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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 26 2014 18:56 GMT
#19
/in
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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December 28 2014 16:27 GMT
#86
shadow player shouldn't have obs
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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December 29 2014 18:46 GMT
#131
On December 30 2014 02:39 geript wrote:
Fwiw ppl can shadow me if they want. First cum first service.

o hai
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 30 2014 18:52 GMT
#176
lame.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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December 30 2014 19:10 GMT
#178
get another cohost? ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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December 31 2014 11:38 GMT
#413
##Vote: ritoky
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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December 31 2014 11:50 GMT
#420
let's kill ritoky. he pushed absolute bullshit reasons for all his scumreads in Carol and was generally unwarrantedly aggressive. I can't believe he's so dumb to push something for 10+ posts here which was a joke.

Literally the only hesitation is that I can't believe he would play exactly the same for another game running.

Nothing else is very interesting. Chyz gets time. DrH didn't demonstrate Chyz was mafia, just maybe that he made a read he shouldn't have. tbc.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 11:55 GMT
#424
yeah NYE is a terrible time to start in the end.

I am a bit suspicious of geript too, but I don't know if it's because he's actually scummy. His wanting a bunch of ppl to turn up because he's so good at reading them reminds me of Russia Today where he said very similar things about being good town and being able to read certain people. but maybe he can do it as town also, just i haven't seen anything else to make me think he's town this game. tbc.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 12:02 GMT
#426
no, it was kinda weird.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 17:43 GMT
#552
On January 01 2015 01:49 KelsierSC wrote:
so Lazer monkey one of your main points about chyz is that he didn't have a town/scum read early on and didn't give it till someone pushed him, yet you are also unable to give a read on any of the 3 main protagonists in the early game. (eden, drh and rit) . So you are scum to?

anyone you feel good about qt?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 17:44 GMT
#554
On January 01 2015 01:53 Damdred wrote:
Good morning my friends, i'll be haphazardly here all day. Sadly I have to work tonight and its one of the busiest days of the year haha. So lets get to it

The ritoky and Dr. H fight wasn't as pointless as people think. It left a very distinct taste in my mouth about both of their alignments.

In carol (Ritokys most recent mafia game) I caught ritoky for being super passive, with no follow up and no real push early on to speak of and only when confronted with this information he would passively give a wall of text to explain away what he was doing. You can look at Season of a witch I believe and see the same thing in his scum game. So i'm leaning more town on ritoky due to the fact that he said someone was acting scummy and went after said person instead of dropping it, he had really good follow up at this point even if the avenue he went down was really a different approach than what I probably would of done.

Dr H reaction to some of the things left me feeling a bit weird. Firstly he seems to have a deep suspicion of Ritoky after the conversation is starting to calm down a bit and even says that Ritoky looks bad. But you never really get a sense about what his read is, their really is no follow up besides DrH saying that he is just going to ignore Ritoky trying to do things from this point forward, which he ends up trying to explain himself a few posts later but then drops it. From all of the interaction with Ritoky (good or bad) he should of been able to formulate some form of opinion on Ritokys alignment. And yet right after the fight has affectingly ended he calls Geript scum but never pushes it at all and then moves on to chyz. Im going to put him in the leaning scum category here.

Geript just lacks something right now, hes not quite as posty as he normally would be and is really tight lipped about his thoughts. Also his post about being ableto read Palmar koshi etc really ruffled me a bit and reminded me a lot about when he was scum in russia. Hes in the leaning scum category presently

can you tell me what was "really good" about the followup, damdy?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 17:46 GMT
#557
On January 01 2015 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Chyz you are literally OMGUSing every new guy that calls you scum aren't you?

tbh it's a wonderful style
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 17:48 GMT
#560
On January 01 2015 02:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:46 marvellosity wrote:
On January 01 2015 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Chyz you are literally OMGUSing every new guy that calls you scum aren't you?

tbh it's a wonderful style

It is basically your style.

why do you think i said it's wonderful
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 17:51 GMT
#564
On January 01 2015 02:32 IAmRobik wrote:
Can we stop talking about DrHelvetica...there's no way he doesn't believe what he's saying about TheChyz...regardless of whether he's right or wrong

actually i think DrH is quite capable of doing just that as mafia. I just don't think it's this game :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 17:57 GMT
#574
I'm betting DrH doesn't like Koshi because Koshi defended Chyz

bit associate-y.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 17:58 GMT
#576
like as it stands I'd lynch Lazer over Chyz any day of the week.

And I might lynch any uber-lurker before either of them.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 18:00 GMT
#582
On January 01 2015 02:59 IAmRobik wrote:
marv, can you carry me through d1 and then I'll carry the rest of the game. I'm glad we rolled the same alignment

possibly. depends how heavy tonight is :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 18:19 GMT
#604
On January 01 2015 03:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:58 marvellosity wrote:
like as it stands I'd lynch Lazer over Chyz any day of the week.

And I might lynch any uber-lurker before either of them.

why?

because your contributions have been very easy to make and you're essentially attacking the same post that others have (sound familiar?). Whereas Chyz is still here plodding away. I like that. Not sure if it makes him town yet, but it does lend itself to explain my statement there
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#613
On January 01 2015 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

I'm not even scummy. Get your head out of your ass

Let me help Robik

Artanis[Xp] 0/17 = 0.0000%

Can't we just lynch Artanis? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and we break his streak or he's scum and we get closer to winning.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 18:31 GMT
#624
On January 01 2015 03:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what if someone fabricates a read? Are you serious? He went from defending it for different reasons, to calling it garbage and not disagreeing with my dismissal of it, then saying again that he's sticking with his eden read, then dropping it to make the same accusations against lazermonkey which were hypocritical anyway. I guess that's considered good town play now?

I never said that it is good townplay. But I have enough experience to know that town players are not always playing well. I think you should too.

I know that. I think this is scum play not bad town play. I don't think a townie would reach the same conclusions and express them in the same way as TheChyz did. If this gains no traction I am going to rewrite my case ad nauseum because I am about 80% convinced which is good for this early in the game

that's a disappointing climbdown from 100% sigbet worthy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 18:37 GMT
#635
On January 01 2015 03:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:31 marvellosity wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what if someone fabricates a read? Are you serious? He went from defending it for different reasons, to calling it garbage and not disagreeing with my dismissal of it, then saying again that he's sticking with his eden read, then dropping it to make the same accusations against lazermonkey which were hypocritical anyway. I guess that's considered good town play now?

I never said that it is good townplay. But I have enough experience to know that town players are not always playing well. I think you should too.

I know that. I think this is scum play not bad town play. I don't think a townie would reach the same conclusions and express them in the same way as TheChyz did. If this gains no traction I am going to rewrite my case ad nauseum because I am about 80% convinced which is good for this early in the game

that's a disappointing climbdown from 100% sigbet worthy

I'll still sigbet, that's pretty good odds. Have anything useful to say yet marv

my lynches bring all the boys to the yard, and damn right, they're better than yours?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 18:37 GMT
#636
i could teach you, but i'd have to charge
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:01 GMT
#958
ahoyhoy!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:13 GMT
#959
On January 01 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:13 geript wrote:
On January 01 2015 06:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:49 geript wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Geript you asked me about 3 people earlier, one of them was sicklucker then you never really got back to the post after I mentioned he escaped me. Was there anything about him that you found of note? I'm scrolling through his filter and it's not bad.

I find how much he holds onto the expected meta case a bit weird and wasn't sure what to think of it. That and I don't feel like spending an hour to read 4 other games when he only has a 2 page filter. Plus I don't want to go back and have to figure out his usual post count and content per day.

Alright, let's reconstruct this. I believe it started here:
On December 31 2014 14:35 sicklucker wrote:
##vote geript for voting for shitty reasons because mafia would do that right? ;p

Geript replies 10 minutes later asking if he only played town before, then asks for a link to his previous scumgame which sicklucker declines. Sicklucker then brings it up again later (Geript asks for an opinion from Dr. H in the meantime) after which:
On December 31 2014 15:57 geript wrote:
On December 31 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote:
Like I thought it was weird that geript is suggesting hes gonna put in the effort to get a meta weird on me so early when I have done nothing scummy. (I made a semi joke/vote to vote) to mock his one. Like this could mean anything just pointing this out for someone whos played with him alot.

It's ok babygirl. I've never meta'd anyone ever before. You'll be getting my meta v-card.

Possibly a joke, but it could definitely be interpreted as serious. If he does interpret it as serious I can see someone like sicklucker chasing the bone. Given his pretty proactive game so far I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Is that your only reason for finding him suspect?

That and he thinks I'm mafia so I naturally want to kill him. But for the most part yah that's all.

While in the shower I realized why I think Marv's mafia. Town!Marv doesn't fear lynch; he definitely doesn't fear lynch on D1.

How is marv fearlynching? Are you for real?

if there's not a decent answer from geript following this post somewhere, he should die with great fire and brimstone
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:18 GMT
#963
i've not come across the explanation yet geript, and i've read several of your posts since (p39). what gives?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:20 GMT
#965
On January 01 2015 08:55 Eden1892 wrote:
someone who wants to kill Lazermonkey please explain why, tia!

I only read his filter so I don't know the context of his posts but I don't really see anything wrong with that he's doing.

he's the very definition of a background player.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:25 GMT
#969
you just quoted the post that i'm questioning, geript

in what way am I fearing the lynch?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:26 GMT
#972
On January 01 2015 23:52 IAmRobik wrote:
When I get night killed tonight, don't forget that plammmmar is mafia

not a bad read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:27 GMT
#973
On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi again.

I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can.

As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch!

i like this post as long as there's followup.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:28 GMT
#974
On January 02 2015 04:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 23:52 IAmRobik wrote:
When I get night killed tonight, don't forget that plammmmar is mafia

not a bad read.

I take this back. Not explaining why for now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:32 GMT
#979
On January 02 2015 04:30 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 20:55 marvellosity wrote:
yeah NYE is a terrible time to start in the end.

I am a bit suspicious of geript too, but I don't know if it's because he's actually scummy. His wanting a bunch of ppl to turn up because he's so good at reading them reminds me of Russia Today where he said very similar things about being good town and being able to read certain people. but maybe he can do it as town also, just i haven't seen anything else to make me think he's town this game. tbc.

This is part of it. Wait maybe I'm being dumb. Maybe he can only fear lynch me if he's town. It's cutting out my reading, but you were quite impressed with my scumplay last game. *brushes shoulders off* So what you've raised the bar for reading me town; which btw is illogical because I would've been townread in Russian despite you raising the bar but eh.

You better be town dear or I've just out thunk myself.

wat?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:33 GMT
#981
lol is your argument that I called you suspicious (without knowing if i thought you were scummy) in order to later push a lynch on you in case you caught me?

is that really it?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:36 GMT
#984
On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote:
Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw.

why?

I mean naturally I agree, but why
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:37 GMT
#985
oh he answered. nvm for now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:38 GMT
#988
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:39 GMT
#989
On January 02 2015 04:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote:
Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw.

why?

I mean naturally I agree, but why

Do you agree that his defense of you looks fishy?

i think it looks the sort of defence either alignment can make tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:42 GMT
#990
On January 02 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote:
Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw.

Elaborate.

Basically what Artanis said.

marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it.

Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target?

If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1.

On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
You didn't even give a read on marv.

I'm not super impressed by marvs play this fair but TBH I don't have a strong read on him nor do I prioritize getting a better read on him atm. My point still stands though, I'm not willing to kill the strongest player because he is playing bad/is inactive D1.

I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town.

So you would rather kill someone for not playing the game the way you want it to be played than to actually kill the most likely scum? Besides, if you really think marv is playing that bad does it make him more scum? It doesn't make sense for scum marv to suck so I feel this is a flawed argument.

Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game?

jat this is so weak -.-
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:44 GMT
#993
On January 02 2015 04:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:42 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote:
Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw.

Elaborate.

Basically what Artanis said.

marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it.

Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target?

If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1.

On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
You didn't even give a read on marv.

I'm not super impressed by marvs play this fair but TBH I don't have a strong read on him nor do I prioritize getting a better read on him atm. My point still stands though, I'm not willing to kill the strongest player because he is playing bad/is inactive D1.

I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town.

So you would rather kill someone for not playing the game the way you want it to be played than to actually kill the most likely scum? Besides, if you really think marv is playing that bad does it make him more scum? It doesn't make sense for scum marv to suck so I feel this is a flawed argument.

Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game?

jat this is so weak -.-

No, it is simply the truth and you know it.

yes, but it's weak as shit to be using it on this particular day. bad jat.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 01 2015 19:52 GMT
#1006
On January 02 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think batsnacks is scum. I hate all of his posts but i didnt want to lose on chyz for a while. I know you're not asking me but id be glad to discuss batsnacks as scum since chyz and geript are practically locked for me

Noted.
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On January 02 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread.

I would really love to hear that. I have a similar feeling about him.

Actually more unsure now I read his filter as a standalone. Kinda very straight up, not really ruffling play which is classic mafia bats. And the thing that made me think he's town was actually a terrible reason now i'm reading it again:

On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote:
And this scummy too:
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On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


##vote: IAmRobik

I thought "this is so wrong, this makes me feel town on bats" just because it's the sort of thing he writes. now the reasoning feels a bit silly.

dno, bats could be mafia but i'm not feeling it for some reason. some tone shenannies. his play is oddly in-between meta though.

might make some sort of list.
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#1015
On January 02 2015 04:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On January 02 2015 04:52 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think batsnacks is scum. I hate all of his posts but i didnt want to lose on chyz for a while. I know you're not asking me but id be glad to discuss batsnacks as scum since chyz and geript are practically locked for me

Noted.
On January 02 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks?

I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread.

I would really love to hear that. I have a similar feeling about him.

Actually more unsure now I read his filter as a standalone. Kinda very straight up, not really ruffling play which is classic mafia bats. And the thing that made me think he's town was actually a terrible reason now i'm reading it again:

On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote:
And this scummy too:
On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


##vote: IAmRobik

I thought "this is so wrong, this makes me feel town on bats" just because it's the sort of thing he writes. now the reasoning feels a bit silly.

dno, bats could be mafia but i'm not feeling it for some reason. some tone shenannies. his play is oddly in-between meta though.

might make some sort of list.

any thoughts on my two posts about bats? i feel like his reads are forced or just one size fits all throwaways

"this is a really awkward and conspiritorial argument" - you're using that as an argument for mafia but in bats' case it's usually an argument for him being town. tis why it's tricky.
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#1017
On January 02 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 02 2015 04:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
why glowingbear? you havent explained anything

I guess he keeps town on a need to know basis...

ha!
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#1021
On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*

what the fuck is this read?
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#1039
far, far too many nullers.
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#1042
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.
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#1057
On January 02 2015 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

I also don't know if I like the list but it looks almost exactly like mine so I am fine with you. Do you have a specific reason for the Eden read?

I wasn't sure of his attack on Chyz at the beginning, but his posts since all sound natural. I also think the evolution of his Chyz read is townie - it actually looks like he's interested in his alignment, rather than trying to paint him as one or the other. if you read your filter yourself you'll see what i mean.
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#1061
On January 02 2015 05:34 geript wrote:
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On January 02 2015 05:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:04 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why did you omgus a null read again? Your explanation just made it seem like you decided marv was mafia before anything happened i.e. fake read

Who are you talking to and what about?

You.

It's quite possible that I just decided Marv was mafia because he felt off. Meh. Wouldn't be the first time I've jumped to conclusions. That said, his list is awful.

feeling really good about it actually. is attacking me your only way out at this stage?

is jat scum for agreeing with my list in its entirety?
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#1063
"I don't mind x" or "I have no issues with y" are not reasons for people not to be mafia, Artanis.

Quite often the opposite actually.
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#1067
On January 02 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 02 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

I also don't know if I like the list but it looks almost exactly like mine so I am fine with you. Do you have a specific reason for the Eden read?

I wasn't sure of his attack on Chyz at the beginning, but his posts since all sound natural. I also think the evolution of his Chyz read is townie - it actually looks like he's interested in his alignment, rather than trying to paint him as one or the other. if you read your filter yourself you'll see what i mean.

Hmm. If it wasn't Eden we are talking about I would agree with this very much and in fact he also is on my do not lynch list still but I feel like he is considerably less towny than he was in heavyweight.
I checked and the only difference between our lists is damdred. Why is he on yours?

damdred read is thin, but he's trying enough for me not to wanna go near lynching him today. i can't imagine the world where i decide to lynch Damdred today, which is what that list is essentially saying
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#1071
On January 02 2015 05:41 geript wrote:
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On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

Look Here's my specific issues with the list. I'm in PoE, which I guess is explainable. Batsnacks idk. Haven't seen traps but as I recall he hasn't really be doing much of anything. When I reread sicklucker I think he might be town. I forget why, but it wasn't terribly memorable. Bat/rit both feel like coin flips instead of solid PoE targets.

Plus, he's got Eden and kelsier as town. Kelsier might be when I reread him before crashing last night, but Eden's in a weird spot. I don't think Eden's town. It's even more troublesome that Marv finds Robik to be town. Robik is 0% town.

Serioiusly. Town Robik is all over the place. He's aggressive. He does stuff. He pushes opinions. He's an overall jackass (much like myself sometimes). This game Robik doesn't care whatsoever. Robik hasn't posted much and he doesn't care. That's quite definitive of his scumplay.

Koshi, he might be town, he might be scum. I'm really unsure because he's so convinced I'm mafia. Maybe it's just me who's exceptionally off this game, but it's really weird that both Koshi and Marv haven't picked up on or pushed Robik. It's really weird that Koshi comes in and thinks Eden is bad and then thinks he gets better. He started bad and then goes into lala land.

your first paragraph is terrible especially, because it essentially describes the exact reasons that batsnacks and sicklucker have arrived there

sicklucker isn't memorable and batsnacks isn't doing anything, and you can't see why they've made it to that list?

for realsies?
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#1074
On January 02 2015 05:42 geript wrote:
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On January 02 2015 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

I also don't know if I like the list but it looks almost exactly like mine so I am fine with you. Do you have a specific reason for the Eden read?

I wasn't sure of his attack on Chyz at the beginning, but his posts since all sound natural. I also think the evolution of his Chyz read is townie - it actually looks like he's interested in his alignment, rather than trying to paint him as one or the other. if you read your filter yourself you'll see what i mean.

Hmm. If it wasn't Eden we are talking about I would agree with this very much and in fact he also is on my do not lynch list still but I feel like he is considerably less towny than he was in heavyweight.
I checked and the only difference between our lists is damdred. Why is he on yours?

damdred read is thin, but he's trying enough for me not to wanna go near lynching him today. i can't imagine the world where i decide to lynch Damdred today, which is what that list is essentially saying

Nah, Damdreds town. I'd stake 45% of my reputation on it.

45% of 0 is still 0 bbz
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#1077
##unvote
##vote: geript
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#1078
cannot believe geript believes anything he is writing.
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#1082
no, he's picking holes in my list with reasoning that is absolutely bogus. Like he decided that he wants to pick holes in my list, and so he's finding any reason to do so.

nope.
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January 01 2015 20:48 GMT
#1086
"people I don't want to lynch for some reason" is != townread

actually i am marginally town on Robik, but either way i don't want to lynch him today.

try harder geript.
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#1088
On January 02 2015 05:49 Palmar wrote:
How are we looking on the lynch geript thing?

good.
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#1090
On January 02 2015 05:50 Palmar wrote:
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On January 02 2015 05:49 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:49 Palmar wrote:
How are we looking on the lynch geript thing?

good.

If he's town, you're mafia. 100%. Just lay down and die if he flips town.

don't think role PMs change regardless of anyone else's flip actually
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January 01 2015 20:51 GMT
#1093
it should actually be pretty obvious I am not mafia this game.
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#1119
On January 02 2015 05:54 Koshi wrote:
One can simply not go around statistics.

1) geript has never been wrong on marv when he is town as he claims.
2) marv lynches scum as town.

Combined we got a 101% chance that marv is scum when geript is town.

geript has never been town in a game when i was mafia

and he's called me mafia plenty in those games.
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#1125
On January 02 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote:
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On January 02 2015 06:06 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:54 Koshi wrote:
One can simply not go around statistics.

1) geript has never been wrong on marv when he is town as he claims.
2) marv lynches scum as town.

Combined we got a 101% chance that marv is scum when geript is town.

geript has never been town in a game when i was mafia

and he's called me mafia plenty in those games.

Why do you care? You know geript will flip mafia as per my case, unless you have doubts about your case on geript?????!!!

i barely read your case
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#1129
On January 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
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On January 02 2015 06:10 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote:
On January 02 2015 06:06 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:54 Koshi wrote:
One can simply not go around statistics.

1) geript has never been wrong on marv when he is town as he claims.
2) marv lynches scum as town.

Combined we got a 101% chance that marv is scum when geript is town.

geript has never been town in a game when i was mafia

and he's called me mafia plenty in those games.

Why do you care? You know geript will flip mafia as per my case, unless you have doubts about your case on geript?????!!!

i barely read your case

It's your case if he's town, so you should probably read it.

but if it agrees with me it's probably not important, so why should i?
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January 01 2015 21:16 GMT
#1133
if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears.

1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though.
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#1144
On January 02 2015 06:19 batsnacks wrote:
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On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears.

1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though.


what if they are just objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit you?

If geript is mafia I'm sure he could just work around your list. There are enough people on your list to work with.

what?
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#1148
On January 02 2015 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears.

1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though.

True but you have to realize that this does not necessarily make him mafia.

i don't think town-geript bullshits reasons on multiple people on my list if he is town.
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#1149
tautology alert
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#1152
On January 02 2015 06:23 Palmar wrote:
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On January 02 2015 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears.

1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though.

True but you have to realize that this does not necessarily make him mafia.

If geript is town, JAT is confirmed scum too.

can't put my finger on it, but somehow it's hard to take you seriously
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January 01 2015 21:42 GMT
#1168
line em up
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January 01 2015 21:46 GMT
#1171
would happily shenannie on to ritoky.
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#1198
On January 02 2015 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
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On January 02 2015 06:44 IAmRobik wrote:
What if we lynxh ritoky...many people brought up his terrible list post and how it contradicted itself 300 times but no one wants to lynch him? Weird.

Also, if he flips mafia, I'm definitely TMI cleared (I wanted to bring this up and then I saw palmar make a similar comment about himself and someone else...I only bring this up because I thought it was funny)

Anyone know when end of day is?


Id be cleared too hum... Think id be down with this hes my #2 atm anyway

hmm. why are you scumreading me when my top 2 scumreads seem to be the same as yours?
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January 01 2015 22:30 GMT
#1199
also what part of my read on you is bad, given it never extended beyond the fact you weren't memorable?
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January 01 2015 22:36 GMT
#1205
i hope vivax comes back before i have to sleep.
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January 01 2015 22:43 GMT
#1211
On January 02 2015 07:38 sicklucker wrote:
Like marv on those first posts lynching you over robik as geribt wanted was more as policy because up to page 50 as of last game you would have been a great policy.

Like in geribys shoes up to page 50 why do you ever push a 2 page filter robik who promised to step his game up on day2 over you who concedes as mafia.

tbh i'm slightly baked and i can't quite get what you're getting at
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January 01 2015 23:05 GMT
#1233
no-one called you stupid dear
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January 01 2015 23:06 GMT
#1235
On January 02 2015 08:05 ritoky wrote:
drH do you think geript is mafia?

O.o
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#1239
On January 02 2015 08:11 batsnacks wrote:
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On January 02 2015 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It also reminds me of the times I catch a mafia day 1 and they all deflect and try to tilt me instead of responding to what i'm actually saying. just parrot "drh is stupid" until people believe it


I think it would help you -a lot- if you tried making your case without using quotes at all.

good post

the problem when you tear apart every single thing is that all it demonstrates is your bias, and then it's hard to read
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January 01 2015 23:51 GMT
#1295
ya we should not be lynching Chyz.
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January 01 2015 23:51 GMT
#1297
On January 02 2015 08:50 batsnacks wrote:
Go fuck yourself chyz

holy overreaction
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January 01 2015 23:57 GMT
#1308
because he's a newish player and he's under this humungous tunnel and he's playing the game alone, not with a team. that's the other, very plausible, read.
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#1440
On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote:
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On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.

The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer.


This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED?

Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so.


Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here.

This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot.

is that because that's what you would do as scum? ...

when do you think the last time i got lynched as town was?
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#1464
On January 02 2015 09:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:55 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.

The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer.


This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED?

Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so.


Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here.

This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot.

is that because that's what you would do as scum? ...

when do you think the last time i got lynched as town was?


Oh so you're here! Why are you not helping with the lynch?
Lurking much?

i'm enjoying my holiday with the other half ^^

we should lynch geript because i'd have to be severely overestimating him if he's town here, and I know and said in Russia that I'd made the mistake of underestimating him. There's just no town-fire geript at all here.
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January 02 2015 11:56 GMT
#1929
just saw the flip and read this page. a bats lynch was kinda understandable. not read how it happened yet though.
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January 02 2015 12:10 GMT
#1932
what things did you see him not making up as scum in particular?
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January 02 2015 12:18 GMT
#1934
it is relevant, i want to know what you were supposedly seeing. it's very relevant.
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January 02 2015 12:24 GMT
#1935
ritoky
GlowingBear
geript
Vivax
Superbia
LazerMonkey

something like this right now. Less sure on geript than before because i found myself agreeing with artanis' point about how geript was neither really afking or fighting, but doing something in between. I don't know if this is a strong point to believe in though.

Superbia's play is difficult to place because from my memory of him he doesn't do this as either mafia or town. But this lack of interest comes more likely from mafia.

Lazer made some sort of effort when the heat was on him, and then nothing really subsequently.

Koshi's push on Vivax is good, specifically it's hard to believe that Vivax couldn't understand what Chyz did from a town perspective.

ritoky just exists and has done nothing worth remembering since his list post with a bunch of extremely odd reads.
GB essentially opted out of all conversation by attacking me and doing this really weird about-turn on geript.

the lynch should be between ritoky/GB tomorrow
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January 02 2015 12:44 GMT
#1939
because i don't think he's mafia.

if you're calling me mafia for those reads that just makes you bad. which is fine, but that's on you.
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January 02 2015 12:48 GMT
#1943
because all his posting around the lynch seems particularly non-contrived.

in ritoky's case (which was not very townie) - "he shenannied on to bats for no reason" - well, maybe there weren't extended reasons why bats was scum, but i don't even have to go back and read sl's filter to remember why he did it. that's a total mischaracterisation of what sl did.

are you telling me you never shenannied on to a lynch because all your townreads suddenly switched to it?
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January 02 2015 12:50 GMT
#1944
Koshi is this going to be one of those cases where you go ham at me because i don't agree with a read of yours and you're not capable of understanding why i have mine?

just so i can prepare my body appropriately.
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January 02 2015 12:57 GMT
#1947
On January 02 2015 21:54 Vivax wrote:
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specifically it's hard to believe that Vivax couldn't understand what Chyz did from a town perspective.


No it's not so far from deadline and without having exhausted all possibilities and it surprised me. If this is going to remain your only argument say it cause then I can deliberately further ignore any pushes on me since I'd be talking to deaf ears.

Your argument for LM being scum is another than what me and snax used?

there's a significant difference between "surprising you" and "this makes me think we should lynch him"

it surprised me too.
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January 02 2015 13:09 GMT
#1953
On January 02 2015 22:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
ritoky
GlowingBear
geript
Vivax
Superbia
LazerMonkey

None of these were on batsnacks yesterday.

if geript is scum their is a BIG chance that sickluster/robik voted for batsnacks to save him. Or anybody. But nobody???

then we can revisit if geript flips mafia? you think this is some sort of final answer or something? hello?
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January 02 2015 13:21 GMT
#1956
On January 02 2015 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 22:09 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 22:05 Koshi wrote:
On January 02 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
ritoky
GlowingBear
geript
Vivax
Superbia
LazerMonkey

None of these were on batsnacks yesterday.

if geript is scum their is a BIG chance that sickluster/robik voted for batsnacks to save him. Or anybody. But nobody???

then we can revisit if geript flips mafia? you think this is some sort of final answer or something? hello?

batsnacks got lynched with 1 vote more than geript. You think geript is mafia.

I don't understand how you put 6 names in red and don't entertain the idea anywhere that there is mafia on geript. I have to point it out.


It doesn't matter what geript flips in the future. You have geript as mafia & batsnacks got lynched with 1 vote more than geript. Yet your list doesn't take this into account, or any post you made takes this into account. I find this sloppy scumhunting.

no, it's not making associative reads before a flip.

yours is the sloppy scumhunting. check yourself koshi. people on the list are there for standalone.

did i give some thought to whether, if ritoky flips mafia, that makes Superbia more or less likely mafia for his vote on ritoky earlier in the day? maybe, but it's not relevant yet.

or that vivax was on lazermonkey's balls at some point? does that make a difference? or is it nothing because Vivax moved on to someone else later? maybe, maybe not. later.
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January 02 2015 13:28 GMT
#1960
I'm here especially to annoy you darling.
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January 02 2015 13:36 GMT
#1963
On January 02 2015 22:33 KelsierSC wrote:
SL, eden, Robik and Dam need to be seriously considered. They did pretty much fuck all d1 until the very end where they came up with awful reasons to switch onto Bats

SL "my 4 town reads voted him"

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On January 02 2015 13:26 Damdred wrote:
I have a feeling this is batsnacks scum game, it looks like ffl2 to me honestly


SL I would lynch immediately.

that in no way makes sl mafia though.

re: eden. I like that he got stuck back in quite soon after the lynch being productive. i think he looks fine.
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January 02 2015 13:53 GMT
#1968
no, because I reserve my really high percentages for when i'm super sure, because i want people to know they can trust my super high percentages.

but you are very likely to be town.

kelsier: actually i find 4) comes from town more usually than mafia. Palmar does it as town all the time for instance :p
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January 02 2015 13:56 GMT
#1970
1 and 2 aren't particularly scum indicative. you need to explain 3) a bit better.
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January 02 2015 14:03 GMT
#1975
On January 02 2015 22:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 22:56 marvellosity wrote:
1 and 2 aren't particularly scum indicative. you need to explain 3) a bit better.


for realz? Alright....


as for 3 he gives dam a town read at the start because Dam made a joke. Looks like a contrived easy town read that is mafia indicative. He even thinks this read is a good enough basis to switch from his own scum read (geript) onto bats.

meh, maybe? the last sentence is a bit of a reach though. i really think moving on to a wagon of someone you don't have a townread on because a bunch of townreads are on it is not a scummy thing per se.

i mean if geript is town isn't there very little point moving to bat when you've been on geript a lot of the day, and therefore isn't your read on sl conditional on geript being mafia?
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January 02 2015 14:11 GMT
#1978
On January 02 2015 23:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 22:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 02 2015 22:56 marvellosity wrote:
1 and 2 aren't particularly scum indicative. you need to explain 3) a bit better.


for realz? Alright....


as for 3 he gives dam a town read at the start because Dam made a joke. Looks like a contrived easy town read that is mafia indicative. He even thinks this read is a good enough basis to switch from his own scum read (geript) onto bats.

meh, maybe? the last sentence is a bit of a reach though. i really think moving on to a wagon of someone you don't have a townread on because a bunch of townreads are on it is not a scummy thing per se.

i mean if geript is town isn't there very little point moving to bat when you've been on geript a lot of the day, and therefore isn't your read on sl conditional on geript being mafia?


yeh i already said i think geript is scum, like start of day

fine, but you said "we should lynch sl immediately" when it seems at least partly to be a conditional read of yours, so from your perspective it should make sense to lynch geript immediately.
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January 02 2015 14:37 GMT
#1988
i'm going to pretend that somewhere between 14:31 and 14:32 I made this sexy ass point that only Kelsier can see.
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January 02 2015 14:42 GMT
#1990
seems to be 1KP + a vigi
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January 02 2015 14:45 GMT
#1992
On January 02 2015 23:43 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
seems to be 1KP + a vigi


How do you know?

slam seemed to finalise what the roleset was in the thread, if you read his filter. it's not 100% clear but it looks like that's how it went.
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January 02 2015 14:46 GMT
#1993
i do like that slam tells us that roleblocks are not notified when there are no roleblockers in the game though
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January 02 2015 14:49 GMT
#1995
gg
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January 02 2015 14:50 GMT
#1997
On January 02 2015 23:49 Koshi wrote:
a 2 shot vigi.

It's in the OP.............................

factional KP isn't though
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January 02 2015 14:59 GMT
#2005
time to soberly not like GB tbh. he descirbed what mafia should be doing while doing it. pretty cute actually.
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January 02 2015 15:00 GMT
#2006
On January 02 2015 23:57 Koshi wrote:
I wonder if geript will be able to explain why marv is scum. Based on actions. Not on omgus or other silly things.

if he mentions "fearing the d1 lynch" one more time, i'll day-vig him with this gun i definitely have.
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January 02 2015 15:02 GMT
#2008
I do love some good formatting.
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January 02 2015 20:32 GMT
#2214
just got home and not read anything other than this page.

jat is town, as fearsome as his mafia game may be, he's not 16 pages before day 2 starts on a NYE start good.

fin
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January 02 2015 21:15 GMT
#2307
On January 03 2015 06:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:
On January 03 2015 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote:
On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome

I'm not awesome.

Really?
Then I shouldn't listen to you tomorrow I guess?

You wouldn't anyway, as I'm voting you.

Then you are even more terrible than I am.

Yes, I have a few strengths and a few weaknesses in mafia.

List of weaknesses:

1: I'm terrible in the mid-game, because I can't tell dumb from scum. So I repeatedly lynch people who don't agree with me.
2: I generally give one mafia a free pass for no good reason
3: I ignore mafia all the time. When I have players I've mostly ignored, those players often tend to be mafia (think superbia this game).

So yes, I know that there is a possibility you're dumb town. You're either dumb town or scum. And I just have to roll the dice. Of all the people on that shitty wagon, you're the one who should have had the sense to actually get things done properly, but you didn't.

I don't think you're dumb JAT, so by process of elimination, you must be mafia.

stop it right now.
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January 02 2015 21:16 GMT
#2316
On January 03 2015 06:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Palmar sure bitching a lot about a lynch he wasn't interested in participating in. Like I get time constraints, but he didn't seem super interested in the lynch when he was around, so the amount of bitching is disproportionate.

have you met Palmar dear?
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January 02 2015 21:18 GMT
#2322
On January 03 2015 06:11 IAmRobik wrote:
I think I'd lynxh te shit out of kelsersc. I'd also look into sickly jet for clearing me for my vote. My vote looks really bad if geript is scum

he's my top town

'splain yourself.
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January 02 2015 21:20 GMT
#2328
On January 03 2015 06:18 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:15 Palmar wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:05 Palmar wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Palmar is the one who told the scum to sheep JATs vote so he could come in here and try to collect town cred in light of his absence from most of yesterdays discussion leading up to the lynch. If he is town, we're still in a good position with heat on his two known scumreads but instead he's mad about not getting the cred and being obeyed - that was his true goal. It's so clear in my head man

See, another guy who is either dumb or scum.

I was absent because the deadline is 5am my time.

And it is 6 fucking am my time and I still stayed up and tried to make a good lynch happen. Fuck off.

Ironic that a better lynch would probably have happened if you just fucked off to sleep. You did no good.

You are so mean to me.... ;(

God like how does town!jat ever make this post?

who cares? it's irrelevant. it's like when people call me mafia when i have a zillion page filter. i could post the scumQT and i'd still be town. jat does not and cannot post in this quantity as mafia.

that's two reads robik that you're being weird on. sup?
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January 02 2015 21:20 GMT
#2329
On January 03 2015 06:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:11 IAmRobik wrote:
I think I'd lynxh te shit out of kelsersc. I'd also look into sickly jet for clearing me for my vote. My vote looks really bad if geript is scum

he's my top town

'splain yourself.

You, sir, can no longer be trusted

actually, the boot is on the other foot.
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January 02 2015 21:24 GMT
#2343
robik why were you townreading me earlier in the game?
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January 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#2349
On January 03 2015 06:25 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 03 2015 06:24 marvellosity wrote:
robik why were you townreading me earlier in the game?

