him to poke me as well.

bruh. ._.

ok fine w/e i'll try to remember
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:55 GMT
#4429
On March 22 2015 14:54 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 14:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 22 2015 14:49 Toadesstern wrote:
We're going to change that order a little once this day is over. At least one in there is town and I have not yet figured out which one

LOL

give it your all to prove to me that you're the townie in there! I believe in you!

i don't but this!! really if you are town slam you gotta ramp up yo game sson.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:58 GMT
#4433
On March 22 2015 14:55 Trfel wrote:
I guess I'm still skeptical of the mason claims...

But I'll need to take another look at that later. There's an extremely good chance I'm wrong on that.

The great thing is that we have an ML to give so even if we're somehow wrong about them, lynching one is enough to sort that shit out. I wouldn't worry about it though. Claiming masons is a low-EV play for mafia.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 05:59 GMT
#4434
On March 22 2015 14:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Maybe when I am here more I can.

I'd rather let it be what it is. From what I can remember and see, Holyflare should have been scum so Idunno- Idunno- probably Rsoultin! Idunno

probably our claimed jailer that oh yeah I have never misread once I've figured out how to read her over a month ago????
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:02 GMT
#4436
On March 22 2015 15:00 Toadesstern wrote:
There's absolutely no need to discuss that right now. The Mason claim is fine.

So eden you think Palmar is the most likely to be town if you had to drop one of the reads?

By far
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:03 GMT
#4439
On March 22 2015 13:44 Eden1892 wrote:
OK boys, fasten your seat belts. We finna win this game.

The Mason Claims
So first of all, Onegu. Just based off of the fact that Holyflare ran with the masons thing instead of trying to get Onegu lynched, I'm gonna assume HF thought Onegu was town. I'm not very good at meta reading Onegu and he hasn't done much of anything this game to make me think anything of him. I'm cool with sheeping Holyflare here tho. If we have the luxury of an alignment check on Onegu then we can figure it out that way, but tbh if he's legit the mafia will have to NK him as long as we don't collectively go full retard and make him lynchable.

That said we shouldn't 100% believe Onegu's partner claim right now. Onegu already fakeclaimed a partner and he could very well be doing it again for kicks or for strategy or for whatever. Instead we should wait until ray comes back to the thread and confirms or denies that Onegu is his partner. I am reasonably confident he will and this issue will be resolved, but we maximize the value Onegu's able to get out of his play by simply letting this claim resolve itself, as it's soon to do.

The Jailer Claim
When the fuck are y'all just gonna take my word for it? I'm the fucking Prophet of Rsoultin by now. Seriously.

Yes she's the jailer. Yes saving Onegu over Holyflare was silly, and yes doing it because medic dodge is even sillier. But hey, player who's relatively new to the blues side of the game rolls blue and plays suboptimally. Shocking. Film at 11. rsoultin is the real medic.

The Orb
Trfel, I appreciate your enthusiasm and good job catching mafia. But for future reference, in a situation like this, don't disclose that you got and used the orb right away. I understand the impulse and it's definitely from the right place, you think you have something good to share (and in this case you totally did!) and you wanna get it out right away. But you can maximize the value you get from your information, and extend your play to potentially catch mafia, with some reservation. LS is a relatively new player to mafiaside and he's known to have issues with busing his teammates. Imagine what you could have gotten out of pushing him on his reads list all day and then claiming your orb check with ~6 hrs in the day. There's probably a gold mine in that list, but now we gotta mine it ourselves instead of having him mine it for us.

You obviously still did a great job, don't get me wrong, this is just free advice for the next time you end up with an investigative role. Investigative roles are powerful because they represent information the mafia don't have; they reduce the information gap between town and mafia. You don't want to put all your cards on the table until you're reasonably sure you got everything you needed from it.

I would have had more to say on this, but I got the impression LS confessed (I didn't read the actual page(s) where it happened, but I read the leadup and I see people quoting what sounds like a confession). And honestly, there's no excuse for tracking a claimed mason at all, and marginal excuse for checking one. So this was pretty much in the bag. Good job Trfel.

The Vigs
Toad shot VE, Vivax claimed to shoot Slam but was roleblocked. I'm gonna second Artanis's filter/etc. argument on Vivax being town, because it's pretty convincing. Plus Vivax being roleblocked as it's known he was shooting Slam makes perfect sense given my suspicion of Slam. And knowing Vivax is town, mafia Toad is literally never going to counterclaim vig d1 and try to get him lynched. At this point I have no problem believing we have two vigilantes.

continued...

**REAL JAILER LOL
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:03 GMT
#4440
On March 22 2015 15:02 Toadesstern wrote:
On a scale from 0 to 10, how yolo are we to maximize swag here when d3 starts?

Sheeping me on all of my reads is pretty much an 11 on yolo swag so

11
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:04 GMT
#4441
On March 22 2015 15:02 Trfel wrote:
Thanks a bunch, Eden, for that analysis.

Oh, and I don't think I ever thanked Damdred for his analysis earlier, either. I was probably pretending to not be reading the thread. So, thanks to Damdred as well.

I'll be going to sleep really soon, looking forward to seeing what people come up with. I made it to page 32, so yeah, real stuff from me will be a while in coming.

Just, please, keep an eye on the claimed masons.

No problem and yeah, I realized Damdred's 4 suspects from his analysis are the 4 I'm pretty sure on too lol.

Which makes Damdred pretty much confirmed town to me.

Looking forward to your real stuff homie
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:07 GMT
#4445
Lol don't even tempt me, I lost my spotless streak in [[REDACTED]]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:08 GMT
#4447
On March 22 2015 15:05 ExO_ wrote:
Ill be back tomorrow evening. What I'll say is somebody has lied and I dont think they've realized it yet. Im going to let this little charade play out for a bit and see what happens.

All ill say is check some of these meta reads. people are wrong.

Look up "lie" and read that sentence again

And that's fine meta reads can be wrong. What about the non-meta reads implicating 4 people pretty strongly that I made?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:09 GMT
#4449
I said it a lot because it's fucking true and somehow you jokers just don't get it.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:13 GMT
#4453
On March 22 2015 15:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 15:09 Eden1892 wrote:
I said it a lot because it's fucking true and somehow you jokers just don't get it.

Yea true just like the reasons that make me scum.

That's partly the reason I want to flip so bad

uhhhh no. i don't think i'm wrong on you, but i acknowledge that however unlikely, it's possible.

i will not acknowledge the possibility that i'm wrong on rsoultin as of right now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:14 GMT
#4455
On March 22 2015 15:12 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 15:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 15:05 ExO_ wrote:
Ill be back tomorrow evening. What I'll say is somebody has lied and I dont think they've realized it yet. Im going to let this little charade play out for a bit and see what happens.

All ill say is check some of these meta reads. people are wrong.

Look up "lie" and read that sentence again

And that's fine meta reads can be wrong. What about the non-meta reads implicating 4 people pretty strongly that I made?


should read I dont think they've realized they've I know and can provie they lied

you better have a damn good reason for holding out on explaining. without knowing what the reason is, i'm not going to push it because it could maybe be legit. but i expect answers tomorrow evening
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:16 GMT
#4458
actually imma b hones

i think we lynch exo/superb then superb/exo then slam then palmar.

my points on exo/superb are actually grounded really concretely on things that happened in the game and while my slam ones are as well, i think my exo/superb points are better.

so instead
New Lynch Order:
LightningStrike, ExO_, Superbia, Alakaslam, Palmar
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:19 GMT
#4462
lol, bummer, i only caught 3 mafia by d2

who you think the townies are? palmar and slam?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:21 GMT
#4464
On March 22 2015 15:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 15:16 Eden1892 wrote:
actually imma b hones

i think we lynch exo/superb then superb/exo then slam then palmar.

my points on exo/superb are actually grounded really concretely on things that happened in the game and while my slam ones are as well, i think my exo/superb points are better.

so instead
New Lynch Order:
LightningStrike, ExO_, Superbia, Alakaslam, Palmar

Eden is scum.

He doesn't want me to flip because he knows I am raging about it in a way that isn't going to help town at all yet still wants me dead after others

He knows I am so far behind and so disgruntled that I will not help town period so he wants me to be put on back burner

no i'm pretty sure i moved you back cuz i realized my exo/superb points are stronger than my slam points
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:29 GMT
#4479
On March 22 2015 15:23 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 22 2015 15:21 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 15:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 22 2015 15:16 Eden1892 wrote:
actually imma b hones

i think we lynch exo/superb then superb/exo then slam then palmar.

my points on exo/superb are actually grounded really concretely on things that happened in the game and while my slam ones are as well, i think my exo/superb points are better.

so instead
New Lynch Order:
LightningStrike, ExO_, Superbia, Alakaslam, Palmar

Eden is scum.

He doesn't want me to flip because he knows I am raging about it in a way that isn't going to help town at all yet still wants me dead after others

He knows I am so far behind and so disgruntled that I will not help town period so he wants me to be put on back burner

no i'm pretty sure i moved you back cuz i realized my exo/superb points are stronger than my slam points

WHAT THE HLLY FUCK OF ISIOCY

LIKE I AM OME TO TALK VIT I DONT GIVE A SHIT ANORE

IF I AM TOWN YOU DONT WANT TO LYNCH ME

IF I AM SCUM UOU DO

SO

LYNCH ME NOW OR NEVER BECAUSE I AM NOT GOUNG TO BELOF CREDIT TO TOWN

slam pls if you're town why the fuck do you want us lynching you before SOMEONE WHO LITERALLY ALREADY CLAIMED SCUM
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 06:30 GMT
#4480
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?page=219#4379
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 06:31 GMT
#4482
On March 22 2015 15:21 Breshke wrote:
I really get the feeling that Exo has the orb and is misunderstanding the mechanics so he thinks he can use it to say trefel lied? This is just a guess

Nice posts eden. The only thing I don't agree with is superbia but I need to relook at him because the townread mostly came from him mirroring my thoughts EoD.

i would entertain the orb thing... except ls literally claimed scum in response rofl
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 06:33 GMT
#4484
like let's think about this thought process.

"hey guys i really need to leave the game. can we find a way to bus me for towncred?"
"i know! i'll fakeclaim tracking you to hf's body with the orb."
"great plan, but what happens when the guy with the orb cc's?"
"..."
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 06:34 GMT
#4485
On March 22 2015 15:32 Alakaslam wrote:
I didn't even ask that I am more rage because so far back on the list

I am tomorrow period

Obv for the kp u kill LS first but you don't then proceed to every other fool on the list except palmar

You do ME NEXT AND REEVALUATE

...or, we could kill the guys on whom i have good mafia cases, and then reevaluate BEFORE lynching you

which you should want if you're town but might be okay with not having if you're mafia
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 06:36 GMT
#4489
i can't tell if slam is deliberately posting pics to rage b/c the last time i ml'd him he did it
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Eden1892
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March 22 2015 07:19 GMT
#4512
On March 22 2015 16:18 ExO_ wrote:
gotta give me something or ill draw the obvious conclusion

i'm curious what the obvious conclusion is

i know what the actual obvious conclusion is, so pass my turing test
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
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March 22 2015 07:19 GMT
#4513
rso how do you feel about my analysis
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Eden1892
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March 22 2015 07:30 GMT
#4519
On March 22 2015 16:24 ExO_ wrote:
Are you a fan of disney movies like cinderella rsoultin?

great song

“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 07:35 GMT
#4522
On March 22 2015 15:40 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 22 2015 15:36 Eden1892 wrote:
i can't tell if slam is deliberately posting pics to rage b/c the last time i ml'd him he did it

That was more because there was absolutely no reason behind anything and irl was being a massive stress out at the time. I was literally Google imaging things like "malice" and "molech sacrifice" and "deformation" and "nuclear aftermath"

Like everything evil I could think of. Lately I am just under a bunch of normal job pressure so I can't keep up so i am venting it

holy shit lol i had no idea you were actually straight up googling all that

and i hear ya on stress and all. but... i can't help but think that this is contributing to the whole "there are too many pages to catch up on" phenomenon
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Eden1892
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March 22 2015 07:36 GMT
#4523
On March 22 2015 16:33 ExO_ wrote:
Why did HF fake claim mason? How does that make sense?

he's a tier-0 baller who had onegu as town, believed onegu's mason claim, knew he was likely getting n1'd and decided to bait a nightkill so the masons could be alive longer
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Eden1892
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March 22 2015 07:44 GMT
#4525
On March 22 2015 16:41 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 22 2015 16:35 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 15:40 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 22 2015 15:36 Eden1892 wrote:
i can't tell if slam is deliberately posting pics to rage b/c the last time i ml'd him he did it

That was more because there was absolutely no reason behind anything and irl was being a massive stress out at the time. I was literally Google imaging things like "malice" and "molech sacrifice" and "deformation" and "nuclear aftermath"

Like everything evil I could think of. Lately I am just under a bunch of normal job pressure so I can't keep up so i am venting it

holy shit lol i had no idea you were actually straight up googling all that

and i hear ya on stress and all. but... i can't help but think that this is contributing to the whole "there are too many pages to catch up on" phenomenon

Exactly my sarcasm. I am the type of person, who, having lost patience with someone who is asserting that he is impatient, therefore explodes at every grievance that person causes in them for the next hour or so to "make them not be a liar". Which is why I work on honing patience as a virtue, and why I need to sleep already instead of talking about it and staying bete

well, go sleep then silly

but i am gonna talk tomorrow sometime. it's kinda my job in this game to put your feet to the fire and make you do things regardless of irl stuff, so i'm gonna do that when you're around.

but bro i know a ton about getting worked up and stressed in these games, if you need sleep get it and we'll talk later
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 07:55 GMT
#4528
On March 22 2015 16:51 ExO_ wrote:
I really dislike the fake claiming, espicially as VT. Do you think anybody besides HF could pull it off?

maybe? what's not to like about it...?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:21 GMT
#4535
On March 22 2015 17:15 ExO_ wrote:
Here goes though. I'm the cop. I checked rsoultin last night and she came back Vanilla Town. So she is lying about being the jail keeper. I tried to get her to admit to lying on her own, but shes staying away from it with a 10 foot pole. So either she's a fake claiming VT or Godfather. After this post she's going to say she was fake claiming as VT either way. I personally can't understand the reasoning behind doing it though. I think she's godfather.

On March 09 2015 12:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Cast of Characters


Tanaleer Tivan the Collector

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Tanaleer Tivan the Collector has the ability to manipulate cosmic energy to project concussive force beams, morph into alternate beings, and use stun and stasis beams to incapacitate his enemies.

Tanaleer’s abilities allow him to submit the name of a player each night to reveal their role.

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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 08:21 GMT
#4536
I counterclaim role cop

I checked ExO_, he's Tanaleer Tivan the Collector
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:22 GMT
#4539
This game is fucking awesome.

Line those skins up on the wall boys. 2 scum claims in under 12 hours. God DAMN we are good.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 08:23 GMT
#4541
On March 22 2015 17:22 ExO_ wrote:
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On March 22 2015 17:16 Trfel wrote:
ExO_, congratulations, you just claimed scum.

The cop is an alignment cop, not a rolecop.


wow. I fucked up. I really am the cop. didnt realize it was just alignment.

Im not lying though. The way I read the role description was wrong. I assumed it meant I would see their role.

If you were the real cop you would know rsoultin is town but not that she is/isn't jailkeeper.

You done goofed son.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:23 GMT
#4542
On March 22 2015 17:23 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 17:21 Eden1892 wrote:
I counterclaim role cop

I checked ExO_, he's Tanaleer Tivan the Collector


Remember this for when I flip cop. Please do not forget it.

Oh I'll remember it
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:24 GMT
#4543
I can't wait for the Euros to wake up and see this.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:28 GMT
#4551
On March 22 2015 17:27 ExO_ wrote:
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On March 22 2015 17:24 Trfel wrote:
ExO_, start from the beginning, please.

What check are you claiming on rsoultin, and what conclusions do you draw from this result?


Before I do, what exactly am I allowed to say from the PM I got. Im under the impression I can't say anything at all about it. itll be hard to explain without revealing a keyword from the pm

Is the key word "Nova Corps"?

Ask me how I know

Go on, ask
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:30 GMT
#4553
In essence you can't c/p the PM or post a screenshot but if you got a role/alignment in flavor text form you're allowed to say. EX: "I scanned rsoultin and she came up Nova Corps" instead of "I scanned rsoultin and she came up Vanilla Town"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:33 GMT
#4555
On March 22 2015 17:32 ExO_ wrote:
Yeah it said nova corp. So I read it and assumed rsoultin was VT from that. I've been under the impression that I was role cop, and when it said nova corp I thought it meant literally VT.

Its my fault for not paying super close attention to the role description. Sorry all :/.

Nova Corps right? Not Nova Force?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 08:33 GMT
#4556
This is very important. If you are town it should say Nova Corps.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:36 GMT
#4560
On March 22 2015 17:34 ExO_ wrote:
It said exactly Nova Corps

Psych, I lied.

Nova Corps is the name for VT.
Nova Force is the name of the town.

You're a role cop.

Bye
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:37 GMT
#4562
Or hell it might even be Xandar instead. Who knows exactly.

But it's not Nova Corps because that's the exact VT name and I'm trusting the hosts not to use the same name for good-aligned people generally and a specific role in a game where a role cop can only be mafia and an alignment cop can only be town
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:38 GMT
#4563
Lol Slam gonna be so fucking mad when he checks back in and he's a lock to be lynched d4 at the earliest
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 08:40 GMT
#4566
This game is amazing.

Goodnight everyone.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:42 GMT
#4569
If it was then I'm sincerely sorry for lynching you d3 and for getting cocky about it in the meantime.

But you have to understand that short of a moderator straight-up issuing errata on the matter (which I have a feeling isn't happening) I pretty much have no choice but to lynch you.

It's sad because I'm pretty sure I can't even devise a way for you to scan someone tomorrow and confirm yourself town. You would just start claiming Nova Corps for everything if you were mafia to keep your story straight.

Guess you better start spewing town fast...
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:44 GMT
#4575
On March 22 2015 17:42 rsoultin wrote:
the thing throwing me off is scum claiming cop and a green check right now that just seems odd >< like super odd and stupid

all it takes is not realizing the town cop isn't a role cop

there were no cop claims and it was pretty unlikely that one was gonna come out later, so the odds of being un-cc'd cop were high. then he tries to drive an ML on you in the way he did, maybe he gets a lynch out of it maybe not. regardless he claims rb'd until the end of time and he's not getting lynched

if the cops did the same thing it would have worked... they just don't. easy oversight to make
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:45 GMT
#4578
On March 22 2015 17:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what is going on?
ExO is claiming a cop with rolecop result and Eden is claiming a cop with a guilty on ExO?

ExO_ claimed role cop result and I jokingly claimed to scan him as the (mafia) role cop
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 08:45 GMT
#4581
On March 22 2015 17:45 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 17:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2015 17:43 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, please hard claim your role at this time.

If you change this claim, you will be lynched.

You hard claim first.
I have been pushing your red check all fucking D1.
No, you are going to claim first.

I guarantee that the entire thread will support me in this.

ray, he's right. just trust me on this
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
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March 22 2015 08:46 GMT
#4587
On March 22 2015 17:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like are you fucking retarded Trfel?

yoooou might want to catch up amigo.

holyflare flipped vt.
onegu the mason claim is now claiming you're his partner
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:47 GMT
#4590
what's interesting though is that ray's track is consistent with vivax's rb claim

which makes me think ray is tracker...

...is onegu mafia? roflmao
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:48 GMT
#4592
ray obviously hasn't caught up with the thread, or else is convincingly faking as much

which means he wouldn't know to fake a result that's consistent with vivax's story

not that as mason he'd have an incentive to do it anyway...
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:48 GMT
#4593
On March 22 2015 17:47 Trfel wrote:
So, at least one of ExO_ and raynpelikoneet is mafia. Possibly both.

change "raynpelikoneet" to "Onegu" and yes
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:48 GMT
#4597
like there is 0 way ray is mafia here. if there's mafia involved in the mason shenanigans it's undoubtedly onegu
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:50 GMT
#4599
On March 22 2015 17:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 17:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ray obviously hasn't caught up with the thread, or else is convincingly faking as much

which means he wouldn't know to fake a result that's consistent with vivax's story

not that as mason he'd have an incentive to do it anyway...
If he is mafia, he would know that Vivax was roleblocked....

oh, right

...and then it's a little weird that the mafia went for masons over a tracker claim

fuck i can't think about this right now lol. too tired
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:51 GMT
#4604
On March 22 2015 17:49 Trfel wrote:
Remember our claimed blue roles? At this time we have:

2 vigilantes
1 tracker
1 alignment cop
1 jailkeeper

I think it's pretty clear that at least one of these claims is fake.

well yes, the alignment cop one is fake

and honestly if you take that out... and i guess assume onegu is lying about being a mason... 2 vigs, 1 tracker, 1 jk vs 5 mafia with an rb and a couple extra kills isn't unreasonable
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:52 GMT
#4606
On March 22 2015 17:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 17:50 Trfel wrote:
On March 22 2015 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2015 17:47 Trfel wrote:
So, at least one of ExO_ and raynpelikoneet is mafia. Possibly both.

Do you or do you not have a red check on LS as you claim?
I tracked LightningStrike to Holyflare using the orb. Holyflare was killed at night. LightningStrike has claimed scum.

I am essentially confirmed town.

No you are not. It in fact makes ME confirmed town because i have been pushing LS on D1 all day long you fuckface.

ray, he tracked LS to HF's body, and he claimed to do so using a unique item that, if he's lying, literally anybody else could cc him on successfully

trfel is confirmed town
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:53 GMT
#4608
On March 22 2015 17:50 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 17:46 rsoultin wrote:
yeah i mean mods can make errors too but an error like this would be insane...not to mention it's not even my role so they'd have to actually use a named role for an alignment check which is even more unlikely


This is 100% what happened. I was told Nova Corp. My role is the cop.

:|

you know there's like 0 way i can believe this, right? like this fucking blows for you if it's true but you have to understand that from my pov i can't possibly buy this
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:54 GMT
#4610
hmm not a palmar game

Esteemed Hosts:

What is the name of the town faction?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:55 GMT
#4613
On March 22 2015 17:54 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 17:52 Trfel wrote:
On March 22 2015 17:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 17:49 Trfel wrote:
Remember our claimed blue roles? At this time we have:

2 vigilantes
1 tracker
1 alignment cop
1 jailkeeper

I think it's pretty clear that at least one of these claims is fake.

well yes, the alignment cop one is fake

and honestly if you take that out... and i guess assume onegu is lying about being a mason... 2 vigs, 1 tracker, 1 jk vs 5 mafia with an rb and a couple extra kills isn't unreasonable
Which is precisely why I said that one of ExO_ and raynpelikoneet is definitely mafia.



Since I dont think ill be able to convince anybody of the truth, what is the best course of action here for me to do to help town, for when I do flip cop?

keep grinding. ask good questions and keep trying to solve the game. you're gonna get some people who are gonna lol at you and say "you're confirmed scum i'm ignoring you" keep working anyway
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 08:55 GMT
#4614
k i'm way past my bedtime

bye 4reelz now
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 09:00 GMT
#4624
oh oops missed that

sorry mods ignore my q.

and i think exo is town actually. i just figured it out
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 09:00 GMT
#4625
rsoultin you are absolutely claiming jailkeeper here? no takebacks
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 09:15 GMT
#4652
On March 22 2015 18:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So is it real?
ExO claims an alignment cop with a rolecop result?

i'm trying to figure this out, and we really pretty much have to know what the town faction name would be to figure this out 100%

the reason i asked rso to confirm jk is that exo could only "slip" if rsoultin is vt. otherwise his result isn't "nova corps," it's "gamora zen-whoberi"

i guess theoretically he could have been mafia anything, fakeclaimed cop and assumed "nova corps" was the default name to make his argument... but the way he leads up to it honestly really reads like someone who has a cop check and is about to spring a trap

so i'm currently at the place where i think exo is actually an alignment cop and "nova corps" is unfortunately both our faction name AND the vt name. the only* alternative is that rsoultin isn't jailkeeper and is fakeclaiming as vt, but that's why i asked her to confirm

(* yes rsoultin "could" be mafia but i'm not entertaining that because soul. fuckin. reads. y'all.)
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Eden1892
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March 22 2015 09:17 GMT
#4655
plus it's pants-on-head retarded for mafia to claim there imo. like that whole argument is hella contrived if exo is mafia. why not just claim a red check instead of saying "i checked her green. she's the godfather"?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 09:17 GMT
#4656
On March 22 2015 18:16 Onegu wrote:
I'm still claiming mason btw, just not with Rayn I though he'd go along with it but I missed the tracker result oops.

god damn it donald
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Eden1892
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March 22 2015 09:18 GMT
#4659
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 09:19 GMT
#4660
On March 22 2015 18:18 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 18:17 Eden1892 wrote:
plus it's pants-on-head retarded for mafia to claim there imo. like that whole argument is hella contrived if exo is mafia. why not just claim a red check instead of saying "i checked her green. she's the godfather"?



