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I've downloaded a paint app but I can't copy the URL imgur gives to me. Does anyone have any idea of what to do? | ||
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On November 16 2014 00:15 Holyflare wrote: Isn't there a button that auto copies it? I don't think so. It just gives the URL link but it is "unclickable" to me. | ||
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On November 17 2014 00:05 Holyflare wrote: get the imgur app then or if you're using the app use the website instead? Oh I'm using the website. I didn't know there was an app. Gonna search for it. Thanks! | ||
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On November 18 2014 18:30 justanothertownie wrote: I hate you Sentinel... Well, I'll probably have to out due to time constraints so, if you wish to take my spot... | ||
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I'm drunk I haven't read the thread Talk to me. | ||
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I love you Who is scum? | ||
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On November 21 2014 02:38 Hopeless1der wrote: first question..what time is it where you are? 4pm. We went to the sugar loaf by the morning and we were drinking there until now. | ||
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Because that's not very accurate instrument to catch mafia. Opinions change from game to game. The solidest proof of what I'm saying was damdreds case on me on Hearthstone. He read me scum for having different opinion from the one I had on FFL 2 mafia, and I was town in both. Bring me something solid and constant, and thread-only. Reads differ from obs to thread because there is a difference on pressure. | ||
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On November 21 2014 02:47 Hopeless1der wrote: You're just like VE. I think rayn is town but I disagree with him about VE and Templar. Can you be of assistance? No, because, as I said, I haven't read the thread yet and I have no idea. What answer did you expect when you made that question to me? | ||
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On November 21 2014 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote: Chezinu following the Chezinu Rule is pretty townie Chezinu imo. Anyone disagree? Like yeah, he could do it as both alignments...but if you assume he's mafia then what do you think that means about Hopeless? And why does he unvote Hopeless only to vote sicklucker if he's mafia? Anyone disagree with my line of thinking here? Like, if Chez is mafia then the assumption is that Hopeless is town (based on Chez voting for him), so Chez voting for sicklucker (also presumably town for Chez vote) doesn't make much sense if he's mafia. It doesn't really make sense from any perspective other than Hopeless/Chez mafia, which if that's the case then why does he vote for him in the first place? For the moment I'm going to go ahead and say that I'll never lynch Chezinu today. 1st Paragraph) it's easier for mafia to follow a rule (or policy) than actually putting thought on the game. Following rules seems to be more scummy than townie to me. I can't understand your insistence in calling Chezinu town. I also don't understand why you say that Chezinu is probably town and then assumes it's a null tell right after and justifies calling him town using associative reads. Are you calling him town for using a rule or because you're doing associative reads? These are two different sources of read. Unvoting hopeless to vote sicklucker is a null tell. 2nd) Unflipped association. Lol. I prefer to think this way: "can this be done by a mafia? Is it more likely, less likely or equally likely to do as mafia?" And my answer is Yes and Equally likely. 3rd) For the moment or you're never going to lynch Chezinu? VE, you simply repeated your idea on both first and second paragraph. Your writing style doesn't look fluid, but fabricated, full of hesitation ("does anyone agree?" "for the moment I'll say I'll never lynch him[/b]) Meh, I found this post horrible. | ||
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On November 21 2014 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: for the moment i'd say GB sober up or get lynched. I'm already sober. Read what I've brought and give thoughts. | ||
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On November 21 2014 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are taking things out of context. Why? (i mean the VE shit you brought up) I'm not taking things out of context, I'm objectively evaluating VE's post. Can you tell me where I took things out of context/had bad logic? | ||
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Let's start this way: You're saying VE posted something and I said he posted a completely different thing. Explain what VE said Explain what it's different from what I said VE said | ||
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On November 21 2014 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay i misread something. That post from VE is a big pile of ??????????????????????????????????????? VE, wtf? LOL NO. | ||
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On November 21 2014 06:27 Damdred wrote: What are you on about this time rayn? LSD | ||
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I thought it was self explanatory | ||
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On November 21 2014 08:23 The_Templar wrote: Oh. I thought blood for some reason >.> Hahaha no, I'm just very very bad at drawing | ||
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On November 21 2014 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote: oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh I get it now. red rain = red rayn the face is ve? Yes ))) | ||
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On November 21 2014 08:48 liancourt wrote: No. VE is mafia because I quoted a horrible post from him that was scummy. He didn't address to it. Rayn is mafia for calling my post out for faked reasons. He tried to dismiss what I've brought but when he got pressure he couldn't attack my post properly, so he simply said he "misread something". Associative reads for the win. If VE flips mafia I would go against Rayn. | ||
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On November 21 2014 08:57 The_Templar wrote: Ok just checking. You know, you're sort of doing that too. But I was kinda hinting I find them both mafia. He is just spamming pictures or you being mafia. I'm lazy right now. I will step up in the game tomorrow | ||
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I think VE is mafia based solely on that post I've analysed. I still have to read the thread properly but I'm busy/lazy. | ||
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On November 21 2014 22:58 Holyflare wrote: this game just isn't very fun and i don't know why Because no one is trying. Vote VE with me. If VE was town, he would flip the fuck out when I posted my analysis on his post. Or he would try to reason it better. Instead, he just avoid giving traction to that call out because he knows I've nailed him and he didn't want to draw attention. VE has no confidence in this game. He is just throwing random questions and not taking hard stances | ||
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On November 20 2014 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: So my first instinct when I want to appear active as mafia is to just get in the thread and comment on something - ANYTHING. Like, it doesn't even have to be important, it just has to be a random comment about something happening in the thread. As town to appear active your first instinct is to just post. But that's different from the above. What mafia want to do is comment on something. Because it can be seen as some kind of contribution. Townies will post just anything. Arguably that's what fecal is doing in response to Chezinu's posts, but the difference is that fecal is making Paint pictures to comment on Chez, and he's basically saying "This is all I see when you post that", which is frankly a pretty townie response to Chezinu imo. Chez pointed out Hopeless, and I don't disagree so I like him. Damdred is a gut read. If I'm wrong it's about Damdred. Horrible post. He can't draw all these conclusions already at page two. It's funny that in his first paragraph he does exactly what he says mafia always does. Second paragraph isn't true. I started to give traction in a game I was town by calling an entrance out. That's my way to drive discussion. Third paragraph is so NULL, so NULL that hurts. That's not alignment indicative at all. Again, nothing that hopeless have posted at that time was alignment indicative. It makes no sense to me. | ||
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But he is taking them weirdly. He suddenly thought HF was mafia when he was pretty sure hopeless was scum. It did not follow a stream of thought, a process of sudden realisation. He saw Rayn calling out HF and THEN he started to drop reasons on why HF was weird. He didn't show any attempt of trying to figure HF out before. Like, if you are town an you START to believe SOMEONE ELSE is scum, it's because you saw something weird. You see it and you push it. THIS IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED. What happened was Rayn saying HF is weird (without giving reasons) and then VE IMEDDIATELY flips his vote and attention to HF, and locks on him. | ||
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Your stream of thought fits much more a mafia mindset than a town mindset | ||
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You can't even attack my posts point to point. Downgrading my gameplay won't help. You should attack the argument, not the player. All you're saying is that I'm wrong and my read is bad because I haven't thoroughly read the game. The essence of your counter-argument is me, not my post. | ||
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On November 21 2014 23:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not attacking the player. I'm saying that you're calling me mafia without reading the game. I don't give a shit how good or bad you are, there's no way you can have that read on me without reading the game. So I give literally zero weight to anything you post about me because you've said multiple times that you're not reading the game. I didn't read it properly. But I skimmed. It actually doesn't matter when I'm attacking specific posts and not overall gameplay. So I'll keep my vote on you and if you can't reveal why I'm wrong I'll get you lynched. Enlighten me. | ||
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Why don't you simply convince me I'm wrong???? | ||
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On November 22 2014 00:12 Damdred wrote: Stop being lazy VE, you haven't really tried to convince anyone that HF is mafia you have just kinda took pot shots at him and put your vote their. And I really just don't see scum!HF from what the little you are showing us He actually is. I just find weird his sudden shift. Anyway, VE isn't caring to get me on the right direction if he thinks I'm wrong, so I'm sticking my vote on him. | ||
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On November 21 2014 05:50 Holyflare wrote: Towny looking 7. VisceraEyes 6. raynpelikoneet 14. Alakaslam 8. Fecalfeast 4. liancourt Could be towny 13. ritoky (maybe up a tier) 11. Chezinu (undecided whether up or down so middle but townyISH) meh 2. The_Templar 3. KillerSOS 5. Hopeless1der 9. sicklucker 10. GlowingBear 12. Damdred 4 mafia is quite large LOLOLOLOLOL HF no way. No way. Your vote is stuck in ritoky yet you believe he could be town. You call out lian for being very very strang and yet he looks townie. Now you're going against VE who was on you top town list. What are you doing? | ||
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HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BELIEVE VE IS TOWN WHEN HE SAYS HOPELESS IS MAFIA, THEN WHEN SUSPICIONS ARE BROUGHT TO HF, HE VOTES HOLYFLARE, THEN WHEN RAYN SAYS TEMPLAR IS MAFIA, HE SIMPLY CHANGES HIS VOTE, DISMISSING HIS PREVIOUS SCUMREADS | ||
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On November 22 2014 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Shut up gb, ve is town. Yeah. Good luck with the game | ||
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Which is a horrible logic, as town will scumread him for that also, or he will be shot. Slam, Templar could simply vote on an easier wagon. Instead, he decided to push VE, who is a strong and very vocal player. I HATE the fact that Rayn says he misread VE but didn't question him for the thinks I've brought. I also hate hopeless in this game. | ||
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On November 22 2014 07:02 sicklucker wrote: The templars defense has stepped up some, I always sheep rayn its what I do im easily the newest player in the game. That being said his reads after his first 2 I liked really sucked. Sheep mode off | ||
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Sick licker Killer SOS Ritoky Chez Hopeless | ||
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On November 22 2014 07:16 sicklucker wrote: You hard push ve now hes not even on your list? Is this because everyone sees him as town and your trying to save face? One of the biggest filters in the thread. Wrong strategy to kill him today. I'll go to day2 with good information on him and I can also get more stuff from him to solidify my read on him. I can't afford going to day2 with people I have too little information. I like to lunch the scummiest lurker day1 | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:11 ritoky wrote: this doesn't seem like a reads post a mafia about to be lynched would make. although i find it weird that templar has sheeped almost word for word a couple things i have said and responded directly to some of my posts yet doesn't know i exist. I agree with you. Cool. | ||
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Damdy, I'm town. Let's work together. | ||
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Not a good day1 lynch Let vigi deal with him | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:19 Alakaslam wrote: I disagree. I am questioning the likelihood that VE is not actually vig since he seems content that HF is not getting lynched. Ja. VE isn't vigi and I didn't say he was. He is most likely not vigi so... I don't know why this matters? We do have a vigi because it is an open setup | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:20 Alakaslam wrote: In other words I am starting to actually believe VE is Vig. And he will shoot holyflare. Yeah. Oh ok Have in mind VE said he was going to shoot me on Hearthstone but he wasn't vigi I'm not sure if it was hearthstone now. But it was a game where he was town | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:22 Alakaslam wrote: This is the worst reason not to move. Paint not so hard. Vote for your strongest scumread and nothing less. Srsly you make me want to switch to you Sick lucker lynch is a good day1 lynch btw | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:26 ritoky wrote: have you explained why and i forgot, or could you do the splainin? His posts doesn't look like he is trying to solve the game. He noob claimed 3 times or more. I hate noob claims. It looks like he is trying to get away from people pressuring him by just saying he is new. He is new yet he just said VE is like confirmed town. I think a new guy would be pretty uncertain. Every newbie is confused. Why is he so certain VE is town? | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote: So which is worse, someone refusing to play the game and antagonizing others or someone who noob claims incessantly? Also have you given an HF read, I would like an HF read from you plz. I know lian could do that as any alignment so I'm hesitating. He is more likely to do it as town than as mafia, as you can see on Hearthstone. I don't have a read on HF, I've pointed out one post of his that showed he wasn't really sticking to his reads. But I have a stronger read on VE. I find hard to believe they were two mafia bussing each other. | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:50 ritoky wrote: you don't think anything of HF leaving his vote on a town read all phase instead of using it to pressure people and indicate who he wants to lynch? Yes, I've pointed it out before. I admit HF is acting weirdly. But well, so is VE and so is Rayn. I am extremely confused on who to lynch between these. But they are three of the most vocal people in the game. I think it's okay to let Themis and reevaluate them on later days. What is very dumb thing to do is to let scummy lurkers live. We won't have enough information on them. | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:55 The_Templar wrote: Before I lynch damdred I want to see if he ever does anything more specific than constantly softly mentioning me as towny I have a very strong FEELING damdred is town | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote: GB can you expand on this? i feel confused. (Why on red?) I'm on the phone so I won't quote the games, but: FFL2 mafia: he claims scum the entire game. He was town. Hearthstone mafia: he shows logical thinking and seriousness. He was mafia. | ||