I thought you were participating. I was wrong

all your reads seem to be shit. and they're not usually. that says more about you than it does me.

Robik
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January 02 2015 21:28 GMT
#2355
right I need to actually read the 10 pages i missed. will do so after les Musketeers.
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January 02 2015 21:28 GMT
#2357
On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other.

i thought you were suspicious of me for my read on you?
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January 02 2015 23:19 GMT
#2455
On January 03 2015 02:18 Vivax wrote:
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On January 03 2015 02:16 Koshi wrote:
Is there any reason why you are being hostile towards jat?

Do you think he is scum?


Yes his noisy presence when I attempted to analyse Eden's posts in thread bothered me and now that I see evidence for him claiming to have some sort of interest into figuring Eden out but then doing exactly the opposite you can expect some more hostility from me.

lol is this even a post?
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January 02 2015 23:24 GMT
#2459
On January 03 2015 08:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2015 02:18 Vivax wrote:
On January 03 2015 02:16 Koshi wrote:
Is there any reason why you are being hostile towards jat?

Do you think he is scum?


Yes his noisy presence when I attempted to analyse Eden's posts in thread bothered me and now that I see evidence for him claiming to have some sort of interest into figuring Eden out but then doing exactly the opposite you can expect some more hostility from me.

lol is this even a post?

Just wait. There is more.

this is some world class reaching I'm reading right now
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January 02 2015 23:29 GMT
#2460
this can't come from a town Vivax

can it?
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January 02 2015 23:30 GMT
#2462
i mean it just goes on and on
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January 02 2015 23:39 GMT
#2468
ok I'm unbolding GB for being so bad it hurts and bolding Vivax for being so bad it hurts.

yes it all hangs together.
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January 02 2015 23:40 GMT
#2469
On January 03 2015 08:39 Eden1892 wrote:
And in the meantime, can someone explain what was so bad about the batsnacks lynch? I still think it was acceptable and the only bad part about it was the flip. Still think my case on batsnacks was okay and I feel like it's a little cheap that a bunch of people logged on after batsnacks flipped and waxed poetic about how terrible a lynch it was without even engaging what was (in my perhaps-biased opinion) the most influential singular post in getting him killed.

Like if everyone's going to decree this lynch bad, it seems like questioning me about my case would be an obvious starting point to finding out if the batsnacks lynch was town- or mafia-driven. I was the most outspoken singular person in the final hour of the day for killing batsnacks, I wrote the biggest case that people seemed to follow. Yet as far as I'm aware not one of the people complaining about the lynch has asked me anything about it. It makes all this gnashing of teeth about the lynch ring incredibly hollow, like people are complaining about it because it's the in thing to do instead of trying to figure out what it means for the game.

this is a good post.
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January 02 2015 23:43 GMT
#2470
although it is in large part explained by Palmar being a loon
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January 03 2015 00:07 GMT
#2493
On January 03 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?

dunno, read his posts?
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January 03 2015 00:09 GMT
#2495
robik you need to read kelsier's filter in carol and tell me with a straight face it's the same alignment
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#2497
On January 03 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?

dunno, read his posts?

i like how you say i'm bad and making weird reads when you end up coming to the conclusions I arrive at hours later. A+ work marv. Keep it up

like what?
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January 03 2015 00:11 GMT
#2501
On January 03 2015 09:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 09:09 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?

dunno, read his posts?

i like how you say i'm bad and making weird reads when you end up coming to the conclusions I arrive at hours later. A+ work marv. Keep it up

like what?

Eden

my read on eden has been relatively static since mid-day 1, what are you talking about?
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January 03 2015 11:35 GMT
#2717
On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find it weird how Palmar/Robik/Vivax all jumped on JAT at pretty much the same time. I have a retarded theory about that that I can only share post-night. Agreed with Marv that especially Vivax' case was reaching. Palmar's feels genuine. I remember him making a post about making no shenannies at night. Unfortunately, I'm a bad boy.

ya. they're all pretty terrible but it's a Palmar-type read so I'm eliminating him. if Robik is town I'm gonna have to adjust my expectations for him down accordingly, but it may just be possible that he's town given Vivax. 1/3 pushing jat like a weirdo seems more likely than 2-3.

anyway, we need to kill vivax and not falter. 2 basic reasons

1.a different reaction to basically everyone bar DrH on Chyz
2.the terrible push on jat, particularly twisty shit like jat already demonstrated of cherrypicking his filter
3.koshi will be mad and he's a qt

if you're not gonna vote vivax, you need to explain *extremely* clearly why

##vote: Vivax
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January 03 2015 11:36 GMT
#2718
On January 03 2015 15:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
y'all overreact to these flips

also this
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January 03 2015 11:40 GMT
#2719
On January 03 2015 15:01 KelsierSC wrote:
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On January 03 2015 14:56 sicklucker wrote:
Well kelsier how do you feel about me now after edens post that might have got him killed


Eden didn't know your alignment so

I town read Eden before he made the post on you. I kind of liked point 3 initially but I don't really think that much of it anymore.
I don't like you at all.


why don't you think much of it anymore?
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January 03 2015 13:27 GMT
#2727
On January 03 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Too many people want to just afk vote vivax here and do nothing. Why so lazy ?

Marv how does koshi being town make vivax scum? Can you explain what is bad about his case on jat?

No one considers the world where mafia kill.koshi to make.vivax seem bad
Seriously?

it doesn't? (koshi being town)

what the poop is the point of wifoming about night kills? koshi isn't a surprising kill regardless of who he was pushing at the time, and mafia tend far more to kill people who are a danger to them then otherwise. tldr it's all wifom so what's the point in even speculating about it?

did you not read Vivax pushing jat? Where jat pointed out that literally the next quote in his filter was a correction/disproved what Vivax was saying? the reasons are just so ungenuine. Vivax is a relatively solid townplayer and that push was... not
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 13:29 GMT
#2729
it didn't happen this game because you're not playing like town
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 13:30 GMT
#2731
On January 03 2015 03:44 Superbia wrote:
VE replaced who?

hello. you have 6 posts.

sup?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 13:32 GMT
#2733
do you really believe what you're writing?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 13:34 GMT
#2736
hey LM. You look better to me since I made my list N1. keep going if you're town plx
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 13:36 GMT
#2739
On January 03 2015 22:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
do you really believe what you're writing?


What am I doing wrong? Like, if you know better don't just stand around and tell me I'm bullshitting show me what I misunderstood and lead me to a better track instead of standing on the sidelines and just throwing around snarky comments.
Show me why I'm wrong on JAT, or tell me where my argument is wrong, or tell me who a better lynch is who isn't me.

I already explained the near 100% heuristic on why jat is not and can't be mafia.

You're also picking holes in a townleader who took the time and effort to find a lynch at some ridiculous time of the morning.

like i can't believe you're nitpicking shit and missing the bigger picture. it's the lack of big picture from you which is really concerning.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 13:37 GMT
#2741
On January 03 2015 22:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 22:27 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Too many people want to just afk vote vivax here and do nothing. Why so lazy ?

Marv how does koshi being town make vivax scum? Can you explain what is bad about his case on jat?

No one considers the world where mafia kill.koshi to make.vivax seem bad
Seriously?

it doesn't? (koshi being town)

what the poop is the point of wifoming about night kills? koshi isn't a surprising kill regardless of who he was pushing at the time, and mafia tend far more to kill people who are a danger to them then otherwise. tldr it's all wifom so what's the point in even speculating about it?

did you not read Vivax pushing jat? Where jat pointed out that literally the next quote in his filter was a correction/disproved what Vivax was saying? the reasons are just so ungenuine. Vivax is a relatively solid townplayer and that push was... not


I did read the case I just wanted to see what you thought about it. I think night kills are pretty important to analyse. I mean before Koshi died vivax was a discussion to be lynched but I mean I think geript or SL or Dam were other names that I would have preferred to lynch, now no one gives a fuck about them and is like, lynch vivax AFK. SL I can sort of understand because the post by eden was good but like no one is even considering other people and that makes me pause for concern.


@Vivax, Who did you scum read d1, was it a strong scum read?

people aren't voting Vivax because Koshi died, silly.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:41 GMT
#2782
On January 03 2015 23:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 22:27 Vivax wrote:
Honestly this willingness of marv to kill me quickly makes me suspicious. He's usually a guy who tries to put in some effort into reading me and mostly reads me correctly until the point where I piss him off in some way and get lynched and since this didn't happen this game I wonder why he's trying to quickstart the wagon without thinking critically.


Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 22:29 marvellosity wrote:
it didn't happen this game because you're not playing like town


And by the way in your opinion I'm only town when I piss you off with my stubborness and and you get me lynched for not playing to your fiddle? This post alone is reaaaaally bad. Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

This and the fact that you don't agree with my reads are all the arguments you're bringing forth for me being mafia so I challenge you to find something better. It's like you're using the thread sentiment that most think JAT is town against me to make it to your point for why I'm mafia. If someone looks suspicious to me I'll point out why and if the majority disagrees idgaf, but calling me scum for it is wrong, in the worst case I'm just wrong, and you don't try to discuss my JAT read with me like Kelsier does simply cause JATs posting volume seems townie enough to you, when in truth it's all volume with only little content.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474082-imperial-mafia?page=137#2739

thx
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:44 GMT
#2784
Vivax how many times has the most active person who was around at silly o'clock finding and organising lynches been mafia?

ever?

you might possibly be able to point to 1-2 HF games, what about the other 300+ that TL Mafia has played, do you know any?
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:45 GMT
#2786
that's 100% irrelevant
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:46 GMT
#2788
hey, i was saving that one jat
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 16:48 GMT
#2790
no, it's why you're bullshitting.

can you answer my question?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474082-imperial-mafia?page=140#2784
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:49 GMT
#2792
question

answer
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:51 GMT
#2795
didn't answer the question

answer the question
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:51 GMT
#2796
do you want a hint?
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:54 GMT
#2798
it's not subjective at all

it's backed up by every TL mafia game ever

it's statistics

how many? "most active" is not subjective, it's a number
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:55 GMT
#2801
you won't rely on a 99.9% heuristic, proven by clicking on any game ever?

right viv
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:55 GMT
#2802
it feels very much like you've dug this hole and you've decided to stick it out.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 16:59 GMT
#2807
you can't disprove my heuristic though lol

go find me that example, i assume you had easily the biggest filter that game? otherwise your example is invalid

if in your example you were a) active around the lynch pushing things and b) had the longest filter, I will concede and we can talk.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 17:00 GMT
#2809
I didn't state "mafia don't push wagons at lynch time" because that would obviously be silly, so don't try to pretend that's all i am saying.

it's a 2-part deal babycakes
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 17:01 GMT
#2811
ya.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 17:01 GMT
#2814
On January 04 2015 02:01 Vivax wrote:
I can try to find that game but longes filter doesn't apply here as JAT's filter is a museum of non-saying one-liners, you can't sell me that one-liners containing "wow" and "bitch pls" or "okay" should be added to filter length.

yes, it applies.

it doesn't not apply just because you say so. that's not how objective stuff works.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 17:02 GMT
#2816
right, yea. gonna stop on this, I'm not going to convince vivax of anything.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 17:04 GMT
#2818
GB/ritoky/superbia and maybe a couple of others

you're sliding by and i'm not going to not notice that you're sliding by
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 17:09 GMT
#2824
On January 04 2015 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv doesn't notice me skating. Notice me senpai!

you have your very own special version.

and lo, here you are anyway
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 17:37 GMT
#2853
On January 04 2015 02:25 Vivax wrote:
I'm going to surpass JAT in filter size today so marv unvotes me or claims scum if he doesn't.

as you know i'm a whore for filter length, so if you actually managed it i would have 2nd thoughts :>
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 17:38 GMT
#2856
if you're not scum it makes it quite a bit more likely Robik is.

kinda obvious i guess.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 17:44 GMT
#2862
On January 04 2015 02:41 Vivax wrote:
Marv what happened to your geript read?

kinda fell off it a bit like i mentioned during the night. not sure why other than what i said before
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 21:11 GMT
#3040
On January 04 2015 05:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 05:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 04 2015 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Honestly we should just vote Superbia until he starts shitting townie bricks. 5 posts since D1 is unacceptable.
##Unvote Vivax
##Vote Superbia

I sorta like this too. But honestly the thought of lynching anyone but geript makes my ass twitch.

That's weird considering your vote is not on geript.

marv and Palmar are both on Vivax, whom I also enjoy a lynch on. You think I can convince marv and Palmar to do anything? Ever?

This means you think Palmar and marv are both town, correct?

No it means I think they're both influential and neither of them listen to a word I say ever.

I listen to every word you say.

I just happen to disagree a lot, that's all.

<3
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 21:12 GMT
#3043
I hear, else I wouldn't be able to disagree.

you're gonna have to concede or i'll argue about it forever.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 21:16 GMT
#3051
On January 04 2015 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:

drh was town but fell off today -- explained by work, but whatever. We'll see what he comes up with in following days.
that's about where i'm at. Eden was quite obviously my biggest town read yesterday, followed closely by DrH. DrH is probably still town, but like, it's annoying that he has fallen off so hard. I did my standard town!robik stuff in defending them adamantly against all stupid questions and pushes.

DrH does that. At least in games I remember I remember him falling off horrendously (as town) after Day 1. Maybe like LX is an example?
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 21:19 GMT
#3060
On January 04 2015 06:17 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 06:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:15 Superbia wrote:
Why the fuck am I on top your scum-list, Robik?

Because you didn't do shit the entirety of phase 1, is my guess. It's why I wanted to lynch you today yesterday.


Does that make me mafia?

as a standalone thing it makes you more likely mafia than town, yes.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 21:21 GMT
#3062
hakuna your tatas.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 03 2015 21:29 GMT
#3072
On January 04 2015 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Superbia is doing something he did when he was mafia the last time. Interesting.

what's that?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 03 2015 21:30 GMT
#3073
On January 04 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Speak of the devil.

Why are you bringing that up now? It's been 2 days and he explained it by saying he forced himself to choose between a town/scum read. I think it's a shit explanation but I don't think that makes him very mafia.


Don't care about his explanation, I'm expecting the post to have some sort of paranoia in it, especially if you're forcing yourself to choose.

I bring it up now because I only have time to elaborate on it now (admittedly, I had some time last night, but decided to afk out the night instead).

why?!
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 21:41 GMT
#3079
On January 03 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?

On January 03 2015 14:48 geript wrote:
Why would the medic heal anyone but Koshi? Why did they shoot Eden? That's a really out of place NK.


pre and post-flip. are these natural? re: eden i mean.

On January 02 2015 12:55 geript wrote:
Is there a current vote count? I'd like to get off a good lynch but I don't think Chyz is it.

On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch?

geript said he wanted to get off a good lynch and then afk'd until the flip? apologies if people have talked about this and i've not paid enough attention.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 21:48 GMT
#3082
Damdred is defensive.
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 22:06 GMT
#3086
i'm coming round on you Robik.

i'm trying to see if there's a world where geript and vivax are both mafia or if it's an either/or deal. the evolution of geript's read on Vivax is pretty odd towards the end of the first cycle.
On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch?

can anyone find the rationale for this?
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 22:12 GMT
#3089
On January 04 2015 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
He says that it's based on Koshi's read essentially.

where? mid page 5 of geript's filter Koshi is a mafia lean?
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marvellosity
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January 03 2015 22:15 GMT
#3091
On January 04 2015 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.


ok right, but that's later. the timing is all wrong.
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January 03 2015 22:19 GMT
#3095
On January 04 2015 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.


ok right, but that's later. the timing is all wrong.

You're asking why he votes in the first place then?

well the progression seems to be that there are 3 people who are mafia (me, LM, Robik) while Vivax is generic "GTFO". Koshi is a scumlean. Several posts later geript is voting for Vivax even though I can't see anything related to Vivax in the interim
On January 02 2015 09:49 geript wrote:
I'm ok with both lynches tbh. It kinda sucks to have two martyrs and only one noose.

Meh I'm not martyring. I'm just not really motivated to play right now and idk why. Like I've posted my best thoughts and the best strategic play for me is to get my points out there. Like I'm the obvious frame target so that means that any cop check on me is pretty questionable. So I have to hope that I'm a miller. Or that the cop doesn't come out. Just simpler to get lynched and solve the problem.[/QUOTE]
i hate this too
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January 03 2015 22:20 GMT
#3096
repost:

On January 04 2015 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.


ok right, but that's later. the timing is all wrong.

You're asking why he votes in the first place then?

well the progression seems to be that there are 3 people who are mafia (me, LM, Robik) while Vivax is generic "GTFO". Koshi is a scumlean. Several posts later geript is voting for Vivax even though I can't see anything related to Vivax in the interim
On January 02 2015 09:49 geript wrote:
Meh I'm not martyring. I'm just not really motivated to play right now and idk why. Like I've posted my best thoughts and the best strategic play for me is to get my points out there. Like I'm the obvious frame target so that means that any cop check on me is pretty questionable. So I have to hope that I'm a miller. Or that the cop doesn't come out. Just simpler to get lynched and solve the problem.

i hate this too
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January 03 2015 22:23 GMT
#3100
On January 04 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him?

tbh i'm just thinking about geript right now.

wasn't palmar's rant there about geript? Vivax was just an addendum...
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January 03 2015 22:31 GMT
#3109
i'd like him to explain himself tbh.
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January 03 2015 22:31 GMT
#3110
On January 04 2015 07:30 sicklucker wrote:
So we want to kill vivax because of koshi. But you guys all forget koshi wanted to kill gerit as well. So why not kill gerit who we individual thought was mafia not because of some wifmo shit?

you're like the 5th person to utter this untrue statement

what's with ppl?
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January 04 2015 20:39 GMT
#3558
hihihihihihihi. Am miles behind. Cliff notes?
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January 04 2015 20:40 GMT
#3562
how thrilling.
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January 04 2015 20:42 GMT
#3566
On January 05 2015 05:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
hihihihihihihi. Am miles behind. Cliff notes?


Switch to geript and walk away.

Also my filter is bigger than yours.

pretty compelling :p just trying to find the spot where i was...
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January 04 2015 20:43 GMT
#3570
it's true, i didn't push it that hard
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marvellosity
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January 04 2015 20:46 GMT
#3578
On January 04 2015 07:52 sicklucker wrote:

The one problem I have with him is I feel him and palmer are always mafia together and palmers looking like shit.

to my great sadness, i don't think i've been mafia with palmar
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January 04 2015 20:48 GMT
#3583
On January 04 2015 07:54 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him?

This is patently untrue. I didn't realize there was a voting thread. If you follow my filter I voted in thread twice for vivax. Just consider my vote in thread the point at which it would've been in placed in the voting thread.
Robik looks terrible but he has 11 pages. Him town reading Eden would be consistent with the NK on him if he's mafia. But he's a real pussy as mafia. I haven't read each Vivax post in depth. But from what I've seen today his unique point of view. Rather he's making bad but logical arguments. That's his scum meta where he loses his unique town perspective. Superbia looks just as bad still. His play actually heavily reminds me of DrH in bluelightz where (as mafia) he super raged for catching heat for being inactive and not voting. It's really out of place. I still think Damdred is town, but he 100% is red or blue.

ignore me if this was answered after this post, but i still couldn't see why you were voting vivax at that point geript?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 04 2015 20:51 GMT
#3588
On January 05 2015 05:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:54 geript wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him?

This is patently untrue. I didn't realize there was a voting thread. If you follow my filter I voted in thread twice for vivax. Just consider my vote in thread the point at which it would've been in placed in the voting thread.
Robik looks terrible but he has 11 pages. Him town reading Eden would be consistent with the NK on him if he's mafia. But he's a real pussy as mafia. I haven't read each Vivax post in depth. But from what I've seen today his unique point of view. Rather he's making bad but logical arguments. That's his scum meta where he loses his unique town perspective. Superbia looks just as bad still. His play actually heavily reminds me of DrH in bluelightz where (as mafia) he super raged for catching heat for being inactive and not voting. It's really out of place. I still think Damdred is town, but he 100% is red or blue.

ignore me if this was answered after this post, but i still couldn't see why you were voting vivax at that point geript?

He was the best lynch on D1. I voted in thread a bit after I read Koshi's read on him. Then again after his second push and Slam's vote count. That reminds me I need to go back and read that section. I've been putting if off b/c I'm lazy.

but you were suspicious of koshi at the time??
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 20:54 GMT
#3593
On January 04 2015 08:08 ritoky wrote:

3) Talk is cheap, post flip-excuses are easy to find. Votes and vote logic or lack thereof are definitive things, SL drastically lacked. This is a person who is SO adamant about his own reads. He spent an entire phase developing a scum read on geript and from everything I have read up until here that read has not evaporated in the slightest. Only to defer to SOMEONE ELSE'S read that is based on meta. Like I cannot get over this. Why would he as town, with the way I remember him playing town, switch from a non-meta read that he devoted effort into developing to someone else's meta read? It makes absolutely no sense, and he is mafia for it.

Even if I accept everything you say about how he plays town (which i don't particularly), you haven't explained at all why it would make sense for mafia sicklucker to do the same thing?

You're just saying "I don't think town sicklucker does this" without providing any mafia rationale or motive
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 20:55 GMT
#3594
On January 05 2015 05:53 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 05:51 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2015 05:50 geript wrote:
On January 05 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:54 geript wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him?

This is patently untrue. I didn't realize there was a voting thread. If you follow my filter I voted in thread twice for vivax. Just consider my vote in thread the point at which it would've been in placed in the voting thread.
Robik looks terrible but he has 11 pages. Him town reading Eden would be consistent with the NK on him if he's mafia. But he's a real pussy as mafia. I haven't read each Vivax post in depth. But from what I've seen today his unique point of view. Rather he's making bad but logical arguments. That's his scum meta where he loses his unique town perspective. Superbia looks just as bad still. His play actually heavily reminds me of DrH in bluelightz where (as mafia) he super raged for catching heat for being inactive and not voting. It's really out of place. I still think Damdred is town, but he 100% is red or blue.

ignore me if this was answered after this post, but i still couldn't see why you were voting vivax at that point geript?

He was the best lynch on D1. I voted in thread a bit after I read Koshi's read on him. Then again after his second push and Slam's vote count. That reminds me I need to go back and read that section. I've been putting if off b/c I'm lazy.

but you were suspicious of koshi at the time??

Initially yes, but he became very town koshi pretty quickly mid-late d1.

the problem is your filter essentially reads like this.

"koshi is a weak mafia read"

-5 or 6 posts pass, no mention of either koshi or vivax-

"##vote vivax"
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 20:56 GMT
#3595
btw Vivax if I overtake your filter because I'm here and playing now, it doesn't count
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 20:58 GMT
#3597
On January 05 2015 05:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vivax was jobbed. I would like to lynch geript today and justanothertownie tomorrow.

justanothertownie is 98% town

I have never, not once, been wrong when I've given a value of 90% or over, or a marv-guarantee

take that as you will
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 20:59 GMT
#3599
make that 99%, his filter is even longer than i remembered
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 21:00 GMT
#3601
has GB posted since p160 btw?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 21:14 GMT
#3622
On January 05 2015 06:13 geript wrote:
The timeline argument is the most damning.

damning of what?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 21:41 GMT
#3644
it is 100% insane to lynch a cop claim today.

do something else superbia.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 21:44 GMT
#3650
On January 05 2015 06:43 Superbia wrote:
I'm not talking about lynching him today, the claim will sort itself out tomorrow. I'm just mad that the response to my questions is a cop-soft, which is ridiculous in its own way.

well, your vote is currently on him, so
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 21:44 GMT
#3652
On January 05 2015 06:43 IAmRobik wrote:
Who claimed cop?

sl
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Profile Joined January 2011
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January 04 2015 21:53 GMT
#3668
On January 05 2015 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote:
it is 100% insane to lynch a cop claim today.

do something else superbia.

Are you caught up? How much do you still need to read?

just started p174
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 04 2015 21:54 GMT
#3673
On January 05 2015 06:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote:
it is 100% insane to lynch a cop claim today.

do something else superbia.

Are you caught up? How much do you still need to read?

just started p174

Ok, hurry a little. I will not keep myself awake for much longer.

reading goes as fast as it goes dear :p
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 04 2015 21:57 GMT
#3677
On January 05 2015 06:56 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:51 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:37 Superbia wrote:
Fuck this shit. SL softs cop and all of a sudden has to explain nothing? Whatever. CC better come during EoN, don't believe SL.

This the second time now that you come in here acting all frustrated for no reason. What's up with that?


Getting stonewalled by a un-cced cop-soft from someone who is very likely mafia is not frustrating. News to me.

Why would an un-cced cop claim frustrate you if you are town? That's the weirdest thing I heard in a while.


I was on his fucking ass, reading lazer town there made NO SENSE from his filter. The cc would net us instant mafia, and if he somehow turns out to be cop I'm literally done.

you realise he hard claimed right?

i literally just read it
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 04 2015 21:59 GMT
#3682
ugh now i have to rewind. hold on.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:00 GMT
#3685
On January 05 2015 01:33 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 01:20 KelsierSC wrote:
For clarity.

You claimed I though it was a joke.

Then you didn't actually rescend your claim so I asked you questions.

At which point you said just forget about all the cop stuff guys which again made me think it was just a joke.

I cant believe you believe what you are saying


when? I differently never thought that because I know what I thought. I might have asked questions to help me figure out my next course

I agree with dandred but ill hard claim but I kinda already thought I did

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:00 GMT
#3687
##Unvote
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marvellosity
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January 04 2015 22:03 GMT
#3692
On January 05 2015 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 07:00 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:51 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:48 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:42 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Ah Robik, can you explain why you put me at the top of your scumlist?

I EXPLAINED IT BEFORE. GO FUCKING READ MY FILTER. I LITERALLY EXPLAINED IT TWO SECONDS AFTER YOU ASKED ME THE FIRST TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO FUCKING KEEP REPEATING IT. YOU HAD 2 POSTS ON DAY ONE AND THEY WERE BOTH TRASH AND THEN YOU DISAPPEARED. ME AND EDEN WERE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH.


So not playing d1 is alignment indicative? Indicative enough for me to be your top-scum? I would like to point you to a game (fanfic crossover) in which I was also unable to play d1 and I ended up being town. Spoiler alert: you did not read me mafia that game even though it's essentially the same situation. You were town that game. What's up with that?

Also the all-caps is very convincing.

I didn't play d1 and I still had 30x as many posts as you. You didn't play much on N1 either. You should be embarrassed of your performance if you're town.


You didn't play d1 that game? Why does that matter?

The fact is that you're reading me scum here for a (bad) reason, while you did not read me scum before in another game in a similar situation in which you were town.

How do you explain that?

Do you think people should townread you?


No. I don't think people should have any read on me.

That's fair I guess. But you are still a great policy lynch.

he's more than a policy lynch, as you point out yourself his anger/frustration reads as pretty unwarranted
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:04 GMT
#3696
vivax every time i read stuff that makes me feel better about you you go and say something like that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:08 GMT
#3704
slight digressment: watching my other half try to use an iron for the first time is pretty hilarious.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:11 GMT
#3712
On January 05 2015 07:10 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
slight digressment: watching my other half try to use an iron for the first time is pretty hilarious.

You have an othere half. </3

obviously. i am hot property.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:12 GMT
#3714
On January 05 2015 05:19 justanothertownie wrote:
It is especially awful that palmar is parking his vote on chyz right now btw. wtf

yes... i've suspended thinking about it for now though
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 04 2015 22:14 GMT
#3723
On January 05 2015 05:34 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2015 05:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 05 2015 05:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads.


Geript is an unlynchable townie?
Take a seat and tell me that story again please.

I agree with you on geript but lets face it, the time you've spent on pushing geript is very negligibel if we compare it to marv/jat/DH.

Marv is unlynchable?

I do think its highly unlikely that we will be lynching him today, and it was even more unlikely when vivax was pushing marv the hardest. It didn't gain any traction yet Vivax spent super much time attacking marv.

I don't remember it this way. In my memory it was marv that attacked vivax.

They were up in each other ass.

dat wording tho
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:17 GMT
#3731
Robik.

Why are you still so supersure of Vivax?

geript: no comment
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:19 GMT
#3738
so you're sure that everything vivax has posted today has been trash?

i mean the jat stuff has been trash but he's been pretty prolific otherwise too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:19 GMT
#3740
why are you sheeping now? (got ninjad)

have you read today??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 22:23 GMT
#3755
On January 05 2015 07:21 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
why are you sheeping now? (got ninjad)

have you read today??

What do you mean by "now"? I sheep JAT d1. I'm sheeping deadtown!koshi d2.

I've read most of today I think.

"now" because i'm sure you promised sexyness today, and it's unlike you not to have given an opinion on basically everything that your mafia target has talked about
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:17 GMT
#3817
On January 05 2015 07:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Did marv just magically disappear without pushing a lynch AGAIN?

no i went to iron. hush yourself.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:19 GMT
#3819
shut up.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:28 GMT
#3824
i'm special.

i don't think we should lynch vivax. i'm just browsing through geript and a couple others.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:33 GMT
#3826
*looks at VE askance*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:34 GMT
#3829
On January 05 2015 08:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote:
i'm special.

i don't think we should lynch vivax. i'm just browsing through geript and a couple others.

I will go to bed very soon. I would really appreciate an opinion until then.

##Vote: geript

right now i'm looking at geript-GB-ritoky-superbia as targets
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:37 GMT
#3833
On January 05 2015 08:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:34 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2015 08:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote:
i'm special.

i don't think we should lynch vivax. i'm just browsing through geript and a couple others.

I will go to bed very soon. I would really appreciate an opinion until then.

##Vote: geript

right now i'm looking at geript-GB-ritoky-superbia as targets

Ok, so we either lynch geript and finally get rid of the whole discussion about him or we lurker lynch? :/

you got it babe. I understand that doesn't sound amazingly attractive :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:39 GMT
#3835
i think I'm ruling out GB for today if it's any consolation
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:47 GMT
#3844
ritoky's read on sl might be genuine. having difficulty deciding.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:48 GMT
#3845
On January 02 2015 07:50 ritoky wrote:
robik i am willing to wait a day on because i respect his aggro play as town, it makes an environment that is hard for scum to thrive in. he promises, if he doesn't deliver he dies tomorrow. plain and simple. i have some hesitations because he is doing a lot of reacting instead of acting which isn't his town style, but i am willing to hold off 1 day.

are we to assume that ritoky is content that Robik delivered that today?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 04 2015 23:56 GMT
#3860
On January 05 2015 08:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:44 sicklucker wrote:
Anyone else notice how super just scum reads people who scum him but never really contributed. Shannanies?


Of course I'm reading some people who are pushing on me as scum. It's absolutely great for scum to get a misslynch off on me in this situation.

why are you voting for someone who isn't getting lynched instead of one of your mafiareads with a realistic chance of being lynched (geript)?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 00:06 GMT
#3873
##Vote: superbia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 00:10 GMT
#3877
because these are the posts of his that feel genuine:
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 00:16 GMT
#3884
On January 05 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 09:10 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 09:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 05 2015 09:03 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
He's been pointlessly abrasive and his posts have been pretty poor, he misrepresented Geript and his focus on the cop thing was really bad.


You just summed up all the small misrepresentations of what I've done so far into one blatant misrepresentation. What's your goal here? Have you even read my filter?

Which part of my post was a misrepresentation? You have been abrasive for no reason. You have not contributed much to discussion, your meta read on Geript was wrong and you bitched about an uncounterclaimed cop.


How was my meta-read on geript wrong? Why don't you start there?

I have been abrasive for no reason? I've had plenty of reasons. Not all of them contributing to the game. I bitched about un-cced cop? I said I was salty because SL blatantly avoided my questions (which were insanely good) by claiming cop. Yeah, he's probably dying tomorrow to a CC, but it's still pretty fucking annoying when you've just put energy into the game and the pretty much confirmed mafia you've just caught sneaks his way into the next day.

I'll let geript get into the meta read thing because he pointed it out iirc.

You've been abrasive in this game despite not contributing anything. Everyone you bitched about had contributed more to the thread than you such as
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 06:15 Superbia wrote:
Why the fuck am I on top your scum-list, Robik?

There's really no reason to be frustrated about stuff like that when you've been afk for the first three days.

Do you really think SL would hard claim cop as scum and trade himself for the real cop when he wasn't even in danger? That's almost too dumb to be scum tbh.

if you answer anything, answer this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 00:49 GMT
#3945
On January 05 2015 09:43 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 09:42 sicklucker wrote:
Well shit that didnt have the reaction I hoped. Regardless of that scum slip its still a decent reason to think supers scum.

So stating that LM wasn't your green check was a scumslip. Thanks. Two down.

you really believe this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 00:59 GMT
#3959
I can't believe geript just popped in to tell us sl was mafia?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 09:46 GMT
#4239
bleh. i'd hoped geript/super was scum/scum and vivax was the town wagon.

hi vivax.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 10:16 GMT
#4243
not really.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 10:19 GMT
#4245
expect me to vote for the person I think is most likely to be mafia.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 10:22 GMT
#4246
i thought both geript and superbia were excellent lynches, i couldn't believe that geript thought that a non-pressured mafia would claim a CC-able role in an open setup, and everything Superbia was posting was cancer.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 10:30 GMT
#4248
I said in Russia Today that I made the mistake of underestimating him when he made a poor argument and i didn't pursue him for it, so i was holding him (incorrectly as it turns out) to a higher standard this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 10:32 GMT
#4249
On January 05 2015 12:58 ritoky wrote:
on phone, only have like 5 minutes. apparently SL claimed cop since i last was able to read the thread. guess he is not the lynch today, evaluate claim later.

want to vote vivax, marv, maybe damdred. so for now: ##vote: vivax

ew
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 10:36 GMT
#4252
I'm posting less and trying to make the right calls. Try lynching me for it and I'm sure we'll see where we stand.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 10:42 GMT
#4254
so strict.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 10:46 GMT
#4256
just going by what i'm reading leading up to EoD, ritoky's overtaken superbia in the need-to-die stakes.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 10:48 GMT
#4259
given I was voting for Superbia, that does indeed encompass "everyone"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 10:53 GMT
#4260
On January 05 2015 13:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 13:53 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:49 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:46 justanothertownie wrote:
You have already 3 votes on you, 2 of which are supposedly confirmed town and I don't townread you.


Both of which have had absolute shit reasons for pushing on me, if they are even really town to begin with. Like I'm town. I was not here d1. Fucking hell.

You were also not here day2. Your play has been utter trash if you are town.


I was not here during n1 because I was hoping to get NKed. I was here during d2. Yeah, I haven't been able to put in as much time as I wanted to. I think my reads have been solid and I stand by them.

lol what? Never ever would that happen.

absolutely unbelievable.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 11:03 GMT
#4261
hmm. Robik looks pretty bad to me. That EoD was weak. Around, but not in any way engaged, and then berating despite offering zero assistance.

Unbelievably bizarre that Vivax picks out Jat for trying to make things happen.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:05 GMT
#4264
Robik being mafia actually makes sense in the context of the people pushing jat as mafia. At least Vivax went balls to the wall against jat, whereas Robik dropped this "slight scumlean" type stuff on jat and never did anything with it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:08 GMT
#4265
like I think Robik should at least have been questioning his Vivax scumread towards the end of the day. Maybe he still thinks Vivax is mafia after reappraising, but there was no reappraisal at all
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:09 GMT
#4266
On January 05 2015 20:03 Palmar wrote:
I don't think superbia is a good lynch over multiple other candidates like gb, marv, ritoky and a few others.

why don't you explain why GB is a better lynch than Superbia
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:19 GMT
#4267
actually i don't think we're in too bad a spot.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:19 GMT
#4268
well, not as bad as not having killed mafia yet seems anyway.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:25 GMT
#4271
uh, you posted multiple times in the runup to the lynch.