Maybe didn't check and thought town had a Rolecop.also

if he were trying to impersonate town rolecop
he wouldn't go "i scanned rsoultin. she is nova corps. i think she is gf"
he would go "i scanned rsoultin. she is <mafia role plucked from the OP>"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 09:24 GMT
#4665
On March 22 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
NOBODY IN THIS GAME EVER JAILS ONEGU OVER HOLYFLARE ON N1.
NEVER!
NEVER!
NEVER!

eh. it's suboptimal but i can see a pretty reasonable (if imo incorrect) townie logic for it.

but i will give rso a chance to explain that first. rso, so far you've said "medic dodge" as part of your rationale. can you elaborate on what this means?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 09:28 GMT
#4670
On March 22 2015 18:25 rsoultin wrote:
do i really have to elaborate on what this means?

it's pretty damn obvious

holyflare is a normal n1 kill anyway, plus him claiming mason and being perceived as confirmed town

if mafia is trying to avoid a save he's the one they're not going to shoot

maybe it was dumb but it made sense to me

you do, because that's the exact logic i assumed you were following, and if i said it before you explained it in detail (AS I ALMOST DID LOL) then you wouldn't be able to prove you were thinking it independently of someone else saying it

so yes, basically rsoultin tried to go one level up in the shell game and got burned for it. suboptimal, but the logic is pretty obvious
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 20:34 GMT
#4959
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 20:39 GMT
#4961
Honestly tracking either of y'all is dumb. It tells us nothing unless you're stupid enough as mafia to fakeclaim vig, claim a shot on X, claim roleblocked and then also deliver kp somewhere else. If you're town or you're halfway competent mafia you'll be able to craft an unfalsifiable story.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 20:58 GMT
#4977
I think the best way to start in resolving these claims is to see which claims I absolutely believe are true and then evaluate the rest based on their activity in the thread and then see if the resultant format makes sense.

So here's what I'm aware of (not fully caught up yet bear in mind):
rsoultin as Gamora Zen-Whoberi
Vivax
as Drax the Destroyer
Toadesstern
as Drax the Destroyer
ExO_
as Peter Quill, Star Lord
raynpelikoneet
as Nova Prime Irani Rael
Onegu
as Groot

rsoultin is town. :dealwithit:

ExO_ I can't possibly see as mafia on further reflection. Let's look at what we have to assume for this to be true:
- ExO_ seeded being the cop in several posts prior to claiming
- ExO_ fakeclaimed cop with a green check on someone then argued the target was the godfather instead of just claiming a red check
- ExO_ didn't bother to look at the role he was fakeclaiming to see whether it was an alignment cop or role cop
- ExO_ brought the argument to rsoultin when he wasn't directly under pressure at the time, putting himself in the hot seat just to try to maybe get a jailer claim mislynched

Does that sound like anything resembling a good plan to anybody? How about instead ExO_ is the real cop, didn't realize he was only an alignment cop due to getting a check that used the same name as a specific role, and claimed to force someone he thought was fakeclaiming to explain themselves? Yeah Eden that makes a lot more sense.

So that's two who are basically 100% clear to me through either claim circumstances (ExO_) or godreads (rsoultin).

Then we have the vigs. Vivax has been busting his ass this game harder than I've ever seen him bust his ass, as town or as mafia. Vivax's filter is nearly half the size of his entire Imperial Mafia filter in 94 hours of gameplay. He is on pace to OBLITERATE his previous posting records that I'm aware of. No way this dude is mafia.

And Toad... Honestly I just don't see mafia fake-cc'ing in that spot. It's just such a bad play because if you don't get the guy lynched, he's putting a bullet in your ass with the quickness, and if you do get him lynched, you're pretty much a lock to be lynched tomorrow, which is functionally almost no different from getting a bullet in your ass with the quickness anyway. Then you look at the fact that he's also working reasonably hard to figure the game out, and that he claimed the VisceraEyes shot when VE made little sense as a mafia shot, and Toad is also town.

So right now we have an investigative role and two killing roles, plus a jailer providing mild dissynergy. That seems pretty reasonable. It leaves us a mason who fakeclaimed a partner multiple times and a tracker whose n1 track doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know as the other claims. Onegu's is easy to resolve: his partner won't be lynched today, so he should claim it at the end of n2 so that if he is going to be shot, we have it on record. Claim within the last 20m of the day so mafia can't exploit the shot. ray's isn't as simple. I admit that I haven't read ray's filter enough to give a read without his claim, so I'm uncertain as to whether we should accept it or not. I'll look into that later.

TL;DR:
- rsoultin, ExO_, both vigs all V. Likely to be legit
- Onegu will claim his partner at EON and that will resolve that
- I'm really skeptical of ray's claim but I'm not informed enough to pass sound judgment at this time
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 20:59 GMT
#4979
On March 23 2015 05:52 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 05:50 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 23 2015 05:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 23 2015 05:32 rsoultin wrote:
viva, you do realize that list came out before rayn's claim? i had to check cause i couldn't really remember when that was :/

i'd been think ls was town most of the game -shrugs- that's the second i was talking about. pretty sure toad's claim hadn't come out yet either but i haven't verified that yet?


Check it again, quite possible my memory failed me, but I was reading stuff from the time around the claims so I find it unlikely? Maybe I was reading backwards.

As for Toad's question: I have no idea. Would be interesting to hear about it from rayn.


[...]
Btw could anyone please chime in and tell him that townreading Artanis for his effort he put into ever since late d1 and later is in fact a good reason to townread him. Just tell that to vivax because he doesn't believe me and if noone talks about that he'll take it as if he's correct when in reality noone is bothering to talk to him about that because it's so damn obvious.

[...]


someone like Eden or idk.. someone that Vivax isn't currently scumreading at least

I mean this is literally what I already did so. Yea lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:00 GMT
#4980
On March 23 2015 05:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 05:55 Vivax wrote:
Toad, I already said I'm considering that rayn is making a play here, so I'm really only waiting for him to show up. I don't see a point in discussing the claims any further when he could say "I'm not tracker", "I tracked some other guy and bsbsbs", "I'm actually Onegu's partner" etc.

I'll reconsider him as scum if he's still alive the next day and based on the new input but all this claiming bullshit and the talk of it is getting on my nerves heavily. It's stuff that becomes clearer as the game moves on and dwelling on it when today's lynch is decided already is something I leave to sisyphus.

Sisyphus is the rock pushing guy, right? Google says I am right. He was punished for chronic deceitfulness.

I don't understand what it means to leave something to sisyphus

He means it's a waste of time because we're just turning over the same ground over and over.

I'm not convinced, but that's because I can do the analysis and get to the bottom of it. If he's not finding it productive then it's probably feeling like shoving a rock up a hill only to watch it roll down again, yeah.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:02 GMT
#4985
On March 23 2015 05:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 05:39 Eden1892 wrote:
Honestly tracking either of y'all is dumb. It tells us nothing unless you're stupid enough as mafia to fakeclaim vig, claim a shot on X, claim roleblocked and then also deliver kp somewhere else. If you're town or you're halfway competent mafia you'll be able to craft an unfalsifiable story.

okay I guess I could fake it as mafia...

but why take the 0% chance of confirming anything above the... let's say 5% chance of me being stupid? Especially if he's mighty angry about me and wants me dead REALLY BADLY.

I just don't see why he'd track a townread, ever. I can get that tracking me would not have been optimal and he should have probably tracked a secondary scumread but Vivax?

I think if I didn't know better, I would actually track a townread. I can see mafia getting greedy and having a tracker's strong townread deliver kp elsewhere thinking they wouldn't get tracked. I would expect mafia to be conservative with the guy who the tracker is zoned in on.

My comment is more that it just doesn't make sense to track either one of y'all, because outside of that corner case and the corner case where the scum team goes full troglodyte there's no way you find out anything you couldn't already guess from the night actions.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:04 GMT
#4988
On March 23 2015 06:02 Damdred wrote:
Listen to me,

Someone copy paste rayns wagon d1 please I can't do it on phone.

Think d1 damdred hf and hf vote Rayn. LS doesn't jump on wagon to push it over the edge? But jumps on vig vivax without any thought?

When vivax claims Rayn claims minutes later when people. Ould go back to him. Am I crazy this sounds like a Scum wagon Scum wouldn't get on.

On March 21 2015 07:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Vivax (7): Holyflare, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, rsoultin, Palmar, Damdred
raynpelikoneet (0): Holyflare, Damdred, rsoultin, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:05 GMT
#4991
On March 23 2015 06:00 Toadesstern wrote:
Eden you missed that Sicklucker claimed Mason with Onegu

Don't even care. Waiting for the word from the horse's mouth
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:07 GMT
#4993
I think without reading the part of the game Damdred's quoting, I won't know what he's getting at.

And I still haven't done that. #RealMVP

So I guess I better do that now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:13 GMT
#5000
On March 21 2015 05:12 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i am blue.


hardclaim or i'm not accepting it

On March 21 2015 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
tracker

On March 21 2015 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you can kill me on D2 if i am not but you are scum anyways rsoultin. so you can't,


Lol at this sequence.
ray: "i'm blue"
rso: "hardclaim"
ray: "ok, tracker. but u r scum. i just hardclaimed to scum because lololol"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:14 GMT
#5002
i can't be the only one that noticed that ray immediately complied with his scumread's demand for a hardclaim right?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:14 GMT
#5003
what the fuck kind of tracker does that, ever
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:16 GMT
#5006
an actual literal account of what happened:

RAY: "I am blue"
RAY'S SCUMREAD: "Hardclaim or I won't accept it"
RAY: "K, I'm tracker"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:17 GMT
#5007
Ya ray is mafia that's pretty much the end of that to me. Unless he has a really good reason for telling someone he thinks is mafia what role he is
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:19 GMT
#5010
On March 23 2015 06:18 Toadesstern wrote:
can we lynch rayn before LS so that Vivax shuts up about me pretty please?

no
LOL
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:20 GMT
#5012
I bet both of you wish you noticed what I noticed
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:23 GMT
#5016
On March 23 2015 06:21 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 06:19 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 23 2015 06:18 Toadesstern wrote:
can we lynch rayn before LS so that Vivax shuts up about me pretty please?

no
LOL

you go back into mafiapile for wanting the chaos that is another 48hours pants-on-head Vivax describing why I am mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
not really..

The Rock needs this WWF style primadonna feuding to make this game the spectacle He wishes to see
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:28 GMT
#5019
Ehh I generally think "He's not talking to X like he scumreads X" is bad because some people are just more charitable to their opponents than others. I try to be, I feel like Palmar tries to be when he's not mercilessly spamming KILL TOAD, etc.

But there's a difference between "He's not talking to X like he scumreads X" and "His scumread literally just demanded a roleclaim and he complied." No blue who suspects X is E V E R going to comply with X directly demanding a claim. In fact I don't think a blue is going to claim like he did, period. It's kinda like Damdred said, it's almost like ray claimed at the precise best moment to cut off the switch back to him before it could gain momentum. And a blue who decides to claim blue to defend himself is likely going to wait until the people he TR's start demanding his role before he outs. He's not gonna comply at the drop of a hat with his scumread's request!
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:45 GMT
#5024
Lol Vivax pls
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:57 GMT
#5030
FF is town. Trust in The Rock
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 22:20 GMT
#5034
Trfel, what's your view on ray's claim?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 22:35 GMT
#5038
On March 23 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
Ff what do you think about the Rayn stuff

I think I'd like rayn to come back and explain himself. Unless he has and I haven't seen it

If he has I haven't seen it either
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 22:42 GMT
#5040
On March 23 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote:
Why can't people give opinions or conclussions before he comes back instead of waiting which btw two cop type roles in a game?

?
I'm pretty much treating ray's immediate compliance with rsoultin's demand for a hardclaim as ray claiming scum until he explains since there's literally no reason a town tracker responds to one of his main suspect's demands for a hardclaim with immediate compliance
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 23:15 GMT
#5058
i won't

i'll give vivax his due respect by not clogging the thread with investigating leads i don't think will find scum
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 23:25 GMT
#5073
On March 23 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
Go dive super rs

^^gets it. You can join The Rock's stable.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 23:31 GMT
#5078
On March 23 2015 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Could always shennany on Rayn and hope he's the rb so viv can shoot LS XD trololol

you say that but

that sounds hilarious and awesome

i won't do it tho poor ls needs to be out of the thread as quickly as possible
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 23:34 GMT
#5083
On March 23 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also whilst catching up I noticed you were annoyed that I'm simply calling you town for your filter length, and that you were worried about future games.

I don't need to dig into your filter to know you're town because the filter length plus the eden soulread plus jk claim is enough for me to realize you're town already. I'm sure you're town for other reasons too, but why would I look for them when I'm already almost certain you're town? Seems like a better idea to look into other people.


meh i know everyone has different opinions as to how people should play the game and i really did clutter this thread up quite a bit needlessly lol i don't post that much just to get townread

(in all honesty i might have overcompensated to avoid looking timid...i'm not used to playing blue ><)

eh i just get chided for leading town poorly, then not leading town, then this then that and i don't know what to do anymore lol but that's for post-game i guess

my advice is to just go. keep doing whatever is coming to mind as a good idea. you see something, say something about it. i would have never checked back on ray's claim and found the gem i found if damdred hadn't suggested something about ray and ls that i didn't understand from context

and don't worry about leadership either. as much as we like to hype up individual plays made by individual players when we talk about mafia, mafia is fundamentally a team game. you don't have to lead or carry any games to be good at this game. you just have to be observant, mindful, and confident in yourself and your instincts. if you find something good then the leadership will come in time
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:10 GMT
#5088
On March 23 2015 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Eden stop being so team minded, you might actually earn a NK that isn't a medic dodge for once.

bitch please i was n1'd in my first newbie game while the doc was knowingly rb'd
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:11 GMT
#5089
On March 23 2015 08:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
LS isn't the rb he can't be. Vivax was rb supposedly, IF LS flips rb viv Prolly Scum I doubt hts let's someone block and carry a kp

Show nested quote +
8 Any given scum can deliver a faction kill as well as any KP granted by the orb.


I'd take that as anyone can deliver KP.
It's usually you don't have to pick anyone to deliver at all and it's thus not trackable or everyone can deliver even if they have roles.

i think what damdred is saying isn't that goon has to deliver kp, but that you can't both rb someone and deliver kp with the same person

+ Show Spoiler +
lol how clinical is "deliver kp"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:21 GMT
#5099
On March 23 2015 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Yes for example LS was tracked to hf not to vivax. If he is the rb how did vivax not shoot?

Good point. I have a theory that's better not to explain until post night though.

explain at EON then if you don't mind

and yeah outside of FF hardcore and I mean HARDCORE busing LS d1, i can't see anybody in that list being mafia rn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:23 GMT
#5100
On March 23 2015 09:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh no wait there's 17 players, I just forgot since on my spreadsheet I'm already the confirmed town green.

one of those is LS so really it's 9/16 with 4 mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:28 GMT
#5102
so let's look.

nope.avi
me
rsoultin
vivax
toad
artie
damdy
trfel
exo_
ff

okay.jpg
breshke
sicklucker
slam
ray
superb
palmar
onegu

my first thought for a plan of action:
- make onegu hardclaim his mason partner immediately and have partner confirm
- have a vig shoot onegu anyway to confirm
- lynch the rest and win

and i mean honestly? i have the next 3 lynches just about made up in my mind. LS is confirmed mafia, ray and superbia both have pretty solid evidence against them imo. so i feel like i could pretty much just kill down the line here unless ray and/or superbia really ball out the next couple of days and prove themselves, at which point i think there'd be due cause to reconsider

i don't want to get complacent but this really feels like we're close to solving it
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:32 GMT
#5105
On March 23 2015 09:28 Damdred wrote:
Who are the unconfirmed left in that lynch

i need a fucking rosetta stone for your phone posting. roflmao

if you're asking what i think you're asking, have this:

On March 21 2015 07:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Bill Murray (4): Superbia, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar
Vivax (2): LightningStrike, sicklucker, Palmar
LightningStrike (3): raynpelikoneet, Onegu
Toadesstern (1): Palmar, raynpelikoneet, Palmar
sicklucker (1): Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke
Eden1892 (0): Onegu
Damdred (0): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker
Alakaslam (0): sicklucker
Trfel (0): Superbia
Holyflare (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting (0):

Currently, Bill Murray is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:34 GMT
#5106
and slightly reinforcing what damdred was saying earlier, once we look at the voting record without the nope.avi group in it, suddenly all the votes ever cast for ray disappeared
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:34 GMT
#5107
i forgot onegu's final vote was on LS
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:36 GMT
#5109
On March 23 2015 09:34 Eden1892 wrote:
i forgot onegu's final vote was on LS

update: no wonder i forgot, he never mentions his vote for LS and doesn't actually make an effort to give a read on LS either

no towncred 4u
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:39 GMT
#5111
On March 21 2015 19:20 Onegu wrote:
Sorry I wasn't around for deadline would have voted Bill Murray. Will rng who I sheep at day post and let you all know. Will try to play Sunday and read some filters. For now.just letting my mason partner keep me kinda up to date.

???towncred account balance restored???
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:40 GMT
#5113
On March 23 2015 09:37 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm actually pretty damn confident in my analysis that Onegu and Rayn can't be mafia together

i'm cool with it

man how fucking awesome would it be if sicklucker is actually onegu's masonbro?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:42 GMT
#5116
On March 23 2015 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
that bill murray wagon is so lame

""""my b" - chillen" - eden" - eden" - eden
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:00 GMT
#5122
On March 23 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote:
Okay I'm home. The discussion today looks like it's gone much better than expected. I fully expected to be the leading lynch candidate.

I'm going to play civ/read the thread. I'm over 20 pages behind. Though tbh it looks like I'm not even needed that much. Game has nearly been solved.

I'm really sorry for really messing up my role. Looks like it turned out okay. Good job carrying me being horrible.


You didn't botch it lol. Collective misunderstanding. You got confirmed town out of it and your check further confirms rsoultin so yeah. Worked out!
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:03 GMT
#5123
On March 23 2015 09:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm actually of the belief that Mafia has pretty much given up on the game and that everyone currently posting is town.

i don't believe in unicorns

but i think i saw a horn lying around here somewhere...

like if there's gonna be a game where mafia rolls over and dies, this is prolly it. thread atmosphere has been fucking terrific imo. lots of people trying to figure shit out, making good observations and reads

this just doesn't feel like a thread where the mafia have a lot of presence. in those threads things usually just don't get done like they are here. it's never even one person's fault usually, but it's like there's this foul miasma hovering over everyone's heads clouding sound judgment. the air is so clear here
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:39 GMT
#5135
...hey, wait a sec

assuming all kills processed without interference and both vigs shot, how many kills should there have been?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:45 GMT
#5145
alright so basically here's the list of questions to resolve:

  • How clear was it that Toad was shooting VE by the time night actions couldn't be sent in anymore?
  • Was Onegu shot or a shooter?


The first one resolves the oddball scenario where mafia also shot VE. I don't think that happened deliberately; any WIFOM that could be created out of making it seem like Toad is mafia and carrying the kp to VE is really unconvincing given that Toad was the vig cc. It's possible mafia accidentally shot VE, but I consider that a poor shot.

The second one resolves the missing kill, and also Onegu's alignment, which is nice.

Basically, put another way, once we sort out whether Onegu is a mason or not, we sort out the n1 actions.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:46 GMT
#5147
err

**accidentally meaning they shot VE without realizing Toad was doing it too. passing on killing a townie just to stir up WIFOM on Toad that no one would believe anyway is retarded
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:47 GMT
#5148
On March 23 2015 10:46 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 10:45 sicklucker wrote:
So onegu was saved or toads mafia basically. So hes pretty likely mafia I doubt we have a vet we seem to have are roles capped out
There are several of possibilities.

1. Onegu was shot
2. Onegu was carrying the KP himself (and was roleblocked)
3. Veteran was shot
4. Toadesstern is mafia
5. Mafia double-stacked to incriminate Toadesstern

6. Mafia shot VisceraEyes without knowing Toadesstern was also doing so

fify with the theories i think are too unlikely to be worth considering crossed out
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:48 GMT
#5149
really I think resolving Onegu's alignment fixes everything. at that point it doesn't really matter whether they shot VE or Onegu (if Onegu is town), that doesn't tell us anything
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:48 GMT
#5151
damn i'm itching to force onegu to claim with his partner and force his partner to claim
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:53 GMT
#5161
On March 23 2015 10:49 sicklucker wrote:
Actually rstoul is 100% a vet for that horrid claim. Well played

jesus christ sicklucker shut the fuck up if you actually think this is true ._.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:53 GMT
#5163
not that it matters because there is approximately 0 chance rsoultin did that
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:55 GMT
#5167
sicklucker

+ Show Spoiler +
i know you think spewing WIFOM all over the thread is pr0pl4yz but we're actually trying to solve the game and claims play a big part in it so please stop the bullshit
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 01:58 GMT
#5168
anyway i have no idea why ve would have been shot and i kinda just don't believe onegu so that would make him lock mafia imo
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 02:01 GMT
#5171
On March 23 2015 11:00 Trfel wrote:
Sicklucker, I apologize. I'm sorry.

I have reasons for my actions, but it's not worth going into them. If you would like, we can discuss the right/wrong thing to do after the game.

Eden, you are currently scumreading raynpelikoneet, right? If he isn't tracker, that leaves us with 2 vigilantes, 1 jailkeeper, and 1 cop (assuming no masons). You don't think it's possible for there to be a veteran in addition to this?

i wouldn't bet on it. those are all hella useful roles. if there's a vet i'm sure we'll find out about it by d4 after lynching ls and ray
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 02:02 GMT
#5172
On March 23 2015 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:
we could lynch him first to figure that out... but that would be pretty lomo

don't tempt me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 02:18 GMT
#5176
On March 23 2015 11:09 Trfel wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot Onegu or VisceraEyes here. It doesn't make sense. And if you assume that Toadesstern is town, and that mafia didn't shoot Onegu or VisceraEyes, Onegu is basically confirmed mafia.

Raynpelikoneet's claim aside, any mafia reading the thread would realize that ExO_ was extremely likely to be a blue. He was leaving hints to being blue all over the place, and furthermore, I commented on it twice. It was kind of impossible to miss. I don't think shooting mason Onegu (when partner Holyflare is getting shot already) or shooting VisceraEyes (who was often scumread and made one sentence saying he may or may not be blue) can be at all considered better than shooting ExO_ in this case.

Do others agree with this analysis?

I missed the blue hints from ExO_ but I'll take your word for it. I tend to agree that hitting blue!ExO_ is probably worth more than named-VT Onegu or lynchable VE.

So yeah, guess that's 3 down. LightningStrike, Onegu, raynpelikoneet, ?, ?

I feel like Superbia is definitely one of the other two. Last one... idk, Slam? I'm wrong on Breshke or sicklucker?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 02:23 GMT
#5178
On March 23 2015 11:18 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 11:09 Trfel wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot Onegu or VisceraEyes here. It doesn't make sense. And if you assume that Toadesstern is town, and that mafia didn't shoot Onegu or VisceraEyes, Onegu is basically confirmed mafia.

Raynpelikoneet's claim aside, any mafia reading the thread would realize that ExO_ was extremely likely to be a blue. He was leaving hints to being blue all over the place, and furthermore, I commented on it twice. It was kind of impossible to miss. I don't think shooting mason Onegu (when partner Holyflare is getting shot already) or shooting VisceraEyes (who was often scumread and made one sentence saying he may or may not be blue) can be at all considered better than shooting ExO_ in this case.

Do others agree with this analysis?

I missed the blue hints from ExO_ but I'll take your word for it. I tend to agree that hitting blue!ExO_ is probably worth more than named-VT Onegu or lynchable VE.

So yeah, guess that's 3 down. LightningStrike, Onegu, raynpelikoneet, ?, ?

I feel like Superbia is definitely one of the other two. Last one... idk, Slam? I'm wrong on Breshke or sicklucker?

Derp.

Last one is Palmar.

Slam town.

We can pack it in boys
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 02:23 GMT
#5179
Literally lynch in this order:

LightningStrike
raynpelikoneet
Onegu
Superbia
Palmar
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 02:28 GMT
#5181
On March 23 2015 11:26 Toadesstern wrote:
Put Palmar 4th. I want to have some to yell "told ya bitches" if I make it that far into the game

lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 02:52 GMT
#5187
On March 23 2015 11:39 Damdred wrote:
Actually its possible rayn is the scum obviously oneg is mason with someone and hf in retrospect left a last will in mason qt to be posted if he died or something crazy mafia wifom. And besides that you can't leave 100% confirmed townies alive it gives the thread to much to work with.

If oneg doesn't claim tommorow we either lynch him or orb him.

???
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 02:52 GMT
#5188
On March 23 2015 11:51 Trfel wrote:
Why do you expect Onegu to telling the truth after lying twice? Regardless of alignment.

presumably his partner will vindicate him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 03:01 GMT
#5190
On March 23 2015 12:00 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 11:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 23 2015 11:39 Damdred wrote:
Actually its possible rayn is the scum obviously oneg is mason with someone and hf in retrospect left a last will in mason qt to be posted if he died or something crazy mafia wifom. And besides that you can't leave 100% confirmed townies alive it gives the thread to much to work with.

If oneg doesn't claim tommorow we either lynch him or orb him.

???


