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#Vote: [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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I'm told I got to be a part of the three worst games of TL Mafia ever played. | ||
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I don't even know what that means. | ||
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What's in it for me? | ||
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My name is Jasmine and I am an exchange student from Germany. I am 19 years old. Today was my first day of class at my new school! It's a small class - only about ten students - but I will try to make it my own. Upon entering the room I noticed there were only three seats left. I decided to sit in the middle seat and I hope to become friends with the two people who sit beside me! There's not much else to write about at the moment, as I am still meeting my classmates. I hope this will be a good year! xoxo - Jasmine | ||
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On November 04 2014 10:56 Breshke wrote: What about fecals vote on elvis. if you think they are partners what do you think was going on there. Random vote for Elvis, immediately followed by a "jk Elvis is cool now in my book for no apparent reason", and then continues to follow elvis around like a lost puppy for the rest of the thread. Pretty standard bad scum play. ##vote Fecal | ||
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Still leaning Elvis because of how much he contradicts himself. Starts off calling out Superbia because "Surely trolly behaviour is typically scum". Then once Sentinel says the same thing, Elvis suddenly flip-flops and says "so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy... Okay I guess." in sarcasm and proceeds to call Sentinel scum. I come into the game with a troll post as well and, once again, Elvis does a complete flip-flip and suddenly trolling = obvious scum again. Don't know how you guys play online mafia but this is pretty cut and dry mafia play for IRL games. I would put Bresh, Grack, and Sentinel as town at the moment because they're the only ones that seem to notice some of the sketchy posting by Elvis. Lightning is null to me; he may post scummy but surely if he were mafia his teammates would step in and help improve his posting - unless they are intentionally trying to throw him under the bus. If Lightning gets lynched and turns town we should probably look at the people who were pushing for him (coincidentally Elvis is at the top of that list). | ||
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On November 04 2014 23:21 Elvis! wrote: Sooooo you define town solely on people who are "detecting my sketchy play". Yes, detecting sketchy play and thus hunting scum is what town does. But there has been sketchy play by quite some people - especially by straight up lying. So because you tunnel me, any scummy play by people who aren't me is irrelevant to you apparently. Why don't you define town by them being useful in catching scum. They can and are supposed to question everyone's play including mine, but you can't define town by them tunneling on the same guy as you . You basically just said "yeah my play is scummy but so are other people so it's not fair to only go after me". Nice scumslip. You're half right, though; you're not the only person with scum posting. Fecal also has some sketchy posting and - what a coincidence - you two have been sheeping each other. Lightning is also scummy but there are only three mafia, and I'm more convinced you and Fecal are mafia than him, and it wouldn't make sense for you two to go after your third member. For him to be mafia then you and Fecal would need to be town, and I don't see that happening. He's also a very convenient push for you scum tonight because he's a new player and if he comes up as town you can just pull the "well it was an honest mistake, he sounded scummy" card. Free townie out of the game for you. Cricketer has been AFK the entire game. batsnacks is scummy as shit as well. He's posted a lot but they are all no-content one-liners, and a quarter of them are just defending Elvis for no apparent reason. Apparently Elvis is in his magical confirmed town circle. kush is practically AFK, so leaning scum here Immaterial also seems scummy. His first posts were jumping in to agree that Superbia was scum - "In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia" and claims that he doesn't understand how to play. If you read his later posts, though, they don't read like a new player anymore. He seemed to gain a lot of knowledge on how to play overnight. The only two people that don't seem scummy are Bresh and Grack; nobody else is really pushing a town agenda. My order of most scummy to least scummy would be: Elvis Fecal batsnacks Lightning kush / Immaterial | ||
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You start off the game with Superbia: I'm voting Superbia because I think he is the scummiest player and deserves to be voted. You stick hard to this even after everyone else jumps off him. It's not until I call out Elvis that you suddenly switch your vote and start tunneling on me. In fact, you ask Grack who he would rather lynch between me and kush. He tells you kush and you completely ignore it and continue to tunnel on me while also telling everyone to take their votes off Elvis. Kind of strange that after I call out Elvis as scum you and Fecal both come out of the woodwork and start tunneling me + posting about how innocent Elvis is. Before that neither of you had posted much of anything in the thread. Gonna stick with you three being the scum team. | ||
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I would be willing to change my vote to Immaterial as well, and here's why: This is a player that is new to mafia; his first game. He even states this somewhat at the beginning of the thread by posting that he doesn't understand what tunneling is, and votes for Superbia because everyone else was at the time. On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote: In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so: ##vote: superbia As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange. He reaffirms that he is a new player by posting that he had to go to some mafia wiki and look up how to play: On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote: I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context. A few hours later he makes a giant post about various people: On November 04 2014 14:47 Immaterial wrote: Sorry guys, haven't had a whole lot of time today so I'm just now reading the thread. Time is likely to continue to be tight for me until Thursday due to work obligations. I see that many people are getting scummy vibes from me, and I understand to a degree. I readily acknowledge that my posts haven't been particularly valuable, and my analysis has been limited. Hopefully I can change the trend by extending this post beyond merely defending myself. But I have to start there: In response to Lightning's post in particular, you said that I "seem[ed] to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post." In fact, the only reason I made the post in question is that I was prompted by Breshke to explain further. My explanation perhaps was not based on the most sound possible reason, but it was my sincere feeling at the time regarding Superbia.What some of you have perceived as suspicious or scummy behaviour is in fact just my honest efforts at forcing myself to contribute. My natural tendency is to lurk and speak when spoken to. I will attempt now to give my overall impressions of some of the other players in here and my reads on them. My confidence level on all of these reads is quite low, but I want to at least demonstrate that I'm putting effort towards trying to figure things out. I was sketched by the Superbia thing, but now that he's back I don't really detect negative vibes from him. I feel like I jumped the gun significantly on my vote, and as such would like to ##Unvote. I intend to think my next vote through more carefully -- if not based on my own analysis, I will try to make my it based on sound analysis from another poster. I was initially sketched out by Breshke. He just asked a lot of questions and made a post or two that I thought were questionable early (the "decent player" comment and the one about mafia putting in effort). As the thread has progressed, my read has reversed. At this point, I feel Breshke has been one of the more concise and contributive posters. My read on lightning is neutral. His suspicion against me was reasonable, but I do think designating me as "top scum" is a bit much. In regard to Elvis!, somewhat early on I had a strange thought. Elvis! kept mentioning the Superbia posts, but repeatedly placed emphasis on the fact that how Super follows up the posts is what really matters; in his words, " His reaction is all that counts. So I imagined that Elvis + super were both aligned mafia, and that Super would come back and make a post or series of posts that would negate the suspicion drawn early. Thereby wasting our time + evading blame. In this scenario, Elvis' posts were intended to help ensure that everyone only paid attention to Super's subsequent reaction. Perhaps this is silly, and I'm not even close to convinced of it now (if i was I may not have retracted Super vote), but it's a thought. As for Elvis' more recent posts, I've seen some people voting for him to by lynched, but I haven't seen any posts from him that really jump out at me. I do get a general negative vibe from him, but I can't substantiate the claim enough to really say that I read him as scum. Batsnacks -- initial read scum (pretty unfounded in retrospect), now neutral. Grack -- Neutral, leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating. FF -- Neutral leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating. Seraj -- Leaning scum. His initial comment was of absolutely zero value and was intended to be of zero value. As well, I disagree with this read: "Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia." I just didn't get that feeling at all, and this comment seemed baseless. His subsequent vote for Fecalfeast seemed somewhat suspect as well. This is my best effort at analyzing what's happened so far. If there's a point I didn't extrapolate on, you can bet that it's more of a feeling than a firmly-rooted analytical conclusion. The problem with this post is that the person who posted this and the person who didn't know what "tunneling" meant a mere hours before seems to have learned a great deal in a short amount of time. Feels like someone hopped into mafia chat for a while and was told what to post in order to salvage what was turning into a bad situation for him. He doesn't actually say anything of substance in the post, either - it reads more like a PR announcement. It's basically a gigantic post about how certain people aren't scum, but there's no actual explanation as to why they aren't scum; they just aren't in his opinion. | ||
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On November 05 2014 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: ##Vote: Serejai That vote and the rationale doesn't sit well at all with me. Explain yourself, please. Lol, the rationale doesn't sit well? That's a very scummy thing to say. I know I'm town, and I don't know what cricket is. Therefore, if the lynch is going to be me or cricket... why would I let myself stay in the hot seat? I don't think cricket is scum, but I know that I'm not; so if it's him or me, I'll choose him. I thought you were town but this post of yours is scummy as shit. | ||
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On November 05 2014 04:00 Breshke wrote: Morning guys here earlier than expected because i couldn't sleep. Im really not sure on serajai at the moment but that might just be because her scumlist is almost everyone i said i wanted to lynch earlier. Also if she is mafia there is at least one scum in the people she called out because the others i hope i think i have a fairly good town read. Superbia if you are around id appreciate if you'd change your vote as sentinel isn't getting lynched today. Also i still don't see why kush is getting a pass today. Since my post on him not one person has called him mafia or expressed the desire to vote on him. This could also attribute to me wanting to read serajai as town. i've been one of the most universally town read person this game so I find it interesting that no mafia joined this wagon on kush. I know my case was weak as he hasn't actually posted anything that is scummy per-say it is more in his lack of posting considering his hype in the pre game. He is still low hanging fruit though so if he is town I see no reason why mafia haven't jumped on this although i might be reading into this too much. Mafia are too busy tunneling me to worry about kush. | ||
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Explain to me again how throwing your lynch vote on a random troll post is a pro-town thing to do? Last I checked lynching townies just because you don't like their first post would be considered a scum thing to do. Not to mention asking scum to quit. How on earth is that pro-town? It's not like the mafia are going to ask the town to quit. | ||
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Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet the scum team of kush, Fecal, and Elvis. | ||