I don't disbelieve that you were running a new mafia stream

is all your conviction on vivax still from koshi, or.. ?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:27 GMT
#4272
On January 05 2015 20:24 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't know why I need to "push" my read there. I explained I was sheeping. Everyone who provided original content did a really fucking good job of lynching mafia. You all should be so fucking proud.

so what you're saying is, you shouldn't have to push your read to get him lynched? just shout at people from the sidelines?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:38 GMT
#4275
that argument is dumb, because several people said "we're only lynching vivax because koshi was so sure". people sure listened to koshi, doesn't make him 100% right because he flipped town necessarily, and there seems to be zero evaluation of play from you otherwise
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:42 GMT
#4276
On January 05 2015 20:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 20:27 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2015 20:24 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't know why I need to "push" my read there. I explained I was sheeping. Everyone who provided original content did a really fucking good job of lynching mafia. You all should be so fucking proud.

so what you're saying is, you shouldn't have to push your read to get him lynched? just shout at people from the sidelines?


Exactly what I criticized at EoD. All his scumreads he mentioned earlier were possible switches yet he didn't encourage shenannies on any of them but instead came back taunting us for lynching his not-scumread.

What I berated about JAT is that he only started posting valuable things at EoD while during the day he didn't try to make out the better lynch between me and geript. Not exactly what I said but I was alluding to the generaly style of play in that he only seems to become active in steering a lynch when it's 5 minutes until 12'o clock, if you know what I mean.

because it was difficult. I think it's pretty unfair to say he wasn't trying to figure things out, he just wasn't pushing hard. there's a difference.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:51 GMT
#4278
...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:52 GMT
#4279
if you're town you need to stop doing whatever this is. elsewise, carry on.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 11:58 GMT
#4281
i envy your predictive powers :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 13:34 GMT
#4303
On January 05 2015 22:30 sicklucker wrote:
Lm has been hard defending super for no reason for a long time.

this is a better reason to be suspicious of LM than what Vivax said.

just because sl was potentially incriminating LM, that still doesn't mean there's more than a negligble chance that mafia randomly claims cop under no pressure.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 13:39 GMT
#4308
On January 05 2015 22:39 sicklucker wrote:
Ya I saw robik give you a chat shoutout then I said sup tl mafia and you all ignored me;(

<3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 14:00 GMT
#4322
On January 05 2015 22:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 20:09 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2015 20:03 Palmar wrote:
I don't think superbia is a good lynch over multiple other candidates like gb, marv, ritoky and a few others.

why don't you explain why GB is a better lynch than Superbia


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
ritoky
GlowingBear
the lynch should be between ritoky/GB tomorrow


I'm just sheeping this guy

has anyone ever told you you're hilarious?

i'm guessing no
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 14:05 GMT
#4327
On January 05 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2015 20:57 sicklucker wrote:
Think the word is being a dick. If koshi was still in the game he would be down to lynch rotiky over vivax

No I'm quite sure he'd want to lynch Vivax.

Sorry guys btw, I'm bad this game.


I said the same thing if you add a "maybe" and he used it as an argument for me being scum.

Marv can you give us a take on VE as you two are buddies, I remember he was easily swayed from mine to geript's wagon but I totally don't recall why exactly he was swayed, I think he didn't say something like "Oh wow now I think Vivax is shitting townie bricks" so it kinda looks like he was just selecting between popular wagons.

Probably not one that will help you very much. like your points on what he did might be valid, but i've never been able to read VE like that. essentially always on tone.

i've had him kinda town on this basis for most of the game. the issue with this is that as my reads polarise a bit and there become better/longer reasons for people to be town, this gets weaker as something on its own

essentially i'm a little worried i'm townreading him when he's mafia, but at the moment i'm still plumping town, and there are way, way better targets than VE anyways.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 14:05 GMT
#4328
On January 05 2015 23:00 sicklucker wrote:
Ok im not the cop you got me

er
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 14:14 GMT
#4334
On January 05 2015 23:10 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 23:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 05 2015 23:00 sicklucker wrote:
Ok im not the cop you got me


wow, i am not surprised


you mean you took me srly???

i'm still assuming you're town, because it's still suicidal as mafia

pls don't do shit like that ever again ever. well, at least not if i'm in the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 14:29 GMT
#4344
On January 05 2015 23:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 23:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 05 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2015 20:57 sicklucker wrote:
Think the word is being a dick. If koshi was still in the game he would be down to lynch rotiky over vivax

No I'm quite sure he'd want to lynch Vivax.

Sorry guys btw, I'm bad this game.


I said the same thing if you add a "maybe" and he used it as an argument for me being scum.

Marv can you give us a take on VE as you two are buddies, I remember he was easily swayed from mine to geript's wagon but I totally don't recall why exactly he was swayed, I think he didn't say something like "Oh wow now I think Vivax is shitting townie bricks" so it kinda looks like he was just selecting between popular wagons.

Probably not one that will help you very much. like your points on what he did might be valid, but i've never been able to read VE like that. essentially always on tone.

i've had him kinda town on this basis for most of the game. the issue with this is that as my reads polarise a bit and there become better/longer reasons for people to be town, this gets weaker as something on its own


essentially i'm a little worried i'm townreading him when he's mafia, but at the moment i'm still plumping town, and there are way, way better targets than VE anyways.


pretty much mirrors my thoughts on him


Can you explain to me what a tone read is? Also the blded part ishard for me to understand.

lol. a tone read is just how someone sounds. i don't really know how to explain something so fundamental. i guess it would be, if you don't think about the content, how does that person come across to you?

to the bolded: quick example. Day 1: "I think VE's tone is townie" - that's easily a good enough reason not to lynch someone. LYLO: "I think VE's tone is townie" - well, that's no longer enough on its own to save/townread someone.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 14:30 GMT
#4345
On January 05 2015 23:27 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 23:24 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 23:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 05 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2015 20:57 sicklucker wrote:
Think the word is being a dick. If koshi was still in the game he would be down to lynch rotiky over vivax

No I'm quite sure he'd want to lynch Vivax.

Sorry guys btw, I'm bad this game.


I said the same thing if you add a "maybe" and he used it as an argument for me being scum.

Marv can you give us a take on VE as you two are buddies, I remember he was easily swayed from mine to geript's wagon but I totally don't recall why exactly he was swayed, I think he didn't say something like "Oh wow now I think Vivax is shitting townie bricks" so it kinda looks like he was just selecting between popular wagons.

Probably not one that will help you very much. like your points on what he did might be valid, but i've never been able to read VE like that. essentially always on tone.

i've had him kinda town on this basis for most of the game. the issue with this is that as my reads polarise a bit and there become better/longer reasons for people to be town, this gets weaker as something on its own


essentially i'm a little worried i'm townreading him when he's mafia, but at the moment i'm still plumping town, and there are way, way better targets than VE anyways.


pretty much mirrors my thoughts on him


Can you explain to me what a tone read is? Also the blded part ishard for me to understand.


tone is like tone of voice/post

the bolded part is saying that a tone read works for a d1 read but as the days progress and we have more information such as votes/night kills then things like tone become less relevant.

thx, you shall be my new spokesperson for marv-enterprises TM
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 14:33 GMT
#4348
On January 05 2015 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 23:27 sicklucker wrote:
Actually na fuck it im not the cop. I wanted to drag it out till the end of the night to rescind but I dont want the medic to be restricted to save me when mafia probably knows im fake by now. It woulda been smart if I did this with no medic but alas

My goal was obviously to take a bullet and gain information I made it pretty obvious to the real cop that I was pushing no hard agenda and Im sure no ones bad enough here to cc on day 2 for a likely vt.

I was softing hard and not committed to doing it. But I have a 100% way to prove im vt so I figured id dick around and see what info that would pop up.

The only thing you could do that is even dumber than the fakeclaim itself is rescinding at night. I have no words for this.

mm.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 14:35 GMT
#4352
On January 05 2015 23:34 sicklucker wrote:
Na theres no double stacking and mafia knows im fake like 70% of the time. So were wasting are medic save if I dont out. Dont worry I have it alot of thought.

how does that make sense? if you'd shut up you'd have been a likely hit AND save tonight
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 14:38 GMT
#4362
On January 05 2015 23:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 23:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can't really blame him jat, when things don't make sense I instinctively push for them too but you're right that it was bad.

I can and will blame him. It is not forbidden to use your brain from time to time.

I firmly disagree with that statement.

explains a lot bbz
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 14:53 GMT
#4369
how about I balance your cheek with my palm
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 14:55 GMT
#4373
damnit
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 14:58 GMT
#4378
Robik, dearest, why don't you care that I'm suspicious of you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 14:58 GMT
#4380
yah, tell me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 15:00 GMT
#4384
On January 05 2015 23:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote:
yah, tell me

Now he is using his own WIFOM to cover his tracks.

#highlevelplays
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 15:04 GMT
#4388
On January 06 2015 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2015 23:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote:
yah, tell me

Now he is using his own WIFOM to cover his tracks.

#highlevelplays

#tooobvious

#thatswhyitssohighlevel
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 15:06 GMT
#4392
On January 06 2015 00:06 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote:
Robik, dearest, why don't you care that I'm suspicious of you?

Cause you're not suspicious of me. Or you're mafia.

Given that vivax wasn't lynched there's 0 reason to be suspicious of me. If vivax was lynched and flipped town, then there would be need to worry, but since everyone decided to not lynch him like dumb dumbs, there's nothing to be suspicious of

i'm not sure you understand the game of mafia very well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 15:15 GMT
#4402
On January 06 2015 00:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 00:06 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 00:06 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote:
Robik, dearest, why don't you care that I'm suspicious of you?

Cause you're not suspicious of me. Or you're mafia.

Given that vivax wasn't lynched there's 0 reason to be suspicious of me. If vivax was lynched and flipped town, then there would be need to worry, but since everyone decided to not lynch him like dumb dumbs, there's nothing to be suspicious of

i'm not sure you understand the game of mafia very well.

town sucks and does stupid stuff.
mafia rolls because town doesn't listen to dead townies.
I think i'm familiar with the game

put it this way, someone's target flipping town is not the only reason to be suspicious of someone. In fact it's often pretty minor, as I think you know. And I also think you know that how you appraise your lynch/targets is relevant
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 15:18 GMT
#4406
it is a shocking deadline.
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 16:17 GMT
#4461
On January 06 2015 01:16 Palmar wrote:
Serious thoughts Robik. Do you think we should lynch marv?

why don't you stop touting for support and actually try?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 16:21 GMT
#4467
On January 06 2015 01:20 sicklucker wrote:
Hey marv do you want to join team robik?

I'm holding out on making my own team for team-marv vs team-palmar. watch this space.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 16:22 GMT
#4471
On January 06 2015 01:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:16 Palmar wrote:
Serious thoughts Robik. Do you think we should lynch marv?

why don't you stop touting for support and actually try?

What does it matter to you?

because you're not usually scared of trying to lynch me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 16:24 GMT
#4478
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marvellosity
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January 05 2015 16:25 GMT
#4479
On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote:
Jesus christ, you fucking did.

go on, this should be good
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 16:25 GMT
#4481
On January 06 2015 01:25 IAmRobik wrote:
marv...thought dump NOW!

i'm busy with something.

if you have a specific question, shoot.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 16:27 GMT
#4486
busy with plammmar, numbnuts.

actually being back at work is kinda useful for playing mafia, even though it's really busy today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 16:41 GMT
#4505
On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote:
Jesus christ, you fucking did.

go on, this should be good

See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight.

The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post.

Now, the important part here is your sentence

"you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly.

Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know.

You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you.

Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made.

The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.

also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.

tldr: lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 16:45 GMT
#4509
On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote:
Jesus christ, you fucking did.

go on, this should be good

See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight.

The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post.

Now, the important part here is your sentence

"you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly.

Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know.

You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you.

Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made.

The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.

also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.

tldr: lol


Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.

And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.

The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.

I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?

the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.

You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 16:47 GMT
#4511
On January 06 2015 01:46 KelsierSC wrote:
I could see marv and palmar being mafia here and just putting up this bullshit fight

i could see you being a massive idiot
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 16:48 GMT
#4514
On January 06 2015 01:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote:
Jesus christ, you fucking did.

go on, this should be good

See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight.

The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post.

Now, the important part here is your sentence

"you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly.

Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know.

You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you.

Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made.

The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.

also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.

tldr: lol


Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.

And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.

The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.

I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?

the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.

You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.

Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_>

wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 16:50 GMT
#4519
On January 06 2015 01:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote:
Jesus christ, you fucking did.

go on, this should be good

See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight.

The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post.

Now, the important part here is your sentence

"you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly.

Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know.

You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you.

Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made.

The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.

also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.

tldr: lol


Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.

And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.

The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.

I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?

the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.

You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.

Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_>

wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town?

Yes, when you were scum.

duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 16:53 GMT
#4521
On January 06 2015 01:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:50 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
go on, this should be good

See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight.

The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post.

Now, the important part here is your sentence

"you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly.

Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know.

You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you.

Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made.

The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.

also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.

tldr: lol


Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.

And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.

The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.

I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?

the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.

You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.

Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_>

wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town?

Yes, when you were scum.

duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games

hm

you're being silly.

the point is this: when Palmar has been town, he's treated me in x way (and yes i was mafia in those two games, dem's how the dice rolled)
here he is treating me in a completely different way (even though he has called me mafia all game)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 16:55 GMT
#4523
On January 06 2015 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:50 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.

also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.

tldr: lol


Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.

And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.

The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.

I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?

the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.

You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.

Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_>

wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town?

Yes, when you were scum.

duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games

hm

you're being silly.

the point is this: when Palmar has been town, he's treated me in x way (and yes i was mafia in those two games, dem's how the dice rolled)
here he is treating me in a completely different way (even though he has called me mafia all game)

Yeah, but I am also threating you differently.

you've not called me mafia all game, as far as i can tell you want to lynch me when i've been away from the thread for a while, and then kinda townread me while i'm around even though you don't want to
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:02 GMT
#4530
OH MY GOD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:03 GMT
#4533
On January 06 2015 01:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:46 KelsierSC wrote:
I could see marv and palmar being mafia here and just putting up this bullshit fight

i could see you being a massive idiot


hurtful.

Anyway so I look at this game so far and we see D1 that the wagon is two townies so mafia doesn't really have to do anything, if you vote geript and leave it there you don't really have to do anything when the bats wagon starts.

So did marv and palmar really do anything EOD, not really.

so d2, both of them vote on viv but are pretty easily convinced to vote elsewhere, I didn't see effort put in at all in d2. Again with the lynch pretty firmly on geript there is no real reason to get involved.

No it is n2, we have lots of vote information and plenty to go on and marv and palmar have an argument like.

"you aren't pushing me so you are mafia"

"why are you calling me scared , that makes you mafia"

as far as i'm aware palmar and marv are good players and this ridiculous squabble is what they focus on. No I don't buy this argument for a second , it looks incredibly awkward and false.

I could see a scum team that contains marv and palmar

i'm asleep EoD, shockingly.

also you need to play more games with me and Palmar.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:05 GMT
#4536
On January 06 2015 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:00 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:55 sicklucker wrote:
I dont know whats going on but I like it carry on

NO. NO. IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF MY TEAM YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS FUCKING PLAMMMMAR/MARV SHIT IS BULLSHIT.

MARV, THOUGHT DUMP IMMEDIATELY...THIS SHIT WITH PLAMMMAR IS FUCKING USELESS

I DISCOVERED THE CAPSLOCK KEY! GODDAMMIT!

This shit is boring. You even said it yourself -- palmar is the only one who is able to draw any conclusion from this bullshit tit for tat they have going.

Marv is looking scummier from it because he said he's busy with plammmar, but he's not even interacting in a way that would convince the rest of us that plammmar is scum or that marv is town. furthermore, marv isnt' even expressing any opinions on palmar from it, just basically that palmar is dumb and that kelsier is dumb.

You're fucking cool marv.

do you ever get bored from being an enormous hypocrite, dear?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:13 GMT
#4547
anyhoo. we should lynch into Superbia/ritoky tomorrow.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:14 GMT
#4552
On January 06 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:13 marvellosity wrote:
anyhoo. we should lynch vivax tomorrow.

Yo. We are finally on the same wavelength

i could spite lynch him. does that count?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:15 GMT
#4553
everyone should stop using my post for their own devilish ends. Swines
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:17 GMT
#4559
On January 06 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:13 marvellosity wrote:
anyhoo. we should lynch vivax tomorrow.

Yo. We are finally on the same wavelength

i could spite lynch him. does that count?

how would he be a spite lynch? dafuq?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474082-imperial-mafia?page=227#4539

calm down lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:17 GMT
#4560
On January 06 2015 02:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:15 marvellosity wrote:
everyone should stop using my post for their own devilish ends. Swines

UNLESS YOU DISAGREE THEN DON'T CALL MY END DEVILISH! PERHAPS IT IS THE SAME END YOU SEEK!!!

if it's not full facial then i doubt it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:20 GMT
#4567
On January 06 2015 02:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:13 marvellosity wrote:
anyhoo. we should lynch vivax tomorrow.

Yo. We are finally on the same wavelength

i could spite lynch him. does that count?

how would he be a spite lynch? dafuq?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474082-imperial-mafia?page=227#4539

calm down lol

you don't "spite lynch" mafia. You lynch mafia cause thye're mafia.

not sure exactly why you're taking my response to you changing my sentence so seriously robik
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:21 GMT
#4568
On January 06 2015 02:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Still waiting for your thought dump marv....it's been 3 pages since your silly fight with plammmar ended

my only important thoughts are who we should lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:22 GMT
#4571
he never agrees with my scumreads. leads to a lot of him apologising to me. in my head.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:30 GMT
#4585
On January 06 2015 02:23 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Still waiting for your thought dump marv....it's been 3 pages since your silly fight with plammmar ended

my only important thoughts are who we should lynch.

no. who you think is town is also important. I'm gonna kill you tonight. Leave a legacy

People town should never lynch:
jat
DrH
sl

People town should have to have amazing reasons to lynch because i really think they are town:
Artanis
Kelsier
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:33 GMT
#4594
On January 06 2015 02:30 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:23 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Still waiting for your thought dump marv....it's been 3 pages since your silly fight with plammmar ended

my only important thoughts are who we should lynch.

no. who you think is town is also important. I'm gonna kill you tonight. Leave a legacy

People town should never lynch:
jat
DrH
sl

People town should have to have amazing reasons to lynch because i really think they are town:
Artanis
Kelsier

now name the other 3 scum

we only have to lynch one tomorrow

why don't you make your own list and have fun by guessing which guys are mafia by PoE, given my townreads?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:33 GMT
#4596
On January 06 2015 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm doing stuff, that's false. I'm interested in the game as evidenced by my presence, so that's false.

I exist regardless of my alignment. Also a terrible reasoning. You and marv die tomorrow.

where the heck did this come from?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:35 GMT
#4600
On January 06 2015 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm doing stuff, that's false. I'm interested in the game as evidenced by my presence, so that's false.

I exist regardless of my alignment. Also a terrible reasoning. You and marv die tomorrow.

where the heck did this come from?

You're hard defending mafia. You don't do that as town. Vis a vis....

mr 38 page jat is this?

are you fucking insane?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:36 GMT
#4601
34 pages. I exaggerate.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:37 GMT
#4604
On January 06 2015 02:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm doing stuff, that's false. I'm interested in the game as evidenced by my presence, so that's false.

I exist regardless of my alignment. Also a terrible reasoning. You and marv die tomorrow.

where the heck did this come from?

You're hard defending mafia. You don't do that as town. Vis a vis....

mr 38 page jat is this?

are you fucking insane?

Have you seen his fucking posts? Fucking anyone can have 38 pages with posts like his. He's called posts of mine cute THREE TIMES! Fuck you if you think he can't do that as mafia.

he can't. literally no-one can. Not even Holyflare posts this much and he is the postiest mafia ever.

so no, he can't do this as mafia. stop being terrible.

I don't hard defend mafia as mafia either. as you should know.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:40 GMT
#4608
this reminds me quite a bit of the Normal I hosted where town ridiculously lynched rayn who had the longest filter, because gosh darnit it's easy to find scummy things when someone has a bazillion posts.

it's so ridiculous.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:41 GMT
#4609
i don't understand why people think their subjective scumhunting skills are better than a heuristic that has failed in one game ever?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:42 GMT
#4611
On January 06 2015 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:41 marvellosity wrote:
i don't understand why people think their subjective scumhunting skills are better than a heuristic that has failed in one game ever?

Almost all of your "scumhunting skills" are subjective, being a meta magnate. Get over your one fucking read marv.

but this one isn't, so why are you making stupid reads?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:43 GMT
#4615
On January 06 2015 02:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:42 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:41 marvellosity wrote:
i don't understand why people think their subjective scumhunting skills are better than a heuristic that has failed in one game ever?

Almost all of your "scumhunting skills" are subjective, being a meta magnate. Get over your one fucking read marv.

but this one isn't, so why are you making stupid reads?

Can you not think of a single reason marv? Really?

do i need to leave this alone for now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:48 GMT
#4622
On January 06 2015 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:42 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:41 marvellosity wrote:
i don't understand why people think their subjective scumhunting skills are better than a heuristic that has failed in one game ever?

Almost all of your "scumhunting skills" are subjective, being a meta magnate. Get over your one fucking read marv.

but this one isn't, so why are you making stupid reads?

Can you not think of a single reason marv? Really?

do i need to leave this alone for now?

I don't know do you? What does your gut say?

it says the holidays have been generous to it.

let's continue another time.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:58 GMT
#4630
On January 06 2015 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I get it. He's got some meta reason for thinking that "marv knows I'm not afraid to push him".

Palmar is town here, and he's observed marv observing him pushing for marv's lynch as both marvTown and marvScum. He's operating under the assumption that marv as either alignment will have remembered these instances so knows when marv says "Palmar is scared to push" he knows it's false.

It's not a difficult case to grasp, the question is: does it make marv mafia? DOES marv know Palmar isn't scared to push? WOULD marv say otherwise EXCLUSIVELY as mafia? I don't know, but Palmar seems to be sure.

you're kinda ignoring the important part of what palmar has actually done about it this game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:59 GMT
#4632
people are calling me mafia for ridiculous reasons, this has to be a good sign

of what, i'm not sure
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 17:59 GMT
#4633
On January 06 2015 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:58 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I get it. He's got some meta reason for thinking that "marv knows I'm not afraid to push him".

Palmar is town here, and he's observed marv observing him pushing for marv's lynch as both marvTown and marvScum. He's operating under the assumption that marv as either alignment will have remembered these instances so knows when marv says "Palmar is scared to push" he knows it's false.

It's not a difficult case to grasp, the question is: does it make marv mafia? DOES marv know Palmar isn't scared to push? WOULD marv say otherwise EXCLUSIVELY as mafia? I don't know, but Palmar seems to be sure.

you're kinda ignoring the important part of what palmar has actually done about it this game

The "nothing" part? I get that too. The thing is that he could just not be sure as town right?

"marv is mafia but i don't want to lynch him today"

you know he actually said that, right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:01 GMT
#4638
On January 06 2015 03:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel like he might have been joking at the time. Like not actually thinking you're mafia, just saying that. He's known to do so. I would know.

why are you making excuses for him? it didn't look like a joke.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:04 GMT
#4646
On January 06 2015 03:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like that's just how it seemed to me at the time marv, I'm not making excuses for him at all. Why are you asking ME about what PALMAR did in the first place and expecting answers if you don't fucking want them?

because you're presenting what happened in a very one-sided fashion and I don't know why you're doing it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:05 GMT
#4649
On January 06 2015 03:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I get it. He's got some meta reason for thinking that "marv knows I'm not afraid to push him".

Palmar is town here, and he's observed marv observing him pushing for marv's lynch as both marvTown and marvScum. He's operating under the assumption that marv as either alignment will have remembered these instances so knows when marv says "Palmar is scared to push" he knows it's false.

It's not a difficult case to grasp, the question is: does it make marv mafia? DOES marv know Palmar isn't scared to push? WOULD marv say otherwise EXCLUSIVELY as mafia? I don't know, but Palmar seems to be sure.


Marv's question to Palmar implied that Palmar was scum (cause afraid of pushing)
TownMarv should already have a townread on Palmar since D1 based on some tells of which they share the knowledge.
Hence, Marv doesn't believe that Palmar is afraid of pushing him, but still asks him if he is in an attempt to soft-push suspicion onto Palmar.

This is my interpretation of the thing but I'd like if Palmar made that a bit more digestible.

you should read the thread before getting your little dick hard about lynching me vivax. Palmar repeatedly retracted the part about how i should be townreading him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 18:10 GMT
#4661
On January 06 2015 03:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:05 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:04 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I get it. He's got some meta reason for thinking that "marv knows I'm not afraid to push him".

Palmar is town here, and he's observed marv observing him pushing for marv's lynch as both marvTown and marvScum. He's operating under the assumption that marv as either alignment will have remembered these instances so knows when marv says "Palmar is scared to push" he knows it's false.

It's not a difficult case to grasp, the question is: does it make marv mafia? DOES marv know Palmar isn't scared to push? WOULD marv say otherwise EXCLUSIVELY as mafia? I don't know, but Palmar seems to be sure.


Marv's question to Palmar implied that Palmar was scum (cause afraid of pushing)
TownMarv should already have a townread on Palmar since D1 based on some tells of which they share the knowledge.
Hence, Marv doesn't believe that Palmar is afraid of pushing him, but still asks him if he is in an attempt to soft-push suspicion onto Palmar.

This is my interpretation of the thing but I'd like if Palmar made that a bit more digestible.

you should read the thread before getting your little dick hard about lynching me vivax. Palmar repeatedly retracted the part about how i should be townreading him.


I'll leave that discussion to you two when he's back. I'm peacing out now. Mr.massiveDick.

We have 2-3 kg of bacteria in our colon and rectum, be sure to brush off as many as possible with your massive willy.

i'm more of a receiver cupcake
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:12 GMT
#4665
On January 06 2015 03:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:08 KelsierSC wrote:
I also feel there is a mafia between Marv and Palmar and I would say it is probably Palmar

I could feasibly roll with this. I almost agree with marv like, if he thought this he could have said it before now. The timing feels off.

you do realise i said it because Palmar asked Robik about lynching me, yes?

I rather think that's some lovely timing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:14 GMT
#4670
On January 06 2015 03:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:10 IAmRobik wrote:
I think it would actually be cool if I was the voice of 4 people and kelsier/sicklucker/gb didn't post all game and I just controlled their voice and votes....even if 1 of them is scum

But you literally just said you're gonna lynch me, so that's about the most uncool thing that could ever happen.

What do you think about the marv/Palmar thing that you've so graciously informed us is not very interesting?

Nah. I'm lynching Vivax...I'm just leaving the avenue open to possibly lynch you tomorrow if my uncontrollably big dick decides to swing in that general direction

"uncontrollably"

sounds awks
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:15 GMT
#4674
On January 06 2015 03:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'd like to hear what people have to say on my LM argument.

Any reason why this guy lives tomorrow?


LM has an ok shot of being mafia.

ritoky and superbia have better shots.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:17 GMT
#4680
On January 06 2015 03:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:15 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'd like to hear what people have to say on my LM argument.

Any reason why this guy lives tomorrow?


LM has an ok shot of being mafia.

ritoky and superbia have better shots.


what about viv?

for now i want to pretend he doesn't exist and lynch the mafia who are scumming around while everyone else argues.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:20 GMT
#4686
On January 06 2015 03:18 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't know if marv sacrifices his rolling-town elation in exchange for a single game where he'll be able to win as mafia

do you also think if I couldn't be assed playing mafia last time, I'd suddenly be on course for my longest filter ever as mafia in the very next game? ^^ (despite NYE+holidays)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:22 GMT
#4691
On January 06 2015 03:21 IAmRobik wrote:
Have I called you scum, clown?

did I say you did, pooface?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:22 GMT
#4693
insults are better when they aren't insulting
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:24 GMT
#4698
On January 06 2015 03:23 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:22 marvellosity wrote:
insults are better when they aren't insulting

do you know how many people are petrified of clowns. Pretty suer that's the most insulting thing I've ever said. Like, no one is afraid of a douchebag

not me. I was about to tell you what i'm afraid of, but i'm pretty sure someone in the thread would bring pictures and I'd hate that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:48 GMT
#4742
On January 06 2015 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:42 sicklucker wrote:
We put marv and palmer in a cage and they fought about stuff we dont care about and we chose marv.
Marvs reads are really good. Like hes trying to hard as mafia I think is a great read after last game.

Like a gladiator match? Neat.
G2g

It wasn't actually that impressive or interesting. More like 2 toddlers fighting.

*glares*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:49 GMT
#4743
On January 06 2015 03:25 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:24 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:23 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:22 marvellosity wrote:
insults are better when they aren't insulting

do you know how many people are petrified of clowns. Pretty suer that's the most insulting thing I've ever said. Like, no one is afraid of a douchebag

not me. I was about to tell you what i'm afraid of, but i'm pretty sure someone in the thread would bring pictures and I'd hate that.

vaginas?

actually yes but that wasn't what i was thinking of.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:50 GMT
#4745
On January 06 2015 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:39 sicklucker wrote:
I have decided that robik cant be mafia since gerit was town from vote analyst hes also looked good today.

This read is still utter horseshit.



This is all you're doing, JAT. Saying people are dumb, saying reads are shit, but doing NOTHING to move the thread forward. I can't possibly read you as town.

This is what happens when you don't read the game. I am the ONLY person that DID move the thread forward in the sense of finding a lynch EOD on both days. But I won't stop you from further embarassing yourself by calling me scum.

like regardless of jat's alignment (which i've been quite clear about), saying jat has done nothing to move the thread forward is actually quite ludicrous.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 18:54 GMT
#4750
On January 06 2015 03:53 GlowingBear wrote:
LOL I rest my case.

you can't rest an invisible case.

or at least you'll look really weird doing it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 21:31 GMT
#4785
On January 06 2015 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Maaaaaarv?

hai
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 21:32 GMT
#4787
On January 06 2015 06:31 Superbia wrote:
I'll re-iterate that we should look in the direction of the wagon instigators tomorrow. I also kind of like Robik's point on the Koshi kill, but I'll have to double check Koshi's reads myself.

who in particular?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 21:32 GMT
#4788
On January 06 2015 06:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv I just found Robik to be mafia! Rejoice!

hurray!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 21:35 GMT
#4790
VE you realise Robik already talked about this earlier right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 21:43 GMT
#4801
On January 06 2015 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Maaaaaarv?

hai

What is Palmars alignment?

at this point, PoE alone suggests he has a pretty decent chance of flipping mafia.

it's possible what he was pushing earlier came from town, but it's wrong and his sudden certainty of it is weird.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 21:46 GMT
#4805
right this moment i'm waiting for robik to reply
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 21:53 GMT
#4809
On January 06 2015 06:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote:
VE you realise Robik already talked about this earlier right?

Maybe I'm blind (I often am) but what post(s) are you refering to here btw?

somewhere in robik's filter?

by "talked about" i mean "mentioned" rather than some epic dialogue
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 21:53 GMT
#4810
On January 06 2015 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 06:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 06 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote:
VE you realise Robik already talked about this earlier right?

Maybe I'm blind (I often am) but what post(s) are you refering to here btw?

Probably his QT <3

zomg </3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 22:03 GMT
#4814
maybe I just meant when he was responding to VE and it's part of the same conversation?

I swear I'm not crazy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 22:03 GMT
#4815
On January 06 2015 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 06:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh boy did robik just claim scum?


[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 22:10 GMT
#4826
actually that's right, i went back to check, the votecount just before he said that was geript - vivax 5-5

then according to eye-witnesses robik was spotted in a dingy bar called Video Mafia and he didn't post from that point till basically deadline, in between jat switched to super etc
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 22:10 GMT
#4828
i.e. he wouldn't have known that superbia was gaining traction and vivax had lost traction, necessarily
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 22:12 GMT
#4832
On January 06 2015 07:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 06 2015 07:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Hmm, it is not as exciting as I hoped.

It's fine. When I die tonight remember how pretty Robik looked on that silver platter before you threw it in the garbage.

If you die tonight you'll be a dead townie and as Robik says we should listen to dead townies more.

lol i c wat u did thar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 05 2015 22:13 GMT
#4836
On January 06 2015 07:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm reminded of Blazinghand putting down boxes in his house and taking a picture to tell the thread how he was moving.

please don't remind me of that retarded town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 22:14 GMT
#4839
On January 06 2015 07:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 07:13 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 07:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm reminded of Blazinghand putting down boxes in his house and taking a picture to tell the thread how he was moving.

please don't remind me of that retarded town

That was actually really funny.

i was incredibly unamused when people bought it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 05 2015 22:31 GMT
#4852
i think we probably shouldn't get into a discussion about robik's behaviour :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 05 2015 22:45 GMT
#4870
oh god
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 09:43 GMT
#4997
just read this last page before work.

Vivax why do you consistently attack really obvious townies this game?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 10:18 GMT
#5007
On January 06 2015 18:54 Vivax wrote:
Not even going to answer to marv as he's one of the guys who know my meta best. Similar to Palmar's weird read on him during the night, if he doesn't already have a firm read on me and asks me such questions that imply he's starting to suspect me, he's mafia.

nice. no-one believes this though. for good reason
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 10:19 GMT
#5011
a blithering drunk loon?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 10:22 GMT
#5013
tbh vivax can wait

let's kill the mafia in front of us

##Vote: ritoky
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 10:26 GMT
#5017
On January 06 2015 19:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
tbh vivax can wait

let's kill the mafia in front of us

##Vote: ritoky


Usually you enjoy lynching me when you're town, even moreso when I call you scum and you're town so this makes you mafia too.

But it's alright marv, you played decently, after you got all your kills it's time your team gets trashed a bit too, so just sit back and watch things happen. I still gotta figure out two of your buddies.

you're cute and funny.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 10:28 GMT
#5018
If I were mafia and you were town, Vivax, how scared I'd be of you this game would probably be negative numbers, because all you do is type nonsense
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 10:33 GMT
#5023
On January 06 2015 16:12 Vivax wrote:
And if you want to know one example of how I play scum, here's the scum qt from Titanic mafia [some number].

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/8tECwNmGtaf7

Palmar:
Show nested quote +

Sure, then we shoot koshi or something. Or we might just shoot Holyflare, I don't really care.

Also Austin and Vivax I'm bussing the fuck out of you. You're fired from my mafia team.



Show nested quote +
I literally want to lynch you for failing to produce 40 posts vivax. It was a simple request from Koshi.


Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 07:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Flips] +
Coagulation the Art Student (vanilla town) was modkilled on Day 1
Vivax the Edouard Manet (roleblocker) was lynched Day 1
Holyflare the Art Student (vanilla town) died Night 1
Giggletummy the Vincent van Gogh (godfather) died Night 1
djodref the Art Student (Vanilla Town) was lynched Day 2
thrawn2112 the Art Student (Vanilla Town) died Night 2




Yes, I am THIS bad and unmotivated at playing scum and I have a really hard time producing a lot of content when I'm scum. And when you say I'm scum this game after reading my scum games then you need to get your brain checked. There are worlds apart between my scum play and my town play.

haaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaa

earlier in the thread you argued with me, at length, about an example of yours where you were mafia and had a shit-tonne of posts and led the town astray with great aplomb

now you try to use this argument that you're shit and unmotivated as mafia?

my, aren't these arguments convenient?!
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 10:36 GMT
#5024
On January 06 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:
marv if you're town, why do you think you're alive?

Like I know the same answer for myself, because I've been hilariously bad throughout this game. However it's totally within my meta to be bad occasionally. Not sure about yours.

stupid question.

i'm sure you can figure out last night's NKs for yourself.

why are you even asking me this? there's no answer to be given, whether i'm town or mafia.
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January 06 2015 10:51 GMT
#5028
On January 06 2015 19:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 19:36 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:
marv if you're town, why do you think you're alive?

Like I know the same answer for myself, because I've been hilariously bad throughout this game. However it's totally within my meta to be bad occasionally. Not sure about yours.

stupid question.

i'm sure you can figure out last night's NKs for yourself.

why are you even asking me this? there's no answer to be given, whether i'm town or mafia.

Is there an obvious reason VE was killed?

i'm guessing because he was medic darling.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 10:54 GMT
#5032
On January 06 2015 19:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 19:51 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 19:47 Palmar wrote:
On January 06 2015 19:36 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:
marv if you're town, why do you think you're alive?