Just speculation, if I'm dying and a mason id tell partner everything I wanted to say on my death. Im not hf and he's better than me but I'm always more hesitant when I'm alive than dead shrug

hf flipped vt...??? i don't follow what you're getting at here
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 03:04 GMT
#5194
ohhh i get it. shooting onegu to silence hf's final words

ehh not worth imo i don't think hf would have a big post to give only to his masonbro
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 03:15 GMT
#5198
On March 23 2015 12:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 11:18 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 23 2015 11:09 Trfel wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot Onegu or VisceraEyes here. It doesn't make sense. And if you assume that Toadesstern is town, and that mafia didn't shoot Onegu or VisceraEyes, Onegu is basically confirmed mafia.

Raynpelikoneet's claim aside, any mafia reading the thread would realize that ExO_ was extremely likely to be a blue. He was leaving hints to being blue all over the place, and furthermore, I commented on it twice. It was kind of impossible to miss. I don't think shooting mason Onegu (when partner Holyflare is getting shot already) or shooting VisceraEyes (who was often scumread and made one sentence saying he may or may not be blue) can be at all considered better than shooting ExO_ in this case.

Do others agree with this analysis?

I missed the blue hints from ExO_ but I'll take your word for it. I tend to agree that hitting blue!ExO_ is probably worth more than named-VT Onegu or lynchable VE.

So yeah, guess that's 3 down. LightningStrike, Onegu, raynpelikoneet, ?, ?

I feel like Superbia is definitely one of the other two. Last one... idk, Slam? I'm wrong on Breshke or sicklucker?


why is palmar town? the last-minute vote?

keep reading lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 04:00 GMT
#5208
On March 23 2015 12:53 Onegu wrote:
You dumb dumbs lynch me before Rayn. When I flip mason you lynch toad when he flips scum you lynch rsoul.

On March 23 2015 12:53 Onegu wrote:
And nope not claiming partner

On March 23 2015 12:58 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 12:53 Trfel wrote:
On March 23 2015 12:53 Onegu wrote:
You dumb dumbs lynch me before Rayn. When I flip mason you lynch toad when he flips scum you lynch rsoul.
Who are you mason with?

Why should we not lynch raynpelikoneet?



Soul read. Also I have been scum and mason with Rayn. I never do anything without getting an ok first. So if you think I would and we are scum together you are wrong.

i read all of this together as "policy lynch me d3"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 04:02 GMT
#5210
i give precisely this many fucks about info from a lynch:








































“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 04:03 GMT
#5212
i want you lynched because i pretty much don't at all believe that any competent mafia wastes kp on you when you literally aren't doing anything period
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 04:03 GMT
#5213
but we could get ray first if damdred would rather that cuz there's 0 way ray is actually tracker
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 04:07 GMT
#5216
On March 23 2015 13:06 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 13:03 Eden1892 wrote:
i want you lynched because i pretty much don't at all believe that any competent mafia wastes kp on you when you literally aren't doing anything period



Exactly!!!

So why would town rsoul protect me. So when I flip town it looks really bad on toad because of missing kp and rsoul because of same thing

but you won't, so.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 05:21 GMT
#5263
On March 23 2015 13:30 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 13:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2015 13:24 Onegu wrote:
I think you are scum and delivered the KP to VE so that shows if you were tracked. In order to explain the missing KP you claim JK on me. As it's kinda plausible but not really. You want HF dead so you explain you thought he wouldn't be shot for medic dodge.


okay

well, that's a nice conspiracy theory i guess?

so i assume that you also believe there is no jk in the game at all and i'm the godfather?



I don't believe a VT check on you. Hosts will never confirm btw as it confirms Edo if town or scum/dumb if wrong.

so your working theory at this point is that one scum who's been pretty townie this game fakeclaimed vig and in order to cover his tracks his partner who's also been pretty townie this game fakeclaimed jailkeeper and in order to cover her tracks a third scum fakeclaimed cop with a greencheck on the second

meanwhile the guy who hardclaimed tracker to his scumread when not under any pressure in the thread to claim is legit
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 05:29 GMT
#5268
On March 23 2015 14:25 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 14:21 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 23 2015 13:30 Onegu wrote:
On March 23 2015 13:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2015 13:24 Onegu wrote:
I think you are scum and delivered the KP to VE so that shows if you were tracked. In order to explain the missing KP you claim JK on me. As it's kinda plausible but not really. You want HF dead so you explain you thought he wouldn't be shot for medic dodge.


okay

well, that's a nice conspiracy theory i guess?

so i assume that you also believe there is no jk in the game at all and i'm the godfather?



I don't believe a VT check on you. Hosts will never confirm btw as it confirms Edo if town or scum/dumb if wrong.

so your working theory at this point is that one scum who's been pretty townie this game fakeclaimed vig and in order to cover his tracks his partner who's also been pretty townie this game fakeclaimed jailkeeper and in order to cover her tracks a third scum fakeclaimed cop with a greencheck on the second

meanwhile the guy who hardclaimed tracker to his scumread when not under any pressure in the thread to claim is legit



Yes, since when does rayns claims make.sense

is that a general argument being implied? (i.e. "ray normally doesn't make sense with his claims") because otherwise i don't understand what i'm being asked

and if that is the question i hardly see the pertinence since it's not the main point at all. that theory is whack and frankly looks designed more to spread doubt about the claims than it is designed to find the truth

putting the last bit another way: how on earth do you intend to go about demonstrate this theory
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 05:40 GMT
#5274
On March 23 2015 14:32 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 14:29 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 23 2015 14:25 Onegu wrote:
On March 23 2015 14:21 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 23 2015 13:30 Onegu wrote:
On March 23 2015 13:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2015 13:24 Onegu wrote:
I think you are scum and delivered the KP to VE so that shows if you were tracked. In order to explain the missing KP you claim JK on me. As it's kinda plausible but not really. You want HF dead so you explain you thought he wouldn't be shot for medic dodge.


okay

well, that's a nice conspiracy theory i guess?

so i assume that you also believe there is no jk in the game at all and i'm the godfather?



I don't believe a VT check on you. Hosts will never confirm btw as it confirms Edo if town or scum/dumb if wrong.

so your working theory at this point is that one scum who's been pretty townie this game fakeclaimed vig and in order to cover his tracks his partner who's also been pretty townie this game fakeclaimed jailkeeper and in order to cover her tracks a third scum fakeclaimed cop with a greencheck on the second

meanwhile the guy who hardclaimed tracker to his scumread when not under any pressure in the thread to claim is legit



Yes, since when does rayns claims make.sense

is that a general argument being implied? (i.e. "ray normally doesn't make sense with his claims") because otherwise i don't understand what i'm being asked

and if that is the question i hardly see the pertinence since it's not the main point at all. that theory is whack and frankly looks designed more to spread doubt about the claims than it is designed to find the truth

putting the last bit another way: how on earth do you intend to go about demonstrate this theory

apparently him flipping town proves that rsoultin and I are mafia because we can no longer hold to our theory that mafia shot mafia!Onegu. Thus Onegu being town shows that KP is missing

Once he flipped town we lynch into either me or rsoulting according to him

so you're vigging him tonight right
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 05:41 GMT
#5275
do we still have like 17 hours left til flip? eesh
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 05:51 GMT
#5277
he's making shit up cuz he's mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:19 GMT
#5300
sorry i'm around, phone interview for a job in roughly 8 hrs. reading up on some basic interview pitfalls so they're fresh in my head and i don't fuck up spectacularly
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:22 GMT
#5301
the great thing is i found this list of good questions to ask and b/c it's a phone interview i can literally just copy the ones that i'm actually interested in from the list
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:28 GMT
#5304
On March 23 2015 15:23 Onegu wrote:
We have decided to claim 20min to deadline N2

cool
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:29 GMT
#5305
if you could also give me a timeline for when you two intend to start trying to find mafia that'd be great
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:35 GMT
#5310
On March 23 2015 15:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 15:22 Eden1892 wrote:
the great thing is i found this list of good questions to ask and b/c it's a phone interview i can literally just copy the ones that i'm actually interested in from the list


weeeellll

>>

i interview spectacularly xP so just channel your inner rsoul!

more seriously, i think just being open and honest works best? lol you don't want to sound like you're reading a speech in front of the class or reciting bedtime prayers xP

i tend to think i interview ok, but i'm aware that this interview is gonna be far more legit than any interview i've had to handle for a while. open and honest is the principle
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:41 GMT
#5312
+ Show Spoiler +
i'm not really worried much about it. i'm hungry and i know it. it's gonna shine through. some of the stuff i'm sweatin is hr nonsense that i don't have to worry about cuz i'm sufficiently empathetic as to understand what sounds bad and what doesn't
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:42 GMT
#5314
On March 23 2015 15:38 Toadesstern wrote:
just don't be like Caller. He walked up to interview at amazon and was like "yup I can totally program, havn't done it in 3 years but shouldn't be a problem" so they gave him a task to do something in one of the two programming languages he can do and he obviously had no idea what to do

so don't apply for something i'm not qualified to do? got it boss
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:44 GMT
#5316
On March 23 2015 15:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 15:42 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 23 2015 15:38 Toadesstern wrote:
just don't be like Caller. He walked up to interview at amazon and was like "yup I can totally program, havn't done it in 3 years but shouldn't be a problem" so they gave him a task to do something in one of the two programming languages he can do and he obviously had no idea what to do

so don't apply for something i'm not qualified to do? got it boss

no I don't think it had anything to do with that. He just mentioned it in his CV and was apparently a little braggart

joke's on them i didn't put any concrete skills in my resume
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:45 GMT
#5317
#MillennialProbz
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:47 GMT
#5319
>anybody is still reading this monstrosity
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:48 GMT
#5321
i might hit 5k this game

depends on whether or not they rb rsoultin
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 06:56 GMT
#5325
On March 23 2015 15:50 Toadesstern wrote:
speaking of which.

I TOTALLY HAVE MORE BULLETS



go on
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 16:28 GMT
#5394
On March 24 2015 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis why am i not in your town list?

Your tracker claim seems bogus
A real tracker don't care what scum reads think as long as he knows it
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 16:57 GMT
#5413
Why track them when it wouldn't give any new info unless they're both mafia and bad?

Why did you hard claim to your big scumread at the time?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 17:11 GMT
#5428
Excuse me ray I need my q answered. Why did you hard claim to one of your biggest scumreads?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 17:25 GMT
#5448
On March 24 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 02:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Excuse me ray I need my q answered. Why did you hard claim to one of your biggest scumreads?

I didn't claim "to one of my biggest scumreads".
wtf?

Lol you claimed to rsoultin on the spot after calling her scum repeatedly and then called her scum right after claiming. Plz.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 17:43 GMT
#5461
On March 24 2015 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 02:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 24 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2015 02:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Excuse me ray I need my q answered. Why did you hard claim to one of your biggest scumreads?

I didn't claim "to one of my biggest scumreads".
wtf?

Lol you claimed to rsoultin on the spot after calling her scum repeatedly and then called her scum right after claiming. Plz.

I claimed because i was pissed off for people making fucked up reads that make no sense on me like in Titanic.
Sue me.

No I get that for why you claimed blue. But your scumread literally said "hard claim or I won't accept it." Why care about a suspect making nonsense reads on you, let alone enough to claim your exact role to your alleged mafia?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 17:54 GMT
#5465
On March 24 2015 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 02:43 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 24 2015 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2015 02:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 24 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2015 02:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Excuse me ray I need my q answered. Why did you hard claim to one of your biggest scumreads?

I didn't claim "to one of my biggest scumreads".
wtf?

Lol you claimed to rsoultin on the spot after calling her scum repeatedly and then called her scum right after claiming. Plz.

I claimed because i was pissed off for people making fucked up reads that make no sense on me like in Titanic.
Sue me.

No I get that for why you claimed blue. But your scumread literally said "hard claim or I won't accept it." Why care about a suspect making nonsense reads on you, let alone enough to claim your exact role to your alleged mafia?

BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH THE LAST GAME SCUM LEAD A LYNCH ON ME FOR RETARDED SHIT WHEN I CAUGHT ALL THE MAFIA!

But this isn't that game. Not the same town or circumstances...

Sorry I'm just not following. It remains weird to me. I have a lot of time to figure it out.

You may have answered this already, so work with me if I missed it - what's your working theory for why Toad would fakeclaim?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 19:49 GMT
#5513
On March 24 2015 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pro tip vivax:
Mafia is:

Lightningstrike - cop checked
Toadesstern - terrible read with no substance
Superbia - terrible read with no substance
ExO - claims cop with rolecop result
one of Artanis / rsoultin. - one of them is just dumb.

Your ExO_ read is outdated and I really doubt either of the last 2 are mafia :/
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 20:38 GMT
#5535
On March 24 2015 05:03 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 12:18 Half the Sky wrote:
The Infinity Orb is a special mechanic to aid the Nova Corps and the forces of good against the forces of evil.
Raynpelikoneet, it's effectively cleared right here. This is a quote from the rules, the Infinity Orb section, where the town is referred to as the Nova Corps (the same name as the vanilla town).

!!!!!
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 20:40 GMT
#5539
On March 24 2015 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Nobody here played the prerelease? Where my MTG buddies at.

Got the Dromoka box at midnight Saturday

...

...

...

Went on to build a Kolaghan deck and go 2-1
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 20:41 GMT
#5540
On March 24 2015 05:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Superbia is there any reason you're not posting baby seals yet?

mtg posting is glorified baby seals when i'm running the show
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 20:46 GMT
#5546
On March 24 2015 04:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 04:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2015 04:49 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 24 2015 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pro tip vivax:
Mafia is:

Lightningstrike - cop checked
Toadesstern - terrible read with no substance
Superbia - terrible read with no substance
ExO - claims cop with rolecop result
one of Artanis / rsoultin. - one of them is just dumb.

Your ExO_ read is outdated and I really doubt either of the last 2 are mafia :/

I don't see anywhere where the host have cleared this, otherwise he is scum.


the host won't, rayn

that said, eden...much as i think that was one of the most awkward thing for scum to do ever and terrible timing given LightningStrike's concession...

i can't think of a reason to townread ExO_ outside the awkwardness

we're basically going with the too dumb to be scum defense X100

Not quite.

(1) LS's concession has nothing to do with how good/bad his play would have been as mafia.
(2) The play would be even dumber for mafia to make than town. ExO_ misreading his role and getting too drunk on the hero play conspiracy Kool-Aid to realize his play was wrong is plausible. ExO_ fakeclaiming to try to get you lynched and claiming greencheck (with the idea that you're godfather) instead of redcheck is just not plausible from a mafia mindset. If you're thinking "fakeclaim cop to lynch X" then your mind doesn't jump to "claim greencheck and push godfather theory," it jumps to "claim redcheck."

Has nothing to do with "too dumb to be scum" here
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 20:52 GMT
#5554
On March 24 2015 05:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 05:40 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 24 2015 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Nobody here played the prerelease? Where my MTG buddies at.

Got the Dromoka box at midnight Saturday

...

...

...

Went on to build a Kolaghan deck and go 2-1


Any good draws?

2x Dromoka's Command
1x Dragonlord Atarka
1x Descent of Dragons
1x Ojutai, Soul of Winter
1x Necromaster Dragon
2x Roast

All I really remember lol. Still pretty hype
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 20:53 GMT
#5555
On March 24 2015 05:50 sicklucker wrote:
and were not lynchiing rayn were killing super TORMOROW . Rayn is super passionate and makes horrible town claims everygame and he did push 3 people I believe to be mafiamafia (ls, super, toad)

And supers here making excuses for his inactivity (WHICH IS WHAT HE DID THE ENTIRE GAME HE SOLOED AS MAFIA ) while not scum reading any mafia

this is correct
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 20:53 GMT
#5557
On March 24 2015 05:52 sicklucker wrote:
Like artanis if you give up its gonna be on day1 when you have no time invested. Now that you have time invested and were not pushed on day 1 your never giving up do you agree?

this otoh is bad
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 21:07 GMT
#5578
On March 24 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 06:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2015 06:01 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2015 05:58 Superbia wrote:
LS, if you hard defend me here you secure the miss lynch tomorrow. #Protips

How to answer this?


You probably shouldn't. You might confirm me as something. Let's keep talking.

Would be interested in giving us a theoretical mafia team?

I am confirmed Mafia because of my baby seals but why would anyone want to kill cute baby seals? BTW I wont tell you a team

EBWOP: I mean you guys god my grammar is so bad T_T

i have a hilarious theory that this is a slip and superbia is mafia for this post

ls first addresses this specifically to superbia, then feels the need to go back and correct it to a plural, including superbia as part of a group being addressed; the post is playfully adversarial indicating that group is town

the fact that ls needed to go back and correct this means that superbia is mafia

gottem boys sheep this d3
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 21:09 GMT
#5583
On March 24 2015 06:09 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 06:07 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 24 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2015 06:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2015 06:01 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2015 05:58 Superbia wrote:
LS, if you hard defend me here you secure the miss lynch tomorrow. #Protips

How to answer this?


You probably shouldn't. You might confirm me as something. Let's keep talking.

Would be interested in giving us a theoretical mafia team?

I am confirmed Mafia because of my baby seals but why would anyone want to kill cute baby seals? BTW I wont tell you a team

EBWOP: I mean you guys god my grammar is so bad T_T

i have a hilarious theory that this is a slip and superbia is mafia for this post

ls first addresses this specifically to superbia, then feels the need to go back and correct it to a plural, including superbia as part of a group being addressed; the post is playfully adversarial indicating that group is town

the fact that ls needed to go back and correct this means that superbia is mafia

gottem boys sheep this d3


It's interesting that we each reached a completely different conclusion from the same post.

no it isn't
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 21:13 GMT
#5587
On March 24 2015 06:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Eden is there anyone you're >95% certain on being town that isn't in my list?

presuming exo is still on there, i don't think so

and i'm actually not willing to move ff down at this time. he tends to go afk sporadically so i don't think it means anything either way. his body of work still seems implausibly difficult for him to have put together as mafia to me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 21:15 GMT
#5590
i am starting to think about the vig claimants again... but it's so fuckin difficult to see either of them as mafia. i still don't get why on earth toad would fake a cc like he did. like you could theoretically argue that we're making it a safe play by interpreting it the way we are, but it would take some pretty big cajones to assume that's how it would work out and fake cc
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 21:16 GMT
#5591
and yea vivax is on like p30 or something of his filter. lol @ him being mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 21:17 GMT
#5594
scuse me. 27.

having 2 drax's is hella weird flavor-wise since iirc drax isn't known for having duplicates... but hell this is marvel universe who tf knows
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:15 GMT
#5614
well, i for one respect damdred's capacity to be a skrong indepedet postr who dont need no postcount

and i also townread him for content because when i did my own analysis it was pretty much 100% the same conclusion as his
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:23 GMT
#5616
On March 24 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote:
Jesus I just played the hardest game of my life.

I'll try to pretend to be useful in this one tomorrow.

no excuses, i went hard as fuck in both of them and you can too

prove your towniness so we can roll again
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:30 GMT
#5620
On March 24 2015 07:29 Damdred wrote:
Always tomorrow and never today with Palmar .

+1

Imma be hones i'm prolly plynching palmar at some point if tomorrow he doesn't make an epic town case titled "Part 4: The Redemption"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:44 GMT
#5625
On March 24 2015 07:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 07:30 Vivax wrote:
On March 24 2015 07:29 Damdred wrote:
Always tomorrow and never today with Palmar .


I just read the end of that game, willing to give the poor Plammar some time, he must be really exhausted from all that winning.


dibs on snoop
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:46 GMT
#5626
actually i take that back

as the only actual Southern player for town in that game, dibs on Luda
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:47 GMT
#5627
palmar is dj khaled. he's not actually doing anything you can see but you'd never win without him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:48 GMT
#5630
On March 24 2015 07:47 Damdred wrote:
tinfoil hat of the day. LS flips RB, Trfel used the orb on Vivax and blocked him and is actualy scum.

orb doesn't rb i thought
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:48 GMT
#5631
oh my b 4th mode
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 22:50 GMT
#5633
yup im retarded

i'll considering entertaining this idea in aboooout... 11 minutes
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:03 GMT
#5645
trfel town confirmed

On March 24 2015 08:00 ritoky wrote:
hi everyone. i don't plan to read the previous 281 pages. if there is very relevant cases i need to read or people are confirmed town, can someone please quote or give me that information.

also i don't know shit about guardians of the galaxy, but i am guessing i am vt? gonna check the op when i get home from the store.

what is your role
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:03 GMT
#5647
like role name. i can explain the rest
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:05 GMT
#5653
trfel confirmed rocket

onegu confirmed groot

gottem boyz
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:05 GMT
#5654
On March 24 2015 08:04 Palmar wrote:
We got him guys!

I'm really townie now for voting mafia, right?

l o l
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:07 GMT
#5656
watch the video
it's like u guys dont even read tha flavur
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:09 GMT
#5658
rocket went apeshit on a kree and whooped its ass
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:33 GMT
#5673
No one is permitted to discuss night actions directed at ritoky until I say so.*

ritoky, what is your role?


(*: if after the next I haven't said so, disregard this)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:35 GMT
#5675
rsoultin should jail me because I'm a great shot by the mafia and I have no role with which to be interfered. Just my incredibly biased opinion
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:36 GMT
#5676
On March 24 2015 08:34 Vivax wrote:
ritoky is town for instaclaiming vanilla imo

If it can be avoided let's please not discuss the ramifications of ritoky's claim until he claims for me. I'd like to minimize the influence of any lurking variables on his answer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:40 GMT
#5680
On March 24 2015 08:38 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Seriously IF YOU HAVE THE ORB HIT RITOKY WITH IT.


are you trying to swag on me?

your reaction to me subbing in puzzles me. it's some meta shit about rayn which idgaf abt. why would you base a read on that when you have such a good read on me? that seems really fucking odd.

also do we have no 100% confirmed town? i would like to sheep them until i have firm bearings.

Hey jabroni, claim your role to The Rock immediately.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:40 GMT
#5681
On March 24 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
God no eden would you rather, rsoultin claim who hes jailing a few seconds before day break and a kp be missing and we know who a scum is, or rs dies to try to block a save on you

shh only mindgames now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:41 GMT
#5684
On March 24 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
i already claimed?

it was colored green, i didn't get a list of actions or results, and no description. i am assuming that on those grounds it is VT, regardless of the random name it was given.

What's the random name it was given?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:43 GMT
#5689
OK, we can discuss night actions around ritoky now. Thanks for your cooperation guys.

I say we orb him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:43 GMT
#5693
On March 24 2015 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
With the speed he claimed that it might actually be true, though he probably already looked it up at the time he claimed vt.

He had time to look it up, the fact that he stalled and called it a "random" green name makes me think he did.

Orb him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:45 GMT
#5697
On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.

Hella interesting that you picked out one vig but not the other. Elaborate
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:09 GMT
#5719
On March 24 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.

There's no one that's "confirmed" as in greenchecked or anything like that. Here's where I'm at.
100% Confirmed Town
Me.
99.99% Confirmed Town
Vivax
Toadesstern
Trfel
Eden1892
Rsoultin
99% Confirmed Town
Exo
Damdred
95% Confirmed Town
FecalFeast


could you please separate this a bit for me? could you tell me which ones are from claims/checks and which ones are from vote logic/reads. cuz i think you're town as of now, but i don't really know shit about this game yet or give credence to your reads

This is what you need to know bro.

No one is actually confirmed town. But:

- Trfel claimed with the orb d2, after having used it to track LightningStrike to Holyflare's body. No one cc'd orb, Holyflare was indeed killed n1, LS flipped goon when he was lynched d2. Trfel is almost certainly town in any conceivable universe.
- I am The Rock this game. You can trust The Rock.
- rsoultin is town because (a) I said so and I'm never wrong on her, (b) she claimed jailer and (c) ExO_ scanned her town.
- ExO_ is town because he claimed cop in a way that basically has to make him town. He thought he was a role cop and outed with a "role" scan on rsoultin of "Nova Corps," when in fact he got an alignment scan on rsoultin of "Nova Corps." He outed because he believed rsoultin was lying about her claim and put forth the theory that she was the godfather. He was under no real pressure in the thread to claim. So he's probably town.
- Vivax and Toadesstern both claimed vig. Vivax was the original claimant and has been very townie, with something close to 30 pg filter after 2 days, most of it full of game-solving. Toadesstern cc'd Vivax when he didn't have to, tried hard (but unsuccessfully) to get Vivax lynched, and has also been trying to solve things when he's been around (albeit he's been a little underwhelming in this respect compared to his partner). Both of them are very likely town.
- Damdred has been working hard and making big, good analysis posts so he's town.
- Fecalfeast's only really large effort this game was busing the hell out of LS if FF is mafia, so FF is likely town.
- Artanis is just pretty townie man I'm tired at the end of this list and not feeling like explaining more lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:11 GMT
#5721
INB4 Onegu and ray/ritoky are masons.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:11 GMT
#5722
sicklucker do you agree with my and artanis's mondo townreads list
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:13 GMT
#5727
On March 24 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.