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It's enough to understand he is null atm | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:57 Hopeless1der wrote: as opposed to towny lurkers? again, can you expand on the who and why's here? Well, town lurkers are most likely to be busy but when they come to the thread they post genuine content. Mafia lurkers tend to come to the thread, throw random comments, sheep and goes into lurkage again. | ||
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On November 22 2014 09:01 GlowingBear wrote: Well, town lurkers are most likely to be busy but when they come to the thread they post genuine content. Mafia lurkers tend to come to the thread, throw random comments, sheep and goes into lurkage again. Or, asking questions, doing nothing with the answers, not taking hard stances, and sheeping. | ||
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Yes, he is. He is also giving me a null read. I know where you're trying to lead your logic to | ||
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On November 22 2014 09:21 Hopeless1der wrote: you had your life back 3 hours ago according to timestamps. And you said you were playing dota. LOL. | ||
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NO DAMDY! WE CAN'T READ OURSELVES AS TOWN WHEN WE ARE BOTH TOWN IN A GAME YOU'RE BREAKING THE SACRED RULE | ||
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Just a joke. I think this is the first time we reciprocally read one other as town. | ||
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On November 22 2014 09:53 The_Templar wrote: Both of you explain your votes a bit better please Nah, it was just a reaction vote I thought holyflare could be following the thread but not posting, so I tried to bait him into posting. Which didn't work, as you can see. | ||
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On November 22 2014 10:13 Holyflare wrote: I actually just made a post + Show Spoiler + On November 22 2014 07:13 GlowingBear wrote: I won't lynch anyone today other than these (in order of preference): Sick licker Killer SOS Ritoky Chez Hopeless On November 22 2014 07:18 GlowingBear wrote: One of the biggest filters in the thread. Wrong strategy to kill him today. I'll go to day2 with good information on him and I can also get more stuff from him to solidify my read on him. I can't afford going to day2 with people I have too little information. I like to lunch the scummiest lurker day1 damd has moved up to the middleish bit of my list though Oh, I'm not willing to lynch you today. As I said, I was reaction testing. But it was to gather information for day2. I'm going back to Killer | ||
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On November 22 2014 10:33 Holyflare wrote: i don't really know You can start by giving your thoughts on my lynch list | ||
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On November 22 2014 10:37 Alakaslam wrote: Thanks GB. Let's get this Rollin plz Yes, let's do this FITE ME! Just kidding. Don't FITE me | ||
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On November 22 2014 10:38 Holyflare wrote: because he's using things as mafia tells which aren't and has maintained that I am mafia the entire game and made no effort to change that read at all and afk's a lot and only returned to antagonise further Ok. Is VE scum? Is Rayn scum? | ||
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I'm having town feelings from people that usually looks scummy (damdred, Templar, ritoky, slam) and I'm having scum feelings from people that usually looks town (VE, HF, Rayn) Oh god I'm loving it | ||
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On November 22 2014 11:10 Holyflare wrote: because hindsight is a wonderful thing and now that read has expired while you did absolutely nothing with that information that you had and instead have dropped SL from the face of the earth as he doesn't feature in your list despite you saying previously that what he was doing was scummy Hmm. This is good. | ||
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On November 22 2014 11:17 Alakaslam wrote: Sometimes RNGsus gives people alignments that are more rich than a host could or would be willing to do This is not outside the realm of possibility GB It isn't, I know. But it's fucking mindblowing! | ||
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HF, you have reasons on Hopeless. He is a question mark to me. Can you consolidate the reasons you read him as scum? | ||
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Lol so many lynch targets | ||
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1) he is mafia and is waiting for his scum partners to shift attention from him 2) he is mafia and is letting himself be bussed 3) he is town and he is really busy/not really caring If it's the first scenario, he probably would come to the thread near eaibe to try to but be lynched. It won't happen anymore since I've pointed this out, but, what can I do :/ I won't be here near deadline | ||
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On November 22 2014 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote: wait this is ms paint mafai Wow. I have no idea what this is. | ||
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On November 22 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote: I gave you a consolidated hopeless post gb??? Sorry, I didn't see it | ||
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On November 22 2014 11:41 sicklucker wrote: I just realized rayn might get mod killed because he went to bed without doing a paint. Is that a thing that can really happen? Man, you're ignoring the whole discussion in the thread. I'm starting to wonder if you are too scum to be scum. | ||
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I'm lynching killer. Good night people | ||
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Lunch scummy lurker. Any. But keep people I can avatar later alive. | ||
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Don't do this. I'm really tired. I'll be really mad if you mislynch me, even if you are mafia. Like. Really mad. | ||
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On November 22 2014 11:57 Holyflare wrote: I FEEL SURE. He is the definition of fucking passive. You agree all he has done is ask questions with no follow up. You agree he's dropped reads on people that are scummy. Why are you NOT voting him??? I'm not sheeping you today, HF Not today I'm not voting him be aide he is being g a five a d not as passive as I remember him on avogadri | ||
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Do you think I, as scum, would be hard defending him so much if we both were mafia? On day1? Lol | ||
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Are you so tunnelled that you are already making unflipped association? Lololol | ||
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On November 22 2014 12:06 Holyflare wrote: I'm not so tunneled. I have made a more than 90% sure read on hopeless which you even agreed to but you'd rather sleep and fuck over the town on the afk lurker instead. I gave absolute reasons on why we should lynch killer He is surviving without being committed to the thread He could have being busy but he was here like 6 hours ago and did NOTHING. He could be interacting, he could be reading the game and giving reads, yet he has done noting. Hopeless, on the other hand, is at least interacting. I'm not saying hopeless isn't scummy, HF. I'm saying he is not. Avoid lynch anymore. | ||
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On November 22 2014 12:08 Damdred wrote: Just got home, GB just stay a litlle longer to try to work this out i'm about to read hopeless now to see if I like him over SL.And sheep me yea? I can't damdy. I'm really tired. And I've made my mind right now. I'm not voting hopeless and I'm keeping my vote on the scummy lurker. See you tomorrow, if you don't mislynch me. | ||
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On November 22 2014 20:32 Holyflare wrote: no you fucked up you are voting hopeless, nothing you say is relevant anymore you have lost your opinion in this game until you sheep me correctly HF, VE has being acting scummy a lot of times. Now, near the end of the day, he comes t the thread and votes with you. WITH YOU. HE WAS SCUMREADING YOU. HE HAD NO REASON TO SWITCH HIS VOTE TO HOPELESS. Why did he vote with his top scumread? | ||
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I still think VE is a better lynch though. You can accuse him for basically the same things you're accusing hopeless | ||
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On November 22 2014 20:46 Holyflare wrote: Who cares if I fucked up anyway? If you are town you are sitting in categorically the BEST fucking spot in this game because I wanted to push off a lurker lynch onto you who is active but people were so very hesitant to do it despite agreeing with me (gb etc) and slam who has sheeped everyone all game decides it's not best to sheep me this time even though he literally sheeped rayn and ve WITHOUT EVEN READING THE GAME you have the most information in this game and all you are doing is sitting there telling us how bad we are you aren't towny So, slam is mafia? | ||
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Like, seriously. I may be wrong on VE, of course I may be. But you're not considering looking his posts through another POV. | ||
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On November 22 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are not going to convince me of VE being mafia here. Just because i have played a shitton with VE recently and while i have not seen his mafia play for a while i know how he plays as town and this is exactly like it. What are your reads on Damdred, Templar, Hopeless and Slam? I read damdred as town, Templar as null, hopeless as leaning scum, slam as null. I had a town read on both Templar and slam, but you're bringing insightful points on him and I'm not sure about slam after the flip. But I still have a feeling they are more likely to be town. Rayn, you're using your feeling over objective reads. What I said about VE IS objectively scum. I just ask you to reconsider reading VE through another POV. We can discuss this later. | ||
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On November 22 2014 23:36 liancourt wrote: Rawr shoot temp You're going to die tonight | ||
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I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so. | ||
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On November 23 2014 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: lolol this is so good! I love you HF. <3 Although i disagree with one thing. I made the best case on d1. Now kiss. Can we start organising reads instead of scream at one another? We still have a lot of bad people. FF, sick licker are two examples here | ||
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Hide nested quote - I can't really stay up any longer... Please just look at hopeless' filter page 2 onwards when the game actually starts and then just sheep me Repeated questions that lead nowhere with no follow up and lots of "what do you think about that person?" and "what about this person?" this is the scummiest trait on hopeless and I agreed on it. But damdred also does it when he is town, and he did it this game. Why lynching hopeless over damdred, in this case? I believe you should be pushing both of them, and not only hopeless. Defending peoples thought processes and telling us what scum do (in regards to templars post) but it was actually quite the opposite and weird (he said mafia want to try and not scum read people in their posts which didn't make sense) this is not alignment indicative and if you think so, I've point something similar from VE but you're not scumreading him right now Scum read SL for interaction with VE but completely dropped any line of questioning to do with SL and despite scum reading him he doesn't even appear in his scum list. When queried where the read went the super weird response of you should have followed it up for me was given which does not show any kind of town playing in the dark thinking at all [b]this is also strong and I have nothing against your logic here[b] Dismissal of ve, rayn and me but previously had town reads on us (maybe not ve?) when nothing had changed in between. I don't think scum would be so careless to flip their reads when nothing has changed. More likely to be town paranoia I'm posting this one last time. I want people that don't have hopeless as their main lynch of choice to tell me WHY these points don't make him scummier than anyone else. I want them to dissect this post and tell me why they disagree with it. I want the people that chose not to sheep me on hopeless but instead lynch our veteran to explain what was wrong with this case and why they chose a guy that wasn't even playing the game over someone who has done only scummy things. Time to step up slackers. it's not a problem of bad arguments, it's a problem of better lynch targets. I was pretty insecure on who to vote but I was also very sleepy. You were a scum mean to me, as VE and also Rayn. VE had a weird push on Hopeless. How can I vote with 2 people that I thought that may be scum? | ||
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Sick lucker is completely strange. He said he will sheep Rayn earlier, but then he admits all veterans are looking scummy, now he says I was voting for 2 towns (him and VE). 1) he is completely sure that VE is town, which is weird 2) but he said veterans are scummy. Wat????? Now just because HF is making unflipped association and saying I am mafia, sick lucker agrees with him. Lol. | ||
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I said that I wanted to lynch scummy lurkers and that is what I felt killer was. I'm doing it since Avogadro mafia. I don't know what more I can say to convince you. I wasn't going to sheep you if I felt you could be scum. I wasn't risking going to day2 with someone I have no information on. | ||
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Sick licker VE Hopeless FF Not in order of preference | ||
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On November 23 2014 04:29 Fecalfeast wrote: GB why you so mad at me? I'm not mad, I love you I just feel like you're not trying your best I simply saw you commenting on the TL Idea Factory and not putting any thoughts on the game whatsoever. Only when I pointed you out. Which is scummy | ||
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On November 23 2014 04:45 sicklucker wrote: This is ff's standard town play. Last game he was just watching starcraft the whole game. Ive never seen his mafia play tho I find adorable that you already have a meta read on a new player as a new player. He does this as both alignments. I'll lynch everyone who is objectively scummy. | ||
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On November 23 2014 04:57 sicklucker wrote: im just saying ff is null and your reason for scum reading ff is terrible lol. I'm lynching you. | ||