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On November 05 2014 04:18 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright look if you're town, let me break this down for you. This: Is really scummy. If you keep your vote on Cricketer, and he gets enough votes to be lynched, and if you turn out to be right and he's actually town, you're helping scum win. That's one more wasted lynch for the town and one less person to eliminate for the mafia. You don't follow bandwagons either. That's what scum does because other people make misguided cases and then scummers can put nails in the coffin. Now here you have a case on Immaterial. But after all that evidence that you dug up on him and you being convinced he's scum (which is what I'm getting from reading that post, you don't even vote for the guy. Why not? The rest of us will commit to him if and only if you deliver some sort of evidence that says "This guy is definitely the scum, and these guys who you're all voting for right now are town, or at least less scummy than Immaterial". For example I'm voting for you because you have way too many scumreads, are doing the most scum-beneficial things possible right now, and the people who you're voting for doesn't equate to the people who you think are scum. In other words, to answer your question, you're letting yourself stay in the hot seat right now. So here's what I want you to do, if you're town: 1. There are three scum in the game. Give me the three who you think are the most scummy in this game. If you're really unsure about a third, you can do an alternate fourth. 2. Tell me why those three are the scummiest players in the game. 3 (optional but recommended). Before you post, play devil's advocate. Think about these players being town, and try to justify their actions. Use this to refine your final judgment. 4. Pick the scummiest of the bunch and vote for them. You list four things, and I've already done them all. 1) I've stated my scumlist numerous times in this thread (Elvis, Fecal, bat, kush / Immaterial), and all that resulted from it was all four of them voting to lynch me. 2) I've stated why I think all of them are scum, and this resulted in my scumlist tunneling me. 4) I've picked the scummiest of my scumlist (Elvis) and voted for them, which resulted in everyone getting scum reads on me because apparently Elvis is confirmed town. Unlike some people in this thread who change their minds every few hours, my scum list has been consistent the entire game. | ||
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On November 05 2014 04:31 Breshke wrote: Jasmine changing your mind is hardly a scum tell. You need to look towards peoples reasoning as to why they changed their mind. do you agree with this reasoning/would it make yo change your mind, if yes then you can look at it as towny. If no maybe they are just misreading something so you question them about it or call them scum for it. You have given hardly any reasoning fr your scum team so how can anyone do this with you. It feels like you are just pulling names out of the pool of people calling you scum. I have given plenty of reasoning for my scumlist. kush, Elvis, and Fecal all voted for me without any reasoning other than not liking my initial post. The entire reason I made a troll post to start with is because that kind of stuff nearly always baits out at least one mafia in real life games. I figured it would work equally well in an online format, and so the people that fell for it went on my scum list. Elvis and Fecal went straight to the top because they immediately started tunneling me - which was pretty convenient for them, because they were both on a lot of people's scum lists. I also stated why I felt they were both mafia together: On November 04 2014 11:15 Serejai wrote: Random vote for Elvis, immediately followed by a "jk Elvis is cool now in my book for no apparent reason", and then continues to follow elvis around like a lost puppy for the rest of the thread. Pretty standard bad scum play. And then I stated why I think Elvis is scum: On November 04 2014 22:16 Serejai wrote: Either Sentinel is scum or Elvis+Fecal are scum. Still leaning Elvis because of how much he contradicts himself. Starts off calling out Superbia because "Surely trolly behaviour is typically scum". Then once Sentinel says the same thing, Elvis suddenly flip-flops and says "so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy... Okay I guess." in sarcasm and proceeds to call Sentinel scum. I come into the game with a troll post as well and, once again, Elvis does a complete flip-flip and suddenly trolling = obvious scum again. Don't know how you guys play online mafia but this is pretty cut and dry mafia play for IRL games. I would put Bresh, Grack, and Sentinel as town at the moment because they're the only ones that seem to notice some of the sketchy posting by Elvis. Lightning is null to me; he may post scummy but surely if he were mafia his teammates would step in and help improve his posting - unless they are intentionally trying to throw him under the bus. If Lightning gets lynched and turns town we should probably look at the people who were pushing for him (coincidentally Elvis is at the top of that list). And the rest of my scum list: On November 05 2014 00:28 Serejai wrote: You basically just said "yeah my play is scummy but so are other people so it's not fair to only go after me". Nice scumslip. You're half right, though; you're not the only person with scum posting. Fecal also has some sketchy posting and - what a coincidence - you two have been sheeping each other. Lightning is also scummy but there are only three mafia, and I'm more convinced you and Fecal are mafia than him, and it wouldn't make sense for you two to go after your third member. For him to be mafia then you and Fecal would need to be town, and I don't see that happening. He's also a very convenient push for you scum tonight because he's a new player and if he comes up as town you can just pull the "well it was an honest mistake, he sounded scummy" card. Free townie out of the game for you. Cricketer has been AFK the entire game. batsnacks is scummy as shit as well. He's posted a lot but they are all no-content one-liners, and a quarter of them are just defending Elvis for no apparent reason. Apparently Elvis is in his magical confirmed town circle. kush is practically AFK, so leaning scum here Immaterial also seems scummy. His first posts were jumping in to agree that Superbia was scum - "In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia" and claims that he doesn't understand how to play. If you read his later posts, though, they don't read like a new player anymore. He seemed to gain a lot of knowledge on how to play overnight. The only two people that don't seem scummy are Bresh and Grack; nobody else is really pushing a town agenda. My order of most scummy to least scummy would be: Elvis Fecal batsnacks Lightning kush / Immaterial I've given all of my reasoning for why I think these players are scum, and somehow that's not good enough. But, when these same players claim I'm scum and provide no reasoning at all... that's somehow acceptable? Double standards are fun. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Elvis | ||
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On November 05 2014 05:07 Elvis! wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Serejai The wagon seems good, but I can't leave my gut feeling with Sere at this point. Let's get this wagon to go on him instead. I will still start a wagon on Lightning as soon as this day ends, I promise. We will get him lynched eventually Calling it now; Lightning is the roleblocker on scum team and Elvis knows they can't afford to lose him. | ||
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On November 05 2014 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote: Sucks having to counterclaim D1. Hope we have a doctor. We do. | ||
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However, that "420 blaze it baby!" part at the end of your last post immediately made me want to lynch you even if you really were the cop. | ||
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On November 05 2014 05:38 LightningStrike wrote: I talked to some people and they told me it was Detective= Cop plus I had played SC2 custom game Mafia before and that closest I can get role wise on the words. I've played the SC2 mafia game, too. In fact, I'm immortalized on the official development forums for that map. Detective and Cop in that map are two completely different roles, so there's no reason for you to think they are the same role on here. | ||
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I'm a townie. I was going to be lynched. If Lightning was mafia why on earth would he change his vote like that? It doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe after I flip town one of the veteran townies can come back to this post and try to figure out why Lightning switched his vote. If he ends up being mafia then it has to be because the other two mafia are bussing him for whatever reason. | ||
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As such, I'm just going to sheep Bresh for the time being. If we're no longer going to lynch LS then you should probably all throw your votes on me. The sooner I flip town, the sooner the rest of my town brethren can go after the real scum. | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:18 Grackaroni wrote: Oh I didn't even see the claim from LS. Looking for a better wagon while taking notes lol. I think inmaterial is a good lynch IS THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAID ABOUT HIM? Please say yes. | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:20 LightningStrike wrote: Other than my experience in SC2 Mafia some cops are called Detectives in real life and if I was Town Watcher he would of told Town Watcher not Detective/Cop I'm not saying you're scum... but everything you say is so wrong. As I stated earlier, Cop and Detective are two completely different roles in SC2 mafia. You claiming that you though they were the same in this game because of SC2 Mafia makes no sense at all because they are two different roles there. Why would you assume they were the same role here based on that? | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:22 Grackaroni wrote: No it's from my brain. I liked what you said though I looked at your filter first and then switched to inmaterial I would be happy to start a vote on him if you want to join in. I'm really not comfortable with lynching LS at the moment, or Sentinel - and nobody else wants to lynch Elvis. I would be ok with lynching Immaterial, though. | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:28 Fecalfeast wrote: I guess we can confirm LS later and even if he did it so scummy-like, he is the only one hard claiming cop. I still don't believe him.. ##unvote can I get a link to an immaterial case? I have to leave in less than 15 minutes. You can have mine, but you probably won't like it. On November 05 2014 03:58 Serejai wrote: My vote would still be on Elvis if I had a choice, but I do not; it doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to commit to him. I would be willing to change my vote to Immaterial as well, and here's why: This is a player that is new to mafia; his first game. He even states this somewhat at the beginning of the thread by posting that he doesn't understand what tunneling is, and votes for Superbia because everyone else was at the time. He reaffirms that he is a new player by posting that he had to go to some mafia wiki and look up how to play: A few hours later he makes a giant post about various people: The problem with this post is that the person who posted this and the person who didn't know what "tunneling" meant a mere hours before seems to have learned a great deal in a short amount of time. Feels like someone hopped into mafia chat for a while and was told what to post in order to salvage what was turning into a bad situation for him. He doesn't actually say anything of substance in the post, either - it reads more like a PR announcement. It's basically a gigantic post about how certain people aren't scum, but there's no actual explanation as to why they aren't scum; they just aren't in his opinion. | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:34 Fecalfeast wrote: Yeeaaahhh, I like the inconsistency point but again anything you claim to be from scum chat could also be from coach chat. Is there any other conclusion you can come to other than he got the info from scum QT? I'll do some looking on my own I guess. Unfortunately coaching makes it a lot harder, but in my opinion his post feels less like "I took advice from someone and wrote this" and more like "my teammates wrote this for me". He also hasn't defended himself at all, so there's that. | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:40 Elvis! wrote: So if someone wants to read up on my case on Serejai: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=22#439 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=26#513 Was your favorite game "Dig Dug" when you were a kid? Because you sure like tunneling. | ||
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Is this real life? | ||