Like I know the same answer for myself, because I've been hilariously bad throughout this game. However it's totally within my meta to be bad occasionally. Not sure about yours.

stupid question.

i'm sure you can figure out last night's NKs for yourself.

why are you even asking me this? there's no answer to be given, whether i'm town or mafia.

Is there an obvious reason VE was killed?

i'm guessing because he was medic darling.

Did we know that?

he got mad at robik and said "i'm medic you cunt" or words to that effect and went off in a huff.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 10:59 GMT
#5035
you literally gave it as your prime example to counter my argument that the largest filter pushing things at EoD was never mafia. So you must have felt it was pretty worthy. Now you downplay yourself.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 11:01 GMT
#5038
also this doesn't make you mafia, but i'm super amused in your previous towngame you went on and on and on and on about listening to dead people, and now all the dead people here want to kill you.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 11:02 GMT
#5039
On January 06 2015 20:00 ritoky wrote:
Now as I mentioned before, his claim is the worst since I bungled the crap out of a fake cop claim about 5 months ago? Not exactly sure, been sifting through my games trying to find the posts so I can quote them, no luck so far. If I find them I will quote them. The point is, I did something VERY similar to what SL did in terms of cop claim, where I faked a check, changed my story, and in night phase I rescinded my claim. It was met with such utter hostility and regarded as the worst play people had ever seen both during and after the game. One person in particular was championing that: Robik. He was mafia in the game, so his in game comments are negligible but he spent 2 solid pages after the game railing into me about how it was the worst play ever and he would lynch the living hell out of anyone who did that stupid crap as either alignment. In this game? He seems to have simply accepted it with 0 qualms. Robik could very well be mafia here.

you were town there?
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January 06 2015 11:05 GMT
#5041
On January 06 2015 20:04 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 20:00 ritoky wrote:
Now as I mentioned before, his claim is the worst since I bungled the crap out of a fake cop claim about 5 months ago? Not exactly sure, been sifting through my games trying to find the posts so I can quote them, no luck so far. If I find them I will quote them. The point is, I did something VERY similar to what SL did in terms of cop claim, where I faked a check, changed my story, and in night phase I rescinded my claim. It was met with such utter hostility and regarded as the worst play people had ever seen both during and after the game. One person in particular was championing that: Robik. He was mafia in the game, so his in game comments are negligible but he spent 2 solid pages after the game railing into me about how it was the worst play ever and he would lynch the living hell out of anyone who did that stupid crap as either alignment. In this game? He seems to have simply accepted it with 0 qualms. Robik could very well be mafia here.

you were town there?


yes i was VT, fake claimed cop with red check on someone, rescinded the red check and said actually had green check on diff person, then rescinded cop claim in night phase. not exactly same case as here, but similar enough to where robik should have freaked at least a little.

So what are you doing? You spend multiple paragraphs throwing shit on sl for making a play that you also did as... town?

Then Robik acted one way as mafia, and acts a totally different way this time, so he is mafia? How does that make sense?
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January 06 2015 11:11 GMT
#5043
oh right i see. what was his reaction during the actual game?
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January 06 2015 11:13 GMT
#5045
On January 06 2015 20:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 19:59 marvellosity wrote:
you literally gave it as your prime example to counter my argument that the largest filter pushing things at EoD was never mafia. So you must have felt it was pretty worthy. Now you downplay yourself.


It doesn't matter as I was talking about my general level of scum play to SL, overall I always have low activity and in that particular case I had a surge of activity when I saved Obi from getting lynched over another townie for obvious benefits. I never had the largest filter as mafia and I only made it once to endgame, that's a fact.

then why the shit were you trying to use it as an example to counter my point about largest filter + trying at EoD?

just randomly decided to ditch half my premise or something?
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 11:16 GMT
#5048
On January 06 2015 20:14 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
oh right i see. what was his reaction during the actual game?


can't remember it exactly, hence why i am looking for it. i think i soft claimed cop with a check, but didn't want to out the check until later in the phase, he spammed me with caps until i outed the check. then when i changed the check he really wanted to lynch me but someone talked him out of it. then when i rescinded the cop claim entirely he went ape shit. don't quote me on that exactly though, like i said i haven't found the game yet.

the thing is, right, what people say they would do when they're not in-game doesn't necessarily reflect on what they would do in-game, for a whole number of reasons

the important reference is how they dealt with it in-game, and if they're dissimilar, then that's actually a decent argument for robik being town, primarily because he's not shitting the thread up about a claim that's actually very likely to make sl town.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 11:20 GMT
#5050
because mafia just don't fakeclaim cop for no reason under zero pressure.

everything else doesn't matter.
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January 06 2015 11:32 GMT
#5054
On January 06 2015 20:29 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 20:14 ritoky wrote:
On January 06 2015 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
oh right i see. what was his reaction during the actual game?


can't remember it exactly, hence why i am looking for it. i think i soft claimed cop with a check, but didn't want to out the check until later in the phase, he spammed me with caps until i outed the check. then when i changed the check he really wanted to lynch me but someone talked him out of it. then when i rescinded the cop claim entirely he went ape shit. don't quote me on that exactly though, like i said i haven't found the game yet.

the thing is, right, what people say they would do when they're not in-game doesn't necessarily reflect on what they would do in-game, for a whole number of reasons

the important reference is how they dealt with it in-game, and if they're dissimilar, then that's actually a decent argument for robik being town, primarily because he's not shitting the thread up about a claim that's actually very likely to make sl town.


i think post-game is more relevant because it is agenda-less and he has no reason to lie at that point. which should convey his actual feelings about claims like that. the fact that he is masking that here is odd to me. as i said, i am undecided on it leaning toward it making him mafia.

it's not about lying or having an agenda post-game, the fact is the reality of playing a game is different to an outside view of playing the game.

like i always think i should policy lynch x or y doing z things, or if x happened in the game then i'd do y. the problem is, in a game you're invested in winning, and you have your subjective reads, so even if i said before, with no agenda, that i should policy lynch x, if x happens and I'm townreading x, I'm very likely not going to follow through on my policy because I think he's town and i want to win.

that was exceptionally waffly but what i'm trying to say is realities of in-game != how you want to play the game objectively outside-of-game
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 11:44 GMT
#5060
On January 06 2015 20:42 ritoky wrote:
I still find marv being on the second wagon BOTH times as really bizarre and makes me for certain want to keep him in my scum pile. Like my eyes were drawn to it last time, and when I redid it with my top 3 town reads I noticed it again.


You are aware that I go to bed several hours before deadline (being european), and on d1 batsnacks didn't have a single vote when i went to sleep, yes?

it's like scumreading me for not being awake at 5am. it's ... ridiculous.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 11:45 GMT
#5061
On January 06 2015 20:43 sicklucker wrote:
Marv do you not remember how me and vivax used are lynch lists to solve the christmas game? Do you not see how hes blatantly not giving me his list this game

yes. but Vivax is a stubborn ox in general and on that particular point, it doesn't make him scum.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 12:35 GMT
#5085
so essentially you're scumreading me for awful reasons and refusing to re-evaluate reads based on another bs excuse

let's lynch ritoky
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 12:58 GMT
#5103
On January 06 2015 21:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
So If SL isn't cop, why are we not lynching him?

why are you asking a question that I & others have explained repeatedly?
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January 06 2015 13:00 GMT
#5105
On January 06 2015 21:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 21:53 Damdred wrote:
On January 06 2015 21:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
So If SL isn't cop, why are we not lynching him?


why would we mafia wouldn't claim most likely in that situation...

SL was under heavy pressure when he claimed though. Trading 1-1 for a counter claim is really good in that situation.

Can't post alot atm but yhea, SL is scum.

he was under pressure from one person and had zero votes on him

are you fucking serious?
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 13:06 GMT
#5111
On January 06 2015 22:04 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 22:00 marvellosity wrote:
On January 06 2015 21:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 06 2015 21:53 Damdred wrote:
On January 06 2015 21:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
So If SL isn't cop, why are we not lynching him?


why would we mafia wouldn't claim most likely in that situation...

SL was under heavy pressure when he claimed though. Trading 1-1 for a counter claim is really good in that situation.

Can't post alot atm but yhea, SL is scum.

he was under pressure from one person and had zero votes on him

are you fucking serious?


he obviously felt he was under enough pressure to fake claim cop

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plus he had 2 votes on him

you're right, my bad.

he had 2 votes from the absolute lurkiest players in the game. That must have really ramped up the pressure.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 13:07 GMT
#5113
the fact that the votes on sl were ritoky and superbia should make anyone think twice about pushing sl tbh.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 13:42 GMT
#5119
an impressively shit post
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January 06 2015 14:52 GMT
#5140
On January 06 2015 23:49 KelsierSC wrote:
I think it is weird that mafia used both shots last night.

if there is a chance they believe SL to be the cop then isn't the right play to just use the 1KP that night and let the medic save him, then tonight they can kill SL and any confirmed towns.
So this implies they absolutely know for sure that SL isn't the real cop

unless they believe the vigi is going to get lynched today of course.

I think you think about nks too much

I will say I don't think I can remember an occasion where mafia held on to their vigi shots when they had them. People just like to kill when they have KP available to them, generally speaking.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 15:00 GMT
#5143
GB, do you think it's likely Palmar and I are mafia together?
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 15:11 GMT
#5146
On January 07 2015 00:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
GB, do you think it's likely Palmar and I are mafia together?


Why not?

can you think of any possible reasons?
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 15:12 GMT
#5148
On January 07 2015 00:11 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 00:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 07 2015 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
GB, do you think it's likely Palmar and I are mafia together?


Why not?


theres very good reasons. Like like had this horrible 2 hour convo that I highly doubt they fake as no one understood any of it.

Gb your reads are shiy but you blatantly admit to not reading the thread so whatever. Your right about palmer at least.

the thing is, if he's going to have scumreads on both of us, he should at least have had a browse through our filters...
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 15:21 GMT
#5157
On January 07 2015 00:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
On January 07 2015 00:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 07 2015 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
GB, do you think it's likely Palmar and I are mafia together?


Why not?

can you think of any possible reasons?


I'm reading palmar as scum for only that post I've quoted

I'm reading you as scum because you had no influence in those lynches + I don't see you actually trying to figure the game out + you're still alive

Who are your townreads? I know you have a very good ability to find town

but essentially all your reads are completely made up and you haven't gone back to double check anything

like, i get being massively behind and you can't catch up on the thread.

but it's like you have these reads without going back and checking anything, at all.

like here you're asking me a question that you should absolutely know the answer to give I answered it in list form during the night phase. i can't tell if you're bad enough to scumread me without having read basically most of my filter. i hope not?..
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 15:27 GMT
#5160
On January 07 2015 00:24 IAmRobik wrote:
marv, why are you unwilling to lynch vivax. give me one good reason why you keep diverting attention off of him

because ritoky is more likely mafia

there exists the possibility that vivax just has a screw loose
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#5161
then again the temptation to kill him for the enormous amount of terrible shit he says about me is great.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 15:37 GMT
#5165
i applaud the lack of bias in that post Vivax
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 16:01 GMT
#5184
On January 07 2015 00:50 IAmRobik wrote:
2; GlowingBear - lean scum
4; Artanis[XP] - lean town
5; Lazermonkey - lean heavy town
6; Marvellosity - step it up sson
9; TheChyz - unsure
10; Palmar - unsure
11; Damdred - unsure
13; sicklucker - lean town but unsure
14; Vivax - lean heavy scum
15; KelsierSC - lean town
16; ritoky - lean town
17; DoctorHelvetica - had the towniest town of any town d1 and is basically confirmed town even with the d2 drop off
20; Superbia - lean scum

it's perfectly possible you explained this read somewhere before

but pls do so again because i don't get it.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 16:03 GMT
#5185
On January 07 2015 00:58 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't know why anyone quits as town. I understand not wanting to play as scum. But town? That's the most fun role ever. YOU GET TO SOLVE THE GAME.

i think sl is right, but i don't share the absolute conviction he does. chez replacing in isn't really a massive boon to trying to read that slot any more though :/
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 16:07 GMT
#5189
On January 07 2015 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
He voted on vivax both days. IDK. Maybe I'm wrong and he just late-votes on his partner when there's no pressure on him, but there's no point of ritoky bussing vivax when vivax is an infinitely better player than him. There's no way ritoky is planning on winning the game as scum. Plus, if superbia is scum, I don't think he's with vivax

this logic is terrible, because ritoky has this much thread-pull:

so unless Vivax is in massive danger of getting lynched (which, in the end, he wasn't) then it's an extremely easy vote to make.

the wifom is strong
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 16:17 GMT
#5194
On January 07 2015 01:13 Vivax wrote:
Oh wait I caught iamp in smurf mini with a tone read.Nevermind, it's been a while

pretty sure you caught him because he applied reasoning to one person and totally neglected to apply it to another
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 17:00 GMT
#5208
On January 07 2015 01:53 IAmRobik wrote:
The amount of people deflecting off of you is absurd though. Like I can't imagine a world where you are town and NOBODY WANTS TO LYNCH YOU. HOW IS THAT FUCKING POSSIBLE. If you were town, lynching you should be like the easiest thing in the world. You know why it's hard? BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING SCUM

this is an atrocious argument yet at the same time kinda compelling.

still feel ritoky is a safer bet for mafia though :/
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 17:00 GMT
#5209
On January 07 2015 01:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 01:53 IAmRobik wrote:
The amount of people deflecting off of you is absurd though. Like I can't imagine a world where you are town and NOBODY WANTS TO LYNCH YOU. HOW IS THAT FUCKING POSSIBLE. If you were town, lynching you should be like the easiest thing in the world. You know why it's hard? BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING SCUM


Show nested quote +
If you were town, lynching you should be like the easiest thing in the world


But I am town and it isn't the easiest thing in the world. Why? Cause I play like town.

Don't base your arguments on how hard or easy I am to lynch. Base em on how I play.

pretty sure that wouldn't help :p
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 18:02 GMT
#5219
On January 07 2015 02:57 IAmRobik wrote:
Like, at some point mafia is gonna have to claim/cc cop

i'm not the only one who's been wondering about that then
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 21:14 GMT
#5278
On January 07 2015 03:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 03:44 Damdred wrote:
Mafia do all sorts of thing that don't make sense, basing a read on when someone town reads you and insta swiches can be done as mafia it can be done as town that's not alignment indicative at all.

Super and Ritoky like to bus, look at carol for ritoky bussing HF early and often and look at ffl2 for super bussing when there was still hope.

Plenty of people can look really towny d1 if I did it I would get lynched basically. I think if you take away the chy spam fest he has a medium d1 but thats just me.

You're saying ritoky bussed early and often. The poitn is that he's not bussing hard enough to get credit for it though!

you're making the thinking error of believing mafia play/do things optimally
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 21:20 GMT
#5280
On January 07 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also, outstanding questions:
Marv: Do you feel that even after Palmar called you scum for 100% he's still scared to lynch you? Seems pretty clear to me.
Kelsier: In your Lazer case you mention him (Lazer) waffling on Vivax a lot. Do you think he's a better lynch than Vivax?
Why do you still think Marv is scum?

Also to everyone: Opinions on a Superbia lynch please.

this is obviously an exceptionally stupid question. congratulations
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 21:28 GMT
#5283
ritoky everything you post is so god-damn dry
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 21:31 GMT
#5287
why would you particularly question an uncounterclaimed cop?
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 21:31 GMT
#5289
good. i thought he voted once and i didn't want to feel stupid.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 21:38 GMT
#5294
On January 07 2015 06:34 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
why would you particularly question an uncounterclaimed cop?


to assess the validity of his claim, then in a game with a framer and multiple millers, to being assessing the validity/coloring of his checks.

why would you blindly accept a claim?

there is no assessing, it's an open setup with 1 cop.

mafia don't claim cop randomly for no reason when they are under 0 threat of being lynched. it's very simple..

why *wouldn't* you accept the claim at face value?
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 21:40 GMT
#5296
On January 07 2015 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv,

+ Show Spoiler +
Are you trying to get him to say the words "because i'm the cop" so that you can cc him?

Robik,

+ Show Spoiler +
I really like your hair today

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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#5323
On January 07 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, as I know who the cop really is, I'd love to lynch SL.
Cop is useless with the millers that are in the game anyway. A lot of plain VTs already died

so stupid.

are you mafia or a baddie, GB?

you can tell auntie marv.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 23:40 GMT
#5327
On January 07 2015 08:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
On January 07 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, as I know who the cop really is, I'd love to lynch SL.
Cop is useless with the millers that are in the game anyway. A lot of plain VTs already died

so stupid.

are you mafia or a baddie, GB?

you can tell auntie marv.


Cuntie marv, I'm town and not baddie. I'm just too deep. Rolling with Adele

you are a baddie if you're pushing sl. it's silly. at best.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 23:45 GMT
#5330
On January 07 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
On January 07 2015 08:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 07 2015 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
On January 07 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, as I know who the cop really is, I'd love to lynch SL.
Cop is useless with the millers that are in the game anyway. A lot of plain VTs already died

so stupid.

are you mafia or a baddie, GB?

you can tell auntie marv.


Cuntie marv, I'm town and not baddie. I'm just too deep. Rolling with Adele

you are a baddie if you're pushing sl. it's silly. at best.


Give me one reason why SL is town.

i've stated it numerous times, and since you've been reading the thread too.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 23:52 GMT
#5335
i'm surrounded by idiots. how am i supposed to determine alignments when so many people push obviously bad things?
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 23:54 GMT
#5338
that doesn't even make sense GB.

i'm not surprised.
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 23:56 GMT
#5339
On January 07 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
Im sorry to put you through this marv. I never get universally town read but I never get lynched its not fun

this isn't your fault.

well apart from the fact claiming cop like a noob. but people's read on you isn't your fault.

like, it makes sense to me that mafia might want to cast doubt on you, but they should be too afraid to do so because town should be realising there's no way you make that play as mafia. but there are so many people attacking you for it, including at least one i heavily townread, that i can't take terrible accusations to mean mafia. it's very annoying
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 23:57 GMT
#5341
townies make weird and terrible claims constantly

mafia don't unless they're in actual danger of getting lynched
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 06 2015 23:59 GMT
#5343
we should really just lynch ritoky.

essentially what he did was vote sl and throw shit on him for the cop claim when he made virtually the exact same play, as town, in a previous game.

does not compute
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marvellosity
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January 06 2015 23:59 GMT
#5345
On January 07 2015 08:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
townies make weird and terrible claims constantly

mafia don't unless they're in actual danger of getting lynched

Yhea but this wasn't a terrible claim. For scum that is.

yes it was. you blithering idiot.
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 00:00 GMT
#5346
1 for 1 is not a good trade

what is wrong with you?
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 00:05 GMT
#5350
ok. this is too painful to read. i'm going to go lick a window or something to improve my mental state
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 07 2015 00:06 GMT
#5354
you're too fucking stupid or too fucking scum to be able to be enlightened.

sorry bro.
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 00:07 GMT
#5355
anyway i promised myself i wouldn't rage this game so this can wait till another time
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 07 2015 11:10 GMT
#5407
I'm going to form an unholy alliance with Vivax and lynch ritoky. What can possibly go wrong?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 07 2015 11:12 GMT
#5408
Also it's the middle of the week and Palmar is still barely bothering to play.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 07 2015 11:13 GMT
#5409
if Palmar isn't mafia after all, I'm having mahoosive difficulties filling up a 5 man team.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 07 2015 12:19 GMT
#5411
I thought Super's EoD d2 was a bit better than ritoky's.

Then again I think they're both very likely mafia.

But ritoky called me mafia so him dying first would be best.
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 12:28 GMT
#5414
I didn't say i liked it, i said it was a bit better than ritoky's :p
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January 07 2015 12:46 GMT
#5416
On January 07 2015 21:38 KelsierSC wrote:
can you make a mafia team marv?

ish. If i take ritoky, superbia, palmar, then some ppl out of vivax, gb, lm and maybe just a smattering of damdred or robik

but just one day at a time
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January 07 2015 14:45 GMT
#5428
On January 07 2015 23:41 sicklucker wrote:
No I think your town but ive kind of ignored you this game. Usually I focus my game on you because I feel I read you good but this game your town siding while almost half the game is mafia siding

pretty close to my read on damdred too. he felt kinda defensive early but he made some posts that felt pretty townie after. not sure how i'd expect a mafia to react to your apparent check on him, but it wasn't how damdred dealt with it anyway
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January 07 2015 14:52 GMT
#5432
when did you decide ritoky was likely mafia rather than terrible town?
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January 07 2015 14:53 GMT
#5434
ah. yes, that does make sense.
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January 07 2015 14:56 GMT
#5436
I don't really. The list I gave Kels was essentially my order of confidence from most mafia going towards town, with the people I'm sure are town lopped off for obvious reasons

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January 07 2015 14:59 GMT
#5438
On January 07 2015 23:58 sicklucker wrote:
Lol me and artanis have 100% the same list. Its also jats list. Is this game really that easy? I think one of robik or marv could be playing a high level mafia game but we can worry about that in final 3. This game is in the bag.

We have 7 lynches we kill his 4 reds first. Then probably his 3 whites but alot can change.

this is always the problem, there's usually an outlier somewhere, somehow. but you can normally only pick up on them later.
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January 07 2015 15:05 GMT
#5444
this is some epic cart before the horse stuff going on
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January 07 2015 15:08 GMT
#5448
On January 08 2015 00:07 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 00:05 marvellosity wrote:
this is some epic cart before the horse stuff going on


This games so boring mafia sucks dick for the most part. I just want this game to go 72 hours into the future

highly contradictory

#lynch
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 15:15 GMT
#5454
On January 08 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
I mean im fairly sure 4/5 mafia played bad while 1/5 is probably playing good and will carry. Marv you mad I called you bad?

you did? wat
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January 07 2015 16:14 GMT
#5466
gl DrH.
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January 07 2015 16:36 GMT
#5488
On January 08 2015 01:23 Vivax wrote:
MARV IM PUSHING YOUR SCUMREAD AND GB IS THICK LIKE RONALD MCDONALD AND YOU DONT LEND ME A HAND.

HOW CAN I EVER BELIEVE YOU'RE TOWN.

this may come as a shock to you, but i'm at work and i refresh periodically, but not every 30s. If that makes me mafia, I'm mafia.

you're right though, it's fake as shit and I commented as such d1. His massive reads list on d1 had a bunch of inconsistencies pointed out by me and others.

his read on me is full of crap.

he doesn't give a fuck about the game. like, read his filter and find any point where you think "this guy wants town to win this game". betchu can't

the thing is right, there exists the possibility where town-ritoky makes those retardo points against DrH at the beginning. The problem with that is that it's totally incongruent to what follows, which *should* eliminate that possibility
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January 07 2015 16:41 GMT
#5489
i still have no idea if sl is cop
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January 07 2015 16:44 GMT
#5492
On January 08 2015 01:43 IAmRobik wrote:
are we in mylo now?

no
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January 07 2015 16:44 GMT
#5494
On January 08 2015 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
The world where sicklucker is the real cop:

Doctor can't heal the same player on consecutive nights.
SL claims day1
Gets healed night1, so that's why mafia shoots Eden and Koshi
SL can't be healed night2, gets shot.

The world where sicklucker isn't the real cop:
He stays alive after night2

The end.

he claimed d2
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January 07 2015 16:46 GMT
#5496
On January 08 2015 01:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
On January 08 2015 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
The world where sicklucker is the real cop:

Doctor can't heal the same player on consecutive nights.
SL claims day1
Gets healed night1, so that's why mafia shoots Eden and Koshi
SL can't be healed night2, gets shot.

The world where sicklucker isn't the real cop:
He stays alive after night2

The end.

he claimed d2


Oh, is that so?
Am I so confused with this game?

-.-

yeah, i think superbia (iirc) questioned him on his readchange of Lazer, and he said it was because he checked him green, which started the whole fiasco off
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January 07 2015 16:50 GMT
#5498
On January 08 2015 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
I see

Well, this changes things.

Sigh.

Ok, I'm gonna sheep marv to see what happens

sheeping marv best plan.
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January 07 2015 16:52 GMT
#5500
On January 08 2015 01:51 GlowingBear wrote:
No, wait.

He checked damdred first right?

I have no idea. he should probably just come clean at this stage
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January 07 2015 16:57 GMT
#5503
On January 08 2015 01:55 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
I don't give two shits about what he claimed. He smelled like scum ever since his 7 reads bullshit and smells even more since he posts stuff that makes no sense at all.


We cant lynch who vivax says because with only 1 mislynch left we lose regardless if hes right or wrong.

We cant lynch who vivax says because with only 1 mislynch left we lose regardless if hes right or wrong.

We cant lynch who vivax says because with only 1 mislynch left we lose regardless if hes right or wrong.

We cant lynch who vivax says because with only 1 mislynch left we lose regardless if hes right or wrong.


Why are you putting scum on that really bad joke how desperate are you?

What I say is true. I do math for a living tho so I dont expect everyone to understand. In the event we have 6 kills and 5 mafia the only chance we have is to sheep players who think they have the game solves. Not scummy guys who want to lynch maybe this guy and maybe him, but then have no idea what to do.

Artanis and jat are/were the top town in this game. Everyone sheep them its are only hope

You're forgetting Obi wan kenobi
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January 07 2015 17:01 GMT
#5508
what?
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January 07 2015 17:07 GMT
#5511
told me what?
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January 07 2015 17:08 GMT
#5513
oh. ok?
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January 07 2015 17:08 GMT
#5515
well I'm glad we sorted that out GB :p
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January 07 2015 17:13 GMT
#5517
no
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January 07 2015 19:02 GMT
#5589
On January 08 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
First guy to wonder what the scum KP even is.

no, it's happened before in the thread, and I answered whoever it was at the time. Spanned several posts.
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 19:02 GMT
#5591
On January 08 2015 03:49 sicklucker wrote:
Hes playing too bad too be mafia. But vivax isint this bad is he?

this. this is the problem.
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 19:07 GMT
#5593
On December 31 2014 09:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote:
For 20 you could remove the vigi for town, and give scum a 2 shot vigi and play 15 vs 5.

15 vs 5
14 vs 5 ml
12 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
11 vs 5 ml
9 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
8 vs 5 ml
7 vs 5
6 vs 5 ml
5 vs 5 at the end of N4 without saves.

This means doc needs to save twice to give town a 5th ml.
This means scum got 2 kills for the first 2 nights to disrupt towncircles.
1 docsave means that town can try on D5 to lynch a scum. so they go in a lylo situation. With no saves they don't get that try.

this seems more likely. I don't want to wait for another guy, and this simplifies things.

It means scum has to really protect that 2 shot vig or play well,

I like encouraging decisions like this.

Kudos koshi you go in the OP

And also, thanks Artanis and jat you will also get mention.

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January 07 2015 19:26 GMT
#5599
On January 08 2015 04:25 IAmRobik wrote:
you're still fucking scum. jesus. asdofnsdfgnosdfn;aisodfn

##vote: gb

all these arguments can wait.

vote ritoky with me.
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January 07 2015 19:32 GMT
#5602
it's been #teammarv all along.

essentially the reason you're not on ritoky is because he's not here saying terrible things making you want to lynch him, which is why we should lynch him
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January 07 2015 19:35 GMT
#5604
then you're a baddie.
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January 07 2015 19:35 GMT
#5605
4 other people still leaves him as #5 :p
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January 07 2015 19:35 GMT
#5606
free blowjob for your cooperation
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January 07 2015 19:44 GMT
#5611
ritoky, superbia, (palmar)

not voting outside these names today.
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January 07 2015 19:56 GMT
#5624
On January 08 2015 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 04:02 marvellosity wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:49 sicklucker wrote:
Hes playing too bad too be mafia. But vivax isint this bad is he?

this. this is the problem.


so mav i only played with vivax once. Have you played with him more? is he obvious scum?

so 2 years ago we played a mayoral game, and i was mayor, and i lynched mafia day 1

vivax was cop and got a redcheck on someone

and proceeded to push me for most of day 2, much to everyone's amazement (instead of pushing his red check)

so that's what he's capable of as town. i rather think he's improved since then and isn't as nuts. he *should* be mafia here because he pushes wrong things way too often, but... ya know. it's possible he plays like this as town?

i don't think ritoky ever plays like this as town.
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 21:38 GMT
#5747
holy shit.

I know you all want me to be but I am *not* the cop.

##Unvote

If ritoky is mafia and you are the cop, claim now. Your role is not worth a guaranteed mafia at this point.

I'm still a bit behind
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marvellosity
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January 07 2015 21:41 GMT
#5753
On January 08 2015 06:40 IAmRobik wrote:
God you're such a piece of shit marv

thanks darling.
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January 07 2015 21:44 GMT
#5761
On January 08 2015 06:24 IAmRobik wrote:
There's like a 0% chance that SL would ever be framed because no cop is going to check someone cc'ing their role because a) that person might get night killed b) if that person is mafia, they're going to hold that claim and the real cop is going to get that person lynched.

Oh ritoky. Valiant effort my friend.

Now tell me this....did you green check 2 townies or did you go 1 and 1

I had to read this 3 times but this seems to be totally correct actually
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January 07 2015 21:50 GMT
#5769
fuck i'm terrified that he's the cop but i can't see how he can be the cop
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January 07 2015 21:55 GMT
#5784
On January 08 2015 06:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Exactly, Palmar. That contradiction reveals ritoky isn't the cop either.

Yes, but I'm not certain enough to kill him while unccd.

I only see 2 options:

a) kill someone random (hint: Damdred)
b) get a cc

Like if he is mafia then massive kudos to whatever townies actually have the balls to just call him out on it. But I have seen so much terrible cop play over the years that this could very well be a true claim.

i have to agree with this. i dunno if it's because we're the old hands in the game but we seem to be thinking the same

a cc would not only net us mafia (unless it's superbia at which point i start hitting babies) but also brings a massive amount of clarity
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January 07 2015 21:56 GMT
#5788
On January 08 2015 06:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv, do you read my posts?

i literally quoted one saying i agreed with it.

the problem is on the slim,slim chance he's actually the cop, lynching him would basically be the end of the game right there.
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January 07 2015 21:57 GMT
#5791
i dunno what RS means
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January 07 2015 21:59 GMT
#5795
On January 08 2015 06:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:55 marvellosity wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:53 Palmar wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Exactly, Palmar. That contradiction reveals ritoky isn't the cop either.

Yes, but I'm not certain enough to kill him while unccd.

I only see 2 options:

a) kill someone random (hint: Damdred)
b) get a cc

Like if he is mafia then massive kudos to whatever townies actually have the balls to just call him out on it. But I have seen so much terrible cop play over the years that this could very well be a true claim.

i have to agree with this. i dunno if it's because we're the old hands in the game but we seem to be thinking the same

a cc would not only net us mafia (unless it's superbia at which point i start hitting babies) but also brings a massive amount of clarity

Cool so we're on the same kill-Damdred page?

nope. your case is kinda ok but i don't think the difference is as stark as you make out. i'll lynch superbia if i can't make myself lynch an un-cc cop
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January 07 2015 22:00 GMT
#5801
On January 08 2015 06:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Jesus christ. I'm the cop. COol? Can we lynch him now?

oh.

this is a hard claim?

you're going to shout at me post-game aren't you?
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January 07 2015 22:01 GMT
#5802
fuck
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January 07 2015 22:03 GMT
#5808
On January 08 2015 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Marv isn't town
Marv
isn't
town

Where's chez and Artanis?

you're an idiot.
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January 07 2015 22:04 GMT
#5812
##Vote: ritoky

i'm really bad at sneakiness Robik.

seems really obvious in hindsight
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January 07 2015 22:10 GMT
#5826
On January 08 2015 07:09 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh yeah? Why is my claim trash. Please point to any discrepancies in my claim. Go ahead big boy. Here's your time to shine as 'the real cop"


1) i am the cop

2) you claim to be cop, but you had 0 reaction to someone HARD CLAIMING YOUR ROLE last day phase while being here and actively posting the entire time.

3) you have given no indications of being cop in your entire filter.

4) you sat here calling for others to cc and saying you would make up a cc if no one cc'd.

5) you checked a dead person n1 who was universally town read i believe even by you.

6) lol @ your checks. you call my checks bad and not solving the game, yours are on another level. they also don't mesh with your reads in the slightest. you would have checked into the likes of geript/marv/palmar/jat and such because you were heavily invested in solving those discussions and a check would have gone a long way.

you need to move the fuck on; you're not the cop now drop it.

lol but you're not calling him mafia
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January 07 2015 22:10 GMT
#5830
On January 08 2015 07:10 KelsierSC wrote:
i'd actually rather not lynch ritoky today

all that we get today is everyone votes on rit and we get no info.

...
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January 07 2015 22:11 GMT
#5833
mind = blown
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January 07 2015 22:12 GMT
#5837
we don't hedge and we don't lynch for voting information, we kill the mafia in front of us.
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January 07 2015 22:14 GMT
#5844
both "cops" want to lynch vivax. cute.
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January 07 2015 22:15 GMT
#5847
On January 08 2015 07:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 08 2015 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
we don't hedge and we don't lynch for voting information, we kill the mafia in front of us.

BUT THEN I DIE AND I DON'T HAVE THE FAITH THAT YOU FREAKING IDIOTS WILL LYNCH VIVAX!

If you are the cop you are 101% getting shot tonight...

read, and try again.
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January 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#5859
yeah Superbia is supremely likely to be mafia for his original vote on ritoky.
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January 07 2015 22:37 GMT
#5908
On January 08 2015 07:36 IAmRobik wrote:
I mean. I guess marv is good enough to bait his partner into claiming today by pushing ritoky, forcing out the cop claim and then laughing to the bank

awww. I'm touched :>
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January 07 2015 22:37 GMT
#5910
now i want ritoky to be vanilla
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January 07 2015 22:43 GMT
#5918
apart from anything else, i totally believe what robik was trying to pull off with me.
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January 07 2015 23:28 GMT
#5974
when I've just done housework at annoying o'clock, the last thing i want to see is robik fucking around.

stop it robik. i just wanna kill mafia without these stupid games.
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January 07 2015 23:32 GMT
#5979
On January 08 2015 08:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So in the 25 pages I missed is there any reason not to vote for Superbia? If so I'm going to be lazy and read them later.

you have to be kidding me
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January 08 2015 10:19 GMT
#6215
huzzah, nice hit. Although kinda anti-climactic after the day's events :x

hai DP!
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January 08 2015 10:20 GMT
#6217
On January 08 2015 18:12 KelsierSC wrote:
LM who do you think the cop is?

what's the use in asking this?

right, i best go read what i missed
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January 08 2015 10:24 GMT
#6219
judging by the rest of that post, no ^^
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January 08 2015 10:26 GMT
#6222
o.o
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January 08 2015 10:27 GMT
#6225
if you're town, I know you'll do a good enough job defending yourself not to get lynched.

lynch should only be in one place tomorrow anyways, and that's not you
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January 08 2015 10:28 GMT
#6226
On January 08 2015 19:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2015 07:18 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 07:16 Palmar wrote:
yo.

What are we doing?


Writing bash scripts.

What you are doing is a better question. Get onto geript and off my ass.

If you can explain in less than 300 words why geript is mafia.


This looks worse for Vivax now. I don't think he actually knew why we were pushing geript at the time.

he quite enjoyed pushing me even though he had no idea what your case was as well. although i kinda think that's more personal than alignment indicative... :/
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January 08 2015 10:36 GMT
#6232
Proof, ish

right now I'm enjoying ritoky's return to the thread on p303. he's admirably persistent
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January 08 2015 10:36 GMT
#6234
one sec DP
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January 08 2015 10:37 GMT
#6237
it is absurd replacing someone into a 300 page game, yes, but let's deal with what we have.

DP: you really need to read from the bottom of p284 for about 15-20 pages (i know, but it's a quick read) if you read almost nothing else this game for a while
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 10:38 GMT
#6238
On January 08 2015 19:36 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
On January 08 2015 18:12 KelsierSC wrote:
LM who do you think the cop is?

what's the use in asking this?

right, i best go read what i missed


because I am trying to figure out who the mafia is wtf


there are about seven thousand million, five hundred thousand and forty nine better ways of finding mafia than cop-hunting in the night phase. Just sayin.
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 10:44 GMT
#6242
ah.

er... carry on then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 10:45 GMT
#6245
On January 08 2015 19:44 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm going to reluctantly read what marv suggested and then once I'm done if Palmar is still not talking to me he is basically claiming scum.