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1) I thought killer SOS was scummy for coming to the thread when his name was brought up and never trying to at least interact with people. 2) I had scumreads on hopeless and VE but I decided I should keep them alive because I could reevaluate them better on day2. I'd rather lynch a scummy lurker than a scummy but informative player. 3) Someone I was leaning scum on lead the lynch on hopeless, which made me hesitate 4) It seems people are trying to shift the responsibility for lynching killer to me. Funny, I voted him 3 hour sbeidre deadline and I was really asleep. Also, there were people voting with me. Also, there were people online voting for other people, but they mostly wasted their votes. By the way, I'm feeling the mafia agenda is to blame me and get me mislynched. Think like this: why would I do such scummy action on day1? If I have perfect information, why would I assume hopeless is scum and vote for someone else? I could simply defend my scum partner, call him town, and lynch my target without drawing that much attention. | ||
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On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote: This is wrong in so many ways I can't even believe it, like it is basically gibberish to me. You don't seem to even understand the accusation. Look at your hopeless read, look at your VE read; do you see them? Look how developed they are, look how much work is there, look at the nuance that is in them. Now look at your killer read: it is "lol afk, lol excuses"; it is shallow to the point of laughable. There wasn't much content there to work with, but the simple fact is the guy did NOTHING, like literal nothing, and you had actual scum reads; yet elected to vote on the dude doing nothing. Then you vote on a wagon being LED by the person you just scum read in hopeless, who you also happen to refuse to vote on for no stated reason. Like in what world does this make any sense? I scum read you, but I won't vote on you for no reason, instead I will vote with you for no reason! I sincerely doubt you actually have a leaning scum read on HF, because the way you conversed with him made it seem like you knew he was town. "why would i do such a scummy action day1 if perfect information?" Plain ass mafia statement. Every caught mafia says this stupid line. However I will humor you, why did LT attach himself to a crap read day 1 last game with perfect information? Because people make errors, do stupid crap, and get caught. I caught LT, and I caught you. Die scum. Well, now that you say it, it was really bad that I voted with hopeless. You are right here. Not the best play. You caught LT that game because he was obvious scum (or jester in my opinion, because he was looking too bad to be mafia). He WANTED to be caught, he wanted to be bussed so his partners would get credit. I don't like you dismissing most of my arguments by just saying its gibberish. This "mafia always says this shit" is bad, anything can be said by both alignments. You know that pretty well. But now that you mention my read on VE: what do you think of it? | ||
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On November 23 2014 11:09 ritoky wrote: VE is spending too much time yelling at people and not enough time finding scum. He was okay at the start, then he got into pissing matches. But he voted on hopeless so he is town for now. If he keeps just yelling at people, I will move him out of town. So in a sense your read isn't entirely wrong; but he voted not on the blue but on the guy I wanted to lynch, so... Not sure if VE updated his HF read (cuz he didn't say anything in the thread), but I am also surprised you are not pushing even harder on VE for this: then he votes on the wagon HF is pushing for. Maybe he has the soul read on me as town jesus and is sheeping me, but the fact that you're not driving that point down your top scum read's throat is even more reason for me to believe you're not coming from a town perspective. Uhm... I've pointed it out before. VE isn't committed to the game either. The problem here is that you're assuming I knew killer was town; even more, you're assuming I knew he was blue. Even scum couldn't know that. You're also admitting hopeless is scum instead of bad town. You agree with me that VE looks scummy but you townread by simply having unflipped association and not considering he could have bussed IF hopeless is really scum. | ||
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On November 23 2014 11:21 ritoky wrote: ??? I voted to lynch hopeless of course i think he is mafia??? and there's a diff btwn pointing it out and forcing the issue. if you really were in deep on that read you would force the issue. and i think you're mafia so of course i think you knew killer was town and hopeless was mafia? Question: when did you really decided I was mafia? | ||
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On November 23 2014 12:20 ritoky wrote: i have a 4 page filter, it's not that hard to comb through. but i guess i can do your own work for you: like you're not willing to find it yourself or push your VE read? what are you willing to do? man that was tough to find!!!! owait Lol ritoky. You could've think I was scummy before the lynch but still not mention it in the thread. Your stance against me, and this post of yours in particular feels so forced. I'm re reading the game to have a better grasp of my reads, although I think I may die tonight without been able to post them. This is what I'm saying: you're reading me as scum ONLY because killer was town. You repeatedly say that we lynched our blue, implying people knew that. This is forced. You have a scum read on hopeless. I don't wish to vote him day1. Therefore, I'm his partner. Logic fails. Who else is scum, ritoky? I'm partner with hopeless. Two more guys. | ||
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On November 23 2014 08:03 ritoky wrote: not saying you haven't, am saying i don't remember them, most of what i remember from you is small questions with 0 follow-up from early on and then a bunch of defense. also your filter is shorter than mine, which is bizarre. he had a scum read on someone, detailed the length to which he agreed with the scum read on one of his top town reads (or at least someone he was talking to like he read as town in HF) and for no good reason decided to vote on a null read. when asked to justify he acts like it never happened and he didn't just lynch a blue. then he pursues the same line of thought and same mindset/reads that just led him to lynch a blue. and suddenly he wants to lynch hopeless again???? you just had the opportunity and decided to pass up on it for no fucking reason at all other than "lol dis gai afk" he needs to die IMMEDIATELY. | ||
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VE's bad posts On November 20 2014 16:31 VisceraEyes wrote: Because he's right, HF is weird. And he's mafia and he's going to fucking die. I would be more concerned if he used a positive vague word like "snappy" or "happenin". Is this another "gotcha" moment or something? This logic is completely bizarre. Rayn came to the thread, dropped a sentence, and VE completely flipped his read to call holyflare mafia and never change his vote on him. He calls HF mafia because HF isn't agreeing with him (lol?). He seems to read Rayn as town for no reason whatsoever. Rayn also tried to dismiss my case on VE, then simply said he misread something and did not further comment on it. He is avoiding any real interaction with VE. He is hard defending VE without even considering the possibility of VE being town. But the point is: look at his weird excuse to think rayn's opening wasn't "vague". The wording. He also scumreads hopeless for using "we", so he looks like he is part of town. Lol. On November 20 2014 16:04 VisceraEyes wrote: But you don't think I'm mafia Hopeless, and if you do that PROVES you're mafia. Because you're a good player and you know that this is how I play as town. As mafia I'm totally different, I lurk hard, and I come in with big posts and then play defense. That's my style, and that's how I win. OR lose. There is no such thing as this assumption. This is NOT VE's mafia meta. This self-meta is completely bullshit. He also lurks as town and sometimes lose the game for lurking/not caring too much (see Avogadro). By the way, the correct meta read on VE is this one on spoilers. Hapahauli NAILED it and lynched mafia VE day1: + Show Spoiler + On September 25 2014 06:18 Hapahauli wrote: Got home today wondering if my stuff on VE last night was my own confirmation bias or something legitimate. And I think it's legitimate. Everything about VE's play screams "false confidence". This is a quote from VE in Storm 2 mafia. It's very descriptive of his early town Day 1 play. Town VE likes going for people who aren't active and are not contributing. To go after me this confidently early on is really really unlike his town-play. And this is very consistent through his recent town-games. In LXVIII, he is on a lot of wagons, focusing mostly on Lurkers and newer players. First Fecalcast, then an inactive holyflare, then a brief OMGUS on Rayn before wanting to lynch an afk Palmar at the end of the day due to town consensus. In Storm 2, he tunnles mderg, a classic Day 1 lurker. In Neat and Tidy Mafia, he goes after MysteryMeat for early Day 1, who was inactive/lurkish/etc. In Normal Mini LVI, he reads SloOsh and BH as possibly mafia, but turns down voting them in favor of a lurkish player, mderg: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=14#262 The basic summary is that VE as town is not a player who confidently locks onto one player. He's a guy that's always mindful of inactives, has a self-awareness of his play and the rest of the game, to the point where he will drop his own reads to consolidate with the opinion of the town. To go after me (a vet, and the most active player in the game so far) so early and so confidently is so unlike his town-play. To instantly read two less-active players as town (MM and Damdred) so early into the game is borderline insanity for his town play. Take a look at this quote from VE's most recent town game (LXVIII): He reads rayn as town, but is self-aware enough of his own read-accuracy that he's willing to be bullied off of reads. YOSO Mafia contains my favorite example of this: ...where VE literally gets bullied off of his town-read of Caller pages after he makes it. Self-awareness of his own accuracy, etc. So VE is so mindful of thread sentiment and the opinions of other townies that he can be bullied off of his own reads. Consistently. He'll even swap votes just because other people aren't agreeing with him without even changing his mind about his reads. VE is defined by confidence. And this confidence usually manifests itself through his reads. His early Day 1 play in Catastrophe Mafia: Town reads everywhere. Really confident about them, but also very questionable logic. Tone is half-trollish, half-serious, and VE is appearing to play along with the thread. Sound familiar? This is exactly what he did in this game. Play along wiht the townie points thing, take a very half-serious/trollish tone, and dole out some incomprensibly confident town-reads on MM/Damdred for incomprehensible reasons. His confidence manifests itself in Carnival Cruise through his scum-reads. An initial super-confident push on WaveOfShadow: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/407685-carnival-cruise-mafia?page=22#435 Doesn't really drop his case on Wave, then pushes Oats: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/407685-carnival-cruise-mafia?page=23#443 Then, all aboard the VAYNE TRAIN! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/407685-carnival-cruise-mafia?page=44#876 He's super-confident about all of his early pushes, and by the end of Day 1, thinks all of these players are mafia. Isn't necessarily going after lurkers, and is just indiscriminately going on people he can push cases on. | ||
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To me, VE just look like he has the town traits in mind (aggressive, suspicious, participative) and it's trying to emulate this. Everything seems forced coming from him. | ||
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On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote: i don't think this is a good case at all. flimsy at best. You were also having a scumread on sick lucker earlier, if I'm correct. What changed? | ||
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Why are you ignoring what ive brought from VE? Well, if you're going to vote me, you'll be lynching a townie or simply wasting your vote. | ||
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Lynch VE Lynch FF Lynch Hopeless, maybe (I don't know, I feel he is scummy but there is something making me hesitant to lynch him. Maybe it's because one scumread of mine [VE] was pushing him since the beginning) Take a look at: Rayn, sick lucker, Ritoky Constantly reevaluate HF. See if he is having double standards. If yes, he might be mafia. But he looks townie until now. Good night. | ||
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On November 23 2014 13:34 liancourt wrote: I like how thread sentiment is a pissing contest rather than finding scum I like how you're ignoring my case on VE and not playing the game. I'm constantly forgetting you're playing. You look like a good lynch too as for now | ||
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On November 23 2014 13:41 The_Templar wrote: Agree with this. Liancourtyboy has had about 6000 opportunities to do something other than what he did day 1 (which was basically throw scum accusations at me until I ran out of funny things to reply with). He took none of them. It bothers me that you are reading the whole discussion with ritoky, probably passed by my VE case, but just commented on this, not following up the question you've made me. | ||
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On November 23 2014 13:56 liancourt wrote: I come in when i want and i saw 2 egos having a who has the biggest dick contest Why did u come in? Just to play with me cos u have a hardon LOL Well, I sure have it. | ||
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I feel he is coming from a town perspective but he has some weird traits: 1) he is too passive, as pointed out by other players, specially rayn 2) I've just played a game of 1 hours with him where I was mafia and he read me as town. It bothers me that he isn't hesitating into reading me as town now (he seems to believe I'm town since my opening) 3) he (and VE) were incisive when I "breadcrumbed" being a vigi (I said I was sure liancourt was going to die tonight on purpose, to look like I was breadcrumbing being a vigi, and this way I take the shot, as I'm self aware that I'm not one of the most insightful players right now and I'm may not be because I'm having a busy month). When they saw it, they started to ask questions, which felt they were looking for blues, instead of just shutting up. That's it. Kthxbai | ||
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On November 23 2014 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i don't even have to play. Lynch Templar. Then lynch Slam. Then ask GB why his reads are/were shit and take a close look at Damdred. bang game solved, everyone else was town. Well, I was the only one hesitant to lynch hopeless and he flipped town. Maybe my reads are not that shifty. I have no idea why you want to lynch slam. | ||
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On November 23 2014 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah also i got shot, and FF got roleblocked. Oh right you called us scum. Oh c'mon Rayn, you know roleblock claims are one of the safest claims for mafia. Of course it makes FF more likely to be town, but it does not confirm him. Also, could you explain why do you think slam is mafia? | ||
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On November 23 2014 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: So hey GB who are you gonna push now when all your scumreads or "people you are hesitant about" got confirmed in a way or another? I'm probably with you on Templar. I've pointed out some odd behaviours of him at night and now that you claim being saved, I'm more comfortable with cooperativ with you. | ||