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Today my classmates tried to lynch me. There seems to be a small group of bullies - maybe three in total - that just want to watch the world burn. I tried warning the class of them but nobody would listen. Some even turned against me for being a tattle-tale! I may have escaped a lynching in class, but I feel the bullies will be back again tomorrow to finish the job. For now, I shall return home and heal my wounds. xoxo, Jasmine | ||
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On November 05 2014 05:47 Serejai wrote: I still can't figure out why Lightning changed his vote like that. I understand why some of you might, but from my perspective... I'm a townie. I was going to be lynched. If Lightning was mafia why on earth would he change his vote like that? It doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe after I flip town one of the veteran townies can come back to this post and try to figure out why Lightning switched his vote. If he ends up being mafia then it has to be because the other two mafia are bussing him for whatever reason. Maybe you guys should stop tunneling me so hard and start looking at people that wanted Lightning gone, starting with Imma and Fecal - both on my scum list since the start. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:06 KelsierSC wrote: ok look at the votes, if I am mafia I switch off the guy who I know is cop and potentially allow someone else to be lynched? use your brain, you random vote sera instead of imma which could actually save the cop imma, sentinal, bats scum team gg You know, this fits surprisingly well for me. My top 3 scum were Elvis, Fecal, and bats. I said that if Elvis and Fecal were scum, then Sentinel would be town... but if Sentinel were scum, then Elvis and Fecal were town. Imma was my fourth scum pick. Imma, Sentinel, and bats is actually a scum team I would be willing to get behind - strongly enough that I would drop my scum read on Elvis for it. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:08 kushm4sta wrote: pretty scummy post right here. 1. it's an "i told you so" which scum love to do. 2 have you even read fecal's case on sent? it's sooo so so townie. It was less of an "I told you so" post, and more of me reiterating that LS changing his vote did not make any sense if he were mafia. The person who pushed for his lynching was bats, and Imma jumped in to vote for LS while saying he didn't actually read any of the thread. After reconsidering recent events, I don't think Elvis is scum anymore. Fecal I'm null on because he kept his vote on LS. But, more importantly, let's talk about bats and Imma because their behavior regarding the lynching of LS was scummy as shit. Not only did bats start the wagon on LS (for a reason that I claimed wasn't valid, and nobody listened), but he also had multiple chances to save LS and instead threw his vote on my for no reason. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:24 batsnacks wrote: FYI if exaggerating is necessary to making your point, it's probably not a good point. I unvoted Lightning as soon as soon as he claimed. Then I revoted lightning as soon as KSC claimed. Then I tried to unvote lightning when KSC rescinded with less than three minutes left in the day. You have nothing on me and neither does anyone else. To KSC, lightning was the uncced cop THE WHOLE TIME, yet he waited until there was less than three minutes left in the day because of "shenanies" or something. You could have saved LS in any of the following ways: 1) Not starting a lynch wagon on him in the first place when you had no real proof, 2) Removing your vote off him after I explained why it was extremely unlikely that he was mafia, 3) Removing your vote off him in the last three minutes (which, despite what you claim, is plenty of time) Not to mention the whole "oops, I was a tad too late to change my vote" defense that you gave is the scummiest thing I've read so far in this entire game. | ||
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BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID. Except you put it on me instead of your scum buddy Imma. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:15 batsnacks wrote: And here is batsnacks having enough time to change his vote to me in order to NOT save LS: On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote: Fuck you ##unvote ##vote: serejai Looks pretty damn cut and dry to me. | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote: Fuck you ##unvote ##vote: serejai On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote: Fuck you ##unvote ##vote: serejai On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote: Fuck you ##unvote ##vote: serejai If you had time to change your vote to me (and cause LS to get lynched), you had time to change it to Imma (and cause LS to be saved). But, you didn't because Imma is on your scum team. You've got my vote tomorrow regardless of anything else that develops. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:36 batsnacks wrote: I post from phone, I didn't know what the vote count was, I switched it to you because I assumed incorrectly that you still had the most. Yeah, no. Your last post before the vote change to me was the following: On November 05 2014 06:48 batsnacks wrote: KSC cced lightning, lightning didn't rescind, and there are still people voting outside of these two? Wtf??? At this time, the vote count was as follows: Serejai (1): Elvis! [UoN]Sentinel (2): Superbia, kushm4sta LightningStrike (5): batsnacks, KelsierSC, Breshke, Immaterial, [UoN]Sentinel Immaterial (3): Grackaroni, Serejai, LightningStrike I hadn't been leading the votes for half an hour, in which you posted numerous times. Don't give me that bullshit "I voted you because I thought you were still in the lead" even though you posted half a dozen times while I only had one vote on me. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:38 Elvis! wrote: Serejai going even more full-retard: "You've got my vote regardless of what happens" so in 72 hours there is nothing that can change his mind. This is about as un-townie and lying as you can get. I'm sorry, did I strike a nerve by calling out your scum buddy batsnacks? | ||
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On November 05 2014 12:36 Elvis! wrote:Also you can't really fault batsnacks for not switching in these 3 minutes, since he was playing on a phone. How are you overlooking the fact that he DID switch; only it was to me instead of Imma? You two are scum buddies. | ||
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It's also pretty amusing for me because I pegged you, Fecal, and Elvis as the scum team at the start of the game and now that you've made a scumslip by switching your vote to me instead of Imma at the last second the only two people defending you are... Drumroll please... Fecal and Elvis. That being said, I'm starting to have doubts about Fecal. I'd actually wager the scum team is Batsnacks, Elvis, and Imma at this point in time, and that Fecal is just a clueless dolt that happens to be supporting them. You and Elvis, however, have shown your true colors with that lynching. Elvis / Batsnacks 2014™ | ||
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On November 05 2014 22:59 batsnacks wrote: So... Are you or are you not scum reading me? If you're scum reading me, then you're on the list of people scum reading me... Your list was of people scum reading you because of your vote switch. I'm simply pointing out that you were scum long before that. | ||
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On November 06 2014 00:23 Elvis! wrote: Yes, he did change his vote, but as he already said, he didn't know the vote count at that time, since it's terrible finding something like this if there's like 10 posts per minute and you're on a phone. Scumslips don't happen, don't try to force them But as I already pointed out, he DID know the vote count. Here is a post from BH: On November 05 2014 05:09 Blazinghand wrote: The deadline is in about 2 hours. And here is the vote count at the same time: On November 05 2014 05:14 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Serejai (3): kushm4sta, [UoN]Sentinel, Elvis! [UoN]Sentinel (1): Superbia batsnacks (1): LightningStrike Lightningstrike (5): batsnacks, Serejai, KelsierSC, Breshke, FecalFeast Not Voting (3): Immaterial, Cricketer12, Grackaroni Currently, LightningStrike is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. TWO HOURS. Let me spell that out for you again; I wasn't leading in votes for TWO ENTIRE HOURS. And the excuse from batsnacks: On November 05 2014 07:36 batsnacks wrote: I post from phone, I didn't know what the vote count was, I switched it to you because I assumed incorrectly that you still had the most. So he's claiming that he didn't realize the votes had changes in TWO FULL HOURS, even though he was posting in the thread the entire time and even changes his own vote multiple times in that two hours. And you're defending him? Scum all the fucking way, good game. | ||
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Lightning was leading with Sentinel in second the entire time, until a few votes went on Immaterial to put him in second. Here are some timestamps: On November 05 2014 06:06 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Serejai (1): Elvis! [UoN]Sentinel (3): Superbia, LightningStrike, kushm4sta LightningStrike (7): batsnacks, Serejai, KelsierSC, Breshke, Immaterial, [UoN]Sentinel,FecalFeast Not Voting (2): Cricketer12, Grackaroni Currently, LightningStrike is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. So, at 6:06 I had one vote on me all the way until the end. batsnacks later changes his vote to me a minute before the voting. Between 6:06 and 6:59 - when I had basically no chance of being lynched - there were a total of 8 vote updates posted in the thread. Surely he saw at least ONE of those, in which case he would have known that either Sentinel or Immaterial were the other possible lynch choices. I mean, I was using my phone as well but you didn't see me having any trouble keeping up with the thread. He knew damn well the votes had changed since I was last in the lead (two hours before EoD). So, there are really two outcomes here; either batsnacks is scum or he's just a really terrible player. Who thinks it's the latter? | ||
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On November 06 2014 02:17 batsnacks wrote:Why would I unvote lightning if not to save him? By unvoting lightning, but placing your vote on me, you essentially guaranteed that the cop would die while also giving yourself an excuse. See, you may have switched your vote off lightning... but you placed it on me. So, we're left with nothing but your word that it was an honest mistake that you put your vote on me (which got our cop killed) instead of on Immaterial (which would have saved our cop). If you truly intended to save our cop you would have put your vote on Immaterial. In essence, the way you voted ensured that you and your scum team could still kill the cop while also giving you a convenient way out by claiming you took your vote off, even though you knew doing so wouldn't change the outcome. | ||
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On November 06 2014 07:54 Breshke wrote: Serajai do you think his play has been scummy or is this based of the split vote alone? Also ehs do you think about the fact that he hasn't posted in over 24 hours. Of course I think his play was scummy; that's why I tried to start a lynch on him yesterday, but Grack was the only person to initially agree with me. The whole "hey guys I didn't read thread but I'll vote to lynch cop and come back with a legit reasoning for it soon" crap he pulled last night, and then never came back to explain why he voted to lynch the cop... it doesn't get much more scum than that. Waiting for him to pop in later with some excuse that his internet died or something. As far as I'm concerned he's guilty until proven innocent, and he needs to have a damn good explanation for his vote last night. | ||
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Elvis - Scum, but lynching him wouldn't really give any clues as to who the other scum are. Batsnacks - Same as Elvis. Fecal - Still leaning scum, but far less than I was yesterday. Immaterial has taken over his spot for me. kush - Still leaning scum, but he's at the bottom of my list and has been AFK so much there's really no good way to read him. Bresh - Formerly town, now I'm null on him. sicklucker - null, but leaning slightly town. Hasn't been here long enough to really get a good read. Kelsier - was null, now leaning scum. His fake CC last night could very easily have been a scum move. Once Lightning claimed cop and votes started moving off him, Kelsier could have really wanted the cop dead and as such used a fake CC to get votes back on Lightning. After all, Lightning was kind of bumbling around already so it wouldn't have been hard to paint him as a liar. Then, at the last minute Keslier rescinds his fake CC. Cop still gets lynched and Kelsier is cleared of any wrongdoing. As scum, this would actually have been a pretty safe play for him; he would know Lightning was telling the truth so there would be nobody to dispute his fake CC. Superbia - With Grack gone, this is my only real town read at the moment and I'm not sure how strong it is since he's not overly active in the thread. Sentinel - Thought he was town at first, then he started acting scummy... now I feel like he's null but leaning town, and the reason he seems scummy is because he's just a bad player. | ||