There's no one that's "confirmed" as in greenchecked or anything like that. Here's where I'm at.
100% Confirmed Town
Me.
99.99% Confirmed Town
Vivax
Toadesstern
Trfel
Eden1892
Rsoultin
99% Confirmed Town
Exo
Damdred
95% Confirmed Town
FecalFeast


could you please separate this a bit for me? could you tell me which ones are from claims/checks and which ones are from vote logic/reads. cuz i think you're town as of now, but i don't really know shit about this game yet or give credence to your reads


Most are just there reads tbh. Its kind of absurd to say tref/toad/vivax/dandred/exo/eden area all confirmed with sketchy claims or no claims at all. I would bet my left nut 1 or 2 of them are acualy mafia

you have to be a mason with onegu and can't actually believe this
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#5730
everyone including the mafia should probably just ignore sicklucker trying to wifom the nightkills by pretending to doubt the claims until he realizes that he's not actually making pro plays
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#5735
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
but i want sicklucker's nut?

i have a display case somewhere...that or i can just have it stuffed and give it to the cat to play with ^^

-poofing again bad rsoul-[/QUOTE[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 09:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.[/QUOTE]
There's no one that's "confirmed" as in greenchecked or anything like that. Here's where I'm at.
100% Confirmed Town
Me.
99.99% Confirmed Town
Vivax
Toadesstern
Trfel
Eden1892
Rsoultin
99% Confirmed Town
Exo
Damdred
95% Confirmed Town
FecalFeast[/QUOTE]

could you please separate this a bit for me? could you tell me which ones are from claims/checks and which ones are from vote logic/reads. cuz i think you're town as of now, but i don't really know shit about this game yet or give credence to your reads[/QUOTE]

Most are just there reads tbh. Its kind of absurd to say tref/toad/vivax/dandred/exo/eden area all confirmed with sketchy claims or no claims at all. I would bet my left nut 1 or 2 of them are acualy mafia[/QUOTE]
Call.[/QUOTE]
congrats to both of you for claiming dibs to a middle schooler's left nut
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:17 GMT
#5736
there's a fucked up quote tag in there somewhere but idgaf
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:17 GMT
#5737
changed my mind I found it and it's bothering me

On March 24 2015 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
but i want sicklucker's nut?

i have a display case somewhere...that or i can just have it stuffed and give it to the cat to play with ^^

-poofing again bad rsoul-
On March 24 2015 09:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.

There's no one that's "confirmed" as in greenchecked or anything like that. Here's where I'm at.
100% Confirmed Town
Me.
99.99% Confirmed Town
Vivax
Toadesstern
Trfel
Eden1892
Rsoultin
99% Confirmed Town
Exo
Damdred
95% Confirmed Town
FecalFeast


could you please separate this a bit for me? could you tell me which ones are from claims/checks and which ones are from vote logic/reads. cuz i think you're town as of now, but i don't really know shit about this game yet or give credence to your reads


Most are just there reads tbh. Its kind of absurd to say tref/toad/vivax/dandred/exo/eden area all confirmed with sketchy claims or no claims at all. I would bet my left nut 1 or 2 of them are acualy mafia

Call.

congrats to both of you for claiming dibs to a middle schooler's left nut
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 02:44 GMT
#5755
On March 24 2015 11:44 rsoultin wrote:
oh btw...the measure i was using to read rayn by in XXX when i caught him day 1

is the same one i was using here...

i just couldn't say that till the game was over lol ><

that or you know my read is wrong and he just happened to be scum that game...regardless...

-slips back into the fade-

well since it might have worked, elaborate for me. i didn't think ray was suspicious at all d1 like you or marv did so it might help here
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 03:25 GMT
#5759
On March 24 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote:
No clue onegu....

Anyway Eden, part of it was how BM rayn was when he was here compared to his most recent mafia showing. And his most recent town showing (mini mafia by fecal feast) he was much more balanced in that game than in XXX or in this game.

He also started fights for no reason with Palmar here and myself in XXX. And his read progression in this one and XXX was hard to follow at points as well.


I can see it

I also felt like ritoky's opening was really suspicious tbh. He's hella uptight this game. When he's town he's a total bro this game not so much thus far. And I really think the way he said "randomly named green role" betrays him not actually having the name of the VT role in his role PM. I dunno how convincingly I can argue this but it's just a weird way to say he's VT

On March 24 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
i already claimed?

it was colored green, i didn't get a list of actions or results, and no description. i am assuming that on those grounds it is VT, regardless of the random name it was given.


I can't 100% confirm this or anything obviously but this just screams "I'm fakeclaiming but I haven't read the OP yet so I don't know the name of the VT role." Like if you were actually a green role and people were telling you to claim and you didn't know whether it was VT or not, you'd just say the name and go from there. Yeah?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:08 GMT
#5762
Lynch list right now:

1a) ritoky
1b) Superbia
3a) Alakaslam
3b) Palmar
3c) Onegu

Depending on Onegu's mason claim and whatnot.

This feels too easy somehow though :/
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:13 GMT
#5763
I need a volunteer.

Here's LightningStrike's mondo reads list from d1. I've taken the liberty of including line breaks because seriously LS bro get your shit together

Also went ahead and colored in the flips. Feel free to color code your version as you wish.

Go through this with me and figure out some weird shit that points to mafia.
On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:56 Damdred wrote:
Ls what are your current reads

Town:

Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX.

rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT She also my whisper so listen to her on me.

Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :|

Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh.

Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again).

Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time.

Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him.

Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial.

Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker.

Null:

Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read.

Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia.

raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o

Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious.

Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh.

Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him.

sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him.

Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :|

Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post!
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:21 GMT
#5764
The first thing I'm seeing is that I think LS tmi'd Breshke town. I looked at all 7 posts Breshke made and while it is my impression that they were more likely to be town!Breshke than mafia!Breshke, it's not outside of his mafia range to make a single decent read on Alakaslam/sicklucker and do nothing else. I think LS overestimated how townie Breshke's play looked at the time and decided to put him in the town pile a little prematurely.

Plus the fact that he had no scumreads probably means he wasn't feeling safe calling somebody mafia yet. That mindset would also seem to favor overestimating how townie townies look.

I'll be honest I'm really hoping Onegu and sicklucker are actually masons together. Pretty sure you can just lynch all of LS's nulls that haven't absolutely bled town all over the thread after we burn Superbia and call it a day.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:36 GMT
#5771
On March 24 2015 13:32 Toadesstern wrote:
sup I'm back o/

What did I miss except for obvious mafia flipping mafia?

Congrats on your sleep schedule

ray ragequit after dropping a tight game in XXX Mini (despite a brilliant performance, seriously), ritoky replaced in and is pretty much mafia IMO. Go read my stuff on ritoky and decide for yourself though, I'm at my best when people are showing me where I'm wrong.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:37 GMT
#5772
On March 24 2015 13:35 ritoky wrote:
is it weird that I don't like either damdred or eden as town and everyone is telling me they are confirmed?

your team is about 120 hours too late on the disruption strategy

a for effort tho
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:59 GMT
#5787
On March 24 2015 13:53 ritoky wrote:
more people should answer this

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?


why don't you share your findings with the class first
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:08 GMT
#5789
why aren't you engaging breshke about this instead of trfel? breshke's the one who's actually a question mark relatively speaking
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:10 GMT
#5792
not trying to be antagonistic here but quite honestly this doesn't look like it's going anywhere

I'm really sympathetic to the fact that you replaced some 285 pages in but I'm also gonna be a bit of a stick in the mud about your questions if I don't like them cuz I think you're mafia

so please orient your efforts toward something more productive TIA
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:11 GMT
#5794
**this = ritoky's question(s) about orb
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:13 GMT
#5795
On March 24 2015 14:11 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:
why aren't you engaging breshke about this instead of trfel? breshke's the one who's actually a question mark relatively speaking


are you just trying to throw scum on me?

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2015 09:40 Breshke wrote:
On March 24 2015 09:37 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2015 09:36 Breshke wrote:
On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?


Most lukely bullshutting. Dont think its allighnment indicitive for him though


so you don't believe he has it? what motivation do you think he has for claiming it while not having it? do you have reason to believe he doesn't?


Because he recently talked about how he likes the wifom play. I also believe town SL with the orb would go for gliry and not try pull a roleblock.

Motivation for town SL without orb is to try pull a Rb or nk which is very unlikely.

Motivation for mafia Sl is to make it look like he is tryong to do a play which he says he likes as town.

I can see it either way


pretty sure this dude is town pile for now. this is an incredibly reasonable read.


already did.

breshke is more town than you are imo, by quite a bit.

my town is me + artanis + breshke + all the role people. is that auto?

that's not engaging breshke that's giving him a free townread for saying something pretty obvious

sicklucker claiming the orb means precisely sweet fuck all rn

so congrats on patting breshke on the back for concluding that the event you're asking about is inconclusive?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:15 GMT
#5797
god I fucking hate replacements this late in a game. it's not their fault that they can't anticipate games blowing up like this, but if you aren't going to follow the game no matter how big it gets why the fuck are you on the replacement list to begin with?

this isn't directed solely at you either, ritoky. i basically had to 100% read fecalfeast in xxx mini off of my last feelings on damdred for most of the time ff was in the game

this is the 3rd time i've seen it happen in high-volume games and it's just a clusterfuck
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:16 GMT
#5799
On March 24 2015 14:14 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 14:10 Eden1892 wrote:
not trying to be antagonistic here but quite honestly this doesn't look like it's going anywhere

I'm really sympathetic to the fact that you replaced some 285 pages in but I'm also gonna be a bit of a stick in the mud about your questions if I don't like them cuz I think you're mafia

so please orient your efforts toward something more productive TIA


like no offense, but you're being a giant dick in general. you're shitting on every question I am trying to raise. it really demotivates me from trying when I sub in late being a decent guy, get VT, try to start getting reads, and 1 guy is just sitting there shitting on you at every turn.

if you're town you need to get yourself to a place where you understand I am VT. if not, keep doing what you're doing cuz it is making me want to try less and less.

pretty much your reaction to the exact same situation in the last game vs this game makes it obvious to me you are a role or mafia. I don't know which, but there's not many roles left to be claimed?

not trying to be, i'm pissed off that ray apparently fakeclaimed tracker and then peaced out without explaining himself and now i'm left with no way to be fair to you

you cannot possibly reasonably ask me to just understand you're VT when your predecessor was scum as fuck for 285 fucking pages
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:16 GMT
#5800
On March 24 2015 14:15 Toadesstern wrote:
wait, you're VT? I thought rayn was tracker

.____________________________________________________.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:19 GMT
#5803
ritoky, here's what i want you to understand about your slot right now, and why i'm frustrated with it and clueless as to how i'm supposed to read you based only on your actions.

your slot:
- claimed blue under no pressure from the thread
- hardclaimed tracker to its top scumread at the time
- got unreasonably pissed at people who suspected it, ever
- didn't try especially hard, relative to the other players in the game, to solve the game

and apparently now we learn the claim was definitely fake too. and you claimed vt in a really scummy way. and even though you're cool tr'ing basically everyone else in the town circle, you're somehow deciding it's a good idea to throw garbage at the guy who's done by far the most this game to actually organize that circle

like how the fuck am i supposed to think you're town from this? help me help you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:19 GMT
#5804
On March 24 2015 14:18 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 14:16 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 24 2015 14:15 Toadesstern wrote:
wait, you're VT? I thought rayn was tracker

.____________________________________________________.

did I just ruin some big play or is that about me not reading? :/

about not reading, lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:24 GMT
#5806
On March 24 2015 14:20 rsoultin wrote:
hey ritoky remember carol? lol

what should those of us who weren't in it and don't feel like reading another 6k posts know about carol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:27 GMT
#5810
We don't need to lynch ritoky tomorrow. In fact, I don't want to. I would much rather lynch Superbia. I feel like ritoky is wasting time with his questions right now but I'll grant him a cycle to prove himself. Superbia's had two cycles, was pretty okay before town started getting organized but has done sweet fuck all since town got its shit together d2.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:31 GMT
#5812
oh, lol

ok then
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:42 GMT
#5819
On March 24 2015 14:37 Breshke wrote:
LS seems to ask palmar a lot of questions throughout the day yet never actually comes to a conclusion on him. That is until N1 happens and he seems to be building up to scum read him because of the BM switch

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 00:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 22 2015 00:06 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 23:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:59 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 21 2015 22:49 Vivax wrote:
LS who are your scumreads atm? Palmar and rayn and?

Those are my 100% based on the switches there maybe a 1% chance that Holyflare is Mafia with Onegu even though they claimed Mason but that would be dumb for them to claim Mason so early. Rsoultin said that ExO could be potental Mafia and so did you but I never played with Mafia!ExO yet so I can be wong on ExO's alignment (Shrugs).


You are 100 % sure that Palmar and rayn are scum?

And the other 3? What about me?

100% one of them is Mafia based on switches alone in my mind at least. HF and Onegu is like 1% Mafia but they were under no pressure to claim Mason. Rayn is the unCCed Tracker idk why he claimed at the time he did but he is the unCCed Tracker.


You still didn't say what you think about me now, cause that's important given that I don't know why you see the switching as scummy. Is it scummy to switch from town to town or from mafia to town?

Their reasons for switching is scummy that what I mean -_- Palmar never really mentioned BM in his filter at all and so did Rayn as far I remember reading their filters.


This feels really iffy if they are both mafia because LS wasn't really pushing much else if i recall. I don't remember is LS is prone to bussing either but i do know if palmar is mafia I think he would very likely tell his mafia partners to townread each other and I think LS would listen to him.

man, if Palmar is mafia, the QT probably looks like the streets of Carthage right now

This is a hella good set of observations. I'd definitely believe that Palmar would tell his team to TR each other; iirc he's big on that in general (he made a big point of it in Titanic scum QT), and he just got finished watching a game where scum bused the fuck out of each other til the end and came up short for it. And I'd also believe LS would do what Palmar says. LS wouldn't be married to any reads by that point and strikes me as a team player.

I'm just worried about what that means for my list. Unless you're mafia spewing tmi right now, I got a big problem to resolve later.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:46 GMT
#5820
On March 24 2015 14:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 14:19 Eden1892 wrote:
ritoky, here's what i want you to understand about your slot right now, and why i'm frustrated with it and clueless as to how i'm supposed to read you based only on your actions.

your slot:
- claimed blue under no pressure from the thread
- hardclaimed tracker to its top scumread at the time
- got unreasonably pissed at people who suspected it, ever
- didn't try especially hard, relative to the other players in the game, to solve the game

and apparently now we learn the claim was definitely fake too. and you claimed vt in a really scummy way. and even though you're cool tr'ing basically everyone else in the town circle, you're somehow deciding it's a good idea to throw garbage at the guy who's done by far the most this game to actually organize that circle

like how the fuck am i supposed to think you're town from this? help me help you


- rayn claims as VT to push someone he has a 95+% scum read on sometimes. I think it is stupid and as mafia I got him ML'd for it once, but he does it because he is into big plays like that for whatever reason. was he the one who did it in XXX with the fake cc on his teammate day 1? I guess he is capable as both alignments if that was him.

- rayn is an asshole

- he was tryharding like mad as mafia in the other game, I would guess that has something to do with his effort level here?

those are the best answers to those points I can give you at this point.

- He is inclined to do that, and he's capable of it as both alignments (your recollection is correct), but it's not that he fakeclaimed to push someone. That's not what happened. He claimed for no purpose when Toad cc'd Vivax as vig, hardclaimed tracker when his scumread rsoultin demanded it, and then didn't push anybody really hard from that point onward.
- lol. I'm not sure he's an asshole but if you're saying it's not alignment-indicative... maybe
- He really wasn't though. Or at least not after I flipped. He kinda coasted the last day and imo that's probably what hurt him most. So he coasted at the end of that game and he's not doing anything in here...

And I mean, yeah. I hear ya. I don't expect you to account for all the scummy things ray did in the 285 pages before you popped in. I'm giving you a cycle to show me I was wrong about your slot. That should be enough time even with me being a hardass about questions I don't think are going anywhere. You cool with that?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 06:43 GMT
#5853
On March 24 2015 15:12 sicklucker wrote:
Like I honestly believe you guys just refuse to townread me out of spite.. Im not sure if its because I rolled mafia 5 or 6 times inarow or I annoy the shit out of you but you guys really refuse to ever townread me.

Its been 3month since I been townread in a game

you are beyond ridiculous considering i'm literally tr'ing you for 48 hours straight now
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 06:44 GMT
#5855
On March 24 2015 15:17 ritoky wrote:
@eden if you're town, you should lynch the person you think is most mafia. if that is my slot, then you're wrong, but people can be wrong. i am a sub and that sucks because of how the person before me played, but don't give me slack for it. just try to judge my play, make a read, and if i am still the most scum then try to lynch me.

That's the plan bro. You're #2 on my list right now so you got time to adjust your position.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 06:45 GMT
#5856
On March 24 2015 15:14 sicklucker wrote:
Yep im smurfing next game

I would be stunned if you found a way not to get found out by eod1.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 06:47 GMT
#5857
On March 24 2015 15:39 sicklucker wrote:
Rstoulin if your a j/k you only have 1 night action to submit let me explain why.

+ Show Spoiler +
They will only roleblock me or you. If they roleblock you who cares what you submit.
BUT If they roleblock me that means they cant rb exo so they have to kill him. SO YOU SAVE HIM. Do you understand? If they rb me they have to kill exo or he can get a check. SO HES THE ONLY SAVE YOU SUBMIT

this is a great plan no one should deviate from it
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 06:48 GMT
#5858
+ Show Spoiler [for rsoultin] +
talk to me in here for a bit i got a great plan
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 08:05 GMT
#5870
On March 24 2015 17:03 Breshke wrote:
Also this has probably been mentioned but if onegus mason partner isnt eden, trefel or maybe artanis im all for lynching him tomorrow

if i'm onegu's mason partner i'm gonna flip a huge shit
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 08:14 GMT
#5873
Anyway, more constructive commentary:

On March 24 2015 16:07 Breshke wrote:
Okay so this is what has been bugging me about superbia being scum.

So the town consensus is currently that both vigis are town and just for reference most of these posts happened around EoD1

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On March 21 2015 07:12 Superbia wrote:
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On March 21 2015 07:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.

I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB.

if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other.

we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too.


It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably).
Uh, what?

First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all?

Please explain.


tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
Ok, let's imagine that mafia roleblocks the town vigilante. If the tracker tracks the roleblocked vigilante, then town gets no information. If the tracker tracks the mafia, then as long as that mafia isn't carrying KP (reasonable assumption), then they won't get anything from that either.


If mafia is not putting rb or kp (kp is riskier due to probable medic in setup) on a tracker (assuming that he is), it is a huge risk for mafia, as he can essentially solve a big part of the game by himself. If mafia plays it safe they allow the vigi situation to resolve during the night.

I say let's put the ball in mafia's court. I have plenty of others I want to lynch outside of the two vigi wagons.


On March 21 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
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On March 21 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
Stop voting claims jesus. If kp was reduced on vigis when more people joined it could be 2 vigis. We SORT IT OUT AT NIGHT AND MAKE PLANS. D2 is discussion day.

Today we lynch the guy that has done nothing at all. Scum read edej for being 3rd vote (done as town too) un scum read him and then afk'd THE ENTIRE GAME. 3 TIMES WITHOUT RETURNING


HF. Give me a small push more and I'll vote on BM. Are you familiar with his meta? Also what do you think of having a wagon on SL or LS?


On March 21 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
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On March 21 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims


I like where you are at.


On March 21 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
Nobody cares about your petty shitty vig claim fight. There's loads of mafia let's kill them


Are you going to strongarm this BM lynch? I've asked multiple times regarding an SL or an LS wagon.
Whatever. It's your fault if BM flips town though.


On March 21 2015 07:35 Superbia wrote:
Just ask yourself this one question:

Where the fuck are SL and LS at? Also Slam?



So for superbia to be mafia he would have to be saying he doesn't want to vote for EITHER of the town vigi's. Instead he would be repetedly suggesting his mafia partners LS or possible partners SL (and for that last quote) slam to be lynched.

I don't see what the point of this play as mafia is. Superbia would have to think that there is zero chance people would listen or take him up on anything he said. which i do not think he believes.

So assuming both the vigis are actually town i'm going to make some of those rpe flip associations everyone loves.

SL superbia and LS can not all be mafia together as superbia would be pushing no agenda Eod. This means there is AT MOST one between SL and superbia. I also find that last quote really strange if superbia slam and LS are all mafia together because it feels super risky for no reason because there's two "town vigis" that people were happy to lynch between but instead superbia pushes on 2 people with a mini push on another and we are meant to think that 2/3 of these people are his mafia partners. It just seems like such an odd risky play.

Not sure if this makes sense btw so if anything needs clarifying ask away

I think we might have overstated how willing the mafia would be to lynch a vig claim over a non-vig claim. I'll explain why in a minute but first:

Toad, earlier you said this:

On March 23 2015 15:50 Toadesstern wrote:
speaking of which.

I TOTALLY HAVE MORE BULLETS

Explain.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 08:30 GMT
#5876
hurr durr ok.

So yeah anyway I don't think the mafia would be especially scared of a vig enough to go out of their way to lynch one over a non-vig townie. They can just rb a vig who's threatening to shoot mafia or let the singleton shot go through. So I think the mafia's agenda for eod1 would absolutely have been "do whatever makes you look cleanest."

And I think there's plenty of room for mafia!Superbia to appear to want to lynch mafia!LightningStrike here. I made this point when I initially argued Superbia was mafia - for all his talk of wanting to lynch LS he never actually voted for LS. You can see how quickly the wagon formed on Bill Murray near the end. LS had 3 votes on him for quite some time. How hard would it have been for Superbia to get LS lynched if he wanted it? His vote makes 4 and leaves LS as the biggest counterwagon to either vig train by far.

Just notice how he's basically begging HF to vote for LightningStrike instead of Bill Murray, but then he never actually puts his own vote down on LS to force HF and company to vote LS to get a counterwagon to either vig.

So while it's pretty reasonable analysis, Breshke, I end up disagreeing with the main conclusions from it.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 08:30 GMT
#5877
Holy Christ it's 3:30am
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 08:36 GMT
#5879
I had another thought on the masons but I'm gonna (literally) sleep on it and maybe post it at EON.

Honestly right now, it's kinda hard to find reason to reassess this lynch list:

1. Superbia
2. ritoky
3. Alakaslam
4. Palmar

when there's basically no activity to speak of from the entire list. ritoky maybe but Superbia bailed on the game, Slam bailed on the game, Palmar is still floating around but might as well have bailed on the game...

It's kinda like when you're playing MTG and it's time to sideboard and you have all these sweet cards you wanna board in, but you're like, "WTF do I board out for this matchup?" I could start writing up reasons why Toad fake-cc'd Vivax or Onegu is secret mafia with whoever he declares as his mason partner, but why change anything when all 4 of my suspects make a lot of sense, none of them are doing anything to change my mind and only one of them (ritoky) even appears to care to?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 08:38 GMT
#5880
On March 24 2015 17:35 Toadesstern wrote:
the entire point about why mafia would want a vig dead was based on people saying there has to be mafia between Vivax and Toad during d1/n1 to begin with.

If anything I find it quite likely that mafia might even want to get BM over any of the vigs hoping for either a reapeat of d1 that just means a shitton of chaos and will end up as Toad vs Vivax lynch or for the vigs to shoot each other during n1.
If both vigs are town that is highly beneficial for mafia.

Agree with the idea that they want to keep the vigs around as ML bait d2/d3. That seemed to be a pretty major sentiment behind why people didn't like the Bill Murray wagon
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 08:45 GMT
#5882
Sounds like a plan. I don't think I have much to add right now anyway. Later man!
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 16:18 GMT
#5930
Fecal can wait a bit.

I feel like there's a good chance cop/vig/vig/mason/mason is too townsided still. But I refuse to worry about this until Onegu claims his masonbro.

Thanks for starting to play Palmar. Idk if you saw my lynch list but you're fourth behind Superbia, ritoky and Alakaslam. Who should be replacing you on that list and who doesn't belong on the list besides you?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 16:29 GMT
#5934
On March 25 2015 01:16 Vivax wrote:
He's scum cause that case on LS isn't natural in my opinion. It's the sort of case one would make with all the gimmick for the distancing.

maybe elaborate on this?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 16:40 GMT
#5947
On March 25 2015 01:33 Palmar wrote:
Do you agree with Eden's list artanis? Do you think Superbia is the best lynch tomorrow?

his town list? ya pretty much

Superbia best lynch tomorrow? ya pretty much

I could see ritoky but I am trying to be fair-minded and give him time to prove himself independent of his slot. It's not the optimal path to scumhunting in this situation (since all the things making me want to lynch ray still apply) but I think it's better for the game to give him the opportunity to defend himself on his terms instead of on ray's.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 16:41 GMT
#5949
On March 25 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
Also at what point did we drop SL and Damdred as mafia candidates. I remember being very much okay with killing both of them.

since SL started trying and Damdred dropped mondo analysis bombs
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 16:43 GMT
#5950
On March 25 2015 01:39 Trfel wrote:
Pending his mason claim, I currently want to lynch Onegu the most.

I'm actually not really sold on a Superbia lynch. When I look at his filter, it seems pretty good to me. It seems better than his play in Mini Mafia Down Under 2 (though that game probably isn't very representative of his skill), so I'm not confident that he is mafia yet.