See ya chaps.

it's pretty fun tbf :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 10:56 GMT
#6252
On January 08 2015 11:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Superbia is town
You're going to mislynch him

On January 08 2015 13:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 13:03 IAmRobik wrote:
GO HOME GB, YOU'RE DRUNK


M going home

My reads are better when I'm drunk

Lunch marv

quality entertainment
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:06 GMT
#6259
DP:

On January 08 2015 10:22 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 10:17 ritoky wrote:
better question is why let himself play

Because I'm the greatest mafia player on this fucking planet. Maybe if you were on my level, you would have thought about your fake checks before you gave them. Specifically that SL check. That was terrible. No cop would EVER check SL there. Like, there's literally no reason to check SL there because if he keeps his claim, you counter as cop and get him lynched because his claim already sucks. If he's town, mafia might actually believe him and kill him, so you'd have a wasted check. So like, next time you decide to fake cop, you should plan stuff like this out.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:10 GMT
#6264
On January 08 2015 20:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 19:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 08 2015 19:49 Palmar wrote:
On January 08 2015 19:36 DarthPunk wrote:
The following posts both look garbage to me. Very wishy-washy, and I can't seem to empathize with the conclusions he does draw.

Palmar, admits himself that he has a strong day one but these posts feel fake and obligatory.

On December 31 2014 20:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, as I'm probably going to be mostly unavailable today (it's new year's eve... why did we even start?). I'll just throw out very much not curated thoughts I had while reading up to like page... 16?

I'll catch up with the rest later.

geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm.

Eden came off strong and he said something I thought was really dumb.

DrH is probably town, and he had a post that made me feel good about that read.

Damdred is probably town too. He too has a post I can't remember that made me think "oh that looks like a townie".

Koshi overreacting on this page (21) to DrH's dismissal of koshi's defense was kinda mafia. Idk though.

I should probably just sheep marv and lynch him if he's wrong. That's always a fine strategy.

Remember, these reads I'm just throwing out literally from memory of having read like 4-6 pages this morning. Don't pretend these are some concrete observations.


Then he tunnels geript for a bit and does nothing I really like.

This post seems more likely to come from scum at the start of the game also, just because scum are more likely to feel demotivated early in my experience, conversely a townie who believes he has caught scum is much less likely to feel demotivated.

On January 02 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
I'm really demotivated to even play now. Probably gonna just afk through the night and see if I turn up dead or not.

If I am alive I might just park my vote on Robik out of spite and never change it for playing terribly.



You have to read in context.

I wanted to lynch geript. I got a wagon going on geript, when I went to sleep geript was the leading candidate for a lynch. However when I woke up town had voteswitched on to batsnacks (and not Vivax as I had suggested) and killed him. This led me to being extremely frustrated as I didn't even know people were considering batsnacks as a lynch target and I had read batsnacks as town.


Cool, so why were your first large posts on day one such wishy-washy inconclusive garbage when you are known for having strong day ones and I personally think you are an excellent player?

What benefit did you wish to gain by creating that list post? why did you call DrH probably town?




They're not inconclusive garbage. In fact, me hedging half my calls with wording like "very slight leaning town read" is probably the biggest tell that I am town this game.

However I also wouldn't expect just about anyone to understand that.

It's basically me trying not to be wrong, or if I am wrong have something to point to "hey look, I told you I just called him town for this small thing, not my fault he didn't end up being town". If I was mafia I'd be far more confident in my reads, or so I think, at least.

And the list post was basically me trying to do useful stuff. I decided to punch in what I was thinking at that point in the game.

and I already explained why I called DrH town.

this post is reasonable. I can't remember who it was but there was a game recently where someone made this long, terrible case on me, quoting a bunch of posts where i'm umming and ahhing.
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:11 GMT
#6267
On January 01 2015 23:18 Superbia wrote:
Pretty sure Ritoky claimed mafia with that big post. I'll read the rest of the thread later to find the other 4.

##Vote: Ritoky

this is like certainly a "I don't want to do anything, i'm going to park my vote on my scumbuddy" post. Pretty sure people have said this before.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:14 GMT
#6271
no-one can read a 300p thread. that's masochistic.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:15 GMT
#6272
well on that note, maybe if i replaced in i would read it
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:17 GMT
#6278
On January 08 2015 20:16 Vivax wrote:
Marv just claimed he likes to get whipped from people who wear gimp suits.

na, not into the outfits :p
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:20 GMT
#6280
On January 08 2015 20:17 KelsierSC wrote:
basically LM can't give a read on who is cop because it totally fucks him.

If he says Robik is cop then he can't explain why he aligns with ritoky and pushed on Dam and he has to read robik as cop tomorrow

if he says Ritoky is cop he can't explain why he was so fine with a ritoky lynch yesterday and said he would be fine with a ritoky lynch

this is really interesting, i'll go corroborate myself at lunch or something.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:21 GMT
#6282
= I'll go read Lazer's filter myself and line it up with what you said
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:27 GMT
#6286
told you it was fun, DP :p
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:53 GMT
#6301
On January 08 2015 20:51 DarthPunk wrote:
Wait what? We didn't lynch one of the cops?


ikr. pretty unsatisfying.
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:53 GMT
#6303
On January 08 2015 20:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyone else think the (Limited) interactions between Kelsier and Superbia look fake?

Kelsier has looked preeetty town to me. One of the issues is that Superbia's interactions with everything look fake.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 11:54 GMT
#6304
On January 08 2015 20:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
On January 08 2015 20:51 DarthPunk wrote:
Wait what? We didn't lynch one of the cops?


ikr. pretty unsatisfying.


Which cop would you prefer to lynch marv?


where my vote was. ritoky. if he is town i will eat BH's hat.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 13:10 GMT
#6322
On January 08 2015 22:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 21:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 08 2015 21:44 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2015 21:26 GlowingBear wrote:
DP is town probably dying tonight lol


What's your read on marv.


Town after today.


Then why don't you think he's dying tonight, or why don't you wonder why he's alive after 2 nights.

I'm kinda flattered with your obsession with me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 13:51 GMT
#6329
On January 08 2015 22:43 IAmRobik wrote:
Vivax, I'll explain why you look better later, but it had to do with reading superbias filter

I skimmed super's filter earlier and i don't think i got that out of it, interested to hear what you found
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 13:52 GMT
#6330
mafia are retards if they think they can WIFOM a lynch in me, i'm on a 40 game unlynched streak as town.

i mean... mafia should definitely try that.
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 14:41 GMT
#6333
am I the only one who expects mafia to shoot for the cop? heh
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 14:47 GMT
#6336
in a total vacuum i find it kinda hard to tell from those posts.

i think the best evidence for damdred being town from those posts is how ritoky only attacks Damdred (and really runs with it) once someone else had brought it up - very conveniently
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 14:51 GMT
#6340
On January 08 2015 23:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:04 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:57 Superbia wrote:
I don't know about either wagon at the moment.


explain why


I found geript to be scummy early on but now I just don't know anymore. He has said some decent things and his reads feel somewhat okay-ish. I also don't feel like the mafia-meta I had on him also is that relevant after checking one of his town-games. I also feel like there's literally no one supporting him, which makes it hard to see him as scum. I don't think scum busses this hard this fast. Especially on a vet. Literally feels like he's alone in the game.

Vivax I don't even have a read on. I checked his filter early on but kind of lost interest after seeing nothing standing out. I have read Koshi's case on him but meh.


ok if you had to pick one?


Vivax then, if I had to pick out of the two. He gave a read on me early on which sounded incredibly null and like he was ready to keep me available as a lynch option if necessary. Only based on that.

I think this was the post that made me reconsider on vivax

Plus, ritoky and super kinda sorta genuinely seem to want to lynch vivax...including yesterday. If you read ritoky's posts, it seems like he genuinely wouldn't mind lynching vivax. He obviously seems really reticent to do that w/r/t superbia

yeah i saw that post but i didn't have the same reaction. Super's filter is actually remarkably void of Vivax discussion for a long time, and that post there is pretty non-committal
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 08 2015 14:52 GMT
#6341
On January 08 2015 23:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 12:58 ritoky wrote:
on phone, only have like 5 minutes. apparently SL claimed cop since i last was able to read the thread. guess he is not the lynch today, evaluate claim later.

want to vote vivax, marv, maybe damdred. so for now: ##vote: vivax

This one.

any idea what the votecount looked like at the time?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 14:57 GMT
#6343
On January 08 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
Did I miss something in the game that proved ritoky to be not-cop? I'm still wokring under the assumption that he is. Then again I didn't read much today cause I will probably just sheep Artanis tomorrow.

i'm good with you sheeping artanis for now
On January 08 2015 10:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Ritoky is pretty much confirmed mafia for stressing your 'great idea - rescinding claim' as if it were serious. There's no way he actually buys that.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:25 GMT
#6363
this might be my favourite passage of the game yet
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:27 GMT
#6366
oh, I think Vivax might actually be on to something.

Got any more Vivax?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:29 GMT
#6369
time for Robik to start posting baby seals tbh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 08 2015 15:31 GMT
#6372
well that's it, confirmed mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:36 GMT
#6379
gross.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:42 GMT
#6390
On January 09 2015 00:41 Vivax wrote:
I posted a votecount, you even said "oh look at how close the votes are".

Why am I even here. This case is closed.

This has been talked about long before and disproved.

why the fuck are you bringing it up again?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:44 GMT
#6394
good filter filler tbf :p
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:49 GMT
#6402
On January 06 2015 07:10 marvellosity wrote:
actually that's right, i went back to check, the votecount just before he said that was geript - vivax 5-5

then according to eye-witnesses robik was spotted in a dingy bar called Video Mafia and he didn't post from that point till basically deadline, in between jat switched to super etc

this was literally the culmination of the discussion that went on for 100 pages, no idea how you missed it vivax.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:54 GMT
#6406
you missed my vote in there somewhere
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:56 GMT
#6408
maybe. i want to see if Palmar can actually follow through on his promises for a good defence.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 15:57 GMT
#6410
that's a relief to know
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 16:01 GMT
#6415
On January 09 2015 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
marv, which players here take VE's claim seriously? I know I was certain he was VT and trying to take a role bullet in that spot, but apparently i was wrong.

It would have been a SICK spot for it too

kinda a tough question to ask, given VE and I have a kind of "special relationship"

I was reasonably sure it made VE medic, because he claimed it out of anger and frustration while calling you a cunt. So it was a "fuck you" rather than a play (I've seen him do similar before).

I guess I'd expect anyone who's played with VE quite a bit to think the same way? Can't really tell with the newer players.
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 16:01 GMT
#6416
On January 09 2015 00:58 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
that's a relief to know

Hold on. Let me double check my scum QT to make sure you're not in there

please let me know if i posted there
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 16:04 GMT
#6422
On January 09 2015 01:03 Vivax wrote:
Marv what did you mean when you said I was onto something.
Since that notion seems to have disappeared completely.

sarcasm. sorry bro
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 16:06 GMT
#6423
i can see why you don't do tone reads :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 22:20 GMT
#6546
ritoky, how come I've slipped down your rankings?

I am disappoint
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 22:23 GMT
#6552
On January 09 2015 07:23 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 07:20 marvellosity wrote:
ritoky, how come I've slipped down your rankings?

I am disappoint

Huh? Aren't you #2 or #3? behind my green check DrH and maybe behind sicklucker too? like you're above artanis and kelsier, both of whom i TR.

Robik, I think somehow you just failed to read the 10 words I posted or something
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 22:25 GMT
#6555
On January 09 2015 07:24 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh. I just figured you wouldn't talk to confirmed scum anymore.

I'm not exactly sure if people who aren't you need convincing, or if all the people who aren't convinced are just mafia.
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 22:27 GMT
#6560
I mean, for the uneducated, it's very easy (apart from some of the various compelling points made, like the retardedness of checking a rival cop claim)

you open Robik's filter and ask yourself "is this guy trying to figure out the game in some way?"

then you do the same with ritoky's filter

???

profit
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 08 2015 22:28 GMT
#6562
only if you're a deaf, blind, meerkat

who wasn't thinking straight
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 08 2015 22:30 GMT
#6564
also Robik is blatantly town for how he's been treating Vivax in the last 24-48 hours or so, which is identical to what i've been thinking.

which is as follows:

"Vivax must be mafia with how he's posting. He literally must be."

"but somehow he could be town?????????"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 08 2015 22:36 GMT
#6574
On January 09 2015 07:32 IAmRobik wrote:
I just don't understand what he's doing this game. He's blatantly scum siding and he's not even trying to hide it. It's like he is planning on using the "i would never scum-side so hard as scum" card....but like, he knows it's going to get him lynched when i die.

this *100
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 08 2015 22:41 GMT
#6580
On January 09 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
And Marv is SO scum for not agreeing with this.

no, i'm just not the worst player in history

nice try though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 08 2015 22:43 GMT
#6583
sl is still pretty clearly town for that claim

why any rational townie would go ham attacking it ... no senso bueno

+ Show Spoiler +
spanish boss-mode engaged
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 22:48 GMT
#6588
btw this is why you donkeys shouldn't have lynched superbia

when i said we lynch ritoky for clarity this is exactly what i meant
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marvellosity
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January 08 2015 22:51 GMT
#6594
On January 09 2015 07:51 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm going down tonight boys. Too many people believe me

that's why i'm right
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 08 2015 22:54 GMT
#6598
On January 09 2015 07:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
On January 09 2015 07:51 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm going down tonight boys. Too many people believe me

that's why i'm right

nah...we still got to lynch a mafia last day phase and you get to lynch ritoky for free as well...but like. can you do me a HUGE favor and lynch vivax first. Just so that if he's town I can have him in Obs QT sooner so that I can make fun of him.

that's a compelling safety net
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marvellosity
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January 09 2015 01:02 GMT
#6619
On January 09 2015 09:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Why isn't marv raging at all the people who are calling him mafia? If I call him mafia the world ends and the thread turns to shit.


zen mode. mostly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 09 2015 01:04 GMT
#6621
nope not yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 09 2015 01:07 GMT
#6623
not really feeling the time pressure right now.

you can shout at me post-game if i weirdly die tonight
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marvellosity
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January 09 2015 01:14 GMT
#6628
I don't always actually. Like the game you retardo pushed me as cop, Vivax. I decided that game it would be one of my calm games and it was.

i'm actually posting at way above my target rate for posts this game. I need to play without being townread for just posts and/or rage, because it ruins my scumgame and it ain't healthy. anyone who knows me/has talked to me recently knows i want to tone down my towngame.
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marvellosity
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January 09 2015 01:15 GMT
#6630
if we want to go meta, my filter is already considerably larger than any of my scumgames and in less cycles. Despite myself.

that's hard meta.
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marvellosity
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January 09 2015 01:18 GMT
#6633
On January 09 2015 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
if we want to go meta, my filter is already considerably larger than any of my scumgames and in less cycles. Despite myself.

that's hard meta.


I know this, I checked it last night. otherwise I would be calling you mafia.

Good boy. You'll also know that I'll just repeat the point ad nauseum if I have to. Always works eventually.
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marvellosity
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January 09 2015 01:23 GMT
#6637
pretty sure i voted mafia on d2 and forced ritoky into his shit-claim day 3, so i'm feeling pretty decent about my play thus far.

you say it's easy to make the argument as scum, but i've played 12 games here and i still fail to manage it as mafia, so i'll keep using it :>
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marvellosity
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January 09 2015 01:28 GMT
#6639
anyhoezls, totally knackered and just popped in before bed. glhf
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 09 2015 10:50 GMT
#6787
RIP Rob.

##Vote: ritoky

he 100% mafia. he die now.

Is Vivax 100%? If the answer isn't "yes" then you shouldn't be voting for him
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 09 2015 11:17 GMT
#6790
sl, I play mafia in an exceptionally simple way.

I don't make plays, I don't fakeclaim. I like clarity.

I vote who has the highest chance of flipping mafia.

I'm going to vote ritoky while ritoky is confirmed mafia. And I don't mean "confirmed" in the way you lazily throw about, I mean he is absolutely mafia and there isn't a world where he isn't. That sort of confirmed.

And I will see his blood run, and lo, it will be good.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 09 2015 11:35 GMT
#6793
On January 09 2015 20:30 sicklucker wrote:
Well Im going to ignore you and get someone important lynched. No one can make the mistake of lynching confirmed mafia later. But they can make mistakes that I can correct today. Gnight

There is approximately 0% chance you will get someone lynched other than ritoky.

Because I say so, and when I'm sure enough to say so, that's what happens.

I like how you play a lot sl, but save your energy on this one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 09 2015 11:39 GMT
#6794
literally the only reason to kill vivax today is he keeps irritating me like a mosquito by calling me mafia. And unfortunately that's not quite good enough a reason

like even if you're 95% on Vivax you should kill ritoky.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 12:18 GMT
#6895
On January 10 2015 10:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't know who are the other mafia. I'm still not over marv. I said he was town at night because I wanted to see if scum would kill him if he was universally townread.

For someone who has being scumreading ritoky for so long, he wasn't one to try to make people to lynch his obvious scum target. Which just looks like someone who is bussing knowing another target will die.

this is pretty much untrue, grats
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 12:20 GMT
#6896
On January 10 2015 10:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 10:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 10 2015 10:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2015 10:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey glowingbear, You know how you said you would sheep the fuck out of me?

Welll.....


I wanna lynch you cause I think you are mafia.

So please. Sheep me.


K

You think I'm wrong?


Not necessarily, I've thought you were scummy for a while though. I guess if you stepped up your play I may change my mind.


I'm extremely uninvolved with this game and I can't really understand why.
I'm not going to do much hardwork. If you think I should be lynched, okay.
But I'm town and you'll be wasting a lynch.

I have some signals that I'm town. I could show you but I don't think that's really my job...

you've stated (i think on more than one occasion) that it's "really obvious" you're town and various other sentiments to that effect. Do tell us.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 12:21 GMT
#6897
judging by further posts you're not going to tell us. ok
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 12:30 GMT
#6898
On January 08 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way if Kelsier isn't really the cop I'll be lynching him tomorrow

what was your thinking behind this post, sweetcheeks?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 12:33 GMT
#6899
God everyone's filter is long. I hate that i can't make lazy activity-based assumptions at this stage.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 12:40 GMT
#6900
An ok argument for being town is GB's defence of Superbia. It's a bit like being on the Titanic after it hit the iceberg and going "oh god no, the ship isn't sinking, everything's fine". It's a weird play for mafia to make

GB, what's your sl read like atm? Read some stuff about him in your filter, didn't see anything recently, might have changed since robik flipped
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 12:48 GMT
#6902
On January 10 2015 21:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
God everyone's filter is long. I hate that i can't make lazy activity-based assumptions at this stage.


And yet, even though he's been dead for a cycle, JAT has more pages than anyone else.

What do you think of GBs theory that ritoky is a framer?

that's why he was such an easy lazy assumption to make :p

GB's theory could be right, but i don't really think mafia puts that much stock in the framer, or at least enough stock to make plays based around it (and possibly provide patterns?). I'd say the absolute best reason to lynch superbia over ritoky from mafia's POV is the ongoing confusion about the cop stuff. Like if Robik hadn't flipped cop, it feels like this day would have been only about the cop claims, and that's valuable time wasted from a mafia PoV
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 19:20 GMT
#6908
yeah i don't think mafia thought that superbia was saveable one way or another tbh. I think they probably just wanted to out the cop.

GB what are you getting at with your last post there? You mean Super would hammer ritoky if ritoky wasn't framer?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 19:39 GMT
#6910
do you think that palmar really thought anyone but ritoky/superbia were getting lynched though?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 19:49 GMT
#6912
i dunno. why not? if Palmar's town then he thinks damdred is the best other wagon.

If he's mafia I don't think it's because of that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 19:58 GMT
#6914
well, what it really shows is a certain disconnect from the game I guess, by not really addressing the superbia lynch very much.

tbh i'm just waiting to see if he lives up to his own promises.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 20:04 GMT
#6916
why wouldn't i be cautious? he said he'd defend himself from the lynch and that's what i'll mostly base my decision on

most of what he's done he could do as either alignment. the most suspicious thing for me is how he launched himself at me, then kinda afked and his 100% push on me was kinda gone when he got back.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 20:06 GMT
#6917
town collectively should push Palmar tomorrow though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 20:13 GMT
#6921
On January 11 2015 05:09 Lazermonkey wrote:
Ow, and I agree with that GB looks bad for defending Superbia the way he did. Just like I look scummy for doing that ;D.

actually that wasn't what i was contending lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 20:14 GMT
#6923
On January 11 2015 05:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 05:04 marvellosity wrote:
why wouldn't i be cautious? he said he'd defend himself from the lynch and that's what i'll mostly base my decision on

most of what he's done he could do as either alignment. the most suspicious thing for me is how he launched himself at me, then kinda afked and his 100% push on me was kinda gone when he got back.


For me it's that he went into serious mode on the day we started lynching scum. I already mentioned this somewhere.
Before D3 it was just his random stuff, D3 I was wondering why he became so pushy instead of keeping on with his weird play.

to what end?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 20:18 GMT
#6926
On January 11 2015 05:15 Vivax wrote:
To the end that he's scum, if that's your question. I don't see why he starts trying so hard JUST on the day that scum is really up for lynch.

wasn't quite my question

actually he started pushing for damdred before the cop business.

thinking about it, i really dislike how he self-characterised his play as "bad" this game, like he said he was having a bad game. He's not having a bad game, he's having a game where he's not tried to play, the two aren't the same.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 20:19 GMT
#6927
er, i should clarify because half of that was in my head.

when i said "actually he started pushing for damdred before the cop business." that was meant to be adding legitimacy to your point, i just didn't say so
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 20:28 GMT
#6932
yeah. with geript (town) up for lynch, pushing hard for superbia (mafia) seems kinda suicidal and unnecessary if damdred is mafia. because i think that lynch could easily have happened once art-sl-me all switched over to it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:25 GMT
#6973
On January 11 2015 08:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
The way I see this game we now have ritoky as confirmed mafia, damdred as likely second one, and pending further reading maybe vivax too.


Is this me being derp or does Palmar not list the fifth scum cause from his point of view he doesn't have to (since he knows he's the fifth).

So, a scumslip of sorts.

that's called having a conclusion already and retrofitting what you see to fit the conclusion
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 23:26 GMT
#6974
and yes, the game of mafia is in general a rather splendid one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 23:29 GMT
#6976
the cool dudes will still be playing on TL mafia though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:30 GMT
#6978
On January 11 2015 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
Vivax, just food for thought: Do you think I would've reevaluated my read on both you and Damdred if I was scum? I was kinda meh on you and now I'm quite certain you are town, and Damdred was my top scum read and I now see him as town as well. This would be, like you are saying, narrowing down my lynch options far too much.

it's a reasonable point but it's kinda annoying that you're aware of it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 23:39 GMT
#6980
i think that's pretty silly tbh. i was saying you've started with the premise that Palmar is mafia and now you're fitting his posts to match with that premise. Palmar mentioning 1,2,4,6 mafia is really neither here nor there. It's not like he was even listing the mafia team. and I don't think i've ever seen any kinda comparable slip to that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:43 GMT
#6983
er...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:47 GMT
#6988
ritoky is my god-damn lynch, dumbo
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:47 GMT
#6989
On January 11 2015 08:46 Vivax wrote:
If you spot any oddities it's probably cause i'm slightly wasted, but only slightly, and I feel the stuff I write still makes sense.

gin & tonic?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:49 GMT
#6990
I miss Kelsier and Artanis today
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 23:52 GMT
#6994
I know what you mean there, it's just bs.

It's very difficult to hard scumread Palmar because essentially if he's mafia he's mafia because he has no impetus to play the game, he's disconnected from what's going on, he pushes me and drops off it later, etc. etc.

the issue is that there's a non-negligible possibility Palmar does that as town too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:54 GMT
#6995
On January 11 2015 08:51 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
ritoky is my god-damn lynch, dumbo


Yeah but ritoky also sac'd himself to out the cop. If mafia were bussing anyone on their scum team it would be ritoky honestly.

That seems especially true after ritoky just gave up after robik flip and mafia flipped robik.

So yeah, to me, Ritoky dying is blatantly part of the scum teams agenda and therefore town cred for his lynch = nothing.

i started and repeatedly pushed the wagon d3 that led to him claiming :/

if you went back and re-read d3 you'd see that ritoky becoming the main wagon didn't happen for quite some time, there were votes all over the shop.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:55 GMT
#6997
wtf are you talking about
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 10 2015 23:55 GMT
#6998
why would I bring up everything Palmar has done? i don't even
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 10 2015 23:59 GMT
#7000
On January 11 2015 08:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 08:54 marvellosity wrote:
On January 11 2015 08:51 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 11 2015 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
ritoky is my god-damn lynch, dumbo


Yeah but ritoky also sac'd himself to out the cop. If mafia were bussing anyone on their scum team it would be ritoky honestly.

That seems especially true after ritoky just gave up after robik flip and mafia flipped robik.

So yeah, to me, Ritoky dying is blatantly part of the scum teams agenda and therefore town cred for his lynch = nothing.

i started and repeatedly pushed the wagon d3 that led to him claiming :/

if you went back and re-read d3 you'd see that ritoky becoming the main wagon didn't happen for quite some time, there were votes all over the shop.


Well I haven't read anything from before page 284 so that kinda makes sense, honestly though marv you must be self aware enough to understand why I think your play is odd this game. Because it is flat out odd.

yes, it does make sense :d lol

it's not odd, it's not as shouty.

literally my only regret with how i played so far is that i didn't hardpush superbia on d2. but i can live with that if that's my biggest mistake.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 11 2015 00:01 GMT
#7004
what of it? 29 pages is way beyond my scumplay. what now?

like if you're gonna scumread me for not being shouty rather than whether i make sense or not, good luck to you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 11 2015 00:02 GMT
#7006
On January 11 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 05:18 marvellosity wrote:
On January 11 2015 05:15 Vivax wrote:
To the end that he's scum, if that's your question. I don't see why he starts trying so hard JUST on the day that scum is really up for lynch.

wasn't quite my question

actually he started pushing for damdred before the cop business.

thinking about it, i really dislike how he self-characterised his play as "bad" this game, like he said he was having a bad game. He's not having a bad game, he's having a game where he's not tried to play, the two aren't the same.


Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 05:21 Vivax wrote:
Wasn't he who said on D2 something like "Damdred is either scum or he's the cop".

D3 he says if the CCer to ritoky is Damdred we lynch him


****marv doesn't reply to the above*****

Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 08:52 marvellosity wrote:
I know what you mean there, it's just bs.

It's very difficult to hard scumread Palmar because essentially if he's mafia he's mafia because he has no impetus to play the game, he's disconnected from what's going on, he pushes me and drops off it later, etc. etc.

the issue is that there's a non-negligible possibility Palmar does that as town too.


Marv doesn't consider his first post up there in his last post down here when evaluating Palmar.

You scum marvybaby?

i've literally no idea what you're babbling about. again, why would i list everything palmar has done in a one-sentence summary?

hello???
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 11 2015 00:02 GMT
#7007
On January 11 2015 09:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:
DP read above post


I don't get it.

lol amen.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 00:06 GMT
#7011
On January 11 2015 09:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 09:01 marvellosity wrote:
what of it? 29 pages is way beyond my scumplay. what now?

like if you're gonna scumread me for not being shouty rather than whether i make sense or not, good luck to you.


You always make sense as both alignments so if I wanted to catch Scum!Marv then making sense would be a bad criteria to look at.

so are you really incapable of townreading me unless i shout? is that it?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 00:06 GMT
#7012
On January 11 2015 09:06 Vivax wrote:
Like, if marv was really suspicious of him there for that poiint, why doesn't he bring up that point up again in the 8:52 post? Where is the motivation to push Palmar for that point he made? Why didn't he comment on my 5:21 post?

you're a bit nutty. none of your points make sense or mean anything. sry.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 00:07 GMT
#7013
Vivax have you not noticed I tend to ignore a lot of what you say in general?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 11 2015 00:07 GMT
#7015
lol it's really not me that's the one not making sense dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 00:11 GMT
#7017
because i don't understand the point you're making and i rarely do, vivax.

so palmar said lynch damdred if damdred is the cc - so what?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 00:14 GMT
#7021
like i already said, town should be lynching Palmar tomorrow. that's where my vote is going.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 00:16 GMT
#7026
On January 11 2015 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
like i already said, town should be lynching Palmar tomorrow. that's where my vote is going.


Why?


because i said so
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 00:16 GMT
#7028
Palmar is an infinitely better lynch because it forces a defence out of him
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 14:10 GMT
#7124
\o/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 14:12 GMT
#7125
3.5k posts per mafia, not bad
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#7248
On January 12 2015 05:07 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 12 2015 05:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 12 2015 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 12 2015 04:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 12 2015 04:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred, if you think mafia preferred ritoky's death, you have to admit that Superbia's wagon was pure town.

Do you think all the ritoky voters are scum?

This is terrible reasoning. If scum want something it doesn't mean they all pile upon that objective. The game would be quite easy if that were the case.


Superbia wasting his vote is extremely peculiar, Artanis. It indicates a plan.

Ritoky wasted his vote too. Why are you conveniently forgetting that?


What difference does it make to what I'm saying?

Because for some reason Superbia wasting a vote implies a plan to you but Ritoky doing the same doesn't?


Superbia's survivability depended on him voting ritoky, something he didn't. Ritoky's survivability didn't depend on that.

In any way, this also reinforces the theory that mafia had left their votes outside the wagons in case townies changed from Superbia to ritoky, so they could still guarantee Superbia's lynch.

Lazermonkey, I can't explain that list because I'm completely confused with this game, if you couldn't already tell

Ritoky was one vote away from dying himself. If scum truly wanted Ritoky to live over Superbia then Ritoky would've voted Superbia to avoid any town throwing a wrench in their plans.


Can you explain to me what happened then?


Scum wanted Ritoky to die over Super but couldn't get it done.

this doesn't make sense to me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 11 2015 22:35 GMT
#7250
On January 12 2015 06:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 05:49 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 12 2015 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 12 2015 05:34 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 12 2015 05:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 12 2015 04:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 10 2015 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
A few questions GB

Who are the other mafia on superbia besides lazer?

Also the theory rests on that rit is the framer. What if he's not what does that change?


It makes lazermonkey town.

Ritoky must be lynched today anyway, there is no motive for Superbia to waste his vote if ritoky was town.

GB, what do you think about this now that ritoky did not flip framer?


This was before I thought about the scenario where mafia didn't really believed Robik was cop and was trying to guarantee ritoky's claim on the next day.

So, you're still scum to my eyes.

waitwat? Do you REALLY believe this? I mean, alot of people was unsure about who was cop between Robik and ritoky but scum knew that ritoky was scum, so they shouldn't have been unsure at all.


Kelsier was hinting he was the cop, so was SL.
The fact that SL didn't die night2, btw, is odd

Lol, yhea but we are talking about D3 now. Kel didn't claim cop. Robik did. Do you really think that scum thought that anyone but Robik was cop? I mean, he obviously wasn't modconfirmed but he was really fucking likely to be cop at that point.


After saying to marv that he would fake claim he was the cop the get ritoky lunched, his claim was pretty unclear.

it read more to me that he was desperately trying to induce doubt into his claim and not succeeding all that well
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 12 2015 10:35 GMT
#7281
hey sl. Kill Plam with me? Should be more game-solvey than voting Vivax right now.

##Vote: Palmar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 12 2015 12:12 GMT
#7284
i'm looking forward to great things.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 12 2015 14:06 GMT
#7299
come on, GB. A hard deflection? I don't think anyone was massively surprised at the n2 kills, so it wasn't anything at all that needed deflecting.

sl: hold on to me tight, i promise everything will be ok
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 12 2015 14:08 GMT
#7300
On January 12 2015 23:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh sweet, sweet plumber
Will you join us today a little longer
There are many questions waiting for you
If you do not answer, you will become poo

When you are scum, you tread the middle of the road
Whereas as town, you go hard or play like a toad
This game you have been mostly invisible
Where is the Palmar that makes his alignment divisible?

Your case on GB was most curious
And your case against Damdred dubious
You helped lynch Geript, a member of our town
What have you done this game that hasn't made us frown?

Oh Plumber, dear dear plumber
We know you love cutting lumber
Yesterday, a tree fell on DP's head
And now we must make you dead.
##Vote Palmar

move over Shelley and Keats, we got a new master in town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 12 2015 14:10 GMT
#7303
er... let me re-read it then
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January 12 2015 14:13 GMT
#7305
well, it could be read that he is dismissing a fact that he doesn't see as particularly important after all.

i'm not sure how much you can read into someone going "lol, yeah" when what you mentioned was only really a sidepoint to the main topic at the time
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 14:14 GMT
#7306
On January 12 2015 23:12 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 23:04 sicklucker wrote:
We really need to do 12/24 hour cycles slam like in mspaint.


disagree totally we need every second to figure out the mafia team. Shorter days favour mafia over town.


i'd say shorter day today would favour mafia, but not necessarily in general. shorter days when things are more settled help prevent impatience and paranoia from town
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 15:23 GMT
#7314
On January 13 2015 00:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 19:35 marvellosity wrote:
hey sl. Kill Plam with me? Should be more game-solvey than voting Vivax right now.

##Vote: Palmar

That's not how it works marv.

And it's strange that you don't know it.

You have to actually say why I am mafia.

there's reasons from various people littered all over the thread.

You see, actually it is how it works. Pretty sure you've said it yourself - cases are just for herding the sheeple. The fact is your sustained play (purposeful choice of words) over the course of the game means the sheeple don't need something pretty to convince them.
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 15:24 GMT
#7315
On January 13 2015 00:07 Palmar wrote:
Like I get the idea "hey let's vote palmar so he defends himself". But you have to give at least one reason as to why I am scum. Otherwise you're just killing me for... I have no idea what.

l2r
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January 12 2015 15:30 GMT
#7318
On January 13 2015 00:25 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 23:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Your case on GB was most curious


Don't know what you mean by curious. It's super townie if you know how brains work. If I am mafia, I already know GB's alignment, so why would I bother with the whole "start out piling some scum points on him, pretend to read more, then completely flip my conclusion and call him town".

Like I'm not good enough at scum to do that. Now obviously you can argue this, but I'd think that because I have perfect information as mafia, I wouldn't have bothered with the whole changing my mind in the middle of the post/filter read. I think I'd rather have tried to strengthen whichever conclusion I wanted to reach by mostly citing examples pointing in that one direction.

Stopping mid-filter when I feel confident he's town after questioning some of his early stuff, is something not many mafia would do.

You're absolutely self-aware enough to do this Palmar. C'mon.
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January 12 2015 15:37 GMT
#7321
yeah he sort of did.
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January 12 2015 15:41 GMT
#7323
You know I can't possibly answer that question...

because I'm feeling charitable, here's EOD votecount d2 (re: your damdred-superbia stuff)

On January 05 2015 14:12 Alakaslam wrote:
I Count this vote sons


Vivax (3): IAmRobik, marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, artanis[xP], VisceraEyes, DoctorHelvetica, Sicklucker, geript, ritoky
Superbia (4): artanis[xP], sicklucker, Damdred, Artanis[XP], sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie
IAmRobik (1): geript, Superbia
sicklucker (0): ritoky, superbia
TheChyz (0): Palmar
geript (6): Vivax, Artanis[xP], DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, justanothertownie, Artanis[XP]

Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in



Bear in mind this *doesn't* include Kelsier's kinda failed attempt to switch to Superbia at EoD. So I'd say a Super lynch was a distinct possibility
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January 12 2015 15:56 GMT
#7330
Damdred *did* push Super pretty consistently into the run-up to eod d2 though:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474082-imperial-mafia?user=Damdred&page=8
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January 12 2015 16:04 GMT
#7338
Palmar do you understand how your play this game hasn't really fitted into either your usual town or mafia frameworks?
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 16:19 GMT
#7349
On January 13 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 01:08 Palmar wrote:
On January 13 2015 01:04 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar do you understand how your play this game hasn't really fitted into either your usual town or mafia frameworks?