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On November 06 2014 08:11 Breshke wrote: Two people that could have saved the cop but didn't? If you were in his situation would you unvote the cop to kill yourself? Like think in the heat of the moment with those few minutes left would you do that? Also i am not actually convinced he was around at EoD. Also I feel like if he was mafia he would have posted at least one time during the night out of respect for his teammates so he doesn't run the risk of getting modkilled. Don't confuse what I am doing here i think he could very well be scum after reading through his filter his big post here comes off as forced to me but that could also just be a nervous newbie townie. I just think you are rushing into this and not even considering the fact that he very well could be town. Kush on the other hand is the person i would rather lynch today as i can't justify the way he is playing as being town. Of course I would kill myself over the cop; but that's because I'm town, and my death is not really important in the grand scheme of things. Immaterial is scum, so saving the cop would be counter-productive for him - especially if he died in the process. | ||
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On November 06 2014 08:15 batsnacks wrote: This is absurd. Why are people posting yet I'm the only person voting the person who killed the cop? Are all of you mafia? Perspective. There are a lot of people guilty for the death of the cop; Bresh, Immaterial, Fecal, and Sentinel for leaving their votes on him. batsnacks for your failed vote change at the end, and bullshit excuse. Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC. I'd certainly rather vote Immaterial over Kelsier. They were both scummy with the vote but Kelsier could at least justify his if he tried. Immaterial literally jumped in to lynch the cop and claimed he would be back to explain why, but never returned. | ||
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On November 06 2014 08:27 batsnacks wrote: All of those can be traced back to exactly one thing though: Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC. What is KSC's motivation for waiting until 3 minutes before deadline to rescind? There is no town motivation there. You cannot entirely blame Kelsier. I posted well before he rescinded that I thought Lightning was the real cop, and that we should switch votes to Immaterial. Nobody listened to me but Grack, and now he's dead. I think just about everyone is to blame here. The question is who is to blame the most? That's a hard question to answer and I would have to rank it as batsnacks, Kelsier, and then everyone who left their votes on Lightning. So, why am I willing to pass up you and Kelsier to lynch Immaterial instead? Well, let's assume you three are equally scummy; both of you are at least active in the thread, whereas Immaterial is not. I feel that even if he flips town we'd benefit more than if you or Kelsier flipped town. | ||
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On November 06 2014 08:30 Breshke wrote: Also look when immaterial placed his vote. At this time in the thread KSC was still a cc, immaterial would not have known that LS was the real cop as either alignment he just seemed to be voting with what town was doing at the time because he wasn't caught up. Serejai i want you to do something for me now that is legit hard to do in my opinion because i never can. I want you to consider immaterial is town, who now is your scum team? My scum list hasn't really changed. I think it's Elvis + batsnacks, and one other. That third has shifted from Fecal to Immaterial, though, and last night complicates things a bit because now everyone but Grack looks scummy to me for their voting. So, if I were to pretend Immaterial is town... I would probably go with Elvis, batsnacks, and kush. I would like to say Kelsier, but that would either mean I'm wrong about batsnacks or that batsnacks is bussing Kelsier. I don't think either is likely, and everyone else is equally scummy to me... so I'd go with kush because he's basically AFK and not contributing anyway. | ||
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And I'm at war with Immaterial today. | ||
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On November 06 2014 08:57 batsnacks wrote: If you at any point thought Lightning was the real cop, the only logical course of action for you to take (as town) would be to vote KSC since he was the one ccing. Why? Had I moved my vote to Kelsier, nothing would have happened because everyone thought me and Lightning were both scum. On the other hand, as soon as Grack said he was willing to vote for Immaterial I spoke up and said that was a good idea. Convincing people to switch to Immaterial was the only way to save Lightning, and it was something I could do because Grack was supportive of it. I would have had ZERO support for switching votes to Kelsier. It would have been different if people had a town read on me, or - you know - bothered to listen to me when I said it didn't make sense for Lightning to change his vote if he were scum. But nope, everyone - yourself included - was so convinced me and Lightning were both scum that you ignored everything I said. | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:03 Elvis! wrote: I agree with bats and Bresh here. Why blame people who stayed on the vote etc. and not kelsier for making people change their vote back to the cop? He is the one conceiving people here, let's blame the conceiver and not the conceived. These posts by Serejai would make a lot of sense if he and Kelsier would be a scum team. Kelsier making people vote on the cop, not retrieving his CC in time and having a shitty excuse, Serejai blaming people who followed him but kinda sheeping Kelsier even though his actions were easily a lot more controversial. These tunneling posts are getting old. Of course you agree with bats; he's your scumbuddy. The only two things you've done all game are talk about how town bats is and how scum I am. | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:08 batsnacks wrote: I was convinced Lightning was scum because we had a counter claim. That is the reason. And it is a damn good reason. I don't fault you because of your vote on Immaterial, despite what you think I actually tried to switch my vote to him once I figured out I could save the cop by doing so. I think you're scummy for other reasons. Don't come in here and claim you thought Lightning was scum because of Kelsier's counter claim when a) You were the first person to vote to lynch Lightning, b) Well before he claimed cop, and c) Even longer before Kelsier counter-claimed You thought he was scum because you "caught him in my bat trap" or whatever nonsense you were wrong about. | ||
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On November 06 2014 10:10 Breshke wrote: Also why is immaterial scummy? On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote: ##vote LightningStrikes Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late 28 hours later and we're still waiting for this justification he had for lynching the cop. | ||
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On November 06 2014 10:40 Breshke wrote: I agree I expect immaterial to come back to the thread and do his best to portray town and hunt scum. I find it weird that he said he would justify his vote because he admitted to not reading the thread meaning he was going to read him scum no matter what. Serejai do you not think kush is just as bad. He was voting for sentinel with an unjustified vote which also lynched the cop. Yes it wasn't in such a direct way but the end result is still the same. I'm null, slightly scum on kush. The fact that he is AFK is a big red flag to me but he hasn't really posted enough to get a read on. Ideally people who have played with him in previous games should step up and comment on his appearances... or lack thereof, but so far everyone seems to be turning a blind eye to him. I'm concerned about him because whatever he is, he's not really being helpful to town at all... but I'm more concerned about other people at the moment. There are three mafia... can't get them all in one day. | ||
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kush Sentinel Elvis Immaterial kush - Has been afk pretty much all game anyway, so his activity has not really changed. Sentinel - His activity in this thread has dropped noticeably since the lynching. Elvis - His activity has steadily declined all game. He started off being one of the most active players, then threw a vote on me... and ever since he hasn't really contributed anything at all to the game. He's made like three posts since the lynch; two of them were fluff posts that were made to look like he was active but didn't actually contain anything, and the third was him tunneling me as usual. If he's not scum then he's the least helpful townie possible - even less helpful than kush. At least when kush posts it's usually about someone different each time. 99% of Elvis' posts are just tunneling me and not benefiting town in any way. Lots of words with nothing being said. Immaterial - Disappeared after lynching the cop and claiming he had a good reason for it that he would provide shortly. 48 hours later and he still hasn't posted again. In essence all four of these players have been doing nothing at all to help town. I'm actually going to change my vote back to Elvis for what I mentioned above, because he's actually the least consistent of those four. A very close second would be Sentinel, who was active at the start and then tapered off quickly. I think I would be happy to lynch either of those two today, over Immaterial or kush. My vote will stay on Elvis for the time being, though. ##unvote ##vote Elvis | ||
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As far as reading people who have become less active... not so much. I've been on Elvis all game, and I've been on Immaterial nearly all game. For me, nothing has really changed with either of them. However, for all of the people that thought they were town on Day 1... I'm pointing out that they should reconsider based on how their play, or lack thereof, has changed. For kush I don't think much has changed for me; his play is consistent(ly bad). For Sentinel, he was very active early game and now he's barely around at all now that people want to vote him. Essentially those four people I listed are all acting scummier today than they were yesterday, to varying degrees. Those are the four people I think we should look at lynching today, and focus our efforts on reading and whatnot. | ||
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On November 07 2014 18:14 KelsierSC wrote: No mention of sickcricket fucking lol Obligatory vote for his scum slip about there being a doctor. | ||
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On one hand I think he's scum and want to lynch him. On the other hand he's going to be modkilled, so that would be a wasted lynch. Or is he? Maybe he is scum and he's going to be replaced instead of modkilled, in which case the game would pretty much be over because we would have just let a very obvious scum live two days in a row for no good reason. There's also the chance that he decides to show up 5 minutes before voting ends to cast his vote, in which case that kind of solidifies he's scum but it would be too late for us to do anything about it at that point. | ||
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On November 07 2014 22:03 Breshke wrote: I don't know if you are just confused or purposly getting facts wrong to try fear monger. Not lynching imma even if he is scum doesn't mean the game is "preatty much over". If we lynch a town then at the start of D3 it will be 6 town to 3 mafia which is no where close to over. Also when we lynch kush today i'm fairly sure we hit a mafia anyway. How does it not mean the game is over? If we don't hit a scum today that means we have to hit one tomorrow or we lose. You're willing to take that risk? | ||
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##vote sickcricket Current vote count: Vote Count sicklucker (2): Elvis!, Serejai kushm4sta (3): Breshke, batsnacks, FecalFeast [UoN]Sentinel (2): sicklucker, kushm4sta Not Voting (3): KelsierSC, Superbia, [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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a) Nobody else is willing to vote for him, b) I've already made my case against him and the only person that was willing to vote with me was Grack, and c) He may get modkilled anyway It's a wasted vote at this point of time and if other people aren't concerned about him yet after what me and Grack posted then I just don't see it happening. At the moment I would take sicklucker over kush because of that scumslip he made earlier in regards to there being a medic, and thus far he hasn't defended himself yet even though he's posted thousands of words since. | ||
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Lightning claimed he was the cop, so I questioned it (like any decent town would). You haven't claimed a role. Instead, you claim that there is a doctor in the game - something mafia would know. | ||
