On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote: [quote] go on, this should be good
See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight.
The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post.
Now, the important part here is your sentence
"you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly.
Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know.
You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you.
Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made.
The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.
also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.
tldr: lol
Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.
And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.
The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.
I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?
the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.
You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.
Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_>
wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town?
Yes, when you were scum.
duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games
hm
you're being silly.
the point is this: when Palmar has been town, he's treated me in x way (and yes i was mafia in those two games, dem's how the dice rolled) here he is treating me in a completely different way (even though he has called me mafia all game)
On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote: [quote] See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight.
The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post.
Now, the important part here is your sentence
"you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly.
Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know.
You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you.
Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made.
The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.
also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.
tldr: lol
Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.
And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.
The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.
I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?
the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.
You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.
Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_>
wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town?
Yes, when you were scum.
duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games
hm
you're being silly.
the point is this: when Palmar has been town, he's treated me in x way (and yes i was mafia in those two games, dem's how the dice rolled) here he is treating me in a completely different way (even though he has called me mafia all game)
On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote: [quote] The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia.
also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it.
tldr: lol
Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.
And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.
The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.
I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?
the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.
You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.
Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_>
wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town?
Yes, when you were scum.
duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games
hm
you're being silly.
the point is this: when Palmar has been town, he's treated me in x way (and yes i was mafia in those two games, dem's how the dice rolled) here he is treating me in a completely different way (even though he has called me mafia all game)
Yeah, but I am also threating you differently.
you've not called me mafia all game, as far as i can tell you want to lynch me when i've been away from the thread for a while, and then kinda townread me while i'm around even though you don't want to
Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU.
And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core.
The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point.
I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out?
the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it.
You've absolutely been scared to push me this game.
Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_>
wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town?
Yes, when you were scum.
duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games
hm
you're being silly.
the point is this: when Palmar has been town, he's treated me in x way (and yes i was mafia in those two games, dem's how the dice rolled) here he is treating me in a completely different way (even though he has called me mafia all game)
Yeah, but I am also threating you differently.
you've not called me mafia all game, as far as i can tell you want to lynch me when i've been away from the thread for a while, and then kinda townread me while i'm around even though you don't want to
On January 06 2015 01:46 KelsierSC wrote: I could see marv and palmar being mafia here and just putting up this bullshit fight
i could see you being a massive idiot
hurtful.
Anyway so I look at this game so far and we see D1 that the wagon is two townies so mafia doesn't really have to do anything, if you vote geript and leave it there you don't really have to do anything when the bats wagon starts.
So did marv and palmar really do anything EOD, not really.
so d2, both of them vote on viv but are pretty easily convinced to vote elsewhere, I didn't see effort put in at all in d2. Again with the lynch pretty firmly on geript there is no real reason to get involved.
No it is n2, we have lots of vote information and plenty to go on and marv and palmar have an argument like.
"you aren't pushing me so you are mafia"
"why are you calling me scared , that makes you mafia"
as far as i'm aware palmar and marv are good players and this ridiculous squabble is what they focus on. No I don't buy this argument for a second , it looks incredibly awkward and false.
I could see a scum team that contains marv and palmar
On January 06 2015 01:46 KelsierSC wrote: I could see marv and palmar being mafia here and just putting up this bullshit fight
i could see you being a massive idiot
hurtful.
Anyway so I look at this game so far and we see D1 that the wagon is two townies so mafia doesn't really have to do anything, if you vote geript and leave it there you don't really have to do anything when the bats wagon starts.
So did marv and palmar really do anything EOD, not really.
so d2, both of them vote on viv but are pretty easily convinced to vote elsewhere, I didn't see effort put in at all in d2. Again with the lynch pretty firmly on geript there is no real reason to get involved.
No it is n2, we have lots of vote information and plenty to go on and marv and palmar have an argument like.
"you aren't pushing me so you are mafia"
"why are you calling me scared , that makes you mafia"
as far as i'm aware palmar and marv are good players and this ridiculous squabble is what they focus on. No I don't buy this argument for a second , it looks incredibly awkward and false.
I could see a scum team that contains marv and palmar
i'm asleep EoD, shockingly.
also you need to play more games with me and Palmar.
On January 06 2015 01:55 sicklucker wrote: I dont know whats going on but I like it carry on
NO. NO. IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF MY TEAM YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS FUCKING PLAMMMMAR/MARV SHIT IS BULLSHIT.
MARV, THOUGHT DUMP IMMEDIATELY...THIS SHIT WITH PLAMMMAR IS FUCKING USELESS
I DISCOVERED THE CAPSLOCK KEY! GODDAMMIT!
This shit is boring. You even said it yourself -- palmar is the only one who is able to draw any conclusion from this bullshit tit for tat they have going.
Marv is looking scummier from it because he said he's busy with plammmar, but he's not even interacting in a way that would convince the rest of us that plammmar is scum or that marv is town. furthermore, marv isnt' even expressing any opinions on palmar from it, just basically that palmar is dumb and that kelsier is dumb.
On January 06 2015 01:55 sicklucker wrote: I dont know whats going on but I like it carry on
NO. NO. IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF MY TEAM YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS FUCKING PLAMMMMAR/MARV SHIT IS BULLSHIT.
MARV, THOUGHT DUMP IMMEDIATELY...THIS SHIT WITH PLAMMMAR IS FUCKING USELESS
I DISCOVERED THE CAPSLOCK KEY! GODDAMMIT!
This shit is boring. You even said it yourself -- palmar is the only one who is able to draw any conclusion from this bullshit tit for tat they have going.
Marv is looking scummier from it because he said he's busy with plammmar, but he's not even interacting in a way that would convince the rest of us that plammmar is scum or that marv is town. furthermore, marv isnt' even expressing any opinions on palmar from it, just basically that palmar is dumb and that kelsier is dumb.
You're fucking cool marv.
do you ever get bored from being an enormous hypocrite, dear?
On January 06 2015 01:55 sicklucker wrote: I dont know whats going on but I like it carry on
NO. NO. IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF MY TEAM YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS FUCKING PLAMMMMAR/MARV SHIT IS BULLSHIT.
MARV, THOUGHT DUMP IMMEDIATELY...THIS SHIT WITH PLAMMMAR IS FUCKING USELESS
I DISCOVERED THE CAPSLOCK KEY! GODDAMMIT!
This shit is boring. You even said it yourself -- palmar is the only one who is able to draw any conclusion from this bullshit tit for tat they have going.
Marv is looking scummier from it because he said he's busy with plammmar, but he's not even interacting in a way that would convince the rest of us that plammmar is scum or that marv is town. furthermore, marv isnt' even expressing any opinions on palmar from it, just basically that palmar is dumb and that kelsier is dumb.
On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote: Jesus christ, you fucking did.
go on, this should be good
See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight.
The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post.
Now, the important part here is your sentence
"you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly.
Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know.
You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you.
Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made.
I'm not quite following the argument yet but Palmar's play gave me such boners this game that I''ll simply assume i'm too stupid to immediately understand what he's saying here, and completely agree with his conclusion. Gonna try to look at this some more and figuring it out in the meantime.
On January 06 2015 01:38 Palmar wrote: Like I'm not even sure this case makes sense to anyone but myself. But man is this one in the bag.
EPT
