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On March 20 2015 11:39 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 11:38 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 11:33 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 11:29 Damdred wrote:
Super why are you scum reading me so intensity for scum reading you but ignore vivax scum read on you when he's only focused on you? I had you as leaning town for having similar reads, so when you sheeped the read alarm bells started going off. To be quite honest, I still don't 100% understand Vivax's read on me. It did kind of feel town, I don't really think like mafia would try to fight me. idk. so if mafia don't fight you then why are you scumreading damdred who's more actively engaging you than vivax Damdred felt like he was hopping on. IIRC he said something like "I'd be okay with lynching Super today". That kind of weak jumpon is exactly something I would expect from mafia.
Can't you look at it the same way like that mafia wouldn't jump on so weakly and would tend to over justify themselves instead of jsut being like ehh i can settle for this.
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On March 20 2015 11:28 Eden1892 wrote:
it is really hard not to be bm when people tell you "gg" after an mtg match where your deck refused to cooperate with you
it's like... no, it wasn't a good game. your deck worked and mine decided to durdle with taplands and wrong-colored mana. this was basically goldfish. how is this a good game ._.
i get that they aren't LITERALLY saying that and it's just a show of sportsmanship (which i guess i appreciate?) but i really feel like i'd rather hear something else. like when this happens to other people and they find 2 lands all game i say something like "sorry your deck wouldn't play ball"
is that better or worse iyo? am i just retarded? update at 11
Was it just a casual match or a tournament match? BO1? BO3? More info needed
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Look.
When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day.
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On March 20 2015 11:49 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 11:28 Eden1892 wrote:
it is really hard not to be bm when people tell you "gg" after an mtg match where your deck refused to cooperate with you
it's like... no, it wasn't a good game. your deck worked and mine decided to durdle with taplands and wrong-colored mana. this was basically goldfish. how is this a good game ._.
i get that they aren't LITERALLY saying that and it's just a show of sportsmanship (which i guess i appreciate?) but i really feel like i'd rather hear something else. like when this happens to other people and they find 2 lands all game i say something like "sorry your deck wouldn't play ball"
is that better or worse iyo? am i just retarded? update at 11 Was it just a casual match or a tournament match? BO1? BO3? More info needed
casual bo3 and my deck bitched out on me twice. the game i won i actually got to play things and stomped
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On March 20 2015 11:50 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 11:49 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 20 2015 11:28 Eden1892 wrote:
it is really hard not to be bm when people tell you "gg" after an mtg match where your deck refused to cooperate with you
it's like... no, it wasn't a good game. your deck worked and mine decided to durdle with taplands and wrong-colored mana. this was basically goldfish. how is this a good game ._.
i get that they aren't LITERALLY saying that and it's just a show of sportsmanship (which i guess i appreciate?) but i really feel like i'd rather hear something else. like when this happens to other people and they find 2 lands all game i say something like "sorry your deck wouldn't play ball"
is that better or worse iyo? am i just retarded? update at 11 Was it just a casual match or a tournament match? BO1? BO3? More info needed casual bo3 and my deck bitched out on me twice. the game i won i actually got to play things and stomped
casual match = don't read too far into it. I say gg after every game maybe he does too.
In tournament it's always the optimal play to BM your opponent subtly. If I imply that I don't realize you only got 2 lands and that I won fair and square you're gonna tilt and I'm gonna collect that sweet sweet win off your hasty misplays
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+ Show Spoiler +i am in gold league only pls don't hurt me
Seriously though I'm off in about 5 mins and will be home in about 20-25
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On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel - Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.
Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.
Null
Everyone not on other lists.
Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.
##Vote Toadesstern
Art are you around? Can you explain your read on slam here im not really understanding it.
You think he is trying to change his meta from when he rolled scum.But you are reading him as town? I feel like i should understand this but i don't.
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On March 20 2015 11:56 Fecalfeast wrote:+ Show Spoiler +i am in gold league only pls don't hurt me Seriously though I'm off in about 5 mins and will be home in about 20-25
Pfft Sson I am bronze/UNRANKED.
What, you spend like days play sc2? I cannot top 20 apm average or something like that
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This reception is really bad out until I get to LAX
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On March 20 2015 11:59 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 11:56 Fecalfeast wrote:+ Show Spoiler +i am in gold league only pls don't hurt me Seriously though I'm off in about 5 mins and will be home in about 20-25 Pfft Sson I am bronze/UNRANKED. What, you spend like days play sc2? I cannot top 20 apm average or something like that I saw that Day[9] Funday Monday cannon rush game that you linked once, haha XD
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On March 20 2015 12:01 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 11:59 Alakaslam wrote:On March 20 2015 11:56 Fecalfeast wrote:+ Show Spoiler +i am in gold league only pls don't hurt me Seriously though I'm off in about 5 mins and will be home in about 20-25 Pfft Sson I am bronze/UNRANKED. What, you spend like days play sc2? I cannot top 20 apm average or something like that I saw that Day[9] Funday Monday cannon rush game that you linked once, haha XD
Cannon rushing is so old school since the 90s 
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On March 20 2015 11:50 Superbia wrote:
Look.
When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day.
Why are you still town reading vivax then if you think you did it to fast? Why give him such a long leash and yet throw scum on me even though I was somewhat asked about you.
This post also lacks a sorta conclusion which is weird meh
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On March 20 2015 12:13 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 11:50 Superbia wrote:
Look.
When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day. Why are you still town reading vivax then if you think you did it to fast? Why give him such a long leash and yet throw scum on me even though I was somewhat asked about you. This post also lacks a sorta conclusion which is weird meh
Atm I'm not hard town reading him. I have him leaning town but kinda null since you're moving up a little.
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On March 20 2015 12:24 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 12:13 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2015 11:50 Superbia wrote:
Look.
When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day. Why are you still town reading vivax then if you think you did it to fast? Why give him such a long leash and yet throw scum on me even though I was somewhat asked about you. This post also lacks a sorta conclusion which is weird meh Atm I'm not hard town reading him. I have him leaning town but kinda null since you're moving up a little.
why does damdred moving up affect vivax moving down?
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On March 20 2015 12:26 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 12:24 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 12:13 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2015 11:50 Superbia wrote:
Look.
When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day. Why are you still town reading vivax then if you think you did it to fast? Why give him such a long leash and yet throw scum on me even though I was somewhat asked about you. This post also lacks a sorta conclusion which is weird meh Atm I'm not hard town reading him. I have him leaning town but kinda null since you're moving up a little. why does damdred moving up affect vivax moving down?
It just kinda does in my mind. From my perspective it would be likely for at least one scum to push on me there.
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On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.
Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?
SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.
So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum.
if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred?
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Like it's not the only reason Vivax is moving down. The main reason is because I cannot really remember why I town read him. Like nothing comes to mind that I really liked about the push. The only reason I can remember is because I don't really expect scum to start a direct fight with me.
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On March 20 2015 12:29 Eden1892 wrote:also: Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote:
So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum.
Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment?
SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel.
So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum. if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred?
Why is this relevant? It's not EoD and my reads are not set in stone yet. Chances are I'm not changing my vote until EoD.
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