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On November 08 2014 01:48 sicklucker wrote: Ya serajai a town would QEUSTION WHAT I SAID NOT RANDOMLY VOTE ME OUT OF NOWHERE But I did question what you said... hours and hours ago, when batsnacks called you out for it as well. You still haven't defended yourself. Why did you say there was a doctor in the game? | ||
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On November 07 2014 10:59 sicklucker wrote: And the reason I kept sayin it was at the time I thought I would be a great medic save. Now not so much but I started strong! Why is there a medic in the game? And why would you have been a "great medic save" for Night 1? You had just joined the game and nobody had ANY information about you. Mafia would have you as dead last in their kill list because the town was already suspicious of cricketer, whom you replaced. There would have been absolutely zero reason for mafia to target you last night. What makes you think you would be at the top of their kill list? Furthermore, you are probably the most active person in this thread and yet 95% of everything you post is either about how you are a proven townie because of X, how you are the most important townie because of Y, or how someone else is scummy for asking you questions that you dodge or provide extremely vague answers to. You keep talking about how everyone has a town read on you, and how nobody has a scum read on you... and yet it appears to be the exact opposite. Also, lol. On November 08 2014 02:01 sicklucker wrote: I already said I knew there was 66% chance there was a doctor. Im a number guy I do math for a living. I dont see any problem with amusing theres a doctor when there probably is at that point of the game There are two power roles in town, and three possible roles in total. The cop was dead, so that means there is either a doctor or a watcher. That comes out to a 50% chance, not a 66% chance. For a "number guy" that does math for a living you're not very good at it. I'm getting some pretty strong deja vu here; you remind me of Lightning. I'm halfway expecting your next post to be: hey guys I AM THE MEDIC 420blazeit | ||
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On November 08 2014 02:04 sicklucker wrote: this is his entire reason for voting me btw its very weak Why is it weak? This is your defense to everything. You keep saying this is weak, that is weak... this is wrong, that is wrong... but you never actually provide a counter argument. Are we supposed to just take your word for everything? | ||
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sicklucker just stop resisting and let Elvis bus you. | ||
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Vote Count sicklucker (2): Elvis!, Serejai kushm4sta (3): Breshke, batsnacks, FecalFeast, sicklucker [UoN]Sentinel (1): kushm4sta Not Voting (3): KelsierSC, Superbia, [UoN]Sentinel I have an unsettling feeling that there are two scum on kush right now, and that he's actually our other power role. | ||
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Being a pussy is a clear scum trait, in my opinion. Go tap that ass. | ||
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Why don't you want to be lynched? Please answer this in ten words or less. | ||
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On November 08 2014 04:00 sicklucker wrote: But I do think are medic should come out now were so confused. Does anyone else agree? Second scumslip of the day, while simultaneously asking the doctor to claim? You really can't get more scum than this. | ||
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So, kush is scummy as shit and obviously doesn't care about this game. That alone is reason enough for me to want him gone. HOWEVER... sicklucker has voted to lynch kush, and I'm pretty much 110% certain that sicklucker is scum at this point. This leads me to believe kush is actually town, as much as I don't want to. "But sicklucker could vote for kush even if they are both scum" True, but I'll be blunt here; I don't think sicklucker is intelligent enough to bus his teammates. Also, there's this On November 08 2014 04:04 sicklucker wrote: If Serejai claimed a role thats very important for my vote tonight can someone clarify this? This is the most scum post of all. It's important for him to know if I claimed a role. Why? His vote is on kush and he's stated numerous times that he's not going to vote for me. Suddenly, though, if I were to claim a role... that would affect his vote? How? This does not add up at all. Me claiming a role would have no bearing on his vote to lynch kush, so why does he say it will matter if I claim? Because he's scum and needs a target for tonight. Lynch sicklucker, the mafia roleblocker. | ||
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On November 08 2014 04:09 sicklucker wrote: Dont even waste your time on elvis posts its complete garbage. Focus on me and her How is this anything but a scum post? This guy has spent ALL DAY defending himself without ever actually defending himself. Nearly every single post of his is a diversionary tactic. Seriously, this guy needs to be lynched. | ||
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On November 08 2014 04:55 sicklucker wrote: I watch too much allstar mafia where they use a medic everygame its drilled in my head. Once again you COMPLETELY dodge the context of the post. I didn't question your use of the term "medic". I questioned the facts that; a) You once again seem to know there is a doctor in the game, even though only Mafia knows the setup, and b) YOU ASKED FOR THE TOWN DOCTOR TO CLAIM Scum true and true. | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:03 sicklucker wrote: Im not a good lynch today Every Single Post This guy does nothing but tell us how town he is without backing any of it up. Come on people... get this guy out. | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:31 sicklucker wrote: still hard defending kush hes gotta go. Thanks for the nail in the coffin, scum. I want all of you to look at this post by sicklucker, and his previous posts. Here he claims I am "hard defending" kush, and that has convinced him that I'm scum. Every since me and Elvis voted to lynch sicklucker he he started pushing to lynch kush and has been calling me scum for defending kush. But if we look back to yesterday, we have this gem of a post: On November 07 2014 06:30 sicklucker wrote: Ya ok I just read it thanks for that filter tip I did not know about it before makes things easier. Going into this I was told hes a very helpful town but a horrible mafia. I dont know about all that so i just go on what people I have town reads on tell me but as an unbiased person this is what I think from the little information hes given us. He comes off to me when he actually seems serious as townie to me. He hard defended not lynching the cop to you off all people. Here he is earlier this morning stating how kush must be town because he "hard defended" the cop. So, just in the course of the last 24 hours this guy has gone from thinking kush is confirmed town because he "hard defended" the cop, to thinking I'm scum for "hard defending" kush. It's like he keeps trying to put the square peg in the round hole every time he makes a post. | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:50 sicklucker wrote: I think if we miss in general we lost. But changing to kelsier is the only other vote id consider at this time because of your logic. But I really think I have to go with my gut here lets try to piece likely ksc teams together for now. I think sentinels gotta top that list for afk voting kush. Pretty much anyone whos afk voting kush right now LOL WHAT THE FUCK? YOU THINK KUSH IS MAFIA, BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE VOTING FOR KUSH RIGHT NOW ARE ALSO MAFIA? I QUIT. | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:54 Elvis! wrote: Also kush is high as fuck I hope that sicklucker is on crystal meth or something, because I can't think of anything else that would explain his posts. | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:10 sicklucker wrote: my most likely scum teams are KelsierSC vs kush Sent serejai ff +1 leaning bats The fact kelsiers team has all afked at basicly the same time is very suspicious But the way serejai is so distributive to us taking out one of kush or kelsier is very alarming also Whats your thoughts? I would have thoughts if I could figure out what you were trying to type, but nothing you post makes any sense. Here you go again claiming two separate scum teams and then asking for thoughts, but you fail to explain why you have these scum teams in the first place. Also, what am I distributing? | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:21 sicklucker wrote: your like quoting me everytime I have a spelling error its insane I mis posted read the post after this one You just dodged the same question TWICE... Fecal asked you why you came up with these scum teams, and you said you'd answer after the lynch. I asked you why you came up with these scum teams, and you post this. Why is it so hard for you to actually answer a question? You should be a politician. | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:24 sicklucker wrote: PLZ HELP US SOLVE THE GAME No. I'm not trying to solve the same game as you are because I'm a townie. | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote: sicklucker can I ask why on earth the medic would claim today, even if there was a guaranteed medic? This is my biggest red flag on you, constantly blue hunting Good luck. I've asked him multiple times why he's so obsessed with our power role claiming but he keeps making excuses or changing the subject and apparently nobody else finds that scummy. | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:39 batsnacks wrote: zzzz ##unvote ##vote: KelsierSC You wasted your vote yesterday and got our cop killed. Now you're going to waste your vote again today? | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:45 sicklucker wrote: Lets do open question time by anyone not named elvis or Serejai. If you see a question they ask plz repeat it because im ignoring the fuck out of them for reasons we dont have time for me to reexplain for the 4th time. so town | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:48 sicklucker wrote: HOW IS THIS NOT PRODUCTIVE YOUR ABOUT TO LYNCH ME AND LOSE THE GAME. I want people whos qeustions I respect at this point and not people believing there rambles. Even if you flip town, the game doesn't end. Why do you feel you are so much more important to this game than anyone else? A real townie would not care if they got lynched, but a scum? Only a scum would get as upset about dying as you are. | ||
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Here you go again with another of your TMI posts. How would anyone know that Kelsier is not going to be modkilled unless you were both scum and you knew he was going to post something last minute? | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:53 Breshke wrote: I said this near end of D1 but why arn't we lynching kush today. Also im slightly happier with me KSc vote This feels like something a town would say Lol. So, one out of 300 posts of his seems town, and the other 299 are the scummiest shit ever written. What is your point? | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:55 Fecalfeast wrote: I honestly think lickitysplit is scummier but why wont kelly be modkilled? You'll have to ask sicklucker. He has the insider information. This guy a) Knows we have a doctor somehow, b) Knows that Kelsier is going to vote in the next three minutes How else would he know this unless he were scum? | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:59 sicklucker wrote: ##unvote ##vote kelsiersc LOL | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:59 sicklucker wrote: ##unvote ##vote kelsiersc THE SCUM DESPERATION | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:08 Serejai wrote: We learned absolutely NOTHING from that lynch, since kush was AFK all game. We'll have to wait and see who dies tonight I guess. Actually, I take this back; we may have learned a great deal. kush had the opportunity to save himself by switching his vote to sicklucker or Kelsier, but he chose to get lynched instead. Why on earth would a mafia let themselves get lynched? The only real option would be that sicklucker or Kelsier was on the scum team as well. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:10 Breshke wrote: Saying we learnt nothing from that lynch is ridiculous ALSO HE WAS MAFIA WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO LEARN Killing a mafia is great, but killing an afk mafia doesn't allow us to read his posts to figure out who his teammates may be. I would rather have killed scum sicklucker so we could comb through his posts and find one of his teammates. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:13 sicklucker wrote: ##vote srejai lol how cute | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:14 Fecalfeast wrote: You are aware night time is now, right? It's ok, just another scumslip by him. When BH told the scum team to send in their night actions he got confused and tried to lynch me instead of shooting me. And honest mistake, I'm sure. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:15 sicklucker wrote: Me and breske were the only people who pushed in the last 2 days for kush to get lynched . Breshe is confirmed town Hahaha. That's not how this works. At all. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:15 sicklucker wrote: Me and breske were the only people who pushed in the last 2 days for kush to get lynched . Breshe is confirmed town Also lol because apparently me pushing to save our cop on Day 1 doesn't confirm me as town, but the guy who lynched the cop day one bussing a mafia on day two confirms him as town. Next level stuff right there. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:16 sicklucker wrote: Im sorry im just exited I was right and we won the game WE WON THE GAME GUYS. IT'S OVER, SCUM. JUST SHOOT YOURSELVES TONIGHT CAUSE WE ALREADY WON THE GAME THANKS TO SICKLUCKER, CONFIRMED TOWNIE | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote: serajai if you remember i wanted to lynch kush D1 instead but noone was intrested. I think superbia needs to be looked into because he only came back to the thread to push on KSC and try get votes off of kush. I also think bats is really towny because he had every right to vote on KSC and stick to it because that was his mindset all day. He could have stayed on KSC and noone would have thought the wiser. I don't think much of sicklukers vote because of the fact that he did it to save himself so could therefore be roleblocker or w/e but that is pure speculation. Also i don't know what to think about ff but his intent seemed to be there. My town circle is getting fairly large and it will be great to see what the new guys have but replacing into a 76 page game is going to be rough. I read that as "I also think bats is really horny" and started typing up a response to ask how you gathered that information. Right now I want to see some posts from the new guys. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i know so far is Elvis! and sicklucker are never going to be mafia. Is this sarcasm? Or are you seriously suggesting that sicklucker is a confirmed town? Not accusing you of anything; just trying to get clarification. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:38 sicklucker wrote: Serejai lets get this straight what are you claiming theres alot of confusion mostly me. You're confused? That doesn't surprise me in the least. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:44 batsnacks wrote: Sicklucker is town. Mafia wouldn't say these things without thinking it through a little better. Lol. I wouldn't think so but maybe he doesn't know they have a chat. | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:05 sicklucker wrote: I have been a little too tunnel on Serejai because he just came at me for what I think are silly reasons. If that claim goes threw Im starting from scratch just like you. I'm glad you're starting from scratch, but as the only confirmed town in this game I'm still voting to lynch you. | ||
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On November 08 2014 10:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: this guy is scum. maybe. superbia or this guy. sentinel needs to die 100% first. So your claiming I'm scum and my teammate role blocked me night one? What would be the benefit of wasting the role block? Humor me. | ||
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On November 08 2014 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: So do you think he is mafia or not? I don't. Do you? I do, but I'm willing to change my mind if he would be more productive. It is entirely possible he's town and unintentionally got so hung up on me that he stopped scumhunting. | ||
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On November 08 2014 11:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: can you make a case on him? right now. Nopr. You'll have to check my filter or wait. Im not at home noe and typing on my phone isn't ideal for an essay. | ||
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On November 09 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who the hell is Artanis? Rofl. I'm out of town this weekend so reading but trying not to post (cause its hard on my phone) but I can't stop laughing at this and had to say something. I'm gonna stop thinking sicklucker is scum. As someone said earlier there's no way his mafia teammates would let him post the shit he does lol. | ||
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On November 09 2014 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: So what does make one of them mafia? You just laid out reasoning that applies to two people. One of them is in your opinion mafia for it and the other one is stupid town. Why can't they both be stupid town based on it? I really do not like cases where people include certain amount of people which they KNOW include townies and say "one/some of them mafia" because in the same post they PROVE it's not necessarily a scum trait because it's PROVEN in their mind a townie did the same thing aswell. True. They both seem to want our medic dead, but there's a difference. Sicklucker wants our medic to reveal and has been blue hunting all game. He goes for the medic directly. Elvis goes for me all game - keeping in mind that scum thought I was the doctor - and only switched to sicklucker after he started talking about the medic so much. Elvis is going after the player he thinks is the medic and hasn't contributed anything else to the thread all game. He kept his vote on me D1 for no reason in order to stay under the radar when cop was lynched. He stayed out of voting for kush yesterday even though he thought kush was scum. One of those seems scum. The other seems naive town. | ||
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On November 10 2014 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Serejai could you answer this? At the same time you could also answer this: Apparently you think mafia is Sentinel and one of SL / Elvis. What purpose it serves to the town to hold on to your read during the DAY phase given you have "caught mafia" -- which kinda means you are sure of someone (other than Sentinel) being mafia? Also at the same time you STILL want to lynch Sentinel and not the dude you think you have caught. How does this make ANY sense at all? Elvis is the other scum. | ||
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Superbia Sentinel Obiwan Everyone else has posted already, so one of those three is confirmed town. I think we can also rule out sentinel so that leave obiwan and superbia. I'm more inclined to believe its obiwan. Thoughts? | ||
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Why are you so against us knowing another townie? And the fact that you still think I'm scum after I've been role blocked twice. You can't really be that bad at the game, so what is your motive for trying to remove two townies from the equation? | ||
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I mean seriously... Confirm a town AND narrow our scum list down? How is that a bad thing Elvis? | ||
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On November 10 2014 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: (I think this is the part where everyone realizes they haven't read the OP: neither the medic nor the target are notified. Hue.) Actually the op specifically said they were both notified. It has been edited very recently. why were the rules in the op edited? | ||
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This guy was A+ rating in Brood War. From this we can assume he is above average at decision making. He's also a professional poker player and makes a full-time living winning tens of thousands of dollars at tournaments. From this we can assume he's good at reading people and situations. Now... The SL in this game has been absolutely awful at both. | ||
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On November 10 2014 07:35 Elvis! wrote: Like if you're blocked N1 and you're medic, why would the real medic ever claim? Since the medic did his magic N2, he wasn't blocked both times, so IF Serejai isn't lieing he's not the medic. That's all we know Well no shit I'm not the medic. What is with you thinking I'm still null and making these really dumb posts lately? Are you even following this game? | ||
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On November 10 2014 07:48 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm doing it because rayn wont budge on the "SL could have bussed kush" matter and his next scum is between you and me. From the info in thread, rayn is town until there is a counterclaim for medic so helping his figure out who scum is makes more sense than beating a dead horse. Why is rayn town? He didn't claim medic... What are you reading? | ||
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On November 10 2014 07:50 Elvis! wrote: Bresh nope. Give me a good reason to believe him, he's around null for me atm. Because it has been two nights and no CC? I can't even take you seriously at this point. | ||
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On November 10 2014 07:51 Fecalfeast wrote: batsnacks claimed that he saved rayn, what are you reading? What? So bat claims medic and says he healed rayn. In what world does that confirm rayn as town? It would confirm bat, not rayn... Use some common sense. | ||
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Let's assume its correct; that puts me, bats, and rayn as confirmed town. Rayn was Immaterial, right? So that means Immaterial probably afked in shame after lynching the cop. Not relevant but humorous. | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:07 Breshke wrote: Taken from the OP I don't think mafia can no kill is this rule still accurate? | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:57 Superbia wrote: Nice slip Serejai. Why are you confirmed town btw? Don't think you ever answered. Lynch me if you want an answer. | ||
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On November 10 2014 10:32 sicklucker wrote: As town because Im the #1 person pushing this thread forward. I was also almost mislynched last week in a 4-3 vote and the other guy was mafia who I was hard pushing for over ksc. Im very obviously town here I wish more then rayn or breske would open up to these obvious facts. You aren't pushing anything forward. You just sheep and keep flip flopping your views. | ||
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It's like a 0.000000001% chance because, at the time of their night action, the OP stated that a healed target would be notified. Thus, mafia would not have known the rule change when they made their shot. | ||
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On November 11 2014 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: shut up on this please. I was not hit last night, if i was i would have claimed it BECAUSE I AM NOT AN IDIOT WHICH SOMEONE IS!!! Rules were edited. Healed target is NOT notified anymore. | ||
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On November 10 2014 07:53 Blazinghand wrote: Was based off of a copy of the rules from a different game, didn't edit it properly when I copied it over. current op is accurate. Pre-edit copy is the same but without the strikethroughs if you want to see what it looked like. Also, I've noticed things have gotten a bit heated in discussions here. I know this game is important and exciting but let's try to keep it TL-appropriate, guys. | ||
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On November 11 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm okay. There is not gonna be a fucking way mafia shot anyone and roleblocked their shooter. If that's what happened then whoever did that deserves to win and i raise my hat to them (BECAUSE THE CHANGE WAS MADE 2min BEFORE THE N2 deadline!!!! no time for mafia to react). Now the situation is: bats - obvtown Breshke - obvtown Serejai - mostly obv town sicklucker - town Cava/Fecal/Superbia/Elvis -- I really do not have any fucking idea atm Sentinel - scummyscumscumclaimedscum I actually have to do something after this phase... I thought we were gonna win straight up. Can someone of those four claim town so we can just win? What makes Breshke confirmed? Not that I think he's scum, but the three confirmed town would be myself, you, and batsnacks at the moment. I still disagree with your read on sicklucker. He's either scum or the worst town in the history of mafia, and I find the latter hard to believe. Did you see my recent post about him? On November 10 2014 07:37 Serejai wrote: On SL... This guy was A+ rating in Brood War. From this we can assume he is above average at decision making. He's also a professional poker player and makes a full-time living winning tens of thousands of dollars at tournaments. From this we can assume he's good at reading people and situations. Now... The SL in this game has been absolutely awful at both. I'm just struggling to believe someone who has the ability to make judgement calls well enough to be a semi-pro BW player and a professional poker player could do the exact opposite in a game of mafia; especially when he claims to watch allstar mafia and read a ton of external literature on how to play. It doesn't add up. | ||