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On November 23 2014 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's really funny you say this. Why in your last post during the night there is no Templar mentioned anywhere? In fact you kinda left out all of the people me and Holyflare talked about except for Hopeless who we know is town now despite taking part to the discussion and NOT disagreeing with us. Then, when you post your "thoughts" your reads are completely different from how you acted a couple of hours before. That sir, is realllyyy scummy. I'm reevaluating my reads, Rayn. That's not scummy at all. I don't know who is scum so I'm changing my point of view everytime. I had VE as certain scum. Have you read what I wrote on him at night? I bet you didn't. Why would I, as scum, flip my reads and draw attention like that? Scum has perfect information, they don't need to do what I'm doing. It's not the safest plan. I've wrote things that were bothering me about Templar. I did it at the very end of the night. You're pushing me without really knowing what my thoughts were. | ||
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On November 23 2014 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you shot me and Holyflare and other people are incapable of going back and rereading. If we both die you have a game plan and noone will most likely go back and read what you actually did. And no, i didn't read a single thing anyone wrote on VE because people wrote townie things were scummy.. And that's retarded. That's exactly what happened Rayn. You've caught me. I have a Luger that I've bought on eBay, recommended by my girlfriend I've met on eHarmony. Because I'm the only mafia in the game. I'm completely afraid that you and holyflare would go against me because reasons. Gg PS: ritoky was much more aggressive against me than holyflare was. In your stream of thoughts, a night kill on him would be the most correct, instead of you. | ||
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On November 23 2014 13:59 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, in case I die, take a look at Templar too. I feel he is coming from a town perspective but he has some weird traits: 1) he is too passive, as pointed out by other players, specially rayn 2) I've just played a game of 1 hours with him where I was mafia and he read me as town. It bothers me that he isn't hesitating into reading me as town now (he seems to believe I'm town since my opening) 3) he (and VE) were incisive when I "breadcrumbed" being a vigi (I said I was sure liancourt was going to die tonight on purpose, to look like I was breadcrumbing being a vigi, and this way I take the shot, as I'm self aware that I'm not one of the most insightful players right now and I'm may not be because I'm having a busy month). When they saw it, they started to ask questions, which felt they were looking for blues, instead of just shutting up. That's it. Kthxbai | ||
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I've explained multiple times why I preferred to lunch killer. Rayn, you're ignoring EVERYTHING ELSE I post and manipulate what I write to fit your scumread on me. Why are you doing that? | ||
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On November 23 2014 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care what elsr you have written. You voted with your scumread while stating you didn't want to lynch someone because your scumread was pushing them. You literally wrote so, and it doesn't make any sense from town perspective. I have nothing else to say on this. Awesome. Lose the game one more time. | ||
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Anyway, this game is pretty much confusing and boring. A lot of people aren't even trying to solve the game. It's happening too much lately. I don't understand why they even bother signing in. | ||
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On November 23 2014 14:27 The_Templar wrote: 1) Meta, not much else to say 2) I am hesitant... I just haven't expressed it as much as I've been thinking it. I don't want to risk discussing all of my reads with you at this point because of that. 3) Soft claims as obvious as that one are bait for me. I will always ask questions when you make a statement like that, also meta. 1) Not meta, we are talking about your overall gameplay in this game, not anyother. 2) You have no reason to not share it with the thread as, as you can see, town is very disorganised and any contribution is valuable. You weren't hesitant with my opening. You said I was locked in one certain theme but that I was town. 3) Again, I'm not talking about other games of yours. I'm saying that it is suspicious that someone, at night, locks on a breadcrumb like that. Not meta. Meta is saying that you're playing like our newbie game together, which you are. This is meta. | ||
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I should also add that it's bizarre that Rayn says he was shot AND healed. There is nothing in the OP that says that the healed person receives a message, when the OP clearly states that the roleblocked person receives one. What was the message Rayn have got? "You were shot but you were healed"? Lol | ||
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On November 24 2014 00:06 The_Templar wrote: It's meta because I do it every game? I'm confused. Are you trying to say that this isn't alignment indicative because you do the 3 stated things every game? | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:01 Alakaslam wrote: Hmm but neither does Templar seem a fool. I shall consider these things. But then, does not Rayn AND VE scumread tehtemplar? Well Rayn scumreads you. What do you think of Rayn claiming being shot and saved? | ||
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On November 21 2014 08:04 The_Templar wrote: How common is sheeping Rayn? I haven't actually seen many of his games. I like this post the most, and it's why I don't like meta-reads. People do change ideas, methods of playing, and the players they are playing against (and their opinions of them), sort of every game. I prefer to stay only inside the thread, so I'm ok with most of the reads on me so far. (Although I have a pretty obvious style of play as both mafia and town that I refuse to/can't change). While this isn't particularly relevant, it's how I am viewing the game which is probably important if Rayn fails to lynch me today. Not much to say other than I completely agree with this post. I like how Rayn completely disagreed, and then read it again and suddenly agreed. What the hell did he misread in order to change his opinion that much? Explain this post (this is the equivalent of getting being a 6 year old getting called to the principal's office) I don't understand this picture. And no there is no vote count. | ||
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On November 24 2014 00:57 The_Templar wrote: sicklucker OK, I have a usable meta read on SL now that Campus mafia has finished, so now I'm re-evaluating what I think of him. As town, he was extremely confident in how town he was, and basically used that "fact" in order to make cases and form reads. He also pretty much ignored WIFOM to do this. + Show Spoiler + On November 07 2014 05:24 sicklucker wrote: ok I misread your message so disregard the second part. Actually the fact sentinel saved cricket from the vote is very town to me Because I know im town. Im gonna have to take another look at sentinel Sentinel where are you???! (Note: he replaced Cricketer12) On November 08 2014 04:01 sicklucker wrote: lol now that was an acual "slip" even tho im town are watcher or medic should come out On November 08 2014 05:03 sicklucker wrote: Im not a good lynch today . Right now in both your mind im just this solo arrogant bad guy but you cant peice together any logical team mates for me because im town. On November 11 2014 09:29 sicklucker wrote: I think if breskes or another longshot is mafia he wins even with 3 lynches. He will just leave serejai me and elvis as the towns and they will just off me. Infact theres 0% chance I dont get mislynched if this game goes on and I know im town so we really only have 2 chances to hit mafia in this game from my perspective. I think this next lynch is very important ff and this is not the auto win your making it out to be, but then again you dont belive im town so.. On November 11 2014 15:00 sicklucker wrote: So something we can go on is who do you think, would think that serejai is the medic? Because thats are last mafia. Im sure whoever was deciding who to block is are last one left since kush and sent didnt care about this game. I know this is gonna get turned on me but im bringing it up anyway (because im town) but who do you think woulda thought serejai was the medic on day 2 and 3? Give a reason. Im thinking he was targeted because he pushed me for something I said about the medic. The list goes on. He also defended himself by saying "I would never do X if I was mafia so I must be town" in various ways. So basically, he based the entire game on him being town and actually took action based on this. He also read players based on their actions based on their reads instead of commenting that these actions should be looked at by other people. So, his thoughts, however bad they might have been, were at least out there before he asked for opinions, at least when the people he was commenting on were talking about him in some way. Now, let's look at this game. + Show Spoiler + On November 21 2014 20:49 sicklucker wrote: Holy this is my first day one. Im giving my first reaction reads because im trying to help. Im sorry if there not up to your standards. Try to see that im trying with my inexperience I could lurk all day and no one would care. On November 22 2014 07:02 sicklucker wrote: The templars defense has stepped up some, I always sheep rayn its what I do im easily the newest player in the game. That being said his reads after his first 2 I liked really sucked. Sheep mode off On November 22 2014 08:36 sicklucker wrote: Glowingbears reason for voting me over his top scum (ve) is because he wants to get out a lurker. Ive had a slow start im not gonna make excuses but feel free to look at my filter in my other on going game. Im not a lurker I post ALOT probably too much. On November 22 2014 14:01 sicklucker wrote: FF why did you vote me anyway. I basically played the same this game if anyone here knows im a standard terrible town its you... On November 23 2014 07:44 sicklucker wrote: GB is a mafia in so many worlds. He voted for 3 towns or 2 if you dont believe me As you can see, his play has been completely different. He seems to suddenly not confirm he's town all the time, but instead keeps pulling the newbie card. Since he barely did this at all in Campus, it's very suspicious that he would suddenly lose all confidence in his town play as town. He did not re-evaluate for any of the first four after the previous game ended as those four posts were before Campus mafia LYLO was finished. So, my belief is that he has been playing completely differently than how he played in Campus at almost the same time, and is therefore a different alignment. Additionally, I agree with a lot of this case by Damdred, which is a decent scum read on SL. | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:22 Alakaslam wrote: This Chupazi soars above my sight; Chezinu likely has discerned it but I require assistance. Do you have binoculars? Oh sorry. Those are actually plastic titties | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:31 The_Templar wrote: Thank god someone actually saw that hole in the logic. It was intentional. I am not having fun this game. Wait, what? | ||
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What I did is a pretty scummy thing. What makes you believe I'm town? | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:36 The_Templar wrote: Why is doing something I don't like to do extremely scummy? If you say that you don't like meta reads, it means you think they are flawed and you use different methods. I would expect that you would came with a stronger, objective read, but what you did was exactly calling someone scum for something you believe is not alignment indicative, which is pretty weird. | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:37 The_Templar wrote: I'm pretty sure you like to lynch lurkers regardless of what alignment you are. And this post is serious bait because you don't actually believe that. I don't actually believe what? | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:45 The_Templar wrote: That your vote on KillerSOS is scummy. Well, I don't find it scummy because I'm town so, lol. But if I was someone else, I would be suspicious of this. | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:49 The_Templar wrote: You literally just said it was scummy. It is, objectively. It's not on my perspective because my role pm says I'm town. That's what I'm trying to say. I know what you tried to do here but it differs a lot from what I've brought from you. Another question: what in my gameplay makes you think I'm town? | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:55 The_Templar wrote: Nothing in particular, which is why I am reading you null. Argh. What about those reads you didn't want to share with me, then? | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:03 Damdred wrote: VE is never scum as an un cc big GB what you talkin bout Talking hypothetically, if he didn't claim, would you read him as scum? Remember that vigi has more than one bullet | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote: Why is that even important? If he hadn't of claimed I thought there was enough to see him scummy It is important because you saw he was playing just like Devil's Riddle mafia, pushed on him, and suddenly your vote was on sick lucker. You didn't seem to push VE like you were scumreading him. You didn't seem to convince people he is mafia. Why is that? | ||
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Alright, VE and Rayn can't be both mafia. If they fake claimed together mafia would lose 2 players. Not a winning strategy. There is noone pushing them so we can assume, for now, that the claims were true. There -are a lot people that aren't insightful in this game. I'm starting to fear the most active players are all town fighting each other. I also believe that mafia would push me for the "scummy" vote. HF is dead and Rayn is probably town, so it leaves ritoky as possible mafia. Specially if you realise that he blames me for killing SOS but he didn't try to convince others that hopeless was a better lynch. Mafia was probably split into the wagons too. Two if the three main wagons flipped green, which means they were probat out of danger in a way they didn't have to consolidate. You can say whatever you want about Chezinu, but he wasted his vote on day 1, and so did lian. I will GUESS the scum team. It means I don't have strong reasons. It's a guess. Slam, ritoky, lian, sick lucker This is my list of preference, then. Slam and sick lucker first, ritoky at the very end. I may not lynch ritoky today and if you give me another opinion (Chezinu, FF), I'm open to it, since I'm hating thee both players too. Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today. Damdred is townish because he had the same read as I on VE on early game and he sounds like town damdred (gut feeling) Rayn and VE probably town for claiming. I don't care for FF's roleblock claim. | ||
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On November 24 2014 07:12 liancourt wrote: This is actually a very good chart. Congrats | ||
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Pls pls pls. | ||
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Nope, I town read him. | ||