Why are people scumreading Superbia? (quotes are perfectly fine)

On March 22 2015 14:46 Eden1892 wrote:
Superbia is mafia because...
  • He mad salty y'all. Sometimes in the thread he just goes on a spastic raging hissy fit. With Superbia, being angry for no reason is generally mafia-indicative (c.f. Imperial Mafia).
  • His "interactions" with LightningStrike are suspicious. I put that in quotes for a reason; there's not really interaction. They talk past each other. Superbia "scumreads" LS for inactivity/lurking a couple of times but then doesn't really push him much. He even asks LS a pretty good question about LS's bad question to me... and then does nothing with it. He also repeatedly whines for an LS wagon to start, but as soon as one happens he's nowhere to be seen; in fact he never votes for LS at all despite clearly "suspecting" him for quite some time. Meanwhile LS townreads Superbia for a fluff reason in his big reads list and then when given the opportunity to say something about Superbia after my questioning... doesn't.
  • I still think my questioning Superbia about the Damdred/sicklucker thing was meaningful. I can't place why it is and I probably never will unless I'm right about him and he bothers to tell me postgame. But the discrepancy in his conclusion there kinda felt like he was trying to find reasons to be suspicious of both players even though his own logic basically required him to be suspicious only of one.

Add in the fact that he just basically stopped caring about the game altogether and here we are.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 16:56 GMT
#5953
On March 25 2015 01:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also T2 a shit. At least play a reasonable format like modern.

if I wanted to play Solitaire I've got it on my computer for free
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 17:01 GMT
#5955
I don't really agree with any of those three reads lol

How is somebody posting off-topic stuff in the game after not being around for a while, promising to catch up and then not delivering townie? I think it doesn't mean anything for his alignment

Also don't think FF's case on LS is suspicious unless it's about a bunch of shit that isn't true. Which reminds me I need to reread it to determine if it's about a bunch of shit that isn't true lol. My recollection is that it was a pretty solid case. And I feel like any substandard pushing it later is likely just to be non-alignment-indicative laziness, but that's obviously debatable.

And I guess Artanis's post on FF is suspicious in isolation, but I really like his body of work so I don't really care :o
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 17:09 GMT
#5962
On March 25 2015 02:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 02:01 Eden1892 wrote:
I don't really agree with any of those three reads lol

How is somebody posting off-topic stuff in the game after not being around for a while, promising to catch up and then not delivering townie? I think it doesn't mean anything for his alignment

Also don't think FF's case on LS is suspicious unless it's about a bunch of shit that isn't true. Which reminds me I need to reread it to determine if it's about a bunch of shit that isn't true lol. My recollection is that it was a pretty solid case. And I feel like any substandard pushing it later is likely just to be non-alignment-indicative laziness, but that's obviously debatable.

And I guess Artanis's post on FF is suspicious in isolation, but I really like his body of work so I don't really care :o


That's why I realized LS is scum from one post on D1 and you didn't.

A scum who comes back to the thread after a long posting pause is going to feel under pressure to deliver something that makes him look like he's doing something useful.

Uh scuse me I knew something was off about him from his intro. Just didn't think it was enough to lynch him

More importantly how is LS at all analogous here? Maybe Superbia felt pressured but didn't know what to say and just didn't say anything. Maybe he had a lot to catch up on. (He did.) There really is no reason to assume Superbia is town from that
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 20:11 GMT
#6009
On March 25 2015 04:23 ritoky wrote:
can someone discuss the specifics of onegu's mason claim with me? or tell me which page it is on?

did he make it under pressure from votes? was everyone okay with him not outing his partner? who wasn't? why? etc.

Onegu claimed Groot (under no pressure to do so), Holyflare pretended to be Onegu's mason partner. We kinda just rolled with it until Holyflare flipped VT at the start of d2. Then Onegu claimed your slot was his partner, ray rebuffed this and stuck to his tracker claim. Onegu said he would claim his mason partner tonight after the deadline for submitting night actions.

That's the play-by-play for it. I don't remember specific reactions and I care to look in this monstrosity of a thread for them about as much as you do
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 20:14 GMT
#6011
If Fecalfeast is mafia for his behavior surrounding LS then Superbia is even more mafia. Superbia just whined at people near EOD about lynching LS while never placing a vote down for him.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 20:16 GMT
#6013
Vivax, why are you locking in on Fecalfeast as mafia here for his push on LightningStrike and not giving the same level of attention to Superbia's push? I think Superbia's push is clearly more suspicious out of the two. I understand you TR'd Superbia earlier for his off-topic posting when he returned to the thread, but I don't feel like it's terribly difficult to find similar examples for Fecalfeast, and so I'm not sure why you seem to be disregarding Superbia's push here...
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 20:31 GMT
#6018
On March 25 2015 05:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:16 Eden1892 wrote:
Vivax, why are you locking in on Fecalfeast as mafia here for his push on LightningStrike and not giving the same level of attention to Superbia's push? I think Superbia's push is clearly more suspicious out of the two. I understand you TR'd Superbia earlier for his off-topic posting when he returned to the thread, but I don't feel like it's terribly difficult to find similar examples for Fecalfeast, and so I'm not sure why you seem to be disregarding Superbia's push here...


Expand on superbias push being suspicious? And what makes you TR FF at all? I don't understand why you get the feeling of having to side with FF here unless you got a damn good reason to TR him. Your whole argument is "why you scumreading FF but not superbia", it just sounds like whining.

[image loading] you should work on your tone reading man.

Superbia's push is suspicious because he keeps harping on LightningStrike all of day 1, but never votes for LS. Look at how he bugs Holyflare about "strongarming a BM lynch" and says he's "asked multiple times about an SL or LS wagon." He pouts at HF saying it's HF's fault if BM flips town. All through this time he never actually tries to convince anybody to vote LS and never votes LS himself. That's hella suspect because it shows that for all his appearances he's not actually invested in getting his mafia reads lynched.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 20:31 GMT
#6019
On March 25 2015 05:23 Damdred wrote:
I'm not so sure that you guy read ff latest games

?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 20:46 GMT
#6037
i'm not gonna lie, i've been wondering where you've been recently lol

but it is a little weird how all the people in my lynch pile came out of the woodwork and started chirping about you
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 20:53 GMT
#6050
On March 25 2015 05:49 Superbia wrote:
Eden, my first priority during EoD1 was to ensure that both vigi claims survived the lynch. My preference was to go on SL or LS, but (at that point, due to mason claim) confirmed town HF was looking at BM. I tried to engage with HF regarding the subject of the lynch multiple times, but it never happened. It was abundantly clear what my lynch preference was EoD, and it is also rather clear that if I had made a fuss about the lynch, the wagons would be split and Vivax would've been lynched.

You had 3 votes on LightningStrike at the time compared to 3 for Bill Murray. If you had done literally any degree of actual pushing to get LS lynched instead of just saying "why not LS why not LS?" (pro tip this isn't engagement this is just harassing) you probably get that wagon. I would have moved to it if you'd made any case at all. It's the BM wagon that threatened to split the vote, not the LS one.

Your lynch preference was "not-the-vigs," you kept talking about lynching LightningStrike, LightningStrike was a viable wagon, but you never vote LS and you allow the BM wagon to take over while grumbling about it instead of making a case on your scumread.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 20:56 GMT
#6053
I claimed rolecop
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 21:02 GMT
#6064
On March 25 2015 05:57 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:53 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 25 2015 05:49 Superbia wrote:
Eden, my first priority during EoD1 was to ensure that both vigi claims survived the lynch. My preference was to go on SL or LS, but (at that point, due to mason claim) confirmed town HF was looking at BM. I tried to engage with HF regarding the subject of the lynch multiple times, but it never happened. It was abundantly clear what my lynch preference was EoD, and it is also rather clear that if I had made a fuss about the lynch, the wagons would be split and Vivax would've been lynched.

You had 3 votes on LightningStrike at the time compared to 3 for Bill Murray. If you had done literally any degree of actual pushing to get LS lynched instead of just saying "why not LS why not LS?" (pro tip this isn't engagement this is just harassing) you probably get that wagon. I would have moved to it if you'd made any case at all. It's the BM wagon that threatened to split the vote, not the LS one.

Your lynch preference was "not-the-vigs," you kept talking about lynching LightningStrike, LightningStrike was a viable wagon, but you never vote LS and you allow the BM wagon to take over while grumbling about it instead of making a case on your scumread.


Okay. First of all, I wasn't sure which between SL and LS I wanted to vote off. That's why I wanted to engage with HF and get his thoughts on the matter.

Let's say that I was hard-reading LS scum at that time (I really wasn't, I was still unsure of my read), and I vote on LS and start telling other people to vote on LS. How does HF react? How does the rest of town react? Do you really believe that we get the lynch on LS over Vivax?

Actually I just looked at the vote count again at the time you asked HF, you were voting sicklucker. sicklucker and LS were both at 3 votes. You're telling me you had two ways to get one of your scumreads lynched that were both as viable as BM at the time, but that you decided to vote for BM (who you even lampshaded would flip town in your comment to HF) instead? The vote was already split among 3 wagons so your reaction instead of pushing either of the 2 that you thought was scum was to move to the one you thought was town???

And hell yes! HF later even said he was drunk when he switched ffs. Obviously some of this is hindsight but yes, the thread sentiment was pretty clearly split 50/50 between "lynch a vig claim" and "don't lynch a vig claim." You had the opportunity right in front of you to push either of your scumreads as the "don't lynch a vig claim" wagon, then you idled on a town wagon that you said beforehand you thought was townie. Why am I supposed to townread you for this? Why shouldn't I find this suspicious as hell?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 21:03 GMT
#6065
On March 25 2015 05:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:53 Damdred wrote:
Vivax you weren't playing as town. You didn't act town until you got pinged put. It's why I hate people who play differently when they wore blue it's frustrating.

Speaking of SL, I need Eden to tell me why he's town. So far I was rather chill about him but I figure he's still possible mafia, in stead of 1 of Slam/Palmar who are the guys I'm most unsure of.

I felt like he was trying to figure things out and gave more of a shit yesterday, but the more he's just not doing anything the more I'm doubting this tbh. I'm pulling my TR on him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:19 GMT
#6153
superbia's confidence in his setup spec despite all the logic leaps reeks of tmi to me

i'm biased tho
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:20 GMT
#6155
i'm also getting this weird feeling about how he hasn't been doing shit to find mafia and then he suddenly shows up with all this detailed analysis about why the mafia would have done specific X thing during the night
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:20 GMT
#6158
someone else sort it out though because as already acknowledged i'm biased as hell
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:21 GMT
#6162
On March 25 2015 07:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 07:19 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Like this should be mafia's perspective if slam is town and both vigis are real.

Town is calling for a shot on VE and slam. Both toad and vivax seem to comply.

What does mafia have to lose by not RBing and letting both shots go through?

I've explained what mafia has to gain, possible d3 mylo and 2 big question marks for misslynches.

But both Toad and Vivax looked so townie. Town was also coming around to the idea of 2 town vigis by that time regardless of the shots, so I disagree that it truly would leave 2 big question marks. Essentially all that's different with the RB is that Slam is still alive and can still get mislynched, presuming town.


No way town keeps these strong townreads going into d2 with those flips dude.

Flips change nothing when you've collectively decided on the shots. Hell, Toad shot a townread of his in VE and he's still collectively thought of as town by those with thinking caps on.

sick vivax burn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:27 GMT
#6172
On March 25 2015 07:25 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 07:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:06 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also you're forgetting that the JK probably stopped 1KP, which would've made things 3KP otherwise. A RB on a Vivax shooting Slam could easily result in a Slam mislynch. Town vigis either shoot scum or bad townies and either result can be detrimental to scum because it could eliminate mislynches.


No, no. That's absolutely irrelevant. The play is to let both KP go through 100%. The misslynch on slam is absolutely irrelevant, because you go into d2 with 5 townies dead and suspicion on the Vigis. 5v10. If you secure a misslynch on that day you have mylo in d3.

1. You don't know if Vivax is shooting Slam or someone else.
2. RBing Vivax isn't between 4 or 2 KP but 4 or 3 KP
3. An alive town Slam is highly likely to get lynched.
I don't find your case very convincing. I think there's a good chance Slam is scum, but not because of this.


Can you tell me the other reason slam is scum?

Super serious at the start, convincingly wanted to change his town meta, then basically stopped playing. If he truly felt strongly about it I think we would've seen more of him this game.


Maybe he just realized that a cat is a cat. You can put funny hats on it or little cat boots or even a sweater, but it still remains a cat. I don't think slam is the kind of guy who can help but be himself. I didn't read the early game so I can't attest to that, but I have a pretty good read on him, and he is leaning town on his way to town for me.

Can you explain that read on him?


Not really, but I can try a little bit. It is primarily a tone, content, and specificity read. The tone and content read comes from me joking a lot with him and engaging in eye of the chupazi training and kinda starting to get a glimpse inside the wifom bunker after the great bombing of the chupazitron 50000 cracked the shell.

There's some other stuff to it, but you would call it absolutely crazy.

lmao stop making me not want to lynch you for things that have nothing to do with your alignment
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:28 GMT
#6174
so superbia, who have you decided is mafia from this grand theory
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:31 GMT
#6180
i really would like the orb to go on superbia

but palmar's ok too
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:33 GMT
#6183
i'm not willing to lynch ritoky because he makes sense
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:38 GMT
#6191
On March 25 2015 07:35 Damdred wrote:
Honestly if not for Rayn I'd be town reading rit atm

this is what i was thinking
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:42 GMT
#6200
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:43 GMT
#6202
you were supposed to post that before the mafia's nightkills were locked trfel
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:48 GMT
#6211
wtf is going on
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:50 GMT
#6213
this game and its pants-on-head claims smh

we all gonna have a long talk about claiming after this is over
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:52 GMT
#6216
Eden's Legacy Post

fuck y'all and your shitty claims

I'm the jailer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:52 GMT
#6217
not actually
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:57 GMT
#6225
Eden's Real Legacy Post

Every single motherfucker in this game vote Onegu until he claims his mason partner and his mason partner confirms. This is fucking absurd. If he does don't lynch him.

Never lynch Damdred, Artanis, Vivax, Toad, ExO_, rsoultin, Trfel. Make the mafia play around the claims. Damdred and Artanis are definitely town. If you get to like d5 or whatever after you lynch 2-3 more mafia and there's some claimed blues who have been passed up in the kill order, start thinking about it.

THIS IS YOUR CURRENT LYNCH ORDER. DEVIATE AT YOUR PERIL.

1. Superbia
2. Alakaslam
3. Palmar/ritoky
4. ritoky/Palmar


We're all gonna have a talk about these garbo role claims at the end.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:58 GMT
#6230
On March 25 2015 07:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 07:56 rsoultin wrote:
Awwww

so few reactions xP wouldn't it be nice if it were actually true and i had claimed jailkeeper as the vet? lolol

Jailkeeped: FecalFeast

Why?

Because there's no way for me to know for sure whether or not I'll be roleblocked, and if I am any attempt to save anyone will be ineffective. Instead I did my best to not only try to identify the scum while certain peoples complain about me wanting to be spoonfed and roleblock the one more likely to be carrying KP because I've been townreading them.

Anywho ^^ don't hate me too much? lol (this is why i should never play blue)



DO NOT BURY MY POST EDEN YOU TWIT!!!

The Rock's legacy post is the most meaningful one of all
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:58 GMT
#6232
On March 25 2015 07:58 Trfel wrote:
What garbage role claims?

I claimed my role at the optimal time.

Not necessarily yours, but especially if all of them are somehow legit, there's been some real fuckups this game
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 22:59 GMT
#6236
On March 25 2015 07:59 Superbia wrote:
Eden, you're probably going to die, I'm never going to get lynched and I'm going to lead town to victory. Prepare for postgame. :D

The kiss of death. If I'm actually dead and none of the blues are, get this guy.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:00 GMT
#6238
If Superbia is Onegu's mason lynch them both anyway

Half-srs
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:04 GMT
#6243
Oh thank God Trfel wasn't killed.

I saw his post and I was like

[image loading]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:04 GMT
#6245
Also who had the orb? SL claimed it before and no one cc'd
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:04 GMT
#6247
##VOTE: Onegu
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:05 GMT
#6251
On March 25 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote:


glhf



Just want to point out that I was right. Again.

Maybe next game people will actually just sheep me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:05 GMT
#6254
On March 25 2015 08:05 Superbia wrote:
I want to know what the Orb did boys.

well afawk town had no more kp except using the orb

there's a dead mafia

so... you tell me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:06 GMT
#6256
On March 25 2015 08:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 08:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Oh thank God Trfel wasn't killed.

I saw his post and I was like

[image loading]
Huh? Explain this?

you posted after deadline before flip

i guess is okay and i'm DEFINITELY NOT COMPLAINING HTS DON'T U DARE PUSH THAT BUTTON U HEER ME
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:06 GMT
#6258
On March 25 2015 08:06 Superbia wrote:
Tbh eden, you made me change my mind about the KP with the last min post. x: #Tooscared

u wot m8
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:07 GMT
#6260
On March 09 2015 12:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Game Mechanics and Setup


2 If the vigilante gets roleblocked, his/her bullets will not be refunded.


“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:08 GMT
#6264
Sooooo Trfel

Jailer?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:09 GMT
#6266
On March 25 2015 08:08 Superbia wrote:
No shit? So that confirms SL then. Wow.

Well, whoever has the orb.

And since sicklucker claimed it and no one cc'd even during the last 20mins...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:10 GMT
#6271
On March 25 2015 08:09 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 08:08 Eden1892 wrote:
Sooooo Trfel

Jailer?
About that

Am I supposed to believe that two different roles with flavor names implying they're one person ended up having duplicates...?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:12 GMT
#6272
Help me out Trfel because:

(1) You claimed after night actions were finalized thereby preventing you from being able to take a bullet by fakeclaiming
(2) No other explanation makes sense from a town role to me
(3) No explanation makes sense at all from a mafia role to me

?????????
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:13 GMT
#6279
ok, refer to my big blue message in my legacy post then
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:14 GMT
#6281
great, so once again we're holding our dicks waiting for Onegu to quit filibustering our POE
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:14 GMT
#6282
On March 25 2015 08:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway with Onegu's absence I want everyone to confirm that they're not Onegu's mason partner.
I am not Onegu's mason partner.

amen

I am not Onegu's mason partner.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:15 GMT
#6285
you know what's gonna end up happening is sicklucker is gonna ride his confirmed town cred into fakeclaiming onegu's mason partner to set le epik wifmo trapp xddddddd while onegu is actually mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:22 GMT
#6290
Adding in our claimed vigs I've got the following 4 possible:

sicklucker
Damdred
Alakaslam
Fecalfeast
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:26 GMT
#6296
On March 25 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote:
4 possible what Eden.

I'm not mason

Partners.

Now three. sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Alakaslam.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:27 GMT
#6297
On March 25 2015 08:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh I also want to make the point that Vivax had that whole theory that all 4 scum had to be on him because no way would scum switch from him to BM.

Yeah, about that.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Palmar's move confirms Vivax town (not that we needed more evidence).

Which looks hella bad for Slam.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:35 GMT
#6308
On March 25 2015 08:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 08:27 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 25 2015 08:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh I also want to make the point that Vivax had that whole theory that all 4 scum had to be on him because no way would scum switch from him to BM.

Yeah, about that.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Palmar's move confirms Vivax town (not that we needed more evidence).

Which looks hella bad for Slam.

I don't see why, he switched away from Toad to BM which saved Vivax.

Vivax is still town but why that reason?

Because Palmar doesn't pussyfoot around if a partner's life is on the line. He either makes up his mind about busing or protecting his partner. If he had the luxury of trolling the game and flipping last second they have to be both town, yeah?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:38 GMT
#6313
On March 25 2015 08:37 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 08:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 25 2015 08:33 Breshke wrote:
So either they roleblocked and killed rso or FF is the mafiaroleblocker.

They probs roleblocked RSO though.

What? I don't understand what you're saying. Mafia has 2kp, 2 townies died.


Cos wouldnt they have rb SL? i understabd that they could have rb and killed rso to make sure she didnt get a save. But if they didnt do that where else would they have sent the rb other than sl who most likely used the orb to.kill palmar.

Im saying rso jailed ff which could have stopped the rb.

Also someone nominate this orb for best town performance

They almost certainly used the roleblocker to stop rsoultin's jailing someone. Especially since there was talk about jailing ExO_
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:40 GMT
#6315
On March 25 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 08:37 Breshke wrote:
On March 25 2015 08:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 25 2015 08:33 Breshke wrote:
So either they roleblocked and killed rso or FF is the mafiaroleblocker.

They probs roleblocked RSO though.

What? I don't understand what you're saying. Mafia has 2kp, 2 townies died.


Cos wouldnt they have rb SL? i understabd that they could have rb and killed rso to make sure she didnt get a save. But if they didnt do that where else would they have sent the rb other than sl who most likely used the orb to.kill palmar.

Im saying rso jailed ff which could have stopped the rb.

Also someone nominate this orb for best town performance

No because no one knew if SL was telling the truth or not. His claim could've easily been WIFOM whereas all the other blues were all but confirmed. It makes no sense to RB a POSSIBLE orb user over a confirmed blue.

That too
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:41 GMT
#6317
No wonder Palmar didn't post "Part Four: The Redemption" in here.

Looking back, there were signs.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:41 GMT
#6320
On March 25 2015 08:40 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 08:13 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, refer to my big blue message in my legacy post then
Wait, Eden, what's with this?

How could my post possibly have had a negative impact on the game?

It probably didn't, I just briefly got annoyed because I thought it might have meant that I was wrong on rsoultin when you claimed and I really don't want to be.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:47 GMT
#6330
On March 25 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote:
Two dead mafia, both flipped goon....

Does this cast more doubt on our "sea of blue" theory?

I thought about this while I was eating dinner, but I don't think it does yet. I would bet the mafia have a roleblocker and framer for sure at least, and I'd bet on unaware miller. That hates out the cop, 2 vigs has dissynergy and roleblocker negates jailer.

If we get to 4 goons flipped then I'll start worrying about it. Maybe if 3 flipped (since I could see them having a rolecop as well). But 2 isn't enough to make me worried yet
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:47 GMT
#6331
Oh and I guess I'm assuming Onegu isn't a mason. So there's that.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:48 GMT
#6335
On March 25 2015 08:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Let's say 2 town vigis, an alignment cop, a jk vs a RB, then probably a framer and maybe a gf wouldn't be that bad I don't think. Though if there were a GF and a framer it seems odd they would place a high value on killing ExO.

They killed the only 2 blue claims that were more than named townies at this point so I don't think it means much for their roles
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:49 GMT
#6338
If anything I'm imagining a world where mafia has rb, fr, and rc, town has an unaware miller, cop, 2 vigs and jailer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:51 GMT
#6340
On March 25 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
Also at what point did we drop SL and Damdred as mafia candidates. I remember being very much okay with killing both of them.

2 townies in this post
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 23:51 GMT
#6342
Off to MTG lata babes
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:17 GMT
#6419
On March 25 2015 11:06 Superbia wrote:
Here's where I'm at with Onegu's alignment. I feel like it is somewhat tied with ex-rayn, neo-ritoky.

Let's imagine two scenarios, both involving rayn's fakeclaim at EoD1:

Scenario 1: Rayn is Town
Scenario 2: Rayn is Mafia

In scenario 1, scum is likely to have their towniest members carry KP in order to avoid the tracker. Who is unlikely to get tracked if he were mafia? Onegu. The caveat is that Onegu is also in the range of getting either medic saved (mafia don't care about this) or roleblocked (this is a bit risky), see scenario 2.

In scenario 2, scum knows there was no CC on the fake tracker claim and as such, there is likely no tracker. As such, having Onegu carry the KP becomes somewhat more risky, because he is in the range of a roleblocker. There is no reason for scum to have him carry the KP.

This post is like watching a porn scene that cuts off halfway through the blowjob
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:19 GMT
#6420
Also:

(1) We are not lynching Onegu today, maybe not ever, definitely not today.
(2) sicklucker basically confirmed town.

Superbia who do you actually think is mafia right now, how do you plan to use your analysis and what is the best reason I shouldn't lynch you today?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:20 GMT
#6422
On March 25 2015 11:01 Vivax wrote:
I'm weighing in the pros and cons of lynching 1gu:

- Scum killed HF blowing up Onegu's cover when an alive HF would have at least kept up the impression

Cont. with Slam

This is a really hella good point btw.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:21 GMT
#6423
On it bruh gimme like 20. I got me some Cane's for dinner tonight. We eatin fam
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:25 GMT
#6427
On March 25 2015 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 07:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also you're forgetting that the JK probably stopped 1KP, which would've made things 3KP otherwise. A RB on a Vivax shooting Slam could easily result in a Slam mislynch. Town vigis either shoot scum or bad townies and either result can be detrimental to scum because it could eliminate mislynches.


[...] The misslynch on slam is absolutely irrelevant, because you go into d2 with 5 townies dead and suspicion on the Vigis. 5v10.

On March 19 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote:
Dumbtell boys. How many mafia are there in a game of 20? 5?

it's not this huh? seems weak but that's prolly not what you're getting at
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:26 GMT
#6430
On March 25 2015 12:23 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 12:17 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 25 2015 11:06 Superbia wrote:
Here's where I'm at with Onegu's alignment. I feel like it is somewhat tied with ex-rayn, neo-ritoky.

Let's imagine two scenarios, both involving rayn's fakeclaim at EoD1:

Scenario 1: Rayn is Town
Scenario 2: Rayn is Mafia

In scenario 1, scum is likely to have their towniest members carry KP in order to avoid the tracker. Who is unlikely to get tracked if he were mafia? Onegu. The caveat is that Onegu is also in the range of getting either medic saved (mafia don't care about this) or roleblocked (this is a bit risky), see scenario 2.