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He doesn't come off as a "bad player" or a "new player", but rather as someone who is pretending to be one. For a short time I thought the reason why he was like this is because he was the doctor and it was some kind of really weird diversionary tactic... but then batsnacks claimed. | ||
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On November 11 2014 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Breshke is semi-confirmed for pushing kush on D2 over other lynches (like bats). Wasn't it you that said kush likes to be bussed when he plays scum, though? Someone here mentioned that, so Breshke could've been doing that. | ||
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On November 11 2014 02:00 Serejai wrote: It's not so much that I'd expect him to be good... more than I'd expect him to be less terrible. He's spent all game dodging questions, self-confirming himself as town for these ridiculous reason that don't make any sense, blue hunting all game, etc. He seems to lack common sense entirely and that's just hard for me to stomach from someone with his background and who has allegedly put so much time into studying mafia before playing. He doesn't come off as a "bad player" or a "new player", but rather as someone who is pretending to be one. For a short time I thought the reason why he was like this is because he was the doctor and it was some kind of really weird diversionary tactic... but then batsnacks claimed. I mean, he asked for our medic to claim yesterday for no apparent reason. That just seems too stupid to be true. | ||
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On November 11 2014 04:34 Blazinghand wrote: Gentle reminder that voting is mandatory I like it when you're gentle with me... but sometimes I like it rough, too. A girl has needs. | ||
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On November 11 2014 06:23 batsnacks wrote: I was actually wondering when the real doctor would claim, if ever. I am the doctor. | ||
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On November 12 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: damn. Long day at work. Lemme gather my thoughts in one post before Fixed that for you. | ||
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On November 12 2014 06:54 sicklucker wrote: Rayn do you agree that if im the solo mafia I NEVER kill you and I would kill serejai 10/10? I feel like you should come out and say that im confirmed town if your voted out because no ones going to listen to me. THERES NO WAY IN HELL I WOULD NIGHT KILL THE ONLY PERSON KEEPING ME IN THIS GAME. And you don't see how this post makes you scummy as shit? "If rayn dies town then I am 100% confirmed town too because he thought I was town" - WRONG "if i were mafia I wouldn't kill the guy that thinks im town" - WRONG. You would do exactly this because then nobody would suspect you, since you would also be "confirmed town" and all. "you should come out and say im confirmed town" - WRONG, because that's not possible for him to do. You will never be confirmed town until you actually flip green, regardless of how many times you make up these random-ass reasons for why you have to be. | ||
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On November 12 2014 07:12 sicklucker wrote: No your scummy as shit for posting that . I used very sensible logic. Ask yourself this If im mafia do I have anychance winning if both you, ff and elvis are tunneling? Nope thats 3 votes I have to kill one of you tonight. Where as rayn is staking his mafia reputation that im town. I would not lynch him as mafier... But you said yourself that if rayn dies it confirms you as town, so as scum wouldn't you want to be confirmed town? You're contradicting yourself. | ||
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On November 12 2014 08:42 Superbia wrote: I got roleblocked. Make from that whatever the fuck you want. Also a little surprised bats was actually the doctor, or the hit for that matter. Lol? If true, what the fuck? Why didn't scum just roleblock batsnacks and lynch Rayn? batsnacks being dead doesn't really hurt us much, to be honest. It's not like he was contributing to the thread or anything. | ||
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On November 12 2014 10:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Not a clue. I'm not lynching you or SL, that's for certain. So you are lynching Fecal and Elvis. Those are the only remaining choices. | ||
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On November 12 2014 13:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: God, SL's filter is completely unreadable. It's like looking into a poorly written sun. I'm just kind of annoyed now that I'm looking at it. THIS. THIS IS WHY I WANT TO LYNCH HIM. I don't even give a shit if he's town anymore. It's just policy at this point. | ||
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On November 12 2014 18:19 Breshke wrote: What do you think of this. So Elvis thinks that serejai has been soft claiming doctor. I'm not sure when Elvis is reffering too and if he could clarify that could be great. Serejai has however said random stuff like This could be what he is talking about. So whatever post he is referring to you have to assume that he believes serejai was soft claiming because why else would he ask this question. Serejai was role blocked twice because the mafia believed she was the medic. No one else has shown any indication that they believed serejai to be the medic until Elvis with that post. Also if we look at Elvis's vote on D1 i believe it also indicates that elvis is mafia This is the D1 vote. We now know that the two main wagons LS and Immaterial(rayn) are both town. Mafia had no need to push either of these wagons because they were both town. I think that a majority of mafia is more likely to vote outside of the wagons as no matter which person gets lynched they can not be blamed for lynching a town. ##Unvote ##Vote:Elvis! I really think this game ends with superbia or elvis i just keep flipping between who I want first. Maybe someone will listen to you; I've been pointing this out all game with Elvis and everyone just immediately disregards it. I said last night that Elvis was the last mafia for this very reason. | ||
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Have you seen the movie Blade? You may not be one of the vampires, but you post like you're one of their human pets that wants to become one. | ||
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On November 13 2014 07:12 Elvis! wrote: or die trying to lynch sicklucker. Can we lynch Elvis, then sicklucker? This way my dream of lynching them both comes true, and Elvis gets to die trying like he wants. Win/win. | ||
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Thank you very much. | ||
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Also I can't believe all of you bought my fake roleblock claims so easily. GG all. | ||
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Breshke also seems town based on his responses. Obiwan why do you doubt I am scum? That sounds like a convenient cover for you to use if I get lynched and flip town. "I told you guys!". You've admitted that you don't read the thread, and yet you're somehow confident I am town; even more confident than people like rayn who had me confirmed as town nearly all game. Do you know something the rest of us don't? Superbia, you didn't seem very convinced, either. Why is that? Out of everyone who has posted a comment, I would say the actual scum is either Obiwan, Elvis, or Superbia based on the responses. Fecal's responses could be seen as scummy but I'm more inclined to believe he's just a bad player; same reason I think sicklucker is town now. | ||
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On November 13 2014 14:56 Fecalfeast wrote: I'll give you both props, does that make it better? Shittiest town player of the game here, acknowledging the superior townplay of elvis and licksucker. Serejai could you pm BH that you concede? That'd be super I could, but it wouldn't do anything. | ||
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I can, but I'd rather lynch Elvis > Fecal > Obiwan in that order. | ||
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On November 13 2014 08:53 Elvis! wrote: Fuck you sicklucker, you said you'll give me mad props if it's Sere. Also, I didn't buy his fake roleblock. Who got blocked? Fuck that person so much. On November 13 2014 08:54 Elvis! wrote: Also Sere, I had you by your non-existant balls, how did you wind out of that one? On November 13 2014 09:52 sicklucker wrote: It kinda makes sense from my pov. I said all day 2 if kush turns up mafia serejai is his partner. Then when kush showed up mafia I wasl literraly taunting him then he made that claim and HE DIDNT TAUNT ME BACK WTF. If this is true you know i kinda solved the game like last week right? I think some of you owe me an apology On November 13 2014 10:16 sicklucker wrote: I was 100% confident in this read unlike some of my rambles untill that fake claim came up, this is the best post to explain why I had the game solved before that and why I think I was serejais top mislynch. Even if I get lynched it was completely worth it to see these two post egotistical shit like this. | ||
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On November 14 2014 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah those are also quite townie posts.. All of them. So why Elvis? All game he's been posting a lot; couple of thousand word essays in there, but in the end his vote has sat on me all game and nearly all of his rambling has been just that; empty words. Just like now, when I claimed to be scum... here was the chance he was waiting for ALL GAME, and everyone else was voting for me... but suddenly Elvis doesn't want to anymore, even though he "knew" I was scum all along. | ||
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Just for emphasis. | ||
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On November 14 2014 04:35 Fecalfeast wrote: It's my fairytale land where you join a game where your mafia team is kush/afksentinel and have to try the hail mary. There's a reason I am reluctant to post it because it's the least concrete case of all time. Pretty sure something like a Nintendo DS game case is the least concrete case of all time; there's literally no concrete in there at all. | ||
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On November 14 2014 05:01 Fecalfeast wrote: You're a criminal mastermind, rayn. Or maybe me and rayn both really are scum, and there was a fourth mafia in this game. I mean, BH messed up with the doctor rules so who's to say there aren't four mafia? Hell, maybe even five. | ||
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On November 14 2014 06:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Rayn, you literally couldn't have picked a worse time to try to lynch me. I've got like 40 minutes before I have to do RL stuff so let's try to make this reasonably quick. That's no problem; you've only got ten minutes until lynch! | ||
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STAY TUNED. | ||
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See you guys about five minutes before lynch tomorrow. | ||
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Scummy or stupid? I don't know. | ||
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Decisions... | ||
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On November 18 2014 23:47 sicklucker wrote: You have no right to judge my play man. It says in the rules you have to play to win or you can get banned. Your close LOL. Did you just threaten me? Good lord... what a character. | ||
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On November 19 2014 00:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why are you voting Sl? Is it just because of the wifom and stuff? See, here's the thing... Sleeping is the town thing to do. If we lynch today we have a 25% chance of winning and a 75% chance of losing as town. If we sleep and lynch tomorrow, there will be a 33% chance to win and a 66% chance to lose as town. For someone who makes a living playing poker and apparently is a math expert as well, I find it hard to believe they could be so oblivious to how this stuff works. On the other hand, the remaining scum player would benefit greatly from us lynching today. Out of the four of us, the only person who is hellbent on not sleeping is SL. It's in the best interest of town to sleep, and the best interest of mafia to lynch. Nothing he says makes any sense or adds up in any way, and it's all coming straight from a scum viewpoint - regardless of how many times he self-confirms himself as town. | ||
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On November 20 2014 03:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you think Serejai is mafia then why do you keep pushing me as a lynch? Lol. It's like one of those Choose Your Adventure books, except SL is choosing the adventure for everyone and instead of the story progressing from 1 > 2 > 3 > etc, it's going like 1 > 15 > 8 > 94 > 16. | ||