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On November 24 2014 07:39 liancourt wrote: wut? Yep. I town read him. I've already said it here. | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:32 GlowingBear wrote: Fuck this, I was going to write this after I have reevaluated day2 interactions but people don't want to play. I'll write it now and do the things I should be doing. Alright, VE and Rayn can't be both mafia. If they fake claimed together mafia would lose 2 players. Not a winning strategy. There is noone pushing them so we can assume, for now, that the claims were true. There -are a lot people that aren't insightful in this game. I'm starting to fear the most active players are all town fighting each other. I also believe that mafia would push me for the "scummy" vote. HF is dead and Rayn is probably town, so it leaves ritoky as possible mafia. Specially if you realise that he blames me for killing SOS but he didn't try to convince others that hopeless was a better lynch. Mafia was probably split into the wagons too. Two if the three main wagons flipped green, which means they were probat out of danger in a way they didn't have to consolidate. You can say whatever you want about Chezinu, but he wasted his vote on day 1, and so did lian. I will GUESS the scum team. It means I don't have strong reasons. It's a guess. Slam, ritoky, lian, sick lucker This is my list of preference, then. Slam and sick lucker first, ritoky at the very end. I may not lynch ritoky today and if you give me another opinion (Chezinu, FF), I'm open to it, since I'm hating thee both players too. Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today. Damdred is townish because he had the same read as I on VE on early game and he sounds like town damdred (gut feeling) Rayn and VE probably town for claiming. I don't care for FF's roleblock claim. | ||
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On November 24 2014 07:47 The_Templar wrote: No, I'm not currently. I might also note that I might have seen that post better if you bothered to unvote me. Interesting that you voted me and then read me town based on the exact same post, though I VOTED SLAM WITH A HUGE PICTURE A HUGE PICTURE WITH A BASKETBALL BALL BECAUSE SLAM DUNK | ||
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On November 24 2014 07:49 liancourt wrote: I've pushed him and I've reevaluated my scumread on him. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:00 ritoky wrote: so why isn't everyone in the game voting on GB? Because I'm not scum. You would realise that if you actually cared for the game. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:05 liancourt wrote: "Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today." @GB Elaborate on how your scum read on temp evolved to a town read on him Ok. Motives I have scumread Templar 1) He is too passive, he is not really pushing the game forward 2) He says he hates meta reads but posts a meta read and says it was on purpose (lol?) 3) He wasn't hesitating to town read me (or at least to be suspicious of me) when he knows I'm capable of look townie when I'm scum. 4) He is parroting some people at some times (parroted me on VE, parroted damdred on sick lucker) Motives I am now townreading Templar: 1) He is putting effort in the game (he has one of the biggest filters, he is interacting and giving reads) 2) He is taking genuine stances (he parroted people, yes, but he posted reads trying to push town to a different direction when he felt someone is scum) 3) I'm an easy lynch for mafia. He is not trying to lynch me. Period. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:05 ritoky wrote: why are you not mafia? outside of the very clear scum case i made against you, your "re-evaluated" reads seem shallow for someone who professes to have re-read the entire thread; and on top of that (meta read from previous experience) the last time i played against you as mafia you specifically targeted all the mass posters in the game. I haven't re read the thread as you can see when I posted my reasons against VE. Anyway, is love to know where my reads are shallow. They were wrong, but shallow? | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:05 The_Templar wrote: I can't find why you wanted to lynch him in the first place, explain? I haven't explained the vote. I want to know what you think of lynching slam. You and damdred. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:13 sicklucker wrote: gb is just saying that if templar is mafia he has no reason to put scum on me because gb is an easy mislynch or something like that. But I dont think thats very true because templar is so high on everyones radar hes probably getting bussed because of the enivtable veggie shot or lynch so It actually makes sense to put scum on towns or roles if this is the case. Explain to me why it makes sense. To me, it's the exact opposite. He would try to push me to keep himself alive. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:07 ritoky wrote: @lian can you explain the chez mafia read? cuz i str8 up don't even know what that guy is doing. That's motive enough to kill chez. It's already day2 and all we have are images and troll posts. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:22 sicklucker wrote: I Think hes a good veg bullet candidate Not going to happen since VE claimed vigi and he will be roleblocked/killed. But not this night. Only at night 3, since he can shoot 2 consecutive nights. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:24 ritoky wrote: read on VE and rayn, obvious read is obvious whining about people not playing you're wrong about me and have yet to state a reason i am scum wifom about vote splitting people wasting their votes, followed by no pressure scum team with no provided reasons i didn't provide reasons, but let me create a backdoor cuz i know i am wrong on ritoky cuz i have perfect information first actual read of the post airball read on damdred is that enough of an explanation of how they are shallow? WIFOM? Do you sincerely believe mafia consolidated in just one wagon? | ||
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All you have done is scumreading me for the hopeless thing. I'm mafia just for that? And if yes, who are my partners? | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote: probably not, but i don't profess to know scum motivations; why do you? Because that is a standard in most games? Look at the vote count. 4 3 3 1 1 It looks so much that scum splitter their votes. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:30 sicklucker wrote: Glowingbear I hateyour read on ritoky btw its not helping me see you as non scum. I don't care. Lynch me if you will. But give me your other mafia reads. | ||
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Maybe it's even better that town mislynches me so people don't waste day3 still debating me. So you guys that decided your votes on me, let's talk about the others. I'm afraid we are still too much disorganised. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:37 liancourt wrote: This is a pros and cons list. I didnt ask for this. I want you to tell me your thought process on how your read EVOLVED from when temp posted his case on SL and when you voted him scum because of it and what you were thinking when you were "pushing" him. Also on what you were thinking when you wanted validation on your being town by asking temp reasons on why you were town. And then your final thoughts upon making that list post calling temp town. My read on him evolved while I started pressuring him. The question about me being town was important because if he said I was scum, it means he was keeping his options open. He read me as null, which is not good but it's not a scumread. Then I started thinking about these town traits he has. What I'm saying with that pros and cons is that I started reevaluating those traits | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:38 Damdred wrote: id like to talk about this post. Tell me how this makes temp town. Reason three is bad because mafia will townread people a good bit of the time yea? Why are you an easy lynch? Why should you town read someone on that? I think you said in another post that you think actives are mafia, why is this a town tell for temp in this case? I'm partial to SL being scum but what other read or push has temp done today that causes you to say this? Damdy, I'm not townreading temp town reads me (he doesn't). I'm town reading him for trying to push another lynch that isn't me. This is not the same as simply calling someone town. He is the main wagon. I second that because of the hopeless thing. So, I'm and easy lynch for that suspicious vote. He is forcing a more difficult read Why are you PARTIAL when you made a case on sick lucker? Do you want to lynch slam? I think INACTIVES are mafia. You read me wrong. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:43 Damdred wrote: This isn't protown GB and you know it martyring never saved town anything and if we lynch you to not debate you tommorow what would we be stuck on then? Temp? Chez? Slam? Optimum play is to scum hunt defend yourself when necessary and push your lynch so stop it Don't get me wrong, I'm putting all my reads into the thread. I'm having a hard time to reason them because of inactivity. Unfortunately, it's most likely a gut read. But Slam, man. He is just not trying. It's different from any game I've played with him. He would come sometimes to put town in the right direction. He isn't doing this this time. He is just commenting and peacing out. He also is refusing to give information (when I say refusing I'm not saying actively refusing, but ignoring questions, for example), which is something he teaches his coachees. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:44 ritoky wrote: can't right now, watching sounders and seahawks game simultaneously, maybe later i will show you This is why I want to lynch you. You're forcing this lynch on me or at least drawing suspicions to me. But when asked to give other reads, you refuse. I'm almost sure you're scum. | ||
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On November 24 2014 08:47 sicklucker wrote: Ya you should never let yourself get mislynched in this game. I dont care what people told me in the other game its just stupid. If you know your town, leading people to vote anyone else besides you increases chance to catch scum. ... So you're not seeing I'm doing it? I don't have to defend myself, I have to catch scum. I don't care if you mislynch me. What I'm trying to say is that maybe mislynching me is not detrimental to town because they will know my reads are genuine and they will have a lot to reevaluate. Also, people won't waste day3 debating that old hopeless discussion. I've coached Breshke and Serejai. Townies. Bah. But talking to you is like talking to a wall. You act like you know a lot from the game yet you bring the newbie card a lot. ... Actually. That's pretty weird. | ||
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On November 24 2014 09:00 liancourt wrote: you know you're re evaluating him for the same reasons as you saw him as scum and mafia can just as well say someone is town/null so easily and you take that action as him being townie and he made a "bait" case on SL which is like saying "guys this isn't a real case I just wanted to see if someone would take the bait, don't berate me for having bad logic". WTF is this? And now he has no scum reads. HIjole~ I just can't understand how you can call him scum and then revert back. It's like you wanted to prove to town that you could call him scum, but was afraid that it might get traction. And later when temp flips scum you can say you read him scum at one point. Do you understand that's a horrible, horrible play to a mafia? To call his partner scum and suddenly flip his read? This draws so much attention it's insane. So you think I'm able to stop his lynch from getting traction? Do you think I'm acting like I'm trying to save a possible scum partner (nobody knows his alignment yet) or that I'm actually trying to solve the game? I've already explained damdred that thing you're talking about townreads. It's not the same thing. I don't understand the bait thing. I thought he was being sarcastic | ||
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On November 24 2014 09:04 sicklucker wrote: Wait what Serejai said she didnt have a coach and that was evident from her play. I think breske said the same thing. Not super relevant but you could be lying for some reason here Breshke posted it after endgame and Serejai said she wasn't using her coach. I'm lynchig you. You could have just take a look at the endgame. Lol. | ||
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On November 24 2014 09:08 ritoky wrote: reads: VE - town rayn - still town lian - maybe town fecalfeast - very slight mafia lean damdred - leaning mafia templar - leaning mafia GB - mafia not particularly strong feelings on the rest, wouldnt be surprised if there's a mafia between slam and chez and i am wrong on someone. I'm mafia calling 2 of my partners town when people are calling them scum. Yeah, right. Very deep reads you have here. Owait. | ||
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On November 24 2014 09:11 ritoky wrote: told you i couldn't and would later, you bitch and whine that i won't even give you a hint; then i give them to you with the promise of explanation later, and you whine some more. like srsly you have 0 agenda with this other than to piss me off. Yeah, take your time to find reasons behind your reads. | ||
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Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts. Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome. | ||
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On November 24 2014 10:03 The_Templar wrote: No, my post before emphasizing how much I dislike meta reads was the 'bait'. The primary purpose was to see who was actually reading. Unfortunately, GB found it too quickly so it was pointless This doesn't make sense. 1) What can you draw from people actually reading? 2) Why is it unfortunately, as it proved someone was reading? | ||
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On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote: I'm out people. Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts. Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome. Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him? Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him? Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read him If you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both. | ||
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On November 24 2014 12:07 Chezinu wrote: sicklucker ritoky liancourt The_Templar GlowingBear Damdred VisceraEyes Alakaslam Fecalfeast raynpelikoneet KillerSOS (4): The_Templar, Hopeless1der, GlowingBear, Alakaslam hopeless1der (3): Holyflare, VisceraEyes, ritoky sicklucker (3): Chezinu, Fecalfeast, Damdred TheTemplar (2): liancourt, raynpelikoneet liancourt (1): KillerSOS Damdred (1): sicklucker Uhm. You're reading slam as town? And also... how do you believe lian and Templar are partners after all that had happened in the thread? | ||
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On November 24 2014 11:49 Damdred wrote: Sorry just got home from work crazy day. I'll start off with Slam. I really don't know how to read slam, Oats or VE told me you can tell something about slams alignment how freely he posts and if he makes posts that actually make sense. If thats actually correct then he looks townish even if he was wrong on the kos. Templars is a really hard alignment for me, i had a town read going into the night with him with how he was thinking. But his night activity with hitting me over the head for thinking he was towny really set me back on him and left a bad taste in my mouth. He read me as pinkish at one point during the night (mafia lean) I take it, but now has me null by his last drawing, his case for today was some form of trap for people to stumble into which doesn't make much sense to me. He also said last night that if my play did not improve dramatically he would lynch me but besides a few posts in response to me hasn't really pushed me or tried to get me lynched despite my activity being low again today in fact he only mentioned my scum read SL and I think hes willing to vote with me. All of its really weird play when you consider last night and today and fell off activity wise so i'm moving him into my scum lean category I disagree on slam, but what you've said about Templar is damning. That's really bad. But the bait thing, for it's craziness, is a town trait, not mafia. Unless I've got him and he lied about the bait thing to justify the contradiction. Argh. I'm having such a hard time reading Templar.. | ||