Yes, sort of.

In fact, on the surface there is one trait that (can be reasonably explained) that should make me 100% mafia this game by a certain metric I know you use.


Like this is almost fun.

Here's a hint: I actually give hardly any fucks this game.

yup, and that's the townside.

it's the half-hearted, intermittent giving of fucks that is more the issue. oddly to anyone else i guess.
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January 12 2015 16:21 GMT
#7352
is the answer going to be illuminatingly alignment indicative in some way?
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 16:22 GMT
#7353
as an aside, this is why people think we're weird.
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January 12 2015 16:25 GMT
#7356
if it was to do with the length of the game, i wouldn't expect the intermittent fucks.

nor do i think it's to do with pressure or not on you.

uh
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January 12 2015 16:29 GMT
#7359
On January 13 2015 01:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
if it was to do with the length of the game, i wouldn't expect the intermittent fucks.

nor do i think it's to do with pressure or not on you.

uh

Yes, neither is correct.

you're gonna have to help a bro out
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 16:47 GMT
#7381
On January 13 2015 01:37 Palmar wrote:
So this is where I'm at:

Town:

Palmar
Artanis
SL (36 pages of filter, gj bro)
GB

Maybe scum:

Chez
Marv
Ksc
Vivax
LM

to respond to your previous, i'ma tier people, leaving you out:

marv
SL
Artanis
Kelsier
On January 12 2015 08:36 KelsierSC wrote:
Crazy weekend for me, going to read over the events

Ag the moment I dont like

Viv,palmar,lm

Def town
SL,dam,artanis,drh

Sorry I was inactive , I'm surprised more people didn't vote Viv.
.

I'm having a problem with Kelsier in that his activity is non-existent and this reads list seems out of date/repeated for the sake of it. The problem with having a problem is that I was very sure he was town before and it's very rare that I'm wrong on these
----
Damdred
Chez - other people seem to be convinced that Chyz's ragequit makes him town. I've never really shared this absolute conviction, but meeeeh, i guess it's more likely to come from town?
Vivax
GB - don't buy your buddying argument, and DP seemed convinced he was mafia
LM - few reasons to call him town, which isn't great at this stage

somehow i doubt the bottom 3 are all mafia, which means i would need to introduce damd/chez/kelsier into the equation (again under the assumption that you are town). But with 3 mafia left there's bound to be mafia in there.

tbh i was kinda hoping you were going to roll over and die, but there remains the real possibility that you're town still


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January 12 2015 16:50 GMT
#7384
confirmed town is really a stretch. more townie than mafia on probabilities, definitely.
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January 12 2015 16:52 GMT
#7386
On January 13 2015 01:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Marv why do you still suspect Vivax? He's got a longer filter than you and he has similar problems with volume posting as scum.

because the people above him are townier
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January 12 2015 16:53 GMT
#7389
On January 13 2015 01:52 Palmar wrote:
I don't know if it's eerie that marv says a lot of things I think (regarding chyz/chez etc).

100% spooky
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January 12 2015 16:55 GMT
#7393
I actually expect more from Chez than what he's given us if he's town, but the town-allure from the Chyz ragequit is quite strong.
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January 12 2015 17:19 GMT
#7408
On January 13 2015 02:18 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax I first green checked lm because I didnt think he was scum. That should be obvious why would I green check a mafia? When it became very clear to me that mafia knew I was fake (ritoky super) I quickly turned it into a "trap" and changed my check hoping to get nked.

the only question i can find in what vivax posted is why you put robik in your scumteam when you said you townread him before
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January 12 2015 20:54 GMT
#7480
On January 13 2015 05:11 Vivax wrote:
Yes N1 and the other three nights as well.

Marv hasn't led a lynch on scum for all this game. We are beyond the marv-reading-flowchart and much more already.

It's time that marv dies.

just got home to read this nonsense. what happened on day 3 again?
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 20:56 GMT
#7482
can I get some pretty colours, Chez?
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January 12 2015 20:57 GMT
#7483
On January 13 2015 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm bored, sorry.

I won't even be mad if you guys lynch me because I understand I'm not playing optimal.

But this game, I don't know... It bored me. In a way I can't get involved.

I can't stop thinking LM is mafia and I'll be voting him, though.

But in the end I may sheep koshi/Robik into Vivax because koshi has got swag or marv into palmar because if r gets palmar wrong we just lynch him next day.

what happened to "i'm displaying a bazillion townie traits"?
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 20:58 GMT
#7485
On January 13 2015 04:44 Vivax wrote:
I would totes lynch marv today after reading what DP posted on him in the night.
The excuse is that marv is apparently trying to apply a less shouty townplay so he doesn't get caught as easily in future town games.
I wouldn't be surprised if DP got killed for saying that.

Like, town marv is usually the guy who sits in the thread, with a clear picture of his reads, and then he will reach out to everyone in the thread in order to get his scumreads lynched. Anyone who disagrees with him is subject under scrutiny, and if you call him mafia and he's town he'll insult you.

so you're just perpetuating the stereotpye, it's pathetic.
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January 12 2015 21:24 GMT
#7510
On January 13 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, would you lynch marv?
Palmar, would you lynch Artanis?

maybe
no

I am still undecided on marv. Once again I feel like he's taking no leadership role.

Also, I feel he's still being way too wishy washy on my alignment. After our interaction today he basically said "there is a chance you're town". He should honestly have shut down all talk of lynching me. Hell, he knows I would be lobbying so hard to kill him if I'm mafia and he's town.

But, he also makes much more sense than half of you morons all the time.

Btw, I'm calling it now, some smartass is going to post in the postgame "WTF U MORONS MARV ALIVE DAY 4 MUST LYNCH!!!!!111" if marv is mafia.

I am going to find that guy, and punch him in the face.

Consider this a warning.

don't overstate your play this day. I should not have shut down the talk of lynching you, and it's bad that you're saying so
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 21:27 GMT
#7512
On January 13 2015 06:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
Like is there a chance the mafia team is damdred/ksc/marv?

It's definitely possible.

O.o

really art?
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January 12 2015 21:30 GMT
#7516
On January 13 2015 06:26 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 06:24 marvellosity wrote:
On January 13 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote:
On January 13 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, would you lynch marv?
Palmar, would you lynch Artanis?

maybe
no

I am still undecided on marv. Once again I feel like he's taking no leadership role.

Also, I feel he's still being way too wishy washy on my alignment. After our interaction today he basically said "there is a chance you're town". He should honestly have shut down all talk of lynching me. Hell, he knows I would be lobbying so hard to kill him if I'm mafia and he's town.

But, he also makes much more sense than half of you morons all the time.

Btw, I'm calling it now, some smartass is going to post in the postgame "WTF U MORONS MARV ALIVE DAY 4 MUST LYNCH!!!!!111" if marv is mafia.

I am going to find that guy, and punch him in the face.

Consider this a warning.

don't overstate your play this day. I should not have shut down the talk of lynching you, and it's bad that you're saying so


No it isn't. I've been so reasonable.

What do you think about LM and the quote I mentioned being townie?

you're gonna tell me you wouldn't attempt to be reasonable as mafia? the game i'm really thinking of where you defended yourself as town I wasn't even in, that combined student game thing, and you were literally relentless. like just on, and on, and on, and on.

i don't think that much of the quote you posted, because it will be a bluff. when i'm at work tomorrow i'm gonna look for reasons for LM to be town, because that seems an ok way of going about things. and i'll actually do it this time (hi art) because this time it's important
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January 12 2015 21:31 GMT
#7517
On January 13 2015 06:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
On January 13 2015 06:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 13 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
Like is there a chance the mafia team is damdred/ksc/marv?

It's definitely possible.

O.o

really art?

I don't think it's the case, but I don't have a confirmed townread on any of you three. KSC used to be there but he's fallen off the edge of the earth.

then you're being a little disingenuous with "it's definitely possible", aren't you
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January 12 2015 21:34 GMT
#7519
any mafia grouping is "definitely possible" then.

well whatever.
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January 12 2015 21:36 GMT
#7520
just read down the page, where i wrote "it will be a bluff", will = can obviously
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January 12 2015 21:38 GMT
#7523
On January 13 2015 06:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 06:34 marvellosity wrote:
any mafia grouping is "definitely possible" then.

well whatever.

False, any mafia team with me in it is 100% impossible.

*raises eyebrow*

well played, sir
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marvellosity
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January 12 2015 21:47 GMT
#7524
On January 13 2015 05:11 Vivax wrote:
Yes N1 and the other three nights as well.

Marv hasn't led a lynch on scum for all this game. We are beyond the marv-reading-flowchart and much more already.

It's time that marv dies.

On January 06 2015 16:12 Vivax wrote:
And if you want to know one example of how I play scum, here's the scum qt from Titanic mafia [some number].

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/8tECwNmGtaf7

Palmar:
Show nested quote +

Sure, then we shoot koshi or something. Or we might just shoot Holyflare, I don't really care.

Also Austin and Vivax I'm bussing the fuck out of you. You're fired from my mafia team.



Show nested quote +
I literally want to lynch you for failing to produce 40 posts vivax. It was a simple request from Koshi.


Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 07:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Flips] +
Coagulation the Art Student (vanilla town) was modkilled on Day 1
Vivax the Edouard Manet (roleblocker) was lynched Day 1
Holyflare the Art Student (vanilla town) died Night 1
Giggletummy the Vincent van Gogh (godfather) died Night 1
djodref the Art Student (Vanilla Town) was lynched Day 2
thrawn2112 the Art Student (Vanilla Town) died Night 2




Yes, I am THIS bad and unmotivated at playing scum and I have a really hard time producing a lot of content when I'm scum. And when you say I'm scum this game after reading my scum games then you need to get your brain checked. There are worlds apart between my scum play and my town play.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462291-showdown-mafia?user=marvellosity
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=marvellosity
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474082-imperial-mafia?user=marvellosity
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January 12 2015 21:59 GMT
#7528
I never claim I'm very rarely wrong with my reads. I claim I'm very rarely wrong when I'm certain.

see above post. got any sensible response? i'm thinking no.
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January 12 2015 22:02 GMT
#7530
the point is i don't even bother trying as mafia anymore.

and this game is *so* far removed from both those games that you're basically fucking insane.
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January 12 2015 22:03 GMT
#7531
and please, if you're gonna tell me i didn't hardpush for ritoky on day 3, before any of the claim shit, i will come to austria and laugh in your face.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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January 12 2015 22:04 GMT
#7532
now i'm gonna wash up
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January 12 2015 22:08 GMT
#7534
"according to DP" - lol, so what? what he said didn't even really make sense, he said "superbia could have lived with a modicum of effort" - the whole point is, Superbia didn't put in that modicum of effort to prevent himself getting lynched.

if "convenient" = voted for mafia and hardpushed for mafia when i was certain, then yes, it's very convenient. damn.
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January 12 2015 22:19 GMT
#7536
not stating more than i've already said (with the order i gave palmar) until i'm ready.

especially i need to engage more with palmar tomorrow
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January 13 2015 09:57 GMT
#7616
you're probably the worst player i've ever played with
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January 13 2015 09:58 GMT
#7617
obviously i'm comparing recent mafiagames because recently i've completely given up trying as mafia.

are you actually that stupid?

i already know the answer
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 09:59 GMT
#7618
On January 13 2015 13:11 Vivax wrote:
From mafia Database

Mafia Win Percentage (Minimum 5 games)
1.marvellosity 10/11 = 90.9091%

From the DB.

Town Win Percentage (Minimum 10 games)
1.DarthPunk 9/12 = 75.0000%

Now pick who you want to listen to this game. DP or marv hahahah

I mean this just makes you look really, really, impressively stupid.

anyway, I will make this many posts addressing Vivax today after this I can help it:

0
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January 13 2015 10:21 GMT
#7622
yep, all that looks pretty good to me. is that a towncase?
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January 13 2015 10:22 GMT
#7624
probably not. i think he's building it as a nutjob
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January 13 2015 10:23 GMT
#7625
i super duper need to not get dragged into it though, but i find it hard to help myself
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January 13 2015 10:23 GMT
#7627
he's town, SL is town, Artanis is town, yes
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January 13 2015 10:25 GMT
#7628
assuming he is town, vivax played mafia #6 very well this game
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January 13 2015 10:26 GMT
#7630
YOU ALSO CALL ME SCUM EVERY TIME I AM TOWN
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January 13 2015 10:27 GMT
#7631
you are literally obsessed with me. in the mafia sense.
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January 13 2015 10:27 GMT
#7632
you're the mafia equivalent of a stalker I guess.
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January 13 2015 10:30 GMT
#7634
i rest my case
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January 13 2015 10:36 GMT
#7636
probably neither
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January 13 2015 10:39 GMT
#7639
or 2-3 mafia in GB, LM, Palmar. That's a better hit-rate.
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January 13 2015 10:39 GMT
#7640
why are you pushing silliness at me Palmar?
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January 13 2015 10:44 GMT
#7645
On January 13 2015 19:41 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
why are you pushing silliness at me Palmar?

That's a dumb question.

Like you understand clearly what I am doing here. There's nothing silly about this at all.

If you are actually town your townreads should mostly be good.

If you are mafia, I'm trying to make you townread all the townies.

no, you're trying to put words in my mouth and suggest things, and it looks like shit.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 13 2015 10:44 GMT
#7646
On January 13 2015 19:43 Palmar wrote:
And you have to stop with the "Palmar could be mafia" thing. It's both getting old, it's false and it in no way helps solve the game.

stuff like this does not make me think you are town.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 10:47 GMT
#7650
he wasn't, i won that game
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January 13 2015 10:49 GMT
#7654
On January 13 2015 19:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
On January 13 2015 19:41 Palmar wrote:
On January 13 2015 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
why are you pushing silliness at me Palmar?

That's a dumb question.

Like you understand clearly what I am doing here. There's nothing silly about this at all.

If you are actually town your townreads should mostly be good.

If you are mafia, I'm trying to make you townread all the townies.

no, you're trying to put words in my mouth and suggest things, and it looks like shit.

No it doesn't, and you trying to say it looks like shit does look like shit.

what the hell does "put words in my mouth and suggest things" even mean.

I am trying to figure out who you want to call mafia. You have 4 townreads (including yourself), and you seem to think neither Ksc nor damdred should be lynched.

This severly narrows the potential pool of lynches, and since we have 3 mafia left, and you've not (in my memory) stated ou don't want to lynch 4 people in the game, that should be a fairly high shot at hitting mafia in your world.

The problem is, your world doesn't fit with mine and I don't know why.

It means I gave you a tiered list and for some reason you're picking 2 players in the middle of it and asking me who i should lynch between them, when there are 3 mafia left. Let's even say one of Damdred/Kelsier is mafia - that wouldn't be my starting place, would it?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 10:49 GMT
#7655
On January 13 2015 19:48 Palmar wrote:
It was awful.

it made the victories 100x as sweet actually
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January 13 2015 10:50 GMT
#7657
On January 13 2015 19:44 Vivax wrote:
Palmar, how did you lynch marv in metal mafia, I've read a little so I know it was you.

tldr:

I said bitch
couldn't be bothered to play the game
gave up as soon as i started getting pushed

that cover it Palmar?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 10:51 GMT
#7658
On January 13 2015 19:35 Palmar wrote:
So marv, which one do we lynch then?

damdred or kelsiersc?

ok Palmar, but this doesn't sound like, given your previous line of questioning, this was from a "your world" angle. Doyousee?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 10:53 GMT
#7661
Do you think DP was just violently wrong on GB?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 10:56 GMT
#7662
##unvote
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January 13 2015 11:02 GMT
#7665
So GB does this thing where he spends multiple posts spread over the course of the game saying he's obviously town or is displaying town traits, but somehow fails to ever say what they actually supposedly are.

Then on other occasions he's kinda defeatist and is almost submitting to the lynch, says he's uninvested in the game, doesn't want to make cases etc.

The two don't marry together very well.

The primary basis for your townread is that he seems happy just to lynch people and you don't think he'd do that as mafia? Is that the gist of it?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 11:07 GMT
#7669
takes so long to bloody find posts in this game. but i'll go trawl

On January 13 2015 20:03 Palmar wrote:
How about this.

Back in the day, Kelsier said we shouldn't lynch ritoky because it wouldn't give us any info.

To which you responded "..."

Do you think this has anything to do with Ksc's alignment?


I ... because it was totally ridiculous. I think I'd expect, if Kelsier was mafia, for him not to defend ritoky on such nonsense. Although we didn't end up killing ritoky so i dno. do mafia really say tha tthough? i dont think so really
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 11:09 GMT
#7670
On January 13 2015 20:05 Palmar wrote:
And because you're appealing to DP's reads, that guy had me as fairly solid town. Because brain was installed at birth.

i think the last thing he said was "i don't think palmar is mafia", so you're definitely a good salesman ^^
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January 13 2015 11:11 GMT
#7671
On January 08 2015 05:27 Palmar wrote:
Also I think I got from his filter that he wanted to kill sicklucker for the claim. I think that's actually a fairly town move because mafia would most likely not want to push an un-ccd cop even if that cop is being a bit of a dick with it.

so you know sl is pushing Lazer because ritoky and superbia DID push said un-cc cop?
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January 13 2015 11:17 GMT
#7672
On January 08 2015 05:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:07 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!
I'm town

I'm also on the beach so I'm not reading the thread yet.

First page = geript and damdy trolling mafai.

Brb


Tone read. He wrote "O hai!" which sort of feels like one of these "Look how casual and chill I am, totally not mafia" (think what I said about marv's "bitch" last game.

Some scum points for that.


Here's a few examples of posts I saw while skimming his filter that oculd be from town.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Give me
ONE REASON
For why I'm mafia.
ONE REASON.


Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 03:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Stop this stupidity


Your tone read seems to be at least a bit mixed overall

do you really think GB can't post these last 2 as mafia? I think it's easily within his range
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 11:37 GMT
#7674
yeah that one isn't a strong argument
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January 13 2015 11:40 GMT
#7675
GB - do you have any towngames where you are disaffected with the progress of the game?
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January 13 2015 11:51 GMT
#7677
On January 13 2015 20:50 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
On January 08 2015 05:27 Palmar wrote:
Also I think I got from his filter that he wanted to kill sicklucker for the claim. I think that's actually a fairly town move because mafia would most likely not want to push an un-ccd cop even if that cop is being a bit of a dick with it.

so you know sl is pushing Lazer because ritoky and superbia DID push said un-cc cop?

I don't get the question.

The assumption is that mafia has no idea whether or not SL is cop. However if LM is mafia (which certainly is a possibility) mafia would've known this was a fake claim.

the question/point -

Your contention: mafia would not want to push un-cc cop
sl's reason for pushing Lazer: 2 other mafia pushed the un-cc cop
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 12:06 GMT
#7679
no it's not. and this is becoming a way bigger deal than i intended, and i was merely using sl as a prop.

my point was that a bit of your townread was that you think mafia wouldn't push the un-cc cop, when mafia did. that's all.

but it wasn't worth all these posts :p
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 12:13 GMT
#7683
I think GB is mafia. I find it so hard to believe a player like him would be disaffected with the game like he has been this game, he should be in his absolute element.

not going to push this one until at the least i've been through LM though.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 16:43 GMT
#7729
On January 13 2015 22:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 12:57 Vivax wrote:
On January 13 2015 12:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Marv, what's your read on damdred?

Palmar, what's your read on damdred?


What's the matter with Damdred Damdred. Isn't it enough he was the biggest pusher for super on D2? He also kept asking me to look at his VE case at the start of the day. Like, this guy really believes what he writes, he ain't scum, and now do some real work. U scum with Palmar and marv, teddy?


Your reaction to this is odd since I've made the same post regarding other players and you weren't jumping to their defense like you are here.

Now, marv and palmar, care to answer?

Damdy, I've already said you're null and I've already explained why you has town facets and why you have scum facets.

probably town
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 16:43 GMT
#7731
On January 14 2015 01:27 Vivax wrote:
To sheep DP on marv or to sheep him on GB, that's the question.

Marv has a higher scum winrate than him, and DP has the highest town winrate, so we can be fans of the statistical approach and lynch marv, or get lulled in by his wicked sorcery and leave him alive until he laughs at us in post game.

I don't think you understand statistics in any way
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 16:44 GMT
#7733
I'll be home in ~2h for the rest of the evening
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 16:44 GMT
#7734
On January 14 2015 01:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 00:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also, Marv, why did you unvote Palmar? What vindicated him to you to the point that you don't want to lynch him today?


it just reflects my uncertainty
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#7736
no idea, see above
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January 13 2015 16:49 GMT
#7738
yw. you've not had to deal with a mad vivax and you seem no closer yourself, so how is asking me that question helping you find scum today?

see i can do it too.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 16:55 GMT
#7743
pretty doubtful, unless something comes up that's better than what i've seen.

to an extent I agree with Plam that Damdred has been less assertive than I might expect, but the difference is nowhere near what i'm seeing. his push on Superbia d2 was pretty good and actually quite assertive, in some ways it was bad luck (?) that it didn't yield results that day. Also similarly with his VE push (even though wrong)

and a couple of little things like how he questioned sl on his greencheck on him
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January 13 2015 16:56 GMT
#7744
On January 14 2015 01:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
yw. you've not had to deal with a mad vivax and you seem no closer yourself, so how is asking me that question helping you find scum today?

see i can do it too.

Had the answer been enlightening, it might've provided me with an additional reason to read you as townie. As it stands I don't really see a reason for the unvote other than you both being scum and as such you don't want the lynch to end up on Palmar today.

you've repeatedly banged the (correct) filter size argument for me.

If the answer to that question was what you require to additionally read me as town, you're doin the game wrong.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:00 GMT
#7746
On January 14 2015 01:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
yw. you've not had to deal with a mad vivax and you seem no closer yourself, so how is asking me that question helping you find scum today?

see i can do it too.

Had the answer been enlightening, it might've provided me with an additional reason to read you as townie. As it stands I don't really see a reason for the unvote other than you both being scum and as such you don't want the lynch to end up on Palmar today.

lmao. Somehow I glazed over this.

Are you serious??

rofl
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:02 GMT
#7747
so your contention is that I pushed my vote on to Palmar, explicitly told DP that's what we should do, and told sl to come with me on Palmar, so I could give a non-commital read later?

I'm a bloody genius!
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:04 GMT
#7749
if I were scum with Palmar I'd know he wouldn't give a good defence, and I wouldn't set him up in a grand fashion to have to do it either.

Get a grip.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:06 GMT
#7751
ok dear. Go and join Vivax in the crazy corner like a good boy.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:08 GMT
#7752
like there is nothing I can say to reasonably deconstruct a conspiracy theory.

that's the nature of a conspiracy theory.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:09 GMT
#7754
are you being witty or are you actually flipping your read on me based on this drivel?
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January 13 2015 17:11 GMT
#7757
On January 14 2015 02:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 02:08 marvellosity wrote:
like there is nothing I can say to reasonably deconstruct a conspiracy theory.

that's the nature of a conspiracy theory.

Actually, there's plenty you could do. I already figured a counterargument to my point:
Why would I (you) expect Palmar to step it up and become more active when he has been thoroughly demotivated throughout the game?
You're welcome.

On January 14 2015 02:04 marvellosity wrote:
if I were scum with Palmar I'd know he wouldn't give a good defence, and I wouldn't set him up in a grand fashion to have to do it either.

ya
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:12 GMT
#7759
you know that's the first sign of madness, right?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:13 GMT
#7762
*backs away slowly*
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January 13 2015 17:20 GMT
#7764
you've had your answer.
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January 13 2015 17:32 GMT
#7766
no i didn't

pls read.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 17:33 GMT
#7767
anyway, brb when i'm home
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 21:05 GMT
#7823
alright i'm back

On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:
Actually let's just do this.

Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.

Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.

##vote marvellosity

why?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 21:07 GMT
#7828
On January 14 2015 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
When I asked marv if he would lynch damdred he gave a very fluffy answer. I asked him "yes or no" and he refused to say it.
This kind of non commitment reveals that he doesn't want to link himself to damdred.

is this for real? you asked me for my read, I gave it, then I backed up my reasons for the read.

Why would I come across as unnaturally certain if I'm not certain?

Explain
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 21:08 GMT
#7830
On January 14 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
alright i'm back

On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:
Actually let's just do this.

Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.

Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.

##vote marvellosity

why?

Because you literally always do. I've never had you openly, repeatedly doubt my alignment like this throughout a game.

you fucking admit yourself your play this game has been unusual. which it has!
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January 13 2015 21:08 GMT
#7831
On January 14 2015 06:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 14 2015 05:58 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 05:55 KelsierSC wrote:
I think marv is town like 100%

Based on what?

This is a surprisingly strong read for someone who is basically one of the top 2-3 players in the history of mafia and has done jack shit this game.

Now stones, glass houses, etc, but that's not the point.


I remember he made a smart post about the order of my lynches on d2 which I liked initially. Then his votes look pretty good. I think almost everyone who was confirmed town has read marv as town aswell and his filter is pretty large so all in all he is a town read for me and not the lynch at all.

Votes looking good has nothing to do with being town.

In fact his votes look awful.

Not because he's been voting the wrong people but because he hasn't been making the sheeple line up and VOTE WITH HIM.

you mean except where i made ritoky fakeclaim?

what is this?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 21:08 GMT
#7832
are people going to seriously argue with me that I didn't push ritoky into that spot on day 3?
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 21:12 GMT
#7836
On January 14 2015 06:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
alright i'm back

On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:
Actually let's just do this.

Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.

Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.

##vote marvellosity

why?

Because you literally always do. I've never had you openly, repeatedly doubt my alignment like this throughout a game.

you fucking admit yourself your play this game has been unusual. which it has!

Who cares. The only thing that's unusual is the activity patches. Literally everything else is exactly how I play town.

You know I bus the fuck out of everyone on my team as mafia anyway.

well that's wonderful if you're sitting there as town with a town role PM. "i'm playing like town because i am town" is a nothnig argument.

your words, more or less precisely -

"there is one tell that i know you use that makes me 100% mafia"

so we go from that premise, but somehow that tell doesn't seem quite right and i don't quite see how or why.

you stepped up your play today, but not to the extent that i quite expected, again leading to uncertainty.
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January 13 2015 21:12 GMT
#7837
On January 14 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
are people going to seriously argue with me that I didn't push ritoky into that spot on day 3?

Even if it was.

What you do doesn't matter. How you do it does ))))))))) (that's a russian smiley, I learned their language in the doto).

I agree, and I did it damn townily, if i do say so myself.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 21:14 GMT
#7840
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.
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marvellosity
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January 13 2015 21:14 GMT
#7843
On January 14 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
When I asked marv if he would lynch damdred he gave a very fluffy answer. I asked him "yes or no" and he refused to say it.
This kind of non commitment reveals that he doesn't want to link himself to damdred.

is this for real? you asked me for my read, I gave it, then I backed up my reasons for the read.

Why would I come across as unnaturally certain if I'm not certain?

Explain


I don't have reads on damdred = won't lynch
I think he is scum = lynch

Instead, you gave a really unclear answer.
But the lynch today should be damdred. I've played with damdred a lot and I'm positive he is mafia.

mafia isn't binary.
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January 13 2015 21:15 GMT
#7845
On January 14 2015 06:14 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:09 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
alright i'm back

On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:
Actually let's just do this.

Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.

Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.

##vote marvellosity

why?

Because you literally always do. I've never had you openly, repeatedly doubt my alignment like this throughout a game.

you fucking admit yourself your play this game has been unusual. which it has!

Who cares. The only thing that's unusual is the activity patches. Literally everything else is exactly how I play town.

You know I bus the fuck out of everyone on my team as mafia anyway.

well that's wonderful if you're sitting there as town with a town role PM. "i'm playing like town because i am town" is a nothnig argument.

your words, more or less precisely -

"there is one tell that i know you use that makes me 100% mafia"

so we go from that premise, but somehow that tell doesn't seem quite right and i don't quite see how or why.

you stepped up your play today, but not to the extent that i quite expected, again leading to uncertainty.


Doesn't matter bro.

also this last sentence is such bs.

It's okay marv. It'll all be over soon.

it really won't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 13 2015 21:16 GMT
#7850
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.

this is a non-point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:18 GMT
#7853
On January 14 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.


Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia.

It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum.


BECAUSE YOU'D KEPT DROPPING SLIGHTS AT ME

the whole *REASON* I made the comment is because you made a sly dig at me one too many times so I called you out on it. go back and READ how it happened.

and that's to everyone.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:22 GMT
#7856
On January 14 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.


Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia.

It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum.


BECAUSE YOU'D KEPT DROPPING SLIGHTS AT ME

the whole *REASON* I made the comment is because you made a sly dig at me one too many times so I called you out on it. go back and READ how it happened.

and that's to everyone.


And in what universe does townMarv believe that scumPalmar is dumb enough to think that dropping random digs at townMarv is going to get townMarv lynched?

Like I know my scumplay isn't great, but that's bs man. I'd pocket the hell out of you if you were town and I was mafia. That, or kill you. Not let you live until day 4 yet constantly call you out for random shot.

It's basically impossible I'm not your top town atm.

I don't, I thought that's your way of vaguely keeping up appearances and "contributing" with your traditional scumread on me.

except you refused to ever flesh it out (like you usually do), so I called you out.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:26 GMT
#7858
you're pushing me retardedly, you can piss right off.

like literally everything I say hangs together because IT ALL MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I AM TOWN AND THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENED
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:30 GMT
#7862
you're very much not helping right now.

like everything in my play is townmarv, from the large filter to the actually playing the game, to the pushing the mafia i'm certain of.

literally the only thing that should make people doubt is that i didn't hardpush on day 1 for a deadline i'm not around for or something?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:31 GMT
#7864
On January 14 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote:
Like why do you even care if I'm trying to lynch you. Go talk to the others and tell someone who is mafia.

Don't you think GB looks better in recent pages?

No, I think he's pushing mislynches. Two of them.

And fucking please, you know what i'm like when people are pushing me. do you remember the game you made me ragequit from?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:34 GMT
#7867
because idiots like you bring the heat.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#7874
On January 14 2015 06:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote:
Like why do you even care if I'm trying to lynch you. Go talk to the others and tell someone who is mafia.

Don't you think GB looks better in recent pages?

No, I think he's pushing mislynches. Two of them.

And fucking please, you know what i'm like when people are pushing me. do you remember the game you made me ragequit from?


Oh so damdred is town?

"what is your read on damdred"

"probably town"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 13 2015 21:38 GMT
#7875
On January 14 2015 06:35 Palmar wrote:
Why didn't you follow up on ritoky day 1, or even attempt to make anyone listen to you?

he was absent for a long time that day, and only came back shortly after bed, didn't feel certain enough to push at the time, was tired, geript looked like a really good lynch
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 13 2015 21:39 GMT
#7878
On January 14 2015 06:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 01:55 marvellosity wrote:
pretty doubtful, unless something comes up that's better than what i've seen.

to an extent I agree with Plam that Damdred has been less assertive than I might expect, but the difference is nowhere near what i'm seeing. his push on Superbia d2 was pretty good and actually quite assertive, in some ways it was bad luck (?) that it didn't yield results that day. Also similarly with his VE push (even though wrong)

and a couple of little things like how he questioned sl on his greencheck on him


Does this looks clear to you?

yes, it explains perfectly why he's probably town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 13 2015 21:40 GMT
#7880
On January 14 2015 06:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:35 Palmar wrote:
Why didn't you follow up on ritoky day 1, or even attempt to make anyone listen to you?

he was absent for a long time that day, and only came back shortly after bed, didn't feel certain enough to push at the time, was tired, geript looked like a really good lynch

but you basically got ignored though.

you didn't mind at all?

see bold
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:41 GMT
#7881
brb
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:42 GMT
#7886
remember that post from earlier you said was reasonable that i said was reasonable about yours? about certainty?

you're retrofitting.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 13 2015 21:42 GMT
#7887
On January 14 2015 06:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:40 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:39 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:35 Palmar wrote:
Why didn't you follow up on ritoky day 1, or even attempt to make anyone listen to you?

he was absent for a long time that day, and only came back shortly after bed, didn't feel certain enough to push at the time, was tired, geript looked like a really good lynch

but you basically got ignored though.

you didn't mind at all?

see bold

Well he wasn't a good lynch.

I'm bad, what's your excuse?

he looked like a good lynch. stop being ridiculous.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:47 GMT
#7898
On January 14 2015 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:42 marvellosity wrote:
remember that post from earlier you said was reasonable that i said was reasonable about yours? about certainty?

you're retrofitting.

Does it make me mafia?

You have to say I'm top town. Maybe I'll reconsider your alignment when you acknowledge there is literally no way I'm mafia this game.

na.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 21:52 GMT
#7903
hey Lazer, you just sitting around watching all this bro?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 23:00 GMT
#7968
On January 14 2015 07:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:31 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:27 Palmar wrote:
ok so we kill marv?

36 page filter doe.

don't matter

Metal Mini Mafia - 3 page filter
Showdown Mafia - 2 page filter
Shadow Mini Mafia, where he basically went to the brink on what he can do - 23 page filter in 10 days -> 2.3 page per day.
This game, 36 page filter in 14 days -> 2.6 page per day.

It's possible, but he'd have to be in even more tryhard mode than during Shadow which was one of the most hyped up games in recent times as it was an invite game. He hasn't tried as mafia since and he just rolled mafia last game. It's hard to imagine he could charge himself up for this. Possible, but hard.

The other two games you cited is where I lynched him day 1

I don't even know how to respond to this.

Brief pop in, annoying amount of housework, i don't wear the trousers, yadayadaya

I posted like 3 times in 2 (realtime) days before you challenged me. If you think I gave up because you yolo-duelled me, think again. i wasn't even playing. because i don't care to play as mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 23:04 GMT
#7970
On January 14 2015 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't want to lynch LM today. He's been improving recently and I share his suspicions on GB.

they're mafia together, LM would just love to sit back and watch and end up voting me instead of GB because yeah.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 13 2015 23:19 GMT
#7985
On January 14 2015 08:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm sorry Artanis, but I have to go to bed. I have done what I can to kill GB but there simply isn't enough traction to get him killed.

Also, Damdred is a really bad lynch. Anyone who is voting him really need to justify how he could push superbia so hard D2, and not be scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: marvellosity

you are 1 billion percent mafia for how you've dealt with tonight

##vote: lazermonkey
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 00:59 GMT
#8058
hi. I'd really rather not vote for Palmar to save myself. We probably shouldn't be lynching Palmar even though he seems to disregard me each time i rebuff his points, and we definitely shouldn't be lynching marv.

We should be lynching LM. Look at what he did tonight - halfheartedly pushing GB, while always spectating and never wading into the arguments. He's quite willing to vote me on not very much and it's pretty out the blue, like he just ditched anything that came before and made an opportunistic vote.

It's pretty much that he didn't know what to do or say, and couldn't handle what was happening in the thread, and basically didn't handle it at al
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 01:02 GMT
#8063
he fits it perfectly in your regard.

also what i said.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 01:04 GMT
#8067
you should get off your stubborn horse plam. go actually read lazer's posts this evening
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 01:05 GMT
#8068
On January 14 2015 10:04 Palmar wrote:
I'm sorely tempted to just flip a coin.

i call tails
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 01:05 GMT
#8070
i really can't believe i have 36 pages of filter and you're trying to lynch me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 01:06 GMT
#8071
On January 14 2015 10:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 10:04 marvellosity wrote:
you should get off your stubborn horse plam. go actually read lazer's posts this evening

we have a deadline in like 5 hours.

I'm going to sleep. I'm not reading any more

THERE'S NOT MANY. That's the good thing!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 01:08 GMT
#8076
On January 14 2015 10:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 10:05 marvellosity wrote:
i really can't believe i have 36 pages of filter and you're trying to lynch me

I have 21 pages which might actually be a record for me.

