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On March 20 2015 13:14 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:08 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1. no my argument is that what you're saying is inconsistent and i don't understand why please explain why you don't conclude that damdred is mafia from the 3 statements i summarized from your post which (i would think) should clearly lead you to conclude that
I'm posting my thoughts. I said I thought Damdred was mafia. People who I read townie said I needed to re-evaluate on Damdred. Damdred started posting. His posting seemed like it could come from a townie mindset. Now Damdred is null, slightly leaning mafia. Yeah?
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On March 20 2015 13:15 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:07 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"
and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum. weak on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?" on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment" on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum" vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet. afaik nothing i'm saying here depends on anybody but sicklucker and damdred so i'm not really understanding why you need to be looking for a specific team of 5 to answer this query
By the end of the day I prefer to look at the bigger picture rather than single out individuals. I want to see if the person I'm voting for fits in a mafia circle. Is there a universal wagon? How are the other people I'm reading scummy interacting with this individual? Etc, etc.
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On March 20 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:14 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:08 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1. no my argument is that what you're saying is inconsistent and i don't understand why please explain why you don't conclude that damdred is mafia from the 3 statements i summarized from your post which (i would think) should clearly lead you to conclude that I'm posting my thoughts. I said I thought Damdred was mafia. People who I read townie said I needed to re-evaluate on Damdred. Damdred started posting. His posting seemed like it could come from a townie mindset. Now Damdred is null, slightly leaning mafia. Yeah?
superbia. follow me here man. you're not answering the question.
at the time you posted, before anyone could give you feedback on damdred:
you said "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?"
you also said "sicklucker is kind of meh"
you also said "i think there is 1 mafia between them but not 2"
given these things why do you not conclude damdred is clearly mafia and sicklucker is not?
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On March 20 2015 13:21 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:14 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:08 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1. no my argument is that what you're saying is inconsistent and i don't understand why please explain why you don't conclude that damdred is mafia from the 3 statements i summarized from your post which (i would think) should clearly lead you to conclude that I'm posting my thoughts. I said I thought Damdred was mafia. People who I read townie said I needed to re-evaluate on Damdred. Damdred started posting. His posting seemed like it could come from a townie mindset. Now Damdred is null, slightly leaning mafia. Yeah? superbia. follow me here man. you're not answering the question. at the time you posted, before anyone could give you feedback on damdred:you said "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?" you also said "sicklucker is kind of meh" you also said "i think there is 1 mafia between them but not 2" given these things why do you not conclude damdred is clearly mafia and sicklucker is not?
Because I was and still am not completely sure on either of them.
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On March 20 2015 13:17 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:15 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:07 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"
and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum. weak on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?" on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment" on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum" vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet. afaik nothing i'm saying here depends on anybody but sicklucker and damdred so i'm not really understanding why you need to be looking for a specific team of 5 to answer this query By the end of the day I prefer to look at the bigger picture rather than single out individuals. I want to see if the person I'm voting for fits in a mafia circle. Is there a universal wagon? How are the other people I'm reading scummy interacting with this individual? Etc, etc.
ok, i kinda understand the logic here, but i feel like you have to start by finding individuals. and frankly i'm a little worried that this process excuses you from finding individuals
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you said you were "relatively certain" though. :/
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On March 20 2015 13:24 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:17 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:15 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:07 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:00 Eden1892 wrote:
i quoted your post from 3 hrs ago in the first place where you called damdred top scum while calling sl "kind of meh" and saying you "need to re-evaluate"
and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum. weak on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?" on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment" on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum" vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet. afaik nothing i'm saying here depends on anybody but sicklucker and damdred so i'm not really understanding why you need to be looking for a specific team of 5 to answer this query By the end of the day I prefer to look at the bigger picture rather than single out individuals. I want to see if the person I'm voting for fits in a mafia circle. Is there a universal wagon? How are the other people I'm reading scummy interacting with this individual? Etc, etc. ok, i kinda understand the logic here, but i feel like you have to start by finding individuals. and frankly i'm a little worried that this process excuses you from finding individuals
I do find individuals and I do start at individuals, but I usually don't make any final conclusions until EoD where I evaluate the whole day and see how it works out.
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On March 20 2015 13:25 Eden1892 wrote:
you said you were "relatively certain" though. :/
And then you guys told me "nono, damd is town" and it's like, whatever, I guess I'll re-evaluate? Though I may just say fuck you guys and still read him mafia tomorrow, we'll see.
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Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow.