In scenario 2, scum knows there was no CC on the fake tracker claim and as such, there is likely no tracker. As such, having Onegu carry the KP becomes somewhat more risky, because he is in the range of a roleblocker. There is no reason for scum to have him carry the KP.

This post is like watching a porn scene that cuts off halfway through the blowjob


Wat. Why.

There's no climax. You don't release any conclusions you have, you just keep them pent up. I know this kinda thing gives you a headache but it's really hard to get into it when you just keep it to yourself like that
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:29 GMT
#6433
On March 25 2015 12:27 Superbia wrote:
Ask me who I want to lynch today, and prepare to get mad.

i mean i already implicitly did but ok

who you wanna lynch today superbia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:30 GMT
#6436
this is totally a hint isn't it
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:30 GMT
#6437
On March 25 2015 12:29 Superbia wrote:
Artanis.

uh

why

lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:39 GMT
#6439
18 minutes in and i ain't found shit rofl

i think imma fail your challenge trfel but im still tryin
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:44 GMT
#6442
On March 25 2015 12:43 Toadesstern wrote:
So I'm basicly still where I was a couple hours ago. Ritoky is certainly an option for today simply based on rayn even if he does look better than rayn, but that's not really that much of an accomplishment.

There's straight up no reason to not lynch Alakaslam.

Superbia I'm very wary but Eden apparently likes him for some reason... so maybe not today.

Slam it is?

lol what

I don't like Superbia at all, I just decided he might respond better to me posing my questions in a slightly less aggressive manner so I toned it down
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:46 GMT
#6448
On March 25 2015 12:44 Damdred wrote:
Also btw I don't think scum oneg goes crazy on rso for saving him instead of hf. I think scum oneg would ride and die with that cred instead of calling RS out

Good observation



And hey Superbia? Why aren't you doing anything about raytoky? You literally just got through saying you had a "soft different check" on them based on that analysis but then you tell me you want to lynch Artanis and you're not seeming like you're doing anything about raytoky. I feel like if you had actually believed in that check you would be digging into it, why aren't you?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:47 GMT
#6449
On March 25 2015 12:45 Trfel wrote:
Ok Eden. I'll try one more time.

Read it again and imagine you're mafia.

like me specifically mafia or as a generic mafioso reading
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 03:52 GMT
#6452
i feel like i'd scumread you early for self-vote / not having a lot of reads / asking about #s of scumteam

but once you started posting for real idt it would be worth to try to push you too hard and i'd probably just glide with the emerging townreads on you and move to something else

i also don't think i would be reading that carefully even if i tried hard lol

i'm not really getting to what you're looking for, am i
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:01 GMT
#6461
On March 25 2015 12:55 Trfel wrote:
Eden. Here's one more question, don't answer me, but last try.

What does rsoultin say her best quality (as scum) is?

I don't think I've ever talked about this with her

I feel really dumb for missing the boat this bad. What's on your mind Trfel?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:02 GMT
#6462
If I had to guess, it's that she actually tries hard? As opposed to a lot of people who can't muster up the motivation to do it.

But even if that's right I'm still not sure where I'm supposed to be going here.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:03 GMT
#6463
On March 25 2015 12:57 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 12:53 Trfel wrote:
But if Onegu is town, he knows that rsoultin just saved him. That or one of the vigilantes is lying.

If Onegu wasn't scumreading both of the vigilantes, this seems rather disconnected and suspicious.



I was scum on both, a bit less on artanis because of the RB claim, but I was screaming toad was scum, what's your point here?

...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:19 GMT
#6477
On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 12:30 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 25 2015 12:29 Superbia wrote:
Artanis.

uh

why

lol


All right. So Artanis' day 1 is actually really really bad, with the exception if rayn ever flips mafia (which I severely doubt at this point).

He hard defends LS:

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town:
On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:
Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet.

I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won

Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you.

I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably)

With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it.

Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town?


from JoaT:
On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.

Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game

not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me.

Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different?

Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned.

I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled.
Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game.
So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh.
@Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why?
@ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other?


Oh god this post is so mafia

Have you played with LS before? This is how LS plays.

So he whiffed on LS. Okay...

On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:He calls toad scum and by proxy, defends Palmar who toad is tunneling. Interestingly, at this very point Artanis had no read on Palmar! He was reading him null!

Explain with quotes please, I'll go look for them on my own and we can compare notes.

On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:Then, when the claim wars happen, he completely flips on toad, and goes hard after vivax. This is after toad was his hard mafia read.

Yeah, typically when someone cc's vig in a game where the flavor implies that power roles are unique, your read tends to change in a hurry.

[QUOTE]On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:We are left with this list:

[QUOTE]On March 21 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Votes as I see them:
Vivax (5): Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern
LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Vivax, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke
Artanis[Xp] (2): VisceraEyes, Eden1892
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, rsoultin
Toadesstern (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet
Eden1892 (1): ExO

Not Voting (1): Trfel

Only having 1.7 scumread is problematic. Was hoping this'd help more.[/QUOTE]

With the exception of possibly rayn, most of his reads are pretty shit. He leans town on two confirmed mafia (really bad) for seemingly no good reason whatsoever.

[QUOTE]On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:Now this is where it gets scummy, with the whole claim thing. There's a wagon on Vivax and a wagon starts on BM. As the wagon starts, Art calls it "pure" but refuses to switch. He gets called out by you (Eden) and he gives a half-assed excuse later. He seems to strongly consider the world in which both vigis are real:

[QUOTE]On March 21 2015 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think Superbia might possibly be right. Host WIFOM time.
I know HtS likes her vigis because she hates lurkers. It's therefore very likely there's at least 1 vigi in the setup. Since the playercount wasn't fixed until the end, I find it plausible that the end balance was made by adding an additional vigi.

I'm not sure if I find that more plausible than that Vivax simply tried to fakeclaim and failed though. Toad definitely town for the CC, I just don't ever see mafia making that play when it isn't necessary.[/QUOTE]

But for a reason I don't share whatsoever, proceeds to call Vivax 100% scum anyway. Moreover, Artanis later finds the time to make a paint diagram on rayn's anger levels, a very peculiar thing to do in such a high-stress claim situation for town. He seems to consider his options during this claim war, but I sincerely doubt he actually did consider anything. In the end he is still reading Vivax as scum.[/quote]
Like here in the quote you're talking about, literally everything you're talking about is explained. He considers Toad almost certainly town because he doesn't think mafia ever makes that play. He says that it's possible there could be 2 vigs but he considers it less likely than Vivax fakeclaiming and whiffing. What is there to be explained?

[QUOTE]On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:Now it gets even weirder, we manage to get the wagon off of Vivax, and the night phase begins. For some reason, Artanis decides to town-read Vivax, before the night actions are even resolved. Then when the day begins (and KP is reduced), Artanis hard-reads Vivax town for his filter length, what!?

My theory at this point is that scum put both an RB and KP on Vivax. I believe that both Artanis and Onegu are scum due to this. I believe Artanis was looking to set himself up to look good before Vivax flipped town, and that he needed to substantiate his read after it became obvious Vivax lived through the KP. By extension, I think that Onegu is scum because in this world Onegu is never the save.

I think for a 3rd scum slam is still a good bet.[/QUOTE]
How was he setting himself up to look good if he called a presumed vig 100% mafia and voted him the whole way?



BTW what's ritoky's alignment in your opinion right now?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:20 GMT
#6478
aw fuck i fucked up the quote tags. 1s.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:22 GMT
#6482
On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 12:30 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 25 2015 12:29 Superbia wrote:
Artanis.

uh

why

lol


All right. So Artanis' day 1 is actually really really bad, with the exception if rayn ever flips mafia (which I severely doubt at this point).

He hard defends LS:

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town:
On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:
Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet.

I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won

Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you.

I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably)

With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it.

Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town?


from JoaT:
On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.

Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game

not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me.

Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different?

Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned.

I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled.
Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game.
So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh.
@Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why?
@ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other?


Oh god this post is so mafia

Have you played with LS before? This is how LS plays.

So he whiffed on LS. Okay...

On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:He calls toad scum and by proxy, defends Palmar who toad is tunneling. Interestingly, at this very point Artanis had no read on Palmar! He was reading him null!

Explain with quotes please, I'll go look for them on my own and we can compare notes.

On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:Then, when the claim wars happen, he completely flips on toad, and goes hard after vivax. This is after toad was his hard mafia read.

Yeah, typically when someone cc's vig in a game where the flavor implies that power roles are unique, your read tends to change in a hurry.

On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:We are left with this list:

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Votes as I see them:
Vivax (5): Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern
LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Vivax, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke
Artanis[Xp] (2): VisceraEyes, Eden1892
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, rsoultin
Toadesstern (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet
Eden1892 (1): ExO

Not Voting (1): Trfel

Only having 1.7 scumread is problematic. Was hoping this'd help more.


With the exception of possibly rayn, most of his reads are pretty shit. He leans town on two confirmed mafia (really bad) for seemingly no good reason whatsoever.

Now this is where it gets scummy, with the whole claim thing. There's a wagon on Vivax and a wagon starts on BM. As the wagon starts, Art calls it "pure" but refuses to switch. He gets called out by you (Eden) and he gives a half-assed excuse later. He seems to strongly consider the world in which both vigis are real:

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think Superbia might possibly be right. Host WIFOM time.
I know HtS likes her vigis because she hates lurkers. It's therefore very likely there's at least 1 vigi in the setup. Since the playercount wasn't fixed until the end, I find it plausible that the end balance was made by adding an additional vigi.

I'm not sure if I find that more plausible than that Vivax simply tried to fakeclaim and failed though. Toad definitely town for the CC, I just don't ever see mafia making that play when it isn't necessary.


But for a reason I don't share whatsoever, proceeds to call Vivax 100% scum anyway. Moreover, Artanis later finds the time to make a paint diagram on rayn's anger levels, a very peculiar thing to do in such a high-stress claim situation for town. He seems to consider his options during this claim war, but I sincerely doubt he actually did consider anything. In the end he is still reading Vivax as scum.

Like here in the quote you're talking about, literally everything you're talking about is explained. He considers Toad almost certainly town because he doesn't think mafia ever makes that play. He says that it's possible there could be 2 vigs but he considers it less likely than Vivax fakeclaiming and whiffing. What is there to be explained?

On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:Now it gets even weirder, we manage to get the wagon off of Vivax, and the night phase begins. For some reason, Artanis decides to town-read Vivax, before the night actions are even resolved. Then when the day begins (and KP is reduced), Artanis hard-reads Vivax town for his filter length, what!?

My theory at this point is that scum put both an RB and KP on Vivax. I believe that both Artanis and Onegu are scum due to this. I believe Artanis was looking to set himself up to look good before Vivax flipped town, and that he needed to substantiate his read after it became obvious Vivax lived through the KP. By extension, I think that Onegu is scum because in this world Onegu is never the save.

I think for a 3rd scum slam is still a good bet.

How was he setting himself up to look good if he called a presumed vig 100% mafia and voted him the whole way?



BTW what's ritoky's alignment in your opinion right now?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:23 GMT
#6484
already answered, ok.

So why do you believe all that? Your entire basis for your ritoky AND Onegu reads is the idea that mafia rb'd and shot Vivax. What is the basis for that idea?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:24 GMT
#6486
On March 25 2015 13:23 Superbia wrote:
Eden, would you agree that your read on me d1 based on the damdred/rayn thing has affected your read of me throughout the entire game?

No, considering I had you in my town pile between then and my more recent scumreading. What are you trying to say here?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:28 GMT
#6490
I do agree that Artanis flipping on Vivax like that is really weird.

Artanis, why did you change your mind on Vivax?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:29 GMT
#6492
I'm not sure yet that he's a better lynch than other people in my pile.

Although Superbia is doing a good job of getting himself off the list...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:31 GMT
#6494
Placeholder vote on Slam for now. Onegu still seems like an unlikely pick for mafia to me and I think Slam is the better lynch as of now.

But I gotta admit that Superbia might be getting somewhere with this Artanis thing. Gonna need to see how Arty responds.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:45 GMT
#6511
On March 25 2015 13:32 Trfel wrote:
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On March 25 2015 13:29 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm not sure yet that he's a better lynch than other people in my pile.

Although Superbia is doing a good job of getting himself off the list...
Eden, now that ritoky and Onegu have claimed VT...

What do you think about the game's power role balance?

2 vigilantes
1 jailkeeper
1 cop

Is that fair for a 15 town vs 5 scum game?

Thanks!

With scum rb and framer? I'd buy it
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:57 GMT
#6514
sicklucker confirmed town.

Let's see.

People I never lynch:
Eden
Trfel
Toad
Vivax
sicklucker

The rest:
Onegu
Damdred
Artanis
Fecalfeast
Breshke
Superbia
ritoky
Alakaslam

10 to 3, no more extra KP, should be 3 MLs and 3 mafia. I just need 2 people to escape that list and I can POE the game. Cool!

I'd evacuate Damdred, Onegu and Breshke. I think I can make pretty good town cases on all of them. That leaves five kills and as long as we hit mafia at any point before running out of MLs, we have the opportunity to reconsider the two-vigs theory if we haven't won by the time we lynch the rest of the list.

And that's a pretty conservative list to me. The never kills are me, the two vigs for whom there is strong evidence to suggest both are true, and the two people who straight up killed scum with the orb. Damdred and Breshke are my top evacuations because both of them are putting forth pretty insightful analysis that's far more reminiscent of their town games. I'm not saying it's out of bounds of their scum games per se but they'd both have to have stepped up significantly. Onegu I just don't think is mafia fakeclaiming mason - Vivax made the point that it really makes no sense for mafia to shoot Holyflare if they want to pimp the Onegu-is-mason theory, since they know Holyflare is making up the mason thing and thus shooting him and flipping him spoils the whole thing.

That already leaves me with five people, and of them it's hard for me to believe that Superbia and Artanis are on a team. If we assume Artanis is mafia, then Superbia's case is hella good. Do we really think the mafia sacs the one player that infiltrated the town circle to prop up a guy who was afk while town started trying to solve the game? Didn't think so. So there's at least 2 mafia outside of this duo.

Of the rest, I can see townie cases for Fecalfeast and for ritoky. I think ritoky is more likely to flip scum but I figure I can sort that out later. These guys don't have to be opposite-aligned, but unless both of them are mafia...

Slam is mafia.

So honestly my question for today is "Am I in a world where Fecalfeast and ritoky are both mafia?" If not then we 100% lynch Slam. If so then we 100% lynch them.

Meanwhile I will leave Superbia and Artanis to their duel.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 04:58 GMT
#6515
On March 25 2015 13:49 Trfel wrote:
Eden, am I right to trust you in this game?

Ya. Why wouldn't you be?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 05:01 GMT
#6516
Literally this is how today should go.

1. Are Artanis and Superbia both town?
If yes goto 3.
If no goto 2.

2. Are Fecalfeast and ritoky both mafia?
If yes lynch either one.
If no goto 3.

3. Lynch Slam
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 05:04 GMT
#6517
All my possible mafia teams rn:

Artanis/Fecalfeast/ritoky
Superbia/Fecalfeast/ritoky
Artanis/Fecalfeast/Alakaslam
Artanis/ritoky/Alakaslam
Superbia/Fecalfeast/Alakaslam
Superbia/ritoky/Alakaslam

Alakaslam: 67% chance scum
Fecalfeast: 67% chance scum
ritoky: 67% chance scum
Superbia: 50% chance scum
Artanis: 50% chance scum

Lynch should be among Slam/FF/ritoky. Slam easily scummiest of the 3.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 05:34 GMT
#6533
On March 25 2015 14:31 sicklucker wrote:
Theres also the fact rstoulins claim was weird and she coulda been vet. Either way I think its enough reason to not kill super today plus he seems to be trying now

correct

slam is best lynch
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 05:56 GMT
#6550
if onegu is town his claim literally bought a mislynch. how are people saying it didn't help town?

you can say it if you think he's mafia and you think he got jailed carrying kp but it makes 0 sense to say it didn't help town when he bought an ML
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 05:58 GMT
#6553
On March 25 2015 14:39 Trfel wrote:
Sorry, can I get answers to these questions? Links to previous posts are fine. But I'd like fairly concise explanations.

Why is Alakaslam scum?

Why is Onegu town?

Why is ritoky town? (given how he crushed town as scum in Down Under 2)

slam is scum thru POE and not making even the slightest iota of effort to solve the game

onegu is town thru the sequence of mason claim + rsoultin jailing him + hf being shot. the most plausible explanation of this sequence, by far, is that scum believed they were masons together and tried to shoot both of them

ritoky is town thru... thru... well idk i have him in my POE. LOL
but he's trying which is better than can be said for slam
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 05:59 GMT
#6554
On March 25 2015 14:57 ritoky wrote:
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On March 25 2015 14:53 Onegu wrote:
On March 25 2015 14:49 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2015 14:46 Onegu wrote:
On March 25 2015 14:44 ritoky wrote:
oh look he rescinded his mason claim, saw that coming.

my gut response is to just lynch onegu cuz fuck your fake claim BS, but i feel like i need to resist that urge and actually read the following responses



Like how did a fake mason claim hurt town if I'm town, and how is it smart as scum. Therefor it's not BS.


what did you gain from the claim? from my perspective all it added was unnecessary confusion and lies that makes the game harder to solve. that is mafia's job, not town. it's not like your claim led to a lynch or found scum, it just made the game harder for everyone else except the mafia. thus it is BS.



Nope it has confirmed sicklucker as town, plus I'm going to go back to the point I claimed mason with Rayn to see who didn't believe, but that is moreso if you flip scum which I don't think is likely. Also it made mafia miss a shot as I got n1 protection while getting shot. So what were you saying about it not helping town?


isn't SL town for shooting a mafia in the face? and idk shit about the night actions, but if it did something, then cool, but dunno if it counterbalances the confusion caused.

so some temporary conclusion that didn't really hurt our scumhunting efforts

vs

buying an ML

ez trade ez life
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 06:54 GMT
#6572
meh sorry can't take Damdred out as of yet. But if everyone else on that list is someone you're cool with then I'm sure you'll have time to convince me otherwise, yeah?

and trfel... how is slam interesting this game? his 'evolving' read on holyflare is omgus, then dropping it when no one wanted to do anything with it. other than that he's done naught but excuse his inactivity, post off-topic and make bizarro world martyr posts about killing him so we can figure out we're wrong

like you have a really really low bar set for interesting if slam's play this game is interesting lmao
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 08:39 GMT
#6586
ff i moved you into my poe list because

(a) i tried to make it as conservative as possible so as to maximize its odds of success; more stringent requirements for not being lynched = lower likelihood of false positive among the not-lynch group
(b) you really haven't done shit since your big case on ls that i can recall off the top of my head
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 08:41 GMT
#6587
slam i understand that this game is hella active and you're hella busy

but you're not helping me solve the game by asking me to lynch you (unless you're mafia)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 08:42 GMT
#6588
maybe i should just give y'all your artanis lynch?

this game suddenly got hard and i don't like it. :/
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 08:59 GMT
#6589
ritoky talk to me about this meta read Damdred's supposed to have on you. What is it, why is it so effective iyo, how accurate has it been, what makes you say Damdred hasn't been using it and what does it mean for his alignment that he hasn't?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 09:24 GMT
#6590
So I went back and read LS's old games, specifically the only one in the database where he's mafia. LS has quite a bit of trouble townreading his teammates. He bused pretty ruthlessly the entire way. I think LS has a lot of difficulty with townreading his teammates when he knows they're guilty. In a big game where a lot of people are getting townread, I think he maybe tr's one teammate tops.

So let's look...
On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote:
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On March 19 2015 22:56 Damdred wrote:
Ls what are your current reads

Town:

Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX.

rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT She also my whisper so listen to her on me.

Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :|

Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh.

Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again).

Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time.

Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him.

Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial.

Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker.

Null:

Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read.

Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia.

raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o

Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious.

Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh.

Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him.

sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him.

Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :|

Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post!

(not mentioned: Toadesstern, VisceraEyes)

Part of me wants to just take the plunge, say that LS tr'd none of his teammates and go from there. That'll put Superbia and Breshke in town pile and... leave me with six targets (Damdred, Artanis, Alakaslam, ritoky, Onegu, Fecalfeast) for six lynches. Huh.

I guess I'll start with those guys and see if I feel that LS was unduly suspicious of them relative to their posting and thread sentiment about them at the time. That seems like the best place to look for LS tmi'ing his partners mafia.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 09:27 GMT
#6591
lol he ebwop'd ve into the post... and called ve town

this guy is 100% working with extra information
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 09:28 GMT
#6592
On March 19 2015 23:41 Vivax wrote:
How is that list town. It's void of scumreads, it's like a big "DONT HURT ME PLS".

big ups to this guy for immediately noticing the issue btw
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 15:16 GMT
#6622
On March 21 2015 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar
Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred
LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Onegu
Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes
sicklucker (1): Alakaslam

D1 vote count with my best guessed at alignment filled in. If your name doesn't have a color, you're not lock clear town to me right now. I have a few townleans obviously but as I said before, I'm trying to be more conservative with my town circle to minimize my chance of having false positives in that town circle.

I've already talked about why I think Superbia's vote was really shady. He spends most of d1 pinging mafia!LS for inactivity without actually interacting with LS or trying to question him to develop a read. He ends up narrowing down his desired lynch to LS or sl. He also comes down firmly on the side of not wanting to lynch a vig claimant. But then with the opportunity to get either of his desired lynches as alternative wagons to one of the vig claimants (LS and sl both were tied with BM at 3 with a half-hour to go and a lot of people online), Superbia flips his vote to BM while grumbling to HF about BM flipping town. This doesn't necessarily make Superbia mafia, as I've done this several times before as town, but it's inevitably because I either doubted my read at the last second or got frustrated that no one was listening to me, and importantly, it comes after pushing my read hard to begin with. Superbia basically claimed that he didn't really doubt his read, but that he felt no one would listen to him; but he also never made a strong effort to be listened to.

Superbia, if you were reasonably confident that one of LS or sl were mafia, why did you not ever try to convince people to vote for either of them when you had the opening?

I'm gonna go through the rest of the players whose names aren't colored up there and work them out in a similar manner.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 15:45 GMT
#6625
I pored over Artanis's filter from the point where he initially votes Vivax to EOD1. It generally seems okay? I'm unimpressed because there's a whole lot of attempting to sheep other people, but I guess if you really are lost d1 then you sink your teeth into whatever lead you can find, even if it's someone else's. And once the vig claim came out I felt that he found a direction (lynch a vig claimant) that made sense (lynch Vivax out of the two b/c mafia!Toad never cc's there) and pushed it pretty effectively. And Vivax did raise his game after the first flip, imo, so Artanis deciding to tr him for it isn't unreasonable (even if the actual turnabout was a bit abrupt).
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 15:48 GMT
#6626
tbh I could see FF being mafia by way of his case being tmi.

but I guess I'd have to actually read it all the way through instead of skimming excerpts, deciding I liked the points being made and moving on to something else
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 16:12 GMT
#6629
On March 26 2015 00:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
tbh I could see FF being mafia by way of his case being tmi.

but I guess I'd have to actually read it all the way through instead of skimming excerpts, deciding I liked the points being made and moving on to something else


I think the fact he answers to Artanis about VE but not his own case is telling on its own. After I write such a massive thing I see no reason not to talk about it and instead put my emphasis on VE whom I'm not reading either way.

Agreed, and here's some more stuff:
On March 21 2015 01:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I think I'm changing my read from <LS is scum and rso is bad> to <Rso is scum and LS lives in her pocket>

On March 21 2015 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I kinda still think LS is mafiaaaa

On March 21 2015 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm going to side with the counter claimer on this one. I don't see mafia toad going for the 1 for 1 here

On March 21 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On March 21 2015 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am sorry rsoultin but this is what you get when you treat me like this.

why do you believe toad over vivax?

On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game

On March 21 2015 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
We should lynch LS

This is all of FF's mentions of LS of note after the non-questioning non-session Vivax is talking about, with a free prize inside (FF's evolution on the vigs). It's like FF completely forgets about his own case on LS. And if we thought Superbia was shady for not pushing a read on LS when it mattered then holy shit Fecalfeast is shady. Guy has a monster case that turns out to be right on LS. For whatever reason he first decides Toad must be town, then flips to Toad being mafia with LS.

Fecalfeast, why did you change your mind so suddenly on Toad vs Vivax?

But ok, let's assume there's a legit reason for that. Fine. So FF thinks LS and Toad are on a team together. The thread is torn between the sentiment that one of the vigs needs to be lynched and the sentiment that they should be left alive until night actions to figure it out. At the time of FF's post, Vivax is the lead wagon with 7 votes, Toad is 2nd with 4, LS is 3rd with 3. Why isn't FF posting his case again or engaging anybody to convince them to vote LS?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 16:15 GMT
#6630
FF goes to all this effort to post this big case that's actually really on-point, then literally never engages anybody about it and lets it drop. Considering most of the people who had played with LS before were unsure on him or felt he was town, this is really weird for two reasons: (1) It indicates possible tmi and (2) It shows a distinct lack of concern about actually convincing people LS is mafia.