And people still think I might be mafia.

funny that...

hmm?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 10:20 GMT
#8429
so we lynched Palmar... ok. Now to find out how it happened.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 11:00 GMT
#8433
uh huh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 11:02 GMT
#8434
have a g&t dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 11:16 GMT
#8436
you're cute. but no.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 12:19 GMT
#8437
On January 14 2015 11:03 Vivax wrote:
He's in the scum or very very bad pile now

the deep, overwhelming irony
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 12:31 GMT
#8439
On January 14 2015 12:13 Vivax wrote:
I'll vote Palmar, cause if he flips town I can finally lynch marv.

no, because you were voting to kill a townie over the wagon that said townie and sexymarv were on. The one not on a townie, that is.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 12:38 GMT
#8440
On January 14 2015 12:57 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:58 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm going to bed pretty soon. Maybe I can set alarm for lynch but I can't guarantee that. We really should consolidate though. Aim for only 2 candidates to chose between. Otherwise scum votes are much more powerful (relatively speaking). I think geript should die, but am willing to kill Chyz and maybe Vivax also. I'd prefer to keep Vivax untill tomorrow since he came into the thread relatively late.


I think this point is super townie and what I usually think as town

it's incredibly easy to write that sort of stuff as mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 12:47 GMT
#8441
if sicklucker is mafia, i'm going to be amazed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 12:49 GMT
#8443
GB, tell me how you'd expect Damdred to be dealing with you this game, in a way that he isn't. You keep repeating it but either I've missed what he's "supposed" to be doing, or you've not really explained
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 12:50 GMT
#8445
On January 14 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay everyone, repeat after me.
Artanis and Vivax are scum
Marvellosity is clear town
It would be such a shame if we wouldn't have confirmed town Marvellosity here tomorrow.

... okayyy ....
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 13:00 GMT
#8446
On January 14 2015 21:50 Damdred wrote:
Everyone read what I wrote please and comment.

The eod was insane, SL was really scummy. Even his rebuttal right now is throwing dirt on people

Explain to me in like a few sentences, because i just started glazing over when Vivax started shouting about it :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 13:07 GMT
#8449
On January 14 2015 22:05 Damdred wrote:
People are trying to convince me to vote palmar since its 3-4 with vivax about to move. SL up and foes I'm going to vote lm instead, invites so palmar loses tie breaker when he gets back on. Seemed like he was trying to save palmar, and then at the end he invited palmar and chose to hammer palmar instead of lm who he calls town now

ok so tell me why he can't do this as town?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 13:13 GMT
#8451
so having spent the whole game with a reasonably ironclad reason for him being town for his claim, as mafia he voluntarily opens the door on himself? why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 13:18 GMT
#8453
do I take "conceivable" like your "definitely possible" earlier in the game, or do you, yourself, think it's an explanation with a decent likelihood?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 13:22 GMT
#8455
i'm asking you, not asking you to decide for me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 13:23 GMT
#8456
On January 14 2015 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
if sicklucker is mafia, i'm going to be amazed

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 13:29 GMT
#8459
we should still lynch LM first, Kels, even if you're bang on
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 13:37 GMT
#8462
ez game for you then bro
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 14:24 GMT
#8467
On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.

you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.

Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day?

Is this the crux of it?

The simple answer would seem to be ritoky wasn't getting lynched d2, he was d3...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 14:31 GMT
#8471
by my count, ritoky had 5 votes before he claimed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 14:46 GMT
#8474
On January 07 2015 19:07 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote ritoky

On January 08 2015 01:52 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Ritoky

On January 08 2015 04:47 Palmar wrote:
##vote Ritoky

On January 08 2015 05:05 Lazermonkey wrote:
##vote: ritoky



On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote:
let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote:
le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me.


ok out your checks then bro


DrH n1 was green
SL n2 was green

i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red.

fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 14 2015 14:48 GMT
#8477
On January 14 2015 23:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Damdred, my sleep shortaged brain does not comprehend. Please explain again. Are you saying it doesn't make sense for SL to be town because ritoky would've cced him too if he were?

Wouldn't it just make sense that ritoky made a play to try and save Superbia?

this doesn't make sense either because superbia never did anything to save himself
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 14 2015 15:00 GMT
#8486
impossibru.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:23 GMT
#8535
On January 15 2015 05:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 05:25 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2015 05:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi,

I'll be here for a short while. Got an exam on friday though so I can't do too much right now.

Now, without having read much, we are at MYLO now, right? 6 townies atm, going to be 5 after the night. The correct play tomorrow should therefore be a nolynch, right?


Well you should read much. You just evaded a lynch, that much you know, what about all the rest? Can you at least read the last 20 pages?

Yep, I am reading right now. I'm at 403 now. I'm like 97% sure that marv is scum at this point. Look at his filter, he doesn't care about killing scum. Not untill I vote him when he goes full fucking OMGUS. Like, look at the post he votes me at. Why does he vote me in response to me? Its an insanely oppertunistic vote.

Like if you think I'm scum for not being able to post every 10 minutes, then lynch me and lose this game. But most players should know that this is not the case. ESPECIALLY marv.

Firstly, I love to kill players who are trying to kill me. But that's by the by.

I explained later on, funny that you use the word "opportunistic" there

at no point did I say "LM is mafia because of activity" or the like
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 14 2015 21:26 GMT
#8538
On January 15 2015 05:39 Vivax wrote:
Well if LM is scum and I killed my townread to lynch marv who then is fuck knows what, then I will hang myself by the balls after this game.

oh
my
god

are we getting somewhere??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:28 GMT
#8542
On January 15 2015 06:27 sicklucker wrote:
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On January 15 2015 04:29 Damdred wrote:
On January 15 2015 04:24 Vivax wrote:
Ok seems believable and you remembered really quickly.
You go into the townpile now.

So, marv, SL and Kelsier? Need to reevaluate if Kelsier's + SL interactions are scum-scum cause yesterday SL said he was under pressure from Kelsier so sounds like a odd thing for a scum to say about his scumbuddy. Could make sense if it was a set up thing though, and Kelsier's latest posts look totally disengaged from the game.


I'm not sure do you think its impossible for say LM and SL to be mafia together?


I dont think its possible for me to be mafia and a town you should realize this...

"it's definitely possible"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:29 GMT
#8544
On January 15 2015 06:19 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 15 2015 06:18 KelsierSC wrote:
Massive slip from lm .

Lynch him or Viv tomorrow

How was that a slip even? It was just a really stupid brainfart lol.

Like whats the motive in trying to lie about GB defending Palmar, especially when its so fucking easily disproved...

you're right, there's no motive. I'll give you that.

mafia find it much harder to keep the narrative of the game up though, because half of it is made up
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:32 GMT
#8547
On January 15 2015 06:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 15 2015 06:23 marvellosity wrote:
On January 15 2015 05:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 15 2015 05:25 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2015 05:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi,

I'll be here for a short while. Got an exam on friday though so I can't do too much right now.

Now, without having read much, we are at MYLO now, right? 6 townies atm, going to be 5 after the night. The correct play tomorrow should therefore be a nolynch, right?


Well you should read much. You just evaded a lynch, that much you know, what about all the rest? Can you at least read the last 20 pages?

Yep, I am reading right now. I'm at 403 now. I'm like 97% sure that marv is scum at this point. Look at his filter, he doesn't care about killing scum. Not untill I vote him when he goes full fucking OMGUS. Like, look at the post he votes me at. Why does he vote me in response to me? Its an insanely oppertunistic vote.

Like if you think I'm scum for not being able to post every 10 minutes, then lynch me and lose this game. But most players should know that this is not the case. ESPECIALLY marv.

Firstly, I love to kill players who are trying to kill me. But that's by the by.

I explained later on, funny that you use the word "opportunistic" there

at no point did I say "LM is mafia because of activity" or the like

You say you think both me and GB are scum. Then nothing. Then nothing. Then I vote you, then you go "GOTTA KILL THAT LAZORGUY, TOTES SCUM". That is opportunistic. I also said earlier how I was suspicious of you and that I was going to vote you if the GB lynch wasn't happening. Yet its only AFTER I drop my vote and go to bed, that you jump on me.

Whats the town motive for not pushin your scum read?

I was already suspicious of you for sitting on the sidelines and vaguely sniping. I think I may have made a post to that end.

Then I was waiting to see what you'd do with your vote to confirm what i was thinking, and hey presto!
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 14 2015 21:34 GMT
#8553
although tbh lazer, it hangs together best if GB is mafia with you, and with Palmar flipping town that becomes even more likely, so you can buy an extra day with me maybe?
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:35 GMT
#8556
On January 15 2015 06:35 Lazermonkey wrote:
For everyone who still doubts marv being scum: He is still alive.

have you seen the (retarded) suspicion being pushed on me this game? no?
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:41 GMT
#8565
On January 15 2015 06:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 15 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:35 Lazermonkey wrote:
For everyone who still doubts marv being scum: He is still alive.

have you seen the (retarded) suspicion being pushed on me this game? no?

Don't pretend like you've been some sort of universal scum read this game. Of course there has been times where people have been pushing you, but apart from yesterday, you've never even been close to getting lynched.

I'm not pretending anything, but the people who died have had little to no chance of being lynched. this is weak.

how d'ya like my GB proposal, how does that sit with you, hmm?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:47 GMT
#8576
On January 15 2015 06:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 15 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:35 Lazermonkey wrote:
For everyone who still doubts marv being scum: He is still alive.

have you seen the (retarded) suspicion being pushed on me this game? no?

Don't pretend like you've been some sort of universal scum read this game. Of course there has been times where people have been pushing you, but apart from yesterday, you've never even been close to getting lynched.

I'm not pretending anything, but the people who died have had little to no chance of being lynched. this is weak.

how d'ya like my GB proposal, how does that sit with you, hmm?

Yhea but they aren't you. You are highly respected, and for a good reason, you are a very good player. The chance of you getting shot and, say Eden, getting shot is not the same.

I think GB is a nice kill though.

quick bit of maths: I've only been killed N1 in about 1/5 of my towngames.

and tbh the other days are quite a bit more obvious to explain
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:48 GMT
#8577
GB can you answer me re: my question about Damdred's push/attitude towards you pls

thank you for your cooperation
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:51 GMT
#8583
On January 15 2015 06:49 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 15 2015 06:47 marvellosity wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote:
On January 15 2015 06:35 Lazermonkey wrote:
For everyone who still doubts marv being scum: He is still alive.

have you seen the (retarded) suspicion being pushed on me this game? no?

Don't pretend like you've been some sort of universal scum read this game. Of course there has been times where people have been pushing you, but apart from yesterday, you've never even been close to getting lynched.

I'm not pretending anything, but the people who died have had little to no chance of being lynched. this is weak.

how d'ya like my GB proposal, how does that sit with you, hmm?

Yhea but they aren't you. You are highly respected, and for a good reason, you are a very good player. The chance of you getting shot and, say Eden, getting shot is not the same.

I think GB is a nice kill though.

quick bit of maths: I've only been killed N1 in about 1/5 of my towngames.

and tbh the other days are quite a bit more obvious to explain

how many games are you alive untill D5 though?

Few. but it does happen. usually when i get suspicion pushed on me go to the database and you'll see some "survived" and "endgamed" and what have you
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 14 2015 21:52 GMT
#8584
yeah i don't think lian is mafia this game sl, his filter contains no scumslips
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#8587
which bit? am confused
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#8588
On January 15 2015 06:56 liancourt wrote:

Announcement


Just a little announcement.

Today will be a bit different.

Night Kill flip will be at 02:00 GMT (+00:00) which is in .

And Day 6 will end 48hrs from the flip.

Happy scum hunting.

^ definitely town
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 22:00 GMT
#8591
well it doesn't make sl mafia, that's all i can tell you

your logic is right but meh
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marvellosity
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January 14 2015 22:01 GMT
#8592
On January 15 2015 06:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
Will maybe check one of those games, marv.

But not today.

well check or don't check, i was just pointing out their existence
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 10:26 GMT
#8881
On January 15 2015 18:53 sicklucker wrote:
Marv where are you. Im really going to kill you if you dont go all out on mylo

got to work recently, got some pages to catch up on

fair warning to everyone btw, I have a chess match this evening and my dad's birthday tomorrow, so will try play hard at work where i can
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 10:30 GMT
#8882
On January 15 2015 08:44 Vivax wrote:
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On January 15 2015 08:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Ugh...i don't see that as him calling you town then mafia


Then give us a better interpretation.

townies call themselves town for shit they do all the time, and the trolliness thing you mentioned is meh, it fits sl's general profile just fine
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 10:31 GMT
#8883
On January 15 2015 08:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On January 15 2015 08:47 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2015 08:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 15 2015 08:43 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2015 08:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
GB prob town for effort alone.


Thought that too but I think he's wrong on Dam

If we eliminate Dam I'm left with Marv/Kelsier/LM/maybe SL.
I guess I need to stop procrastinating from that SL stuff. Here we go.


Welcome to the club.
So let's club them.

Question: Did you see marv try to solve the game with the new information tonight?

He seems to have a clear suspicion of LM which he's not been pushing much yet. It is troubling.

????????????
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 10:42 GMT
#8884
On January 15 2015 09:12 Vivax wrote:
Ok, so here we go:

[image loading]

I don' think LM is lying when he says he has exams and can't play properly. But he's scum, which is why we witnessed so much brain farting when I questioned him.

He told his scumbuddies that he's scum, and that he won't have time to play and said "Pls, bus me cause I can't try harder than this".

Now I go into a hypothetical world where SL is town. He's just a town who says a ton of dumb shit that makes me scumread him everytime. Kels softed cop D1, and he was actually right when he said that LM scumslipped he was scum with super. But the Vivax I am, who doesn't care about filter size and has trouble distingishing bad from scum, I keep pushing him thinking he's scum while in fact he's just the next JAT.

So marv and Kelsier agreed. They would push the wagon on him, grab a shitton of cred, and carry their team to victory.

Now it's night. I found another load of reasons to push SL with. But scum can't push him. They can't push him cause they will need an ally tomorrow, after they NK Artanis and push the lynch on me. GB is somewhat doing his own thing with Damdred, and Damdred is basically my ally. Plenty of room for the next mislynch. They can push Damdred, they can push me.

That's why Kelsier shows absolutely zero suspicion on SL, and instead tries to win his favour by defending him and trying to discredit me.

That's why marv keeps silent. He doesn't need to do a thing if SL is indeed town. He just sits back and enjoys, waiting for the opportunity to strike while I keep pushing a townie. They will probably lose LM at some point, probably tomorrow, but afterwards, Chez will side with Kelsier and marv cause of the palmar lynch he didn't want, and GB will probably accept the theory that I'm scum with Damdred and be willing to lynch either of us.

Capiche? That's basically a possible scenario. I guarantee you. Marv will never die on a night this game. Marv isn't trying to solve this game. He's just setting up the stage to win the game for scum.

So, according to this theory where I assume SL is scum. The team left is: Kelsier, marv, LM

I'm going to humour you a bit here Vivax, because, well, it's lylo and I guess I should.

"that's why marv keeps silent" - silent on what? I think I've been abundantly clear on sl's alignment, so silent on what?

Actually that's literally all that I can quibble from the entire post. Why? Because it's speculation that can both have no confirmation, nor retort.

I mean, "That's basically a possible scenario". You can invent any possible scenario. This is like Artanis' "definitely possible" earlier in the game, it's meaningless because it's unsubstantiated in any regard
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 10:44 GMT
#8885
to add, perhaps Kelsier says sl is town because he has a townread on him for fairly obvious reasons.

That's basically a possible scenario, right?
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 10:46 GMT
#8886
On January 15 2015 09:13 KelsierSC wrote:
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On January 15 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which leaves me squarely at a Marv/Kelsier/LM team by POE.


Where Marv and I vote lm last night and afk?

hold me
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 10:51 GMT
#8887
On January 15 2015 09:24 Vivax wrote:
Now it's up to Chez, GB, Damdred and SL to do the rest.

I don't count myself cause I don't have the marv wizardry to be able to begull the thread, which earns him a 90 % scum winrate

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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 10:56 GMT
#8888
On January 15 2015 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Ok answer this, what scummy thing have I done ?

I read sl as town, you ask me why I don't instantly scumread him and I tell you why.
Because right now your theory is that two mafia voted on the third and then left and that everyone who voted on palmar was town.

Top theory, isn't it?

I literally explicitly say shortly before I sleep that I don't want to have to vote Palmar to save myself and tell people to get on LM instead, when I could easily have left the Palmar wagon trundling along without taking a stance like that. I'm playing with some bloody unnecessary fire if sl actually followed through on my advice

Sense, make it not does.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 15 2015 10:59 GMT
#8889
I should probably try consolidate or i'll be here all day
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 11:17 GMT
#8890
On January 15 2015 10:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On January 15 2015 10:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 15 2015 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 15 2015 10:24 KelsierSC wrote:
So just to Math this out.

In this situation where a town got mislynched. Tomorrow its 5 vs 3 and mafia can win that day with a mislynch.

If lazer was lynched yesterday and he is mafia. Then tomorrow it is 6 town vs 2 mafia. If mislynch then it goes to 4 town and 2 mafia and mafia will require another mislynch and a day to win the game.

If you want to explain why mafia adds an extra day and tries to get 2 mislynches in a row with less people then go ahead.

There's a few bobs and screws left that I don't fully understand myself. That is one of them. My best guess is that you felt the bus would get you enough cred to make this argument. Had Lazer lynched Marv, Lazer would have a great chance of surviving the entire game. Same goes to a lesser extent for you and Marv on LM. It's sacrificing time for a better shot at winning at endgame.


You think mafia do all this, have an extra day make extra night kills to give town info all for vote cred, and have to get 2 mislynches.
When instead they can just get a town lynched and then win the next day by convincing 1 member of town to vote with them.

Like I said, I'm not entirely happy with the explanation, but eh. Marv not leading a lynch on mafia throughout this game would get to him, so I can see him trying, and at that point you may as well join in to add to the cred.

Basically Marv would be super screwed if he led/was part of a wagon that lynched town today if he were scum. It'd be possible to sac Marv and just go full on Palmar, but he's had a 38 page game so I doubt he'd be willing to do so.

This is all wrong and isn't how I think about playing mafia at all. As mafia I pretty much always expect to die soon. I remember Hero Mafia that Vivax brought up as some silly argument about something at some stage - go read the scumQT there and see how often I prophesize my own demise. I would *absolutely*, as mafia, put myself in a terrible spot to lynch Palmar and leave the rest of my team with only one more ML to secure between them after I die. That's basic, good strategy and probably my absolute best asset as scum is strategising.

Palmar and I basically both agree that the only way high profile players can play mafia is to try to secure as many ML as possible before inevitably dying. Me and you have talked a lot about how I think about/play scum, Artanis. You know this!

What actually happened is, I didn't want to vote Palmar to save myself, I explicitly said so, and I explicitly told people to vote for mafia instead. Fin.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 15 2015 11:27 GMT
#8893
active? what do you think i'm doing right now bbygrl. i can't be active when i'm not here though ^^
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 11:30 GMT
#8894
On January 15 2015 20:23 sicklucker wrote:
So marv do you agree with artanis that vivax is town. Or can he be a tryhard mafia here?

he should be town, but then again one of my main tasks for today needs to be to find the mafia in amongst my townreads
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 11:40 GMT
#8895
On January 15 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm convinced.

I'm voting LM tomorrow.

One thing is certain: they wanted to keep ritoky alive.
And if they wanted to keep ritoky alive, is that because they would want to try to keep his cop claim untouched.

It means they didn't know who the cop was.

It means they thought someone else was the cop.

I have to figure out who.

none of this makes sense, only one or two idiots at most thought that ritoky could plausibly be cop. Everyone else knew he wasn't
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 15 2015 11:47 GMT
#8896
On January 15 2015 10:38 GlowingBear wrote:
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On January 15 2015 10:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 15 2015 10:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 15 2015 10:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 15 2015 10:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, this needs to be explained, if you believe LM is part of the scum team.


On January 08 2015 14:50 liancourt wrote:
I Count this vote sons


ritoky (5): sicklucker, marvellosity, sicklucker, vivax, glowingbear, palmar, lazermonkey, vivax, Marvellosity, GlowingBear, IAmRobik, Palmar, Lazermonkey
vivax (0): sicklucker, Chezinu, GlowingBear, Ritoky
marvellosity (): Palmar
Lazermonkey (): KelsierSC, vivax
Superbia (6): KelsierSC, Artanis[Xp], Chezinu, sicklucker, Damdred, Lazermonkey
sicklucker (): GlowingBear, vivax, vivax
glowingbear (): IAmRobik
Palmar (): IAmRobik, GlowingBear
Damdred (): Palmar, lazermonkey
IAmRobik (2): ritoky, Superbia

Superbia is lynched.



I see two scum wagons. What needs to be explained about this?


If they knew Robik was the cop, why keeping ritoky alive just to be auto lunched the next day?

I don't know if they knew Robik was the cop.


After his hard claim??
C'mon.

On January 15 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm convinced.

I'm voting LM tomorrow.

One thing is certain: they wanted to keep ritoky alive.
And if they wanted to keep ritoky alive, is that because they would want to try to keep his cop claim untouched.

It means they didn't know who the cop was.

It means they thought someone else was the cop.

I have to figure out who.

ehhhhhhhhhh
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 11:48 GMT
#8897
GB pretty much fitting arguments as convenient there.
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:21 GMT
#8902
On January 15 2015 11:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On January 15 2015 11:23 Vivax wrote:
I'm lynching Kelsier before LM.

I'm okay with this too. I chose the lynch last time, I'll sheep you this time.
##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC

no, no, no. Apart from anything else, look at the bloody lynches we'd have had this game if we let Vivax choose........
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:26 GMT
#8904
by his own criterion, he is mafia :p
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:28 GMT
#8905
On January 15 2015 11:49 sicklucker wrote:
Like I believe ksc most of what he says makes sense. Hes mafia mvp if he is

mmhmm
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:29 GMT
#8906
On January 15 2015 11:53 sicklucker wrote:
we can lynch marv if he doesint try really really hard today and spew town. I think thats the better play hes known to concede as mafia...

see: yesterday
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:30 GMT
#8907
On January 15 2015 12:05 sicklucker wrote:
So I went ok gb im going to ask a question if you dont ask answer it within 2 minutes im going to asume your mafia.

The qeustion - what is the name of your vt role.

His answer highway ##

I looked at the flips and I think eden was the same highway ##

On page 1 the list 13 of mostly vt (1confirmed mafia) is listed where a mafia would have to go and steal one of those to answer the qeustion.

So either slam made 2 highway## vt roles or gb is mafia

I can confirm with my own role that this does not make GB mafia. Even though he is. But not for that.
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:33 GMT
#8908
maybe I'm miller actually but that's just speculation
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:38 GMT
#8909
as in, I'm not just speculating that for zero reason but I have the same highway as jat. Seems a bit simplistic though
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:46 GMT
#8910
On January 15 2015 18:24 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Sicklucker


Artanis (and maybe Vivax), I don't see how you can not have this guy in your team. This vote reeks of desperation... like I would *kind of*, maybe, understand it at a different stage in the game but you'd both backed off your paranoia of sl with pretty solid reasons why sl was town (beyond the obvious), namely the number of mafia that would be pushing the fakeclaim for no reason
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#8911
Lazer is super reluctant to push Kelsier and I'm not exactly sure why. Esp. as Kelsier has been pushing him for a long time
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 13:13 GMT
#8913
On January 15 2015 22:11 sicklucker wrote:
so is this marv world? Let me get this straight

town
Me
artanis
vivax
ksc

Dandred?

mafia
gb
Lm

marv
sl
art

kels
damd
vivax

lm
gb

I have to find the mafia in the middle tier i think
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marvellosity
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January 15 2015 13:19 GMT
#8916
On January 15 2015 22:15 sicklucker wrote:
Arg like I want to live in your world because that means I have been right all game. But maybe ive been wrong? Artanis seems to think so

Artanis isn't god. I mean I know my own alignment so I come from a privileged position that I can't really expect you just to take for granted, but I'm not really sure how or why GB is supposed to be town in this situation, it more looks like Artanis created a (plausible i guess) scenario and fitted the pieces in, without at least looking individually.

you know it yourself that i tried to push off palmar yesterday, when i went to bed and told people not to lynch palmar i thought that would mean town wouldn't, and leaving a Palmar who's hardpushing me alive is *so fucking stupid* if I'm mafia. And i'm not fucking stupid.

kels pushed against it with me and pushed off the Palmar lynch and has been correctly been calling me town, so I'm quite biased in favour of him.

The problem is i think i have pretty good reasons to call everyone in the middle tier town, just in one case the reasons aren't good enough
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 15 2015 13:20 GMT
#8917
On January 15 2015 22:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I love how you skip all the things I wrote about sicklucker's forced reactions and how you skipped the huge post I've made on damdred, who keeps silent whenever he isn't the push

what you wrote on sl is just bullshit narrative
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 15 2015 13:26 GMT
#8919
it doesn't matter, it pays for mafia to have suspicion anywhere at lylo, especially as he doesn't seem to be under pressure much today (?!)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 15 2015 13:28 GMT
#8920
need to actually do some work, back a bit later
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 15 2015 13:29 GMT
#8922
saying something doesn't make it so, GB. sry.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 15 2015 13:29 GMT
#8923
basically means Damdred is very unlikely to be mafia because he doesn't fit in with you/LM at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 15 2015 13:35 GMT
#8929
On January 15 2015 22:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 22:29 marvellosity wrote:
saying something doesn't make it so, GB. sry.


Yes it makes, because you're ignoring every town trait I have in this game just to try and make me scum.

You've done nothing since day1 marv. DP had suspicions on you. You kept saying that I am scum but never ever tried to get me lynched. Instead, YOLO voted for lazermonkey.

You have all the reasons to be scum. Your filter size argument is boring because every other aspect of your gameplay here makes you scum.

Twisty twisty. Like, good for DP? Try to sweep away the ritoky lynch/claim I pushed and the Palmar ml you pushed against my instructions all you like.

I voted for Lazermonkey because of how he dealt with the shitfest that was going on (ergo he didn't, he sat and watched), while semi-pushing you and plumped his vote on what looked like the leading town ml (me).

I'm not "trying to make" anyone mafia, in fact the opposite, but the reasons i have for you being town are so much weaker than for other people.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#9150
er.......

well i lost my chess match so i'm in a foul mood, and this vote count doesn't help.

still, tomorrow is plenty of time.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 15 2015 23:18 GMT
#9157
before i go, i'm going to have to go all-in on kels being town and vote with whoever he votes, else all is lost

which i'm sure the rest of you will enjoy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:11 GMT
#9469
On January 17 2015 00:45 Vivax wrote:
Now I just need marv to walk in here and help me, provided he's not scum with art and Kels.

I'm not killing Kelsier. I'm just not.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:15 GMT
#9472
I don't even care what he did on D1 with regards to ritoky. I don't see the mafia motivation in him defending me and you're going to lose the game by lynching him almost as certainly as you'll lose it by lynching me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:16 GMT
#9473
like how can I call my only supporter mafia, i just can't. lol.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:18 GMT
#9475
which one of LM and GB voted me first? that one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:19 GMT
#9477
if someone can precis the last 20 pages or so for me to save time, that would be swell
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:20 GMT
#9479
I see KSC hasn't posted today, it's kind of a shame I didn't get to see his reactions to me not being here until now, that's kinda sucky.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:24 GMT
#9484
I literally do not know how to find 3 mafia. Like I'm super quickly skimming filters atm to try to save time and just get impressions.

Vivax has a 49 page filter now? Like yesterday (despite the fact i did not say it) i thought Vivax had to be 3rd mafia because no-one else could be. But more than anyone else he seems to be trying to solve the game in lylo. If he is mafia that's a phenomenal effort.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:25 GMT
#9485
by my own metric, marv/LM/Kelsier is the mafia-team, and that's kinda unfortunate.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:26 GMT
#9488
no, not got time for cases.

I really wanted just to say fuck all you fucking jubjubs for lynching me at lylo, but annoyingly I decided I couldn't just throw the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:27 GMT
#9489
On January 17 2015 01:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
by my own metric, marv/LM/Kelsier is the mafia-team, and that's kinda unfortunate.


Funny, it's just the theory me and Artanis posted last night where we ninjaed each other.

Based purely on activity in LYLO, rather than anything more sophisticated and clever.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:28 GMT
#9490
On January 17 2015 01:21 Vivax wrote:
Ok, so need to roll out the LM/Marv/Kelsier theory up again as I currently don't think GB is mafia. Back to rereading.

tell me why please
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:30 GMT
#9492
well I guess I decided I should play now. Then again Kelsier seems like a real risky lynch to me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:32 GMT
#9494
On January 16 2015 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:
There are few games played by Kelsier, but comparing a scum game from a town game, here is what it looks like:

Town Kelsier is marked by aggressiveness

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC&page=12

I've played Guilty Mini Mafia with him and he was extremely aggressive. It was his FIRST game and his stances were really clear. Whoever read him as scum was promptly answered with a hostile post. Also, his posts seems a bit more extensive when town. Check these posts:

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 22:22 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2014 22:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 26 2014 20:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2014 20:18 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 20:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2014 20:11 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2014 20:06 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 20:02 KelsierSC wrote:
[quote]

meh that wasn't how I viewed it, they both switched onto robik with only about 30 seconds left and then you switched after them. Like I said the vote doesn't clear you at all. You basically just voted the other lynch target that wasn't yourself to avoid death. The fact that this has been explained multiple times to you but you still think it clears you as town is baffling.


I don't think it necessarily clears me, as I already explained that I don't fully agree with Damdred's view of the situation. I think it was too chaotic to know the outcome for sure. I'm just saying that as scum I would have taken the risk of keeping my vote on yamato (Robik was GF and not really suspected until then, so he'd have better chances of staying alive and winning at LYLO - especially if he got a green Cop check or something). At least it should slightly improve your image of me. Not that it hugely matters to me what you think at this point since you're extremely tunneled.


He was suspected he had the majority of the votes when you switched


It wasn't based on a case or anything though. Just a coinflip because it felt like both me and yamato could be town.


You had no real credibility you think in the remaining 20 seconds you make a powerful post that takes them back off Robik and onto yam. be real. it was 4 robik 3 on you when you switched, stop trying to use the votes for credibility it just makes you scummier.


Whatever, I'm fine not talking about this topic. So you think Onegu is the best lynch today? Can you convince everyone of that? Because just voting him doesn't do that much.


Sure I will lay down my reasoning.

(A) At this point the vote has to be between VA and Onegu.

I explained my reasons why the claim is genuine.
1)He was in a position where he did not have to fake claim.
2) He had easier outs if he was fake claiming
3) no CC

Then I look at the people pushing this vote. (C)Hapa is a likely SK candidate, he wants to get rid of town at the moment. Xata is scummy as fuck and wants to ML town. (D)GB and turtle I don't think they are reading the game very well at all.

I (E) wonder how deep WoS analysed the claim, he said the claim was bad mainly because VA didn't use the cop role, if you look past that though WoS you can see that no mafia would claim this strangely.

All of that is in defence of the VA is the PR.

So then we come to Onegu. He showed up when people were scum reading rayn and threw some other dogshit onto the fire along with...wait it was Hapa and Xat again. obviously the reads were horse shit as rayn flipped VT. Then he disappears at the time he disappears I think the pressure was on rayn and then on yamato so he had no reason to interject as town was going to ML somehow.

So for Onegu he had a bad, BW read on town. . He disappeared when it appeared town was going down a bad path.


A) I don't get why you assume one of they will be lynched. Easy targets. Are you trying to force us to believe we should lynch onegu?
B) There was no easier out. If he claimed cop, he would be easily counter claimed by a possible cop. Who the hell would counter claim such a rare role as JOAT?
C) Lol so you're hunting the SK instead of mafia, it seems. He probably is because he is not in your mafia qt right?
D) you're trying to discredit our gameplay a lot. We are surely not playing this game well and I said that already, but when people talk about us they are trying to tell you that we are confirmed townies so it's easier to believe in our reads than to believe in someone suspicious. You're trying to discredit too much our gameplay. Is that because you're mafia and we were on the right path?
E) This "no mafia would do" isn't good. Check my Arnie's game.

##Vote: KelsierSC

You're mafia.


Yeh you are fucking retarded or you just don't read properly.

Va or Onegu are the targets for the lynch, they seemed scummy and inactive D1, they were not there for deadline , they seemed happy to let town wonder, they did not vote on robik.

He can claim JoaT and say he checked rayn during the night. Like I have said this multiple times.

I am not "hunting" SK, but my top town don't trust Hapa I can believe he is the SK and I don't think SK would be wise to try and lynch mafia at this point. I KNOW SK DOES NOT KNOW if Va is mafia, but if sk is voting for VA it is more likely he thinks VA is town than mafia.

Your gameplay has been bad in my opinion. In the night you read rayn and me as scum, rayn flipped town and it is fairly obvious I am town. I don't even know what you are doing today.

firstly you think VA is mafia, then I hard defend VA. so you unvote Va thinking he is legit now and then say I am mafia?

If I am mafia I would just push on VA. you have no logic which is why I continue to think your gameplay is bad.

I don't check old games sorry, your logic in THIS GAME is just flawed



Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 22:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2014 22:43 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 26 2014 22:38 KelsierSC wrote:
Also

firstly you think VA is mafia, then I hard defend VA. so you unvote Va thinking he is legit now and then say I am mafia?

If I am mafia I would just push on VA. you have no logic which is why I continue to think your gameplay is bad.


I guess you didn't read this part or the other stuff I wrote that explains my reasons and blows your argument out the water.


If you're mafia you know he will be useless for now on as you probably have a roleblocker and you can always kill the confirmed town by night. It's more beneficial to mafia now to force a mislynch Onegu (as it looked like you were doing considering your post) and nullify a confirmed and useless (on reads) confirmed town by night.

And as you're mafia, you KNOW he is town. Easy to hard defend him.


I don't think you can ever consider what I am doing as "trying to force a ML on Onegu", I gave solid reasons why he is scum none of my reasoning was flawed.

If i "push" on onegu and he is town that reflects badly on me. If I just quietly vote on VA with the rest of town and he dies then there is no suspicion on me at all because everyone thought he was mafia. I think I was the first person to hard defend VA and his claim. I had no reasons for this.

It is painful when confirmed town is this shit tier.




Mafia Kelsier is marked by relaxation and strong townreads

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=KelsierSC&page=14

Fifth post of his filter:

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 00:36 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats and Oats are both town to me, "Bats trap" seems like a good town angle to me, I don't think Oats is faking frustration and it feels town to me.
Ala is town, I like how he pointed out how HF just stepped in and started flinging shit.
Grack seems really jokey and happy and posting a lot so probably town.
.

I don't like HF because of the aforementioned reason and the early vote just felt like he was totally misreading the thread.

On October 06 2014 22:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Morning guys. We need to liven this place up a bit. Who's ready for some FOOTBALL?

@batsnacks how sure are you that you've caught mafia there...?


I also really didn't like this at all. I think it was such a meaningless and stupid question that no one bothered to respond to it. it just felt like a question to ask to appear active and buddy someone.



It's the fifth post and he has already got townreads over bad reasons. See that he isn't that aggressive in this post either. Calls people town, but HF is just "weird".

Also, look at the bolded on these next quotes. They are similar to some excuses Kelsier brings to the game:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 14 2014 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
I made it clear I thought OO was scum after he just abandoned the thread. Was there a really huge push by anyone d1 of any consequence. you pushed on lian, yep. can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

Palmar came into the thread really late and I gave a pretty hard scum read of him, I also gave good reasons why liam is mafia, some of them you included in your big post. but I am not going to push a lynch on someone and maybe ML when it is clear OO is mafia.

I wasn't directing pressure away. at the time bh came in with his RNG I really felt it was disruptive to the thread. I don't see how that makes me scummy if I get annoyed when town gets disrupted.

and this obi thing is just silly, he was scummy, lots of town agreed with me. I led a push on him. I didn't just sit back or switch to an easier target.