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He used the bait thing to see who was reading the thread but he admits he wasn't reading the thread properly. He missed my townread on him and he missed my vote on slam. The vote on slam is a giant image. Why the guy that isn't reading is trying to bait guys that aren't reading? Meh. | ||
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On November 24 2014 12:30 Chezinu wrote: Categories: Willing to lynch didn't read their stuff much Don't want to lynch yet. I <3 VE, slam, and ff. Rayn is just useful to keep around. Sorry I haz no <3's for you.. This makes me sad No problem though. We are at least agreeing with two scumreads. | ||
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On November 24 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote: Also was just rereading something to see if i remembered correctly, besides SL and his paint Temp hasn't given reads today even though hes asked and dodged a lot today about them. Also his read on SL is just a trap so not sure Why didn't you go at him again about those reads he was hesitant to share with you before GB? Hmm I asked him again but I forgot about this. I don't remember if he answered, also. | ||
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On November 24 2014 16:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE vore for GB. He voted with his scumread while his reasoning for not voting for Hopeless was "my scumread pushed him". If you're town you're losing the game. | ||
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On November 24 2014 15:35 Alakaslam wrote: Thanks TL This like the gal laughing @ u when u ask GlowingBear on a D8 She is GB BFFFR you kno? And she has that tanline, Hijole is it HAWT or thtoopit? Slam, I may send you a naked picture of me if you give me reeds | ||
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On November 24 2014 20:41 GlowingBear wrote: If you're town you're losing the game. Like, Rayn, think for a second. The main two wagons were town. If I kept on SOS, I'd hammer a town. If I switched to Hopeless, I'd hammer a town. Either way, I would be taking responsibility for lynching a town. WHY THE FUCK I WOULD DO THIS? I WOULD NEVER DO THIS IF I WERE MAFIA. I WOULD VOTE OUTSIDE THE MAIN WAGONS TO AVOID RESPONSIBILITY. I did what I did because I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE'S ALIGNMENT. Also, your Templar push is finally getting traction. You've made a huge push in him. BUT NOW YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME OVER JUST ONE SIME FACT. You're not even reading what I'm posting. COME ON! | ||
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On November 24 2014 21:49 ritoky wrote: @GB: "if you're town"; so do you not believe him when he claimed to get medic saved? I find his claim weird. Could be legit, that's why I'm reading him as town, but that's all. This is the thing: medic can aim anyone, including mafia. So a mafia could be healed and come here and claim he was healed, getting town read. This makes his claim questionable. What is even weirdly is that Rayn said he got shot AND healed. There is nothing in the OP that's says you receive a message when you are healed. There is nothing in the OP that says you're notified when you are shot but survives. Rayn claimed BOTH. You know what could have happened? Luger fails, mafia Rayn is healed, he comes to the thread and say he was shot and healed to try to confirm him as town. This is not WIFOM. This is very possible. | ||
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OP says you receive a message when you are roleblocked OP says nothing about being healed and shot. Tbh, after I'm writing this, I'm more inclined to believe Rayn lied and we should lynch him. | ||
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On November 24 2014 22:14 ritoky wrote: yeah but i just pulled this from another game that is currently running: so i mean, someone should prob run that by the mod to see which rules are going on here It's Blazinhands game and I doubt sentinel will answer this as it will affect the reads completely | ||
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On November 24 2014 22:20 ritoky wrote: this isn't what i find strange about it at all btw. the fact that he didn't claim just to be saved, but he claimed to be shot AND saved made it a lot more credible to me because it felt like he had checked with the mod about the rules or something along those lines to verify the particulars of what it meant. what i found strange about it was that it took all the way until me now for someone to even question it. especially after a lot of people were in the last game where me making an error regarding rules and mod confirmation had bad consequences for town. I've questioned it. You don't know because you're tunnelled and not actually reading what I write. | ||
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On November 24 2014 22:26 ritoky wrote: huh so it seems you did, guess i missed this somewhere. my bad. why the hell did no one follow up on this thought at all???????????? who was around when you posted this and just accepted it as fact? like why wouldn't people be skeptical especially those in the last game? This is actually a post I've just posted. The other one is way back on the start of day2. | ||
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On November 24 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is an idiot if he rhinks me and ve would do something this stupid as scum because if i am scum it means ve is scum aswell. So in case that's the case and there is a vigi ve is auto-lynched. In case there is a doctor who didn't doc me BOTH of me and ve are auto-lynched. RIGHT GB!!! SUCH GREAT SCUMPLAY ROFL! That dude is telling the confirmed townies are mafia. ROfl. Again. ROFL!!! LOL Rayn. Your claim is questionable. VE's claim is much less questionable. I have being paying close attention to the thread. If there is a vigi out there, the correct play is to not counter claim. He can shoot VE night 3 or if he dies/gets lynched, VE is dead. So yes, not a good play as scum but it will keep him alive until night3 if he is. Not the worst play. The medic claim simply doesn't make you town or scum. The shoot claim does. But if you're mafia and the Luger fails, you can pull that out. So your claim means nothing unless its confirmed. | ||
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YOU'RE TRYING TO LYNCH OBVIOUS TOWN AND YOU KNOE IT. YOU'RE TRYING NOTHIG TO CONFIRM YOUR READ ON ME OR TO SOLVE THE REST OF THE GAMD. YOU JUST WANT TO LYNCH THE SHIT OUT OF ME BECAUSE YOU'RE MAFIA OR INSANELY BAD THIS GAME | ||
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On November 24 2014 23:40 Alakaslam wrote: Hi. This is a good point. I actually wasn't here, but it is something I had already considered. It is highly unlikely to be false however and a really dangerous move for scum to pull because the medic knows who they saved. Therefore, while not holding Rayn 100% confirmed, I am basically consid- Oh yeah. Rayn also sees well with the eyes of Hijole; though different from Chupazi the way of Hijole is not useless. For tthis i then say ÁNDALE PUES RAYN You know, medic could actually save mafia Rayn. Anyway, this will confirm itself throghout the game. WHO ARE WE LYNCHING TODAY? | ||
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On November 24 2014 23:59 The_Templar wrote: You mean, medic saves the mafia Rayn from vig, mafia shoots Holyflare and janitor shoots hopeless (who was not generally considered to be towny)? Nope. Vigi shoots hopeless Mafia shoots holyflare Luger fails (50% chance) Mafia Rayn is healed by the doctor. He gets the notification. He sees the Luger failed and claims he was shot AND healed, confirming himself as town. It's more likely that his claim is real, tbh. But this is a possibility, if everytime someone is healed, they know it, even if they aren't shot. | ||
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On November 25 2014 01:03 Damdred wrote: Why those three GB? Why isn't templar in the list? Because I Townread Him. | ||
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On November 25 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote: How do you take his response to what you asked of him right now towards myself and slam then? I'm at work so I didn't put much thought in it. I'm gonna the read it but I read it as "meh" | ||
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You can call me terrible as much as you want, you're losing the grasp you had on how to play this game. I'm not using the too scum to he scum. This is not a trick. These are genuine thoughts. I'm the only one pointing odd things and trying to understand them. You're playing very poorly for not noticing that. You locking on me is scummy. You don't have a single idea how to townread someone anymore. The only thing that saves you from not being scumread is the mod confirmed status. | ||
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On November 25 2014 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: It actually diesn't. I just derped because i happen to know mafia used the luger pistol and wrote the post that in mind. Anyways let's kill GB. He actually implied the same thing i did when we had claimed. Well Templar just did that aswell lol. Idk i am not voting anyone other than gb or templar today. If gb is town he really doesn't have any clue what mafia does and whatnot because he is suggesting insane shit. Also his votinggistiry and reads are terible and the way he contributed with me and hf on n1 makes bo sense from town pov. It's way more likely he was just agreeing with us because then he would shoot us. Do you really believe this shit? Do you really believe it's certainly scum that I was agreeing with you guys because I was gonna shoot you at night? Do you really believe this is alignment indicative, Rayn????? Look at your case on me: (A) Glowingbear voted for an afk instead of his OTHER scumread (B) Glowingbear agreed with me. AWESOME. BEST CASE 2014 GG | ||
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On November 25 2014 03:07 Damdred wrote: What do you think of my case GB? It's good. I just can see it coming from town perspective also. Specially number 2. It's like the notes thing on hearthstone. Meh... I don't know, I can perfectly see him as scum, but I have this feeling that he may be town for the things I've already said. Anyway, I want to know if there is anyone besides me townreading Templar. | ||
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On November 25 2014 03:24 sicklucker wrote: No one is. Thats why it makes no sense for you to defend him as either alignment. If your town all your doing is making yourself look bad which could be two mislynches if your town. Help us find other scum instead. Well, if I am town and I'm having a townread on someone, I need to defend him in order to keep him alive. I don't care for looking bad. I've already said I want to lynch you, slam or ritoky, with ritoky being my last option. | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:04 Alakaslam wrote: This helps. the templar read is baseless? VE and Rayn you have to convince me. Another odd post: On November 22 2014 08:15 Alakaslam wrote: Let's kill Liancourt. Because why not. Someone defense him for to FITE ME because I dont' think he will even defend himself. He agreed before to kill Templar because "the strongest townies were pushing him". But now he wants to kill liancourt, who was Templars target. It doesn't make sense. He was still okay with a liancourt lynch out of nothing. He also blue fished, as you can see here: On November 22 2014 08:20 Alakaslam wrote: In other words I am starting to actually believe VE is Vig. And he will shoot holyflare. Yeah. On November 22 2014 08:22 Alakaslam wrote: This is the worst reason not to move. Paint not so hard. Vote for your strongest scumread and nothing less. Srsly you make me want to switch to you Sick lucker has being acting scummy since the beginning. He was kinda lurking too. He was one of the final wagons. Why didn't slam switched to sick lucker? After this, I can't see any of them talking about of each other. And I've brought them into light A LOT of times. Now, these couple of posts: On November 22 2014 10:37 Alakaslam wrote: Yeah what takes him this time? But HF why do you & VE always fight. I think you are both town On November 22 2014 10:58 Alakaslam wrote: Probably that you all have pants on head and think he is scum while arguing with each other about each other being scum. Like you all fite and call each other scum while you agree that hopeless is scum but you never consolidate on hopeless for pushing each other. It does not look town dude This contradiction bothers me. I don't understand how could be reading BOTH as town but then suspecting HF immediately after. Now, a big, content less post: On November 22 2014 11:21 Alakaslam wrote: ... Chezinu... Anyway so Chezinu does as he does. He plays according to the House of Brown. He is the founder, I visit on occasion. He sees VERY clearly with the eyes of CHUPAZI, my own vision is about 20:20 left eye, 20:32 right eye. However Chezinu sees with a clarity unsurpassed at 20:10 both eyes. As scum he is to be feared. He will snipe every blue and guide the RB, allowing the blues to live just long enough that they do not realize they are compromised. As town he is indecipherable to the scum, suddenly he knows your alignment and you do not know how, but he simply KNOWS. I fear him more when I roll scum than just about anyone on the site. He is not to be lost Day1. Also, this post: On November 22 2014 14:31 Alakaslam wrote: Well this is a lesson The one time I really actively push a lurker lynch with some cojones it bites them in the bloo So activity really is not alignment indicative. ... Butthijole. This is a very forced post, considering he totally agreed with me about scummy lurkers and town lurkers. And again, he is not contributing. What I'm saying is that, from the games I've played with slam, he is always trolly like here, but when town is disorganised, he comes to the thread and put people in the right track. He gives his opinion on who is the best lynch target and who isn't a good target. THIS IS NOT THE CASE IN THIS GAME. You can't find any significant intervention from him on his filter. He is trolly, and only trolly. He looks like he is trying to hard but trying to look participative. He is mafia. | ||
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I AM AT MY CLASS, I'LL READ THE THREAD PROPERLY JESUS THIS IS PISSING ME OFF | ||
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On November 25 2014 11:09 Alakaslam wrote: If you won't listen to my replies to these points why restate them and why should I refute them again. People will not get over the idea that I initially liked the vets for being who they are, and then got suspicious of their constant arguing and did not know what to think since I Townread all three, and they all scumread each other. It is destined to plague me but whatever. Catching up. I see a Templar lynch happening, although I would also like a SL lynch temp is the early dismissed read so I am ok with it. I am sure this contradicts some previous statement but it also jives with others XD I am not closed minded enough to never change my mind. And I do have some solid reads. VE and Rayn are town. Unfortunately all that does is make me a 10 minute hipster now because they were confirmed right after the hopeless flip. Ándale pues Slam, I don't remember you answering these. Can you quote me, please? | ||
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Lets make a bet. | ||
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LET'S WIN THIS MONEY WITH THE WAY OF CHUPAZI! | ||
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No chupa cabra, weon malo. Cabron, tienes que cazar los bandidos! | ||