Then FF basically drops off the face of the Earth after n1. ~7pg filter through d1, which is a pretty reasonable posting rate for a game this big and high-traffic. ~3pg filter after that, which is basically not even playing the game.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 16:55 GMT
#6632
On March 19 2015 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
well that leaves me with only SL to ask

SL

SL is just wifom to me. He needs to die a few times as town and come around to knowledge of the game before I can really do much with him.

I had a policy of lynching him. If no one is going for HF (really hard d1 with good reason, but I reiterate he is 80% Mafia in my eyes) I am not agianst SL lynch.

On March 19 2015 10:10 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 19 2015 10:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously....?

"I am not agianst SL lynch."
"why are you not against an sl lynch"
"because i want to lynch you!"
"I'm not reading the thread because i'm so certain on hf!"

^ somehow you know you want to lynch sl (for unknown reasons still because you didn't even answer me) and you ignore the entire thread where you might be wrong on me even though i've found this guy lying twice AND QUOTED IT

and NOW you are trying to get people OFF of SL because I am pushing it WITHOUT EVEN READING THE QUOTES OR GAMES YOURSELF


wtfh slam

I did answer you. SL is a lynch I am not against, nor for. You keep saying I am for it, you obviously don't believe me.

Also, my reason for not being against SL lynch was a policy I held where I wanted him lynched all the time. But he has been in games since then, so I shouldn't stick with it.

On March 21 2015 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

sicklucker (1): Alakaslam

s e e m s l e g i t
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 16:58 GMT
#6633
On March 26 2015 01:41 Trfel wrote:
I looked at what Alakaslam said once he came back.

Unfortunately, I was gone by that point, so I couldn't interact with him.

But I actually put him at a town lead at this point. His play is just so markedly different from his scum play last game.

If Alakaslam is lynched, it should be due to interactions with flipped mafia.

explain, i have no scum priors on slam

specifically the last point because why just his interactions with flipped mafia?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:15 GMT
#6643
On March 26 2015 02:13 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 25 2015 21:12 Breshke wrote:
sup. Uni decided to shit on me today and it will probably be the same case tomorrow some im probably going to be less help than i would normally be.

Superbia you need to stop asking me if i was lurking when i rock up before deadline. deadline is in the morning for me i normally only wake up like an hour beforehand and that's if it is actually important.

I consider eden to be the only 100% lock clear along with SL and trefel. I cannot imagine a situation where i would ever vote to lynch these three.

I also would not currently lynch either of the vigis, superbia or damdred today. Artanis probably also goes in this category but he is at the bottom of the bunch for me.

This leaves me with Onegu, slam, FF, and ritoky.

I am hoping eden and trefel end up going on one of these four and I can jsut sheep them and be super useless this day phase. I know this post is shit but I don't have much time or willpower for much more at the moment.


Maybe you can help me with this. Why are you sheeping eden?

I am The Rock, we already established this.

You said the key to understanding your alignment is engaging you. How am I supposed to do that? You said you lynched sicklucker based on him being "pure WIFOM." No attempt to understand his alignment?

I don't even know what I'm supposed to engage you on, because for having a 9pg filter all I can remember from you is OMGUS Holyflare, plynch sicklucker, inactivity johns and martyrdom. :/
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:18 GMT
#6646
I'm here, sell me on it, Slam.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:20 GMT
#6649
On March 26 2015 02:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 02:15 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 25 2015 21:12 Breshke wrote:
sup. Uni decided to shit on me today and it will probably be the same case tomorrow some im probably going to be less help than i would normally be.

Superbia you need to stop asking me if i was lurking when i rock up before deadline. deadline is in the morning for me i normally only wake up like an hour beforehand and that's if it is actually important.

I consider eden to be the only 100% lock clear along with SL and trefel. I cannot imagine a situation where i would ever vote to lynch these three.

I also would not currently lynch either of the vigis, superbia or damdred today. Artanis probably also goes in this category but he is at the bottom of the bunch for me.

This leaves me with Onegu, slam, FF, and ritoky.

I am hoping eden and trefel end up going on one of these four and I can jsut sheep them and be super useless this day phase. I know this post is shit but I don't have much time or willpower for much more at the moment.


Maybe you can help me with this. Why are you sheeping eden?

I am The Rock, we already established this.

You said the key to understanding your alignment is engaging you. How am I supposed to do that? You said you lynched sicklucker based on him being "pure WIFOM." No attempt to understand his alignment?

I don't even know what I'm supposed to engage you on, because for having a 9pg filter all I can remember from you is OMGUS Holyflare, plynch sicklucker, inactivity johns and martyrdom. :/

What's your answer to that?

Jabroni please
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:26 GMT
#6655
On March 26 2015 02:24 Onegu wrote:
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On March 03 2015 16:31 Onegu wrote:
On March 03 2015 12:16 prplhz wrote:
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@rsoultin Can you show me this Alakaslam bored/notbored read thing you have going on? I just checked out these scum games 1 3 7 and these town games 1 51 i and I don't see it.



No, my meta read is good on slam rsoultins is bad. Count how many times he has said chupazi, Svengali, or hijole this game(after day post) multiply by (5+day #) then subtract he post count (including pregame) if you are in the negative he is scum. In the positive he is town.


holy shit is this real? lmfao
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:30 GMT
#6658
my god

this might be the most brilliant thing i've ever read in the field of mafia meta reads
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:34 GMT
#6659
chupazi: 5
hijole: 6
svengali: 2

tot = 13

* 5 = 65

- 184 = way below 0

= scum

...lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:35 GMT
#6661
On March 26 2015 02:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 02:26 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:24 Onegu wrote:
On March 03 2015 16:31 Onegu wrote:
On March 03 2015 12:16 prplhz wrote:
26

@rsoultin Can you show me this Alakaslam bored/notbored read thing you have going on? I just checked out these scum games 1 3 7 and these town games 1 51 i and I don't see it.



No, my meta read is good on slam rsoultins is bad. Count how many times he has said chupazi, Svengali, or hijole this game(after day post) multiply by (5+day #) then subtract he post count (including pregame) if you are in the negative he is scum. In the positive he is town.


holy shit is this real? lmfao
Eden, this is what I'm saying. Do you think it is a coincidence that Alakaslam decided to play "normally", without CHUPAZI, svengali, or hijole, the game after this "Alakaslam formula" was unveiled? I certainly don't.

i mean, most likely no?

but if this is him playing normally... refer to my post summarizing his game for why i'm unimpressed

and now he's stealth voting me without directing me to figure out how to read him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:36 GMT
#6663
so Slam. I ask again. you only contended that my summary was wrong in that your martyrdom was limited.

regardless based on your body of work it's pretty much impossible for me to believe you're town.

how am I supposed to change my mind about you? what am I supposed to be seeing? help me help you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:45 GMT
#6668
On March 26 2015 02:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gone for most of the evening in 8 min btw so if you have questions ask them now

why should i tr slam
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 17:47 GMT
#6669
i ask because typically even the scummiest scummers do SOME townie things

and

i can only think of the initial reaction to hf's push on slam that MAYBE felt townie (calling him out on logic fallacies specifically), but that hardly counts for shit this late in the game

and

i can't tell if that's because i'm hella right and he's obvious scum
or if i'm hella wrong and not seeing the reasons he's town bc confirmation bias
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:20 GMT
#6717
dang putting a bunk bed together is tough
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:26 GMT
#6721
On March 26 2015 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 26 2015 02:39 Trfel wrote:
It is strange that Alalaslam calls Eden scum for trying to figure out his alignment, but calls Vivax scum for wanting to lynch him today, which is his request.

NEITHER OF EDEN OR VIVAX ARE ACTUALLY TRYING YOU FOOL. They are simply taunting me and changing what I say. They refuse to read what I have actually said and are taking advantage of my being so behind on the game by refusing to answer anything I ask.

I'm not taunting you. You literally have only asked me so far what I think of you calling me scum. It's ridiculous because I'm obviously town, it proves nothing about the game because you're either inattentive or mafia or both which I already knew.

On March 26 2015 03:09 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 26 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote:
so Slam. I ask again. you only contended that my summary was wrong in that your martyrdom was limited.

regardless based on your body of work it's pretty much impossible for me to believe you're town.

how am I supposed to change my mind about you? what am I supposed to be seeing? help me help you

You are supposed to be seeing frustration and inability to aid, you should see a logic that is trying to aid town from a position of literally no information.

You should see me GIVING A FUCK BECAUSE AS SCUM I WOULDNT. I WOULD JUST LOL AT YOU AND GO FOR YOUR nk EARLIER.

You should see me popping in so rarely and only saying things like "page 302, boss 302" and my opinion on things here and there.

You should have fucking lynches me when I asked for it, not always as the pocket lynch at the end until scum finds they need an ML NOW

this is why you are so scum in my eyes. I can see a scum strategy and you are following it better than the town strategy and you refuse to inform me.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOUKD SEE HILY SHIT

NO JNFORMATION LIKE WTF I COULD ASK MY SCUMTEAM TO KEEP ME UPDATED VERSUS ROLLING OVER USELESS LIKE THIS. I COULD AT LEAST ACT LIKE I WAS IP ON THE THREAD

I don't want to fucking lynch you if I don't have to. Holy shit. I don't know what part of that isn't clear since I've repeatedly said "you are not helping me by trying to get me to lynch you." I have you in my POE pile. You know what that means? I have other people I don't want to lynch, I don't know what you are and I'm trying to narrow the game down to where I can lynch you regardless of your alignment and still win. Getting yourself lynched literally changes nothing about the game. Doing things that I can townread you off of OTOH will allow me to move you out of the POE list and (if you're town) get me that much closer to winning.

Refuse to inform you about what? The 300 pages you're behind on? Ain't nobody got time to go over everything. What do you want to know?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:32 GMT
#6722
On March 26 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 04:20 Eden1892 wrote:
dang putting a bunk bed together is tough
Eden!

Talk to me.

I want to lynch Onegu. Why is this a bad idea, and who do you want to lynch, and why?

I just don't see Onegu fakeclaiming mason as mafia and then actually riding with it when Holyflare decided to claim it with him. Like what's the plan for doing that? As Vivax pointed out earlier, the instant Holyflare flipped not-mason we all started looking hard at Onegu being mafia. Knowing that the scumteam was likely to want to shoot Holyflare if they could, it seems unnecessarily risky for Onegu to followthrough like he did.

I'd rather lynch Fecalfeast for the stuff I said earlier (and shouts to Vivax for noting it first). He made this big case on LS that was pretty legit and then immediately dropped it and literally never brought it up again until it was time to claim kudos for catching LS. When he had the opportunity to push his lynch at eod1 he never does so. Then once town starts getting organized he just checks out of the game, which seems consistent with a mafia team that was starting to struggle to disrupt the town team's investigations. (admittedly there might be extenuating circumstances for his absence, but until i see them i can't assume that)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:34 GMT
#6723
On March 26 2015 03:14 Alakaslam wrote:
You know what Eden I bet you don't play offsite much anymore. I think you would find that you are not nearly as good as you think you are because the way you play is way too open to reading based purely on activity which is a massive TL thing. You don't see this played up so strongly anywhere else.

wow somehow i'm completely unconvinced to change anything about what i'm doing zzz
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:35 GMT
#6724
On March 26 2015 03:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 03:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:26 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, if you are town, it's obvious that you don't want to be lynched later in the game. I'm assuming this is because later lynches feel more importance, particularly LYLO. And you would feel more guilty being lynched later as opposed to right now.

However, overall, all lynches carry equal weight. If you get mislynched now, that's one mislynch, the same as if you were mislyched at LYLO. And that's why it doesn't help town to mislynch you now. So asking to be lynched now or never isn't something that town can comply with.

I want to delay your lynch for one day, and preferably for much more than that.

If you are town, it would be nice to see you read over the last 5-10 pages (or however much you are willing to read and have time for) and then post your thoughts based on those pages. No one expects you to read the entire thread, in fact most people here have not done so. The nice thing is that by talking with people who have read the entire thread, you can sort of get okay reads.
Alakaslam, this is why it doesn't make sense for town to decide to lynch you early or never.

This is false because if I was lynched earlier, eden's world would be smashed and people sheeping Eden would have to wake up and reevaluate.

If town can actually afford it my lynch could be the best thing that happens to it.

But I am beginning to doubt that town can afford it.

it's fucking 10 to 3 right now. 10. to 3.

this setup is effectively a 10-3 vanilla game except that we have like 4 confirmed-in-all-but-name townies in our two claimed vigs, sicklucker and trfel

we can absolutely afford your ML BUT IF IT WOULD BE A MISLYNCH I DON'T FUCKING WANT TO DO IT
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:37 GMT
#6726
On March 26 2015 03:42 Vivax wrote:
Also SLam, we're in an amazing spot. That talk of mislynches being pushed and scum being in a sick spot makes no sense, D1 we lynched a guy who was a prime vig target when I started playing, D2 we lynched scum, today we lynch another guy nobody wants at lylo. It's going swimmingly!

it's why he's probably town though

he seems genuinely completely unaware of how bad a spot scum is in right now

obviously "he could be faking it" but i don't think he is.

slam prolly town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:37 GMT
#6727
yea that vote doesn't say anything for onegu's alignment lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:41 GMT
#6728
oh it's 9-3 lol

even better i guess, one fewer townie to sort out.

will not lynch:
myself
vivax
toad
trfel
sl

probably will not lynch:
artie
slam
damd
onegu

remaining:
superbia
fecalfeast
ritoky
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:54 GMT
#6732
On March 26 2015 04:48 Damdred wrote:
It makes me sad Eden you have dropped me from no lynch to probably not lynch.

Slam feels town to me, Oneg play doesn't make total sense as scum as I said before.

Why isn't breshke in your list?

THAT'S WHO I FORGOT LOL

god it was driving me NUTS trying to figure that out

he's in probs not lynch

and don't feel bad damd. literally everyone that isn't me or role-confirmed-town is out of definitely not lynch. like i said it's about making the POE more accurate
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 19:55 GMT
#6733
On March 26 2015 04:49 Damdred wrote:
Kinda bothers me Palmar left breshke out for so long and didn't interact with him. He (breshke) called out LS early in the night when its obvious LS wants out of the game and bresh disappears off almost everyone radar now

i have him in probs not lynch b/c i felt like he was productive when he was around... i'm not married to that read though
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 20:30 GMT
#6744
On March 26 2015 04:58 Damdred wrote:
Tell me how he was productive exactly and quote things

meh cba lol

make your case for why he's mafia. i'm open to it
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 20:32 GMT
#6746
On March 26 2015 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 04:26 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:39 Trfel wrote:
It is strange that Alalaslam calls Eden scum for trying to figure out his alignment, but calls Vivax scum for wanting to lynch him today, which is his request.

NEITHER OF EDEN OR VIVAX ARE ACTUALLY TRYING YOU FOOL. They are simply taunting me and changing what I say. They refuse to read what I have actually said and are taking advantage of my being so behind on the game by refusing to answer anything I ask.

I'm not taunting you. You literally have only asked me so far what I think of you calling me scum. It's ridiculous because I'm obviously town, it proves nothing about the game because you're either inattentive or mafia or both which I already knew.

On March 26 2015 03:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote:
so Slam. I ask again. you only contended that my summary was wrong in that your martyrdom was limited.

regardless based on your body of work it's pretty much impossible for me to believe you're town.

how am I supposed to change my mind about you? what am I supposed to be seeing? help me help you

You are supposed to be seeing frustration and inability to aid, you should see a logic that is trying to aid town from a position of literally no information.

You should see me GIVING A FUCK BECAUSE AS SCUM I WOULDNT. I WOULD JUST LOL AT YOU AND GO FOR YOUR nk EARLIER.

You should see me popping in so rarely and only saying things like "page 302, boss 302" and my opinion on things here and there.

You should have fucking lynches me when I asked for it, not always as the pocket lynch at the end until scum finds they need an ML NOW

this is why you are so scum in my eyes. I can see a scum strategy and you are following it better than the town strategy and you refuse to inform me.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOUKD SEE HILY SHIT

NO JNFORMATION LIKE WTF I COULD ASK MY SCUMTEAM TO KEEP ME UPDATED VERSUS ROLLING OVER USELESS LIKE THIS. I COULD AT LEAST ACT LIKE I WAS IP ON THE THREAD

I don't want to fucking lynch you if I don't have to. Holy shit. I don't know what part of that isn't clear since I've repeatedly said "you are not helping me by trying to get me to lynch you." I have you in my POE pile. You know what that means? I have other people I don't want to lynch, I don't know what you are and I'm trying to narrow the game down to where I can lynch you regardless of your alignment and still win. Getting yourself lynched literally changes nothing about the game. Doing things that I can townread you off of OTOH will allow me to move you out of the POE list and (if you're town) get me that much closer to winning.

Refuse to inform you about what? The 300 pages you're behind on? Ain't nobody got time to go over everything. What do you want to know?

The answers to the questions I was asking.

You aren't a blue claim, so I don't see how you can be confirmed town. I see way too much "confirmed town" being thrown about this game, you aren't just PoE me as you have been snidely coloring me red since the start of the game.

...which questions...????? the only question you asked me is what i think of you calling me scum

which is that i don't give a fuck

and "snidely"? what?
i've been coloring you red since around d2 when you entered my poe pile
it's for the same things as i've said before

but i think the whole "i would ask my teammates for help" thing made sense
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 20:46 GMT
#6748
On March 26 2015 05:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 05:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 26 2015 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 04:26 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:39 Trfel wrote:
It is strange that Alalaslam calls Eden scum for trying to figure out his alignment, but calls Vivax scum for wanting to lynch him today, which is his request.

NEITHER OF EDEN OR VIVAX ARE ACTUALLY TRYING YOU FOOL. They are simply taunting me and changing what I say. They refuse to read what I have actually said and are taking advantage of my being so behind on the game by refusing to answer anything I ask.

I'm not taunting you. You literally have only asked me so far what I think of you calling me scum. It's ridiculous because I'm obviously town, it proves nothing about the game because you're either inattentive or mafia or both which I already knew.

On March 26 2015 03:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote:
so Slam. I ask again. you only contended that my summary was wrong in that your martyrdom was limited.

regardless based on your body of work it's pretty much impossible for me to believe you're town.

how am I supposed to change my mind about you? what am I supposed to be seeing? help me help you

You are supposed to be seeing frustration and inability to aid, you should see a logic that is trying to aid town from a position of literally no information.

You should see me GIVING A FUCK BECAUSE AS SCUM I WOULDNT. I WOULD JUST LOL AT YOU AND GO FOR YOUR nk EARLIER.

You should see me popping in so rarely and only saying things like "page 302, boss 302" and my opinion on things here and there.

You should have fucking lynches me when I asked for it, not always as the pocket lynch at the end until scum finds they need an ML NOW

this is why you are so scum in my eyes. I can see a scum strategy and you are following it better than the town strategy and you refuse to inform me.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOUKD SEE HILY SHIT

NO JNFORMATION LIKE WTF I COULD ASK MY SCUMTEAM TO KEEP ME UPDATED VERSUS ROLLING OVER USELESS LIKE THIS. I COULD AT LEAST ACT LIKE I WAS IP ON THE THREAD

I don't want to fucking lynch you if I don't have to. Holy shit. I don't know what part of that isn't clear since I've repeatedly said "you are not helping me by trying to get me to lynch you." I have you in my POE pile. You know what that means? I have other people I don't want to lynch, I don't know what you are and I'm trying to narrow the game down to where I can lynch you regardless of your alignment and still win. Getting yourself lynched literally changes nothing about the game. Doing things that I can townread you off of OTOH will allow me to move you out of the POE list and (if you're town) get me that much closer to winning.

Refuse to inform you about what? The 300 pages you're behind on? Ain't nobody got time to go over everything. What do you want to know?

The answers to the questions I was asking.

You aren't a blue claim, so I don't see how you can be confirmed town. I see way too much "confirmed town" being thrown about this game, you aren't just PoE me as you have been snidely coloring me red since the start of the game.

...which questions...????? the only question you asked me is what i think of you calling me scum

which is that i don't give a fuck

and "snidely"? what?
i've been coloring you red since around d2 when you entered my poe pile
it's for the same things as i've said before

but i think the whole "i would ask my teammates for help" thing made sense


Lol how? Scum tends to overestimate town cred and is usually quite willing to bus. When they get Palmar on their team his first lines in the qt will be "Ok guys, let's ahrd defend each other" unless he thinks the game is lost form the start. I can provide examples from Titanic where I was scum with him.

Point being: It's hard to not be right when you're scum. It's much more attractive to try nd be in a spot where you seem to be right most of the time. Alakaslam for me is excempt from this reasoning as the time I witnessed his scum play (on an OMGUS game where he mislynched me) he would simply pile up on mislynches. He doesn't really give a fuck this game unless people call him scum, he went apeshit when HF called him scum and he goes apeshit when we want to lynch him, otherwise not much to see here. Literally no logical reason to have him in this game.

slam, were he lynched right now, would be lynched for not doing anything to find mafia

that's not something you get much in the way of cred for

he just seems so... out of it. like he really thinks scum is in this incredible position right now when we have 4 role-confirmed-towns in a game of 13 people and 3 mafia. and he's just striking out at random people like me instead of trying to pile on ml's. i feel like he would be a little more aware of the game state if he were mafia since he'd have 2 more people he could bother for advice / information
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:05 GMT
#6752
Why doesn't anybody want to lynch Fecalfeast?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:27 GMT
#6757
On March 26 2015 07:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 07:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Why doesn't anybody want to lynch Fecalfeast?


Same for Slam? People still sitting on onegu for the most part.

Did you decide to TR slam? I'm 100 % sure you would regret it at lylo to leave him alive, whereas you could lynch FF without batting an eyelid. Keep it rational without pretendin to think you can read slam either way. The road to victory is paved with incognito-free slabs.

For now. Maybe I would regret it, but I'll frankly be shocked if I made it to LYLO to make that decision. We've got 3 ml's to give so even if both vigs get shot before me and we whiff on all 3 lynches, it won't be my call.

For now I think Slam has a lower probability of flipping scum than Fecalfeast. That's all I care about right now.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:30 GMT
#6759
Vivax, what is more rational about lynching someone I think is town but can't read over someone I think is mafia and can read? (Presuming I can't read Slam)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:36 GMT
#6761
On March 26 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 07:27 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 26 2015 07:14 Vivax wrote:
On March 26 2015 07:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Why doesn't anybody want to lynch Fecalfeast?


Same for Slam? People still sitting on onegu for the most part.

Did you decide to TR slam? I'm 100 % sure you would regret it at lylo to leave him alive, whereas you could lynch FF without batting an eyelid. Keep it rational without pretendin to think you can read slam either way. The road to victory is paved with incognito-free slabs.

For now. Maybe I would regret it, but I'll frankly be shocked if I made it to LYLO to make that decision. We've got 3 ml's to give so even if both vigs get shot before me and we whiff on all 3 lynches, it won't be my call.

For now I think Slam has a lower probability of flipping scum than Fecalfeast. That's all I care about right now.


According to your former reasoning they have equal chance.

Why has Slam lower prob now?

Fecalfeast's claim to town status is making a solid case on mafia that he promptly drops and never revisits.

Slam's claim to town status is an unawareness of the game state that seems virtually impossible to reconcile with a mafia mindset.

I'm far more convinced by the latter rn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:37 GMT
#6762
On March 26 2015 07:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Vivax, what is more rational about lynching someone I think is town but can't read over someone I think is mafia and can read? (Presuming I can't read Slam)



If you think you can't read him you can't think he's town? At the very least you should assume that you aren't able to think he is either?

Even if I can't read him and drop my town read that's null. Which is still irrational to lynch over scum
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:38 GMT
#6764
This is so confusing Vivax. Do you not think FF is mafia? The core idea here was yours for goodness' sake. But now that I'm actually down to pursue it you're wanting to lynch someone because they're hard to read and you don't want them in LYLO? Why not just avoid ever getting to LYLO by lynching mafia?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:40 GMT
#6765
On March 26 2015 07:38 Vivax wrote:
Objectively the other possible reason is that they didn't know who else to RB anyway?

This is kinda where I am now. Admittedly I forgot about the Rb....
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:44 GMT
#6769
On March 26 2015 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 07:38 Eden1892 wrote:
This is so confusing Vivax. Do you not think FF is mafia? The core idea here was yours for goodness' sake. But now that I'm actually down to pursue it you're wanting to lynch someone because they're hard to read and you don't want them in LYLO? Why not just avoid ever getting to LYLO by lynching mafia?


I do think FF is mafia but my current PoE also says Slam is mafia and I want to lynch Slam first cause I wanted to get rid of him N1 and to get rid of this fucking discussion that makes me starkraving mad whenever I want to lynch players like him. The grush57's, Chezinus and Slams of this world. I want a troll genocide on this forum so I can win games by reading people who allow themselves to be read, instead of keeping them around as an asset to mafia.

Dang tell me how you really feel. Lol

I'm just not sold on it yet, sorry. I'll think on it but I believe FF is the wiser choice.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 22:45 GMT
#6770
If it makes you feel better we can still hit Slam with the orb
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 23:21 GMT
#6779
On March 26 2015 07:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 07:45 Eden1892 wrote:
If it makes you feel better we can still hit Slam with the orb


I could say the same about FF. There is really no rational basis for you to spare slam on this day except your ego, which is the ego that makes policy lynches impossible in the games in which they are really needed.