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On March 20 2015 13:29 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:25 Eden1892 wrote:
you said you were "relatively certain" though. :/ And then you guys told me "nono, damd is town" and it's like, whatever, I guess I'll re-evaluate? Though I may just say fuck you guys and still read him mafia tomorrow, we'll see.
okay, this is the second time you've made the same logic error. i will explain again. if you make it a third time i will be forced to assume it's deliberate and respond accordingly.
all of the following statements were contained in one post:
- "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?"
- "sicklucker is kind of meh"
- "i am relatively certain 1 of them is scum, but i don't think both are"
because these were all contained in one post, no one could have given input in-between any of these statements to change your relative certainty that one of them is scum.
so taking this at face value, i do not understand why it is that you:
- don't firmly conclude damdred is mafia
- don't conclude that sicklucker isn't mafia
- don't move your vote
please explain why this inconsistency exists
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On March 20 2015 13:30 Superbia wrote:
Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow.
i was gonna get salty at not getting an answer but this is actually hella legit
you better have a good answer when you come back tho. and pics of the eclipse
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On March 20 2015 13:33 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:29 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:25 Eden1892 wrote:
you said you were "relatively certain" though. :/ And then you guys told me "nono, damd is town" and it's like, whatever, I guess I'll re-evaluate? Though I may just say fuck you guys and still read him mafia tomorrow, we'll see. okay, this is the second time you've made the same logic error. i will explain again. if you make it a third time i will be forced to assume it's deliberate and respond accordingly. all of the following statements were contained in one post:- "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?" - "sicklucker is kind of meh" - "i am relatively certain 1 of them is scum, but i don't think both are" because these were all contained in one post, no one could have given input in-between any of these statements to change your relative certainty that one of them is scum.so taking this at face value, i do not understand why it is that you: - don't firmly conclude damdred is mafia - don't conclude that sicklucker isn't mafia - don't move your vote please explain why this inconsistency exists
Because you think all of these are absolute truths inside my mind. For example, I don't think it's 100% that there's 1 and only 1 between them. This is just a feeling that I got from the interactions between them. It might still be wrong, since damdred later on seemed to re-evaluate SL's alignment. Indicating that he still might be mafia preparing for the bus but hopping off after people seemed to start evaluating SL's alignment.
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On March 20 2015 13:34 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:30 Superbia wrote:
Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow. i was gonna get salty at not getting an answer but this is actually hella legit you better have a good answer when you come back tho. and pics of the eclipse
You're literally an asshole. But whatever, it's like 4 hours away. Not going to get much sleep either way.
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I also don't want to wake up to a wagon on me because it'll be a tremendous waste of time and energy (imo). I'm lazy/busy enough as it is.
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On March 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:34 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:30 Superbia wrote:
Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow. i was gonna get salty at not getting an answer but this is actually hella legit you better have a good answer when you come back tho. and pics of the eclipse You're literally an asshole. But whatever, it's like 4 hours away. Not going to get much sleep either way.
i said pics because i wanted to see the eclipse and i can't cuz i'm a bajillion miles away
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On March 20 2015 13:40 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 13:34 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 13:30 Superbia wrote:
Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow. i was gonna get salty at not getting an answer but this is actually hella legit you better have a good answer when you come back tho. and pics of the eclipse You're literally an asshole. But whatever, it's like 4 hours away. Not going to get much sleep either way. i said pics because i wanted to see the eclipse and i can't cuz i'm a bajillion miles away
Will you sheep my EoD vote if I provide these pics? o:
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So Eden what you think of Superbia after talking with him?
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if sicklucker is up against people i view as town (damdred, eden, etc) i am going to vote him on the policy of L.A.L. (lynch all liars) as it is, though, i am going to relax tonight and see where the thread goes tomorrow. im going to catch up on the EU LCS i missed today, and try to whip another 80 pages out of my book on the french revolution. ive read most of 80-93 (or at least skimmed) so im only lacking ~20-30 pages of reading/skimming plus i mean having read the first 30-40 pages of the game i have a decent feel for who is going to contribute and who isn't
I don't really have any strong reads. I'm sure scum are merely eluding me because I'm rusty... but there is ample opportunity to catch them later. I'll get up with you guys tomorrow. Have a safe night  hehe
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On March 20 2015 13:41 LightningStrike wrote:
So Eden what you think of Superbia after talking with him?
What do you think of either of us after these interactions?
That's a way more interesting question than the one you posed. Like this literally makes no sense. It's very clear that Eden is now unclear about my alignment and is still evaluating my answers.
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