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You can start fiting me WHY AM MAFIA??? | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:16 Alakaslam wrote: It is good to tango but we say nothing meaningful; let us fite! What say you! Why am I scum? You are scum because you are picking and choosing stuff that has been in my filter for days, that you did not push until 1. Templar did 2. I was starting to be more universally scumread! Lian is scum because he started the bs that led to my catastrophic loss of momentum! Chezinu is scum because srs he hasn't caught anykne?!?!? SL is TEXTBOOK SCUM and yet avoids lynch all this time! But there is WIFOM Notice Rayn seems to not follow up on me after saying he should reevaluate based on Lian Heck i am starting down the too many reads track hijole I went to your filter because I wanted to get examples on how you were not acting town, on how you are not giving insights like town slam, and stumbled with those things Chez is scum because he is not playing the game and it's the second time he is wasting his vote, HIJOLE SL is mafia because I don't know, he looks so much like mafia I think you may be wrong on lian tho | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:23 Alakaslam wrote: Ayyyyy das woman = importance I see it Ah. Well, for your reference: Two posts up O I c. Attention deficit is really a bad condition | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:29 sicklucker wrote: I dont even get why I look like mafia. Anyone care to enlighten me while we got some time to kill To be honest, I don't remember anything from you. Which makes you mafai | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:31 Alakaslam wrote: Hoooooly Sheeit! I totes dinnae see ritoky or even damdred Chiiiiiiiiiing back up this truck (Btw slowdown= loss of pc . ) Cabron! I don't know. Ritoky's push on me looks weird. Meh. I don't really know. Damdred looks town to me. But you're scum HIJOLE | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:35 sicklucker wrote: I see. Well I just feel like im at least trying to figure the game out compared to half the players. Slam finally started to try but hes super confusing and trolly. Im sorry were on the wrong side but I fear mafia is the lurker folk. I dont feel people have unique cases on me but their all sheeping likely mafia. Im not even talking about you, I expect you to scum read me for obvious reasons, other people not so much Yeah. We may want to lynch Chezinu. I'm okay with a Chezinu lynch. Slam? | ||
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On November 25 2014 12:40 sicklucker wrote: Hum I voted gb because he made an I give up post. But he clearly has not. I would be open to killing a lurker but do we have the numbers? I have from 0 to 9 on my keyboard. Slam, you're scum because you're not trying to solve the game and not putting town on the right track with solid and insightful considerations. Period. | ||
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You should know by now that I'm town, Rayn. By the way, we are entering LYLO. I would lynch slam. | ||
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On November 25 2014 23:46 Damdred wrote: Just got up. Rayn doesn't even comment on what I've done just said can't remember bah Cool, who are we lynching? | ||
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Lynch slam. I've already have reasons, but summary: in this game, he isn't having any attempt to solve the game. He is just commenting stuff and being trolley. He is trolly as town also, but when he is town, when he sees people are going to the wrong direction, he comes to the thread and drop very insightful things. This didn't happen once in the game. He also cluttered the thread a few times, which, for me, is a scum trait. I kept it going on to see until where he would go. If he flips scum, check if there was something important going on during those times. Also, this is WIFOM, but: with his medic image, it looked like he was trying to fish blue. Also, WIFOM, but I find hard to believe that KillerSOS wagon was pure town. If that is so, slam is mafia Then, go after sick lucker. The reason ISN'T that he is giving bad reads. The reason is that he noob claimed like three times but he is acting very confident when participating in the game. This is completely scummy. If you are a new player and you assume you're a new player, you would be confused, asking questions, etc., and NOT being certain that someone is scum. He is he because he has perfect information. Then, if those two were mafia, go against Chez. He has done nothing and it's already night2. He was mostly wasting his votes. His vote switch from lian to sick lucker to Templar was EXTREMELY scummy. A lynch on sick lucker could happen and he switched to Templar because...? If sick lucker really flips red, I would lynch Chez without hesitation. I may have being wrong on ritoky, I don't know. He is null for me at the moment. Inquire lian for wasting his votes two times in a row. That's it. | ||
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Bah, my thoughts: Lynch slam. I've already gave reasons, but summary: in this game, he isn't having any attempt to solve the game. He is just commenting stuff and being trolley. He is trolly as town also, but when he is town, when he sees that people are going to the wrong direction, he comes to the thread and drops very insightful things. This didn't happen once in the game. He also cluttered the thread a few times, which, for me, is a scum trait. I kept it going on to see where he would go. If he flips scum, check if there was something important going on during those times. Also, this is WIFOM, but: with his medic image, it looked like he was trying to fish blue. Also, WIFOM, but I find hard to believe that KillerSOS wagon was pure town. If that is so, slam is mafia Then, go after sick lucker. The reason ISN'T that he is giving bad reads. The reason is that he noob claimed like three times but he is acting very confident when participating in the game. This is completely scummy. If you are a new player and you assume you're a new player, you would be confused, asking questions, etc., and NOT being certain that someone is scum. He is because he has perfect information. Then, if those two were mafia, go against Chez. He has done nothing and it's already night2. He was mostly wasting his votes. His vote switch from lian to sick lucker to Templar was EXTREMELY scummy. A lynch on sick lucker could happen and he switched to Templar because...? If sick lucker really flips red, I would lynch Chez without hesitation. I may have being wrong on ritoky, I don't know. He is null for me at the moment. But he has scummy traits. Inquire lian for wasting his votes two times in a row. That's it. | ||
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On November 26 2014 02:04 sicklucker wrote: Bah your whole reason for going after me Is I have an ego? I thought you watched my last game I have a huge ego and ive crushed strategy games all my life. Look at my last game final 4 where I shredded a vet obiwan so hard I thought he was mafia. Im not buying it but I dont mind lynching slam. No. My whole reason is, if you are that confident, pulling the newbie card is completely odd. You are confident or you are a scared newbie. You can't be both. You being this confident makes me believe you've pulled the newbie card so you could be ignored. | ||
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Also, slam, I'm reaching the eyes of CHUPAZI. It will be seen once you post. | ||
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On November 26 2014 02:47 sicklucker wrote: No the day one vote is completely useless now. Everyone getting votes was literally town. That whole ve holy , hopeless shit was worse then we thought. ... KillerSOS was town, hopeless voted him, Templar voted him. Both townies. Votecount is actually informative, but not in the way you're doing it. | ||
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On November 26 2014 05:07 Damdred wrote: we should lynch SL tommorow i think its the best thing to do Oh damdy. Ooooh damdy. Why do I have such a bad time reading you? Why not slam? | ||
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On November 26 2014 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB i like your list. Not the reasoning. Add damdred and you prolly got them all. Teach me, then, sempai. What's wrong with my reasoning and what is a better reason to lynch them? | ||
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On November 26 2014 06:02 sicklucker wrote: Like every mafia in your list was trying to kill me. Im like never the lynch even if you think im mafia were in lylo theirs better targets. We HAVE to hit. Hm, no. They were actually not really pushing your lynch. Just voting you with no real intention to lynch you | ||
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On November 26 2014 06:12 sicklucker wrote: Its not tho in alot of worlds thats what mafia wants to happen to win in lylo. The only people who dont want me voted are the most likely towns. The rest who want me gone are most likely mafia a. It makes no sense for mafia to bus me if ve.rayn.lian,ritoky all think im town if that makes any sense. Two of them are confirmed and the other two are getting the most town read of everyone. I understand if you dont think im town but thinking im the best lynch today is scummy and what mafia should want. Who do we lynch then? | ||
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On November 26 2014 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am dead tired so i only draw you this masterpiece. peace. C'mon Rayn... | ||
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I believe scum is splitting themselves into two distinct circles, and they are pushing the townies like the following image; | ||
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Liancourt was an awesome night kill, it narrows lynch targets greatly. Thank you mafia. Rayn, if Chezinu claims being the doctor while not believing you're town until now he is obvious mafia. I don't know how good Chez is but this looks so lame that it looks like he is trying to draw attention to be the lynch target. In other words, I don't believe the roleblocker would be so careless to commit that mistake right now. | ||
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Killing the confirmed mafia right now isn't that good because we know what is going to happen at night. Ritoky will be roleblocked and VE will die. We will be in the same situation we are in now in the next day. We should risk lynching other player trying to find the roleblocker instead lynching Chez today. If we manage to kill the roleblocker, game is solved: ritoky saves VE, VE shoots Chez and we just have to figure out the other two | ||
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On November 26 2014 21:55 ritoky wrote: @GB 2 questions: 1) why should i read you town? 2) if you are town, then there is 1 other town in the game outside of me, VE, and rayn; who is it? 1) Because I'm town. Period. I've put more effort into figuring the game out than anyone else. I'm one of the most prolific players in the thread, since when nobody is talking, I'm constantly trying to put thoughts here and to keep the thread going on. I can't convince anyone I'm town. You should evaluate that for the way in playing this game. 2) I have read damdred as town for a while. He has both of his scum and town metas. As I stated before, I'm having a hard time reading him properly. But now that you say it, I think SL's claim is fake. This is WIFOM, but: lian court was never going to be healed. It seems to me that it was a good strategy to kill someone, let the medic waste his power, and have someone claim being roleblocked to get town cred. So it makes FF the final town. What do you think of it? What do you think of damdred? | ||
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On November 26 2014 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are town you should KNOW who is mafia. Yet we "don't have a strong idea whoi is mafia". Ok man... This game is so laughable. Lol Rayn. You've done nothing in this game but bragging and calling me scum without even reading what I write. You had Templar as certain mafia and me as certain mafia. You were wrong in both. If you have a strong idea on who is mafia like you had before, you simply have no idea. But you can tell me who is mafia so I can never vote him. It may help. Ritoky, who did you heal this night? | ||
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On November 26 2014 22:37 ritoky wrote: i healed rayn again, thought the mafia wouldn't target VE cuz he can't shoot in fear of potentially losing the game. so i was deciding between protecting confirmed town or protecting my other town read: lian (in the event the mafia went hunting for medic). ultimately i figured protecting a confirmed versus a read was the better course; turns out i was wrong. Lol you thought of protecting lian? Lololol. Anyway, what do you think of the others things I've brought to light? | ||
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On November 26 2014 22:52 ritoky wrote: yes, there was literally a 1% chance VE died last night in my mind, then rayn was confirmed, and i had 1 other town read who was role bait for days. it was basically a coin toss in my head. chose wrong. as for your points, i am a little confused by you at the moment, might be because i am about to go to sleep. but you seem to be REALLY overcomplicating this. if you're town you need to find 1 town read out of the non-ritoky,VE,rayn players left and then the game is auto from there. as for my personal opinions on who the 2 other towns are i am withholding those until everyone pleads their case or at least has had a chance to. also i would like to be more awake and thinking properly. Ok, so, this is from my perspective. If I consider every claim to be legit, this would be the list. Town 1) GB 2) Rayn 3) VE 4) Ritoky 5) Chez 6) FF 7) SL Scum 8) Damdred 9) Slam So, of course there are two people fakeclaiming. One fakeclaiming medic and the other fakeclaiming being roleblocked. I believe more in your claim than in Chez claim. But I find bizarre that you had no reaction to it. But I still believe in yours because I can see more of a scum chez than a scum Ritoky. Between FF and SL, I believe in FF claim. It's because at day one, mafia will try to roleblock because they have to block the vigi. FF fits the lurking blue mindset. On night 2, vigi wasn't going to shoot, and medic would probably heal between Rayn and VE. So what does scum needs to do? They need to kill an improbable heal and a possible blue. Liancourt was the option (I couldn't be because I tried to take a bullet on night1). The thing here is: THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THE ROLEBLOCK ABILITY. They can FAKECLAIM being roleblocked and get town credit. I think that is what happened here. Which makes the final list like this: b]Town[/b] 1) GB 2) Rayn 3) VE 4) Ritoky 5) FF Scum 6) Chez 7) SL 8) Damdred 9) Slam Which is most probably the final list. The only thing that I'm hesitating a little is that damdred has being pushing SL the entire game. But the rest is most likely to be scum. Slam is certainly scum and I think he should be the lynch target today. plan for night3 You're mostly confirmed town, ritoky, but if we still have any doubt on who is fake claiming, there is a way to solve it. If we lynch the roleblocker, vigis shot will go through. In case there is only 1 death, someone was healed. If it was vigis target, he just need to say "my target was healed". Then you just have to say who you saved and then you are confirmed. GG anyway. | ||
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So if chez was town and mafia was trying to kill the medic, they would shoot Chez tonight, not liancourt. Lol scum team should just concede at this point. SLAM CHEZ DAMDRED SL | ||
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On November 25 2014 13:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Lynch Priority Templar (6) - liancourt, VisceraEyes, Fecalfeast, Chezinu, Damdred, ritoky sicklucker (2) - Templar, GlowingBear GlowingBear (2) - raynpelikoneet, sicklucker liancourt (1) - Alakaslam Well, damdred is probably mafia. He made a case on SL but did nothing to push his scumread and, in the end, he didn't vote for him. | ||
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On November 27 2014 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Glowingbear is mafia because he "doesn't know who is mafia" by his own words yet he refuses to lynch the doctorclaim who couldn't tell i am confirmed town on D2. Rofl where am I refusing it? I'm just sure slam is mafia and I doubt chez is the roleblocker. Everytime you call my reads absurd, I am right and you are wrong. I'm not calling you bad, I'm saying you're not playing this game at your level. It's a shame that you still have no idea that I'm town. | ||