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SL - 9.5 Obiwan - 6 Superbia - 3 That's pretty much my lynch order and nothing anyone has posted has really changed that in the last few days, aside from Superbia and Obiwan both seeming more town to me and SL seeming more scum since he keeps constantly pushing for anti-town plays. My problem with SL is that he keeps pushing for situations that would benefit scum more than town. He's been doing this all game. My gut feeling tells me he's just an awful town player, but he constantly reminds us that he's the best player here, that he's had the game solved since day one, and that the rest of us are gamethrowing and whatnot. Any time his scumminess is brought up he says something like "whatever you're just terrible and I'm going to ignore you", and/or produces a response that doesn't fit the question that was asked. It's like he's attempting to defend himself... but doesn't quite understand how to. So that's my stance on voting tomorrow. Unless SL can really step up his game and actually start addressing questions to him and whatnot, he's my prime lynch target. Obiwan and Superbia... I don't see where either of you have changed much lately. You've been consistent with the town vibes except for Obiwan, who was sketchy a few days ago but stepped up after rayn died. | ||
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Im town because Im the only one keeping this thread alive. No... that's now how it works. Care to provide a less scummy answer as to why you are town? You and super have been lurking all game im actually putiing in effort pushing the game where I think its best for town even if im wrong. Again, effort doesn't make you town; especially when the direction you've been pushing all game has been heavily scum-centered. Honestly Ive just felt like you hate me and no matter what I say in defense your not going to believe me so I haven't put much effort. But you just said you're the only one putting in effort, and now you're saying you don't put in much effort. Which is it? You've been contradicting yourself like this all game long. You're the least consistent person in this entire thread. You've also pulled the "no matter what i say you wont listen so im just not gonna say it" card at least a dozen times. In fact, every time you've been asked to defend yourself you use that excuse. Until you can actually a) Explain why you are town, b) Explain why you've been pushing a scum agenda all game, by things such as blue hunting and trying to lynch yesterday My vote is not moving off you, because Superbia has been looking pretty damn town recently. ##vote sicklucker | ||
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On November 22 2014 06:21 sicklucker wrote: I offered the olive branch because I think its super. Remember this when we lose I don't even know what to say. "I think the mafia is Superbia but I'm going to refuse to defend myself and vote you instead!" Can your play possibly get any more anti-town? | ||
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On November 04 2014 22:16 Serejai wrote: Either Sentinel is scum or Elvis+Fecal are scum. Still leaning Elvis because of how much he contradicts himself. Starts off calling out Superbia because "Surely trolly behaviour is typically scum". Then once Sentinel says the same thing, Elvis suddenly flip-flops and says "so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy... Okay I guess." in sarcasm and proceeds to call Sentinel scum. I come into the game with a troll post as well and, once again, Elvis does a complete flip-flip and suddenly trolling = obvious scum again. Don't know how you guys play online mafia but this is pretty cut and dry mafia play for IRL games. I would put Bresh, Grack, and Sentinel as town at the moment because they're the only ones that seem to notice some of the sketchy posting by Elvis. Lightning is null to me; he may post scummy but surely if he were mafia his teammates would step in and help improve his posting - unless they are intentionally trying to throw him under the bus. If Lightning gets lynched and turns town we should probably look at the people who were pushing for him (coincidentally Elvis is at the top of that list). I made a few more small posts about Sentinel... but nothing too serious. Kush, on the other hand... I tried pushing for him a few times On November 05 2014 05:18 Serejai wrote: Why does nobody care that kush is afk? And was either outright ignored, or the veteran players said he wasn't important at that point in time. I pretty much gave up on that, though, because everyone was willing to let him lurk for whatever reason. While Sentinel had been null for me all game, and leaning scum on occasion... I was a bit shocked to see him actually flip red. I figured someone like Elvis, bats, or Fecal was a lot more likely. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:02 Superbia wrote: Serejai where are you? Reading this train wreck that SL is posting. | ||
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Then his reads... first he's sure I'm mafia, but then he gives me the "olive branch" and wants me to lynch Superbia with him... but he thinks Superbia is town... and that I'm scum... but wants to lynch Superbia with me... How the fuck can anyone make sense of that? There's no logic, no direction, and no coherent thoughts in the majority of his posts. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:27 Superbia wrote: I had some questions for you which I posted earlier, care to answer them? You asked me how I knew there was a doctor in the game: I didn't. I was kind of hoping mafia would think I was the doctor and kill me, so we wouldn't lose one of the more experienced town players. Instead, they roleblocked me which I guess is fine because they ended up wasting it two nights in a row and we did save a life one night because of it. Why didn't I claim roleblock sooner? There wasn't really any tactical advantage to doing so. In fact, I probably should have held it even longer and waited until I was about to be lynched to use it. Confirming me as town didn't really do much; not nearly as useful as having someone like rayn confirmed. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:31 sicklucker wrote: Serejais whole case against me is that im confusing (which is true) But that does not mean im mafia. I don't think you're mafia because you're confusing. I think you're mafia because myself and many others in this thread have asked you many questions this game and all you do is dodge them or ignore us. We are on page 172 of this thread and you still have yet to explain why I should see you as town, or defend any of your scummy behavior. You just keep trying to make it some personal grudge between us, or trying to pocket other players. You still have an hour and a half to explain why things like blue hunting/anti-scum hunting, passing the "olive branch" to someone you think is scum in order to lynch someone you think is town, or constantly trying to self-confirm yourself as town are actually town things to do. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:35 Superbia wrote: What do you think would've happened if the doctor was not in the set up and yet you claimed it? Ideally, mafia would continue wasting their roleblock on me... or shoot me, and I'd flip town. Better a new player like me than one of the more experienced townies. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:37 sicklucker wrote: superbia why does this matters to you your kind of being a donkey. You have the hammer. If anything me being open minded and keeping my options open is a town trait. Where as serejai has this one tunnel strategy. The fact im worried about you being mafia here super and making myself look bad to try to work with serejai IS VERY TOWNIE. Think of it this way. I want to work with both of you. Serejai just wants to lynch me and ignore you. Thats townie points for me not the other way around. Psst... You're doing that whole dodging questions thing again, and trying to suck up and divert attention. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:40 Superbia wrote: How does this work though? Mafia has perfect information about the set up, so they'd know you were fake. Yeah... I suppose I didn't really think it through all that well. In defense of my bad play I wasn't the only one who didn't realize that mafia knew the roles at the time. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:55 sicklucker wrote: facts. Things that are determine alignment. Of which, in this entire thread, you have yet to post a single one. It's like talking to a brick wall, because I've asked you to back up *ANYTHING* you've said all game and you simply refuse to do so. | ||
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On a game related note, I've been asking SL questions for over a week now and he just keeps avoiding them. The only way I would remove my vote from him is if Superbia somehow became scummier, like Bruce Banner changing into the Hulk or something. I don't really see Superbia throwing the game like that if he's mafia, so... Going out for dinner. Good game all, whichever way this goes. | ||
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I keep refreshing the page before I leave. | ||
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On top of that, if you were truly town and saw my vote on you... you should be convincing me why I shouldn't vote for you; not trying to convince Superbia to save you by voting for me. You don't seem to care about lynching scum, but rather about not getting lynched yourself. That is not at all a town thing to do. | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:41 sicklucker wrote: Threats I never made. But its the same as your mafia game so you cant rly talk.. Lol. You went on a rant and threatened to report me for game throwing because I was lurking. I mean really now... you are way too emotional over this and - if you are town - it's causing you to make terrible decisions and post things you shouldn't be posting. | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:43 sicklucker wrote: Serejai it was obvious you were never changing your vote on me you were super hostile whenever I tried I dont think I made a mistake on that Why was it obvious? Why is everything WIFOM with you? | ||
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Hypothetical. I'm trying to come up with some reasoning for him to post the way he does if he were town like he thinks he is, and that's about all I've got. | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:48 sicklucker wrote: be a hero and switch your vote to super imo his case against me doesint logically make sense. But as mafia I think he would just vote as you so its very weird. That's... not how you get a vote off of you. | ||
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You were so convinced he was town that you were willing to give him control of the vote yesterday to end the game then and there, and now - 5 minutes before deadline - you suddenly think he's scum. | ||
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a) Superbia is the scum, and he intentionally left me and you in the game because he figured neither of us would vote for him. This is actually extremely likely, but I can't vote on it for reasons below. b) SL is the scum, and he left Superbia in the game in order to lynch me because he figured Superbia was on his side and would vote me. This is less likely of the two. So, why am I voting you? Because you've had every chance in the world to show that you are town and you simply aren't doing it. I would love to lynch Superbia right now because my gut feeling tells me he's the scum, but I can't do it because every time I read something you post my brain takes over and says it's you. In the future, if you actually are town... you need to stop posting WIFOM and hypotheticals so much. It's almost like you are TRYING to make yourself seem scummy and whatnot. Good game, regardless. | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:01 sicklucker wrote: gg and screw you super that was a sick slowroll serejai was never changing his vote thats why we never sleep ovi... See, you're STILL doing it. You keep saying I would never change my vote and yet you never made an effort to get me to change it. You just kept trying to get Superbia to vote me instead, which still would have lost the game. | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:04 Superbia wrote: Fuck that game took so much energy rofl. Final 3 was pretty nerve-wrecking. Game would have ended easy if you left Breshke in | ||
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11-19-2014 02:20 PM ET (US) If sicklucker ends up being town, I'm gonna try to policy lynch him in the paint mafia lol. Seriously though, that OBS QT thread is full of SL quotes and people scratching their heads. You really need to stop being so confusing with your posts in future games; it's extremely hard to figure out what you're trying to accomplish with anything. | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:32 sicklucker wrote: So obi I hope you see why I was so strong on my stance from my pov .if we sleep and if you or super were mafia it was autowin which turned out to be true But you're still wrong. It was not an auto-win. You made it that way when you played so scummy on the last day and refused to give me any reason to change my vote. In a normal game with less-confusing townies sleeping is the best thing to do. | ||
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I know, I'm sorry I kept reading the thread from my phone and thinking I'd check in to the QT later on my desktop, then I'd forgot to do it. | ||
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