It's not even that much of a policy lynch for me. I can think of some reasons for slam being scum I already have mentioned. But it's in the nature of the troll to be able to hide himself behind the argument that his lynch is "just a policy lynch", diffaming everyone pushing for him.

They are a massive annoyance to this game and people will invent all sort of stupid reasons to let them live until they reach the point where ONE lynch decides the outcome of the game, and mafia as well as town can go like "Well up until this point I've TR'd everyone else so let's lynch this guy nobody ever bothered with cause I've run out of options".

Get rid of Slam now and you will at the very least know where everybody really stands if we ever reach a lylo situation. Cause town will have to find scum in their townreads and scum will have to make up scumreads from their townreads.

What in gods name does my ego have to do with wanting to use our remaining orb to deal with a supposedly unreadable player and wanting to lynch someone I actually think is mafia?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 23:32 GMT
#6784
On March 26 2015 08:15 Damdred wrote:
btw I think its really depressing and stupid you guys are basically discussing POLICY lynching people after we killed two mafia instead of diving into their filters and looking for connections or weird interacitons between them.

Everyone really needs to read breshke filter and stop being lazy and give opinions, instead of talking abou tpolicy lynching slam/oneg at this point.

Can you summarize your findings on it Damdred? I'm not filter diving Breshke til I'm off work lol

What do you think of my argument on Fecalfeast?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 23:34 GMT
#6785
And I'm talking about NOT plunching... I want to orb Slam. That seems like the best use since it can cop check him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 25 2015 23:50 GMT
#6798
On March 26 2015 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 08:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 26 2015 08:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 26 2015 08:36 Vivax wrote:
On March 26 2015 08:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, eden could start figuring out what went wrong in his analysis of me before I flip town so that there's more to work with afterward.
Actually it'd be really cool if I could help with that! Who would be your top suspects if I flipped town eden?

I looked at breshke. I want to call him scum for not hardly interacting with LS or palmar, as well as for using the nightkill wifom to implicate me. I don't want to call him scum because he had palmar as scummy and because his tone feels more like a town who is busy to me.


Before I flip town bsbsbs
If I flipped town bsbsbs

Why do you base all your premises on your flip when the votecount suggests something else is going to happen? Where's the confidence?

I'm talking to eden, thanks


And I'm lynching you. Enjoy your conversation.

##Unvote
##Vote FecalFeast

Oh ok, in that case who would be your most likely suspect in the event I flipped town? This way I can both be useful to town and try to prove my innocence at the same time!

The same pool of suspects that would be likeliest to flip scum besides you.

What other answer was I supposed to give?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 00:17 GMT
#6812
Artanis who you wanna lynch
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 03:18 GMT
#6871
Move the fuck over Vivax, I got the REAL SCIENCE in this bitch.

Posting Rate Analysis: An Advanced Look


I've talked about this before, but never actually bothered to try to do this analysis for an actual game. See, I think the way a lot of people use filter lengths to analyze players is too simplistic. It's lazy, frankly. They just quote a number from a game, guesstimate whether it's relatively active or inactive given game size, and then say "oh well his filter is X pgs long so he's <alignment>." Naw bitches we steppin this game up.

I've created a formula to generate values for posting rates that correct for the sizes of games and the duration of that player's life in the game. Observe:

PostRt_This_Game = Filter_Length (pgs) / Player_Count (players) / Time_Alive (days) * 1000
PostRt_Alignment = AVG(PostRt_1, PostRt_2, ...)


So for example, if I'm playing in a 20 person game, my filter length is 20 pages and I die n1, my rating will be 1000 and I'll promptly commit seppuku because seriously that's absurd even for me. (20 / 20 / 1 * 1000 = 1 / 1 * 1000 = 1 * 1000 = 1000)

The determinations per alignment is just taking the average of the value for each game registered for each alignment. I used the database and in order to get a more accurate sampling, I defaulted to using games from only 2015. Where I didn't feel I had enough games to do it (i.e. had 1-2 games), I went as far back as I could to find enough samples to run it.

I went ahead and did the calculations for 3 of the 4 players I would lynch today. (Left out FF because he only had like 1-2 games in the database as mafia.)

Breshke
postrt_this_game: 0.8721
postrt_town: 5.0262
postrt_scum: 3.4863


Superbia
postrt_this_game: 2.3256
postrt_town: 8.5083
postrt_scum: 3.8854


ritoky
postrt_this_game: 4.7438
postrt_town: 3.7115

postrt_scum: 1.9685


So what did we find?
  • Breshke's posting rate is too damn low. Windows Calculator needed to use 10^-x syntax to display the value before I multiplied by 1000. My inclination is to say that this is indicative of mafia, but it's so far below his range as either alignment that it's tough to say.
  • Superbia's posting rate is pretty in-line with his scum game and substantially lower than his town game. Additionally, his posting rate follows a pretty normal scum pattern, where it's high to start but then drops off as the game goes on. I think this is pretty decent reason to believe he's mafia factoring in the other evidence against him.
  • ritoky's posting rate is actually pretty high! I adjusted the formula to only factor in players, pages and days since he jumped in. Despite replacing in he is actually pretty far ahead of his town pace and has left his scum pace in the dust. Some of the heightened activity can be attributed to in-game circumstances (namely, replacing into a slot almost universally scumread at the time), but unless we're to believe that accounts for a 250% increase in his posting rate, we would still find that his adjusted rate would be closer to his town meta than his mafia meta. He's earned a day as long as he continues to be involved and try to find mafia.


Unfortunately I couldn't do FF's, since he has one valid scum game (the 4-hr mini is probably too different to be factored here). But I think this is a decent start. Superbia likely mafia, ritoky likely town, Breshke maybe mafia but really his inactivity is too extreme to know what to do with it.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 03:22 GMT
#6872
Oh bummer I misexplained my formula ._______.

Sorry, instead of time alive, it's number of pages at time of death.

So amend my example to say that there were 100 pages of filter. 20 pgs of filter for me, I die n1, 20 players in game. 20 / 20 / 100 * 1000 = 10.0, which is still extreme lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 03:23 GMT
#6873
Anyway, I'm gonna go read Palmar's reads now and see what's up.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 03:32 GMT
#6874
wow how weird palmar never gives a read on me

BUT "HE TALKS 2ME LIKE IM CONFIRMD TOWN SO I MUST B TOWN" - tlmafia.net
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 04:32 GMT
#6880
._. the formula explicitly adjusts for big games
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 05:29 GMT
#6885
i guess i could reintroduce onegu to the lynch if trfel feels strong enough about it

i think right now my pile of lynches is:

- fecalfeast
- superbia
- breshke
- onegu
- ritoky

probably in that order, too.

definitely never lynch vigs, me, trfel, sl
almost definitely never lynch arty, damd
i keep waffling on slam but hopefully the orb sorts that out

although honestly we have 6 lynches... so unless there's a fakeclaimed vig i'm pretty sure we just lynch that whole list and call it a day
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 05:31 GMT
#6886
but there pretty much can't be a fakeclaimed vig, right? damdred said he's starting to think it over again, but i'm just not seeing it. vivax seems townie from gameplay, palmar's play d1 strongly makes me think both are town, toad p. much never fake-cc's vivax there... doesn't make sense.

basically unless arty or damd is playing a hell of a scum game we have the POE list right there
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 19:30 GMT
#7143
This might be the worst vote count I've ever seen. ~3.5 hrs to EOD, there's like 5 wagons that could get voted for and literally all of the most suspicious people except Fecalfeast are just sitting back not voting and waiting to see which wagon gets lynched.

Onegu if your vote is locked in why aren't you voting?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 19:32 GMT
#7144
unvoting btw

will be deciding my vote in the next hourish. apparently i have work from 4-10 tonight
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 19:33 GMT
#7147
Agreed

Vivax you're drunk go home
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 19:34 GMT
#7148
On March 27 2015 04:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Eden, do you think posts like this:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 12:53 Onegu wrote:
You dumb dumbs lynch me before Rayn. When I flip mason you lynch toad when he flips scum you lynch rsoul.
show good intent and the idea that Onegu was fakeclaiming to draw hits as well as help town or does it look like he abused it for something else?

I can't figure out what that something else would be. Looks completely within his town range and mafia range, also looks pointless
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 19:37 GMT
#7149
I think I'm just going to trust in 2 things:
(1) SCIENCE BITCH
(2) The fact that he seemed to just be arguing points with Artanis instead of actually trying to figure anything out or get anywherre

and say we lynch Superbia today.

(1) is pretty self-evident, of the people who I bothered to do my Advanced AnalysisTM on Superbia's data clearly fit scum profile rather than town.

(2), when I read that argument (and I'm gonna reread to find examples or reevaluate if I'm wrong), it seemed more like Superbia was interested in arguing the individual points Artanis was raising instead of demonstrating why he was town instead of scum. I got the impression that it was debate without a conclusion.

I'm not really sure why Artanis was satisfied with it, but I don't think it means anything for his alignment, so idgaf.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 19:49 GMT
#7156
On March 26 2015 22:36 Superbia wrote:
Your reads haven't been "fluid". They've been chaotic. I've demonstrated that your "reads" do not influence your progression whatsoever. You move top scum to hard town in a split second. You are town-read your previous top scum after he does exactly what you predicted he would do if he were scum (partial thanks to FF for pointing that out).

So this is a good example. This doesn't actually prove that Artanis is mafia. Superbia is interested in demonstrating that Artanis's reads were chaotic instead of fluid. Sweet argument, who the fuck cares, is he town or mafia for this? He almost gets to the point of arguing that something might be mafia-indicative (disconnect between stated reads and apparent progression of those reads), but he uses one example (Vivax read) that is actually pretty reasonable to flip like that on (since Vivax really dialed his game up around n1).

Later on is more damning to me:
On March 26 2015 22:54 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 26 2015 22:52 Superbia wrote:
On March 26 2015 22:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 26 2015 22:46 Superbia wrote:
On March 26 2015 22:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Because I checked his scum filters and they were at most 13 pages by D5. He's posted an immense amount more at that time as scum than he ever did in any of his previous games. I remember Vivax telling everyone how bad his scumgames were a while back. After the night I went into his games and saw that indeed he never posts this much as scum.


What's the parallel between this game and my scum games?

Combing through your filter was work enough already. I didn't have anything specific I wanted to meta you for this game, so I haven't checked them. With everyone I've meta'd, I've had a specific reason to look into their meta. With Vivax, it was because he posted a lot and I remember how he's mentioned having trouble posting as scum, so I wanted to verify that. With Onegu, it was because I was looking for something specific in that he scumread someone universally regarded as town. With you, it was simply PoE.


Bullshit. One of your arguments is that I have bussed in the past, indicating that you have some sort of realization of what my meta is. Draw parallels.

Which was my one game with you in Imperial. Stop telling me how to do my job and respond to the entire post if you can.


I bussed in Imperial? Hardly. I threw some scum on Ritoky (iirc), my team mate. That's about it. You can't half-ass this shit.

Expand all the quotes and read it. I snipped some of the older stuff that's not relevant, you can read that on your own if you wish. You'll notice that Superbia doesn't bother to rebut the arguments Artanis made about his play in this game, only instead demanding that Artanis also make a meta argument against him. When Artanis says he hasn't meta-read Superbia, Superbia rebuts by saying that one of Artanis's points was based on meta. He doesn't actually try to rebut the point being made based on meta, notice; he just corrects Artanis on the fact that one point was meta-based. Artanis rightfully tells him that he's arguing points instead of reads and demands his case be addressed again; Superbia responds by halfway-arguing that in one game in the past he didn't bus. This doesn't even rebut the substantive part of the one point being made (that Superbia buses as mafia), it's just semantics about one example. The rest of the case goes unaddressed.

This guy is just arguing to argue.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 19:53 GMT
#7161
The Superbia one is bad because
(1) Him starting to show doubt on his read on you doesn't mean anything. He could be backing off as scum because he doesn't want to argue with you further because he can't, which is entirely consistent with him dodging your case and nitpicking semantics.
(2) He didn't bother to try to force something by comparing to Imperial because fuck going through 30+ pages of your filter in a 500+ pg game just to maybe throw some doubt on you that won't get you lynched. Much better to pacify you by trying to tr you while still not addressing your case.

I'm okay enough with the Breshke one for now.

FF one might be legit, I forgot about that. I would rather lynch Superbia anyway so yeah. Meh.

I'd rather orb Slam and I don't know about the Onegu one.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 19:56 GMT
#7164
On March 27 2015 04:55 Vivax wrote:
Fuck it I'm rescinding the convincing promise 2 h pre-lynch.

Y'all too bad while I called out scum D1 and N2. Don't even wanna bother against jubjubs.

Wat
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:00 GMT
#7167
On March 27 2015 04:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 04:56 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 27 2015 04:55 Vivax wrote:
Fuck it I'm rescinding the convincing promise 2 h pre-lynch.

Y'all too bad while I called out scum D1 and N2. Don't even wanna bother against jubjubs.

Wat

he promised to bury either me or slam

Oh yeah.

You swayed to vote Superbia Vivaxbro?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:11 GMT
#7177
On March 27 2015 05:03 ritoky wrote:
eden, how strong is that read on superbia? cuz i kinda had the same no traction, and backing out of a read feelz that you did.

Strong enough that I'm lynching him over it

Thinking back a bit, I remember a comment he made toward me where he basically insinuated that I was likely to be biased against him due to my earlier read. This came while I was questioning him on something. In hindsight it kinda reeks of this debate club, point-out-fallacies-without-forming-useful-conclusions "style" that I feel like comes from mafia mindset more than town mindset.

Townies argue as a means to the end of finding mafia. Mafia argue as a means to the end of looking engaged. For townies, argument is strictly a tool through which reads are formed, so they're less likely to just argue aimlessly about the minutia of particular points - they might get into stupid arguments but it's always for the purpose of trying to develop reads on other players. Mafia otoh can and do easily fall into the trap of engaging points about players without trying to make a read on them. It makes them look like they're helping and being useful without committing them to a read.

I don't really feel like Superbia's arguing this game has been the townie kind of arguing, with the exception of his case on Artanis, which he's promptly walked back anyway.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:13 GMT
#7178
On March 27 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Drops a big case on me and is "anxious to see me reply", then goes afk for 33 hours in which time I had replied, happens to come back right as I case him and barely seems interested in anything but nitpicking.

Bingo. He sorta revisited his case once with the Vivax point, but that quickly devolved into aimless arguing, and he just kinda drops the rest without engaging you on it at all
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:15 GMT
#7182
On March 27 2015 05:13 Damdred wrote:
Who all's on super now

arty, me, ff
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:15 GMT
#7183
On March 27 2015 05:15 ritoky wrote:
get sold by art and eden, vote in vote thread.

return to thread, hit f5.

read this

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 05:08 Damdred wrote:
I'd vote super with you art. I just think Rayn was scun


[image loading]

lmao
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:15 GMT
#7184
oh and apparently ritoky too damd
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:16 GMT
#7185
hey you should both vote with your scumreads (each other) on ff

then if we're wrong on superbia you can both argue that your scumread voted with his scumread on a townie :^)))))))
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:18 GMT
#7187
ok boys I gotta roll soon

I'll try to be around for EOD and keep track of the happenings, but tonight is "Indulge Delusional White Baby Boomers' Fantasy That They Aren't Old As Shit" Night aka "Have A Bunch Of 60-Year-Olds Play Oldies And Classic Rock Really Badly" Night so the restaurant will probably be packed
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:39 GMT
#7205
What the fuck
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:43 GMT
#7214
Yo I'm at work and my shift starts in 15m. If this is real can I find out before the top of the hr? Tia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:44 GMT
#7218
I could believe it if Vivax has both teammates in our POE. He couldn't get away with not getting nk'd imo
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:45 GMT
#7219
But I refuse to believe until I see confirmation
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 20:52 GMT
#7225
On March 27 2015 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I look forward to Superbia entering the thread again. He p much has to since he hasn't voted yet.

Make sure no one gets any funny ideas about double lynching with the modkill. They're gonna think about it and it'll be a terrible idea
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:00 GMT
#7227
I feel so unfulfilled by Vivax posting and bailing
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:13 GMT
#7242
On March 27 2015 06:10 Superbia wrote:
Surely this wagon is going to hit mafia. Rofl.

If it's not, do you have any intention of stopping it?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:14 GMT
#7244
On March 27 2015 06:13 Trfel wrote:
Eden, you're still here.

Switch votes with me?

This is my wagon so no lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:17 GMT
#7248
On March 27 2015 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
so wait what is vivax?

Who the fuck knows lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:25 GMT
#7254
On March 27 2015 06:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 06:13 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 27 2015 06:10 Superbia wrote:
Surely this wagon is going to hit mafia. Rofl.

If it's not, do you have any intention of stopping it?


Are you fucking serious? I have the option of 1. defending myself to age-old arguments which are utterly irrelevant by definition (bc I'm town). or 2. play PoE. Ya, I got my option picked.

Like are you fucking kidding me Eden? You defended Art so fucking easily, yet when it comes to me you harp on the smallest, most obnoxious shit. It wouldn't actually surprise me if both, or at least one of you is mafia.

You changed your mind on both of us awful quick there.

And speaking of harping on small shit! If that makes me suspicious, what does it make you that your entire engagement with Artanis today can be summarized thusly?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:32 GMT
#7265
On March 27 2015 06:17 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 06:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 27 2015 06:13 Trfel wrote:
Eden, you're still here.

Switch votes with me?

This is my wagon so no lol
Let it be known that the only real reason I think Superbia is scum is because everyone else seems to think so. And I'm not very good at being right.

Eden, my problem with your analysis is that it assumes that people are smart. I agree that Superbia and Artanis were arguing for the purpose of arguing, and not to actually arrive at any useful conclusion. However, I think that the entire progression of Superbia's case on Artanis and his follow-up argument indicates that Superbia is extremely determined to push Artanis, and this makes him seem towny to me.

Townies often bicker pointlessly. It doesn't make them scum.

It isn't that it's pointless bickering its that there never was a point. Townies bicker pointlessly but they have some goal in mind. Superbia just nitpicked at Artanis's argument without trying to get at his alignment or really accomplish anything.

And I don't really see how Superbia is "determined" when he basically drops his case once he finally gets a chance to engage Artanis. Nor how that makes him town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:41 GMT
#7276
On March 27 2015 06:36 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 06:34 Trfel wrote:
On March 27 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:
Never before has a town been so on my dick when I'm town. Never. Like if you're town you're literally handing mafia the win on a silver platter.
Superbia.

If you are town, please calm down and logically answer Eden's arguments. You aren't lynched yet.

I'll be looking at Artanis's filter.


Yeah, this worked out great in the last game. No, you're going to lynch me here and you're going to keep lynching me in other games until you guys finally figure out how the fuck I play mafia and how I get my reads as town. Also the fact that inactivity is not a scum-tell for me.

I literally mathematically proved that inactivity is a scum tell for you so...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:45 GMT
#7281
On March 27 2015 06:35 Superbia wrote:
Like do you truly believe your case is that good that almost the entire population unanimously jumps onto it?

No? But I think it's solid. I don't really know how to react to how quickly people got on it OR your reaction here.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 21:48 GMT
#7287
On March 27 2015 06:41 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 06:41 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 27 2015 06:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 27 2015 06:34 Trfel wrote:
On March 27 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:
Never before has a town been so on my dick when I'm town. Never. Like if you're town you're literally handing mafia the win on a silver platter.
Superbia.

If you are town, please calm down and logically answer Eden's arguments. You aren't lynched yet.

I'll be looking at Artanis's filter.


Yeah, this worked out great in the last game. No, you're going to lynch me here and you're going to keep lynching me in other games until you guys finally figure out how the fuck I play mafia and how I get my reads as town. Also the fact that inactivity is not a scum-tell for me.

I literally mathematically proved that inactivity is a scum tell for you so...


Yeah, well, guess you're turning in that math degree in 1h19m.

Economics and one errant example doesn't rebut a tendency.

Why am I supposed to not lynch you for martyring?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 22:13 GMT
#7333
Superbia feels town in his big rant

I kinda think Trfel might be right
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 22:14 GMT
#7337
Fuck it go to Slam

Vivax is right
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 26 2015 22:21 GMT
#7349
On March 27 2015 07:17 Trfel wrote:
Eden, I thought you liked my earlier reasons to townread Alakaslam.

I did
But I'm pretty sure Superbia is town. His reaction is hella pure

And Slam seems like the only alternative people will take
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 01:40 GMT
#7540
I'm hella disappoint with Damdred. Weren't we promised something good today?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 02:06 GMT
#7546
On March 27 2015 11:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 09:00 Onegu wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:53 Trfel wrote:
Also, sorry about the roleblock confusion. You guys are correct.


What's the mistake you made?
Rsoultin's jailkeep on Fecalfeast doesn't prevent Fecalfeast from carrying KP. I thought that it did.



Wait jk doesn't prevent KP then I'm confirmed town
Other people agree that this is a very towny post, right?

Wait wtf??? Jailer doesn't stop kp??? In what world?!

I'm a lil mad if so although I guess he has to be town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 02:09 GMT
#7547
Jailer stops kp... It's in the OP

I have no idea what this point means
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 02:10 GMT
#7549
On March 27 2015 11:09 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 11:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Jailer stops kp... It's in the OP

I have no idea what this point means
Jailer does stop KP.

But that aside, I think that Onegu's reaction hints at him being town. Do you agree?

Explain like I'm a 5 year old that just mislynched town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 02:55 GMT
#7553
On March 27 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 11:10 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 27 2015 11:09 Trfel wrote:
On March 27 2015 11:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Jailer stops kp... It's in the OP

I have no idea what this point means
Jailer does stop KP.

But that aside, I think that Onegu's reaction hints at him being town. Do you agree?

Explain like I'm a 5 year old that just mislynched town
Onegu sees a post that says "jailer doesn't stop KP", and he responds "that means I'm town!"

I'm thinking that if Onegu is mafia, he wouldn't think to respond like that, because he would know that it is false. Obviously he could, I just think it's less likely than Onegu actually being town.

Unless of course, I am wrong in this assessment, which is why I am asking.

shrug. Seems easy for him to do either way, but I get where you're coming from.

I feel like there's something meaningful to be taken from the fact that everyone jumped on Superbia and then a lot of people were willing to move to Alakaslam at the end. I'm gonna go look at the votes and see
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 02:57 GMT
#7554
Oh, orb targets. Now that we lynched Slam...

Kinda want to hit from among the following:
Superbia
ritoky
Fecalfeast
Breshke
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 05:46 GMT
#7563
Hey Breshke, why did you switch your vote late at EOD from Superbia to Alakaslam?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 05:46 GMT
#7564
You too Fecalfeast
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 05:47 GMT
#7565
Er, except for FF it's switch from Superbia to Onegu, lol.

Same principle tho. Both of you switched late. Why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 05:50 GMT
#7566
And Fecalfeast, you also claimed the orb. Who are you using it on and why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 08:17 GMT
#7573
What orb?





Trfel, idk right now. Working on it

Breshke why did you think FF softed the orb during the day? And you're saying you didn't think ritoky was mafia, but you have him listed in your mafia pile... why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 17:10 GMT
#7601
On March 27 2015 23:47 Vivax wrote:
Why are people townreading FF tho? He's totally different by tone and play compared to Imperial, it's not just his case on LS.

Well I'd expect FF's tone as a player to differ from his tone as a GM

I'm glad people are revisiting the Superbia nonpushes on LS from d1. Can we orb him now? Lol

One idea that I think really has some merit is that the mafia wanted to keep both vigs alive for an ML d2 (and possibly? d3). My only concern is that once d2 rolled around, I don't feel like anybody actually tried very hard to push a lynch on either vig. I know we kinda collectively decided the vigs had a good shot at being town by the end of n1, but we must have a pretty background mafia imo, because the data screams out that they wanted vig ML's d2/d3 but there's no concerted push on it early in d2.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#7602
Also y'all dunno how salty imma be if superbia is mafia and i totally nailed it coming back and talked myself out of it again :/
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 17:13 GMT
#7603
Seriously I need to just afk at deadlines once I decide on a lynch. Way too vulnerable to AtE at the end.

I'd probably go with Superbia / ritoky / Fecalfeast if I had to pick a team right now. Superbia for aforementioned reasons, ritoky for dropping off the face of the planet once he was given a day to prove himself town, Fecalfeast because I tend to weigh the tone argument across the whole game higher than the tone argument in the one exchange with rsoultin.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 18:05 GMT
#7609
On March 28 2015 03:00 Damdred wrote:
Yummy I had Chinese . On a related note people should talk about ritoky/rayn

(1) ray's slot was scummy
(2) ritoky ain't doin anything
(3) ritoky ain't funny this game

6/3 would kill
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 20:21 GMT
#7635
On March 28 2015 04:53 Superbia wrote:
I'm not Orbing myself. I might orb Artanis, though I'm probably getting RBed anyway, so it doesn't really matter. -_-

damn right you aren't orbing you

cuz i'm orbing you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 22:56 GMT
#7650
Legacy post

Lynch out of Superbia, FF, ritoky, Breshke. Be skeptical of the orb user. Question them extensively on their choice rationale and result
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 06 2015 05:04 GMT
#9161
ggs mafia i would never have lynched sl i think. orb gambit too good.

i think town could have reasonably gotten toad with there being too many pr's but sl would have been too much
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 06 2015 05:05 GMT
#9162
damn scum qt with a ton of respect
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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