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And we will still have this uncertainty day4 So I would rather risk and try to lynch the roleblocker instead. Which is slam or SL (probably more likely to be SL but too risky to lynch him IMO) | ||
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On November 27 2014 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: FF is never going to be mafia. There were 3 blockable roles on N1. There is pretty much no mafia team in this world that doesn't use the roleblock on N1 because of "town credit". FF was not suspected for many people (tbh pretty much the only thing that mattered was me + Holyflare because we were actually starting to agree with each other). Neither of us thought he was scum, hell we were even both pushing townies as our #1 suspect so there is no reason NOT to try roleblock a possible medic/cop (vigi was gonna shoot into town anyways - regardless of who that was, because top 2 suspects were Hopeless and Templar). I don't know about SL's claim. The fact is they were bluehunting because they shot liancourt. But idk, if they believed him to be medic why not shoot for example me? It is perfectly possible that sicklucker is indeed mafia but that is for later. I think him and GB should be taken a hard hard look into because GB is saying dumb stuff. LIKE REALLY DUMB!!! There is no other possibilities for mafia. I wanna see what scum does now, but we are definitely lynching Chezinu today. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING WHARRGABRL | ||
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On November 27 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: So your solution is to coinflip in LESS time? hahahahah ... Roleblocker is killed, vigi shoots, we can afford a mislynch day4 But whatever, I'm lynching slam, chez or SL today. Whatever town decides | ||
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On November 27 2014 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: At least i do not call confirmed townies mafia and not refuse to lynch confirmed mafia. It doesn't fucking matter if we lynch the roleblocker or not because VE shooting scum will put us to MYLO which is basically the same thing. WE DON'T EVEN GAIN A MISLYNCH DO THE MATH FOR FUCKS SAKE!!! YEAH LIKE I REALLY REFUSED TO LYNCH MAFIA HOPELESS AND MAFIA TEMPLAR O WAIT! Whatever Rayn. I'll lynch anyone from the list I've said. | ||
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On November 27 2014 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also you have done very well in lynching mafia in this game aswell GB. At least i can get people to do what i say.... Mafia is very grateful for that. I hope they thank you for all the mislynches. | ||
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On November 27 2014 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: we are 5-4. lynch mafia 5-3. mafia NK + vigi = 4-2 HEY LET'S MISLYNCH IN 4-2, OK?!?!?!? kthxbye Oh yeah, you're right here. My bad. Ok I'll stop arguing. Let's focus. What do you think of my list? | ||
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He is my weakest scumread. I had him town for the most part of the game. | ||
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Consider how active I am, how I'm dropping opinions on the thread. Consider the way in evolving my thoughts. Consider, specially, my effort into solving the game. Through my perspective, game is completely solved. You only have to figure out my alignment and the rest you can do by process of elimination, as you can see on my lynch post. | ||
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On November 27 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: wow Damdred voted for Templar because "Templar voted for SL for his reasons" which is what he had been pushing all game before. hahah.. Maybe i should also read unmemorable posts. Well that's better for SL and worse for GB, except that Damdred never voted for SL... mehhhh.... ... VE, you'll probably have to convince Rayn that I'm town be dude he is refusing to see it. | ||
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On November 27 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: You have to pick from me, VE, FF, and ritoky... So go ahead and pick. If you read my list post you'll see that I'm putting Damdred as scum, but that he is my weakest read. You don't think I should lynch my strongest to my weakest first? Think of it this way, Rayn: why would I, as mafia, say that I'm only afraid of lynching Damdred? Why would I doubt sicklucker's claim? Why would I be so open to do that mafia list? | ||
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LYNCH ME THEN AND FUCKING LOSE THE GAME. I SOUND LIKE ELVIS. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M MAFIA. LYNCH ME. LOSE AGAIN BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO TOWN READ ANYMORE I'M DONE | ||
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On November 26 2014 23:18 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, so, this is from my perspective. If I consider every claim to be legit, this would be the list. Town 1) GB 2) Rayn 3) VE 4) Ritoky 5) Chez 6) FF 7) SL Scum 8) Damdred 9) Slam So, of course there are two people fakeclaiming. One fakeclaiming medic and the other fakeclaiming being roleblocked. I believe more in your claim than in Chez claim. But I find bizarre that you had no reaction to it. But I still believe in yours because I can see more of a scum chez than a scum Ritoky. Between FF and SL, I believe in FF claim. It's because at day one, mafia will try to roleblock because they have to block the vigi. FF fits the lurking blue mindset. On night 2, vigi wasn't going to shoot, and medic would probably heal between Rayn and VE. So what does scum needs to do? They need to kill an improbable heal and a possible blue. Liancourt was the option (I couldn't be because I tried to take a bullet on night1). The thing here is: THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THE ROLEBLOCK ABILITY. They can FAKECLAIM being roleblocked and get town credit. I think that is what happened here. Which makes the final list like this: Town 1) GB 2) Rayn 3) VE 4) Ritoky 5) FF Scum 6) Chez 7) SL 8) Damdred 9) Slam Which is most probably the final list. The only thing that I'm hesitating a little is that damdred has being pushing SL the entire game. But the rest is most likely to be scum. Slam is certainly scum and I think he should be the lynch target today. plan for night3 You're mostly confirmed town, ritoky, but if we still have any doubt on who is fake claiming, there is a way to solve it. If we lynch the roleblocker, vigis shot will go through. In case there is only 1 death, someone was healed. If it was vigis target, he just need to say "my target was healed". Then you just have to say who you saved and then you are confirmed. GG anyway. It's not that I don't want to lynch damdred. I do t want to lynch him first because of the 0,000001% probability that I'm wrong. | ||
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It felt over explained because I revealed all my thought process. I'm always trying to look all different scenarios, so I post them to try to eliminate every impossible option. So, was it more likely that your heal claim was legit? Yes. Was it possible that it came from a mafia, though? Yes. I've scumread you not for that claim, but for misinterpreting me/ pushing me without considering all my other circumstances. Specially after my entrance. That VE thing was bullshitty. Sometimes, I have a hard time to get my message to go through. I think explained them in detail would help people understand me and my POV. Because, yes, those four on my list are certainly mafia for me, but, as I said, I consider ALL scenarios, and I can see slam in all of them. That's why I want to lynch him first. I've never pull out the donkey town with you in the game as mafia. I know it wouldn't work again. | ||
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On November 27 2014 02:58 Alakaslam wrote: I can't believe liancourt decided I was scum because for a bit no chupazi and rayn jumps on it so everyone just defaults to scum. Then I go nuts on pc and all gb gets from it is "Nope still scum no insight" SERIOUSLY we have not lynched one mafia and I am near universally scumread and you expect insight to even be noticed if it miraculously happened under such pressure?!?!?! You take me for that cool headed of an individual?! 1) Why do you assume I'm town? 2) You can still put us in the right direction if you're town, slam. I'll be waiting for it. Because, seriously, if chez is really the medic, then it's his fault he will lose the game. | ||
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On November 27 2014 03:13 sicklucker wrote: I softed medic at some point trying to take a bullit ill bring it up no one really caught on. I think it makes more sense for ff's claim to be fake. Since it was night one mafia is definitely going to use it with more targets but at the same time they would probably gas to not help anyone be semi confirmed. That being said we can both be real. The only medic candidates left were me ritoky and lian. Lian gets killed so its a 50/50 I get blocked im not shocked. Alright gonna finish catching up and find that. And chez. Funny how in your mind you forgot to put chez. It's like you know he isn't the medic. Scum slip. | ||
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Believe me please. Lynch the list I've made. Please town, believe me. | ||
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Slam will come and say that there isn't a thing as scum slip. But this counts so much against SL. So fucking much. Again, if ritoky is fakeclaiming I blame the real doctor for the loss. | ||
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On November 27 2014 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote: ^ I'm no good at convincing rayn of anything, anyway. Of course I have to convince since if I get mislynched, this game is over. Anyway, my list is there to read. I've done as much as I can. I'm waiting for your decisions. I'm also waiting for slam putting us in the right track if he is town. | ||
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On November 27 2014 03:39 sicklucker wrote: Gb is not trying to convince the people he needs to convince. Hes just making havoc. I think ve should decide on are lynch. Rayns been off this game so hes the logical choice. No gb you dont control are lynch stop trying your one of the unconfirms. Lol "can you just not resist so I can mislynch you please?" Bah. See you guys . | ||
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But anyway, he's in my list. Choose a target. | ||
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Oh God. | ||
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Oh hai Nice beard. This game is so confusing. | ||
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Yeah, damdy, if you're really vigi and you said that, you've simply lost the game. There was no single attempt of yours to lynch VE after he claimed, which makes no sense for a confirmed mafia. Slam is still my top target, but I would lynch you last day, anyways. Also, we can't reciprocally read each other as town, as I stated on easy game LOL | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:19 Damdred wrote: GB I couldn't risk getting shot early when we can hit mafia today and then shoot a mafia please help me There are subtle ways to push people damdy. You voted on Templar, with the confirmed mafia to you. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote: I really hope that him not considering the possibility of a roleblocker MAKES him the roleblocker. Fingers crossed. Setup is open and I bet it's slam | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Sicklucker looks the best of the two rb claims to me, and he just seems more townie than FF. If we lynch into the RB claims I lynch FF in that situation. Sicklucker is much more likely. Much more. | ||
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I can't do much more. What do you want from me? | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:43 sicklucker wrote: YES! I was about to make a post about how we should decide tormorow. I made the same case in my last game where I was town (ff and rayn were also town) Everyone ignored me and mafia got a free win in the final3 because everyone voted sleep in the final 4. We know slam and chez are 99.9% mafia. Why not decide the game tomorrow? Theres one mafia between me ff and gb. Lets decide Tomorrow while we have everyone alive rather then wait and give the hammer to a probable mafia. Do you seriously believe this is coming from a townie, ritoky? Today was the day to do that. Tomorrow isn't. Because today was the day that we should've killed the roleblocker, so we could have the vigi shot. But you guys refused this idea. Anyway, ritoky, I don't remember anymore but I'm firmly that mafia would kill chez thinking he is the medic instead of killing lian. Lian wasn't likely to be blue for the risk he was taking as being a bait and being mislynched. Therefore, Chez is mafia. | ||
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On November 29 2014 08:57 sicklucker wrote: Vigi shot doesint matter if theirs 3 unconfirmed. It will just leave a final 4 instead of a final 3. We stll have to kill one of the unconfirms at some point why not now if were so confident in those two being scum (we are) It matters if he hits scum and there's a doctor save (unlikely, but not impossible as it is now) | ||
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I've brought very far reasoning that you're mafia. I don't have more to say Ritok, the game is solved to me unless your medic claim is fake, which I doubt. If you want my reasoning, you can check my filter. Chez should be mafias target last night, not lian or sl. Chez is mafia. The only thing we have to solve in this game is who is fakeclaiming being roleblocked. | ||
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15 minutes difference from each time stamp. This vote switch is odd. Nothing happened to make chez to change his vote. | ||
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Something odd happened in this page that could be alignment indicative, as slam started to clutter the thread right there. Can you hemp me find what was it? | ||
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On November 25 2014 13:18 sicklucker wrote: FF you said you dont want to lynch me put by taking your vote off of temp to chez without anyone else doing it makes the vote 4 temp 3 me so your actually helping the scum list you just posted. HAHAHAHA JUST BEFORE THE CHEZINUS VOTE SWITCH | ||
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Do you guys need ANY MORE flipped association to be convinced? | ||
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On November 29 2014 12:23 Chezinu wrote: GB wrong argument. The SL vote was just a placeholder vote cause I wasn't sure when deadline was and had not painted my vote. Read the thread. Anyways, town has already lost. VE is shooting me and mafia kill another townie tonight. We already lost the game. There is no hope. I wouldn't be surprised if Hilter shows up and shoots someone. That'd be 3 dead townies. Game over man, Game over. If that was true, you wouldn't draw "Unvote". Thanks for making the game easier. | ||
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DO NOT GET TRAPPED INTO THAT. Trust my reads and yours. Good night. | ||
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/obs pls | ||
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The noob claim + being confident also convinced me. It's a shame nobody reads what I post | ||
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On December 01 2014 18:07 Chezinu wrote: That was a placeholder vote as I painted the templar vote. I was telling the truth. At least people aren't accusing me of voting lian anymore. Huehue I really thought you voted lian lol I never said he was towny HF c'mon I said that it was a very bad move for mafia | ||
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