On October 15 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Slammed at work today, will make my case tonight.

my reads haven't changed, slam is still mafia I think palmar is poisoner.
given obi is cop. I imagine he checked hf n1 and then n2 he checked someone who died and that is why he didn't reveal.
maybe bh was a good check for him. Either way i think the only relevant thing from obi being cop is that he called hf clear town.

for palmar he kind of lurked and didn't contribute until d3 and that point his agenda was to kill hf and then wanting the medic to come out. Didn't agree with the logic. I don't like how he has such a strong town read on me. Yeh ive played a town game but my reads have been off considering i wanted to vote obi.

for slam, what bugs me is that he admits the mafia is between him and me, then he proceeds to vote on dam, why, does he think dam is poisoner, i don't see how anyone can have that belief , again it just seemed like he wanted to lunch anyone that wasn't him. He also spoke nonsense for two days and was happy to vote obi because bh was doing it. I don't like his reasons. His play yesterday was illogical and he seemed to be wanting to cover his tracks. He was happy to be on a hf is psnr wagon with palmar, why isn't he concerned that palmar is suddenly alive and pushing the lynch on hf.
he said "i think palmar and hf are both right" but they were saying different things.
then you look at his votes and it doesn't look good either.

i will make a case with quotes etc tonight, but csnt really do it in my phone.

as for me. Ive been less active last day and night phase but i was still figuring out the game and did some excellent analysis on palmar being poisoner which people just ignored. The main scum read on me is i voted obi. I explained i found him scummy however it is not true that i jumped on a wagon ,.i led the push beginning d2 i had excellent reasons for it.

tldr palmar psnr, slam mafia

all of GB's meta cases are shit-tier.

Seriously the way he introduces townreads in Carol and the way Kelsier introduces them here simply aren't the same by any stretch.

And picking up on little bits of wording like that? that's terrible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:35 GMT
#9498
On January 17 2015 01:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:30 marvellosity wrote:
well I guess I decided I should play now. Then again Kelsier seems like a real risky lynch to me.

I look forward to your contributions. You should read the last 20 pages for starters.

yeah not sure when that's supposed to happen.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:36 GMT
#9499
If GB is town, then all his cases and reads are built on totally incorrect things, and unlike Vivax he doesn't have the saving grace of being insanely invested at just the right times.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:38 GMT
#9501
On January 17 2015 01:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:21 Vivax wrote:
Ok, so need to roll out the LM/Marv/Kelsier theory up again as I currently don't think GB is mafia. Back to rereading.

tell me why please


The way he cried for joy when we were lynching Palmar and SL was waffling so hard on switching to him, while GB was believing Palmar to flip red.

THen some other point where he went nuts out of joy when Kelsier was uncovered as scum. Can't remember exactly this part and cba to go read it now.

so overreactions based on reads pushing a mafia agenda?

beautiful
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:40 GMT
#9503
DP was almost certainly killed because zero people suspected him and fresh eyes are better than tired eyes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:42 GMT
#9504
like are people forgetting right now how LM was the closer counterwagon to townPalmar, and it all went down extremely fishily?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:43 GMT
#9506
Palmar flipped town, it was close, there's votes moving about

why do i need to explain to you how a townie narrowly getting voted out over another player is notable?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:44 GMT
#9507
less question question more thinky thinky
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:46 GMT
#9511
On January 17 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:38 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:37 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:21 Vivax wrote:
Ok, so need to roll out the LM/Marv/Kelsier theory up again as I currently don't think GB is mafia. Back to rereading.

tell me why please


The way he cried for joy when we were lynching Palmar and SL was waffling so hard on switching to him, while GB was believing Palmar to flip red.

THen some other point where he went nuts out of joy when Kelsier was uncovered as scum. Can't remember exactly this part and cba to go read it now.

so overreactions based on reads pushing a mafia agenda?

beautiful


No, overreactions when he believed that a scum was trying to not switch to another scum.

right, so manufactured, given we know how shit went.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:46 GMT
#9512
anyway, although this is unlikely to save myself right this minute:

##Vote: Lazermonkey

Like I'd really love to vote Kels to save myself, but at this stage of the game saving myself isn't enough to win
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:47 GMT
#9514
On January 17 2015 01:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Marv you need to do the thinky thinky for me if you want me to thinky thinky you're town.

only got brains for one babe.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:48 GMT
#9515
Artanis could be mafia.

GB/LM/Artanis, Artanis used towncred to push Palmar, GB followed, saves LM from the righteous lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:50 GMT
#9518
On January 17 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Marv if you want me to unvote you, will have to vote Kelsier.

you're asking me to choose a 10% over a 0% when I could have a 90%

why would i do that?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:53 GMT
#9523
On January 17 2015 01:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
Artanis could be mafia.

GB/LM/Artanis, Artanis used towncred to push Palmar, GB followed, saves LM from the righteous lynch.

If you honestly think I could be mafia with how I've played I find it hard to believe that you can't be mafia.

yes, it's definitely in my best interests to refuse to vote for the only possible counterwagon (apparently) and call a universal townread mafia.

That *must* make me mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:55 GMT
#9524
On January 17 2015 01:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:50 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Marv if you want me to unvote you, will have to vote Kelsier.

you're asking me to choose a 10% over a 0% when I could have a 90%

why would i do that?


It's obvious you glossed over all the arguments for why Kels is scum. Simply cause you are buddies.
I can't exclude that LM is scum, but I can speculate that you and Kelsier bussed him yesterday to kill him and get the cred required to win the game.

Which is why I will vote Kelsier or you, but not LM as that gives Kelsier and you more room to talk yourself out of getting lynched cause you will argue that you called for his lynch so badly.

no, it's obvious that you and mafia are pushing Kelsier.

Did you actually read, in detail, GB's meta case on Kelsier? It's absolute shit-tier and it attempts to bury Kelsier when his play between the two games is not similar at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:56 GMT
#9526
On January 17 2015 01:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
Artanis could be mafia.

GB/LM/Artanis, Artanis used towncred to push Palmar, GB followed, saves LM from the righteous lynch.

If you honestly think I could be mafia with how I've played I find it hard to believe that you can't be mafia.

yes, it's definitely in my best interests to refuse to vote for the only possible counterwagon (apparently) and call a universal townread mafia.

That *must* make me mafia.

You had to keep your story straight. Couldn't well falter on KSC now that you've come this far. Also, both Vivax and GB have expressed concerns on me so it's not actually universal anymore. You of all people should know how bad my scumgame is though and know that this is impossible for me.

back at you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:56 GMT
#9527
let's also not pretend you didn't fool the entire game when you were mafia before.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:57 GMT
#9528
like this massive push on consecutive cycles to save LM is ridiculous.

GB's waffling to save his scumpartner is ridiculous. town-mafia-dunno-town-mafia-oh wow this is so hard-blablablabla.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:59 GMT
#9530
your only hardpush was Palmar to save LM

QED
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 16:59 GMT
#9531
we should lynch LM, who is mafia, and then all the other pieces start slotting into place.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:00 GMT
#9532
On January 17 2015 01:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:56 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
Artanis could be mafia.

GB/LM/Artanis, Artanis used towncred to push Palmar, GB followed, saves LM from the righteous lynch.

If you honestly think I could be mafia with how I've played I find it hard to believe that you can't be mafia.

yes, it's definitely in my best interests to refuse to vote for the only possible counterwagon (apparently) and call a universal townread mafia.

That *must* make me mafia.

You had to keep your story straight. Couldn't well falter on KSC now that you've come this far. Also, both Vivax and GB have expressed concerns on me so it's not actually universal anymore. You of all people should know how bad my scumgame is though and know that this is impossible for me.

back at you.

The difference is you usually actually try to figure the game out as town. You just seem to be going with whatever you think will not get you lynched this game.

yeah i'm definitely doing that right now, taking the easy route, right??? right?!

you also know when i am caught as mafia i return to the thread approximately 0% of the time.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:01 GMT
#9534
yet the point remains in the context of this game :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:02 GMT
#9536
On January 17 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:59 marvellosity wrote:
we should lynch LM, who is mafia, and then all the other pieces start slotting into place.


You'd like that. Cause there's still the small chance he's just a bad townie and SL the third between you and Kelsier, gonna have to look at the cop claim D2 between SL and Kel to figure if it was all scum-scum interaction to lure out the real cop.

you're awful.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:03 GMT
#9538
I've been townreading you all game

I can easily go after KsC here.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:03 GMT
#9539
like i could easily make the argument that kels is just hoping to coast by on my lynch today because he's been totally absent

but i havent

but i could
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:06 GMT
#9542
On January 17 2015 02:05 Vivax wrote:
Marv tell me what you think of this:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 03:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 16 2015 03:15 Vivax wrote:
I'm aiming for best town award

I think I'll nominate you for best traitor play this game tbh


it looks like Artanis being "hilarious"

?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:06 GMT
#9544
Can someone please tell me why marv/KSC/??? makes any sense in the context of yesterday's flip compared to LM/GB/Artanis (possibly) ?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:10 GMT
#9552
On January 17 2015 02:09 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:59 marvellosity wrote:
we should lynch LM, who is mafia, and then all the other pieces start slotting into place.


hum say you get my vote. Thats 3 you still need 1 more

I'll have to lobby Damdred when he's here.

And cross my fingers that I can get Vivax on-side, because if I can't get Vivax on-side at some point, then the game is lost regardless
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:16 GMT
#9558
On January 17 2015 02:13 Vivax wrote:
Honestly I can't believe marv isn't scumreading Kelsier after I pointed out how he behaved with ritoky and Artanis D1.

They must be scum together.

Because his play is totally dissimilar to his scumplay

look i'm sure he did stuff that looks dodgy, that's gonna happen in 35 pages of filter or however much it is.

you've had a bunch of dodgy shit in your infinity pages too.

Like if it came down to the deadline and I had a choice between marv and KSC, I vote KSC. But that's not a good option right now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:17 GMT
#9560
By the way

Look at the timing of GB's hardpush on Palmar

1.he vaguely threatens that he's going to vote Palmar unless he votes Damdred (lol!!!)
2.he indeed does so
3.marv says "do not lynch Palmar, lynch LM!"
4.Palmar goes to bed
5.LM is a distinct possibility
6.NOW, FUCKING NOW, GB hardpushes Palmar. Not before.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:19 GMT
#9561
literally GB only hardpushes Palmar after I announce Palmar is a bad lynch and go to bed, and Palmar goes to bed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:21 GMT
#9564
if you promise to read GB's meta case on KSC, and then read Carol of the bells, then yes. Will you do that?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:24 GMT
#9569
On January 17 2015 02:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
if you promise to read GB's meta case on KSC, and then read Carol of the bells, then yes. Will you do that?


No, I ignored each and everyone of GB's meta cases this game cause mafia is an extremely situational game.

but YOU SHOULD

because GB is misrepresenting KSC horribly, and *that is important*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:29 GMT
#9575
at 4-3 mafia only needs to sway one vote. at 5-3 they realistically need 2.

2 is shitloads more than 1.

just sayin.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:30 GMT
#9576
On January 17 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
by my own metric, marv/LM/Kelsier is the mafia-team, and that's kinda unfortunate.


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
no, not got time for cases.

I really wanted just to say fuck all you fucking jubjubs for lynching me at lylo, but annoyingly I decided I couldn't just throw the game.


Marv this reads like you claiming scum and now putting in all effort you can to not lose this game.

it's just me poking fun at myself.

a) i wouldn't even bother to come back to the thread to say it
b) i wouldn't then carry on posting and arguing

like what's the point in claiming scum and then trying to play the game :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:31 GMT
#9579
On January 17 2015 02:30 sicklucker wrote:
Unless its something stupid like gb/lm/dandred and they just decided to bus each other all game from day 1

that seems really silly and unlikely though. even though it kinda would be working, it shouldn't be. if you know what i mean
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:33 GMT
#9582
On January 17 2015 02:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Meta case on Kelsier isn't damning, I know it's weak, but the way he played his first game is completely different from the way he played as scum. I couldn't find his other towngame.

Some situations are clear: he promises cases but tell he can't do things because he is on a phone, which is do posts bullshit as I'm always on a phone and could do A LOT.

These excuses are convenient and can't be found on his towngame.

What you can't say, marv, is that my meta case on damdred is bad, because it is really straight forward. And you completely skipped that. Intentionally.

your meta case on damdred rests on similar contentions - he made a couple of longer posts in the towngames, and he treats you in a certain way in Russia today that he doesn't here, whereas it seems to me he did his absolute best in this game to engage you. you're just pushing a ml on him too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:34 GMT
#9583
On January 17 2015 02:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Meta case on Kelsier isn't damning, I know it's weak, but the way he played his first game is completely different from the way he played as scum. I couldn't find his other towngame.

Some situations are clear: he promises cases but tell he can't do things because he is on a phone, which is do posts bullshit as I'm always on a phone and could do A LOT.

These excuses are convenient and can't be found on his towngame.

What you can't say, marv, is that my meta case on damdred is bad, because it is really straight forward. And you completely skipped that. Intentionally.

like I could go back in KSC's filter and pick out many posts from this game with a clear direction, and you can't do that in Carol.

that's meta.

you're cherrypicking him to make him look bad, like you did the same to Damdred.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:39 GMT
#9591
On January 17 2015 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 02:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Meta case on Kelsier isn't damning, I know it's weak, but the way he played his first game is completely different from the way he played as scum. I couldn't find his other towngame.

Some situations are clear: he promises cases but tell he can't do things because he is on a phone, which is do posts bullshit as I'm always on a phone and could do A LOT.

These excuses are convenient and can't be found on his towngame.

What you can't say, marv, is that my meta case on damdred is bad, because it is really straight forward. And you completely skipped that. Intentionally.

like I could go back in KSC's filter and pick out many posts from this game with a clear direction, and you can't do that in Carol.

that's meta.

you're cherrypicking him to make him look bad, like you did the same to Damdred.


The blue fishing is just the same.
The townreadings are just the same. Completely fabricated.

This may be the biggest line of bullshit in the game. In Carol Kelsier goes around going "oh i'm going to add so and so to my circle because sexypenguins" and has like 10 townreads at the end of d1 for no reason. Like this is such an awful comparison.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:40 GMT
#9593
ok i'm about to head off for my dad's 60th. I should be back for #miraclesavethisgame before deadline.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:40 GMT
#9595
On January 17 2015 02:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 02:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 17 2015 02:24 sicklucker wrote:
Artanis are you ever wrong about vivax here and its the obvious team I thought it was since like day3?

Very unlikely. It's possible because it feels like vivax is pushing scum agendas so hard left and right with all these nutjob conspiracies, but I just can't imagine a 50 page scum Vivax.


Extreme bullshit. If you can't imagine a 50 page scum Vivax you can't imagine a 50 page scum Marv.

42 page :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:43 GMT
#9600
On January 17 2015 02:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 17 2015 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 02:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Meta case on Kelsier isn't damning, I know it's weak, but the way he played his first game is completely different from the way he played as scum. I couldn't find his other towngame.

Some situations are clear: he promises cases but tell he can't do things because he is on a phone, which is do posts bullshit as I'm always on a phone and could do A LOT.

These excuses are convenient and can't be found on his towngame.

What you can't say, marv, is that my meta case on damdred is bad, because it is really straight forward. And you completely skipped that. Intentionally.

like I could go back in KSC's filter and pick out many posts from this game with a clear direction, and you can't do that in Carol.

that's meta.

you're cherrypicking him to make him look bad, like you did the same to Damdred.


The blue fishing is just the same.
The townreadings are just the same. Completely fabricated.

This may be the biggest line of bullshit in the game. In Carol Kelsier goes around going "oh i'm going to add so and so to my circle because sexypenguins" and has like 10 townreads at the end of d1 for no reason. Like this is such an awful comparison.


I've posted a ridiculous townread on DrH he gave. 9th post of his filter. I can bring more.

"Tryhard town", give me a break.

er, that's a perfectly good read, especially for early in the game. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

Looks like you can take any townread he gives and give it a scum narrative.

As a townie, he is allowed to give townreads.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 16 2015 17:45 GMT
#9602
right i really must go.

bbl
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 00:21 GMT
#9808
I return for a while
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 00:30 GMT
#9812
this is so silly. if I am mafia with Kelsier, I don't come back to the thread.

Well let's be honest, i don't come back to the thread as mafia anyway, but i'll let that slide.

like I literally come back and push a lynch that only one other player is interested in (Kelsier) which is totally useless in all cases except where i'm town.

i don't know why people are coming up with all these ridiculous scenarios of teams and what have you and not going with specific reasoning and passages of play.

Namely GB's push on Palmar, Lazer being saved by a whisker, Lazer pathetically pushing GB only to end up on me when it mattered yesterday while avoiding all the important interactions, blablabla.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 00:37 GMT
#9816
is there anything I need to read in the last few pages other than paranoia and wifom team scenarios, or can I actually get people here to think about what happened last cycle?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 00:41 GMT
#9820
On January 17 2015 03:21 Vivax wrote:
But I find the last votecount interesting cause it supports the LM + Kels + Marv scumteam.

Lazer left his vote on marv before peacing out, which would give him further cred after Lazer flipped.
Plus I don't recall Kelsier being around at EoD like the usual times to try and push us onto Lazer. But it's from my memory so can't guarantee I'm right.

so what the fuck am I doing today? and yesterday for that matter?

I'm in massive trouble, so I come in saying "let's not kill my buddy (KSC), let's kill my other buddy (LM), because then I'll be in so much better a spot tomorrow and things will definitely be ok"

also yesterday, marvmafia is going "let's not lynch townpalmar who is hardpushnig me as mafia, let's lynch my buddy"

why do people with brains not see this makes no sense.

Like people *even noted* I left the door open to read Palmar however I wanted because I was non-committal, but at the end of the day I bloody made my mind up that we shouldn't lynch him

ARHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 00:45 GMT
#9822
where is everyone?

it's bloody lylo and we're sleepwalking towards this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 00:55 GMT
#9827
On January 17 2015 09:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax and SL said they'd be waking up near deadline.

Marv tell me more on the blablabla in
Show nested quote +
Namely GB's push on Palmar, Lazer being saved by a whisker, Lazer pathetically pushing GB only to end up on me when it mattered yesterday while avoiding all the important interactions, blablabla.

Like what more do you need than what I said? It's hard facts rather than speculation that can't be proven one way or another, and that's what we bloody need to use.

Here is LM's voting filter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474333-imperial-mafia-voting-thread?user=Lazermonkey

Note how on the first 2 days, he's solidly on geript. No doubt, no vote moving, geript is *it*. Now obviously I can't justify LM being mafia for this alone, but I'd gently point out I got on Super. And we have points like these:
On January 04 2015 19:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
lolwtf is this?

That claim doesn't make any sense at all. But w/e. If your town you are getting shot anyway.

Superbia is a meh lynch right now. Not terrible but basically 100% a lurker lynch. Lurking isn't very alignment indicative and I feel Vivax/Damdred both have a much higher chance of being scum.

Seriously, LOOK AT THIS.

or this
On January 05 2015 09:10 Lazermonkey wrote:
waitwat¨

Why lynch super except for that he sucks?

or this
On January 05 2015 09:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 09:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
This shit is too confusing. Lynch Superbia or Geript I don't even care anymore.
Why are there people still on Vivax after all that's happened today?

Explain why Superbia is a better lynch than Geript.


Superbia was a very viable lynch target on day 2.

On January 06 2015 06:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 06:29 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 06:25 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 06 2015 06:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause there was no vote count

Are you serious?

100% serious. I saw that some people voted geript and superbia, but I didn't know who tehy were or where their votes were previously. So because I didn't vote superbia to save geript I'm scum? You know how dumb of an argument that is?

LOL, you said you thought super was scum. You said you were fine with a super lynch. You said you were unsure of geript you OBSERVED that Vivax wasn't lynched but Super was
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 06:33 IAmRobik wrote:
Why are we suddenly lynching geript over vivax?

Why wouldn't town switch in this situation?

The argument is very good in fact. This is often something I see scum do, since they don't really care what person dies as long as its not one of their team mates. Townies on the other hand, are will try to lynch their best scum read but if that doesn't work out they will lynch their second best and so on.


Bingo. BINGO.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 00:56 GMT
#9828
Didn't quite finish my point about LM's voting filter either.

Does anyone remember how long and how hard LM was scumreading GB?

Now, how long was his vote on GB? hardly any time at all right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:00 GMT
#9830
I'm just going to talk to myself because hopefully some townies come to their senses

On January 08 2015 05:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
Okay after after reading superbias and ritoky I think that they both look very bad. But superbia is not here which makes me feel meh about lynching him. I'd rather wait untill he responds before I kill him.

#vote: ritoky

Look, just look at this post. Two very important things:

1.for some reason he doesn't want to lynch superbia - "meh"
2.this is despite saying superbia looks very bad

so this is twofold. first superbia looks very bad but somehow he doesn't want to lynch him.
secondly, HOW DOES SUPERBIA LOOK VERY BAD WHEN HE WAS JUST A COINFLIP LURKER LYNCH EARLIER

hello town

town pls

pls
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:01 GMT
#9831
On January 17 2015 10:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 09:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And I want to know if you think Vivax can be scum this game because I'm having trouble forming a team that has neither you nor Kels in it.


don't care, all that matters for me right now is town not losing this game right here right now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:04 GMT
#9833
because Lazer was already mafia for the reasons I brought up before about his scumread on GB ---> his vote on me and how he dealt with me/palmar that night, and i stated all that very explicitly.

plus i was feeling salty at town but 492 page game is too long to lose for being annoyed.

anyway, that's a really stupid question. it's much more important to actually look at what i'm saynig right now. THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:06 GMT
#9835
On January 17 2015 10:05 sicklucker wrote:
Can I go back to bed?

can you try to help me? it's getting down to the wire and i don't want us to lose it all today
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:08 GMT
#9836
like i don't know how you're going to help because too many ppl seem happy voting marv and fucking off, but use some mystical powers or some such :d
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:15 GMT
#9843
On January 17 2015 10:09 sicklucker wrote:
Well im reading. Its hard to read because all I see is people think im scum when you clearly explained for a long time why I cant be

that's because for mafia, having everyone under some doubt is fricking awesome.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:17 GMT
#9844
oh god i'm so tired. pls all of you who are town, don't sleepwalk through this

things will look SO GOOD for us after we lynch LM today and he flips mafia because of the sheer amount of shit today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:19 GMT
#9850
but he isn't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:21 GMT
#9851
GB wants his e-peen for pushing a ml through on marv but can't stay in the thread to do it ;/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:23 GMT
#9854
I'm flanked by the two towniest bros in the game in that count. I like.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:27 GMT
#9856
what exactly are you getting at sl?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:31 GMT
#9860
On January 17 2015 10:29 sicklucker wrote:
All 3 mafia left voted super in this vote. Its very unlikely.

yes, it would be absolutely ridiculous.

ergo it isn't the case.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:36 GMT
#9867
i want to quote a bunch of these posts and just say "bingo"

finally it seems like there is some clarity
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:40 GMT
#9870
GB never played an amazing scumgame.

if it's Vivax, then well, he did, yes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:42 GMT
#9873
On January 17 2015 10:41 sicklucker wrote:
I mean someone played good scum here. You guys were making me pick between a world of it being marv or you. I dont see why it cant be vivax. This is a pretty epic game everyone stepped it up.

yeah that's the thing. this game is hard as fuck
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:44 GMT
#9875
On January 17 2015 10:43 liancourt wrote:
might as well count a vote


lazermonkey (5): Damdred, artanis[xP], sicklucker, marvellosity, KelsierSC
marvellosity (3): lazermonkey, Glowingbear, Vivax

Currently lazermonkey is set to be lynched.


so it seems like maybe mafia went all-in on voting me and just fell short right at the end?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:47 GMT
#9879
really looks like they were about 45m away from wrapping it up right here
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 01:53 GMT
#9882
i really love how GB just afked out of here when it looked like things were going tits up
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 02:02 GMT
#9889
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 02:09 GMT
#9893
>.> <.<

if he's not on this minute, could we get a flip please?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 02:10 GMT
#9895
some of us are already up way past our bed-time
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 02:14 GMT
#9901
\o/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 02:23 GMT
#9911
no idea, i thought hts was a shadow

hts had zero effect on anything at all. so there's not much point getting salty about it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 02:36 GMT
#9920
one thing before bed:

justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted
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07:06 PM ET (US)
I will second that. What are they thinking? And why are Artanis and marv accepting this?

because HTS seemed to be a newbie shadow and had no effect on anything, so why would it matter to us in any way?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 11:09 GMT
#10003
On January 17 2015 19:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, really really well played yo.

Damdred, you played well also. The buss was really well done IMO.

so little credit, lol :<

the main thing that baffled me was how many townies pushed on people who were almost certainly town.

like Vivax pushing on jat and sl just made my mind 'splode. And then Vivax constantly attacks me for not agreeing with his narratives when the narratives are always nonsense :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 11:19:09
January 17 2015 11:14 GMT
#10005
can you even *imagine* what my filter *should* look like in a game this size?

not getting lynched when everyone realises you're mafia is quite the achievement, i'd say :p

There's no such thing as "stylistically" calling certain townies mafia. That's just incorrect play, nothing more, nothing less. And he wasn't the only one.

edit: like town needs to cut through what's important and what's not. calling obvious townies and likely townies mafia is what lets mafia hide!

Damdred and I were playing below our towngames, and noticeably so, and that's what was *actually* important, but it was beautifully drowned out (from scum PoV) from all the crackpot nonsense going on around us, hiding us in amongst the bs.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 11:23 GMT
#10008
it's not hard, i'd push sl 0/100 times there as town. I just wouldn't. The reasons for him to be town were clear as day and didn't require extra info.

Palmar and GB caught Damdred because Damdred was totally uninteresting compared to his towngame. But there was so much extracurricular noise that it just didn't matter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 11:23 GMT
#10009
On January 17 2015 20:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
but calling people obvious townies was kinda what made us lose in a sense, no?

no, because you lynch the mafia in front of you (Damdred, marv) and you give yourself the time you need to figure out the sleeper (Artanis) at a later date.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 11:35 GMT
#10013
On January 17 2015 20:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
I dunno. Its possible you would've nailed everyone if you were town.

i should clarify that i am not claiming that at all :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 11:54 GMT
#10016
On January 17 2015 20:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 20:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
I dunno. Its possible you would've nailed everyone if you were town.

i should clarify that i am not claiming that at all :p

Haha, okey. But still.

And regarding Damdred, his push on superbia seemed very genuine. I seldom see scum players make bussus of that kind. So even though it may be true that he wasn't invovled, I still felt good about him.

it's not uncommon at all babe. especially on 'dead' members (totally inactive, looking really scummy already)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 12:16 GMT
#10021
On January 17 2015 21:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 11:36 marvellosity wrote:
one thing before bed:

justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted
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07:06 PM ET (US)
I will second that. What are they thinking? And why are Artanis and marv accepting this?

because HTS seemed to be a newbie shadow and had no effect on anything, so why would it matter to us in any way?

It didn't look that way when DP presented it in the obs qt. I think it should have been weird to you especially since artanis had shadows of his own who did not post in there (?) but I guess I take back the quoted statement.

This is still completely unacceptable for the hosts to do. Even if she did not affectthe game at all which noone will ever be able to know things like this still ruin the game.

only if you let them? like there's no reason it should ruin the game for anyone or anything.

like, probably HTS shouldn't have just appeared, but the fact I gave it literally zero real thought showed the extent to which it affected anything.

A newbie shadow in the QT had far less effect on the game than the constant replacements that mafia had to deal with, for example... the DrH/DP swap in particular was just insanely townfavoured
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 17 2015 12:17 GMT
#10022
On January 17 2015 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote:
So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun

Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play.

Unfortunately a lot of people do that.. for no apparent reason.

yes, like you, lol.

you just justify it at the time/after saying it was reasonable, when actually it's just the same
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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January 17 2015 12:36 GMT
#10033
On January 17 2015 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 21:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:17 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote:
So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun

Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play.

Unfortunately a lot of people do that.. for no apparent reason.

yes, like you, lol.

you just justify it at the time/after saying it was reasonable, when actually it's just the same

Noone (town) has ever read me mafia for my fakeclaims. Ever.
If it was the case here (was SL read scum for townies?) it was not bad play.
If he was read town for it (by townies) it was good play.

He was townread by some and scumread by some.

Well then it was probably bad play.

that's an incorrect viewpoint to look at it really. Probably sl shouldn't have fakeclaimed, and on several of the times you fakeclaimed, neither should you. "what did the other townies think" seems to be a rather bankrupt way to look at it.

"I made a great case on all 5 mafia individually and collectively, but town all thought i was scum for it" - well, you can't blame the outcome on the original action.

sl fakeclaiming was silly, but the way it went down made him absolutely town (esp. when it came to light later that multiple mafia had pushed the claim), and GB and Vivax being suspicious of him was insanely dumb.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 12:37 GMT
#10035
On January 17 2015 21:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 21:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 11:36 marvellosity wrote:
one thing before bed:

justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted
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07:06 PM ET (US)
I will second that. What are they thinking? And why are Artanis and marv accepting this?

because HTS seemed to be a newbie shadow and had no effect on anything, so why would it matter to us in any way?

It didn't look that way when DP presented it in the obs qt. I think it should have been weird to you especially since artanis had shadows of his own who did not post in there (?) but I guess I take back the quoted statement.

This is still completely unacceptable for the hosts to do. Even if she did not affectthe game at all which noone will ever be able to know things like this still ruin the game.

only if you let them? like there's no reason it should ruin the game for anyone or anything.

like, probably HTS shouldn't have just appeared, but the fact I gave it literally zero real thought showed the extent to which it affected anything.

A newbie shadow in the QT had far less effect on the game than the constant replacements that mafia had to deal with, for example... the DrH/DP swap in particular was just insanely townfavoured

It does not matter at all how experienced she is. Putting fresh thoughts in the qt/blue hunting can still help you. Maybe you wouldn't even consciously notice it. I don't deny that the replacements (the DP one above all) were unfair to scum but this is game ruining nonetheless. I signed up to a setup with 5 scum players.

I feel like the replacements effected the game a lot more than she did, even though I understand it should've never happened in the first place and understand the protests in that sense.

That might be true. But those things have absolutely nothing to do with each other and making more mistakes that favor different factions does not make it acceptable.

I agree, that's not what I mean. It's just that you said it shouldn't be in the database and all that when I feel on a game-impact scale it had a minor if not zero effect.

I said this when I thought HTS had nothing to do with this game at all.

fwiw, if like DP had appeared in the QT making the occasional comment, i'd have definitely wondered what was going on.

I knew several players had shadows, though, and I knew HTS was a newbie, so I just assumed that's what it was. So in that fashion the experience of HTS was relevant (as to one of your posts above)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 12:38 GMT
#10037
On January 17 2015 21:37 justanothertownie wrote:
GB and Vivax both have a thing for being suspicious of obvious townies though. So there is that.

GB is still pretty new, and hopefully he should grow out of it.

Vivax should have absolutely been able to see that sl was clear town though. And with you also.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 12:46 GMT
#10042
I'm well aware of the times you've fakeclaimed, and you have an incredibly rose-tinted view of your own claims.

There's little to no point arguing with you about it really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 12:51 GMT
#10045
On January 17 2015 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
It was completely obvious that marv and damdred were mafia together when marv completely ignored my meta on him but attacked my meta on KSC (which was extremely weak, I should have not posted it once I realised it was weak while doing it). I should have noticed it.

Again, this is a great game for learning. There are some points in Artanis play that makes him scum but was overlooked (the fluff posts in example) and some meta points.

But saying that town was a complete shit and that is why scum won is a demerit to scum. They have played incredibly well.

I think that the most important lesson in this game is that Overall Gameplay is much more important than vote counts and everything

1st paragraph: ye
2nd: i may try to elaborate at some point, but i don't think it's the fluff
3rd: thx bbe
4th: they're both important, and usually they should work together. For example, Artanis was forgiven for the Palmar push because of his "gameplay" but it actually massively pushed mafia agenda (and Palmar instantly called Artanis certain mafia when he woke up dead and saw)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 14:53 GMT
#10088
On January 17 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh damn jat you're right. I didn't process it was a shadow saying that, but yeah that's obviously unacceptable and it could've been game altering depending on if we would've seen it and what slam would've said if we submitted a doublestack.

no. I knew we couldn't double stack.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 14:56 GMT
#10089
i wonder if a 45 page filter for mafia will ever be broken
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 14:59 GMT
#10091
On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game.

hopefully not more, hopefully less.

I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia.

I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:07 GMT
#10096
On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game.

hopefully not more, hopefully less.

I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia.

I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/

It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch.

maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:14 GMT
#10100
On January 18 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game.

hopefully not more, hopefully less.

I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia.

I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/

It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch.

maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia.

The way I see this is that you will try to manage this and get scumread for it. Then you will have to post more anyways to not get lynched. Or you will have to post more to get the lynch you want naturally. And if you do that you will have to cut all those little unimportant posts that can also show that you are town. This is not the best idea you ever had.

don't you remember hogwarts?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:16 GMT
#10104
On January 18 2015 00:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 00:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game.

hopefully not more, hopefully less.

I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia.

I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/

It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch.

maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia.

The way I see this is that you will try to manage this and get scumread for it. Then you will have to post more anyways to not get lynched. Or you will have to post more to get the lynch you want naturally. And if you do that you will have to cut all those little unimportant posts that can also show that you are town. This is not the best idea you ever had.

don't you remember hogwarts?

Yes, I do. But you smurfed in hogwarts which is an important difference.

it is, but i still looked extremely town regardless. so it's definitely possible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:18 GMT
#10107
:D

:D:D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:18 GMT
#10108
yeah there was no world at day 5 EoD where the alignments went

marv town
Palmar mafia

no world at all
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:26 GMT
#10110
btw, wtf was Robik doing with his checks O.o

madness
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:28 GMT
#10114
I think me, you, and VE have the 3 most played games here, in some order.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:34 GMT
#10118
On January 18 2015 00:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 00:28 Palmar wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game.

hopefully not more, hopefully less.

I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia.

I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/

It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch.

maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia.

I think your push on Lazer at the end actually looked a lot like Townmarv. If you could copy that as scum before you're in mortal danger it'd actually be quite hard to discern your alignment.

You are telling me townmarv who is left alive by scum for some unknown reason constantly tunnels on the same lynchbaity player for the last days? No fucking way.

I'm not talking about the overall picture, he was obviously mafia for it. I just mean that the way he pushed his target there resembled townmarv.

It actually looked nothing like townmarv

What do you feel was different about it? It was a very concise point on why LM was scum.

probably the thing that looked most like me in many days at any rate lol. i could see myself going after that (wrongly) as town too :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:36 GMT
#10122
Koshi made a great point in QT actually how i managed to paint myself into a corner by townreading everyone i should be townreading, leaving me with 3 scum by PoE who i kinda hadn't pushed at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 15:38 GMT
#10126
On January 18 2015 00:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 00:36 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi made a great point in QT actually how i managed to paint myself into a corner by townreading everyone i should be townreading, leaving me with 3 scum by PoE who i kinda hadn't pushed at all.

Yes, didn't I try to force you into that position at one point?

yes, you did, and it was essentially successful.

like there's a bunch of players i know (like you) and a bunch of players who townmarv should be reading as town, and then there's mafia I'm trying not to bus (If i bus Damdred, damdred dies), and... that leaves me with nothing.

you were right to do it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 18:30 GMT
#10142
On January 18 2015 00:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 00:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:36 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi made a great point in QT actually how i managed to paint myself into a corner by townreading everyone i should be townreading, leaving me with 3 scum by PoE who i kinda hadn't pushed at all.

Yeah, I think your biggest flaw (other than not pushing your suspects as strongly) as scum is clearing people too quickly, but I guess you kind of have to since that's what you do as town.

yep he has to.

Marv will should win a scumteam a game. His job is to distract town for long enough to allow his team to sweep up. Most higher profile players need to take this role because in the end it will be obvious they are mafia.

The alternative option is sooo difficult to pull off.

Yeah, this all over. Artanis definitely mafia MVP but there's no way I can possibly be alive on d6 and not be obvious mafia in this game, it's basically impossible.

Not getting lynched (and winning the game) is essentially as good as I can possibly get in a game like this. I think this is the 7th time i've survived lylo as mafia...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 17 2015 18:31 GMT
#10143
On January 18 2015 02:25 geript wrote:
See what happens when a bunch of baddies lynch Geript. I am accepting apologies for your stupidity now.

you did yourself zero favours buddy.
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